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Speaker 1: Let's go to Mark in San Diego. Mark, you're on

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Speaker 4: Well, Hi, Rich, great show.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you taking a call.

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Speaker 4: I have an older pixel for a I really love

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Speaker 4: but I'm just wondering cannot be fixed? Or two should

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Speaker 5: Or three?

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Speaker 4: Should I buy a standalone GPS? Because I really like

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Speaker 1: What was the what are the option? What did you try?

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Speaker 1: What did you try to do on the phone? You

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Speaker 4: I did all the things where you go into your

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Speaker 4: And there's numerous tricks out there that say, you know,

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Speaker 4: download the GPS test. Yeah, I think I heard about

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean it's a great phone. It's had

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Speaker 2: So this phone's been around for a while.

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Speaker 1: So that phone is four hundred ninety nine dollars. I

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Speaker 1: And just based on what you're telling me, Mark, with

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Speaker 1: and tell me, hey, Rich, I'm still using this nine A.

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Speaker 2: I love it so great call. Thanks for the thanks

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight Rich one on one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: Microsoft says they are pushing passwords closer to extinction. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what they're replacing them with Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: To rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. We all hate our passwords, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who likes remembering passwords? I mean I don't

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Speaker 1: which you should be too. But if these companies have

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Speaker 1: We won't need passwords at all. Microsoft made a big

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Speaker 1: They are shifting away from them, and they are now

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Speaker 1: letting you sign up for new accounts without a password

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Speaker 1: sometimes you'll notice this, says just pop in your email

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Speaker 1: And then of course they have these past keys which

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Speaker 1: they say that passkeys are eight times faster than passwords,

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Speaker 2: So this is pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: This is a major major shift, and in fact, you

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Speaker 1: phishing scams all the time, where you go to a

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Speaker 1: hackers set up to capture your password. Well, with pass keys,

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Speaker 6: You're on with Rich Py Rich like love the show

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Speaker 6: Thank You Got a High sense fifty five inch TV

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Speaker 1: in somewhere or call a TV repair person if they

437
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Speaker 1: even have those these days.

438
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Speaker 2: It's funny.

439
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Speaker 1: I saw I was dry and I saw like one

440
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: of these old school places. It looked like it was

441
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: out of the fifties. It was like TV repair. I

442
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that'd be such a cool place to

443
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Speaker 1: do a story on, right, you know, like for my

444
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: KTLA's TV stories. You know, go in there and just

445
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: watch the person as they fix TVs and this and that,

446
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: and so I took a picture, and I went back

447
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: and I googled it and got the phone number, and

448
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: it was like permanently closed. I was like, ah, I

449
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: knew it.

450
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: I knew it.

451
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Speaker 1: There's just there's not many of these people out there anymore.

452
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Speaker 1: I'm also guessing, Paul, that you did not pay a

453
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Speaker 1: significant amount for this TV. I know what I paid

454
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Speaker 1: for my sixty five inch High Sense. It was probably

455
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Speaker 1: I think it was about eight hundred bucks, maybe under

456
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Speaker 1: one thousand dollars. So I would say that you can

457
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Speaker 1: maybe get an estimate if someone wants to give you

458
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Speaker 1: a free estimate on fixing this thing. But I think

459
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Speaker 1: it's probably a total loss, and sadly, it might be

460
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Speaker 1: something you just want to properly recycle and get a

461
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: new one of it happens. It's it's, you know, it's

462
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Speaker 1: it's part of the idea of these TVs are made cheaply.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying High Sense, but in general, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: these TVs nowadays are made so cheaply. Unless you're getting

465
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Speaker 1: the super high end OLED TVs, you know, the rest

466
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: of them are very inexpensive. And so it just sounds

467
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Speaker 1: like you might have gotten one that's you know, has

468
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Speaker 1: a problem. The only other thing I would look at

469
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Speaker 1: you did say you bought at Costco. They do have

470
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Speaker 1: a Costco Tech support hotline, so I would call that

471
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Speaker 1: tech support hotline, and in general, I know Costco used

472
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Speaker 1: to have sort of like unlimited returns with electronics. You

473
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Speaker 1: can try bringing it back to Costco and seeing what

474
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Speaker 1: they say. I think they've limited that since to like

475
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Speaker 1: a two year warranty, but don't quote me on that,

476
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Speaker 1: because you never know. I mean, you could probably bring

477
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Speaker 1: this thing into Costco and just say, hey, look it

478
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Speaker 1: doesn't work, and see what they say. But I think

479
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Speaker 1: the party line at this point at Costco is I

480
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Speaker 1: think it's two years. On electronics, let's say Costco TV return.

481
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Speaker 1: Costco's return policy for TVs and other electronics is now

482
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Speaker 1: interesting says ninety days for televisions, projectors, and major appliances.

483
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Speaker 1: Our Costco Technical and Warranty services will assist you with

484
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Speaker 1: technical support and warranty information for many of the products above.

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Speaker 1: So I would say, since you bought this at Costco,

486
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Speaker 1: I would call them and just see what they say.

487
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: It sounds like they've tightened their return policy. It used

488
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Speaker 1: to be unlimited anything. But all the major retailers are

489
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Speaker 1: sort of doing this, you know, Target, Best Buy, Costco,

490
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: they have, all Macy's, They have all tightened their policies.

491
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Speaker 1: Why because things are cheaper nowadays, people are buying things,

492
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: they're returning them more than ever, and they want to

493
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Speaker 1: protect their business. And so I understand that they can't

494
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Speaker 1: have these unlimited return policies forever, especially as these places

495
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: are being used as showrooms more and more for people

496
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Speaker 1: to look at stuff in store and then buy it online.

497
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the official policy, but you never know.

498
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: You never know, but call them up. See what they say.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time you might want to get a

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Speaker 1: new TV, and yeah, that might just be the time

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Speaker 1: for that, all right, thanks for the call there in Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio eight eight eight rich one oh one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one think.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of things that are going out of style, Google

505
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: is ending support for its Nest learning thermostats the first

506
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Speaker 1: and second generation on October twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.

507
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: These were sold from twenty eleven to twenty fourteen. After

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Speaker 1: that time, these will become a manual thermostat. You will

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Speaker 1: not be able to use any apps or assistants or

510
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Speaker 1: the home away assist to control this thing. So again,

511
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: this will become a manual thermostat. It'll keep working. It's

512
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Speaker 1: not going to get software updates, not going to get

513
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Speaker 1: security updates. So if you have one of these, which

514
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: I do, you have to upgrade if you want to

515
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: continue getting all those smart features. Google should have sent

516
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you an email offering you a discount off the new

517
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: fourth generation Nest Learning thermostat. That'll be one hundred and

518
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: fifty bucks out the door. So again, search your email

519
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: for Nest Learning Thermostat. They probably sent you an email.

520
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: I kind of missed it and I went back in

521
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: my email and found it.

522
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 2: But if you have one of these.

523
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: First and second generation Nest Learning thermostats, they will stop

524
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Speaker 1: working with all the smart features.

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Speaker 2: On October twenty fifth, rich on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: More of your calls coming up right after this. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Let's go to Matthew and

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Speaker 1: Huntington Beach. Matthew, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 7: Hey, rich how's it going?

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00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: It is going fantastic? Is it rainy by the beach.

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Speaker 5: As well a little bit a little drizzly in the morning.

532
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 7: But it's starting to kind of righten up right now

533
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 7: as we speak nice, So weather's good here. So I

534
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Speaker 7: have a quick question for you. So I'm looking to

535
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 7: downgrade from an iPhone to a flip phone for a

536
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 7: number of reasons. One being is just I'm on it

537
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Speaker 7: a lot, and I'm in front of my father and

538
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 7: my daughter sees me on it a lot. And how

539
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 7: does that even work? Am I able to maintain an

540
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 7: iPhone and a foot phone at the same time, like

541
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Speaker 7: two numbers at the same time, if that kind of

542
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 7: makes sense? And what realistic options are there? Or is

543
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 7: it just simply for you got to go down and

544
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 7: straight to a flip phone and tank's an iPhone anymore?

545
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: Okay, when you say flip phone, you mean a like

546
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: a dumb phone, like a pretty much okay, got it.

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00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: So you want to kind of like during the work day,

548
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: maybe have your regular phone, and then when you're with

549
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: your daughter kind of like you know, zoning out, you

550
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: want to have the flip phone.

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00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I don't need my I don't need like

552
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 7: all the gadgets and apps for my work, Like I

553
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 7: don't I don't really need any of that. I can

554
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 7: just use our laptop for it. Like, so for banking

555
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 7: and all that stuff, I can just use a laptop

556
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 7: or my life's mom.

557
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So there are a couple of options. So what

558
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Speaker 1: about I mean, I'm just this is just a thought.

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Speaker 1: What about using an Apple Watch when you with cellular

560
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: when you're not you know, and you can leave your

561
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Speaker 1: phone behind?

562
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, so that's one option.

563
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So that now the downside to that is that

564
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Speaker 1: you will not have a camera. And I know you

565
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: said you have a daughter, so you might want to

566
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Speaker 1: take pictures, you know, if he's in a play or

567
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: whatever you're trying to like focus on right you're at

568
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: the park. So that's the downside of that. Now, because

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Speaker 1: I've looked into this myself because as you might imagine

570
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: someone who covers tech for a living, I am immersed

571
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: in screens and there are sometimes I literally rip my

572
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Apple Watch off my wrist and throw it across the

573
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: room because I'm so sick of the notifications. So the

574
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: other thing you can do is there is a camera

575
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Speaker 1: called the camp Snap.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of this thing?

577
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: I have?

578
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Speaker 1: So it is a it looks like one of those

579
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Speaker 1: cameras like the the old school thirty five millimeters disposable cameras,

580
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: except it is digital and reusable and there's no screen,

581
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: there's nothing. You just literally take pictures on this like

582
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: an old school camera, and then to quote unquote get

583
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: the picture developed. You just plug it into your computer

584
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: and you extract the pictures out of it, so you're

585
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Speaker 1: not looking at them while you're you know, double checking

586
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: them all that stuff. So one option is you've got

587
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Speaker 1: your iPhone, you've got your Apple Watch. You leave the

588
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Speaker 1: iPhone at home, You've got the cellular on the Apple Watch,

589
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Speaker 1: so you're still in touch, you know, if you need

590
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Speaker 1: an emergency whatever. And then you can carry this little

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Speaker 1: camera with you when you are, you know, out and

592
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Speaker 1: about with just your watch, and that will disconnect you

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Speaker 1: from things. And that's probably the easiest, simplest solution that

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00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: gets you where you want to get, right, Okay, that's

595
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Speaker 1: number one. Number two is getting a separate flip phone.

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Speaker 1: The thing about the flip phone is that a lot

597
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: of the carriers they have this thing called number share,

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00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: which means and they all call it something a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. I think number shares verizons at and t.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what they call it. They call it number sync,

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00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: so you can look what carrier do you have? AT

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00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: and Okay, so AT and T, so let's see what

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Speaker 1: they Some of them used to have number sync with

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00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: what's called the light phone. Have you heard of this thing? Okay,

605
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: so the light phone is kind of like a you know,

606
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Speaker 1: the idea that you're talking about is becoming more and

607
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: more popular. The problem is the technology is not necessarily

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Speaker 1: kept up. So I think that in the future we

609
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Speaker 1: may see more devices that are kind of a simpler,

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00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: lighter phone that you can sync with your phone number.

611
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: But right now it is not the easiest thing to

612
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: do because your carrier has to allow you to sink

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Speaker 1: your phone number with your your standard device. So on

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Speaker 1: on AT and T. The only thing I see that

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Speaker 1: you can sink is your Apple watch or your looks

616
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: like your iPad. I'm looking at Android smart watches, tablets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not really seeing like the little devices that

618
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: you can get like it used to be on Verizon,

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Speaker 1: they would they had like one little phone that you

620
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Speaker 1: can sink. I think it was just the light phone

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Speaker 1: that you can sink. Let's see, I'm trying to say,

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00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: see the eligible devices. Yeah, it's like really just saying

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Speaker 1: that the smart watches now, which is interesting. So realistically,

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00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: if you wanted to have the same number on both devices,

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00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: you could set up the secondary device with something like

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00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: Google Voice, or you can just forward your calls to

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Speaker 1: that secondary device.

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Speaker 2: When you're off of it, you're just not going to

629
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Speaker 2: get your texts.

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Speaker 1: So it depends how like how in this you want

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Speaker 1: to be, right, you know, it depends how like how

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Speaker 1: elaborate you want to be? What what are you thinking?

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's it goes both ways. I mean, at

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Speaker 7: this point, it's just whatever I can because I don't

635
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 7: need all the technology for my work and my life

636
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 7: obviously has her phone. So if okay, one of us

637
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: could attach a little bit, if that makes sense, and

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00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 7: all I need is to call and make text methods.

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00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would call, you know what, I would call

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00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: up AT and T and just ask them if you

641
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: can if you can set up a flip phone on number,

642
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: saying and if they say like, yeah, we have we

643
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: have these these devices that you're able to do that with,

644
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: just you know, get one of those. But from their website,

645
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm not really seeing any sort of solution on their

646
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: website that says you can use a flip phone with this,

647
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: But that would be the ideal.

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00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: Way to do it right, right, right, right, But the.

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00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Other you know, and if it doesn't work that way,

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Speaker 1: the other option, like I said, you can forward your

651
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: calls just when you're using the flip phone, which is

652
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: not ideal. You can Google Voice it and so you

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Speaker 1: can have everyone call your Google Voice number, which will

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Speaker 1: ring your iPhone and your other device at the same time.

655
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Speaker 1: Or you can see if if your carrier supports a

656
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Speaker 1: flip phone on this you know, number sync situation. The

657
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Speaker 1: other place to look, by the way, for a flip

658
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Speaker 1: phone is called Dumbwireless dot com. If you go to

659
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Speaker 1: their website, they've got all the popular flip phones. I

660
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Speaker 1: think the number one is the Nokia twenty seven eighty.

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Speaker 1: It's eighty eight bucks for the flip phone that you

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Speaker 1: kind of want. It's like a classic and it works

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Speaker 1: with T Mobile eighteen Team Verizon. So but again you

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Speaker 1: would have to ask them if you can activate that

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Speaker 1: as a number sync phone, Matthew, not easy, not easy

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Speaker 1: to do. What you're talking about is not is not

667
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Speaker 1: as straightforward as you would think. I personally think the

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Speaker 1: easiest way to do it is with the Apple Watch

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Speaker 1: because you I know, you have to get another device,

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Speaker 1: but it sort of makes it pretty simple. And then

671
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: you just have the idea of your camera. You can

672
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Speaker 1: just get it, bring a camera with you. And I

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Speaker 1: would say that I have done that in the past,

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Speaker 1: but most of the time I need a camera when

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Speaker 1: I'm out and about and it's you know, it's really tricky.

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00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: But you can definitely go out and just have the

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Speaker 1: Apple Watch. With Cellular. You'll get your calls, you'll get

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Speaker 1: your text you know, you can do things like maps,

679
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: you can do music. I mean, there's a lot you

680
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: can do on the Apple Watch without having your your

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Speaker 1: phone nearby if it's.

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Speaker 2: Set up for cellular.

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Speaker 7: Gotcha?

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Speaker 2: All right, good question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I like that you're thinking of this

686
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Speaker 1: because this is me on on a daily basis, like

687
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: thinking about how I can be when I want to disconnect,

688
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: how I can disconnect. It's not an easy thing, all right.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: going to talk about Google's Notebook LM.

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Speaker 2: This is a really cool.

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Speaker 1: Feature that lets you digest information in totally new ways. Plus,

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. Coming up this hour,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Steven Johnson, editorial director at Google Labs.

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Speaker 1: He's going to talk about a cool feature from Google

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Speaker 1: called note Book LM. I'll explain what that's all about

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Speaker 1: in a little bit. Uh plus more of your calls

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Speaker 1: coming up here and just a moment, but I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about this. This Minecraft movie has done really

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Speaker 1: well at the box office, over eight hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And if you have kids, they might be singing this song.

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Speaker 1: Listen you hear that.

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Speaker 8: That's the stund This is a lead m steeven chickens, why.

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Speaker 2: In the mill rises?

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Speaker 8: And now you haven't the stack?

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Speaker 1: This is Jack Black. He is uh Steve in a

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Speaker 1: Minecraft movie. He sings this uh goofy thirty four second

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Speaker 1: song about cooking chicken with lava And if your kids

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Speaker 1: are into Minecraft, uh they know all about the lava

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It's now the shortest song to

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Speaker 1: ever chart on the Billboard Hot one hundred, they doing

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Speaker 1: at number seventy eight.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They also have an extended version of the song it's

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Speaker 1: only a minute fifteen long, that also went viral. It's

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Speaker 1: part of the Minecraft movie, which is gross, like I said,

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Speaker 1: over eight hundred million dollars worldwide.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a funny song.

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Speaker 1: My kids started singing this as soon as they were

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Speaker 1: out of the h as soon as they were out

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Speaker 1: of the movie theater, and I didn't give it much thought.

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Speaker 1: But then they kept singing it and singing it, and

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Speaker 1: now it's kind of catchy.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it again.

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Speaker 5: M h.

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Speaker 2: Steve a chicken?

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Speaker 9: Yes, why.

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Speaker 2: Rises to night? You have understand how could you not

736
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Speaker 2: love that?

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Speaker 1: And if you watch the music video, they literally it's

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Speaker 1: like a Minecraft chicken that they dump lava on and

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Speaker 1: it becomes like a crispy delicious chicken. So if you

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Speaker 1: have kids, you have grandkids, you know you've probably already

741
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Speaker 1: heard this, or if you want to bond with them

742
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Speaker 1: a little bit, just be like, hey, what do you

743
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Speaker 1: think about Steve's lava chicken?

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Speaker 2: Huh sha cha cha.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to let's see here, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Madonna in Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Madonna in Michigan.

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Speaker 10: You're on with Rich Hi, So can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Okay.

751
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Speaker 10: So I have a unique experience with my iPhone, and

752
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 10: it's been my last three iPhones. It randomly calls people

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Speaker 10: and it tells me that someone's calling. I go to

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Speaker 10: answer the phone and nobody's there. The other person, they

755
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 10: get a call from me saying I'm calling and nobody's there.

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Speaker 10: So it's happened so many times.

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Speaker 11: I went to.

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Speaker 10: Apple said hey, this is happening with my phone. They've

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Speaker 10: said they've never heard of it. This is now my

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Speaker 10: third iPhone because I've changed phones, graded and it's still

761
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Speaker 10: doing it.

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Speaker 2: Mhmm uh, here's not as much, not as much.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was calling like it was calling my daughter

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Speaker 10: every night, and we just decided that unless I text

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Speaker 10: her and follow up text.

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Speaker 4: It's not me.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, it sounds like you have a haunted phone,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's the case.

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Speaker 12: Here.

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Speaker 1: Are there any sort of special features you're using on

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Speaker 1: this phone or anything that you have turned on, like

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Speaker 1: any any sort of software features that you have activated,

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Speaker 1: like any accessibility features.

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Speaker 5: Nope.

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Speaker 10: Again, this is a phone.

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Speaker 1: Now, but now when you say third phone, have you

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Speaker 1: been copying the phone from one to another or have

779
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Speaker 1: you started fresh.

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Speaker 2: On the phone?

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Speaker 13: Uh?

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Speaker 10: The only thing I downloaded from the last phone is

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Speaker 10: my is your what? My contact?

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Speaker 2: Your contacts?

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00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so you did start fresh, you started completely like

786
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: it didn't say hey, let's copy from your old phone.

787
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Speaker 14: Nope?

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, what about the case on your phone?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I bought it at the Apple store.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So in the has it been a different case

792
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Speaker 2: for each phone?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so typically, I mean this definitely sounds strange. It

795
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Speaker 1: should not be happening there are Okay. So just to

796
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Speaker 1: give you an example, now, does this happen when it's

797
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Speaker 1: in your pocket, your purse, you're holding it, not holding it?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just completely on its.

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Speaker 10: Own, completely on its own?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, Madana, I'm I'm stumped because I so for instance, Okay,

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Speaker 1: before I came on the show, I was playing some

803
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Speaker 1: music and I kept putting my phone. I kept pausing

804
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Speaker 1: the music and then putting the phone in my back pocket,

805
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: and the music would start playing again because my thumb

806
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: was just hitting the phone, you know, on the uh,

807
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, the right exact place to play the music.

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00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is I'm wondering

809
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Speaker 1: if there is a way on the iPhone to not

810
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: dial calls unless you type in something like is there

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Speaker 1: a secondary protection against you know, dialing numbers like you

812
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: have to dial, like a secondary thing, you know, like

813
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Speaker 1: put in like a confirmation code. That might be an

814
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: accessibility feature. I have not heard of that. I've not

815
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of it. Let's see here screen time,

816
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: let's see accessibility guide it now. Okay, So the only

817
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: other thing I can think of is a couple of

818
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Speaker 1: things to try. Number one, you can go into your

819
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Speaker 1: phone and you can turn off any sort of like

820
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: raise to wake features, because your phone, you know, it

821
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: won't do things. Let's see if we can turn that off.

822
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: Oh there, it is raise to wake. So you might

823
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Speaker 1: want to turn off the raise to wake feature and

824
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: display brightness and see if it keeps happening. Okay, that's

825
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: number one. Have you heard of that feature? Okay, so

826
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Speaker 1: that's number one, So go into your settings displaying brightness,

827
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Speaker 1: raised to wake, turn that off and then you might

828
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Speaker 1: turn off the always on display as a secondary method.

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Speaker 1: So just try those two things to see if it happens,

830
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: if it continues happening. But this is I mean, this

831
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Speaker 1: is like I don't believe in ghosts, but if I did,

832
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: this would be right up there, because I now have

833
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Speaker 1: I heard of phones dialing people randomly. Of course, because

834
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Speaker 1: we're handling our phones. They're in our purses sometimes our pockets, purses, backpacks.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes people forget to forget to lock their phones. The

836
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Speaker 1: only the other thing I would do is make sure

837
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Speaker 1: under your displaying brightness your auto lock is set to

838
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, because some people I've noticed they take their

839
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: phone out, they do something on their phone, and then

840
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: they just put it away without locking it. So I

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Speaker 1: want you to get into the habit Madonna of tapping

842
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: the button on the right to actually lock your screen

843
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: when you are not using it and see if that helps.

844
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: And these are all kind of like this is you

845
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: know what, this is your homework. I'm assigning you homework.

846
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: This is what I would like you to do. And

847
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: then I want you to call me back next week

848
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: and tell me if anything has improved. And then the

849
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: other thing you can do if you want to take

850
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: it a step further is to go into your settings

851
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: settings General and then transfer a reset phone and then

852
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: you can do a reset and you can do reset

853
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: all settings and see if that helps. But don't do that.

854
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: That's like the last ditch effort. I want you to

855
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: try the other three, the other three things I mentioned before.

856
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: You try that, and then call me back next week.

857
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: I want to report and see if this still happens.

858
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Interesting question. I know you know these things happen. Butt dials,

859
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: pocket dials. I mean, look, these happen all the time.

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00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of relatives that do a pocket

861
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Speaker 1: dial quite often. And you can always tell because all

862
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you just start hearing them talking in

863
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: the background. You're like, uh, do I want to listen

864
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: because I don't know what's happening here?

865
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Like you kind of.

866
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: Your curiosity is like I want to hear what's your

867
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Speaker 1: what's happening in the background, But I'm also not sure

868
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Speaker 1: what I'm in for, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Uh So, yeah, try that and tell me what happens.

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Speaker 1: Eighty to eight rich one oh one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. If you

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Speaker 1: get an email about in a VAST settlement, do not

873
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Speaker 1: delete it. It's actually real.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 14: You're on with Rich Hi Rich.

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Speaker 11: A longtime listener here.

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Speaker 4: Rich.

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Speaker 11: I live in an area in West Marietta, California, call

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Speaker 11: it Cresta. It's kind of in the hills, and our

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Speaker 11: cell reception is terrible. It doesn't matter if it's at

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Speaker 11: and T verive in T Mobile. All the neighbors have

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00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 11: the same issue. We use Wi Fi calling, but even

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Speaker 11: then reception is really bad. And I was wondering what

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Speaker 11: you could recommend to boost our signals.

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Speaker 2: Why why is the Wi Fi calling?

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Speaker 1: You mean Wi Fi calling in your house is bad

924
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: because it shouldn't be bad in the house.

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Speaker 15: It's you know, like I said, it's a rural area.

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Speaker 15: I I have starlink, my friend has starlink, and and

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Speaker 15: even with that, the Wi Fi colleague, okay.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that that could explain it because starlink,

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Speaker 1: I mean satellite. The latency on a satellite connection, even

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Speaker 1: though starlink is the best, could still be a little tricky.

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Speaker 2: But I still didn't.

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Speaker 11: But even when I had the bios internet, it was

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Speaker 11: the same issue.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, huh.

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Speaker 11: There's uh, you know, there's hundreds of people up here

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Speaker 11: and we're having the same issue. The SALN reception.

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Speaker 15: It's just terrible.

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Speaker 11: Okay, Well I called a canty and there's there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean there are Okay, there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of ways you can do this. So first off, I

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Speaker 1: mean they used to have these things called cell boosters,

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Speaker 1: which you can install in your home and basically you

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Speaker 1: can use your internet connection. So it's a little box

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Speaker 1: that you get from your cell phone company, so whether

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Speaker 1: it's AT and T or Verizon or T Mobile, and

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Speaker 1: you basically plug it into your ethernet, you know, to

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Speaker 1: your Internet connection, and then that creates sort of its

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Speaker 1: own cellular connection. But the thing is Wi Fi calling

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Speaker 1: has really taken that over, so that's why you don't

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Speaker 1: hear about these much anymore. But with that said, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the website and it looks like Verizon and

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Speaker 1: AT and T still offer one of these things. It

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Speaker 1: may not be free, so you might call them and say,

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Speaker 1: you know, plead your case and they may give you

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Speaker 1: one for free. But you know, there looks like they're

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Speaker 1: charging like two fifty two hundred and fifty dollars for

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Speaker 1: these things. And the reason why we don't talk about

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Speaker 1: them anymore is because everyone has Wi Fi calling on

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Speaker 1: their phone. You can just flip that on and it

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Speaker 1: usually works pretty well. So before you try this, I

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Speaker 1: would just go into the Wi Fi calling settings on

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Speaker 1: your phone and just make sure that you're actually using

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Speaker 1: that the way it's intended. So if you go into

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Speaker 1: cellular and then look at your Wi Fi calling. There

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Speaker 1: are some options in there, and so I would check

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Speaker 1: to make sure those options are on. And yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: weird that it's not working because that should at least

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Speaker 1: work when you're in your house. So anyway, so the

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Speaker 1: first thing to do is is look and see if

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Speaker 1: your provider offers one of these network extenders and you

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Speaker 1: can plug that in and theoretically you should get a

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Speaker 1: better signal from that. And the reason why that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different from the Wi Fi calling is because

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Speaker 1: it almost, like I think, is the way I understand it,

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Speaker 1: It sort of pretends it's an LTE signal, and so

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Speaker 1: your phone is actually connecting with an LTE signal versus

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Speaker 1: that Wi Fi calling, So it might be a little

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Speaker 1: bit better than the Wi Fi calling. And you know,

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Speaker 1: check the return policy. You know, if it's thirty it

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Speaker 1: says on the Verizon side, it says free returns within

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Speaker 1: thirty days. So it can't hurt to try this, and

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Speaker 1: for two fifty dollars to actually get a good signal,

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Speaker 1: why not. So that's number one. So I check for

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Speaker 1: those and see if your carrier provides that or you

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Speaker 1: can purchase that. And then the second thing is there

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Speaker 1: is a company called we Boost and this is pretty

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Speaker 1: much like the standard Wi Fi booster company, and they've

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Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of products there. They've got one

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Speaker 1: called the we Boost Cabin, which it's seven hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: You can install this little antenna on the side of

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Speaker 1: your house and yeah, engineered for the most off grid abodes.

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Speaker 1: Cabin works with any device on any US cellular network

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Speaker 1: up to five G twenty four foot antenna, ten minutes setup,

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Speaker 1: no subscriptions, reliable connectivity, so thirty day money back guarantee

995
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: on that, free return shipping. Again, so if you really

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Speaker 1: want to try these things, you know, these are the options.

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Speaker 1: So how it works. Let's see, So it's got the

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Speaker 1: outdoor antenna, goes to the cell antenna and that's got

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Speaker 1: a booster and then an inside antenna. So again, if

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Speaker 1: you're sticking to where you live there, would you say

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Speaker 1: requesta If you're sticking to where you live there, this

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Speaker 1: might not be a bad investment for this price. But

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Speaker 1: again I'm going back to that Wi Fi connectivity. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the other thing is that Starlink and T Mobile eventually

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Speaker 1: are going to offer Wi Fi are cellular calling over

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Speaker 1: the Starlink network, so you know that's another option you

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Speaker 1: can hold out for that. I don't know when that's

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Speaker 1: going to be, I mean right now, we're still waiting

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Speaker 1: on the texting ability, but they do say calls are

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00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: going to come soon or eventually going to be a

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00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: thing through the Starlink network on Tea mobile. So anyway,

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00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: a couple of options there. Check out the networking center,

1013
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: check out we Boost. Two good options to get you

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00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: up and running there. Sorry you're having those issues. We're

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00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: hearing less and less of the spotty issues and area,

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00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: but look they're still out there and if you live

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Speaker 1: in one, it's a pain. Thanks for the call, Sylvia,

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: Do appreciate it all right? Coming up, we're gonna talk

1019
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: about Notebook LM. If you haven't heard of this, this

1020
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: is Google's AI powered research assistant. They are launching a

1021
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: mobile app on iOS and Android. It's been desktop only

1022
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty three. Cool feature. I'll tell you what

1023
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: it can do for you. Coming up next, Welcome back

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00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

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00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: talking technology. Kevin Wrights, whoever's running your board? Bumper Music's

1026
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: your board music? Bumpers is good? I just heard Voodoo Chili.

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00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: A while ago.

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00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: My printer wasn't working at that moment, and now at

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Speaker 1: prints Voodoo.

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00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: What child child?

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00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh Chili, I can't hear your MIC's not you're not

1032
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: at your mic.

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00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 14: I wasn't expecting to have to correct your english today.

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00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: Well I didn't know.

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00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: Okay, it's voodoo child, Yeah, child child, drop the D make.

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00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: An e Voodoo child. Oh he did write it right, Yeah,

1037
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: you just didn't say it right. Was that the song

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00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: you chose? Yes, there you go. See where's our ding?

1039
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: You need it? See?

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00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 5: Uh?

1041
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was Bobo's pick clearly, because I don't even

1042
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: know this this song.

1043
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: But hey, it fixed his printer, so that's good news.

1044
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: All right, we got to get to this interview.

1045
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: We've got Steven Johnson from Google Labs to talk about

1046
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: Notebook LM. This is Google's AI powered research and writing

1047
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: tool that helps you organize and understand information faster.

1048
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 13: Notebook LM is it is an application out of Google

1049
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 13: Labs that is designed to be a tool for understanding things.

1050
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 13: So it's an AI powered application you put in whatever

1051
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 13: documents you're working on that you're trying to make sense of,

1052
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 13: whether it's research, you're working on at school, or it's

1053
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 13: a marketing plan you're developing for your company, and once

1054
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 13: you upload that document, it's as if the underlying AI

1055
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 13: has become an expert in that particular information, and so

1056
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 13: you can ask questions, you can ask follow up questions,

1057
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 13: you can create what we call audio overviews that are

1058
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 13: kind of simulated podcast discussions about the information you've uploaded.

1059
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 13: You can generate study guides and briefing docs, and so

1060
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 13: it's basically creates a kind of personalized AI that's really

1061
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 13: grounded in the information that matters most to you.

1062
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So I was sending the impression that was

1063
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: just for the podcast aspect, that's just one aspect of

1064
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: this tool. What do you think about how that aspect

1065
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: has sort of taken on a life of its own.

1066
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's been really excited to see. We've seen amazing

1067
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 13: adoption of it. And there's something kind of magical in

1068
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 13: hearing this audio conversation, very realistic back and forth between

1069
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 13: these two simulated hosts based on whatever information you put

1070
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 13: in there. So people are putting their journals in there

1071
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 13: and listening to these two.

1072
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Speaker 16: AI hosts discussed the latest events in their own lives

1073
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 16: where people are using it to study or reviewing like

1074
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 16: scientific papers, so they can kind of listen to them

1075
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 16: in the.

1076
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 14: Cars they drive to work.

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Speaker 13: So we're really excited about it, and we're kind of

1078
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 13: building on those tools. We really want to basically create

1079
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 13: Notebook to be a place where we will adapt to

1080
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 13: whatever kind of learning style you have. And so if

1081
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 13: you want to learn by asking questions, we can help

1082
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 13: you with that. If you want to learn by listening,

1083
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 13: we can help you with that. In the future, if

1084
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 13: you want to learn by watching some kind of video,

1085
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 13: we'll probably going to be helping you with that as well.

1086
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 14: How is this born? I mean you said it's a

1087
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 14: Google Labs product.

1088
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean just someone just come up with an idea

1089
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Speaker 1: of like, hey, let's make AI personal and work for you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's the backstory of it is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 13: So I've spent most of my career as a writer.

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Speaker 13: I've written fourteen books on a whole range of topics,

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Speaker 13: and a few years ago Google reached out to me

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Speaker 13: and said, hey, would you want to come to Google

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Speaker 13: and help us build the kind of the dream like

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Speaker 13: writing and research and thinking tool that you've always wanted

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Speaker 13: to have, now powered by AI. And they put together

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Speaker 13: a small team to kind of build a prototype, and

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Speaker 13: so I joined in the summer of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 13: and somehow, you know, almost three years later, here we

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Speaker 13: Google's AI efforts.

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Speaker 14: What do you make of the success of this.

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Speaker 13: I think it shows that people are really drawn to

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Speaker 13: this personalized AI vision, right, So it's it's not just

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Speaker 13: about talking to a general model that knows a little

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Speaker 13: about everything in the world, but rather taking the power

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Speaker 13: of AI and the ability of AIA to help you

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Speaker 13: understand things and help explain things to you and help

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Speaker 13: you organize, but grounding it in your own documents or

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Speaker 13: whatever you're trying to make sense of. I think that

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Speaker 13: that really unlocks a whole new capability set of capabilities

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Speaker 13: for AI that I think people who just had a

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Speaker 13: was possible. And once you get a taste of it,

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Speaker 13: it's really quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 14: How have you evolved notebook LM since you introduced it.

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Speaker 13: We've also made it easy for people to discover sources

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Speaker 13: that they might want to explore. So you can just say, hey,

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Speaker 13: I'm interested in the history of piracy in the seventeenth century,

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Speaker 13: and we'll go out onto the web and find a

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Speaker 13: collection of high quality sources and bring them directly into

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Speaker 13: your notebook to make it easier for you to explore

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Speaker 13: that information in kind of a one click way.

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Speaker 14: How does the average person access this?

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Speaker 5: You just visit.

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Speaker 13: Notebook LM dot Google dot com, signed into a Google account,

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Speaker 13: and you can get started right away. And the easiest

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Speaker 13: thing to do is to create a new notebook and upload,

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Speaker 13: you know, just just some of the recent documents you've

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Speaker 13: been doing in your work or your studies, and just

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Speaker 13: start interacting generated an audio overview, ask some questions and

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Speaker 13: you'll get a sense of just how nuanced and sophisticated

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Speaker 13: the model is and understanding what you've shared, and then

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Speaker 13: then you can kind of start thinking about like, Okay,

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Speaker 13: I have this project, I'm going to create a new

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Speaker 13: notebook for this project. I'm gonna load up these documents

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Speaker 13: for that particular project. And then I think most folks

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Speaker 13: will find that it really gets integrated into their kind

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Speaker 13: of day to day workload pretty easily.

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Speaker 14: And who are these podcasts hosts.

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Speaker 13: They are two people who we trained on their voices.

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Speaker 13: We have not revealed who they are in actuality. But

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Speaker 13: what's interesting about the process for training the you know,

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Speaker 13: the voices, is that the voice model was trained from

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Speaker 13: the ground to be a conversational model. So it wasn't

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Speaker 13: like we trained on one voice and we trained on

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Speaker 13: another voice and we just stitched them together in a

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Speaker 13: script like those two people sat in a studio for

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Speaker 13: hours and hours and hours and hours talking and we

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Speaker 13: learn over time how they interact. And that's why the

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Speaker 13: audio overviews I think sound so kind of convincing. Is

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Speaker 13: you really get all the nuances of two human beings

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Speaker 13: in conversation with each other, and the way that we

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Speaker 13: subtly interrupt each other and the sounds we make when

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Speaker 13: we are affirming what the other person is saying. There's

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Speaker 13: a kind of magic in that that I think people

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Speaker 13: just hadn't heard before this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so a version of this made it to Gemini,

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Speaker 1: like the main app right, So is that is that

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Speaker 1: exciting for you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: We were one of the things that we try to

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Speaker 13: do with labs and Notebook has just been kind of

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Speaker 13: the most high profile version of this is you know,

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Speaker 13: we're trying to constantly innovate and generate new kind of

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Speaker 13: product based user focused experiments where we're trying to build

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Speaker 13: use but we're also trying to build sometimes crazy things

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Speaker 13: and and and and work quickly. And so what we

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Speaker 13: want to do is it is create an environment where

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Speaker 13: we're generating new ideas that can then graduate up to

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Speaker 13: other products in the in the Google family. I mean,

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Speaker 13: Gemini is kind of going to sense the closest product

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Speaker 13: to us, so having audio overviews show up there makes

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Speaker 13: a lot of sense. But we you know, we're able

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Speaker 13: to kind of move pretty quickly because we're smaller and

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Speaker 13: more nimble. And if things that we end up spawning,

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Speaker 13: you know, populate the rest of the Google ecosystem, I mean,

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Speaker 13: that's that's exciting for us.

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Speaker 1: And just finally, you know, you said you wrote fourteen books,

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Speaker 1: you're a writer, lifelong writer. What do you make of

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Speaker 1: all of this AI stuff that you're building? Like and

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Speaker 1: you know people are worried about this taking over what

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Speaker 1: they do you know, seeing it on from the inside,

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Speaker 1: do you think that could happen?

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Speaker 14: And are you worried about that?

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Speaker 13: I'm not worried about it. Short term I'm very confident

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Speaker 13: that short term, I am going to be a much

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Speaker 13: better writer, much more efficient writer, because of AI, because

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Speaker 13: of tools like notebook LM. I'm dying, for instance, to

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Speaker 13: go write my next book. But this day job, I

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Speaker 13: somehow found myself in no book el I'm was taking

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Speaker 13: up all of my time. So I think there's a

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Speaker 13: long period there where like, if you embrace these tools,

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Speaker 13: you know, you're able to be more creative, You're able

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Speaker 13: to you know, use the tools to help you remember

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Speaker 13: all the things that you have to remember to write

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Speaker 13: a book. It's you know, it is going to be

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Speaker 13: a real assistant to the writing process and to the

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Speaker 13: research process for a long time. If we were to

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Speaker 13: get to a point in some future, way off point

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Speaker 13: where you know, you could hit a button and write

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Speaker 13: a Stephen Johnson, you know, a book automatically one, I

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Speaker 13: don't think that's likely. But if we do get to

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Speaker 13: that point, that the fate of nonfiction writers will be

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Speaker 13: like the least of our problems. That will really each

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Speaker 13: a new level of artificial intelligence. So we'll have profound

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Speaker 13: societal implications. But I don't see that on the horizon

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Speaker 13: right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, thanks again, Steven Johnson at Google Labs.

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Speaker 1: Here is what the podcast that they create sounds like.

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Speaker 13: If you're just charric dive today, we're really zeroing in

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Speaker 13: on the Microsoft twenty twenty five word Trend Index annual report.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this isn't just another forecast.

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Speaker 15: Is it?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: It argues so you hear how those two AI voices

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Speaker 1: sort of interact. Those are generated on the fly from

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Speaker 1: the information that you upload. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: try this in its simplest, easiest way, they've actually built

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Speaker 1: it into the Gemini app. So you can open up

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Speaker 1: the Gemini app, upload a file anything like, anything that

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Speaker 1: you want it to talk about, and then wait for

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Speaker 1: it to say generate audio interview, generate audio overview, tap that,

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Speaker 1: and then it will create the little podcast that you

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Speaker 1: can listen to. Of course, you can only go to

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Speaker 1: NOTEBOOKLM dot Google dot com and the Android apps. There

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Speaker 1: are no apps right now. Android and iOS apps there

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Speaker 1: are none right now. They're coming out on May twentieth,

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Speaker 1: So don't start the app store for Notebook LM. Those

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Speaker 1: are not official all right. Rich on Tech dot tv

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Speaker 1: for all the links. More rich on Tech coming your

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Speaker 1: way right after this Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at

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Speaker 1: Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight at eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. The website

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Speaker 1: for the show rich on Tech dot tv. You want

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Speaker 1: to email me hit contact. Bruce writes in I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you mentioned about the ghost styling. I'm glad you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the screenlock. Uh, it's he does think that it might

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Speaker 1: have been the screenlock. Okay, Actually, you know I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna I gotta I gotta check these emails before I

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Speaker 1: say I want to read them on the air. Might

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Speaker 1: not have been that nice to our caller. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Joe in Orange County. Joe, you're on with Wretch.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Rick, I hope you can help me with this.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I made the mistake of donating one time, and ever

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Speaker 3: since then, I got like thirty some emails a day,

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Speaker 3: and I thought they would stop when the election was over,

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Speaker 3: but they continue right on it. It's like really bad harassments.

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Speaker 3: This morning, I got one before six am, and it's

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Speaker 3: just so annoying, you know, like they mentioned my name, Johanna.

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Speaker 3: You know, Trump is talking about you and.

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Speaker 12: All these dumb things now, so trying.

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Speaker 3: To get your money, and you know, they'll say, I'm

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Speaker 3: not asking for money, I.

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Speaker 4: Just want your opinion.

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Speaker 7: You're invited to mirror Lago.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just crazy things and it's just you don't

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Speaker 3: want to go. I don't know how to get hold

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Speaker 3: of them, but I want them to stop, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know how to stop them.

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Speaker 1: A these texts are emails. You said email, but it

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Speaker 1: sounds like these are texts. Okay, they're texts. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: Well here's the deal. So it's funny you say that

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Speaker 1: once you donated, because whenever I donate to charity, it's

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Speaker 1: really interesting because all of a sudden, what shows up

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Speaker 1: in my mailbox, in my physical mailbox, is one hundred

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Speaker 1: more solicitations for donations. And it's because I'm convinced these

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Speaker 1: places sell your information saying, hey we got a hot

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Speaker 1: one here, we got someone that's actually given money, let's

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Speaker 1: spam them. So I think with regards to the text messaging,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of things you can do. Number One,

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Speaker 1: if these are legitimate senders, okay, you should be able

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Speaker 1: to reply back with the word stop. Okay, So that

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Speaker 1: should be number one. Now, I don't know if these

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Speaker 1: are legitimate senders or not. It sounds like you are

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Speaker 1: on a combination of some political lists, but also maybe

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Speaker 1: some unwanted lists as well. So I would the ones

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Speaker 1: that look legitimate, I would just try to reply with

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Speaker 1: the words stop, and that should get some of them

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Speaker 1: to stop. The other thing you can do is inside

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Speaker 1: your app on if you're on iPhone or Android, depending

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Speaker 1: on your app. So if you're on iPhone, there is

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Speaker 1: a setting if you go into your settings, okay and

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Speaker 1: they change where this is.

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Speaker 2: You have to go.

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Speaker 1: Settings, scroll all the way down to where it says apps,

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Speaker 1: and then scroll all the way down to where it

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Speaker 1: says messages.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting there right now here it is, and.

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Speaker 1: Then scroll all the way down until it says filter

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Speaker 1: unknown senders. Toggle that on. So anyone who is not

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Speaker 1: in your contacts will go in a separate list. And

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Speaker 1: so now when you go back to your messages app,

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Speaker 1: you will see you'll have this little filters and it

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Speaker 1: says all messages known senders, unknown senders, And that way

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Speaker 1: you can go into the unknown and it's all the

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Speaker 1: people that you don't know and it'll be a separate list. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's one way to do it on the iPhone.

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Speaker 1: And then on Android, they've actually got some pretty good

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Speaker 1: uh spam protection built in. So you can go into

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Speaker 1: your Android Messages, which is really Google Messages, tap your

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Speaker 1: little icon in the upper right hand corner and it

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Speaker 1: says Messages Settings, and then scroll down to where it

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Speaker 1: says protection and safety and then enable spam protection. Toggle

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Speaker 1: that on, and that should help. And those are the

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Speaker 1: the only, the only real three ways that you can

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Speaker 1: get rid of these messages that you're on, these you know,

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Speaker 1: political texts. There might be some other sort of ways.

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Speaker 1: Let me see there's I thought there was a way

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Speaker 1: that you could send something.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think that's really it is. Those are

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Speaker 1: the main ways to get off of those uh text messages.

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Speaker 1: Is the legitimate ones will say stop and and the

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Speaker 1: non legitimate ones, yeah, there's not much you can do

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Speaker 1: because they're not following the rules. So yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: say the call blocking stuff is probably the main way

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Speaker 1: to do it, or the text blocking is probably the

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Speaker 1: main way to do it. But I think the methods

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Speaker 1: I mentioned should probably cut down on some of the.

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Speaker 2: Texts you get. But yeah, Joey, good luck, with that.

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Speaker 1: I know these were a problem during the election, and

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Speaker 1: you know, any look text messages companies, they love it

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Speaker 1: because we check our texts in a world of always on.

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Speaker 1: You know, emails can get lost in the shuffle. You know,

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: you get mail at your house, you know, maybe you'll

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Speaker 1: get you'll look at it. But text messages people get.

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Speaker 1: They are delivered immediately you pick up your phone to

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Speaker 1: look at them.

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Speaker 2: They go to your wrist.

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Speaker 1: So giving out your phone number in the future, get

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Speaker 1: a different phone number, get like a Google Voice number,

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Speaker 1: Get a Burner number. There's an app called Burner. You

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01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: can get a secondary line. Your cell phone provides may

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: give you a secondary line, and no T Mobile was

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Speaker 1: for a while with that.

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Speaker 2: Digits Verizon.

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Speaker 1: I think you can buy a secondary line from them

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: for like ten dollars a month, but don't give out

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Speaker 1: your real phone number. When you were signing up for

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: lists and things. Give out your real phone number to

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01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: friends and family for the rest of the stuff. Get

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01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: a secondary number, and you can get even a number

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01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: like a text Now number, so you can you can

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: sign up with them. The problem is you may not

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: get all the text from them, But I guess that's

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01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: a good thing right anyway, A couple ways to do it.

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Speaker 2: Xbox.

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Speaker 1: Microsoft is raising prices on the Xbox, Xbox consoles, controllers

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Speaker 1: and headsets and games later. So first party Xbox games

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Speaker 1: you're gonna cost eighty bucks starting this holiday season. Microsoft

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Speaker 1: did not say the t word tariffs, but they did

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Speaker 1: say rising development costs and market conditions. So the Xbox

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Speaker 1: series s used to be three hundred dollars now the

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Speaker 1: suggested retail price three to eighty series this one terabyte

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Speaker 1: used to be three fifty now four thirty Digital four

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Speaker 1: fifty now five point fifty. Xbox Series X Standard used

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Speaker 1: to be five hundred, now six hundred. If you get

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Speaker 1: the top of the line two terabyte Galaxy Edition six

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Speaker 1: hundred now seven to twenty nine, So anywhere between eighty two,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty dollars. Price increase on the Xboxes.

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Speaker 1: So if you look online, a lot of the retailers

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Speaker 1: are still selling them at the old prices, So this

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Speaker 1: is not a These are suggested retail prices, which means

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Speaker 1: you may or may not see that actually happen in

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Speaker 1: the real world. Eighty eight rich one O one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one

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Speaker 1: coming up, I'll tell you the latest AI features on Gemini,

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Speaker 1: Meta and Chat GPT. This is rich on Tech. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Rich tamiro here with you

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Speaker 1: for more tech news, tips, reviews, and your questions. That

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Speaker 1: triple a rich one on one. That's eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four two four one zero one. Coming up this hour,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk uber lyft, delivery apps, robotaxis, all the

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Speaker 1: latest in the gig economy with Harry Campbell, founder of

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Speaker 1: the Ride share Guy. And uh we'll get cheer calls

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Speaker 1: in just a moment, but I want to give you

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Speaker 1: the AI updates this week. You know, these AI bots

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: are rapidly evolving.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's new. Chat GBT now has shopping features. So

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Speaker 1: open ai is adding shopping tools right into chat GBT,

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Speaker 1: which means you can browse and compare products.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: All these recommendations are personalized based on your preferences, non

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: sponsored reviews. UH pulls info from sites like Wired, Reddit

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01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 1: and other review platforms, not paid ads. Chat GBT says

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01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: are already doing over a billion web searches per week.

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Speaker 1: They're just throwing out some fighting words against Google there

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 1: and they know a lot of this stuff is focused

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: on product research, So right now, this is very different

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Speaker 1: from other search results you might get from something like

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: a Google because a lot of that stuff is sponsored

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: or it's kind of like nonsense, like top ten things

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Speaker 1: we love on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Right now, what.

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01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: Chatchybt is doing is they are using their understanding of

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: these reviews to sort of pull out and synthesize all

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: the key features and things that reviewers are saying about

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01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: products to help you actually find stuff that fits your needs.

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: So kind of cool, we'll see because right now they're

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01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: not making any money on this, but in the future

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01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: they might experiment with ads or revenue models, affiliate revenue, whatever,

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01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: But right now they're just trying to make this excellent

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: for the end user. And this is something we've seen

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: in the tech world over and over and over all.

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01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: These features start out with the customer in mind, and

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: then as time goes on and everyone starts using these things,

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: they sort of start slowly but surely evolving and shifting

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01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: to benefit the company, benefiting chatchybt. Because chatchybt's, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: putting all this effort into this. What about us making

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: money when someone buys a coffee maker? We should get

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01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: a little percentage of that. Then they start, you know,

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Speaker 1: favoring different things. Anyway, if you're looking at shop for

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Speaker 1: stuff now you can ask chatch ebt for more shopping

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Speaker 1: details on items and comparing things. Meanwhile, Meta has launched

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Speaker 1: their own standalone AI assistant app. It's basically a rival

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Speaker 1: to chatchbt. It's got voice, it's got image generation, it's

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Speaker 1: got web search. It's called Meta AI. You can download

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Speaker 1: it on iPhone and Android. The interesting thing that they've

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Speaker 1: built in is the discover feed. This looks like a

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Speaker 1: Facebook feed, but it's all about people posting how they've

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: used AI with this Meta AI, so you can see

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Speaker 1: the graphics that they've generated or the answers they've gotten.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's all opt in, so it's not like

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna people are gonna be seeing what you're doing

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 1: on this app. You can choose to share something interesting

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Speaker 1: with other people. There's also a voice mode, which I

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: tested out yesterday and it's actually very good. So if

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: you tried the voice mode on Chat, Gibt or Gemini,

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Speaker 1: Meta has its own metas ai is actually really good.

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Speaker 1: It's just they forced it down our throat in all

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Speaker 1: these different apps like Instagram and Facebook and WhatsApp, and

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Speaker 1: it's sort of left a bad taste in people's mouths

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01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: because it's like we're being forced to use this in

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Speaker 1: places we don't want to use it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: I get it.

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: If you download the Meta AI app and you love it,

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: that's great. But the fact that when you search for

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Speaker 1: someone on Instagram and it immediately pops up all the

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: AI stuff you're not looking for that, you're looking for

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: the person you're trying to look up. So I think

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01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: that's where they went wrong with. You know, they have

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: a very good AI product, but I think they went

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: very wrong in how they delivered it to people. So anyway,

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01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: there you have it Meta AI if you want to

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: download it for iOS and Android. And then Gemini. This

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: is Google's answer to chatchbt Gemini. They just added AI

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: image editing and it's really good. It's the fastest AI

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: image edit I've ever seen so far. So you can

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: upload your own picture to Gemini, which is Gemini dot

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: Google dot com or the Gemini app on your phone,

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01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: and you can say what you want Gemini to do

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01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: to that picture. So, for instance, if you look at

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Speaker 1: my picture that I posted today of me doing the

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Speaker 1: radio show. You can check it out on my Instagram

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: at richon Tech on my stories. It's me with sort

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: of like a computer background behind me. So what I

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: did was I just took a picture and I said, Gemini,

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Speaker 1: change the background to something techie, And in about ten

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Speaker 1: seconds it changed it. It extracted my outline of me

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Speaker 1: and put it over a new background, and you can,

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Speaker 1: you know, I tried one thing where you can try. Ah,

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Speaker 1: just take a picture of your street and say add

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Speaker 1: a dinosaur to this street, and it's really good. So

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Speaker 1: right now they are putting a little watermark. If you

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Speaker 1: look in the lower right hand corner of my picture

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, you'll see a little AI symbol, So they're

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: experimenting with that where it's a visible AI marker. But

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01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: then they're also putting in the actual metadata of the

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Speaker 1: picture some AI identifiers so that other apps and different

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, the different apps that are looking at these

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Speaker 1: photos on the back end can identify that that was

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Speaker 1: created with AI. Let's go to Mark in Montana. Mark,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 5: Hey have it gone Rich today? Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 5: question about my satellite TV I use.

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Speaker 7: I use Addition.

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Speaker 5: Network and I'm in really really real, Montana. I pay

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Speaker 5: a couple of hours extra for what they call local channels.

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Speaker 5: I don't like their local channels. I moved out here

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Speaker 5: years ago from New York. Is there any way not

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 5: necessarily with the satellite, but even on a computer that

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01:16:54,200 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 5: I can access New York City broadcast channel, not just

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Speaker 5: the news but all day?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: Yes, there's actually well okay, not okay, Yes and no.

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01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean look, there's always ways of especially nowadays with

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Speaker 1: all of the streaming apps.

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Speaker 2: Almost do you have do you have a good internet

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01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: connection or no? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of these streaming apps will allow you

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Speaker 1: to uh stream the channels live. And so if you

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Speaker 1: go and download like Pluto TV two b uh, let's

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Speaker 1: see what's the other one?

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Speaker 2: Zoomo zu m o peacock.

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Speaker 1: So all of these these streaming services are now owned

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: by the big companies, so pretty much all of the

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: major networks, Fox, ABC, CBS, they are now putting a

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of their TV channels streaming live on these services.

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01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: So if you go to two B, you're gonna find

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of the I believe they're owned by Fox.

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna find a bunch of those Fox channels on there.

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: If you go to Pluto, they are owned by Viacom,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna find a bunch of the CBS channels on there.

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01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: NBC is owned by or Peacock is owned by NBC

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Speaker 1: Universal Comcasts, so they are going to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of those NBC channels. So you can really download these

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01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: apps to your TV and piece together those stations that

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Speaker 1: you want to watch. That's number one. And then some

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01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: of these stations might also have their own streaming apps

1518
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,520
Speaker 1: as well. So for instance, in La, I work for KTLA,

1519
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: they have their own streaming app where you can download

1520
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: that app and you can stream our news live all

1521
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: day long anywhere you want.

1522
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: You don't have to be in La.

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01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,520
Speaker 1: Same thing Picks eleven out of New York City, They've

1524
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: got their own streaming app and you can download that

1525
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: and stream pix eleven, which is New York City News

1526
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. So there are ways of sort

1527
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: of piecing this together in a freeway, but it just

1528
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: might take a couple of apps to download and a

1529
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: bunch of trial and error. Like you can see, like

1530
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: if you have a station that you want to watch,

1531
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: like let's say you wanted to watch WABC, see in

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: New York. You can just you know, maybe Google to

1533
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: see where they are streaming live. So it all depends on,

1534
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: you know, the system. So they're they're ABC, and so

1535
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see if they have they've got a

1536
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: live stream on ABC, So you might have to download

1537
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: like the Hulu and you know, because Hulu is is

1538
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: apparently associated with ABC, I guess, uh, so you can

1539
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: download that and maybe get that channel. The other thing,

1540
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this in my newsletter at rich on

1541
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: tech dot tv last week, there's this website called TV

1542
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: Garden TV dot Garden, and if you go on there,

1543
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: you can basically find TV stations live from all over

1544
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: the world. And this is not a great They're not

1545
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: like this is not like a legal site. I mean,

1546
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: there's plenty of those out there. I'm not going to

1547
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: mention them here on the air, but this one is

1548
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: basically playing by the rules, and it's just finding all

1549
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: of the live streams that are available online that are

1550
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: free and open and available to everyone, and then organizing

1551
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: them so you can find live streams from almost every

1552
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: country in the world. I mean, it's just wild TV

1553
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 1: dot Garden. If you want to watch live TV in Finland.

1554
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: I just pulled that up. And if you have a

1555
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: specific channel you want to watch, so let's just say

1556
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: we wanted to watch the WABC in New York, all right,

1557
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: don't see that one on there. But again, you can

1558
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: just search for those channels as well. You can browse,

1559
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: but they have a ton I've never seen so many

1560
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: channels in one place, and it's very well done. Websites

1561
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: clean as far as I can tell. There's not a

1562
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 1: ton of ads on there. So you can search United

1563
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: States and they've got just a whole bunch they've got.

1564
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at the ABC affiliates they have here,

1565
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: just so many local affiliates here. But I think that's

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: probably the best way to do it.

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01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: Mark.

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01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: You may find that you can cancel your dish network

1569
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: altogether once you get on these streaming apps. It's everything,

1570
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: it's all the rules are being rewritten right now, right

1571
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to broadcast and streaming, and so everyone's

1572
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: trying things in slightly different ways. But if you look

1573
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: hard enough, you can probably find a lot of what

1574
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: you want to get through these services. Just depends how

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01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: they're doing it. All right, good question, Mark, Thanks for

1576
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: calling today in Montana. I got to make my way

1577
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: out there one day. I've never been, but big sky country,

1578
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: I just want to. I remember as a kid one

1579
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: time being in the woods upstate New York, Lake George,

1580
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: where I grew up, going and just looking up at

1581
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: the sky one time, and the entire sky was filled

1582
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: with stars, like I'd never seen more stars in my life.

1583
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 1: And I've been wanting to recreate that moment in my

1584
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: adult life, and I think like Montana.

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01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: Might be the place to do it.

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01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one O one eighty eight seven four

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: two four one zero one more rich On Tech right

1588
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: after this, Welcome back to rich On Tech. All right,

1589
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: now we'll get to uh Bruce and Pacific Grove. Bruce

1590
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: wrote in about the ghost styling caller we had earlier.

1591
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: Woman called in said that her phone, her iPhone, was

1592
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: dialing people all the time, her daughter, other folks, and

1593
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: through no intervention of her own, Like the phone was

1594
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: just sitting there and it would just dial people. And

1595
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: she said it was the last three phones she's had,

1596
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: which is pretty wild. Anyway, I give her a couple

1597
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 1: of options. Bruce and Pacific Grove rites, and I was

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01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: so glad you mentioned the screenlock. I bet she won't

1599
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: set it to thirty seconds because one of her kids

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01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: probably changed it years ago and she's used to it

1601
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: staying on. She might also not have password protection either. Yeah,

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01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: those are two things I've noticed. Some people do not

1603
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: put password protection on their phone, and they also set

1604
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: their screenlock to be way longer than it should be

1605
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 1: by the way, that burns up your battery too. Bruce says,

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01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: a case really is important. A portfolio style case that

1607
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: closes can help stop these kinds of issues. Sweat, certain

1608
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: fabrics or even just movement can accidentally activate the screen.

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01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,480
Speaker 1: I tell people to try wrapping their phone in newspaper

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01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: for a week. Most of the time the ghost dialing stops.

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01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: For folks who don't like a screen lock or a password,

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01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: a physical fix like a closing case is often the

1613
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: best solution. Now, I can't be on the radio here

1614
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: and tell you not to have a password on your

1615
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: phone or a passcode, because that is in this day

1616
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: and age. Your phone holds everything. So if you don't

1617
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: have a passcode, you got to get one on your phone.

1618
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Use face ID, use the fingerprint, use a passcode. You

1619
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: absolutely must have one on there because there is no

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01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: excuse at this point.

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01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 2: Thanks for the email, Bruce.

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01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to Kermer in Sun City.

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01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: You're on with Rich.

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01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 12: Hello, Rich, Yeah, Hi, oh you Okay, what happened is

1625
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 12: I bought.

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01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 9: A not bout but I got a router from a

1627
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 9: new router from a Horizon Look. And I've been trying

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01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 9: to download the the Wi Fi to my phone, my

1629
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 9: wife's phone and to my phone, and uh, but it's not.

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01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 9: Every time I put the the password in and it

1631
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 9: goes in, it says no Internet. But I'm not having

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 9: problems with that. When I loaded the wireless uh wify

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 9: to the printer, to the to both of my printers

1634
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 9: and to my computer and uh and and so it's

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01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 9: not allowed me to be able to get on to

1636
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 9: my am I Alexa, nor am I uh any of

1637
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 9: my electronics.

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01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh it's so are these phones a little bit older?

1639
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 12: As a matter of fact, both of my I fifteen.

1640
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: Really interesting Okay, Well, Typically when there are issues with

1641
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Internet connections like this, and some devices are connecting, some

1642
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: devices are not, it's usually a matter of the network

1643
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: that you're using, whether it's two point four gigaherts or

1644
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: five gigaherts, and so I'm guessing that this router is

1645
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: set up to either have one network or the other

1646
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: and not both, because the fact that the printer is

1647
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: connecting that tells me that it might be using the

1648
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: older network. Is this an older printer?

1649
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 12: No, they they're they're pretty pretty new printers.

1650
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 4: All right.

1651
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: Well, Kermer, sounds like you've got everything new, which I like. Okay,

1652
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: So is this one of those Verizon like hotspot kind

1653
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,440
Speaker 1: of things like the home Internet or is it a Verizon.

1654
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: Like files Okay?

1655
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: So if you this is just a suggestion, but have

1656
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: you looked at the internet the Wi Fi settings on

1657
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: the device itself, Like, have you gone into the settings?

1658
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 9: Yes, I've gone into the setting this way, I start,

1659
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 9: and then what if I get through them and I

1660
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 9: put in the you know, the the carrier's name okay,

1661
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 9: and the passwords?

1662
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: Okay?

1663
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 9: So I think again, that's at that point that it

1664
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 9: goes through the Okay.

1665
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: Now here's my other question.

1666
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: Is this a network username and password you've been using

1667
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: in the past, No.

1668
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 12: It's not, okay. As a matter of fact, is it's

1669
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 12: new with the router?

1670
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: It is new with the router? Okay?

1671
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: Uh, well, all this sounds very mysterious to me. But

1672
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: what I would do is on the bottom of that

1673
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: router there is some instructions on how to access these

1674
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: settings of that actual router. So if you if you

1675
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: flip that router over, there's usually like a code on

1676
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: there that's like one nine eight dot or one nine

1677
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: two one six eight something like that, and you can

1678
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: type that in from your web browser. You might want

1679
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: to connect to this broute this uh, this router manually,

1680
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: like connect it with a cable from your computer, because

1681
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: if you're doing any changes to the Wi Fi, you

1682
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: will lose that Wi Fi connection during the changes. So

1683
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: it's probably best to plug into this thing. But then

1684
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna log in and it's gonna give you all

1685
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: of the settings for that Verizon router, sort of the

1686
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: back end settings. It's going to tell you which networks

1687
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 1: it's broadcasting on. You're gonna be able to change the

1688
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: channel that it's broadcasting on, the Wi Fi network, name, password,

1689
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. I'm guessing you're just using the

1690
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: default Wi Fi name and password. I would just take

1691
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: a look at those settings and see if there's anything

1692
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: in there that says compatibility mode or maximum compatibility or

1693
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: two point four versus five gigahertz, and if it gives

1694
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: you the option to have both networks, what's that versus that? Yeah,

1695
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: because that's usually where these problems happen. I mean, it's

1696
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: very strange. So when Verizon this is sort of a

1697
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: self install, Huh, they didn't come to your house to

1698
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 1: help you with this.

1699
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the problem there.

1700
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: These companies are doing these self installs where I'm wondering.

1701
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: The other thing you might do before you try anything

1702
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: is just find the reset button on this router and

1703
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 1: press and hold it in and reset it back to

1704
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: factory and see if that helps and reconnect your devices.

1705
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: I would do that before you kind of mess with

1706
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: any of these settings, because you know these settings you

1707
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: can change if you know what you're doing, But if

1708
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing, you could mess some

1709
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: stuff up and then next thing you know, nothing's gonna connect.

1710
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: So I might just press the reset button on there,

1711
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: get it all back to factory, see if your stuff connects.

1712
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 2: If it doesn't, then delve into those settings.

1713
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: But you might have to have someone from Verizon guide

1714
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,759
Speaker 1: you through this, because those devices should absolutely be connecting

1715
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: all right.

1716
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: Coming up next we're gonna talk to.

1717
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: Harry Campbell, founder of the Ride Share Guy, right here

1718
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: on rich On Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology. The

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01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: website for the show richon Tech dot TV. If you

1721
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: heard me mention something over the past couple of hours

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01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: or minutes, whatever, go to the website rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. It is all right there. This is episode

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01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: one nineteen. I take great show notes. Everything is linked

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01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 1: up right there. Joining me now is Harry Campbell, founder

1726
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: of the Ride Share Guy, to break down the latest

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01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: in this world of the gig economy.

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01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: Harry, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me on

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01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: rich So tell me about.

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Speaker 1: The Ride Share Guy. Where did that come from? Why

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01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: did you start covering this stuff?

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01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 17: I actually started driving for both Uber and Lyft about

1734
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 17: eleven years ago now, so it's been a while, but

1735
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 17: I was actually I used to work a full time

1736
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 17: as an aerospace engineer for Boeing and had a few

1737
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 17: side hustles, and driving for Uber and Lyft was one

1738
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 17: of them. So enjoyed it a ton and pretty quickly

1739
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 17: realized that you know, there really isn't a boss, which

1740
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 17: is great, but there's also not a lot of training,

1741
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 17: there's not a lot of community. So that's what we

1742
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 17: went out to create with the ride share guys. So

1743
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 17: we have a ton of content on YouTube and social

1744
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 17: media and website and articles that basically helps drivers make

1745
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 17: more money. Interviews with drivers, interviews with folks at the company,

1746
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 17: basically anything Uber and Lyft driving. You'll find us on

1747
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 17: some box on the internet now these days talking about it.

1748
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: So the rideshare guide dot com, that's where it's all there.

1749
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: You've got your newsletter, you've got your YouTube channel. I mean,

1750
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: you're pretty active on all all this stuff. So you've

1751
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: watched this world evolve. But here's the thing. The biggest

1752
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: evolution right now is the companies that built this business

1753
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: are now trying to edge out all the folks that

1754
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: drive for them by making robotaxis.

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01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,919
Speaker 17: Yeah, so you know, if you're here in Los Angeles

1756
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 17: or San Francisco, Phoenix, Austin, you may have seen waimos

1757
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 17: on the road. So the company just announced that they're

1758
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 17: doing two hundred and fifty thousand tricks per week in

1759
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,520
Speaker 17: those four cities. So you know, honestly, it's still they

1760
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 17: might seem like they're prevalent, but they are still a

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01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 17: pretty small percentage. I mean, Uber alone does millions of

1762
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 17: rides a day in the United States, and that's per day,

1763
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 17: while weymo's doing two undred fifty thousand per week in

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01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 17: four cities. So it's still a very small percentage overall.

1765
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 17: But it is an interesting time for drivers because obviously,

1766
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 17: as you mentioned, you know, they've been kind of the

1767
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 17: main workhorse Uber for the past ten to eleven years.

1768
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 17: And now, as you might imagine, drive human drivers are

1769
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 17: not big fans they might you know, that's putting it gently.

1770
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 17: They're not big fans of avs, and so, you know,

1771
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 17: you see them on the roads and you see the

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 17: companies sort of celebrating av So I think it's kind

1773
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 17: of a tough feeling for drivers. But at the same time,

1774
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 17: I don't think avs are having a big negative impact

1775
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 17: on their earnings just yet.

1776
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: Av Autonomous vehicle, Yeah, autonomous vehicles. So we know Weimo

1777
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 1: is owned by Google, so or Alphabet, which is the

1778
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 1: same company as Google. Are Uber and Lyft also dabbling

1779
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 1: in self driving.

1780
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 17: So Uber and Lyft don't own any self driving companies,

1781
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 17: but they have partnered with a number of companies so

1782
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 17: Uber for example, I think they're partnered with sixteen or

1783
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 17: seventeen different autonomous vehicle companies from everything from doing rides

1784
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 17: to food delivery and delivery robots and delivery vehicles that

1785
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 17: are autonomous. So Uber is doing a lot. Lift is

1786
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 17: also partnered with a company called May Mobility. Uber is

1787
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 17: also partnered with and then the big partnership that Uber

1788
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 17: has on the autonomous vehicle site is with Weimo. So

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01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 17: in Austin, for example, you can only call a weimo

1790
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 17: on Uber. The product is called Weimo on Uber. So

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01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 17: if you want a Weaimo and you're in Austin, you

1792
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 17: have to be on the Uber app and opt into

1793
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 17: getting waymo's and then you can get a Weimo that

1794
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 17: way if there's one available, versus somewhere like Los Angeles,

1795
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 17: where the only way to get one in Los Angeles

1796
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 17: is through the weimo app.

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01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: So what's it like to catch a ride in a Weaimo.

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01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: You've taken these things, you know, as a very recently Huh.

1799
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean I've probably taken a couple dozen rides

1800
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 17: in Los Angeles and San Francisco now over the past

1801
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 17: six to twelve months. And you know, honestly, if I

1802
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 17: put my customer hat on, you know, from the rideshare

1803
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 17: guy perspective, we may not be big fans of Waimo's,

1804
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 17: but if I put my normal customer hat on, I'm

1805
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 17: a big fan of Weimo. It's really it is a

1806
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 17: great product. You're sitting in the back of a seventy

1807
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 17: five thousand dollars Jaguar, so right off the bat, it's

1808
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 17: a pretty nice car. And then the Weaimo driver, as

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01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 17: they like to call it, I think, is pretty good.

1810
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:50,759
Speaker 17: It's pretty smooth.

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01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 17: I took my wife in one out to dinner, and

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01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 17: you know, she was a little nervous at first, but

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01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 17: probably by the end of ten fifteen minutes, she was

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01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 17: pretty comfortable. Just the other night, I took probably my

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01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 17: longest WAYMO yet. I took a seventy five minute Waimo

1817
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 17: during rush hour traffic from my house in Beverly Wood

1818
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 17: all the way to Intuit Dome to watch Clippers win games.

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01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 17: Game what was that game five? Game six? So that

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01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 17: was the longest ride. Yeah, Game six, that was the

1821
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 17: longest ride I've taken so far, and this was very

1822
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 17: heavy rush hour. You know, the folks that are in

1823
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 17: Los Angeles. They know driving south at five PM is

1824
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 17: pretty tough, and you know, I was play. I feel

1825
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 17: like the Waimo driver has actually gotten a lot better.

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01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 17: It's still very safe. There were a couple of yellow

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01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 17: lights where it actually if a human was driving, I

1828
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 17: think they probably would I probably would have gone through,

1829
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 17: to be honest, but the Waimo stops. And then there

1830
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 17: are a couple of times where they're making an unprotected

1831
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 17: left turn where it didn't wait too passively. It was

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01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 17: sort of a good mix where it kind of edged

1833
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 17: out and when it saw a little bit of an opening,

1834
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 17: it went. But if it would have been too passive,

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01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 17: we would have never been able to make the left turn.

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01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 17: So I was kind of impressed over that seventy five

1837
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 17: minute period.

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01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: So I was driving back from a shoot in Venice

1839
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: the other day and there was a Weimo. You know,

1840
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: these weymos are all over kind of the west side

1841
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, and I was coming out of an

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01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: alleyway and there's two waymos, and I realized the thing

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01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't do. I kept waving the weimo to go.

1844
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: I was like go, Like that was just my human instinct,

1845
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: and I realized I was like, wait, And I wondered

1846
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 1: for a bit if Weaimo has built this into their

1847
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: camera system to identify when a human is saying like

1848
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, which you know, any other human

1849
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: would recognize, but if Waimo is listening, they need to

1850
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: do that. Because I kept waving this thing and it

1851
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: was just it was like a Wild West standoff because

1852
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: I couldn't make the left, it wouldn't go ahead of

1853
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: me because it was all very congested. So I thought

1854
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 1: that was pretty ironic. People are cracking up there like

1855
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: this is a standoff with these vehicles.

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01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, so definitely, the waymos aren't perfect yet, and I'm

1857
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 17: not sure if the waymos can react to human gestures.

1858
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 17: It sounds like maybe they can't. And you know, this

1859
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 17: is one thing I noticed on my long ride the

1860
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 17: other night is that there were a couple of times where,

1861
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 17: you know, it was pretty heavy traffic and I almost

1862
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 17: I almost rolled down my window and started waving to

1863
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 17: people to let us in, you know, because I think

1864
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 17: there is I do think they need to build upon,

1865
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 17: you know, that sort of human gestures or you know,

1866
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 17: the waving or letting people in. And so I still

1867
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 17: think that there's some I wouldn't call them safety kinks,

1868
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 17: but sort of like human behavioral driving kinks that they

1869
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 17: need to work out that I think, honestly, are going

1870
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 17: to be a little bit tricky. And I think the

1871
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 17: other thing too that you know, honestly, I see when

1872
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 17: I'm out there driving, I feel like, since it's not

1873
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 17: an actual human driver, I might I'm not as friendly

1874
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 17: to them. I might not let them in front of me,

1875
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 17: or you know, I might try to go in front

1876
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 17: of them. And I know a lot of folks have

1877
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 17: commented that to me also, and I'm not afraid to

1878
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 17: admit it, but I think, you know, maybe we won't

1879
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 17: treat them the same as a human driver.

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01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting aspect. How do you think the

1881
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Waimo driver, the auto driver compares to the Tesla Tesla autopilot,

1882
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: which I feel like has gotten much much better in

1883
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: recent months.

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01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 17: Yeah. Well, luckily, I've owned a Tesla for quite a

1885
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 17: few years now, and I subscribe to the monthly full

1886
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 17: self driving product, which you know isn't as good as

1887
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 17: way Mo's because you know, in my opinion, I guess

1888
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 17: you would say, but I do think that it has

1889
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 17: gotten a lot better, and you know, I've been thinking

1890
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 17: about getting a new car lately, and honestly, I don't

1891
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 17: know if I could leave Tesla. Once you get used

1892
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 17: to that full self driving, you know, just around town,

1893
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 17: driving the Mammoth, driving the Vegas from La, you know,

1894
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 17: four or five hours, it's quite nice to just be

1895
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 17: able to put the full self driving mode on and

1896
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 17: take phone calls or listen to a podcast. And I

1897
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 17: think you kind of Even My wife has a nice

1898
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 17: luxury car, and when I'm in her car, you know,

1899
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 17: the the cruise of the adaptive cruise control and the similar.

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01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 17: You know, Tesla teachers are not even close. You know,

1901
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 17: it'll pop out of a lane and it's really not

1902
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 17: nearly as good. So I do think that Tesla, you know,

1903
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 17: they're they're making a lot of noise about maybe launching

1904
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 17: a robo taxi service, But I don't think I personally

1905
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 17: would sit in the back of one yet, but you know,

1906
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 17: they might be close.

1907
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: Let's kind of shift gears to some of this Uber

1908
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: and Lyft. Is it still a good time to start

1909
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: driving for these companies, even though we're looking at this

1910
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: robotaxi future.

1911
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, you know, like I said earlier, I mean,

1912
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 17: we did a poll on our YouTube channel, and thirty

1913
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 17: percent of drivers human drivers actually said they're extremely worried

1914
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 17: about av So it's definitely a top issue for drivers

1915
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 17: out there. But what I will say is the impact

1916
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 17: on earnings has been pretty minimal so far. There's a

1917
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 17: couple data companies. One that comes to mind called grid Wise.

1918
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 17: They released a report saying that it was still less

1919
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 17: than five percent. You know, driver's earnings aren't off by

1920
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 17: more than a few percent, so I and that's sort

1921
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 17: of what we're hearing from drivers to Even though it does,

1922
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 17: you know, it's not great because it's more competition, more

1923
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 17: robo competition. I still think the actual earnings profile and

1924
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 17: how much you can make and what the experience as

1925
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 17: a driver is like hasn't changed. And you know, I

1926
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 17: guess I'm a little biased because I have a whole

1927
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 17: website and business dedicated to driving and working in the

1928
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 17: gig economy. But I think it's always a great time

1929
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 17: for anyone and everyone, just because of the flexibility and

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01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 17: the quick access. I mean, I don't think a lot

1931
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 17: of people even know that you can be approved to

1932
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 17: deliver food with Uber Eats or DoorDash in a day

1933
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 17: or two or less, you can be approved to go

1934
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 17: out and drive people in a few days. All of

1935
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 17: the companies now have a product where you go out

1936
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 17: and drive and after every single trip you can actually

1937
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 17: cash out the money instantly to your bank account. So

1938
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 17: if you need one hundred dollars tomorrow to drive, you

1939
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 17: could go sign up to you know, deliver with Uber Eats,

1940
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 17: be approved by tomorrow morning, work four or five hours,

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Speaker 17: and then have that money basically in your bank account

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Speaker 17: at the end of your shift. So I think that

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Speaker 17: flexibility and kind of quick access. You know, obviously, like

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Speaker 17: any job, there are complaints and positives and negatives, but

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Speaker 17: I do think that flexibility is really quite unmatched in

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Speaker 17: you know, comparative areas of work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting here in La people came to

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Speaker 1: town to be actors and they would you know, wait tables.

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Speaker 1: And with this gig economy, I mean it's quite incredible

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Speaker 1: that you can be your own boss on your own time.

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Speaker 1: That is a major paradigm shift for the entire world.

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Speaker 1: Now by the way people are becoming influencers and things,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the don't want to be actors anymore, but

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Speaker 1: it's still the world that this is creative for people

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Speaker 1: to make money on their time and flexibility is quite

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Speaker 1: incredible to me. Is one of these better than the other?

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Speaker 1: Final word, Uber lift. Any advantage to going with either

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Speaker 1: one or the other for as a consumer or a driver.

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Speaker 17: Well, I'd say for a driver, I mean Uber is

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Speaker 17: typically busier, so you'll make more money. But we always

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Speaker 17: recommend to drivers that they sign up for both services,

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Speaker 17: so Uber and Lyft or door dash and Uber eats,

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Speaker 17: just because there's a big advantage if you have both

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Speaker 17: at if it's slow, you can turn both apps on

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Speaker 17: and get a ride. And that's kind of what we

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Speaker 17: tell customers too. You know, a lot of people default

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Speaker 17: to Uber, but I mean a lot of times. Now

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Speaker 17: I'm comparing Uber, Lyft, and weimo here in Los Angeles

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Speaker 17: to see where I can get the best bang for

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Speaker 17: my bucks. So it only takes a few seconds, and

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Speaker 17: you know, you can kind of save a lot or

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Speaker 17: maybe earn a little extra as a driver if you

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Speaker 17: kind of go with that multi app strategy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Harry Campbell, the rideshare guy dot com, how's

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Speaker 1: the newsletter going good?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, We've got a new newsletter called the Driver List Digest.

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Speaker 17: So that's sort of where we're covering all things autonomy

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Speaker 17: and ride share and you know, trying to stay up

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Speaker 17: to date in all the latest with Wimo and other

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Speaker 17: companies like Zooks. So it's definitely a lot a lot

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Speaker 17: going on in an exciting time.

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Speaker 1: All right, this was an exciting conversation. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: me today. I really appreciate it. Thanks rich all right,

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Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna get through a couple more news items,

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Speaker 1: including the new eyeball scanning ID system from the guy

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Speaker 1: who started chat GBT. Plus we're going to open up

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Speaker 1: the feedbag coming up on rich on Tech. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to rich On Tech. A couple of headlines to get

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Speaker 1: through before we open up the feedbag. This is an

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Speaker 1: interesting one. Sam Altman, you know him from chat ebt.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the founders there of open ai, and

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Speaker 1: he has a new identity platform called world formerly world Coin,

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Speaker 1: and it's rolling out. It uses a device called an

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Speaker 1: orb to scan your eyeball and basically register your iris

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Speaker 1: and then make sure you're a human not a bot.

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Speaker 1: So they've got these scanners in various places around the

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Speaker 1: nation Atlanta, Austin, La Miami, Nashville, San Francisco, and then

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Speaker 1: some Razor retail stores, and it's basically a verification process

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Speaker 1: for the twenty first century. So it's to make sure

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Speaker 1: that you are a human and not a bot when

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Speaker 1: you're interacting with people both online and in real life.

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Speaker 1: They came out with this little device that looks like

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Speaker 1: a smartphone and you can use it to kind of

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Speaker 1: almost take a picture of someone and verify again that

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Speaker 1: they are human. It kind of links up with the

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Speaker 1: data in their database. So of course a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think this is kind of strange, but if you

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Speaker 1: think about it, you're going to be interacting with a

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Speaker 1: lot more people in the future online and in real

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Speaker 1: life that may resemble humans but are robots or bots,

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Speaker 1: and you got to figure out a way to like

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Speaker 1: make sure this is a real person. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: where this goes. They're giving you. I think it's like

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of forty crypto dollars if you scan your

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Speaker 1: eye eyeballs right now, I may do it.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: When I was in South Korea like two years ago,

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Speaker 1: this was a thing that was just started and they

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Speaker 1: had one of the orbs there to scan. You didn't

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Speaker 1: do it there. Let's see, AI companions could be harmful

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Speaker 1: for teenagers. Common Sense Media says serious risks are tied

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Speaker 1: to social AI chatbots used by teens from companies like Character,

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Speaker 1: Ai Replica, and know Me. They often pretend to be real,

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Speaker 1: claiming to eat, sleep, or fuel emotions. Some bots discourage

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Speaker 1: users from listening to friends or family, prioritizing the emotional

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Speaker 1: attachment to the AI. Report says these AI friends could

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Speaker 1: be dangerous and give harmful or illegal advice. They also

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Speaker 1: engaged in sexually explicit content even with guardrails on. Basically,

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Speaker 1: don't let your kids play with these things under eighteen.

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Speaker 1: If your kids says they're friends with an AI, tell

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Speaker 1: them just burn the whole router down. Just don't let them.

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Speaker 1: We've heard stories. We've heard stories where bad things have

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Speaker 1: happened to kids because of these things. Starbucks has opened

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Speaker 1: its first three D printed store in the US Brownsville, Texas,

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Speaker 1: to drive through only. Was built by a robotic arm,

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Speaker 1: pouring concrete layer by layer, almost like you know, like

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Speaker 1: a three D printer. If you look at it looks

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Speaker 1: normal until you get up close. It's got like the

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Speaker 1: ridges that a three D printed item might have, but

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Speaker 1: it's the walls so we may see more of this

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Speaker 1: we're going to see. Obviously, this is more expensive than

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Speaker 1: traditional stores at this point, but of course they're just

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Speaker 1: testing to see if it's more efficient. If it lasts,

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Speaker 1: how they can make efficiencies there. But kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: I did a story with a three D printed house

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Speaker 1: one time. One of the walls was three D printed,

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Speaker 1: and it's I mean, look, they're they're experimenting with this stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's open up the feedbag. Clovis from Florida

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Speaker 1: writes in I've been listening to your show for a

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Speaker 1: while and I love it. I just wanted to point

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Speaker 1: out something about the metagal life. Is they send everything

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Speaker 1: you see or hear to Facebook. Not necessarily true. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to the show, but that's not necessarily true.

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Speaker 1: But they did change their privacy policy very recently April

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, and they did enable the wake word by default. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Meta is now on by default, which means photos, videos,

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Speaker 1: and voice commands can be analyzed by Meta AI for training.

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Speaker 1: There's no more option to opt out of voice recording storage,

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Speaker 1: which means if you use your voice to record stuff

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Speaker 1: and give commands to these glasses, Meta can keep this

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Speaker 1: for up to a year.

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Speaker 2: To help improve their products.

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Speaker 1: And yes, photos and videos may be used for AI training,

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Speaker 1: of course, but not everything you hear or see. It's

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Speaker 1: just when you activate the AI to take a picture

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Speaker 1: and analyze it, they will send that to Meta for

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Speaker 1: potential further analysis. So but yeah, I mean you're wearing

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Speaker 1: a pair of glasses that literally connect to Facebook. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be using a lot of what you you

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Speaker 1: see and hear for their products and services. Why do

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Speaker 1: you think the METAAI is so good? It's been trained

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Speaker 1: on ten years more than ten years worth of Instagram

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Speaker 1: posts and Facebook posts, let's see. Steve from Semi Valley

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Speaker 1: writes in I've been watching and following you for a while.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the knowledge.

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Speaker 1: I just got an email from McAfee about protecting against

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Speaker 1: email scams. But it requires giving them access to my

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Speaker 1: Google account. Is that necessary? How much does Google protect

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Speaker 1: our email already? It feels like we're giving too much

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Speaker 1: access to everything these days. My take, I would not

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Speaker 1: do this. Gmail and Chrome do a great job of

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Speaker 1: flagging malicious links if you try to visit one. I

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Speaker 1: would not give a third party app like this full

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Speaker 1: access to your Gmail account. No way, don't need to

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Speaker 1: do that. Let's see David and Sherman Oaks says it

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Speaker 1: may be of interest that AT and T Wireless is

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Speaker 1: terminating their email to Text portal. This is the feature

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Speaker 1: where you can send an email to the cellular number

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Speaker 1: at text dot att dot com or MMS dot att.

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Speaker 1: Their ending is I believe on May sometime in May.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we've talked about that on the show. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna end. Let's see here. Uh Neil from Ohio says

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed your newsletter. The new Roku models look great.

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Speaker 1: I have the top end stick model, but it needed

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Speaker 1: frequent reboots. Hopefully that's been fixed with a new low

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Speaker 1: power design. We'll run cooler. Three of our TVs use

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Speaker 1: the Express four K plus as our family standard. The

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Speaker 1: fourth is a Roku TV. Hope you had a great trip.

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Speaker 1: And Jay from Ohio says rich I love listening to Leo.

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Speaker 1: I was sad when you retired, but you are freaking awesome.

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Speaker 2: Way to go.

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Speaker 1: I mostly listen while doing chores and sometimes want to

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Speaker 1: re listen to a segment at my desk. Could you

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Speaker 1: put the episode number or the date in the podcast title?

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Speaker 1: That would make it easier to search for a specific episode.

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Speaker 1: Jay already done made that change last week, so look

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Speaker 1: in the podcast feed that's.

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Speaker 2: Going to do it.

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Speaker 1: For this episode of the show. Rich on tech dot tv.

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Speaker 1: For links, find me on social media at rich on tech.

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Speaker 1: Next week, we'll talk social media and building a positive

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Speaker 1: online reputation for parents and students. Thanks to everyone who

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Speaker 1: makes this show possible.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you

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Speaker 2: real soon