WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: How D-Line Shakes Out

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another edition of The Break live from Oxnard, California.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a Wednesday CRISP morning, July thirty first, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot to talk about today. As we

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<v Speaker 1>usually do, will start off with a little blanket coverage

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<v Speaker 1>to get into some injuries, um and maybe a defection,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We'll see what's happening with Chris Westry

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<v Speaker 1>and then talk a little bit about the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go a little in depth on the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>line today, talk about the defensive tackles and the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>ends on this team. How's everybody feeling this morning? Great? Awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Let's jump right in. It is an off day

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<v Speaker 1>for the team, so they will not be practicing today,

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<v Speaker 1>not for us, never an off day for us, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we will so they will, they will resume practices

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow normal time, but today they get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of rest time heading into the weekend when, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, there will be a scrimmage Blue White scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you guys want to check that out, we

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<v Speaker 1>will actually stream it live across all of our platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com, the Cowboys Mobile app, Connect, the

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<v Speaker 1>TV app, and for those back in Dallas, will actually

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<v Speaker 1>be airing on CBS eleven as well, so make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you check that out. Let's get started with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of blanket coverage here first, as we do every day,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you guys a statement that will be

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<v Speaker 1>a blank you feel in the blank. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the first statement. Sean Lee misspracticed for the second day

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<v Speaker 1>due to a knee injury. My concern level is blank.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that left day. It's Sean Lee, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just is what it is. I'm not concerned for

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<v Speaker 1>two reasons. One because it's it's it seems like it's minor,

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<v Speaker 1>and two because Sean Lee doesn't mean to this defensive

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<v Speaker 1>success what he did even two years ago. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I Sean Lee one of the best Cowboys players in

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<v Speaker 1>recent memory. I think the world of him as a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, would we be freaking out if Damien

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson and tweaked his knee? You know, I mean so

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<v Speaker 1>probably not. So that's kind of how I feel. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you would think. I mean personally, I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>be used to this by now, but I'm not. It

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<v Speaker 1>still hurts me because I thought, Okay, he he was

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<v Speaker 1>looking good. He's put on some muscle weight on him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and his new role. I was expecting this

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<v Speaker 1>to actually help him kind of maintain his health. And

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<v Speaker 1>what they've been doing here isn't too much. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we're not at that level where we had like

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<v Speaker 1>a full week of padded practice yet. So it's still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a little bit of disappointment. It's not surprising,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I love the guy and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him on the field. Nick not concerned, well

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<v Speaker 1>at all. They've said it best. He doesn't. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean as much to the defense. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you say, if you say you had a hangnail out here,

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<v Speaker 1>the trainers will hold you out, you know, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing against them. It's this is the time of year

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you're you're not, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>hurt anything in a major way. So where Sean Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is precautionary, So I don't think it's that big

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<v Speaker 1>a deal, all right. Statement number two, the most row

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<v Speaker 1>some injury on this team is blank Nick, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say Travis Frederick. Even though he's not he's been cleared,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna still think that is probably the one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why he's not just going right in

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all the you know, one on ones and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So I don't know if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call it an injury or not, but they're definitely

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<v Speaker 1>being cautious with it, and I think that that he

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<v Speaker 1>matters a lot to this team. Now. I do think

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Looney did a nice job and we'll do a

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<v Speaker 1>nice job as a backup, but I think Frederick takes

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<v Speaker 1>it to another level. So I'm not worried about any

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<v Speaker 1>of the other injuries so much. That one's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's worth pointing out too. It's so easy

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<v Speaker 1>to forget because you know, he came back from gian

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<v Speaker 1>bare and it's this it's a great story, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also had shoulder surgery and he actually said that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been involved in the one on ones. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not so much because of the GBS, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're being cautious with a veteran who had shoulder surgery

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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason, so I mean that's something to watch too.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the injury. So, Dave, most were some injury

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Are we we're calling Byron and DeMarcus injured. Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not practicing, yeah, because they're not back from their injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not back from their surgeries. They're not back

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<v Speaker 1>from whatever ailed themself. I think of injuries as things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened since we got here. I'm saying, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's out right now, if you want me to rephrase,

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<v Speaker 1>okayout Byron Byron Jones, because like I just I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tank tanks Tank. He's had shoulder injuries for like half

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<v Speaker 1>of his career anyway, and he plays through it and

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<v Speaker 1>he's great. And also I just feel like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying he should like wrap that dude in bubble rap,

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<v Speaker 1>but like if they needed him out there in a week,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet he could do it. That's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel. Whereas Byron, I know he was skateboarding around.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like he's pretty good, but it's a hip

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a corner and that's everything to a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I want to I want him to

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<v Speaker 1>get some work out here. I hope that he does. So. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually talk to him a little bit about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that he eats specs to get some

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<v Speaker 1>work in Oxnard. Awesome. And I actually was watching him

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<v Speaker 1>doing some drills and I just thought, Okay, this is July.

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<v Speaker 1>We care about him playing in September, not even in August. Yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a whole full month. I'm not panicking. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not worried he'll come back. Yeah, I would have said Travis,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now Joe Looney looks like a badass, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that concerned. But I would go with the

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Lawrence, I you know right now, Yes you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have Randy Gregory, Robert Quinn. It was a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all had high expect It's still early,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had, at least me having expectations of when

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<v Speaker 1>he first came out here and kind of show a

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<v Speaker 1>little more than what he's shown so far. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>went against Tyren Smith that's Tyron, but Ken Fleming, M

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's still he put up a battle there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't that impressive and tackle. We talked about him.

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<v Speaker 1>He walked out yesterday with an injury. Actually, what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>His back? Maybe heard taco he did, he did something

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<v Speaker 1>small to his back. But he came out for a

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<v Speaker 1>walk through last night. So like the position position wise

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<v Speaker 1>right now, UM, not that excited from what I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>so far. So I think DeMarcus Lawrence. I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>see him out there and see the combination of him

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<v Speaker 1>and Robert Quinn and see how that does. Person most

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be absent week one is amber most likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be out of all those guys that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that are injured right now, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you would say is most likely to be absent come

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<v Speaker 1>week one, Uh, he is injured and he will be suspended.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another guy that's looking at We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen with Tyron Crawford, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that is true, That is true. Um, shoot, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of the injured guys. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you didn't say injured guys. I just said of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys on this team most likely to everybody Week one,

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<v Speaker 1>get back to me, all right, Dave ze Zeke, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's He's the guy that's most likely

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<v Speaker 1>because if he wants to make it, like you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been told by people that are that know the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say, he doesn't have any leverage, has no leverage. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're right right now, But don't play in that

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<v Speaker 1>game and get beat by the Giants who you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>lose to at home too, and then we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leverage it is. I still don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>has leverage at that point. Okay, well, because Berry just

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<v Speaker 1>said this is this is kind of an all end season.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I get lose games, but how long is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to see because that's the point I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the problem with with the scenario is this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a situation where him sitting out games actually

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<v Speaker 1>helps him because sitting out games, the Cowboys will own

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<v Speaker 1>his rights for three seasons. He's not He's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit for three years. I disagree, though, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's about playing, it's about winning the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl and trying to get to that goal. And what

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<v Speaker 1>is that? How's that factor into him them owning his

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<v Speaker 1>rights for three years, because it's not about three years

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not coming out here, and it's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>three years this year. No, But the point, the point

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<v Speaker 1>is if they have his rights for three years, him

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in missing games is only hurting him. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>hurting it's not hurting anybody but him. Jerry. He thinks

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best football team he's got and so

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<v Speaker 1>if he's got a running back that's sitting there and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of holding this team hostage, then let's let's come

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<v Speaker 1>together like they're here. They're here, let's come together. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point. I don't think that a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>knows he can't play football but for this team for

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<v Speaker 1>three years is gonna miss games. That's the point. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the leverage to be able to sit because

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<v Speaker 1>in the situation with Levon Bell, he knew that he

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<v Speaker 1>could force their hand at some point because sitting out

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<v Speaker 1>this year, he knew he was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent after that. So him sitting for a year

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of or makes some sense because at

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<v Speaker 1>least he knows, no matter what, I will be a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent after this year. Ze can't say that for

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<v Speaker 1>three years. I just it's it's totally determined on his

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<v Speaker 1>how much is he willing to let the world burn, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's even even at his own costs, Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's absolutely like, f you pay me and he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to sit until Halloween, he can hurt the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>and make them real antsy to get a deal done.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right. In the long term, it only he

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<v Speaker 1>never gets that money back. He hurts his future earning value.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't go anywhere for three years, That's why. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I think the August sixth deadline means nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to him, because he's like they they're not. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere anyway, So who cares if I don't accrue

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<v Speaker 1>a year or toward free agency? So he can. He

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<v Speaker 1>definitely he has some leverage if he's really willing to

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<v Speaker 1>go all out, but that would mean missing anywhere between

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<v Speaker 1>one and maybe as many as like six or seven

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<v Speaker 1>game checks. And I don't know if he's willing to

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<v Speaker 1>take that step. And although we all agreed this is

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<v Speaker 1>a much better team with him on it, it could

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<v Speaker 1>backfire on him if they should happen to win those

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<v Speaker 1>first few games while he's out that then kills whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first three weeks of the season are set up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna go, if you're gonna if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to win without Zeke, you've got a great start

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you. Yeah, and that's what what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with with Pittsburgh. Then. Now they didn't make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got kind of hot early in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Was James Connor, Yeah, he was playing really well and

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<v Speaker 1>so he was like now towards the end, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he got then they definitely missed him, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>too late to do anything because Lebon had already made

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<v Speaker 1>his point at that point. But so I I, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's risky, but if if you lose, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're one and two and they've lost the game and

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris is rushing for forty eight yards on twelve

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<v Speaker 1>carries and all that stuff, like, yeah, he could he

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<v Speaker 1>has some leverage, but only if he fully commits to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think, honestly, this is the best leverage

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to have, right, I don't think, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I call it great leverage, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best he's gonna possibly have. He has them

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<v Speaker 1>in a position right now where this is probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best he's gonna This is as good as if he's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to commit to it. Yeah. Yeah. And also like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's who you talk to, Like if you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to guys that are kind of dealing with the salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap or maybe even Stephen Jones, who's looking big picture.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're talking to like Jerry Jones, or how about Jason,

0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Jason is the one that's looking just like like get him,

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<v Speaker 1>give him to me now I met him now, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's he's got some but he's gonna have to really

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<v Speaker 1>commit to it. Yeah, to answer your you didn't ask

0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.440
<v Speaker 1>me yet, But I'm not. I spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer wringing my hands about Byron and DeMarcus, But

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<v Speaker 1>now that I've seen him with my own eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got a firmer grasp on where they're at, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that worried about any of the guys right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, long way to go knock on wood, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know something's gonna happen to somebody. So but none

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<v Speaker 1>of the none of the real concerns right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think will not be there week one, So the big

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<v Speaker 1>injury hasn't happened yet, that's what he's saying. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>knock on wood. Yeah, but yeah, it happens. That stuff

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<v Speaker 1>happens at training camp. You just hope that they're any

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<v Speaker 1>major injuries, Like you're gonna get an injury. Somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt. Pretty though, there won't be anyone like carded

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<v Speaker 1>off the field today. Oh I'm glad. Yeah. I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say, no one will get hurt today, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>they're weird. Stuff happens all the time. I would say hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>just carted off the field. That's a good way to

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<v Speaker 1>put it. All right, let's move on. I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to real quickly just get an update on Chris west

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<v Speaker 1>Chris westree a little farther down the depth chart, but

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<v Speaker 1>reports yesterday with any misspractice due to a personal issue. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't sound like it didn't sound like he's around.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are you guys hearing about him and where

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<v Speaker 1>he is right now, and and if that really even

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<v Speaker 1>makes a huge difference for this team based upon what

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<v Speaker 1>they got at the cornerback position. I've been burned before

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<v Speaker 1>by saying what I think I know, and then Dave

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and says, well, actually, I don't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>for you, so fire. You know. The last thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we've kind of heard is and what the Cowboys were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a personal issues. He's dealing with some some he's

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<v Speaker 1>left the team right now for some personal reasons, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they expect him back, and Stephen Jones said they

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<v Speaker 1>expect him back, and Jason Garrett expect him back as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing to that is people that have seen

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<v Speaker 1>him leave for personal reasons had all his bags packed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I don't know what if he's

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<v Speaker 1>a heavy packer or not. I don't know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've got all his back packs. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this would not be the first time we've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>a player that, for personal reasons packed their bags and

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<v Speaker 1>left and then a few days later came back. It

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<v Speaker 1>played eight years, yeah exactly, so it happened. It happened, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Sol Beasley was dealing with stuff, and after

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<v Speaker 1>all those times, and we've done all these feature stories,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that ever came out exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Beasley left there was some personal stuff. He went home.

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<v Speaker 1>He never he never really said why, but but he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing really well, and so everyone was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>and he came back and he obviously had the career

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<v Speaker 1>that he had. Um Westy did not have such a

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<v Speaker 1>great first practice. Yeah, and you know was this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be one out of twenty though. Man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why he's leaving, but that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's to know if it's that or not. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see, we'll see if he comes back. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>a few over the years that you know, I remember here,

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen years ago was a guy named Andrew Davison's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good cornerback from the Jets. They Bill liked him,

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<v Speaker 1>Parcels liked him, and quit like third third day. So

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<v Speaker 1>it happens so well. But I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. We just know that it's personal reasons

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got a day here, so yeah, figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, we'll see if he comes back or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume it's a pretty tough adjustment a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times for these guys coming out of college programs

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<v Speaker 1>where most of them were among the best on their teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get here and they're among the I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say the worst, but they're certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>up there as far as a depth chart or the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of credibility that they have. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>has a day like he had the first day. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting to that is is difficult. Yeah. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. I could be wrong, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's one of those athletes that over the years

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<v Speaker 1>has just been said yes too because of look at him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um, but he never he said he had

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<v Speaker 1>never played receiver because he said his hands were terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that. He asked about playing basketball and he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't play basketball. And he's in Kentucky. I doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>play basketball. You know. They put him at corner and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you would think he'd be a safety. But

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<v Speaker 1>but so he's got a tough issue anyways, just being

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<v Speaker 1>a six four corner that they don't and playing for Richard.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Chris gets he's temper. He gets really into

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<v Speaker 1>the game and he will yell at you and so

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not that's yeh didn't happen get beaten? He

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<v Speaker 1>was He was like you're get out, getting out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think Chris just meant like on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline, but stream might have been like, where did

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<v Speaker 1>he tell me to lead that don't have to leave?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We're really speculating. No, it's and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope and if there's I'll just say this too. We're

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<v Speaker 1>making light of it. I don't know what the personal

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<v Speaker 1>issues are. They could be a lot deeper than can

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<v Speaker 1>you cover a wide receiver? Sure, and if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, we really don't know. We're speculating. And

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<v Speaker 1>hope he comes back, and hope he gets it going

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<v Speaker 1>and has a Cole Beasley type career. There are other

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<v Speaker 1>guys that this has happened to it well where they

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<v Speaker 1>leave or whatever reason, personal reasons, whatever the point is,

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<v Speaker 1>you hope he's back on tomorrow and back working in

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see how things go for him. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and take our first break. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back from break, I want to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line. We're gonna talk about the defensive tackles first,

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<v Speaker 1>getting some into some conversation of the depth of this group,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've got a lot of guys that sit behind

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly who those guys will become the final fifty

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<v Speaker 1>It is the second second of the Break, live from Opsdock, California.

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<v Speaker 1>It is day five. You've been out here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know something like that. Day five or so? Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>episode is if you count Thursday? If you count, Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you count, But I don't count that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the days that they actually started practice. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>so i'd be about day five here. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would be about if I slept here, I count it.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, well we're a week in then, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we only got two and a half more weeks, two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>three days or something. All right, so let's jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the defensive line. Um, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first with the defensive tackles. And here's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the way I look at this position. You got Belie

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<v Speaker 1>Collins and Antoine Woods as your starters. You got as backups,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Ross, Christian Covington, Tristan Hill, Daniel Wise, Shaquire Soto. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess give me kind of the the big picture

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<v Speaker 1>of what you think of this particularly this position, factoring

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<v Speaker 1>in the starters, the depth. What do you just think

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<v Speaker 1>about this position overall? I think you got some good players.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have a great player, but

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<v Speaker 1>then again, you can't have a great player at every spot, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the one position where I think is um

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<v Speaker 1>is concerning just because of a that reason right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think you have that badass that just takes over games.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one that kind of is the best is

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<v Speaker 1>injury prone sometimes in MALIEK Collins and two or be

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I started with, I can't remember him. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's the position that it was vulnerable some

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<v Speaker 1>last year and the Rams you know, ran over him

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<v Speaker 1>and the Colt ran over him, and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's one that needs to be improved,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why you're spending your top pick on it

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<v Speaker 1>with Tristan Hill. So I just think there's some question

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<v Speaker 1>marks there, but you know it'll be all right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. It's just so uncertain to me. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Malik is the best one. He's injury front, although through

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<v Speaker 1>two days of pads. He looks very nat he looks

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<v Speaker 1>good out there. He was healthy. Gave Zach contract year,

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<v Speaker 1>gave Zack Martin fits yesterday. Um, so that's something to watch. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods, you know started last year. Good, good player. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an exclusive rights free agent when the season's over.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also you know, he's he's not Gerald McCoy or

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<v Speaker 1>you know some guy that's just got that thing locked

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<v Speaker 1>down to the degree that you don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And that's really Tristan Hill is the only

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<v Speaker 1>one here with a long term future. Um. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>even you know that, that's what you said about years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Well, when I say when I say a long

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<v Speaker 1>term future, I mean till the next contract or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine him being cut any time before like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. Right so, but other than that Woods

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<v Speaker 1>contract year, Malague contract year. And then you know, Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>ross Is, he's a nice player. He did some nice things,

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<v Speaker 1>but he certainly doesn't have a long term outlook as

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<v Speaker 1>of right now. Whom whom I ristic, Christian coving I'm

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>excited about Christian Covington. He I mean, maybe it's just

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:56.959
<v Speaker 1>because he came from the Texans, but he reminds me

0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>of Terrell McClean. It's like, who's this journeyman? Detail, Oh,

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 1>he's actually pretty damn good. Okay, cool. It's one of

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the things I read about him when the Cowboys first

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 1>signed him was you go back and look at some

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 1>of the articles they wrote in Houston, and they were

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about him like, man, this is a guy that's

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not one of those frontline guys, but

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he's one of those glue guys. He's one of those

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.479
<v Speaker 1>guys that gives you a lot of good production that

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily show up on the statute. Of course, what

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered too, is that, you know, there's a lot

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of shooters in the NBA that they got open when

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:26.360
<v Speaker 1>they played with Shack, you know, and I wonder if

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>guess what, he's got a couple of shocks on this scene.

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, well but not where he's coming from. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not as good as I'm talking about Clowney and what coming,

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of forcing the guy up, and it's like, oh,

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.439
<v Speaker 1>he's right in my face. So no belief in Quinn

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and d Law. Yeah, I'm not saying that. Just wonder

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 1>if are they as good? I mean, which one would

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you take them? As a tandem. I'm not saying that

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>they're not as a tandem. I'm not sure. As a

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>best player, I think Wat's better than all of them,

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 1>but I think as a tandem, I mean, Clowney's a

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>guy that he'll show No, Clowney will show up in games.

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Cone who also disappearing games. That's why they have money.

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Is in a franchise tag dispute. And Robert Quinn got

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>traded here for day three picks. Yeah, yeah, but there's

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a reason why they haven't signed him to a long term.

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to say they're not the bed like two

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>No, no no, no. All I'm saying is you go back

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and look at high Criticism is valid, but I will

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 1>take I'll take good. All I'm saying is is, let's

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>let's see if the Cowboys can give that kind of

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>outside pressure h the way, you know, and make Covington

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of show up there. But but when you look

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>at him, he looks like really wide, like he's just

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>got his shoulders and he's defensive time. That's great, Yeah,

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 1>it's great for time. Actually, uh, Antoine Woods looks like

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of slimmed down a little bit. Yeah, I

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>think I buy that. Yeah, he's been working hard this offseason.

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>He posts it on social media all the time. And

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not a shot, Like I think it's cool to

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>watch and he's that if he takes the next step

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and that he could be really good at he said

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>videos year, but well, oh he's good at editing videos.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not him. That's another gay. Yeah they look the same,

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but he gets y'all's inside jokes. Carry offten. He's doing

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 1>all the like badass. We have an employee who happens

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to look a lot like you know, funny things our

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>great friend carry loft. There were some fans on the

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>sideline a couple of days ago and they were like,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>why is Antoine Woods carrying a camera? Yeah? Literally as

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>ever they said that it's it's like it's uncanny. That

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>tells you that people really think he looks like him.

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>But um, what else? Oh no, I mean, Antoine's contractor

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 1>year is different from Malik's contractor year. He's an exclusive

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>rights free agents. All the Cowboys have to do is

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like check the box on his deal and he comes

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>back back. But they don't have to I mean if

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>he's just not good this year, they find a better option. Yeah,

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>and there's a reason why he got um Drew Rosenhouse

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>as his agent. Yeah, Like he got Rosenhouse this year.

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 1>So um, you know he's expecting some some big things.

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>But but I am you know, I mean, you know,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing feels written in stone to me other than that

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Malik is probably your first choice three tech if he's healthy,

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and he has been. He hasn't had a hiccup this

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>offseason at all, which is new for him. Like he's

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the guy that he's broken his foot

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in the off season a couple of times, so that's encouraging.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>And I ride off Ross all the time, like I

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>just forget about him and just say he was until

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he makes a few He was Christian Covington last year.

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you know, his stat sheets not very impressive,

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but when you watch the games, you're like, oh damn,

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>there's Daniel Rosso then. Yeah, but you know Will McClay

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>he has he's a good track record of getting some players.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 1>And you know, the guys that Will likes stick around.

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember he liked Lance Lenore when no one else

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>really did. And he's still around and I believe he

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>likes Rico Gathers and he's still around and he really

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>likes the Daniel Wise because he's a good player. And

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>then also he's a family friend as well. I mean

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>his dad was on his coach and staff and that.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, but I'm not saying that Will McClay

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>would do that or anybody does that, but that's how

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>it opens the door to get there. He's rooting for

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the kid, and if he continues to play well, he'll

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>be around. If I had to give like a no

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>name to jump out, Daniel Wise would definitely be on

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the short list. He I mean, he's done, he's done

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>some work out here against his end of the depth chart.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>To paraphrase from Brian broad Us, like you know, we'll

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>see when he gets a chance to go against the

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>big boys and the starters. But I'm I'm intrigued by

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>his talent and I think they had I think they

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>had a fourth round grade on him. They had a

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.959
<v Speaker 1>nice grade on him, and they got him undrafted. So

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>so looking at those guys, Daniel Ross, who we talked

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about, Christian Covington, Tristan Hill, Daniel Wise,

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 1>which of those guys if he had to say today,

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>one of them is going to make the biggest impact

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of the backups. Which of those guys you think it

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is Covington? Yeah, I think ye. He's got the body

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>to play one, and he's played end in the three four, which, like,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got some more pass rush to him

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>then maybe some of these other guys. And that's you know,

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we talk a lot about the one in the three,

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but interchangeabilities so much for these guys. I think I

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>think he could probably play one but also disrupt the

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>pocket as well. And he's got the NFL experience. I mean,

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>he's started games in the NFL. Um and and again,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>this depth chart is other than Malik and Antoine's actually

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>other than Malik and Tristan Hill. Really, I think it's

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>nothing is really written in stone. So I like his thoughts.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>You think he could get his way onto the field

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>in pass rush situations, because that's the tough part about

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>this team. They have guys, and in particular guy like

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Crawford who who can who are defensive ends, but

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that can play defensive tackles, so you get him into

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>pass ruch situations. They actually want to get those guys

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>on the field as defensive tackles, which makes the defense

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>they've actually they've got They've got another one in Carrie

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Hyder who's played both and he's been he's only worked

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>at ends since he got here, but he can do both.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know what, I was just looking at another

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>guy that I wouldn't be surprised if they see if

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>he could do both. As Joe Jackson, he's six four

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>two eighty five on the sheet, there's no way and

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason they can't get him to two ninety.

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>That would be the same size as as Daniel Wise

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and on that so he could be a guy that

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>moves inside and play some defensive facul That's that's the

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>fun thing about this. All right, Let's let's go through it. Guys,

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Stone Cold locks to be here on the defensive line.

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, um MALIEK Collins, Robert Robert Quinn,

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill. All Right, I'll give you Antoine. I don't

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>know that you can definitely say that's a Stone cald Lock,

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>but I have a hard tip to get a guy

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>goes from starter to off the team. But yeah, go ahead,

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you I'll even give you six. That's still

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>probably any a minimum of three, if not four spots

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>that are up for grabs, and I can't I couldn't

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>tell you who those guys are. I will tell you this.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I think as much as you can probably make him

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a locked at least make the team and we this

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is kind of moving over into the other position, but

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Darren's Armstrong's probably on that. Let's have a

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>hard time thinking he's not on this team based on

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>other than so far. Okay, yeah, all right, guy, he

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>looks really good, looks really and he's a guy that

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was a draft pick last year. He looked good last

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>year when he got some opportunities at times. Right, fourth

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>fourth round is the magical round where it doesn't matter

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that you were a draft pick. Like if he doesn't

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>show it here, they don't care. But my point is

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>with a big round and actually played and did pretty well,

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes me think he it's hard. He has

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to really screw it up to not make the Through

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>two days of practice, I think he makes the team. Yeah,

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>he looks really good, but I mean it's a long month.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Like if he doesn't, if he has a bad month,

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>then they're not like, oh my god, he was. He

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was picked one twenty something. We can't go him. You

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>say fourth round, I say fifth round because I think

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson's gonna have to be terrible for him not

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to make the round as a rookie. Ryan Russell, but

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he was around for a little bit. I mean, I

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>know Mary ross Or cuts his rocky year. They put

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>him on them, they put him on the practice squad,

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>but he was he did not stick around. Okay, you're right.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's see if Marinelli dog cusses Joe Jackson like he did.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Ryan wrestle every day, then yeah, and that was what

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I asked. Y'all are terrible. Y'all are kind of contradicting me.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Y'all are like, I feel really good about this guy.

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying stone cold. Yeah, I are here. There's no

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>arguing about it. That's right. You're right. And if you're

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at that, then yeah, you're probably right. There's only

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>probably six guys that are stone cold locks to be here.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But that's probably better than any other position. Think about

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>stone cold locks and the percentage of the roster. The

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>only other thing I could say would be tied in

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>tight end. You got probably three stone cold locks there

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's yeah. But when running back, what's running back? Yeah? One? Two? Yeah, Yeah, No,

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fair, it's totally fair. Trying to think of their

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>quarter positions. I mean receiver receiver. Your quarterbacks are locks. Ye,

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>your wide receivers are lot. So I think defense line,

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>when you look at it that way, it's probably a

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit better than other positions. It's yes, offensive defensive

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>line probably are the ones where you got to defensive

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>line that's pretty lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Encouraging the talent, yeah,

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean if you're doing it by percentage, then probably

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of your own line it's locked in. Yeah,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>but I was gonna say, I'm super encouraged by the

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:26.959
<v Speaker 1>talent level on both of the lines. Yeah, that's true.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll take another show to get into that. Um let's

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about the defensive ends though, And I want to

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>transition between defensive tackle and defensive end by talking about

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a guy that plays both defensive tackle and defensive end.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Tyron Crawford not practicing right now, but when he comes back,

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he is a guy that's being able to do both,

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>being able to do both both fairly well, where do

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you think he best fits on this team where now

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a Robert Quinn who's starting at that opposite

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>defensive end position from tank. Where do you think Crawford best?

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Tyrone Crawford will wear number ninety eight, and

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the only thing I know about him. I don't know.

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he'll play week one. I don't

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>know if he'll be an end. I don't know if

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>he'll be a tackle. I don't know if he'll be

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a captain. I don't even know how many reps he

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about Tyrone other than he will

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>wear ninety eight. I'll tell you this, the man, the

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>man looks yoked like. And you know we've talked about it. Obvious.

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You know his versatility isn't his asset. I think Nick

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>always makes a great point. Maybe works against him a

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit because they'll just well, we can throw Tyrone there.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But he's been working, and I like, it doesn't look

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like he changed to play defensive tackle. It just looks

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>like he was like, I'm gonna set personal bests in

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the squat all year, and that's what I'm gonna do.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Because him and DeMarcus Lawrence were out here doing rehab

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like two days ago, and I was like, if you

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>if I didn't know anything about this team and I

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>had to guess which one was the All Pro just

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>based on how impressive they looked, I would pick Tyrone.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>His thighs are like tree trunks, Like he looks like

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>he's been working really hard. Good for him. Um, yeah,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And that annoys me because that's the

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>debate I have with brought us all the time, where

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>like Brian will sit here and tell me till I'm

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>blue in the face that right end is the one

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that matters, and you gotta gotta get the corner, and

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the left end is the less talented one. But here

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you got an all pro play and left end. And

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>all due respect to Tyrone Crawford, he does not have

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that freakish bend and athleticism that helps you play right end.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's been man in that position for two years.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna tell me that he fits better at

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>right end, even though that's the one that's supposed to

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>be the more athletic position. But do you think that

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>him getting bigger affects that? And maybe he's getting bigger

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>because he's more of going to be a defensive tackle

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>this year. I don't, like I said, his body doesn't

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>look like that like him. He looks bigger, but he

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like he has You got to make changes,

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like he leaned up a couple of years

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>ago to play in and he still looks that way. Yeah,

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>so no, I just I think he's gonna be a

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 1>really useful and versatile third end. That's what I think

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>about Tyrone. And he could probably play either side if

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I wanted him too. So taking him out of the

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>mix for a second, who do you think is the

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>third best pass rusher on this team? You've got Tank,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>You've got Robert Quinn. I want a table Tyrone Crawford

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 1>for a second, of guys like Dorn's Armstrong and Carrie Hider,

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson, tackle Charlton. Who do you think is the

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>third best pass rusher on this team? Well? The third

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And we're not gonna We're not gonna throw out Randy

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>because Randy's not here just yet, but go ahead. Is

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that where you're gonna go Randy? Yeah? How about your

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith? I'm not even really kidding, like, no, I know,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>but give me a defensive in I hope it's doing.

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I have this. I think that one

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of these rookies is gonna step up. I really do.

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And I just don't know what. I think Jalen Jokes

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to really emerge. I don't know why, I

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just do. What have you seen? Okay? I saw him?

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Noock Rico gathers to the ground on something. Somebody showed

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>me a clip. What were you what were you gonna say? No?

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you? Guys? Keep talking? And I keep a dog,

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>but MP in the place for manners. No, if if

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>four people are just going at it, it creates too

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>much chaos. So I'm living up to you guys. Keep going. No,

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>forget it now it's gonna say Darrence. I'm sure it's

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a guy that I've been keeping my eye on and

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I have high hopes for him because he's a guy

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that DeMarcus Lawrence has taken for whatever reason. He's taking

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>him under his wing and has decided to coach up

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy and teach him about life even outside of

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the football field. You know. So when you got a

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>guy like DeMarcus Lawrence who is proven and and does

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the things that he does that he does, I would

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 1>expect um Dorance Armstrom to be able to soak up

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>all of that knowledge. Now mentally, I don't know how

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>much he's there. And I say that with caution. I

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I've had conversations with him and it's just

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of like I'm like talking to somebody right now,

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's kind of strange, but physically I'm

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>not trying to say something bad, but you know what

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean. But you know some players that are like

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that that has not flashed a lot of personality to

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>this point in his career, which because it might not

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>be about his mental capacity, he's not personable or maybe

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>just nervous talking to you. I don't know how many

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>words maybe what are both? I'm just saying I've heard

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Malik Collins say about eight words since he got here.

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Like some guys just aren't like that. Yeah, Larry Allen, Yeah, seriously,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going off of that about his no Mass experience. Yes,

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just going some bad ones very good no

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Moss either, but go ahead. No, But basically, when you

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have a mentor like DeMarcus Lawrence who's willing to coach

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you up and take you under his wing, even outside

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of the football field, hang out with him and do

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>all these things together. I would hope that it kind

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>of washes off on him and like he absorbs all

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>of that and he translate onto the football field. I

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to, you know, steam the hype

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 1>train up too fast, too soon. But it just looks

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>different when a guy that size can dip his shoulder

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and bend the corner like that. And I've seen Dorin's

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>armstrong do that and that's regularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's exciting.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.919
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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump into a little seat, un No, am, But

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>what do you have for us? Well, I see a

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people starting to talk about trading. So it's

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 1>that time of year, baby, Ezekiel Elliott, We're going to Yeah,

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>do you see the Cowboys going that route down the

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>road in the near future, trading Ze for something else?

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>There's nobody out there that you can trade for right

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>now with him to get value at all. I mean, like,

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't even trade to pay a draft pick because

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if anybody's gonna be good, bad or whatever.

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you trade me your first round pick, like,

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>what does that do? I've seen that. I've seen that

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>twice where the Cowboys have traded for next year's one

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and the team kind of got hot and ended up

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>going you know, seven to nine, and in giving you

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a twentieth pick for Zeke, I need the top five

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>pick because I picked him number four and he's been

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>better than that. So I like that. First of all,

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna get on my soapbox as quickly as possible, because,

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like do it Dave. Three weeks ago, I, me and

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kavanaugh were sort of bantering about what it might

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>look like if the team moved on from Zeke and

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody lost their damn mind, like we were just the

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>stupidest people on earth, and why would we want to

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>get rid of Zeke? Dude misses two days of practice

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and everybody in the world thinks he's not that good

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and they want to get rid of him, and it's bs.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the hypocrisy. On

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>top of that, what what are you doing? What do

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you do? Like, what's this deal? You're gonna trade him

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>for a pick and then you know, we'll roll forward

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.720
<v Speaker 1>into the season with Alfred Morris, Darius Jackson, and Tony

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Pollard good luck And you might hear that from them

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>or some other people. I've no, that's a terrible idea.

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 1>No offense to those guys, you're not accomplishing your goals

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>as a team that way. To anybody for a pick,

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be a player would have to be

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 1>involved because and who is this team? Who is this

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>team that wants him? Like, oh, trade for Duke Johnson?

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Why isn't that? Why do they want him? They've got

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb on a cheap contract, who can do what

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they need him to do. He needs to be a

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl player, because don't give me a pick, because

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you that Zeke's gonna make that team better.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>So that pick's gonna be. Who are these teams out

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 1>there that want Zeke that would give up the pick

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and also have a good running back to give because

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I need that, Like I need a replacement running back again,

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, what's your cutoff there of good running are

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you talking about? You need somebody that's the caliber of

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a top five running back in the league. I need

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a bell Cow Okay? I mean, like if you told

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>me I could get Duke Johnson in a trade and

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a pick or two, Like, all right, that's not absurd.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Not a bell Cow guy, right, He's at least he

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>could at least be a lead dog and he can

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>catch and do all. Like he's a well rounded guy

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 1>who can do everything and play the majority of the snaps.

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And if Pollard's getting some snaps and then a third

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>running back, we can make that work, right, And that's

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>why I'm trying to figure out, like what that cutoff is?

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>What kind of player would be? The kind of player

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you would say, Hey, if I had that guy that

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>would be good enough with this offensive line to be

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 1>able to make my team in a perfect like just

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>an in a vacuum, if you sent me Duke Johnson

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and a valuable pick like first, preferably first, but maybe

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>even second round. Like I'm listening, Yeah, okay, but like

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>why would the Browns do that. They've like, they've got

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb, They've got this, they got that, Like they

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>don't they don't the reason why why Duke Johnson is

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 1>wanting to be trades? They already got a guy. Yeah yeah,

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>so I just you know, I can go research this,

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>but I don't see a team out there that fits

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 1>this magical criteria. Or I mean, if Duke Johnson was

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>really worth anything, they wouldn't have drafted Nick Chubb high

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in the second round. Anyways, I mean, they wouldn't have

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>gone to get Kareem Hunt after that, Like they don't

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>really value him as a good player. So there's there's

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody you could really pay the guy. You're like, just

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>sign him. I've said this, you're talking about injuries, Like

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>what injury? I mean? I thought about this earlier. I

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, the only thing I'm worried about is Zeke's deliverer.

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>That's it, seriously, just because don't go out there and

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>be partying it up in Cabo. That's it. Don't be

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>partying all the time. Come back here and be ready

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to play. That's it. He'll be ready, He'll be ready. Well,

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>here's another running back question. Will you consider Sean Barkley

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a better running back than seek? If plugged into this Cowboys?

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a better running back than Zeke on that team.

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 1>And I don't even like, I don't have to mince

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>words because Zeke Elliott said that himself. He said that

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>before sa Quan came out. He was like, he's better

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>than me. He's gonna be better than me. Is the

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.919
<v Speaker 1>best in the league in my opinion, right He's it's

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>hard to argue with what he did on a sorry

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Giants team here, and yeah, if he was here, I

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>mean take him number one. Baker is gonna be there

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>at four. I mean some of the thing about it

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is you look at some of the things, you look

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>at some of the things he did last year with

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a really really suspect offensive line. That's when you know

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you got somebody that's really really special, you know. And

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>so that's where I mean, Zeke has done everything he's

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>done at the NFL. And this is not to take

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>away from Zeke. Zeke has been phenomenal, but he did

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 1>it with a really really great offensive line. Quans not

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think that just shows kind of the difference.

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's one of the reasons why when you talk

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>about best all time, I'm one of those guys that

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of defers over to Barry Sanders because he did

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it most of his career without an offensive line. I

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think I mean, I'm sorry Cowboys fans, I don't

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 1>think you can argue that well. There are a lot

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of people that do, and I think it's a fair argument. Obviously,

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the numbers say that that it's the best all time.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I just think personally, when you look at his offensive line, first, Barry,

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we can do another show on that, all right, but

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.919
<v Speaker 1>well the other and you know this is worthwhile too.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I haven't I haven't heard. I just want to say

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>this that sounded very Mickey like. But but to the

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys I believe were two and seven when without when

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they played without him, it so that awesome Offen. Now

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>he meant he meant a lot to their He meant

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot. He meant a lot to their team. He

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>was probably, in my opinion, probably their most valuable player.

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>As though you know they'll give credits a lot of

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the people, that's not the point I'm making. The point

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm making is we just talk about just running back skill.

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think Barry had a skill that was different than anybody,

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, be different than anybody in the in

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the history of the NFL. I agree. I haven't seen

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen sa Quon Barkley's name in very many

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>non football headlines since he came into the league. And

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that's something that helps too. Yeahs, I mean, yeah, he's

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah all around, it's a better total package. Not I mean,

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Zeke's great too, but yeah, see see yeah, see sorry,

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we all all we talked about Molly Callings and him

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>being injury prone. Would you expect him to be to

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>make the Pro Bowl this year? Ceo, No, I've been

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>burned by that before. I mean, you know, he had

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>five and a half sacks as a rookie. If he

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>can stay healthy, see if he can stay healthy, yes,

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but I just that hasn't been there for him. I

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>say no, not because I don't think. I think he's

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a really good year. I think when we

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>finished talking about this, we're gonna be like in that

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>dilemma of man's he's worth some money. Now my problem

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 1>is as a defensive tackle, is he going to be

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>better than Fletcher Cox? He's gonna be better than Aaron Donald.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the point when you start talk about Pro Bowl,

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you start talk about Pro Bowl. It's hard to make

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowls. It's easier than ever to make the Pro

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Bowl too, like with alternates and people start Super Bowl.

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Tell Fletcher Cox needs to get his shoulder cleaned up

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in January so he bows out. I mean, yeah, I

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't say he'd be health the first team defensive tackle,

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>but I could see him making it all right, Well,

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>if he stays healthy, Yeah, sixteen games, Well, wnt be

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the touchdown? Leader in Cowboys history by the end of

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>this season, is it. I don't even know. I think

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about this at the Star before

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>we came out here, and like I waved it off

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 1>as being crazy, and then I realized he's only like

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.839
<v Speaker 1>four behind behind this. I think he's got six behind

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>because he needs six to break it. No, they can't,

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>hear our producer. Yes, he ain't get he needs six

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to break it and getting six touchdowns thanks you remember

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he's average is gonna get five and he got he

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>still needs five his career isn't that couldn't His career

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>average is like exactly five, and I want to say

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he had five in his final year here, like he

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>he really took a downturn in like like fifteen sixteen,

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>he had like three each year, but that he put

0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>up five and seventeen. I don't think. So It's like

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>that is the perfect like over under question, like it's

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:49.879
<v Speaker 1>it's plausible, but it won't necessarily be easy. I'm gonna

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>say no. I'm gonna say yes just because it's fun,

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>like when too many other guys are gonna get touchdowns

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 1>for his team, and I don't think he'll say yesterday.

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that when he other guys get there, guys

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 1>in the red zone. But I think Jarwin will be

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a guy that they'll throw two more in the red

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>zone than than Witten. And I don't think Whitten's the

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy that's just you know, breaking it from

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight yards out right. Say't get off me. It's

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be writing these Fountain of Youth headlines in

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.760
<v Speaker 1>like October, just like Jason Witten has four touchdowns after

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 1>six games. I mean, I'm sort of joking possible. Like

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, it's more fun. It'd be clearer when you're joking.

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>It's more fun to think it could happen. So I'm

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna say yes. See, if the defense is top five

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>this year and the Cowboys don't make the NFC Championship Game,

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is a new code head coach on the current staff,

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Regardless of where the defense is ranked, if they don't

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>get you know what, they're right, If you got a

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>top five that's that's a good question. It took me

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a second to realize that, So say it again. Say

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it again again. If the defense is top five this

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>year and the Cowboys don't make the NFC Championship game.

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Is the new head coach? Well you really can? I

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>can I answer? Can I ask the question? Is going

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.919
<v Speaker 1>to be the head coach of this team? If? If

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 1>they if they do well, the defense holds up, it's

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>end of the bargain. But Jason Garrett, remember coordinator. Yeah,

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that's the funny part about all of this. Really, that's

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>a good question. It is a good question. And I

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>will say see wait, see that means the head coaches

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:37.799
<v Speaker 1>on this staff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's really hard. I'm

0:51:37.840 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna say no because wait, can I Gellen? I want

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to say the next the next coach of and I

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>think the world of Christoph Shard and the next coach

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 1>of the Dallas Cowboys, whether it's this year or five

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:53.919
<v Speaker 1>years from now, will be a splash year higher than

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>just promoting your defensive coordinator unless splash though, unless unless

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:04.759
<v Speaker 1>unless your defense is so good that people are that

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the identity this of this team changes. This started to

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:09.879
<v Speaker 1>happen last year where people were talking about this defense,

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>where they were talking about this in this hypothetical world

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>where this is a thing. Chris Richard's gonna get a

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>meeting with Jerry and Stephen Jones and he will blow

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>them away. Absolutely, he will wow them his personality, his

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>level of engagement, his passion, his level of preparation, all

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Like if he gets a chance to interview,

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.439
<v Speaker 1>you can't bet against that. There's no way that there

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is an opening with the Dallas Cowboys as the head coach.

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And unless the defense falls apart this year and he

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>is not a candidate, I just think, you know, unless

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to be, and I don't want to

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>but that would be the only that would be the

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>only way that I don't see him as a potential candidate. Now,

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>whether he gets a job or not, that's a whole

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 1>different thing for sure. That's what I can't imagine that interview.

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That he doesn't get an interview. You got to get

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>an interview. I just yeah. I don't want to throw

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 1>out names because I don't want to prompt speculation, But

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>there are just some there are some big fish that

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 1>this team could go after if that were the case.

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think he got his interview last year. All

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>last year, that was an interview. All that's all you

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>need to look. Cut my eyes fair to say that

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the four of us are big were members of the

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>christoph Shard fan club, as is most of Cowboys Nation,

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. I mean, like he got if they weren't

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>fans before that video of him, you know, kind of

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 1>rustling and wrestling with the Eagles before the game. Like

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that's when fans are like, oh, we're in on this

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.920
<v Speaker 1>everything he did. You see the photo that Jeremiah, our

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>team photographer, took yesterday where it was Jeff Heath's pick,

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and like he got the perfect Like Richard is like

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:42.399
<v Speaker 1>up in the air with his fists up, just freaking out.

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It's great. Yeah, he's awesome. If he's not and he's

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>not the defensive coordinator, but the way he is out

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>here on the field, you would think he was the

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 1>defensive pointator. He's interacting with players from every position on

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the entire defense. So yeah, all right, here's the last one.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Is the old line as good as twenty sixteen? See

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 1>let's see Let's rock. Yeah. I think Travis just ask

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>good or better? I just thought about something, how do

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you quantify that like Sachs allowed rushing yards? I mean,

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>how do you quantify better? As of this moment, I

0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can say that because I don't

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 1>know that I've seen yet that Connor's gonna be as

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 1>good as Ron Leary was before he left the Cowboys.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 1>It's two days into camp. It's obvious. I mean, I

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.720
<v Speaker 1>could say we haven't seen enough to all these questions

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and justified, but even as of two days in camp,

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've seen him be better than Ron Leary.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw him sit down on Malie Collins yesterday in

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 1>a way that I one hundred percent don't think he

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.000
<v Speaker 1>could have done. Excuse me it was I think it

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.719
<v Speaker 1>was Daniel Ross, not Malie Collins. But I don't think

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>he could have done it last year. Fine, he won, Okay,

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 1>let me come on, man, right, he won a golf

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 1>cart for his offseason and conditioning work, like he is

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin junior. Like they gave it. No, no, no,

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't obvious. I mean Zack Martin's going on to

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame. That's not what I mean. But

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like they gave him a binder. They were like, here's

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>how you turn your body into Zach Martin. And he's

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 1>just been following it like to a t. So I

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 1>think he has made the strides to be better. Lyle

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Collins is in a contract year even Travis Frederick a

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 1>year removed away from the game. I think should be

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty damn good. And then your other two are Hall

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of famers or maybe so. Yeah, I think they should

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.359
<v Speaker 1>be pretty good to feel optimistic about. I do too,

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and I think they're gonna be really good. My point, though,

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 1>is I think at the point of where where Ron

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Leary was right before he left the Cowboys, that offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line to me was the best office of head because

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<v Speaker 1>he had an ass. But Connor Williams got an ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's my point. I didn't go there. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't have access to the drops, don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hit. I guess we can want one more. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill will be the best rookie of the two

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen draft class. Nick thinks it's gonna be Jalen Jolkes,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, go ahead, Hey yeah, I'll say no because

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<v Speaker 1>I got the whole field. Yeah, I just don't the

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<v Speaker 1>way the way they rotate a defensive tackle, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just I wonder how much of an impact will have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to make. I mean, Malik Malik did have

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<v Speaker 1>five sacks five and a half sacks as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>but Pollard is the obvious one. I think he's the

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<v Speaker 1>on's gonna get more opportunities than anybody else if I

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<v Speaker 1>can't choose Pollard, Yeah, maybe Hill, like Jackson, maybe Mike Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>the corner, Donovan Wilson. Not no, because even if those

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<v Speaker 1>guys make the team, they'll be like Game Day and actors. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's got to be Pollard. I mean, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot's going to get the opportunity. Pollard, Hill, Pollard or Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like those are the only logical answers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else won't probably won't be playing unless you got

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<v Speaker 1>some major injuries. They're probably not gonna be playing much

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<v Speaker 1>this year except for special teams possibly. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we appreciate those A good game. I was loud, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good game. We'll be back tomorrow. We appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. We'll get back out of our normal time tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be ten am time. That'll be noon for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys back in Dallas. And also, just a quick note,

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier that the Sunday scrimmage, the Blue eight scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be in on TXA. I'm sorry he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be on CBS. Eleven in Dallas. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on TSA twenty one in Dallas, So for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you out there in the larger area, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get it across all of our platforms. Will be

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<v Speaker 1>streaming it live, so you can check it out on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then for you guys in Dallas, you can check

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<v Speaker 1>it out on TSA twenty one. All right, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you joining us. So then for Nick Eatman, Dave helm

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<v Speaker 1>and Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagles and this has been

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