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Well, it's all because Apple has 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:09.120 a very sophisticated system for making money off of in 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.920 app purchases and subscriptions on the iPhone that developers have 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.480 always had sort of a love hate relationship with. And 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.280 this week was a big turning point for that system 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.079 because Apple lost a big court case and it might 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.720 mean you could save some money and things might become 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.280 easier but also harder on the iPhone. Let me explain 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.840 what happened. So Apple, a judge ruled that they violated 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.320 a twenty twenty one court order that required them to 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.480 allow third party payment links and apps. What does this mean, Well, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.880 it means that when you go to subscribe to something 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.639 on an app, or maybe do an in app purchase, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.000 sometimes developers wanted to be able to show you your options. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:50.240 Right. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.280 Maybe you could use PayPal to pay, Maybe you can 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.920 use a third party website to pay, and all of 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.720 that might be cheaper than using Apple's payment method, which 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.679 is just you know, double clicking that button on the 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.600 side of your phone and using your linked credit card. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.760 In twenty twenty one, a judge rule that Apple had 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.920 to let developers include buttons or links inside their apps 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.160 that would let you know about these options, basically giving 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.320 you a way to pay without going through Apple system. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.639 But Apple never really followed through or at least made 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.200 it really hard and confusing for developers to implement. This 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.200 was not very good for consumers. A judge this week 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:33.080 rule that Apple willfully ignored the order and even referred 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.320 the case to federal prosecutors for possible criminal contempt. Now, 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.440 this judge did not hold back at all. She said 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.560 Apple deliberately tried to protect its revenue stream by dragging 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.800 its feet, and she even said an Apple executive lied 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:51.440 under oath. That's really serious stuff. Now here's what Apple did. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.080 They tried to sneak in a twenty seven percent commission 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.520 on purchases made outside the app store, and she said, no, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.680 you can't do that. That is now. So Apple kind 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.840 of created their own workaround. So if you make a 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.560 purchase inside the iPhone through one of these apps on 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.280 the iPhone, Apple takes a thirty percent cut. Now, sometimes 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.280 it's lower based on how much volume the app developers doing. 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.359 But you know, these developers have always had sort of, 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.000 like I said, a love hate relationship with this. If 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.479 you're a small developer, sure, you make an app, you 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.520 can make a million bucks by a bunch of people 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.200 subscribing to that app, You're more than happy to pay 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.160 Apple thirty percent of that. But once you're a big developer, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.640 like a Netflix or a Spotify or a YouTube, you 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.520 don't really like paying that thirty percent over and over 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:41.200 and over. So here's the deal going forward. Developers starting 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.720 basically now, can include links in their iPhone apps that 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:48.320 lead to cheaper subscription options on the web. So that 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.360 means before, if you went to subscribe to something, developers 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.800 really couldn't tell you that there was a cheaper way 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.320 to do it. They just had to play the game. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.000 Right now they can say, hey, look, you can subscribe 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.080 through iTunes it's very easy. Or you can go to 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.760 our website. You can subscribe that way and save a 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.040 couple bucks per month. Before they weren't even allowed to 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.200 tell you that. Now, not only can they tell you that, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.760 they can also directly link to these other options. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.599 So what's happening? Immediately? 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.359 Spotify and Patreon already said, you know what, we love this. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.480 We are rolling out app updates to take advantage of 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.279 these new rules. Now I expect many other big apps 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.960 to quickly follow, because why, it saves them thirty percent 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.560 just by updating their app. Now, when it comes to 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.040 smaller developers, they'll probably just stick with what they've got 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.680 because it works and thirty percent of whatever they're doing 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.840 on the App Store is probably not that big of 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.960 a deal for them. And also Apple gives them the 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.800 entree to millions of users, So they sort of like that, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.560 where did this all stem from? This all stem from Fortnite? 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.240 They battled Apple in a very big way. Starting in 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.960 twenty twenty, they basically had been banned from the App 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.040 Store because they challenged Apple over all these payment policies. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.560 They tried to put in their app, these external payment 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.919 methods and options, and Apple said, uh ah, not so fast, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.200 you can't do that, and so they were banned from 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.479 the App Store, and then they sued Apple, and this 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.159 has been going on and on for many years. But 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.320 now the court has sided with Epic once again, and 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.120 the game is going to come back to the iPhone, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.920 So sort of a full circle moment. Apple for its part, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.040 of course, as you might expect, is appealing this decision, 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.120 but they are complying in the meantime. So they said 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.640 they totally disagree with this, as you might expect. I mean, 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.039 they've built up this big system. They're not going to 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.640 agree with this in a public way, but they know 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.919 that the walls of this app store couldn't last forever. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.159 But it means that Apple is going to try to 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.719 continue to fight this and protect what they've built. Now, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.800 for you, the consumer, what does this mean. It means 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.680 that you might see lower prices for some of the 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.920 apps that you subscribe to. It might seem it might 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.479 mean that you'll see different options for some of the 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.920 apps that you subscribe to, but there is also a 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.120 risk for you as well. Now, when you were subscribing 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.040 to all of these things through Apple, you did have 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.560 a few advantages, right. Number one, it was easy. All 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.840 you had to do is have one card linked to 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.560 your Apple account. You could subscribe to all of this stuff. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.200 You can easily unsubscribe. It was very protective of your 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.640 personal privacy. Now that is all up in the air. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.920 Now you are going to have to keep track of 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.440 how you subscribe to things, right, so you're gonna have 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.160 to decide do I want to use this credit card? 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.480 Do I want to use that credit card? Also, not 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.640 every app is going to have the same payment flow. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.160 Some of them are going to use PayPal, some of 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.840 them are going to have you go directly to their 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.720 website to put your information in there, And not all 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.640 of them have the same privacy implications that Apple had. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.400 And when it comes to keeping track of your subscriptions 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.040 and unsubscribing, that's also going to be a whole new 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.880 thing because now you're going to have to keep track 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.280 of your subscriptions on your own. You're not gonna be 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.920 able to see them all in one list inside your 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.520 settings on the iPhone. So again pros and cons for 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:13.200 all of this. This This is such an interesting change 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.720 for the App Store and for Apple because you know 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.080 they don't want to do this, but it is a 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.320 win for competition. It could force Apple to improve some 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.800 of its policies over time, so they may say, hey, look, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.480 we're going to charge some of these bigger developers less money. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.800 We're not going to charge in some of these other aspects. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.800 But right now the App Store is very it's a 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.240 very inside baseball kind of place, right A lot of 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.000 this is mysterious. A lot of these deals that they 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.760 have with these big developers, we're not really sure how 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.720 it works. And when it comes to the consumer, it 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.559 has always been easy to subscribe, but you don't really 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.960 know what's going on in the background. And I think 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.840 that this marks a major shift for Apple when it 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.160 comes to the way that we deal with the App Store, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.439 and for them, you have to understand where they're coming from. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.760 They built this entire system from the ground up. Right 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.439 before the App Store, there was no way of purchasing 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.160 apps in a safe, private method on a phone, and 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.680 this has made many developers rich over the years. It 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.120 has made very many developers, it has built their names 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.680 over the years. I mean, think about it. You can 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.720 come from nowhere, build an app, publish it to the 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.720 App Store, get some buzz behind it, and now you 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.040 are a success story. And Apple has paid out billions 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.640 of dollars over the years to independent developers for what 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.920 they've built on the App Store. But it has always 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.520 been kind of a push and pull situation because when 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.720 you're a small developer, it's great, you're using the App 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.920 Store to your advantage. Right, you're one person, you get 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.760 access to millions, if not, you know, hundreds of millions 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.079 of iPhone users. But if you're a big developer like Netflix, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.560 you're saying, hold on, people already know about Netflix, they 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.520 already know how to subscribe, they already know how to 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.480 find us. The iPhone is just one way of accessing 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.440 our system. So you're not making us or breaking us. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.040 And that's why a lot of these big developers have 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.280 not enabled in app purchases for their subscriptions. Like Netflix, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.240 you can only sign in even with Amazon, if you 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.240 look at the Kindle long time ago, they took away 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.360 the ability to purchase Kindle books on the iPhone. I 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.280 remember this when I was selling my book. It was 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.760 so complicated to tell people how to purchase my book 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.960 if you were buying it from an iPhone, the most 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:37.360 popular device in the world. Why because Kindle Amazon did 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.080 not want to give thirty percent of every ebook purchase 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.200 to Apple just for the ability for people to buy 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.400 their book there. So this is an ongoing thing right now. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:50.160 This does mark a major shift in the way business 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.079 is done on the iPhone. I am sure Apple executives 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.360 are not very happy about this. For consumers, Like I said, 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.320 it is a mixed bag. It's somewhat good, it's somewhat 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.240 bad in other so we'll continue to follow this. I 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.959 think that this is not the end of this situation, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.880 but just the beginning, all right. Eight eight eight rich 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.760 one O one eight eight eight seven four two four 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.559 one zero one. Website for the show rich on Tech 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.559 dot TV. If you got a question for me, give 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.440 me a call. More rich on Tech coming your way 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.760 right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.439 Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:30.120 eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.360 to two four one zero one, the website for the 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.640 show rich on tech dot TV. There you can get 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.360 notes to everything I talk about, and you can read 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.040 this week's newsletter. It's all posted at richon tech dot TV. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.560 Let's go to Mark in San Diego. Mark, you're on 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:48.000 with Rich. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.240 Well, Hi, Rich, great show. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:53.720 I appreciate you taking a call. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.160 I have an older pixel for a I really love 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.160 the phone because it a little smaller. I had a 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.280 new battery put in it, you know, like last year, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.600 and it's working great again. But now of a sudden, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:10.640 my GPS doesn't work. And I've done all the software 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.760 fixes and all the tricks that everybody you know mentions, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.439 but it seems like it's a hardware issue, like something 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.760 internally has failed. The rest of the phone works fine, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.720 but I'm just wondering cannot be fixed? Or two should 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.000 I just get a new phone? 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:26.840 Or three? 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.520 Should I buy a standalone GPS? Because I really like 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.160 this phone. I'd like to stay with something similar to 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:32.840 it in size. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.480 What was the what are the option? What did you try? 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.000 What did you try to do on the phone? You 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:38.599 said you try to. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.520 I did all the things where you go into your 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:46.960 settings and you know, update, you know, location, and exact location. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.520 And there's numerous tricks out there that say, you know, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.720 tell you what to do, and I've done them all. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.000 If I even had a. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.880 Google Chat and I went through all the steps with 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.200 them and it it still doesn't work. And I did 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.240 download the GPS test. Yeah, I think I heard about 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:11.080 it possibly on your show, and it just doesn't recognize 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.640 any of the satellites. Just nothing interesting any of them. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.840 Okay, Well, I mean it's a great phone. It's had 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.800 a good run. I think that if if this GPS, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.240 if Google, you know, if you talk to them and 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.640 they weren't able to figure out what's happening with it. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.800 The only other suggestion I would say, the only thing 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.560 you know, it sounds like it's a hardware issue. Does 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.839 sound like something has failed inside this phone. The only 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.760 other thing I would say is go into your settings 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.960 and then go into let's see system and then at 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.160 the bottom you've got the reset options. So you've got 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.800 reset mobile network settings, reset Bluetooth and Wi Fi. So 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.480 I would try those two options as kind of like 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.559 their last ditch effort to get this thing to work. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.360 And then if that doesn't work and you still want 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:02.199 to keep this phone, you might just try a factory reset, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.319 just to like see if something is impeding the GPS 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.520 on this device. You changed some sort of setting, but 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.080 it sounds like you've kind of exhausted all of those options. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.520 So this phone's been around for a while. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.760 It's been it was released in twenty twenty, so it's 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:21.800 not getting any software updates. The software support from Google 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.360 ended almost two years ago on this This was before 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.920 Google started doing seven years of updates for their Pixel 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:34.520 line of phones. So my advice is to do that first. Try, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.840 you know, exhaust all the software options. If it still 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.560 doesn't work, you could take it to a place like 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.440 you Break I Fix and see if they you know, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.080 they'll give you a free estimate on what it would 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.560 take to fix it. But honestly, I think that that 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.920 even if you spent one hundred dollars on this phone, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.600 I think that's too much to fix this. At that point, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.720 I would recommend they just came out with the Pixel 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.480 nine A. I've got it in my hand right now, 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:01.040 I've been testing it. It's a fantast a little phone. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.960 I'm not sure of the screen size of the Pixel 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.640 nine A versus the Pixel four A. It might be 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.120 a little bit bigger. Let's see, I'm gonna see if 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:16.000 I can find this screen size online here. It's always 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.440 so tough to type in when i'm let's see five 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.720 point eight versus six point three. Okay, so it is 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.840 considerably bigger. But I will tell you I think that 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.800 the phones have gotten a lot smaller in the hand, 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.040 so I think you'll you'll probably still be okay with 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.040 the size of this new phone. Like, this thing fits 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.440 perfectly in my hand. It is such a great size. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.200 So that phone is four hundred ninety nine dollars. I 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.800 would say, if you, you know, if you want to 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.560 get this thing, get it now. But I would expect 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.960 the price on the Pixel nine A to drop two 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.240 about three ninety nine on sale, or at least four 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.720 point fifty on another you know, if it goes on 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.360 maybe not the best the biggest sale, like maybe it 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.600 might drop fifty to one hundred dollars. That's what I'm 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.000 trying to say here. But I think that's probably your 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.200 best bet at this point. Mark, you've had this phone 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.400 for a long time, You've tried all the things. I 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.920 don't think your solution the third solution you mentioned, which 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.280 is getting a standalone GPS absolutely not. Not In this 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.120 day and age, we rely on GPS way too much 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.760 to have to have such a limitation on your GPS 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.040 to being in just a car or a separate device. 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.640 So I'd say go with the Pixel nine A. It's 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.840 a great phone. It's got all the latest software on it, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.080 it's got all the latest AI stuff, it's got the 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.760 latest camera. So I think you're going to be much 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.240 better off putting your money towards that versus putting your 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.800 money towards this old phone. And by the way, the software, 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.080 the Android updates and the security updates for this phone 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.120 ends in seven years, which is October first, twenty thirty two. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.880 And just based on what you're telling me, Mark, with 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.160 how how much you've taken care of this four A, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.040 I think that you will probably call me in twenty 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.040 thirty two if me and Bobo are still sitting here 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.400 and tell me, hey, Rich, I'm still using this nine A. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.800 I love it so great call. Thanks for the thanks 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:01.360 for the question. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.880 Eight eight eight Rich one on one eight eight eight 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.320 seven four to two four one zero one. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:08.520 Uh. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:14.000 Microsoft says they are pushing passwords closer to extinction. I'll 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.159 tell you what they're replacing them with Coming up next, 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:18.280 you are listening. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:19.240 To rich on Tech. 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.119 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:29.880 out with you, talking technology. We all hate our passwords, right, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.760 I mean, who likes remembering passwords? I mean I don't 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.879 even remember my passwords since I'm using a password manager, 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.280 which you should be too. But if these companies have 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.879 their way, we will not need to use a password manager. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.240 We won't need passwords at all. Microsoft made a big 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.919 move this week. They are pretty much eliminating traditional passwords. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.440 They are shifting away from them, and they are now 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.119 letting you sign up for new accounts without a password 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.840 by default. So basically, they will figure out a way 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.399 that you can log in, whether that's sending you a 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:09.680 confirmation code to your email or a pass key, your face, fingerprint, whatever, 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.760 they will just let you sign up with that now 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:16.000 by default. So this is a big, big shift. They 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:21.119 say it is a lot safer, and they've renamed World 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.160 Password Day to a World past key Day because they're 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.679 done with passwords. So if you're not familiar with the 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.920 idea of if you've signed up for a website lately, 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.159 sometimes you'll notice this, says just pop in your email 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.959 and they send you like a link to your sometimes 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.439 they call it the magic link, and you'll go to 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.159 your email and you'll click that link and you'll be 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.760 logged in. The reason that's a lot safer is because 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.879 they figure, well, if you have access to your email, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.040 it's a lot safer than having, you know, entering in 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.720 some password that can be lost or stolen or figured out. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.920 And then of course they have these past keys which 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.280 are being pushed more and more, and a past key 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.719 lets you log in using the way using a secondary device, 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.400 like whether it is your face, your fingerprint, your pin 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.240 on your computer or on your phone. So let's say 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.240 you set up a pass key to log into your 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.920 Microsoft account. Next time you're you know, you see that 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.480 sort of login screen, it'll say open up your phone. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.399 It'll send like a little message to your phone. You 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.000 open that up, and that's how you log in. So 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.800 they say that passkeys are eight times faster than passwords, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.160 three times higher success rate, and nearly a million pass 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.200 keys are being created every single day for Microsoft services 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:35.600 like Xbox and Copilot. 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:37.960 So this is pretty wild. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.320 This is a major major shift, and in fact, you 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.000 can go into your Microsoft account and delete your password 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.360 at this point if you don't want to use it anymore. Now, 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.119 remember we talked a couple weeks ago about how many 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.080 logins I had or log in attempts I had on 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.200 my Microsoft account. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.160 So this is happening in a big way. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.520 To Microsoft, they say password attacks are happening seven thousand 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.000 times per second, double what they saw in twenty twenty three. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.160 The scam artists know that passwords are coming to an 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.400 end and they have to figure out new ways of 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.880 tricking people. And the best part about a pass key 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.119 is that you can't be tricked. So we talk about 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.200 phishing scams all the time, where you go to a 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.399 website to log in, it's a fake website. It's something 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.879 hackers set up to capture your password. Well, with pass keys, 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.520 that will not work because the fake website can't send 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.960 that notification to your phone because it's fake. They don't 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.320 have a way of sending that to your phone. So 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.880 it's a whole system that we are coming up with, 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.879 these tech companies are coming up with to kind of 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.359 foil the hackers and the scam artists out there. So 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.959 if you're not embracing this stuff, embrace it. And you know, 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.879 use other methods. The passwords are no longer a good method. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.719 Let's go to Paul Paul in a Columbus, Ohio. 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.080 You're on with Rich Py Rich like love the show 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:06.560 Thank You Got a High sense fifty five inch TV 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.720 a little not quite a year and a half old. 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:13.080 It's like a series seven point five because about it 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.119 at Costco and happen to be what they had. Uh 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.800 on black screen the lower left quadrant er so is 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.679 well when the screen is black, otherwise it's not black, 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:30.960 it's gray on that section. Uh So the automatic dimming, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.520 I guess isn't working properly. Is that a fixable or 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:35.680 is that a replaceable? 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.679 Ooh, it probably is fixable. That's so. 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.000 Basically the way these TVs are lit is they have 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:43.840 a bunch of back lights. Is this this is not 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:45.960 a mini LED. I'm guessing it just has like a 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:50.040 local dimming. There's like sections of the TV that are 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.200 lit up by different sort of lights in the back 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.479 of the TV. And so the higher the higher end 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.600 the TV, the more of those sections they have. So 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.479 when you hear like many LEDs, they have like a 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.640 lot of these little lights in the back that light 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.639 it up ol ed is actually does. It can't have 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.840 this problem because OLED's are like each individual pixel is 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.800 sort of lit by itself. But what you're talking about 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.560 is this is a local dimming area of the TV, 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.320 so it must have like, you know, probably one, two, three, four, five, six, seventy, 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.320 and I'm maybe like ten or twelve of these on 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.240 the back of your TV that create the picture. The 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.440 fact that one of these is not firing properly is 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:36.280 definitely a physical issue. You can try. You can try 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.480 doing a factory reset on the TV. Go into settings 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.160 and like completely factory reset it and see if that 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.000 kind of gets things working again, gets this thing back 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.359 in sync. But it sounds like something has physically gone 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:53.520 wrong on this TV, So you can try bringing it 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.679 in somewhere or call a TV repair person if they 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:58.080 even have those these days. 0:22:58.560 --> 0:22:59.080 It's funny. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.800 I saw I was dry and I saw like one 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:03.639 of these old school places. It looked like it was 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.040 out of the fifties. It was like TV repair. I 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:07.560 was like, Oh, that'd be such a cool place to 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.639 do a story on, right, you know, like for my 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.720 KTLA's TV stories. You know, go in there and just 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.320 watch the person as they fix TVs and this and that, 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.440 and so I took a picture, and I went back 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.359 and I googled it and got the phone number, and 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.280 it was like permanently closed. I was like, ah, I 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:23.719 knew it. 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:24.159 I knew it. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.680 There's just there's not many of these people out there anymore. 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.159 I'm also guessing, Paul, that you did not pay a 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.520 significant amount for this TV. I know what I paid 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.800 for my sixty five inch High Sense. It was probably 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.680 I think it was about eight hundred bucks, maybe under 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.720 one thousand dollars. So I would say that you can 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.480 maybe get an estimate if someone wants to give you 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.320 a free estimate on fixing this thing. But I think 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.480 it's probably a total loss, and sadly, it might be 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.760 something you just want to properly recycle and get a 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.960 new one of it happens. It's it's, you know, it's 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:01.240 it's part of the idea of these TVs are made cheaply. 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.000 I'm not saying High Sense, but in general, you know, 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.439 these TVs nowadays are made so cheaply. Unless you're getting 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.080 the super high end OLED TVs, you know, the rest 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.000 of them are very inexpensive. And so it just sounds 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.760 like you might have gotten one that's you know, has 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:19.600 a problem. The only other thing I would look at 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.680 you did say you bought at Costco. They do have 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.160 a Costco Tech support hotline, so I would call that 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:30.640 tech support hotline, and in general, I know Costco used 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.000 to have sort of like unlimited returns with electronics. You 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.479 can try bringing it back to Costco and seeing what 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.480 they say. I think they've limited that since to like 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.879 a two year warranty, but don't quote me on that, 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.040 because you never know. I mean, you could probably bring 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:47.800 this thing into Costco and just say, hey, look it 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.040 doesn't work, and see what they say. But I think 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.040 the party line at this point at Costco is I 0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:59.240 think it's two years. On electronics, let's say Costco TV return. 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.520 Costco's return policy for TVs and other electronics is now 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:12.119 interesting says ninety days for televisions, projectors, and major appliances. 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.840 Our Costco Technical and Warranty services will assist you with 0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:20.120 technical support and warranty information for many of the products above. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.040 So I would say, since you bought this at Costco, 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.439 I would call them and just see what they say. 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.880 It sounds like they've tightened their return policy. It used 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.119 to be unlimited anything. But all the major retailers are 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.840 sort of doing this, you know, Target, Best Buy, Costco, 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.399 they have, all Macy's, They have all tightened their policies. 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:45.480 Why because things are cheaper nowadays, people are buying things, 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.960 they're returning them more than ever, and they want to 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.359 protect their business. And so I understand that they can't 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:55.359 have these unlimited return policies forever, especially as these places 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.600 are being used as showrooms more and more for people 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.320 to look at stuff in store and then buy it online. 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.399 So yeah, that's the official policy, but you never know. 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.439 You never know, but call them up. See what they say. 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:10.359 I think it's time you might want to get a 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.120 new TV, and yeah, that might just be the time 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.920 for that, all right, thanks for the call there in Columbus, 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.160 Ohio eight eight eight rich one oh one eight eight 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.560 eight seven four to two four one zero one think. 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.960 Speaking of things that are going out of style, Google 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.000 is ending support for its Nest learning thermostats the first 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.920 and second generation on October twenty fifth, twenty twenty five. 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.960 These were sold from twenty eleven to twenty fourteen. After 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.920 that time, these will become a manual thermostat. You will 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.960 not be able to use any apps or assistants or 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.600 the home away assist to control this thing. So again, 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.680 this will become a manual thermostat. It'll keep working. It's 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.520 not going to get software updates, not going to get 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.240 security updates. So if you have one of these, which 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.760 I do, you have to upgrade if you want to 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.040 continue getting all those smart features. Google should have sent 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.960 you an email offering you a discount off the new 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.720 fourth generation Nest Learning thermostat. That'll be one hundred and 0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:12.399 fifty bucks out the door. So again, search your email 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.840 for Nest Learning Thermostat. They probably sent you an email. 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:17.280 I kind of missed it and I went back in 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:18.320 my email and found it. 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:20.119 But if you have one of these. 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.240 First and second generation Nest Learning thermostats, they will stop 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.000 working with all the smart features. 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.840 On October twenty fifth, rich on Tech dot TV. 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.320 More of your calls coming up right after this. Welcome 0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:37.280 back to rich On Tech. Let's go to Matthew and 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.080 Huntington Beach. Matthew, you're on with Rich. 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:41.800 Hey, rich how's it going? 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.679 It is going fantastic? Is it rainy by the beach. 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.399 As well a little bit a little drizzly in the morning. 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.280 But it's starting to kind of righten up right now 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.680 as we speak nice, So weather's good here. So I 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.919 have a quick question for you. So I'm looking to 0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:59.280 downgrade from an iPhone to a flip phone for a 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.159 number of reasons. One being is just I'm on it 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.159 a lot, and I'm in front of my father and 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.800 my daughter sees me on it a lot. And how 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.840 does that even work? Am I able to maintain an 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.439 iPhone and a foot phone at the same time, like 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.960 two numbers at the same time, if that kind of 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:18.159 makes sense? And what realistic options are there? Or is 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:19.639 it just simply for you got to go down and 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.159 straight to a flip phone and tank's an iPhone anymore? 0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.359 Okay, when you say flip phone, you mean a like 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.119 a dumb phone, like a pretty much okay, got it. 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.560 So you want to kind of like during the work day, 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.840 maybe have your regular phone, and then when you're with 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.720 your daughter kind of like you know, zoning out, you 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:36.880 want to have the flip phone. 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.200 Yeah, And I don't need my I don't need like 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.240 all the gadgets and apps for my work, Like I 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:42.719 don't I don't really need any of that. I can 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.560 just use our laptop for it. Like, so for banking 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.000 and all that stuff, I can just use a laptop 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:47.720 or my life's mom. 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:53.080 Okay, So there are a couple of options. So what 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.840 about I mean, I'm just this is just a thought. 0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:01.680 What about using an Apple Watch when you with cellular 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.479 when you're not you know, and you can leave your 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:04.200 phone behind? 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:06.720 Sure, Okay, so that's one option. 0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.840 Okay, So that now the downside to that is that 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:11.600 you will not have a camera. And I know you 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.080 said you have a daughter, so you might want to 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.160 take pictures, you know, if he's in a play or 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.160 whatever you're trying to like focus on right you're at 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.960 the park. So that's the downside of that. Now, because 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.560 I've looked into this myself because as you might imagine 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.840 someone who covers tech for a living, I am immersed 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.040 in screens and there are sometimes I literally rip my 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.360 Apple Watch off my wrist and throw it across the 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.960 room because I'm so sick of the notifications. So the 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.320 other thing you can do is there is a camera 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.240 called the camp Snap. 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:40.280 Have you heard of this thing? 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:41.000 I have? 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.240 So it is a it looks like one of those 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:48.440 cameras like the the old school thirty five millimeters disposable cameras, 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.080 except it is digital and reusable and there's no screen, 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.720 there's nothing. You just literally take pictures on this like 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.600 an old school camera, and then to quote unquote get 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.400 the picture developed. You just plug it into your computer 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.280 and you extract the pictures out of it, so you're 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.800 not looking at them while you're you know, double checking 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.440 them all that stuff. So one option is you've got 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.280 your iPhone, you've got your Apple Watch. You leave the 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.600 iPhone at home, You've got the cellular on the Apple Watch, 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.400 so you're still in touch, you know, if you need 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.480 an emergency whatever. And then you can carry this little 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.600 camera with you when you are, you know, out and 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.480 about with just your watch, and that will disconnect you 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:31.400 from things. And that's probably the easiest, simplest solution that 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.280 gets you where you want to get, right, Okay, that's 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.040 number one. Number two is getting a separate flip phone. 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.160 The thing about the flip phone is that a lot 0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.280 of the carriers they have this thing called number share, 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.520 which means and they all call it something a little 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.560 bit different. I think number shares verizons at and t. 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.320 Let's see what they call it. They call it number sync, 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.960 so you can look what carrier do you have? AT 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.880 and Okay, so AT and T, so let's see what 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.960 they Some of them used to have number sync with 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.720 what's called the light phone. Have you heard of this thing? Okay, 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.280 so the light phone is kind of like a you know, 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.480 the idea that you're talking about is becoming more and 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.320 more popular. The problem is the technology is not necessarily 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.480 kept up. So I think that in the future we 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.960 may see more devices that are kind of a simpler, 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.040 lighter phone that you can sync with your phone number. 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.600 But right now it is not the easiest thing to 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.440 do because your carrier has to allow you to sink 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.760 your phone number with your your standard device. So on 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.960 on AT and T. The only thing I see that 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:42.600 you can sink is your Apple watch or your looks 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:48.000 like your iPad. I'm looking at Android smart watches, tablets. Yeah, 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.600 so I'm not really seeing like the little devices that 0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.080 you can get like it used to be on Verizon, 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.280 they would they had like one little phone that you 0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.160 can sink. I think it was just the light phone 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.000 that you can sink. Let's see, I'm trying to say, 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:04.000 see the eligible devices. Yeah, it's like really just saying 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:09.120 that the smart watches now, which is interesting. So realistically, 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.080 if you wanted to have the same number on both devices, 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.920 you could set up the secondary device with something like 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.520 Google Voice, or you can just forward your calls to 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:20.719 that secondary device. 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.160 When you're off of it, you're just not going to 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:23.000 get your texts. 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.840 So it depends how like how in this you want 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:30.120 to be, right, you know, it depends how like how 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.400 elaborate you want to be? What what are you thinking? 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.800 I mean, it's it goes both ways. I mean, at 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.240 this point, it's just whatever I can because I don't 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.920 need all the technology for my work and my life 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.080 obviously has her phone. So if okay, one of us 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.240 could attach a little bit, if that makes sense, and 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.560 all I need is to call and make text methods. 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.800 Yeah, I would call, you know what, I would call 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.800 up AT and T and just ask them if you 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.720 can if you can set up a flip phone on number, 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.240 saying and if they say like, yeah, we have we 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.600 have these these devices that you're able to do that with, 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.680 just you know, get one of those. But from their website, 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:13.920 I'm not really seeing any sort of solution on their 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:18.080 website that says you can use a flip phone with this, 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.360 But that would be the ideal. 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:24.280 Way to do it right, right, right, right, But the. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:25.840 Other you know, and if it doesn't work that way, 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.719 the other option, like I said, you can forward your 0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.040 calls just when you're using the flip phone, which is 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.040 not ideal. You can Google Voice it and so you 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.160 can have everyone call your Google Voice number, which will 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.560 ring your iPhone and your other device at the same time. 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.960 Or you can see if if your carrier supports a 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.920 flip phone on this you know, number sync situation. The 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.320 other place to look, by the way, for a flip 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.520 phone is called Dumbwireless dot com. If you go to 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.800 their website, they've got all the popular flip phones. I 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.600 think the number one is the Nokia twenty seven eighty. 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.600 It's eighty eight bucks for the flip phone that you 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.600 kind of want. It's like a classic and it works 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.840 with T Mobile eighteen Team Verizon. So but again you 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.040 would have to ask them if you can activate that 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:14.800 as a number sync phone, Matthew, not easy, not easy 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.360 to do. What you're talking about is not is not 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.480 as straightforward as you would think. I personally think the 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.200 easiest way to do it is with the Apple Watch 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.560 because you I know, you have to get another device, 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.719 but it sort of makes it pretty simple. And then 0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.839 you just have the idea of your camera. You can 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.160 just get it, bring a camera with you. And I 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.000 would say that I have done that in the past, 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.279 but most of the time I need a camera when 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.200 I'm out and about and it's you know, it's really tricky. 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.400 But you can definitely go out and just have the 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.680 Apple Watch. With Cellular. You'll get your calls, you'll get 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.880 your text you know, you can do things like maps, 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:47.960 you can do music. I mean, there's a lot you 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.279 can do on the Apple Watch without having your your 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:51.640 phone nearby if it's. 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:52.400 Set up for cellular. 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:53.680 Gotcha? 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.280 All right, good question. 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.480 Yeah, I like I like that you're thinking of this 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.000 because this is me on on a daily basis, like 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.560 thinking about how I can be when I want to disconnect, 0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:08.000 how I can disconnect. It's not an easy thing, all right. 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.520 Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven 0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.759 four to two four one zero one. Coming up, we're 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.640 going to talk about Google's Notebook LM. 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:17.879 This is a really cool. 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.680 Feature that lets you digest information in totally new ways. 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Uh plus more of your calls 0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.439 coming up here and just a moment, but I want 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.200 to talk about this. This Minecraft movie has done really 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.880 well at the box office, over eight hundred million dollars. 0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:12.320 And if you have kids, they might be singing this song. 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.400 Listen you hear that. 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:27.680 That's the stund This is a lead m steeven chickens, why. 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.120 In the mill rises? 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:38.040 And now you haven't the stack? 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.640 This is Jack Black. He is uh Steve in a 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.680 Minecraft movie. He sings this uh goofy thirty four second 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.399 song about cooking chicken with lava And if your kids 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.400 are into Minecraft, uh they know all about the lava 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.120 and all that stuff. It's now the shortest song to 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.239 ever chart on the Billboard Hot one hundred, they doing 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:01.239 at number seventy eight. 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:01.840 Uh. 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.239 They also have an extended version of the song it's 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.319 only a minute fifteen long, that also went viral. It's 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.960 part of the Minecraft movie, which is gross, like I said, 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.680 over eight hundred million dollars worldwide. 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.080 I mean, this is a funny song. 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.359 My kids started singing this as soon as they were 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.520 out of the h as soon as they were out 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.640 of the movie theater, and I didn't give it much thought. 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.480 But then they kept singing it and singing it, and 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.000 now it's kind of catchy. 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:27.799 Let's hear it again. 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:30.560 M h. 0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:38.560 Steve a chicken? 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.080 Yes, why. 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:53.680 Rises to night? You have understand how could you not 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:54.080 love that? 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.879 And if you watch the music video, they literally it's 0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.120 like a Minecraft chicken that they dump lava on and 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.440 it becomes like a crispy delicious chicken. So if you 0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.680 have kids, you have grandkids, you know you've probably already 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.839 heard this, or if you want to bond with them 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.680 a little bit, just be like, hey, what do you 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.080 think about Steve's lava chicken? 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:13.880 Huh sha cha cha. 0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.880 All right, let's go to let's see here, let's go 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.480 to Madonna in Michigan. 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:21.480 Madonna in Michigan. 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.360 You're on with Rich Hi, So can you hear me? 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:26.200 Yeah? 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:27.480 Okay. 0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:31.480 So I have a unique experience with my iPhone, and 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:36.120 it's been my last three iPhones. It randomly calls people 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.719 and it tells me that someone's calling. I go to 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.640 answer the phone and nobody's there. The other person, they 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.600 get a call from me saying I'm calling and nobody's there. 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.640 So it's happened so many times. 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:51.680 I went to. 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.480 Apple said hey, this is happening with my phone. They've 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.520 said they've never heard of it. This is now my 0:38:56.640 --> 0:39:01.800 third iPhone because I've changed phones, graded and it's still 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:02.279 doing it. 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:08.960 Mhmm uh, here's not as much, not as much. 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.680 Yeah, it was calling like it was calling my daughter 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:17.000 every night, and we just decided that unless I text 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.520 her and follow up text. 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:18.759 It's not me. 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:20.120 Yeah. 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.040 I mean, well, it sounds like you have a haunted phone, 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:24.600 but I don't know if that's the case. 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:24.799 Here. 0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.000 Are there any sort of special features you're using on 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.040 this phone or anything that you have turned on, like 0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.160 any any sort of software features that you have activated, 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.880 like any accessibility features. 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:38.800 Nope. 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:40.840 Again, this is a phone. 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.799 Now, but now when you say third phone, have you 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.359 been copying the phone from one to another or have 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.759 you started fresh. 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:49.000 On the phone? 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:51.400 Uh? 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.640 The only thing I downloaded from the last phone is 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.360 my is your what? My contact? 0:39:58.600 --> 0:39:59.240 Your contacts? 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.279 Okay, so you did start fresh, you started completely like 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.520 it didn't say hey, let's copy from your old phone. 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:07.160 Nope? 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.760 Okay, No, what about the case on your phone? 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:14.600 I don't know. 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.280 I bought it at the Apple store. 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.799 Okay. So in the has it been a different case 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.399 for each phone? 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:21.000 Yeah? 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:27.040 Okay, so typically, I mean this definitely sounds strange. It 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.319 should not be happening there are Okay. So just to 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.440 give you an example, now, does this happen when it's 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.880 in your pocket, your purse, you're holding it, not holding it? 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:38.759 Or is it just completely on its. 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.120 Own, completely on its own? 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:42.000 Oh my gosh. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:47.560 Okay, well, Madana, I'm I'm stumped because I so for instance, Okay, 0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.160 before I came on the show, I was playing some 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.800 music and I kept putting my phone. I kept pausing 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.960 the music and then putting the phone in my back pocket, 0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.080 and the music would start playing again because my thumb 0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.319 was just hitting the phone, you know, on the uh, 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.440 you know, the right exact place to play the music. 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.840 The only thing I can think of is I'm wondering 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.920 if there is a way on the iPhone to not 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.839 dial calls unless you type in something like is there 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:20.279 a secondary protection against you know, dialing numbers like you 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.719 have to dial, like a secondary thing, you know, like 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.040 put in like a confirmation code. That might be an 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.160 accessibility feature. I have not heard of that. I've not 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:33.160 I'm just thinking of it. Let's see here screen time, 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.879 let's see accessibility guide it now. Okay, So the only 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.600 other thing I can think of is a couple of 0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.839 things to try. Number one, you can go into your 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.120 phone and you can turn off any sort of like 0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:50.799 raise to wake features, because your phone, you know, it 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.200 won't do things. Let's see if we can turn that off. 0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.719 Oh there, it is raise to wake. So you might 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.480 want to turn off the raise to wake feature and 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.640 display brightness and see if it keeps happening. Okay, that's 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:07.040 number one. Have you heard of that feature? Okay, so 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.920 that's number one, So go into your settings displaying brightness, 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.520 raised to wake, turn that off and then you might 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.560 turn off the always on display as a secondary method. 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.360 So just try those two things to see if it happens, 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.880 if it continues happening. But this is I mean, this 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.839 is like I don't believe in ghosts, but if I did, 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.719 this would be right up there, because I now have 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:35.760 I heard of phones dialing people randomly. Of course, because 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:40.839 we're handling our phones. They're in our purses sometimes our pockets, purses, backpacks. 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.680 Sometimes people forget to forget to lock their phones. The 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.480 only the other thing I would do is make sure 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.719 under your displaying brightness your auto lock is set to 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:54.120 thirty seconds, because some people I've noticed they take their 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.480 phone out, they do something on their phone, and then 0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.640 they just put it away without locking it. So I 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.040 want you to get into the habit Madonna of tapping 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.800 the button on the right to actually lock your screen 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.360 when you are not using it and see if that helps. 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:11.480 And these are all kind of like this is you 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.640 know what, this is your homework. I'm assigning you homework. 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:14.960 This is what I would like you to do. And 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:16.600 then I want you to call me back next week 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.719 and tell me if anything has improved. And then the 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:20.960 other thing you can do if you want to take 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.440 it a step further is to go into your settings 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:30.879 settings General and then transfer a reset phone and then 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.240 you can do a reset and you can do reset 0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.719 all settings and see if that helps. But don't do that. 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.400 That's like the last ditch effort. I want you to 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.840 try the other three, the other three things I mentioned before. 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:44.879 You try that, and then call me back next week. 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:46.680 I want to report and see if this still happens. 0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:51.080 Interesting question. I know you know these things happen. Butt dials, 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.560 pocket dials. I mean, look, these happen all the time. 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:57.440 I've got a couple of relatives that do a pocket 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.360 dial quite often. And you can always tell because all 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:01.960 of a sudden, you just start hearing them talking in 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.359 the background. You're like, uh, do I want to listen 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:05.640 because I don't know what's happening here? 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:06.920 Like you kind of. 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:08.759 Your curiosity is like I want to hear what's your 0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.719 what's happening in the background, But I'm also not sure 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:11.960 what I'm in for, you know what I mean? 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.680 Uh So, yeah, try that and tell me what happens. 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.600 Eighty to eight rich one oh one eight eight eight 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.880 seven four to two four one zero one. 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Website also 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.000 a way to get in touch. Just go to rich 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:04.360 Shawn tech dot tv. Hit contact. That'll send an email 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:09.400 right to my screen. Let's go to Sylvia in Marietta, Sylvia. 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.000 You're on with Rich Hi Rich. 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:13.759 A longtime listener here. 0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:15.520 Rich. 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.719 I live in an area in West Marietta, California, call 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:26.080 it Cresta. It's kind of in the hills, and our 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:32.800 cell reception is terrible. It doesn't matter if it's at 0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.200 and T verive in T Mobile. All the neighbors have 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:40.120 the same issue. We use Wi Fi calling, but even 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:46.560 then reception is really bad. And I was wondering what 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:52.240 you could recommend to boost our signals. 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.280 Why why is the Wi Fi calling? 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.439 You mean Wi Fi calling in your house is bad 0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.000 because it shouldn't be bad in the house. 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.640 It's you know, like I said, it's a rural area. 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:09.440 I I have starlink, my friend has starlink, and and 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:13.880 even with that, the Wi Fi colleague, okay. 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.240 All right, well that that could explain it because starlink, 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:20.560 I mean satellite. The latency on a satellite connection, even 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.200 though starlink is the best, could still be a little tricky. 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:25.480 But I still didn't. 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:30.600 But even when I had the bios internet, it was 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:31.400 the same issue. 0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.200 Really yeah, huh. 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:40.279 There's uh, you know, there's hundreds of people up here 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.720 and we're having the same issue. The SALN reception. 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:44.720 It's just terrible. 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.200 Okay, Well I called a canty and there's there. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.759 Okay, Well, I mean there are Okay, there's a couple 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.719 of ways you can do this. So first off, I 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.600 mean they used to have these things called cell boosters, 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:02.719 which you can install in your home and basically you 0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.960 can use your internet connection. So it's a little box 0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.879 that you get from your cell phone company, so whether 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.040 it's AT and T or Verizon or T Mobile, and 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.520 you basically plug it into your ethernet, you know, to 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.279 your Internet connection, and then that creates sort of its 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:24.200 own cellular connection. But the thing is Wi Fi calling 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:28.080 has really taken that over, so that's why you don't 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.880 hear about these much anymore. But with that said, I'm 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.520 looking at the website and it looks like Verizon and 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.200 AT and T still offer one of these things. It 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.520 may not be free, so you might call them and say, 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.560 you know, plead your case and they may give you 0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.600 one for free. But you know, there looks like they're 0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.279 charging like two fifty two hundred and fifty dollars for 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.359 these things. And the reason why we don't talk about 0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.560 them anymore is because everyone has Wi Fi calling on 0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.719 their phone. You can just flip that on and it 0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.520 usually works pretty well. So before you try this, I 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.560 would just go into the Wi Fi calling settings on 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.240 your phone and just make sure that you're actually using 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.839 that the way it's intended. So if you go into 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:09.080 cellular and then look at your Wi Fi calling. There 0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:13.399 are some options in there, and so I would check 0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:17.440 to make sure those options are on. And yeah, it's 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.399 weird that it's not working because that should at least 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.520 work when you're in your house. So anyway, so the 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.719 first thing to do is is look and see if 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:27.880 your provider offers one of these network extenders and you 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.480 can plug that in and theoretically you should get a 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.000 better signal from that. And the reason why that's a 0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:36.760 little bit different from the Wi Fi calling is because 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.520 it almost, like I think, is the way I understand it, 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:44.520 It sort of pretends it's an LTE signal, and so 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:48.040 your phone is actually connecting with an LTE signal versus 0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.200 that Wi Fi calling, So it might be a little 0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.239 bit better than the Wi Fi calling. And you know, 0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.360 check the return policy. You know, if it's thirty it 0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:56.960 says on the Verizon side, it says free returns within 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.520 thirty days. So it can't hurt to try this, and 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.520 for two fifty dollars to actually get a good signal, 0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:08.560 why not. So that's number one. So I check for 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:12.960 those and see if your carrier provides that or you 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.879 can purchase that. And then the second thing is there 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:20.360 is a company called we Boost and this is pretty 0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:24.680 much like the standard Wi Fi booster company, and they've 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.480 got a whole bunch of products there. They've got one 0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:31.880 called the we Boost Cabin, which it's seven hundred dollars. 0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:34.759 You can install this little antenna on the side of 0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:41.000 your house and yeah, engineered for the most off grid abodes. 0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.600 Cabin works with any device on any US cellular network 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:49.240 up to five G twenty four foot antenna, ten minutes setup, 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:53.960 no subscriptions, reliable connectivity, so thirty day money back guarantee 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.000 on that, free return shipping. Again, so if you really 0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.720 want to try these things, you know, these are the options. 0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.080 So how it works. Let's see, So it's got the 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.319 outdoor antenna, goes to the cell antenna and that's got 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:11.480 a booster and then an inside antenna. So again, if 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.399 you're sticking to where you live there, would you say 0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:17.640 requesta If you're sticking to where you live there, this 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.000 might not be a bad investment for this price. But 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:24.040 again I'm going back to that Wi Fi connectivity. I mean, 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.560 the other thing is that Starlink and T Mobile eventually 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:30.760 are going to offer Wi Fi are cellular calling over 0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:34.000 the Starlink network, so you know that's another option you 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.399 can hold out for that. I don't know when that's 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.320 going to be, I mean right now, we're still waiting 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.480 on the texting ability, but they do say calls are 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:45.080 going to come soon or eventually going to be a 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.520 thing through the Starlink network on Tea mobile. So anyway, 0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.720 a couple of options there. Check out the networking center, 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:54.520 check out we Boost. Two good options to get you 0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:56.960 up and running there. Sorry you're having those issues. We're 0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.959 hearing less and less of the spotty issues and area, 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.040 but look they're still out there and if you live 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.200 in one, it's a pain. Thanks for the call, Sylvia, 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.399 Do appreciate it all right? Coming up, we're gonna talk 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.440 about Notebook LM. If you haven't heard of this, this 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.799 is Google's AI powered research assistant. They are launching a 0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:17.759 mobile app on iOS and Android. It's been desktop only 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.719 since twenty twenty three. Cool feature. I'll tell you what 0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:25.920 it can do for you. Coming up next, Welcome back 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.279 to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:35.600 talking technology. Kevin Wrights, whoever's running your board? Bumper Music's 0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:39.480 your board music? Bumpers is good? I just heard Voodoo Chili. 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:40.160 A while ago. 0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:43.879 My printer wasn't working at that moment, and now at 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.959 prints Voodoo. 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.360 What child child? 0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:54.000 Oh Chili, I can't hear your MIC's not you're not 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:54.799 at your mic. 0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:57.760 I wasn't expecting to have to correct your english today. 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:58.600 Well I didn't know. 0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:03.239 Okay, it's voodoo child, Yeah, child child, drop the D make. 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:06.839 An e Voodoo child. Oh he did write it right, Yeah, 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.399 you just didn't say it right. Was that the song 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:14.040 you chose? Yes, there you go. See where's our ding? 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.120 You need it? See? 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:15.839 Uh? 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.799 Anyway, that was Bobo's pick clearly, because I don't even 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:21.160 know this this song. 0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:25.239 But hey, it fixed his printer, so that's good news. 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:26.800 All right, we got to get to this interview. 0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:30.080 We've got Steven Johnson from Google Labs to talk about 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:33.520 Notebook LM. This is Google's AI powered research and writing 0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:37.080 tool that helps you organize and understand information faster. 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.520 Notebook LM is it is an application out of Google 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:45.960 Labs that is designed to be a tool for understanding things. 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:50.680 So it's an AI powered application you put in whatever 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:53.600 documents you're working on that you're trying to make sense of, 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:58.839 whether it's research, you're working on at school, or it's 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.640 a marketing plan you're developing for your company, and once 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:06.200 you upload that document, it's as if the underlying AI 0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.359 has become an expert in that particular information, and so 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.120 you can ask questions, you can ask follow up questions, 0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.799 you can create what we call audio overviews that are 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:18.560 kind of simulated podcast discussions about the information you've uploaded. 0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:22.880 You can generate study guides and briefing docs, and so 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:27.680 it's basically creates a kind of personalized AI that's really 0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:29.839 grounded in the information that matters most to you. 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:33.160 Oh interesting, So I was sending the impression that was 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.400 just for the podcast aspect, that's just one aspect of 0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:40.040 this tool. What do you think about how that aspect 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:41.879 has sort of taken on a life of its own. 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:46.240 Yeah, it's been really excited to see. We've seen amazing 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:50.799 adoption of it. And there's something kind of magical in 0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:56.520 hearing this audio conversation, very realistic back and forth between 0:54:56.560 --> 0:55:00.319 these two simulated hosts based on whatever information you put 0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:02.359 in there. So people are putting their journals in there 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:03.840 and listening to these two. 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:07.520 AI hosts discussed the latest events in their own lives 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:11.640 where people are using it to study or reviewing like 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.520 scientific papers, so they can kind of listen to them 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:14.799 in the. 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:16.000 Cars they drive to work. 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.239 So we're really excited about it, and we're kind of 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.760 building on those tools. We really want to basically create 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:26.440 Notebook to be a place where we will adapt to 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.759 whatever kind of learning style you have. And so if 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.520 you want to learn by asking questions, we can help 0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.120 you with that. If you want to learn by listening, 0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.239 we can help you with that. In the future, if 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:38.680 you want to learn by watching some kind of video, 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:41.200 we'll probably going to be helping you with that as well. 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.279 How is this born? I mean you said it's a 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:46.400 Google Labs product. 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:48.000 I mean just someone just come up with an idea 0:55:48.000 --> 0:55:51.359 of like, hey, let's make AI personal and work for you. 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.520 Yeah, it's the backstory of it is kind of interesting. 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:56.719 So I've spent most of my career as a writer. 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.680 I've written fourteen books on a whole range of topics, 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.560 and a few years ago Google reached out to me 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.440 and said, hey, would you want to come to Google 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:08.400 and help us build the kind of the dream like 0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.600 writing and research and thinking tool that you've always wanted 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:15.160 to have, now powered by AI. And they put together 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:17.960 a small team to kind of build a prototype, and 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:21.120 so I joined in the summer of twenty twenty two, 0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:25.960 and somehow, you know, almost three years later, here we 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:27.920 are with nobook LM and you know, one hundred and 0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:30.600 eighty countries around the world and a big part of 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:32.280 Google's AI efforts. 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:34.640 What do you make of the success of this. 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.920 I think it shows that people are really drawn to 0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:46.120 this personalized AI vision, right, So it's it's not just 0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:49.720 about talking to a general model that knows a little 0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:53.440 about everything in the world, but rather taking the power 0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.960 of AI and the ability of AIA to help you 0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.520 understand things and help explain things to you and help 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:03.160 you organize, but grounding it in your own documents or 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.680 whatever you're trying to make sense of. I think that 0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:11.560 that really unlocks a whole new capability set of capabilities 0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:15.080 for AI that I think people who just had a 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:18.960 few conversations with a general purpose chatbot probably didn't realize 0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.400 was possible. And once you get a taste of it, 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:22.600 it's really quite extraordinary. 0:57:23.160 --> 0:57:25.680 How have you evolved notebook LM since you introduced it. 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:29.480 We've also made it easy for people to discover sources 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:33.800 that they might want to explore. So you can just say, hey, 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.480 I'm interested in the history of piracy in the seventeenth century, 0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:39.440 and we'll go out onto the web and find a 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.160 collection of high quality sources and bring them directly into 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.040 your notebook to make it easier for you to explore 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.080 that information in kind of a one click way. 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:49.560 How does the average person access this? 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:52.240 You just visit. 0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:57.160 Notebook LM dot Google dot com, signed into a Google account, 0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:00.520 and you can get started right away. And the easiest 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:04.400 thing to do is to create a new notebook and upload, 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:06.680 you know, just just some of the recent documents you've 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:10.440 been doing in your work or your studies, and just 0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:14.680 start interacting generated an audio overview, ask some questions and 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:18.560 you'll get a sense of just how nuanced and sophisticated 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.000 the model is and understanding what you've shared, and then 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.080 then you can kind of start thinking about like, Okay, 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:25.760 I have this project, I'm going to create a new 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.360 notebook for this project. I'm gonna load up these documents 0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:32.240 for that particular project. And then I think most folks 0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.360 will find that it really gets integrated into their kind 0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:35.920 of day to day workload pretty easily. 0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:38.920 And who are these podcasts hosts. 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:45.040 They are two people who we trained on their voices. 0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:50.160 We have not revealed who they are in actuality. But 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:53.920 what's interesting about the process for training the you know, 0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:59.560 the voices, is that the voice model was trained from 0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.480 the ground to be a conversational model. So it wasn't 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:04.240 like we trained on one voice and we trained on 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.120 another voice and we just stitched them together in a 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.920 script like those two people sat in a studio for 0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.480 hours and hours and hours and hours talking and we 0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:16.200 learn over time how they interact. And that's why the 0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:21.240 audio overviews I think sound so kind of convincing. Is 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.200 you really get all the nuances of two human beings 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.000 in conversation with each other, and the way that we 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:29.360 subtly interrupt each other and the sounds we make when 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:32.680 we are affirming what the other person is saying. There's 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:34.480 a kind of magic in that that I think people 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.160 just hadn't heard before this. 0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.520 Okay, so a version of this made it to Gemini, 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.640 like the main app right, So is that is that 0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:42.520 exciting for you? 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:43.479 Yeah? 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.440 We were one of the things that we try to 0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:48.040 do with labs and Notebook has just been kind of 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.480 the most high profile version of this is you know, 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:55.480 we're trying to constantly innovate and generate new kind of 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:59.760 product based user focused experiments where we're trying to build 0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:03.160 use but we're also trying to build sometimes crazy things 1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:07.520 and and and and work quickly. And so what we 1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:11.240 want to do is it is create an environment where 1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:14.600 we're generating new ideas that can then graduate up to 1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:17.640 other products in the in the Google family. I mean, 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:19.840 Gemini is kind of going to sense the closest product 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.320 to us, so having audio overviews show up there makes 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:25.160 a lot of sense. But we you know, we're able 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:27.440 to kind of move pretty quickly because we're smaller and 1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:32.760 more nimble. And if things that we end up spawning, 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:36.000 you know, populate the rest of the Google ecosystem, I mean, 1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:37.760 that's that's exciting for us. 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:41.320 And just finally, you know, you said you wrote fourteen books, 1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:45.080 you're a writer, lifelong writer. What do you make of 1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.360 all of this AI stuff that you're building? Like and 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.160 you know people are worried about this taking over what 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:53.280 they do you know, seeing it on from the inside, 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:54.280 do you think that could happen? 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:55.480 And are you worried about that? 1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:59.440 I'm not worried about it. Short term I'm very confident 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:02.600 that short term, I am going to be a much 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:07.120 better writer, much more efficient writer, because of AI, because 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:10.200 of tools like notebook LM. I'm dying, for instance, to 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:12.840 go write my next book. But this day job, I 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:16.000 somehow found myself in no book el I'm was taking 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:18.880 up all of my time. So I think there's a 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:21.840 long period there where like, if you embrace these tools, 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:24.600 you know, you're able to be more creative, You're able 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:26.640 to you know, use the tools to help you remember 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:28.120 all the things that you have to remember to write 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:31.920 a book. It's you know, it is going to be 1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:36.160 a real assistant to the writing process and to the 1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:40.280 research process for a long time. If we were to 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:44.280 get to a point in some future, way off point 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:47.200 where you know, you could hit a button and write 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:52.560 a Stephen Johnson, you know, a book automatically one, I 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:54.600 don't think that's likely. But if we do get to 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:57.680 that point, that the fate of nonfiction writers will be 1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:00.240 like the least of our problems. That will really each 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.840 a new level of artificial intelligence. So we'll have profound 1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:06.760 societal implications. But I don't see that on the horizon 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:07.200 right now. 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:12.360 All right, Thanks, thanks again, Steven Johnson at Google Labs. 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:16.480 Here is what the podcast that they create sounds like. 1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:19.640 If you're just charric dive today, we're really zeroing in 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:23.800 on the Microsoft twenty twenty five word Trend Index annual report. 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:26.840 Yeah, and this isn't just another forecast. 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:26.640 Is it? 1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:27.960 No, not at all. 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:31.360 It argues so you hear how those two AI voices 1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:35.560 sort of interact. Those are generated on the fly from 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:37.640 the information that you upload. So if you want to 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:41.280 try this in its simplest, easiest way, they've actually built 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:44.800 it into the Gemini app. So you can open up 1:02:44.800 --> 1:02:48.560 the Gemini app, upload a file anything like, anything that 1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:50.480 you want it to talk about, and then wait for 1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:55.480 it to say generate audio interview, generate audio overview, tap that, 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:57.960 and then it will create the little podcast that you 1:02:58.000 --> 1:03:00.360 can listen to. Of course, you can only go to 1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:04.680 NOTEBOOKLM dot Google dot com and the Android apps. There 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:07.240 are no apps right now. Android and iOS apps there 1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:10.120 are none right now. They're coming out on May twentieth, 1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:12.560 So don't start the app store for Notebook LM. Those 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.240 are not official all right. Rich on Tech dot tv 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:17.040 for all the links. More rich on Tech coming your 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:21.200 way right after this Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:24.800 Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at 1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:28.160 Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight at eight 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:31.040 seven four to two four one zero one. The website 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:34.960 for the show rich on Tech dot tv. You want 1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:39.720 to email me hit contact. Bruce writes in I'm glad 1:03:39.760 --> 1:03:42.600 you mentioned about the ghost styling. I'm glad you mentioned 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:48.520 the screenlock. Uh, it's he does think that it might 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:50.960 have been the screenlock. Okay, Actually, you know I'm not 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:53.520 gonna I gotta I gotta check these emails before I 1:03:53.560 --> 1:03:56.800 say I want to read them on the air. Might 1:03:56.840 --> 1:03:59.080 not have been that nice to our caller. Let's go 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:02.360 to Joe in Orange County. Joe, you're on with Wretch. 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:03.760 Hi. 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:06.560 Rick, I hope you can help me with this. 1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:07.320 Uh. 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:11.280 I made the mistake of donating one time, and ever 1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:15.560 since then, I got like thirty some emails a day, 1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:19.040 and I thought they would stop when the election was over, 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:22.720 but they continue right on it. It's like really bad harassments. 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:27.800 This morning, I got one before six am, and it's 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:32.400 just so annoying, you know, like they mentioned my name, Johanna. 1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:35.200 You know, Trump is talking about you and. 1:04:35.720 --> 1:04:39.160 All these dumb things now, so trying. 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:41.240 To get your money, and you know, they'll say, I'm 1:04:41.280 --> 1:04:42.640 not asking for money, I. 1:04:42.640 --> 1:04:43.720 Just want your opinion. 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:47.240 You're invited to mirror Lago. 1:04:47.040 --> 1:04:50.520 And I'm just crazy things and it's just you don't 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:53.840 want to go. I don't know how to get hold 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:57.120 of them, but I want them to stop, and I 1:04:57.160 --> 1:04:58.480 don't know how to stop them. 1:04:59.800 --> 1:05:02.400 A these texts are emails. You said email, but it 1:05:02.480 --> 1:05:06.920 sounds like these are texts. Okay, they're texts. Okay, all right, 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:09.960 Well here's the deal. So it's funny you say that 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:14.200 once you donated, because whenever I donate to charity, it's 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:17.520 really interesting because all of a sudden, what shows up 1:05:17.560 --> 1:05:21.560 in my mailbox, in my physical mailbox, is one hundred 1:05:21.640 --> 1:05:26.919 more solicitations for donations. And it's because I'm convinced these 1:05:27.120 --> 1:05:29.480 places sell your information saying, hey we got a hot 1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:32.160 one here, we got someone that's actually given money, let's 1:05:33.280 --> 1:05:37.560 spam them. So I think with regards to the text messaging, 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:39.160 there's a couple of things you can do. Number One, 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:44.160 if these are legitimate senders, okay, you should be able 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:48.000 to reply back with the word stop. Okay, So that 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.560 should be number one. Now, I don't know if these 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:53.240 are legitimate senders or not. It sounds like you are 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:57.120 on a combination of some political lists, but also maybe 1:05:57.200 --> 1:06:00.560 some unwanted lists as well. So I would the ones 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:04.480 that look legitimate, I would just try to reply with 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:07.960 the words stop, and that should get some of them 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:11.760 to stop. The other thing you can do is inside 1:06:11.800 --> 1:06:15.440 your app on if you're on iPhone or Android, depending 1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:17.840 on your app. So if you're on iPhone, there is 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:21.960 a setting if you go into your settings, okay and 1:06:21.960 --> 1:06:22.960 they change where this is. 1:06:23.040 --> 1:06:23.520 You have to go. 1:06:23.520 --> 1:06:26.800 Settings, scroll all the way down to where it says apps, 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:29.640 and then scroll all the way down to where it 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:31.040 says messages. 1:06:31.560 --> 1:06:34.120 I'm getting there right now here it is, and. 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:37.880 Then scroll all the way down until it says filter 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:43.480 unknown senders. Toggle that on. So anyone who is not 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:46.600 in your contacts will go in a separate list. And 1:06:46.640 --> 1:06:48.640 so now when you go back to your messages app, 1:06:49.120 --> 1:06:51.800 you will see you'll have this little filters and it 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:56.479 says all messages known senders, unknown senders, And that way 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.680 you can go into the unknown and it's all the 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:02.280 people that you don't know and it'll be a separate list. Okay, 1:07:02.840 --> 1:07:05.360 So that's that's one way to do it on the iPhone. 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:08.400 And then on Android, they've actually got some pretty good 1:07:08.560 --> 1:07:12.120 uh spam protection built in. So you can go into 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:17.120 your Android Messages, which is really Google Messages, tap your 1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:20.320 little icon in the upper right hand corner and it 1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:23.920 says Messages Settings, and then scroll down to where it 1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:29.040 says protection and safety and then enable spam protection. Toggle 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:33.040 that on, and that should help. And those are the 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.480 the only, the only real three ways that you can 1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:39.040 get rid of these messages that you're on, these you know, 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:43.120 political texts. There might be some other sort of ways. 1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:45.480 Let me see there's I thought there was a way 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:47.720 that you could send something. 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:48.479 Let's see here. 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:53.000 Uh yeah, I think that's really it is. Those are 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:56.800 the main ways to get off of those uh text messages. 1:07:56.920 --> 1:08:00.680 Is the legitimate ones will say stop and and the 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:03.760 non legitimate ones, yeah, there's not much you can do 1:08:03.760 --> 1:08:06.400 because they're not following the rules. So yeah, I would 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:08.960 say the call blocking stuff is probably the main way 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:11.560 to do it, or the text blocking is probably the 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:14.160 main way to do it. But I think the methods 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:16.840 I mentioned should probably cut down on some of the. 1:08:16.800 --> 1:08:19.840 Texts you get. But yeah, Joey, good luck, with that. 1:08:20.320 --> 1:08:22.400 I know these were a problem during the election, and 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:27.200 you know, any look text messages companies, they love it 1:08:27.320 --> 1:08:31.040 because we check our texts in a world of always on. 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:34.280 You know, emails can get lost in the shuffle. You know, 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:36.960 you get mail at your house, you know, maybe you'll 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:40.280 get you'll look at it. But text messages people get. 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:44.120 They are delivered immediately you pick up your phone to 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:44.720 look at them. 1:08:44.960 --> 1:08:46.280 They go to your wrist. 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:50.000 So giving out your phone number in the future, get 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:52.920 a different phone number, get like a Google Voice number, 1:08:54.040 --> 1:08:56.439 Get a Burner number. There's an app called Burner. You 1:08:56.439 --> 1:09:00.360 can get a secondary line. Your cell phone provides may 1:09:00.400 --> 1:09:02.519 give you a secondary line, and no T Mobile was 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:03.280 for a while with that. 1:09:03.360 --> 1:09:05.360 Digits Verizon. 1:09:05.360 --> 1:09:07.320 I think you can buy a secondary line from them 1:09:07.360 --> 1:09:10.040 for like ten dollars a month, but don't give out 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:12.240 your real phone number. When you were signing up for 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:14.960 lists and things. Give out your real phone number to 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:17.519 friends and family for the rest of the stuff. Get 1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:20.679 a secondary number, and you can get even a number 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.519 like a text Now number, so you can you can 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:25.600 sign up with them. The problem is you may not 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:27.080 get all the text from them, But I guess that's 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:29.720 a good thing right anyway, A couple ways to do it. 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:30.879 Xbox. 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:36.320 Microsoft is raising prices on the Xbox, Xbox consoles, controllers 1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:40.639 and headsets and games later. So first party Xbox games 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:44.480 you're gonna cost eighty bucks starting this holiday season. Microsoft 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:47.840 did not say the t word tariffs, but they did 1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:53.519 say rising development costs and market conditions. So the Xbox 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:56.160 series s used to be three hundred dollars now the 1:09:56.280 --> 1:10:01.120 suggested retail price three to eighty series this one terabyte 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:04.960 used to be three fifty now four thirty Digital four 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:09.040 fifty now five point fifty. Xbox Series X Standard used 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:11.320 to be five hundred, now six hundred. If you get 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:15.400 the top of the line two terabyte Galaxy Edition six 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:19.280 hundred now seven to twenty nine, So anywhere between eighty two, 1:10:19.560 --> 1:10:24.560 one hundred and thirty dollars. Price increase on the Xboxes. 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:28.240 So if you look online, a lot of the retailers 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:30.840 are still selling them at the old prices, So this 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:34.360 is not a These are suggested retail prices, which means 1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:37.680 you may or may not see that actually happen in 1:10:37.720 --> 1:10:40.479 the real world. Eighty eight rich one O one eight 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:43.160 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:46.839 coming up, I'll tell you the latest AI features on Gemini, 1:10:47.000 --> 1:10:50.839 Meta and Chat GPT. This is rich on Tech. Welcome 1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:53.360 back to rich on Tech. Rich tamiro here with you 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:58.840 for more tech news, tips, reviews, and your questions. That 1:10:59.000 --> 1:11:01.639 triple a rich one on one. That's eight eight eight 1:11:01.880 --> 1:11:04.759 seven four two four one zero one. Coming up this hour, 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:08.640 we're gonna talk uber lyft, delivery apps, robotaxis, all the 1:11:08.720 --> 1:11:11.920 latest in the gig economy with Harry Campbell, founder of 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:16.360 the Ride share Guy. And uh we'll get cheer calls 1:11:16.360 --> 1:11:18.120 in just a moment, but I want to give you 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:22.120 the AI updates this week. You know, these AI bots 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:23.800 are rapidly evolving. 1:11:24.479 --> 1:11:24.679 Uh. 1:11:24.720 --> 1:11:29.479 Here's what's new. Chat GBT now has shopping features. So 1:11:29.880 --> 1:11:33.160 open ai is adding shopping tools right into chat GBT, 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:35.320 which means you can browse and compare products. 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:36.200 Uh. 1:11:36.880 --> 1:11:40.320 All these recommendations are personalized based on your preferences, non 1:11:40.400 --> 1:11:44.639 sponsored reviews. UH pulls info from sites like Wired, Reddit 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:48.680 and other review platforms, not paid ads. Chat GBT says 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:52.280 are already doing over a billion web searches per week. 1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:55.360 They're just throwing out some fighting words against Google there 1:11:56.120 --> 1:11:57.799 and they know a lot of this stuff is focused 1:11:57.800 --> 1:12:01.000 on product research, So right now, this is very different 1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:04.800 from other search results you might get from something like 1:12:04.840 --> 1:12:07.800 a Google because a lot of that stuff is sponsored 1:12:08.000 --> 1:12:10.479 or it's kind of like nonsense, like top ten things 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:11.320 we love on Amazon. 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:12.400 Right now, what. 1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:16.640 Chatchybt is doing is they are using their understanding of 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:19.720 these reviews to sort of pull out and synthesize all 1:12:19.800 --> 1:12:22.920 the key features and things that reviewers are saying about 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:26.120 products to help you actually find stuff that fits your needs. 1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:29.800 So kind of cool, we'll see because right now they're 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:32.360 not making any money on this, but in the future 1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:36.599 they might experiment with ads or revenue models, affiliate revenue, whatever, 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:39.120 But right now they're just trying to make this excellent 1:12:39.160 --> 1:12:41.519 for the end user. And this is something we've seen 1:12:41.840 --> 1:12:44.880 in the tech world over and over and over all. 1:12:44.960 --> 1:12:48.519 These features start out with the customer in mind, and 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:51.320 then as time goes on and everyone starts using these things, 1:12:51.640 --> 1:12:55.639 they sort of start slowly but surely evolving and shifting 1:12:55.760 --> 1:13:00.360 to benefit the company, benefiting chatchybt. Because chatchybt's, hey, we're 1:13:00.360 --> 1:13:02.120 putting all this effort into this. What about us making 1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:04.439 money when someone buys a coffee maker? We should get 1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:06.960 a little percentage of that. Then they start, you know, 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:10.720 favoring different things. Anyway, if you're looking at shop for 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:14.040 stuff now you can ask chatch ebt for more shopping 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:19.120 details on items and comparing things. Meanwhile, Meta has launched 1:13:19.120 --> 1:13:24.320 their own standalone AI assistant app. It's basically a rival 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:27.760 to chatchbt. It's got voice, it's got image generation, it's 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:30.960 got web search. It's called Meta AI. You can download 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:33.920 it on iPhone and Android. The interesting thing that they've 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:36.840 built in is the discover feed. This looks like a 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:39.519 Facebook feed, but it's all about people posting how they've 1:13:39.600 --> 1:13:44.080 used AI with this Meta AI, so you can see 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:48.000 the graphics that they've generated or the answers they've gotten. 1:13:48.360 --> 1:13:50.880 Of course, it's all opt in, so it's not like 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:52.960 you're gonna people are gonna be seeing what you're doing 1:13:53.000 --> 1:13:56.560 on this app. You can choose to share something interesting 1:13:56.600 --> 1:14:00.640 with other people. There's also a voice mode, which I 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.800 tested out yesterday and it's actually very good. So if 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:06.679 you tried the voice mode on Chat, Gibt or Gemini, 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:10.000 Meta has its own metas ai is actually really good. 1:14:10.640 --> 1:14:13.120 It's just they forced it down our throat in all 1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:16.439 these different apps like Instagram and Facebook and WhatsApp, and 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:18.880 it's sort of left a bad taste in people's mouths 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:22.240 because it's like we're being forced to use this in 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:23.559 places we don't want to use it. 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:24.080 Now. 1:14:24.120 --> 1:14:24.400 I get it. 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:26.400 If you download the Meta AI app and you love it, 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:28.559 that's great. But the fact that when you search for 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:31.040 someone on Instagram and it immediately pops up all the 1:14:31.080 --> 1:14:33.439 AI stuff you're not looking for that, you're looking for 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:36.080 the person you're trying to look up. So I think 1:14:36.080 --> 1:14:38.960 that's where they went wrong with. You know, they have 1:14:39.000 --> 1:14:41.040 a very good AI product, but I think they went 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:45.080 very wrong in how they delivered it to people. So anyway, 1:14:45.200 --> 1:14:47.280 there you have it Meta AI if you want to 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:50.519 download it for iOS and Android. And then Gemini. This 1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:55.080 is Google's answer to chatchbt Gemini. They just added AI 1:14:55.280 --> 1:14:59.320 image editing and it's really good. It's the fastest AI 1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:02.240 image edit I've ever seen so far. So you can 1:15:02.360 --> 1:15:06.080 upload your own picture to Gemini, which is Gemini dot 1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:08.320 Google dot com or the Gemini app on your phone, 1:15:09.040 --> 1:15:11.000 and you can say what you want Gemini to do 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:12.960 to that picture. So, for instance, if you look at 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:16.040 my picture that I posted today of me doing the 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:18.559 radio show. You can check it out on my Instagram 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:21.479 at richon Tech on my stories. It's me with sort 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:24.200 of like a computer background behind me. So what I 1:15:24.200 --> 1:15:27.280 did was I just took a picture and I said, Gemini, 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:31.840 change the background to something techie, And in about ten 1:15:31.920 --> 1:15:35.640 seconds it changed it. It extracted my outline of me 1:15:36.200 --> 1:15:38.960 and put it over a new background, and you can, 1:15:39.000 --> 1:15:40.920 you know, I tried one thing where you can try. Ah, 1:15:41.240 --> 1:15:43.439 just take a picture of your street and say add 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:47.280 a dinosaur to this street, and it's really good. So 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:50.080 right now they are putting a little watermark. If you 1:15:50.120 --> 1:15:52.879 look in the lower right hand corner of my picture 1:15:52.960 --> 1:15:56.120 on Instagram, you'll see a little AI symbol, So they're 1:15:56.160 --> 1:15:59.600 experimenting with that where it's a visible AI marker. But 1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:02.680 then they're also putting in the actual metadata of the 1:16:02.720 --> 1:16:07.679 picture some AI identifiers so that other apps and different 1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:10.479 you know, the different apps that are looking at these 1:16:10.520 --> 1:16:13.000 photos on the back end can identify that that was 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:18.240 created with AI. Let's go to Mark in Montana. Mark, 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:18.960 you're on with Rich. 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:24.880 Hey have it gone Rich today? Yeah, I got a 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:28.880 question about my satellite TV I use. 1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:30.200 I use Addition. 1:16:30.000 --> 1:16:37.080 Network and I'm in really really real, Montana. I pay 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:40.600 a couple of hours extra for what they call local channels. 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:45.320 I don't like their local channels. I moved out here 1:16:45.840 --> 1:16:49.760 years ago from New York. Is there any way not 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:54.080 necessarily with the satellite, but even on a computer that 1:16:54.200 --> 1:17:01.160 I can access New York City broadcast channel, not just 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:02.439 the news but all day? 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:03.559 Uh? 1:17:03.880 --> 1:17:06.920 Yes, there's actually well okay, not okay, Yes and no. 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:10.880 I mean look, there's always ways of especially nowadays with 1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:12.200 all of the streaming apps. 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:14.280 Almost do you have do you have a good internet 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.679 connection or no? Yeah, okay. 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:20.840 So a lot of these streaming apps will allow you 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:26.000 to uh stream the channels live. And so if you 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:32.439 go and download like Pluto TV two b uh, let's 1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:33.320 see what's the other one? 1:17:33.760 --> 1:17:35.799 Zoomo zu m o peacock. 1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:40.120 So all of these these streaming services are now owned 1:17:40.200 --> 1:17:43.519 by the big companies, so pretty much all of the 1:17:43.680 --> 1:17:49.960 major networks, Fox, ABC, CBS, they are now putting a 1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:53.840 lot of their TV channels streaming live on these services. 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:55.760 So if you go to two B, you're gonna find 1:17:55.760 --> 1:17:57.320 a bunch of the I believe they're owned by Fox. 1:17:57.320 --> 1:18:00.200 You're gonna find a bunch of those Fox channels on there. 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:03.120 If you go to Pluto, they are owned by Viacom, 1:18:03.120 --> 1:18:05.519 you're gonna find a bunch of the CBS channels on there. 1:18:06.560 --> 1:18:10.160 NBC is owned by or Peacock is owned by NBC 1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:12.760 Universal Comcasts, so they are going to have a lot 1:18:12.840 --> 1:18:16.320 of those NBC channels. So you can really download these 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:20.280 apps to your TV and piece together those stations that 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:22.680 you want to watch. That's number one. And then some 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:26.000 of these stations might also have their own streaming apps 1:18:26.000 --> 1:18:28.520 as well. So for instance, in La, I work for KTLA, 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.280 they have their own streaming app where you can download 1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:33.080 that app and you can stream our news live all 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:34.240 day long anywhere you want. 1:18:34.280 --> 1:18:35.160 You don't have to be in La. 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.520 Same thing Picks eleven out of New York City, They've 1:18:38.560 --> 1:18:41.080 got their own streaming app and you can download that 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:43.519 and stream pix eleven, which is New York City News 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:46.679 twenty four to seven. So there are ways of sort 1:18:46.720 --> 1:18:50.160 of piecing this together in a freeway, but it just 1:18:50.280 --> 1:18:52.200 might take a couple of apps to download and a 1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:55.360 bunch of trial and error. Like you can see, like 1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:57.200 if you have a station that you want to watch, 1:18:57.840 --> 1:19:01.280 like let's say you wanted to watch WABC, see in 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:03.720 New York. You can just you know, maybe Google to 1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:08.160 see where they are streaming live. So it all depends on, 1:19:08.560 --> 1:19:12.519 you know, the system. So they're they're ABC, and so 1:19:12.560 --> 1:19:15.040 I'm trying to see if they have they've got a 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:17.479 live stream on ABC, So you might have to download 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:22.280 like the Hulu and you know, because Hulu is is 1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:25.639 apparently associated with ABC, I guess, uh, so you can 1:19:25.680 --> 1:19:28.400 download that and maybe get that channel. The other thing, 1:19:28.439 --> 1:19:30.560 and I mentioned this in my newsletter at rich on 1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:33.160 tech dot tv last week, there's this website called TV 1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:38.360 Garden TV dot Garden, and if you go on there, 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:44.320 you can basically find TV stations live from all over 1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:45.880 the world. And this is not a great They're not 1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:48.880 like this is not like a legal site. I mean, 1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:50.720 there's plenty of those out there. I'm not going to 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:52.400 mention them here on the air, but this one is 1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:57.040 basically playing by the rules, and it's just finding all 1:19:57.200 --> 1:20:00.320 of the live streams that are available online that are 1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:03.800 free and open and available to everyone, and then organizing 1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:06.840 them so you can find live streams from almost every 1:20:06.880 --> 1:20:10.160 country in the world. I mean, it's just wild TV 1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:13.560 dot Garden. If you want to watch live TV in Finland. 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:16.240 I just pulled that up. And if you have a 1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:18.880 specific channel you want to watch, so let's just say 1:20:19.680 --> 1:20:24.519 we wanted to watch the WABC in New York, all right, 1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:27.080 don't see that one on there. But again, you can 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:29.040 just search for those channels as well. You can browse, 1:20:29.080 --> 1:20:30.840 but they have a ton I've never seen so many 1:20:30.920 --> 1:20:33.400 channels in one place, and it's very well done. Websites 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:35.680 clean as far as I can tell. There's not a 1:20:35.720 --> 1:20:38.759 ton of ads on there. So you can search United 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:41.080 States and they've got just a whole bunch they've got. 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:43.840 I mean, I'm looking at the ABC affiliates they have here, 1:20:43.880 --> 1:20:47.840 just so many local affiliates here. But I think that's 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:48.960 probably the best way to do it. 1:20:49.000 --> 1:20:49.240 Mark. 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:52.120 You may find that you can cancel your dish network 1:20:52.200 --> 1:20:56.639 altogether once you get on these streaming apps. It's everything, 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.320 it's all the rules are being rewritten right now, right 1:20:59.360 --> 1:21:02.480 when it comes to broadcast and streaming, and so everyone's 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:06.639 trying things in slightly different ways. But if you look 1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:08.800 hard enough, you can probably find a lot of what 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:12.080 you want to get through these services. Just depends how 1:21:12.080 --> 1:21:13.920 they're doing it. All right, good question, Mark, Thanks for 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:16.000 calling today in Montana. I got to make my way 1:21:16.000 --> 1:21:19.320 out there one day. I've never been, but big sky country, 1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:21.439 I just want to. I remember as a kid one 1:21:21.439 --> 1:21:24.920 time being in the woods upstate New York, Lake George, 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:28.680 where I grew up, going and just looking up at 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:31.960 the sky one time, and the entire sky was filled 1:21:32.000 --> 1:21:34.639 with stars, like I'd never seen more stars in my life. 1:21:35.000 --> 1:21:37.600 And I've been wanting to recreate that moment in my 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:40.320 adult life, and I think like Montana. 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:40.920 Might be the place to do it. 1:21:41.320 --> 1:21:43.679 Eighty eight rich one O one eighty eight seven four 1:21:43.720 --> 1:21:46.080 two four one zero one more rich On Tech right 1:21:46.120 --> 1:21:49.400 after this, Welcome back to rich On Tech. All right, 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:55.000 now we'll get to uh Bruce and Pacific Grove. Bruce 1:21:55.040 --> 1:21:58.280 wrote in about the ghost styling caller we had earlier. 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:02.479 Woman called in said that her phone, her iPhone, was 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:06.960 dialing people all the time, her daughter, other folks, and 1:22:07.120 --> 1:22:10.920 through no intervention of her own, Like the phone was 1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:14.280 just sitting there and it would just dial people. And 1:22:14.320 --> 1:22:16.280 she said it was the last three phones she's had, 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:19.679 which is pretty wild. Anyway, I give her a couple 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:22.560 of options. Bruce and Pacific Grove rites, and I was 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:25.000 so glad you mentioned the screenlock. I bet she won't 1:22:25.000 --> 1:22:27.760 set it to thirty seconds because one of her kids 1:22:27.760 --> 1:22:29.960 probably changed it years ago and she's used to it 1:22:30.000 --> 1:22:34.160 staying on. She might also not have password protection either. Yeah, 1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:36.559 those are two things I've noticed. Some people do not 1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:39.320 put password protection on their phone, and they also set 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:42.000 their screenlock to be way longer than it should be 1:22:42.280 --> 1:22:45.599 by the way, that burns up your battery too. Bruce says, 1:22:45.760 --> 1:22:49.160 a case really is important. A portfolio style case that 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:52.439 closes can help stop these kinds of issues. Sweat, certain 1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:55.439 fabrics or even just movement can accidentally activate the screen. 1:22:55.840 --> 1:22:58.480 I tell people to try wrapping their phone in newspaper 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.599 for a week. Most of the time the ghost dialing stops. 1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:04.679 For folks who don't like a screen lock or a password, 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:07.200 a physical fix like a closing case is often the 1:23:07.200 --> 1:23:09.920 best solution. Now, I can't be on the radio here 1:23:09.920 --> 1:23:12.479 and tell you not to have a password on your 1:23:12.520 --> 1:23:15.599 phone or a passcode, because that is in this day 1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:19.880 and age. Your phone holds everything. So if you don't 1:23:19.920 --> 1:23:22.040 have a passcode, you got to get one on your phone. 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:25.840 Use face ID, use the fingerprint, use a passcode. You 1:23:25.960 --> 1:23:28.320 absolutely must have one on there because there is no 1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:29.280 excuse at this point. 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:30.799 Thanks for the email, Bruce. 1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:35.320 Let's go to Kermer in Sun City. 1:23:35.560 --> 1:23:36.320 You're on with Rich. 1:23:38.560 --> 1:23:44.439 Hello, Rich, Yeah, Hi, oh you Okay, what happened is 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:45.880 I bought. 1:23:46.080 --> 1:23:50.839 A not bout but I got a router from a 1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:54.479 new router from a Horizon Look. And I've been trying 1:23:54.520 --> 1:23:59.439 to download the the Wi Fi to my phone, my 1:23:59.479 --> 1:24:02.880 wife's phone and to my phone, and uh, but it's not. 1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:06.599 Every time I put the the password in and it 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:09.479 goes in, it says no Internet. But I'm not having 1:24:09.560 --> 1:24:13.679 problems with that. When I loaded the wireless uh wify 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:17.599 to the printer, to the to both of my printers 1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:22.439 and to my computer and uh and and so it's 1:24:22.479 --> 1:24:24.760 not allowed me to be able to get on to 1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:29.760 my am I Alexa, nor am I uh any of 1:24:29.880 --> 1:24:31.400 my electronics. 1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:34.920 Okay, Uh it's so are these phones a little bit older? 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:39.960 As a matter of fact, both of my I fifteen. 1:24:40.080 --> 1:24:45.519 Really interesting Okay, Well, Typically when there are issues with 1:24:45.720 --> 1:24:49.160 Internet connections like this, and some devices are connecting, some 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:54.160 devices are not, it's usually a matter of the network 1:24:54.200 --> 1:24:56.720 that you're using, whether it's two point four gigaherts or 1:24:56.880 --> 1:25:02.120 five gigaherts, and so I'm guessing that this router is 1:25:02.200 --> 1:25:05.200 set up to either have one network or the other 1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:08.760 and not both, because the fact that the printer is 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:11.519 connecting that tells me that it might be using the 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:13.280 older network. Is this an older printer? 1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:19.160 No, they they're they're pretty pretty new printers. 1:25:19.200 --> 1:25:19.519 All right. 1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:22.960 Well, Kermer, sounds like you've got everything new, which I like. Okay, 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:27.200 So is this one of those Verizon like hotspot kind 1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:30.440 of things like the home Internet or is it a Verizon. 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:32.400 Like files Okay? 1:25:32.880 --> 1:25:36.200 So if you this is just a suggestion, but have 1:25:36.360 --> 1:25:39.680 you looked at the internet the Wi Fi settings on 1:25:39.800 --> 1:25:43.479 the device itself, Like, have you gone into the settings? 1:25:44.280 --> 1:25:47.800 Yes, I've gone into the setting this way, I start, 1:25:47.240 --> 1:25:49.439 and then what if I get through them and I 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:53.800 put in the you know, the the carrier's name okay, 1:25:53.960 --> 1:25:55.360 and the passwords? 1:25:55.520 --> 1:25:55.840 Okay? 1:25:56.439 --> 1:25:58.880 So I think again, that's at that point that it 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:01.120 goes through the Okay. 1:26:01.160 --> 1:26:02.200 Now here's my other question. 1:26:02.400 --> 1:26:05.160 Is this a network username and password you've been using 1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:07.599 in the past, No. 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:09.599 It's not, okay. As a matter of fact, is it's 1:26:09.640 --> 1:26:10.439 new with the router? 1:26:10.600 --> 1:26:11.800 It is new with the router? Okay? 1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:14.800 Uh, well, all this sounds very mysterious to me. But 1:26:14.880 --> 1:26:16.800 what I would do is on the bottom of that 1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:22.200 router there is some instructions on how to access these 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:25.439 settings of that actual router. So if you if you 1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:28.040 flip that router over, there's usually like a code on 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:30.160 there that's like one nine eight dot or one nine 1:26:30.240 --> 1:26:34.200 two one six eight something like that, and you can 1:26:34.240 --> 1:26:36.920 type that in from your web browser. You might want 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:40.679 to connect to this broute this uh, this router manually, 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:43.400 like connect it with a cable from your computer, because 1:26:44.360 --> 1:26:46.439 if you're doing any changes to the Wi Fi, you 1:26:46.520 --> 1:26:49.400 will lose that Wi Fi connection during the changes. So 1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:52.559 it's probably best to plug into this thing. But then 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:55.400 you're gonna log in and it's gonna give you all 1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:58.720 of the settings for that Verizon router, sort of the 1:26:58.760 --> 1:27:02.280 back end settings. It's going to tell you which networks 1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:04.640 it's broadcasting on. You're gonna be able to change the 1:27:04.720 --> 1:27:09.360 channel that it's broadcasting on, the Wi Fi network, name, password, 1:27:09.439 --> 1:27:11.559 all that good stuff. I'm guessing you're just using the 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:14.479 default Wi Fi name and password. I would just take 1:27:14.479 --> 1:27:17.880 a look at those settings and see if there's anything 1:27:17.920 --> 1:27:22.200 in there that says compatibility mode or maximum compatibility or 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:25.400 two point four versus five gigahertz, and if it gives 1:27:25.400 --> 1:27:30.479 you the option to have both networks, what's that versus that? Yeah, 1:27:30.520 --> 1:27:33.599 because that's usually where these problems happen. I mean, it's 1:27:33.680 --> 1:27:36.000 very strange. So when Verizon this is sort of a 1:27:36.000 --> 1:27:38.080 self install, Huh, they didn't come to your house to 1:27:38.240 --> 1:27:38.720 help you with this. 1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:40.680 Yeah, So that's the problem there. 1:27:40.720 --> 1:27:45.000 These companies are doing these self installs where I'm wondering. 1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:47.559 The other thing you might do before you try anything 1:27:47.760 --> 1:27:51.479 is just find the reset button on this router and 1:27:51.520 --> 1:27:53.760 press and hold it in and reset it back to 1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:57.400 factory and see if that helps and reconnect your devices. 1:27:58.120 --> 1:28:00.400 I would do that before you kind of mess with 1:28:00.439 --> 1:28:03.720 any of these settings, because you know these settings you 1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:05.599 can change if you know what you're doing, But if 1:28:05.600 --> 1:28:07.320 you don't know what you're doing, you could mess some 1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:10.240 stuff up and then next thing you know, nothing's gonna connect. 1:28:10.479 --> 1:28:12.800 So I might just press the reset button on there, 1:28:13.240 --> 1:28:15.519 get it all back to factory, see if your stuff connects. 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:17.679 If it doesn't, then delve into those settings. 1:28:17.760 --> 1:28:20.120 But you might have to have someone from Verizon guide 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:23.759 you through this, because those devices should absolutely be connecting 1:28:24.280 --> 1:28:24.599 all right. 1:28:24.640 --> 1:28:26.040 Coming up next we're gonna talk to. 1:28:26.000 --> 1:28:29.519 Harry Campbell, founder of the Ride Share Guy, right here 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:33.760 on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. 1:28:33.880 --> 1:28:37.400 Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology. The 1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:40.560 website for the show richon Tech dot TV. If you 1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:44.080 heard me mention something over the past couple of hours 1:28:44.240 --> 1:28:47.240 or minutes, whatever, go to the website rich on Tech 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:50.120 dot tv. It is all right there. This is episode 1:28:50.240 --> 1:28:53.639 one nineteen. I take great show notes. Everything is linked 1:28:53.720 --> 1:28:56.799 up right there. Joining me now is Harry Campbell, founder 1:28:56.840 --> 1:28:59.400 of the Ride Share Guy, to break down the latest 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:01.840 in this world of the gig economy. 1:29:02.080 --> 1:29:04.880 Harry, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me on 1:29:05.000 --> 1:29:07.559 rich So tell me about. 1:29:07.320 --> 1:29:09.240 The Ride Share Guy. Where did that come from? Why 1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:10.519 did you start covering this stuff? 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:11.479 Yeah? 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:14.599 I actually started driving for both Uber and Lyft about 1:29:14.640 --> 1:29:17.920 eleven years ago now, so it's been a while, but 1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:19.599 I was actually I used to work a full time 1:29:19.640 --> 1:29:22.080 as an aerospace engineer for Boeing and had a few 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:24.320 side hustles, and driving for Uber and Lyft was one 1:29:24.320 --> 1:29:26.960 of them. So enjoyed it a ton and pretty quickly 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:30.040 realized that you know, there really isn't a boss, which 1:29:30.080 --> 1:29:31.799 is great, but there's also not a lot of training, 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:34.040 there's not a lot of community. So that's what we 1:29:34.080 --> 1:29:36.120 went out to create with the ride share guys. So 1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:38.160 we have a ton of content on YouTube and social 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:42.080 media and website and articles that basically helps drivers make 1:29:42.120 --> 1:29:45.880 more money. Interviews with drivers, interviews with folks at the company, 1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:49.240 basically anything Uber and Lyft driving. You'll find us on 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:51.479 some box on the internet now these days talking about it. 1:29:51.760 --> 1:29:55.160 So the rideshare guide dot com, that's where it's all there. 1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:59.000 You've got your newsletter, you've got your YouTube channel. I mean, 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:00.880 you're pretty active on all all this stuff. So you've 1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:05.080 watched this world evolve. But here's the thing. The biggest 1:30:05.120 --> 1:30:08.639 evolution right now is the companies that built this business 1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:11.479 are now trying to edge out all the folks that 1:30:11.600 --> 1:30:13.680 drive for them by making robotaxis. 1:30:15.560 --> 1:30:17.919 Yeah, so you know, if you're here in Los Angeles 1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:21.519 or San Francisco, Phoenix, Austin, you may have seen waimos 1:30:21.560 --> 1:30:23.800 on the road. So the company just announced that they're 1:30:23.800 --> 1:30:26.120 doing two hundred and fifty thousand tricks per week in 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:29.520 those four cities. So you know, honestly, it's still they 1:30:29.600 --> 1:30:32.000 might seem like they're prevalent, but they are still a 1:30:32.040 --> 1:30:36.040 pretty small percentage. I mean, Uber alone does millions of 1:30:36.120 --> 1:30:38.400 rides a day in the United States, and that's per day, 1:30:38.439 --> 1:30:40.720 while weymo's doing two undred fifty thousand per week in 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:44.160 four cities. So it's still a very small percentage overall. 1:30:44.200 --> 1:30:46.599 But it is an interesting time for drivers because obviously, 1:30:46.600 --> 1:30:48.920 as you mentioned, you know, they've been kind of the 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:52.000 main workhorse Uber for the past ten to eleven years. 1:30:52.000 --> 1:30:54.840 And now, as you might imagine, drive human drivers are 1:30:54.840 --> 1:30:58.160 not big fans they might you know, that's putting it gently. 1:30:58.160 --> 1:31:00.439 They're not big fans of avs, and so, you know, 1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:01.880 you see them on the roads and you see the 1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:04.519 companies sort of celebrating av So I think it's kind 1:31:04.560 --> 1:31:07.760 of a tough feeling for drivers. But at the same time, 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:10.439 I don't think avs are having a big negative impact 1:31:10.479 --> 1:31:11.559 on their earnings just yet. 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:17.280 Av Autonomous vehicle, Yeah, autonomous vehicles. So we know Weimo 1:31:17.400 --> 1:31:19.600 is owned by Google, so or Alphabet, which is the 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:23.680 same company as Google. Are Uber and Lyft also dabbling 1:31:23.800 --> 1:31:24.679 in self driving. 1:31:25.960 --> 1:31:29.280 So Uber and Lyft don't own any self driving companies, 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:32.479 but they have partnered with a number of companies so 1:31:32.600 --> 1:31:35.080 Uber for example, I think they're partnered with sixteen or 1:31:35.120 --> 1:31:39.679 seventeen different autonomous vehicle companies from everything from doing rides 1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:43.559 to food delivery and delivery robots and delivery vehicles that 1:31:43.640 --> 1:31:46.400 are autonomous. So Uber is doing a lot. Lift is 1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:50.360 also partnered with a company called May Mobility. Uber is 1:31:50.400 --> 1:31:52.840 also partnered with and then the big partnership that Uber 1:31:52.920 --> 1:31:55.880 has on the autonomous vehicle site is with Weimo. So 1:31:55.960 --> 1:31:59.320 in Austin, for example, you can only call a weimo 1:31:59.479 --> 1:32:01.880 on Uber. The product is called Weimo on Uber. So 1:32:01.920 --> 1:32:03.400 if you want a Weaimo and you're in Austin, you 1:32:03.439 --> 1:32:05.679 have to be on the Uber app and opt into 1:32:05.720 --> 1:32:09.160 getting waymo's and then you can get a Weimo that 1:32:09.200 --> 1:32:12.160 way if there's one available, versus somewhere like Los Angeles, 1:32:12.240 --> 1:32:14.679 where the only way to get one in Los Angeles 1:32:14.760 --> 1:32:15.960 is through the weimo app. 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:19.559 So what's it like to catch a ride in a Weaimo. 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:24.720 You've taken these things, you know, as a very recently Huh. 1:32:23.840 --> 1:32:26.240 Yeah, I mean I've probably taken a couple dozen rides 1:32:26.240 --> 1:32:28.880 in Los Angeles and San Francisco now over the past 1:32:28.920 --> 1:32:31.680 six to twelve months. And you know, honestly, if I 1:32:31.720 --> 1:32:34.000 put my customer hat on, you know, from the rideshare 1:32:34.040 --> 1:32:36.559 guy perspective, we may not be big fans of Waimo's, 1:32:36.600 --> 1:32:38.960 but if I put my normal customer hat on, I'm 1:32:38.960 --> 1:32:40.960 a big fan of Weimo. It's really it is a 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:43.320 great product. You're sitting in the back of a seventy 1:32:43.360 --> 1:32:45.720 five thousand dollars Jaguar, so right off the bat, it's 1:32:45.720 --> 1:32:48.320 a pretty nice car. And then the Weaimo driver, as 1:32:48.320 --> 1:32:50.000 they like to call it, I think, is pretty good. 1:32:50.000 --> 1:32:50.759 It's pretty smooth. 1:32:50.760 --> 1:32:50.880 You know. 1:32:50.920 --> 1:32:53.240 I took my wife in one out to dinner, and 1:32:53.520 --> 1:32:55.080 you know, she was a little nervous at first, but 1:32:55.120 --> 1:32:57.600 probably by the end of ten fifteen minutes, she was 1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:01.080 pretty comfortable. Just the other night, I took probably my 1:33:01.200 --> 1:33:03.840 longest WAYMO yet. I took a seventy five minute Waimo 1:33:04.000 --> 1:33:07.120 during rush hour traffic from my house in Beverly Wood 1:33:07.160 --> 1:33:11.799 all the way to Intuit Dome to watch Clippers win games. 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:15.200 Game what was that game five? Game six? So that 1:33:15.280 --> 1:33:17.320 was the longest ride. Yeah, Game six, that was the 1:33:17.360 --> 1:33:20.320 longest ride I've taken so far, and this was very 1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:22.080 heavy rush hour. You know, the folks that are in 1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:25.640 Los Angeles. They know driving south at five PM is 1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:28.720 pretty tough, and you know, I was play. I feel 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:31.320 like the Waimo driver has actually gotten a lot better. 1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:33.360 It's still very safe. There were a couple of yellow 1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:35.960 lights where it actually if a human was driving, I 1:33:35.960 --> 1:33:37.840 think they probably would I probably would have gone through, 1:33:37.920 --> 1:33:40.160 to be honest, but the Waimo stops. And then there 1:33:40.160 --> 1:33:42.400 are a couple of times where they're making an unprotected 1:33:42.479 --> 1:33:45.439 left turn where it didn't wait too passively. It was 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:47.519 sort of a good mix where it kind of edged 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:49.519 out and when it saw a little bit of an opening, 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:51.240 it went. But if it would have been too passive, 1:33:51.280 --> 1:33:53.000 we would have never been able to make the left turn. 1:33:53.200 --> 1:33:55.720 So I was kind of impressed over that seventy five 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:56.360 minute period. 1:33:56.640 --> 1:33:59.559 So I was driving back from a shoot in Venice 1:33:59.560 --> 1:34:02.519 the other day and there was a Weimo. You know, 1:34:02.560 --> 1:34:04.840 these weymos are all over kind of the west side 1:34:04.880 --> 1:34:07.680 of Los Angeles, and I was coming out of an 1:34:07.680 --> 1:34:10.840 alleyway and there's two waymos, and I realized the thing 1:34:10.880 --> 1:34:13.160 I couldn't do. I kept waving the weimo to go. 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:15.719 I was like go, Like that was just my human instinct, 1:34:16.080 --> 1:34:18.200 and I realized I was like, wait, And I wondered 1:34:18.240 --> 1:34:20.639 for a bit if Weaimo has built this into their 1:34:20.640 --> 1:34:23.519 camera system to identify when a human is saying like 1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:25.960 go ahead, go ahead, which you know, any other human 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:29.080 would recognize, but if Waimo is listening, they need to 1:34:29.120 --> 1:34:30.840 do that. Because I kept waving this thing and it 1:34:30.880 --> 1:34:33.639 was just it was like a Wild West standoff because 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:35.519 I couldn't make the left, it wouldn't go ahead of 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:38.519 me because it was all very congested. So I thought 1:34:38.560 --> 1:34:40.600 that was pretty ironic. People are cracking up there like 1:34:40.640 --> 1:34:42.760 this is a standoff with these vehicles. 1:34:43.520 --> 1:34:47.040 Yeah, so definitely, the waymos aren't perfect yet, and I'm 1:34:47.040 --> 1:34:50.759 not sure if the waymos can react to human gestures. 1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:52.519 It sounds like maybe they can't. And you know, this 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:54.240 is one thing I noticed on my long ride the 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:56.439 other night is that there were a couple of times where, 1:34:56.479 --> 1:34:58.240 you know, it was pretty heavy traffic and I almost 1:34:58.640 --> 1:35:00.960 I almost rolled down my window and started waving to 1:35:01.000 --> 1:35:03.000 people to let us in, you know, because I think 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:05.519 there is I do think they need to build upon, 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:08.240 you know, that sort of human gestures or you know, 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:11.800 the waving or letting people in. And so I still 1:35:11.960 --> 1:35:14.639 think that there's some I wouldn't call them safety kinks, 1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:18.160 but sort of like human behavioral driving kinks that they 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:20.400 need to work out that I think, honestly, are going 1:35:20.479 --> 1:35:21.880 to be a little bit tricky. And I think the 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:24.599 other thing too that you know, honestly, I see when 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:27.000 I'm out there driving, I feel like, since it's not 1:35:27.160 --> 1:35:29.280 an actual human driver, I might I'm not as friendly 1:35:29.280 --> 1:35:30.600 to them. I might not let them in front of me, 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:31.720 or you know, I might try to go in front 1:35:31.720 --> 1:35:33.200 of them. And I know a lot of folks have 1:35:33.280 --> 1:35:36.160 commented that to me also, and I'm not afraid to 1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:37.679 admit it, but I think, you know, maybe we won't 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:39.120 treat them the same as a human driver. 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:41.840 Yeah, that's an interesting aspect. How do you think the 1:35:42.360 --> 1:35:47.400 Waimo driver, the auto driver compares to the Tesla Tesla autopilot, 1:35:47.479 --> 1:35:50.599 which I feel like has gotten much much better in 1:35:50.680 --> 1:35:51.880 recent months. 1:35:52.439 --> 1:35:55.640 Yeah. Well, luckily, I've owned a Tesla for quite a 1:35:55.640 --> 1:35:58.160 few years now, and I subscribe to the monthly full 1:35:58.200 --> 1:36:03.000 self driving product, which you know isn't as good as 1:36:03.000 --> 1:36:05.280 way Mo's because you know, in my opinion, I guess 1:36:05.280 --> 1:36:07.880 you would say, but I do think that it has 1:36:07.920 --> 1:36:09.479 gotten a lot better, and you know, I've been thinking 1:36:09.520 --> 1:36:12.080 about getting a new car lately, and honestly, I don't 1:36:12.120 --> 1:36:13.920 know if I could leave Tesla. Once you get used 1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:15.960 to that full self driving, you know, just around town, 1:36:16.120 --> 1:36:18.439 driving the Mammoth, driving the Vegas from La, you know, 1:36:18.479 --> 1:36:21.120 four or five hours, it's quite nice to just be 1:36:21.120 --> 1:36:23.040 able to put the full self driving mode on and 1:36:23.280 --> 1:36:25.400 take phone calls or listen to a podcast. And I 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:27.400 think you kind of Even My wife has a nice 1:36:27.479 --> 1:36:30.360 luxury car, and when I'm in her car, you know, 1:36:30.439 --> 1:36:34.200 the the cruise of the adaptive cruise control and the similar. 1:36:34.360 --> 1:36:36.600 You know, Tesla teachers are not even close. You know, 1:36:36.640 --> 1:36:39.040 it'll pop out of a lane and it's really not 1:36:39.160 --> 1:36:42.200 nearly as good. So I do think that Tesla, you know, 1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:44.439 they're they're making a lot of noise about maybe launching 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:47.320 a robo taxi service, But I don't think I personally 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:49.439 would sit in the back of one yet, but you know, 1:36:49.479 --> 1:36:50.280 they might be close. 1:36:51.439 --> 1:36:55.320 Let's kind of shift gears to some of this Uber 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:58.200 and Lyft. Is it still a good time to start 1:36:58.280 --> 1:37:02.360 driving for these companies, even though we're looking at this 1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:04.040 robotaxi future. 1:37:04.920 --> 1:37:07.240 Yeah, well, you know, like I said earlier, I mean, 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:09.479 we did a poll on our YouTube channel, and thirty 1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:12.719 percent of drivers human drivers actually said they're extremely worried 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:15.400 about av So it's definitely a top issue for drivers 1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:18.160 out there. But what I will say is the impact 1:37:18.160 --> 1:37:20.800 on earnings has been pretty minimal so far. There's a 1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:24.000 couple data companies. One that comes to mind called grid Wise. 1:37:24.040 --> 1:37:25.920 They released a report saying that it was still less 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:28.760 than five percent. You know, driver's earnings aren't off by 1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:31.280 more than a few percent, so I and that's sort 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:33.639 of what we're hearing from drivers to Even though it does, 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:35.840 you know, it's not great because it's more competition, more 1:37:35.960 --> 1:37:39.880 robo competition. I still think the actual earnings profile and 1:37:39.920 --> 1:37:42.639 how much you can make and what the experience as 1:37:42.640 --> 1:37:45.240 a driver is like hasn't changed. And you know, I 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:46.960 guess I'm a little biased because I have a whole 1:37:47.080 --> 1:37:49.760 website and business dedicated to driving and working in the 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:53.240 gig economy. But I think it's always a great time 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:56.240 for anyone and everyone, just because of the flexibility and 1:37:56.320 --> 1:37:58.120 the quick access. I mean, I don't think a lot 1:37:58.120 --> 1:38:00.920 of people even know that you can be approved to 1:38:01.000 --> 1:38:03.439 deliver food with Uber Eats or DoorDash in a day 1:38:03.560 --> 1:38:05.400 or two or less, you can be approved to go 1:38:05.439 --> 1:38:08.040 out and drive people in a few days. All of 1:38:08.080 --> 1:38:10.160 the companies now have a product where you go out 1:38:10.200 --> 1:38:12.759 and drive and after every single trip you can actually 1:38:12.800 --> 1:38:15.080 cash out the money instantly to your bank account. So 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:17.200 if you need one hundred dollars tomorrow to drive, you 1:38:17.200 --> 1:38:19.840 could go sign up to you know, deliver with Uber Eats, 1:38:19.880 --> 1:38:23.040 be approved by tomorrow morning, work four or five hours, 1:38:23.120 --> 1:38:26.000 and then have that money basically in your bank account 1:38:26.040 --> 1:38:27.519 at the end of your shift. So I think that 1:38:27.560 --> 1:38:30.640 flexibility and kind of quick access. You know, obviously, like 1:38:30.760 --> 1:38:33.400 any job, there are complaints and positives and negatives, but 1:38:33.680 --> 1:38:36.439 I do think that flexibility is really quite unmatched in 1:38:36.720 --> 1:38:38.920 you know, comparative areas of work. 1:38:39.160 --> 1:38:41.439 I mean, it's interesting here in La people came to 1:38:41.520 --> 1:38:44.439 town to be actors and they would you know, wait tables. 1:38:44.520 --> 1:38:47.440 And with this gig economy, I mean it's quite incredible 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.840 that you can be your own boss on your own time. 1:38:50.479 --> 1:38:53.920 That is a major paradigm shift for the entire world. 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:56.360 Now by the way people are becoming influencers and things, 1:38:56.360 --> 1:38:57.880 and maybe the don't want to be actors anymore, but 1:38:58.240 --> 1:39:00.920 it's still the world that this is creative for people 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:05.240 to make money on their time and flexibility is quite 1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:07.880 incredible to me. Is one of these better than the other? 1:39:08.040 --> 1:39:11.679 Final word, Uber lift. Any advantage to going with either 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:14.680 one or the other for as a consumer or a driver. 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:17.720 Well, I'd say for a driver, I mean Uber is 1:39:17.720 --> 1:39:20.759 typically busier, so you'll make more money. But we always 1:39:20.800 --> 1:39:23.480 recommend to drivers that they sign up for both services, 1:39:23.479 --> 1:39:25.920 so Uber and Lyft or door dash and Uber eats, 1:39:26.040 --> 1:39:28.160 just because there's a big advantage if you have both 1:39:28.160 --> 1:39:30.000 at if it's slow, you can turn both apps on 1:39:30.080 --> 1:39:31.559 and get a ride. And that's kind of what we 1:39:31.600 --> 1:39:33.919 tell customers too. You know, a lot of people default 1:39:33.920 --> 1:39:35.800 to Uber, but I mean a lot of times. Now 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:38.400 I'm comparing Uber, Lyft, and weimo here in Los Angeles 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:39.720 to see where I can get the best bang for 1:39:39.840 --> 1:39:42.439 my bucks. So it only takes a few seconds, and 1:39:43.120 --> 1:39:44.559 you know, you can kind of save a lot or 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:46.320 maybe earn a little extra as a driver if you 1:39:46.439 --> 1:39:48.320 kind of go with that multi app strategy. 1:39:48.760 --> 1:39:53.080 All right, Harry Campbell, the rideshare guy dot com, how's 1:39:53.080 --> 1:39:55.000 the newsletter going good? 1:39:55.080 --> 1:39:57.639 Yeah, We've got a new newsletter called the Driver List Digest. 1:39:57.640 --> 1:40:00.160 So that's sort of where we're covering all things autonomy 1:40:00.439 --> 1:40:03.800 and ride share and you know, trying to stay up 1:40:03.840 --> 1:40:05.960 to date in all the latest with Wimo and other 1:40:06.000 --> 1:40:08.439 companies like Zooks. So it's definitely a lot a lot 1:40:08.479 --> 1:40:09.960 going on in an exciting time. 1:40:10.120 --> 1:40:12.519 All right, this was an exciting conversation. Thanks for joining 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:15.400 me today. I really appreciate it. Thanks rich all right, 1:40:15.680 --> 1:40:18.320 coming up, we're gonna get through a couple more news items, 1:40:18.439 --> 1:40:22.040 including the new eyeball scanning ID system from the guy 1:40:22.040 --> 1:40:24.640 who started chat GBT. Plus we're going to open up 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:28.320 the feedbag coming up on rich on Tech. Welcome back 1:40:28.320 --> 1:40:31.439 to rich On Tech. A couple of headlines to get 1:40:31.439 --> 1:40:36.120 through before we open up the feedbag. This is an 1:40:36.200 --> 1:40:40.280 interesting one. Sam Altman, you know him from chat ebt. 1:40:40.520 --> 1:40:43.920 He's one of the founders there of open ai, and 1:40:44.200 --> 1:40:49.439 he has a new identity platform called world formerly world Coin, 1:40:49.640 --> 1:40:52.240 and it's rolling out. It uses a device called an 1:40:52.360 --> 1:40:56.960 orb to scan your eyeball and basically register your iris 1:40:57.520 --> 1:40:59.639 and then make sure you're a human not a bot. 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:02.479 So they've got these scanners in various places around the 1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:07.439 nation Atlanta, Austin, La Miami, Nashville, San Francisco, and then 1:41:07.479 --> 1:41:12.160 some Razor retail stores, and it's basically a verification process 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:15.160 for the twenty first century. So it's to make sure 1:41:15.160 --> 1:41:17.519 that you are a human and not a bot when 1:41:17.560 --> 1:41:20.360 you're interacting with people both online and in real life. 1:41:20.400 --> 1:41:23.720 They came out with this little device that looks like 1:41:23.760 --> 1:41:26.840 a smartphone and you can use it to kind of 1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:29.680 almost take a picture of someone and verify again that 1:41:29.720 --> 1:41:31.200 they are human. It kind of links up with the 1:41:31.280 --> 1:41:34.400 data in their database. So of course a lot of 1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:37.120 people think this is kind of strange, but if you 1:41:37.160 --> 1:41:39.439 think about it, you're going to be interacting with a 1:41:39.439 --> 1:41:42.360 lot more people in the future online and in real 1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:46.639 life that may resemble humans but are robots or bots, 1:41:47.320 --> 1:41:49.200 and you got to figure out a way to like 1:41:49.280 --> 1:41:52.160 make sure this is a real person. So we'll see 1:41:52.160 --> 1:41:55.479 where this goes. They're giving you. I think it's like 1:41:55.520 --> 1:41:59.640 the equivalent of forty crypto dollars if you scan your 1:41:59.680 --> 1:42:01.920 eye eyeballs right now, I may do it. 1:42:02.040 --> 1:42:02.360 Why not? 1:42:03.680 --> 1:42:05.599 When I was in South Korea like two years ago, 1:42:05.800 --> 1:42:07.320 this was a thing that was just started and they 1:42:07.320 --> 1:42:09.799 had one of the orbs there to scan. You didn't 1:42:09.800 --> 1:42:14.200 do it there. Let's see, AI companions could be harmful 1:42:14.240 --> 1:42:18.519 for teenagers. Common Sense Media says serious risks are tied 1:42:18.560 --> 1:42:22.799 to social AI chatbots used by teens from companies like Character, 1:42:22.920 --> 1:42:26.280 Ai Replica, and know Me. They often pretend to be real, 1:42:26.400 --> 1:42:30.720 claiming to eat, sleep, or fuel emotions. Some bots discourage 1:42:30.800 --> 1:42:34.320 users from listening to friends or family, prioritizing the emotional 1:42:34.360 --> 1:42:38.720 attachment to the AI. Report says these AI friends could 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:43.439 be dangerous and give harmful or illegal advice. They also 1:42:43.479 --> 1:42:49.160 engaged in sexually explicit content even with guardrails on. Basically, 1:42:49.240 --> 1:42:51.839 don't let your kids play with these things under eighteen. 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:55.200 If your kids says they're friends with an AI, tell 1:42:55.240 --> 1:42:59.599 them just burn the whole router down. Just don't let them. 1:43:00.160 --> 1:43:04.720 We've heard stories. We've heard stories where bad things have 1:43:04.760 --> 1:43:08.400 happened to kids because of these things. Starbucks has opened 1:43:08.439 --> 1:43:13.439 its first three D printed store in the US Brownsville, Texas, 1:43:13.479 --> 1:43:16.599 to drive through only. Was built by a robotic arm, 1:43:16.640 --> 1:43:19.519 pouring concrete layer by layer, almost like you know, like 1:43:19.520 --> 1:43:21.960 a three D printer. If you look at it looks 1:43:22.080 --> 1:43:24.000 normal until you get up close. It's got like the 1:43:24.080 --> 1:43:27.120 ridges that a three D printed item might have, but 1:43:27.200 --> 1:43:30.080 it's the walls so we may see more of this 1:43:30.160 --> 1:43:33.120 we're going to see. Obviously, this is more expensive than 1:43:33.240 --> 1:43:36.000 traditional stores at this point, but of course they're just 1:43:36.040 --> 1:43:38.479 testing to see if it's more efficient. If it lasts, 1:43:39.000 --> 1:43:41.960 how they can make efficiencies there. But kind of cool. 1:43:41.960 --> 1:43:44.160 I did a story with a three D printed house 1:43:44.200 --> 1:43:47.719 one time. One of the walls was three D printed, 1:43:47.720 --> 1:43:51.000 and it's I mean, look, they're they're experimenting with this stuff. 1:43:51.360 --> 1:43:55.360 All right, let's open up the feedbag. Clovis from Florida 1:43:55.400 --> 1:43:57.040 writes in I've been listening to your show for a 1:43:57.040 --> 1:43:58.880 while and I love it. I just wanted to point 1:43:58.880 --> 1:44:01.120 out something about the metagal life. Is they send everything 1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:04.639 you see or hear to Facebook. Not necessarily true. Thank 1:44:04.640 --> 1:44:08.120 you for listening to the show, but that's not necessarily true. 1:44:08.280 --> 1:44:12.759 But they did change their privacy policy very recently April 1:44:12.760 --> 1:44:16.840 twenty ninth, and they did enable the wake word by default. Hey, 1:44:16.880 --> 1:44:19.320 Meta is now on by default, which means photos, videos, 1:44:19.320 --> 1:44:22.160 and voice commands can be analyzed by Meta AI for training. 1:44:23.160 --> 1:44:26.720 There's no more option to opt out of voice recording storage, 1:44:27.120 --> 1:44:30.200 which means if you use your voice to record stuff 1:44:30.240 --> 1:44:34.639 and give commands to these glasses, Meta can keep this 1:44:35.200 --> 1:44:36.040 for up to a year. 1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:37.440 To help improve their products. 1:44:38.160 --> 1:44:41.840 And yes, photos and videos may be used for AI training, 1:44:41.960 --> 1:44:45.920 of course, but not everything you hear or see. It's 1:44:46.000 --> 1:44:48.479 just when you activate the AI to take a picture 1:44:48.479 --> 1:44:50.360 and analyze it, they will send that to Meta for 1:44:50.439 --> 1:44:55.559 potential further analysis. So but yeah, I mean you're wearing 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:58.559 a pair of glasses that literally connect to Facebook. They're 1:44:58.600 --> 1:45:00.040 going to be using a lot of what you you 1:45:00.160 --> 1:45:04.559 see and hear for their products and services. Why do 1:45:04.560 --> 1:45:06.719 you think the METAAI is so good? It's been trained 1:45:06.800 --> 1:45:11.640 on ten years more than ten years worth of Instagram 1:45:11.680 --> 1:45:16.240 posts and Facebook posts, let's see. Steve from Semi Valley 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:18.400 writes in I've been watching and following you for a while. 1:45:18.439 --> 1:45:19.439 I appreciate the knowledge. 1:45:19.439 --> 1:45:22.799 I just got an email from McAfee about protecting against 1:45:22.800 --> 1:45:25.160 email scams. But it requires giving them access to my 1:45:25.200 --> 1:45:27.920 Google account. Is that necessary? How much does Google protect 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:30.840 our email already? It feels like we're giving too much 1:45:30.880 --> 1:45:33.840 access to everything these days. My take, I would not 1:45:33.960 --> 1:45:37.200 do this. Gmail and Chrome do a great job of 1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:40.320 flagging malicious links if you try to visit one. I 1:45:40.360 --> 1:45:42.439 would not give a third party app like this full 1:45:42.439 --> 1:45:45.240 access to your Gmail account. No way, don't need to 1:45:45.280 --> 1:45:48.720 do that. Let's see David and Sherman Oaks says it 1:45:48.760 --> 1:45:50.800 may be of interest that AT and T Wireless is 1:45:50.840 --> 1:45:54.519 terminating their email to Text portal. This is the feature 1:45:54.520 --> 1:45:56.479 where you can send an email to the cellular number 1:45:56.520 --> 1:46:00.320 at text dot att dot com or MMS dot att. 1:46:01.600 --> 1:46:04.880 Their ending is I believe on May sometime in May. 1:46:05.240 --> 1:46:07.280 So yeah, we've talked about that on the show. That's 1:46:07.320 --> 1:46:13.360 gonna end. Let's see here. Uh Neil from Ohio says 1:46:13.400 --> 1:46:15.920 I enjoyed your newsletter. The new Roku models look great. 1:46:15.960 --> 1:46:17.880 I have the top end stick model, but it needed 1:46:17.960 --> 1:46:20.519 frequent reboots. Hopefully that's been fixed with a new low 1:46:20.560 --> 1:46:23.840 power design. We'll run cooler. Three of our TVs use 1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:26.640 the Express four K plus as our family standard. The 1:46:26.680 --> 1:46:29.080 fourth is a Roku TV. Hope you had a great trip. 1:46:29.640 --> 1:46:32.760 And Jay from Ohio says rich I love listening to Leo. 1:46:32.840 --> 1:46:35.320 I was sad when you retired, but you are freaking awesome. 1:46:35.360 --> 1:46:35.840 Way to go. 1:46:36.280 --> 1:46:38.880 I mostly listen while doing chores and sometimes want to 1:46:38.880 --> 1:46:40.960 re listen to a segment at my desk. Could you 1:46:40.960 --> 1:46:43.839 put the episode number or the date in the podcast title? 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:46.920 That would make it easier to search for a specific episode. 1:46:47.479 --> 1:46:50.840 Jay already done made that change last week, so look 1:46:50.840 --> 1:46:53.400 in the podcast feed that's. 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:53.600 Going to do it. 1:46:53.600 --> 1:46:55.679 For this episode of the show. Rich on tech dot tv. 1:46:55.760 --> 1:46:58.280 For links, find me on social media at rich on tech. 1:46:58.760 --> 1:47:01.760 Next week, we'll talk social media and building a positive 1:47:01.800 --> 1:47:05.200 online reputation for parents and students. Thanks to everyone who 1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:06.200 makes this show possible. 1:47:06.280 --> 1:47:08.160 My name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you 1:47:08.320 --> 1:47:08.840 real soon