1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Getty and he Armstrong and Getty Strong. 4 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Hey, we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: More Thing. Find out wherever you find all your podcasts. 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: Douglas Murray gave a speech in Paris recently talking about 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas and anti Semitism. We have divided a 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: substantial part of it into four cuts. We can discuss 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: in between as desired. Michael, We're starting with ninety there. 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: We should have gotten ready for that, and we'll go 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: from there. Hit it. 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: I've spent most of the months since the seventh October 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: in Israel and Gaza and have seen as much of 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: the conflicts I think it's possible for non combatant to see. 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: I've been went to all of the massacre sites when 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: they were still fresh. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Has spent a lot of. 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: Time with the survivors, the families of the hostages. I've 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: been in the morgues of Tel Aviv where they're still 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: trying to identify the dead. One young man's body was 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: only identified yesterday, and think what it takes what you 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: have to do to a man to make his body 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: unidentifiable for eight months. 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: This is more than just a recitation of horror. He's 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: working toward greater points. But roll on, Michael. 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: One of the things that struck me most after the 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: seventh October was I was at one of the reunions 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: of the Nova Party, and these are all young people 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: who'd seen their friends raped and murdered in front of them. 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: One young man, a survivor, showed me footage from his phone, 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: and it included footage of a young friend of his 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: who didn't make it into his car and was lynched 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: by a mob immediately afterwards. This young man, this survivor, 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: said to me, what would you do if this happened 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: in your country? And I thought, I didn't say, but 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 3: it has happened in my society, in my Europe, in 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: my West. The scale may be different, but the terrorists 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: are the same. It happened here in Paris at the Butterclaar. 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: It happened in. 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: Manchester where twenty two young girls were blown up for 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: the crime of going to a pop concert. It happened 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando. 43 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: The scale was. 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: Different, but the perpetrators are all the same. They're always 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: the same people who, whether in Toulouse or Porte de Vassnnese, 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: Copenhagen or Mumbai, can never restrain themselves from targeting the Jews. 47 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: Yet the sympathy of so many people here in Europe 48 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: since then has not been on the side of the victims, 49 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: but on the side of the perpetrators. Too many people 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: mistake the victim for the oppressor, the underdog for the overdog, 51 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: and those who fight terrorism with those who dream of 52 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: it and bring up their children to love it from 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: the cradle. 54 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with that list of four Mumbai 55 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: among them, those are all notable terrible, deadly attacks by 56 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: Islami fascists, Islamic supremacists, whatever you want to call them, 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: on innocent people, terrorist attacks, they comment, or shall we 58 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: roll ont finish and then I will next clip. Consider this. 59 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: In every European capital as well as in America, photographs 60 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: of the Israeli hostages still in captivity Bayjamas have been 61 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: put up, and in every city outside of Israel they 62 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: have been torn down. 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment. 64 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: If someone in London or Paris loses their dog. They 65 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: will put up a poster asking people to help find them. 66 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: And if even one person in our society went around 67 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: tearing down such a poster, we would ask what had 68 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: happened in our society. We would ask why we were 69 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: producing people so pathological. We would want to find the 70 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: person and punish them. Yet, when the missing a Jewish children, 71 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: or Jewish women or Jewish men, because there's no crime 72 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: in being a man either, these posts are torn down. 73 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: One of the relatives of the be Best children held 74 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: in captivity told me recently that he saw posts as 75 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: of his one year old relative torn down in the 76 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: center of Dublin. 77 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. That that's a stunning point right there. You have 78 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: got to be some sort of warped individual. Apparently there 79 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: are a lot of them to take down those posters. 80 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Even if you believe all of the nonsense of the 81 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: land belonged to the Palestinians and the Jewish people stole it. 82 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: Even if you believe all that stuff, you're still against 83 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: the Jewish families getting their kids back. 84 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you one percent. But there's example 85 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: after example just in the last century of ideology, particularly 86 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: extremist ideology, warping what seemed like normal people and turning 87 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: them into monsters. And often when that fever and era 88 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: of history passes, they cannot explain how they got swept 89 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: up in it and became monsters. Yeah, I know it 90 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: has the way humans are. 91 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: I knew what had happened in New York and a 92 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: number of our college campuses. I didn't know what happened 93 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: everywhere in the world outside of Israel where those posters 94 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: got torn down. 95 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: That is highly troubling. The brilliant Douglas Murray in the 96 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: final clip. One other consideration. 97 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: We have all for years heard the feminists issue a 98 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: call on male sexual violence against women. Believe all women, 99 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: But where was the solidarity? Where was the sympathy or 100 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: even belief? When the women would Jews, the belief evaporates. 101 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: And I won't even go into the psycho pathology and 102 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: suicidalism of Queers for Palestine, who are a branch of 103 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Turkeys for Christmas. It was Hamaz that started this war. 104 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: Yet much of the world has forgotten this. They've been 105 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: fooled by Hamaz propaganda into imagining that Israel is the aggressor. 106 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: Having seen this war up close, I can tell you 107 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: with one hundred percent certainty that the war would be 108 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: over tomorrow, not just if Hamaz returned the Jewish hostages, 109 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: but if the Palestinians in Gaza brought up their children 110 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: not to hate, but to love, not to aspire to 111 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: a cult of death, but to join Israel in a 112 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 3: belief in life, not to believe in destroying a state, 113 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: but to put their energies into building one. 114 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is something that whole believe all woman me 115 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: too thing that obviously the road stopped on that at 116 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: Jewish women being raped to death. 117 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was. 118 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: We had a clip this morning of that woman screaming 119 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: I support Hamas, I am Hamas outside of the White 120 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: House over the weekend, and prior to her saying that, 121 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: in the clip, she was screaming about all sorts of 122 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: other stuff, and one of the things she started screaming house. 123 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: They didn't there was no rape that didn't happen. 124 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at this huge 125 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: group of people going I wonder how many of them 126 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: were out there during the me too rallies. Yeah, because 127 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 4: it's all the same kind of people that go to 128 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: these protests. 129 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: All of them. But that does help their argument they 130 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: don't believe those stories. So okay, you know, a final note, 131 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: and if you listen to the radio show you are 132 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: the armstrung and getting on demand, you're going to hear 133 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: this again. But I just wanted to throw in just 134 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of what Sam Harris wrote recently. Is 135 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: another thinker who I admire even when I don't agree 136 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: with him. He provokes my thought. But he unleashed rather 137 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: a long peace about fundamentalist Islam and how it's a 138 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: political system and a relentively expansionist political system and totalitarian 139 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: political system, and compares it and contrasts it in some 140 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: ways with Christianity, which is also expansionist. But is you know, 141 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: the blessed or the meek, for they will inherit the 142 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: earth when it's done right. Christianity does not employ force 143 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: in any way. And he gets to the fact that 144 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Islam from the first moment was a religion of power, 145 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: and to quote him, the idea of non Muslims ruling 146 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: over Muslims or even having equivalent power alongside them perpetually 147 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: has always been anathema. It's an error to be rectified 148 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: through spiritual struggle, sure, but also through physical violence. The 149 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: fact that Islam has failed to achieve dominance in our 150 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: world and has proven for nearly a thousand years to 151 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: be quite backward and weak, is a perennial source of humiliation. 152 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: By the light of the doctrine, it makes absolutely no sense. 153 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: It's a sacrilege. From the point of view of Islam. 154 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: The status quo is in tolerable. And then he brings 155 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: it to what we're talking about, and this general attitude 156 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: of affronted dignity, this yearning for victory, which century after 157 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: century has been out of reach, affects everything that Islam touches. 158 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: It is why the history of peace negotiations between Israel 159 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: and the Palestinians has been so hopeless. Have the Israelis 160 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: made mistakes, of course, do the Jews have their own 161 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: religious fanatics, yes, But the peace process between the Israelis 162 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: and the Palestinians has been rendered hopeless from the start 163 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: because for a majority of Palestinians and for the vast 164 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: numbers of Muslims in the region, the mere presence of 165 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: a Jewish state in the Holy Land is totally unacceptable. 166 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: It's a knakma, a catastrophe. It is a perversion of 167 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: sacred history and it is an abject failure of the 168 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: mission of Islam, which is to conquer the world for 169 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the glory of God, and above all, to never forsake 170 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: Muslim lands once they have been conquered, which of course 171 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Palestine once was. And then it goes into some quotes 172 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: from the Koran which make it clear that fundamentalists killing 173 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: people to achieve their goals is just a hunky dory. 174 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: But I think the point that Sam Harris is making 175 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: is absolutely fundamental to all of this. They can't come 176 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: to a settlement with Israel and reach a two state solution. 177 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: They want a one state solution, even if everybody dies, 178 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: everybody on both sides, two state solution. Please sell your 179 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: idiot fantasies somewhere else. We're not buying. I'm not buying. 180 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 181 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: So the question is Secretary of State's over there trying 182 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: to work that deal out with Saudi Arabia where we 183 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: have some sort of agreement with them like we have 184 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: with Japan, where we would come to their aid if 185 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: they were attacked, and which Saudi Arabia would love that 186 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: because that helps them in that whole battle with Iran. 187 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: But Saudi Arabia has to get on board with accepting, 188 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: you know, normalizing relationship with Israel. They're saying, and they 189 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: won't do that unless one the war ends and two 190 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: they commit to a two state solution. But whether or 191 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: not they actually mean that or not is an open question, 192 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Like if MBS might be willing to say, yeah, and 193 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: you have to commit to us two state solutions sometime, 194 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: but doesn't actually enforce it. 195 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: Right for domestic political consumption, much as Anthony Blanket is 196 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: desperate for things to calm down a little bit for 197 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: domestic political consumption. Yeah, so that's those are the next 198 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: steps there. That'd be a huge deal. Again, if politics 199 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: was restricted to people only saying what they actually meant, 200 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: that like eighty percent of it would have vanish. The 201 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show. Yeah more Jack or Joe podcasts 202 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: and our hot links. It's the Armstrong and Getdy Show 203 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: featuring our podcast one more Thing downloaded. Subscribe to it 204 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: wherever you like to get podcasts the whole Like younger people, 205 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: people in their twenties in the workplace thing that a 206 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: number of people have observed and I've had this experience 207 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: myself and are having the problem with the level of 208 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: like familiarity and lack. 209 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Of And it's hard to say this without sounding like 210 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,479 Speaker 2: a but just just like you go into a workplace 211 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: where you want to be what the older people are, 212 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: but you treat them like peers in a very too 213 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: familiar way that didn't exist throughout my entire career. And 214 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: I just had that experience here and now they are 215 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: having this person other person's having it at their workplace 216 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: just like. 217 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Way too much. You know, Hey, Bud, how's it going, Hey, 218 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: what's up dude? A lack of respect? Yeah, And again 219 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to say it without sounding like it. 220 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: But when I started in various jobs, I didn't talk 221 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: to the older people that had the jobs I wanted 222 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: that way and like suggesting ways they ought to do 223 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: things differently. 224 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: And just and I've had a. 225 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: Couple of people mention that sort of thing, and what 226 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: we were discussing is where that comes from? Joe and 227 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: I regularly say and I never hear anybody else say this. 228 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: They didn't raise themselves. But culturally, why do young people 229 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: come into the workplace and feel like they can treat 230 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: their betters as to their beers. 231 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I said they're better while that you do something 232 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: like end up British No less, I don't know what 233 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: the right term would be, but uh no, I get, 234 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I get exactly what you're saying. I don't know, just 235 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. I think it probably 236 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: has to do with virtually all of our experience was 237 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: actual back in the day, and every generation would layer 238 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: a little new laquer details on the way people act 239 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: in quotes, come up with variations and change it a 240 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: little bit. But now so much of people's experience is virtual. 241 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: They're not They're not a product of what they've experienced 242 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: in the same way. I don't know that helped. 243 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: Well, maybe if you're gonna go with multi causal, I 244 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: can throw out a whole bunch of multi causal I think. 245 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the some of the fruits of the 246 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: everybody gets a trophy generation, which has been going on 247 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: for quite a while now. But true, that's part of it. 248 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: The self esteem movement. We went way too far too 249 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: much self esteem, is what I'm seeing. 250 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: You got a miserable failure. 251 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: You've got way too much self esteem for your age 252 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,239 Speaker 2: and where you are, all right, take it down a notch. 253 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: Then what you've accomplished, Yeah, you know, more importantly that 254 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: and the hold the parenting trend. If I want to 255 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: be my kid's friend, not their parent, right, you have something, Michael. 256 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm ashamed to say this, but I watched a 257 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 6: manager reprimand a young reporter and you know, it was 258 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 6: over something very minor, but he basically said, you know, 259 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 6: you need to pick it up, you need to you know, 260 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 6: get with it. 261 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: You're sitting around. 262 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 6: And the young reporter looked at him and said, I'm sorry, 263 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 6: but I've never been talked. 264 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: To that way. 265 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if I can work here. And this 266 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 6: person was like twenty five years old. 267 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so again getting to my mono causal stuff. No 268 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: teacher can talk to kids that way. So if your 269 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: parents aren't talking to you that way, the teachers, the coaches, 270 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: nobody ever talks to you in any sort of way 271 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: that kind of puts you in your place. 272 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: And again it makes me sound like it, but there 273 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: is a place. 274 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: There's a place for children, there's a place for people 275 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: lower on the wrung. 276 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: There's a place. There's a structure, there's a hierarchy in life. 277 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: There just is. I sure as hell hope there is. 278 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Like when I go in for a surgery, you know, 279 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that person did well in medical school, for instance, Yes, Katie. 280 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: Well no, I just think about a lot of the 281 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: younger people too, have kind of been growing up in 282 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: that anti law enforcement generation, Like they don't respect the cops. 283 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: What's going to make you think they're going to expect respect? 284 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: You know, somebody who might have worked at a company 285 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 4: for five years more than them. 286 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 287 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: I think that the lack of respect for law enforcement 288 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: kind of trickles down. 289 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: I don't actually know. It might just be all of 290 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: these things, but I have experienced and it's really off putting. 291 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to explain to my kids to 292 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: have a different attitude when they go into a workplace. 293 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: The people above you with way more experience making a 294 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: lot more money than you. How about you watch and 295 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: observe as opposed to think your peers they got something 296 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: you you might want at some level. I've come across 297 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: enough people bringing this up to know what's a thing. 298 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: If you have any thoughts on it listening to this, 299 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: you could text us or email us. How did people 300 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: email us? Mail bag at Armstrong in getty dot com, Armstrong, 301 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: Fancy Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our podcast one more thing. 302 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: We do a new one every day. Find it wherever 303 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: you find your podcast is now, Katie, you don't know this, probably, 304 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: but Jack and I have had a long running and 305 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: bitter dispute. I really like appetizers or if I'm out 306 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: to eat or whatever. He's got, like he's a member 307 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: of ISIS, He's got this militant anti appetizer belief. That's stupid. 308 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: Just have the meal. Have the meal. You don't need 309 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: to have appetizers. And anyway, I won't go any further 310 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: because again we're not bad mouthing him, okay, and is 311 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: insane and unsupportable some would say idiotic beliefs. But Jack 312 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: is anti appetizer. I, on the other hand, love appetizers, 313 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: and in fact, Judy and I went to a breast 314 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: cancer fundraiser just last night and I bought at probably 315 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: excessive cost, but it wasn't a purchase, it's a donation. 316 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: I bought an appetizer of the month club membership in 317 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: which some of the gifted chefs associated with this community slash. 318 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: It was a golf club. They deliver to your home 319 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: like a gourmet appetizer once a month. I know that's awesome, 320 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: I know. So I'll say, yeah, can we do it 321 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: this coming Friday, And they'll say absolutely, and they'll show 322 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: up with like this brilliantly crafted stuffed mushrooms or something 323 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: like that. It's a great excuse to have like friends 324 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: over for a glass of wine and stuff and we 325 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: get the credit. Oh that is so cool. No, I 326 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: know it. 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: Okay, So what kind of things do they offer? So 328 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: stuff mushrooms obviously, are there other. 329 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized that this the very term has a 330 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: negative connotation, but I don't know why. They did like 331 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: a super delicious cheeseball, one of those big cheeseballs you 332 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: dig in with the knife and put it on crackers. 333 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: But it was like home crafted, Oh cheeseball. Those are 334 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: good cheeseballs. Yeah, that sounds awesome to me. Yeah, and 335 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: a friend, a friend of ours, actually bought this last 336 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: year and I can't remember what else. They're like a 337 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: shrimp thing and various canna pis whatever that is, but 338 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: just super yummy like gourmet appetizers. Yeah. See, this sounds 339 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: like I'm so excited to me. Yeah. Well, I mean 340 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: and particularly I mean it was several hundred dollars again, 341 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: it's a donation, not a purchase. But when you look 342 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: at what you see, bend to like go out for 343 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: a nice dinner now, especially if you have a bottle 344 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: of wine or something. Oh crap. So anyway, I'm happy 345 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: to contribute. Judy, actually she quilted a thing, a golf 346 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: cart seat cover that fits like custom fits around the 347 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: little what do you call it, the hip rest things 348 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: to keep you from sliding off the end of it. 349 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, so we made a nice donation too. It's 350 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: a nice, nice fundraiser. Anyway. The game across this article 351 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: playground bullies do prosper and go on to earn more 352 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: in middle age. This is a five decade study that's thorough. 353 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: It britz Children who displayed aggressive behavior at school, such 354 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: as bullying or temper outbursts, are likely to earn more 355 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: money in middle age, according to a five decade study 356 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: that upends the maxim that bullies do not prosper. Any 357 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: reaction to that, Katie, off the top of your head, 358 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: I can kind of see. 359 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 4: Where they're going with this, because the people that are 360 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: more outspoken maybe going further in business rather than the 361 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 4: meek that get picked on. 362 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, this is one of the 363 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: reasons I'm so militant about in schools not making little 364 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: boys act like little girls, nor should you make little 365 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: girls act like little boys. Let them be themselves, but 366 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: the idea that you're to sit still and be quiet 367 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and just like the girls are doing. Because a as 368 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: a youth coach, mostly in soccer, I coach baseball and 369 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: softball a little bit too, but observing the difference between 370 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: boys and girls. And then I coached gosh, I coached 371 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: eight year old boys, ten year old boys, twelve year 372 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 1: old boys, that sort of range, and then fourteen year 373 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: old girls was the oldest I ever coached. But I 374 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: would watch ten year old boys and there are like 375 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: fifteen guys on the team, right, So it's a nice 376 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: like selection of different sources of human beings. And you 377 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: could see, Okay, that kid is going to be a 378 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: dynamic leader, but at age ten, he's obnoxious because he 379 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: has the tool, but he doesn't know how to wield 380 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: it properly. That's a great point. Yeah, just and I 381 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: wish I'd thought about this more, but I could give 382 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: you more examples of just they're all diamonds in the rough. 383 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, some of them are probably going to end 384 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: up in jail or beating their spouse or something like that. 385 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody's a diamond, but they're they're too 386 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: much of everything. But that's how you end up, I 387 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: think with a good man. It's very rare that a 388 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: meek Well, no, I don't want to I don't want 389 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: to overstate this because some people are just introverts. But 390 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: we need to get back to boys will be boys, 391 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: and that that's saying has been perverted to mean allegedly 392 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: so they can do anything they want. But no, that's 393 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: not what that saying means at all. It means you 394 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: have to put up with the excesses of boyhood to 395 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: end up with good men. Now I'm a poor bullying 396 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: but go ahead. 397 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 4: No, I like what you said too about they have 398 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: the tool, they just don't know how to use it yet. 399 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: Because you do. 400 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 4: You might see a leader in this ten year old, 401 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: but that not yet because right now they don't know. 402 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're loud and obnoxious, yeah, or they bully 403 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: for instance. Now, some bullies remain bullies in their a 404 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: holes and I hate them and I hope they go 405 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: to prison. But some people, you know, this is if 406 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I haven't told this story in ages. I remember the 407 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: first time I told this story. Now, Gladys, do you 408 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: play the harp when I'm thinking about I'm looking back 409 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: at telling a story about looking back? Yeah, she's here 410 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: for do you play the harp twice? Or how does 411 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: that work? Doesn't he just go ahead and start talking? 412 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: So I was, uh, I was having this argument with 413 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: a frenemy. Okay, he I was like the pitcher on 414 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: the baseball team, the high school baseball team, and he 415 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: was the catcher, and he was a really good catcher, 416 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: really good ballplayer. But he and I had this like 417 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: two alpha dogs thing going on, and so there was 418 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: respect and all, but we clashed. We clashed a fair amount, 419 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: and we got We got into it one time verbally 420 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: and he said to me, and I wish I had 421 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: I wish I had written the quote down. He said 422 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: something like, I'm not even going to get into it 423 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: with you because you'll cut me to bits. And I 424 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: thought he sees my verbal ability as a tool of 425 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: meanness and cruelty. And I thought, I don't want to 426 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: be that guy ever. Again. I don't want to, I mean, 427 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: unless somebody's got a coming I decided, Okay, I have 428 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: the ability to hurt people with words, I am never 429 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: going to do that to an innocent victim. And maybe 430 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: I've lapsed at times of loss of temper or what 431 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: have you in the intervening years, but I've never thought 432 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: of myself. Part of it is I never thought of 433 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: myself as a bully, because I would never hurt anybody physical, right. 434 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: But I realized at that moment he used me as 435 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: some sort of verbal bully, and I thought, I'm not 436 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: going to be that and so, and I hate that. 437 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: This is painful for me to admit that I might 438 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: have kind of been that quote unquote bully who then 439 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: grew up to not be a bully as an adult. 440 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: That's interesting because when you said what when you quoted 441 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: what he said, I heard it as like you were 442 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: you have more of a verbal ability than him, Not 443 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: that you're cruel with your words, but that you you 444 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 4: could verbally take him if you guys were to get 445 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: into an argument. 446 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: Right, right, I guess I guess The subtlety of it 447 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: is I always saw it as like winning an argument 448 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: as opposed to leaving a victim. Okay, well, it's you know, 449 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: like the typical adolescent. It was self centered. I looked 450 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: at it from my point of view. I win, and 451 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: I spanked him and sent him running. Yeah, but I 452 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: hadn't developed the compassion to really see it from the 453 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: other person's perspective. And like I say, if it's somebody 454 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: trying to, for instance, you know, like push experimental sex 455 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: change procedures on children, I'll rip them apart. If I can, 456 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: I will turn every skill I have full blast for 457 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: the kid's sake. But like I said, no, no, nobody 458 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: who doesn't have it coming, I just won't do that. 459 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And recognizing that about yourself too is a big 460 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: thing because I have a very similar I like to 461 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: call it a sharp tongue, especially when I. 462 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Hear that at all. 463 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 464 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't have that one bit. 465 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: But that's something that I've been working on my whole life, 466 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: is realizing Yo, okay, cool it because I know that 467 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: once it takes off, bad news bears. 468 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: Right, right, you don't punch everybody who deserves it. Yeah, 469 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: And you don't, you know, strip them naked with your 470 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: verbiage if they don't deserve it either, even though you can. 471 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: And when they do, though, alway, is it fun? So 472 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: now the temper outburst thing is interesting. They found an 473 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: increase in teachers observations of conduct problems such as temper 474 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: outbursts or bullying or teasing other children, was associated with 475 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: an increase in earnings of nearly four percent of any 476 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: given rise in conduct problems for boys or girls. That 477 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: compares to a six percent rise for higher cognition skills, 478 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: and so as a measure of who's going to do well, 479 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: at least financially an old boy, Now that I think 480 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: about it, that's an interesting way to measure this anyway, 481 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: But being like hot tempered is almost as good an 482 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: indie cater of being successful in life is being smart. 483 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, based off how they put it. 484 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Wow, it's forty percent of six Well, I 485 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: guess you could say it's fifty percent more likely, but 486 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: you see my point. Further analysis showed that by age sixteen, 487 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: those with the conduct problems were more sociable as teenagers 488 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: and were more likely to smoke and be arrested at 489 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: some point in their lives. Oh there's that. Wow. So 490 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: is it just being more dynamic in general? I do 491 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: not know. Yeah, They point out, many people, many successful 492 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: people have had various problems in school like Winston Churchill, 493 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: various folks expelled, suspended who ended up being famous or 494 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: successful or what have you. Well like in today's news. 495 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: I mean, look at Trump, He's considered a bully. 496 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: He's probably didn't like that his whole life. Yeah, I 497 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: think he's still a bully. It's one of the things 498 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't particularly like about him. 499 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 6: But I was thinking about Steve Jobs, genius, but I've 500 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 6: heard he was a complete bully. 501 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right at when. Yeah, I was picturing 502 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: his youth, but yeah, running apple, he was absolutely was. Yeah. 503 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, maybe this boils down to and this is 504 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: an old, old message. Don't make kids sit still and 505 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: be quiet and all act the same because they're not 506 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: the same. There's a cynical view of education that modern 507 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: education exists purely to turn people into rule following drones. 508 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: And you know, I certainly hope that's I know a 509 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: lot of gifted teachers and that's not what they're trying 510 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: to do. But just to what, to whatever extent, that's 511 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: what's happening. Resist that, Yeah, a big yick. Yeah, we 512 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: need more kids who end up smoking and getting arrested 513 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: because the other ones will be Winston Churchill. I think 514 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: that's our takeaway here. What something like that nailed that 515 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: your sweatshirt either says I p A or E p A. 516 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: I assume it says I p A like the beer, 517 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: and not E p A like the you're not wearing 518 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: a sweatshirt. 519 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: That you wouldn't catch me dead in an ep A 520 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: swatcher Environmental Protection Agency swag. I was just gonna say 521 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: how many how many agency government agencies have swag? I 522 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: know the CIA and FBI? Do do they like for 523 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: public purchase? 524 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: Oh? 525 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely cool. I might have to get some of that. 526 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: I wear my FBI swag all the time and arrest people. 527 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna get the CIA stuff. I need you 528 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: to open your trunk. 529 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I bring them to justice. Open the trunk. Please you 530 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: make lights on your car too, so you can really 531 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: who are you? I'll ask questions. You open the trunk. 532 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Can I see your badge? Can I see your hands 533 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: behind your back? And then I cup them? 534 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: Uh? 535 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: So this I hope this. 536 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: I hope this works what I'm about to do here. 537 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: I came across this last night and I laughed out 538 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: loud several times. So it's a guy with a kind 539 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: of funny laugh and this is pretty long. He's speaking 540 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: a different language. I don't even know what language it is, 541 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: but I don't speak it. But it was still funny 542 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: and I could pick up on the universal cadence of 543 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: telling a story. And then he starts laughing about the 544 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: story and then filling in more details and continues to laugh, 545 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: and the other guy's laughing, and it just and then like, 546 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: you know, then you won't believe this, and then they 547 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: I guess that's what he's saying. 548 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't speak the language. 549 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: But if this is funny to you the way it 550 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: was to me, I think it says something about humor 551 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: or because I've often thought people that are really really funny, hey, 552 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: and don't they don't even need words. Their timing is 553 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: so good. The joke doesn't even have to they even 554 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: have to be a joke. The time means it's so 555 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: perfect it's funny just with the timing. Yeah, I suppose anyway, 556 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: we'll see if this is funny or not. You're not 557 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: supposed to understand what this person is saying. He's telling 558 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: the story good loud, Michaels. 559 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 7: Hey, chank. Now we're gonna Chandler here. 560 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: You're your money in the. 561 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 7: Battle, even goes, yeah, they dropped, I know. 562 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 8: I got that. Yeah, tell you. 563 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: By Dude is amused. 564 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: First of all, I would like to have somebody translate 565 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: that story to me, because. 566 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: I just feel like at some point it was like 567 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: and then no, you won't believe this that she walks 568 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: in with a canary on her head. No I'm not 569 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: done yet. 570 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: Her husband turns around and he says, but a dog 571 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: comes into the room. 572 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: And hold on, I'm not done. I just hope the 573 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: translation of that story isn't they were complaining about how 574 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: loud my party was, so I went to their home 575 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: and murdered them all. 576 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: Or it's incredibly yeah, it's incredibly graphic sexually or something. 577 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean just like the racist or something. 578 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh my god, the record. 579 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: We got no idea what Bro was saying, and that. 580 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Maybe you should have run this by somebody who speaks 581 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: whatever language that is before. 582 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: Rapping this out. 583 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, yeah, exactly, because this could be the most racist, sexist, 584 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: overtly horrifying joke you've ever heard in your life. 585 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: And then the Nazis don't even say it. Boy Dude's 586 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: laugh was just insane. Wait wait, I thought that was it. No, 587 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: that's not the end of it. It must about a 588 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: heck of a joke. 589 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 4: I think his laugh might have been what was making 590 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: you laugh, because it just just his laugh itself was 591 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 4: was funny? 592 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I would clearly the infectious laugh had something 593 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: to do with it. 594 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: I would like to have the slightest idea what the 595 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: story was about, because it's got many tags, and just 596 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: when you think it's over, it's not. 597 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly, yeah that her husband, Her husband says, no, seriously, 598 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: this is what he said, right. Uh yeah, I wonder 599 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: can we run that through Google trap figure out what 600 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: sort of horror we've unleashed the closet and his mom 601 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: is standing there and just keeps going and going. The 602 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show