1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Well, there have been a lot of horror flicks about 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: killers who hunt their victims, sort of like the classic 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Most Dangerous Game and Ready or Not. But in the 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: real life case of Robert Hansen, this was his regular mo. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: So put yourself there. Imagine running for your life through 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: the Alaskan wilderness at night. You're being chased by a 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: guy who people in town only know as a shy, polite, 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: church going family man. But to him you are his prey. 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm Patty Steele Baker by day, hunting humans by night. 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: That's next on the backstory. We're back with the backstory. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: Robert Hanson is believed to have raped and murdered at 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: least seventeen women between nineteen seventy two and nineteen eighty three. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: What's terrifying about his mo is that he'd kidnap his victims, frequently, 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: fly them in his small plane into the wilderness, release them, 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: and then hunt them down. Don't you get chills imagining 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: what that must have felt like for his victims. To 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: understand how somebody evolves into a deranged killer, he got 18 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: to look at their past. Robert Hansen, born in Iowa 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty nine, is a quiet kid with a 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: stutter and painful acne. He's uncomfortable around people and prefers 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: to spend his time in the woods. He learns to 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: hunt early on, but the woods aren't in answer to 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: his growing disconnect and upset with other people, particularly women. 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: At twenty one, he does time after setting fire to 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: a school bus garage. He gets involved in other petty crime. 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: He marries and divorces, then gets married again. Now it's 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, he's twenty eight years old and Robert 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: moves to Anchorage, Alaska with his second wife. There he 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: opens a small bakery. The neighbors like him. He's shy, 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: but friendly and polite, like the rest of the married 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: guys in town. He goes to church and spends a 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of his free time hunting. Now at the time, 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Anchorage is just beginning to explode. It's a small city 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: supercharged by pipeline money and the swarm of workers it 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: brings in. It also attracts young women looking to make 36 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: a buck as dancers and sex workers, but these are 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: also women's society doesn't pay a lot of attention to. Usually, 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: they don't have much in the way of family ties. 39 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: If someone makes them uncomfortable, nobody's going to listen to him. 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: If they disappear, it's pretty unlikely anybody will look for them, 41 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: And as a hunter, Robert knows how to choose his prey. 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: So this shy, friendly guy develops a rap sheet. In 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, he's arrested twice. In one case, he 44 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: kidnaps and attempts to rape a young housewife. In another, 45 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: he rapes a sex worker, but plea bargains on lesser 46 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: charges keep him from getting long term jail sentences. In 47 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, he's convicted of stealing a chainsaw, and 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: that sentence is later reduced on appeal, and he walks 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: with time served. So on paper, it all looks like 50 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: somewhat minor trouble compared to what authorities don't know. In practice, 51 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: he's testing the boundaries of what he can get away with. 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: Hansen's method is chilling in its routine. He approaches a 53 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: vulnerable woman, often a teenager or a young adult working 54 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: the anchorage strip. He pulls a gun and forces her 55 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: into his car. When his family isn't home, he assaults 56 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: some in his basement. Not unlike Long Island's Gilgo beach killer. 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: He's a control freak, so not every attack involves a chase, 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: but many do. He just wants to control them. After 59 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the initial assault, he drives her to the local airfield, 60 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: loads his small plane, and flies her into remote stretches, 61 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: now out beyond civilization. He releases her into the woods. 62 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: He lets her get a head start to make it more. 63 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Then he pursues her with a Ruger Many fourteen rifle 64 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: or a hunting knife. It doesn't end with the killing. 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: He keeps trophies from his victims, rings, necklaces, small trinkets, 66 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: and so the killings might have gone on longer except 67 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: for one fortunate victim who managed to escape. It's June thirteenth, 68 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three. Cindy Paulson, just seventeen years old, has 69 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: been snatched by Hanson, but as he's loading his plane 70 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: at the airfield, she sees an opportunity to escape. She 71 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: bolts from Hanson's car. She's barefoot and handcuffed, but she 72 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: leaves her blue sneakers in the car as proof she's 73 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: been there. She then flags down a passing driver, so 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: Paulsen lives to tell investigators details about the house. The 75 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: basement the airport and the plane. Strangely, her story is 76 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: at first dismissed by some because she's a teenage prostitute 77 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: and Hannah is a somewhat respected business owner and father 78 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: despite his rap sheet. But soon her story becomes the 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: hinge of the case. One sergeant with the Alaska State 80 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Troopers is already trying to connect bodies found along rivers 81 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: and in the woods out in the Alaskan wilderness. He 82 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: asks the FBI for a profile. The likely suspect, they 83 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: say would be an avid hunter, shy with a stutter, 84 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: a need to keep souvenirs, and access to a small plane. 85 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Makes you wonder how profilers figure all that out right. Well, 86 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: of course, it does make the suspect list really short, 87 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: and Hansen rises to the top. With Cindy Paulson's detailed statement, 88 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: the very specific profile and his past, troopers are able 89 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: to get warrants to search Hansen's home, vehicles, and plane. 90 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: What they find is a nightmare. Firearms hidden in the attic, 91 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: including a Ruger Many fourteen, and boxes of women's jewelry 92 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: that don't belong to his wife. They also find an 93 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: aeronautical chart hidden away, marked with handwritten exes. Investigators plot 94 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: those marks against recovery sites, and while some click into 95 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: place immediately, others lead them to new horrifying discoveries. They 96 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: nab Hansen, and at first he denies all blaming the women. 97 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: He tells them he's the wronged party, that he was 98 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: forced to extremes. So close your eyes, picture the interrogation, 99 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: the table, the picture of water in the center. Officers 100 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: clustered around the murderer. They put the map on the table, 101 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: and they point to his exes. They point out the 102 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: trophies and the gun. Investigators keep hammering away, and finally 103 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: hands and sighs, and bit by bit gives them the details. 104 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: He talks about the women, describing them as a problem. 105 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: He admits to the killings but calls them accidents. Eventually, 106 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: he flo with troopers by helicopter and points out grave 107 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: sites seventeen in all ballistics match bullet fragments to his rifle. 108 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, prosecutors offer him 109 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: a plea deal that will save taxpayer money for further 110 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: trials and keep him off the streets forever. In February 111 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty four, Hanson pleads guilty to four murders, 112 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: plus kidnapping and other felonies. His sentence life in prison 113 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: plus four hundred and sixty one years with no possibility 114 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: of parole. In addition to the seventeen murders and many 115 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: more rapes he admitted to. It's thought he could have 116 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: killed in excess of thirty women. His story is a 117 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: reminder that ordinary folks can have a scary backstory. Hanson 118 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: was liked. He wrapped up pastries for cops and other locals. 119 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: He piled up hunting trophies and bragged about his skills. 120 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: He went to church regularly. He was a dad who 121 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: wore a cardigan sweater, a baker's apron at work, and 122 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: hunting camo when he was going after pray. He looked 123 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: like a hundred other guys in Anchorage who liked to 124 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: hunt and fish and complain about the snow. The press 125 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: called him the butcher Baker. His wife and kids left 126 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: him behind eventually and moved to Arkansas to be with family. 127 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: The story was made into a movie in twenty thirteen 128 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: while Hanson was still alive. The Frozen Ground stars Nicholas Cage, 129 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: John Cusack, Vanessa Hudgens, and fittycent Although it didn't do 130 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: too well at the box office, it's done much better 131 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: on Netflix. Meantime, Hanson never left prison. He served time 132 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: at Spring Creek Correctional Center in Seward, Alaska, and he 133 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: died in twenty fourteen at a hospital in Anchorage at 134 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: the age of seventy five. 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