1 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of The Break live from Oxnard, California. 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: It is a Wednesday CRISP morning, July thirty first, and 9 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about today. As we 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: usually do, will start off with a little blanket coverage 11 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: to get into some injuries, um and maybe a defection, 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see what's happening with Chris Westry 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: and then talk a little bit about the defensive line. 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna go a little in depth on the defensive 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: line today, talk about the defensive tackles and the defensive 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: ends on this team. How's everybody feeling this morning? Great? Awesome? 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: Grand Let's jump right in. It is an off day 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: for the team, so they will not be practicing today, 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: not for us, never an off day for us, and 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: so we will so they will, they will resume practices 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow normal time, but today they get a little bit 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: of rest time heading into the weekend when, by the way, 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday, there will be a scrimmage Blue White scrimmage, 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: So if you guys want to check that out, we 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: will actually stream it live across all of our platforms, 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, the Cowboys Mobile app, Connect, the 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: TV app, and for those back in Dallas, will actually 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: be airing on CBS eleven as well, so make sure 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: you check that out. Let's get started with a little 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: bit of blanket coverage here first, as we do every day, 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you guys a statement that will be 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: a blank you feel in the blank. Let's start with 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: the first statement. Sean Lee misspracticed for the second day 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: due to a knee injury. My concern level is blank. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I liked that left day. It's Sean Lee, you know, 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: it just is what it is. I'm not concerned for 37 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: two reasons. One because it's it's it seems like it's minor, 38 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: and two because Sean Lee doesn't mean to this defensive 39 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: success what he did even two years ago. So maybe 40 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: I Sean Lee one of the best Cowboys players in 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: recent memory. I think the world of him as a guy. 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: But you know, would we be freaking out if Damien 43 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Wilson and tweaked his knee? You know, I mean so 44 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: probably not. So that's kind of how I feel. I mean, 45 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: you would think. I mean personally, I think I would 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: be used to this by now, but I'm not. It 47 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: still hurts me because I thought, Okay, he he was 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: looking good. He's put on some muscle weight on him, 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, and his new role. I was expecting this 50 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: to actually help him kind of maintain his health. And 51 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: what they've been doing here isn't too much. I don't 52 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: think we're not at that level where we had like 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: a full week of padded practice yet. So it's still 54 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of disappointment. It's not surprising, 55 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: but you know, I love the guy and I want 56 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to see him on the field. Nick not concerned, well 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: at all. They've said it best. He doesn't. He doesn't 58 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: mean as much to the defense. And you know, if 59 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: you say, if you say you had a hangnail out here, 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the trainers will hold you out, you know, And it's 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: nothing against them. It's this is the time of year 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're you're not, you know, getting 63 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: hurt anything in a major way. So where Sean Lee, 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: everything is precautionary, So I don't think it's that big 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: a deal, all right. Statement number two, the most row 66 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: some injury on this team is blank Nick, I'm gonna 67 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: say Travis Frederick. Even though he's not he's been cleared, 68 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna still think that is probably the one. I mean, 69 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's not just going right in 70 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: and doing all the you know, one on ones and 71 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I don't know if you want 72 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: to call it an injury or not, but they're definitely 73 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: being cautious with it, and I think that that he 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: matters a lot to this team. Now. I do think 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Joe Looney did a nice job and we'll do a 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: nice job as a backup, but I think Frederick takes 77 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: it to another level. So I'm not worried about any 78 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: of the other injuries so much. That one's the one. 79 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: I think it's worth pointing out too. It's so easy 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: to forget because you know, he came back from gian 81 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: bare and it's this it's a great story, but he 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: also had shoulder surgery and he actually said that's why 83 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: he hasn't been involved in the one on ones. It's 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: not so much because of the GBS, but you know, 85 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: they're being cautious with a veteran who had shoulder surgery 86 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: in the offseason, so I mean that's something to watch too. 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: So that's the injury. So, Dave, most were some injury 88 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: for you. Are we we're calling Byron and DeMarcus injured. Yeah? Yeah, 89 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: they're not practicing, yeah, because they're not back from their injuries, 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: and they're not back from their surgeries. They're not back 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: from whatever ailed themself. I think of injuries as things 92 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: that have happened since we got here. I'm saying, everybody 93 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: that's out right now, if you want me to rephrase, 94 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: okayout Byron Byron Jones, because like I just I you know, 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: Tank tanks Tank. He's had shoulder injuries for like half 96 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: of his career anyway, and he plays through it and 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: he's great. And also I just feel like I'm not 98 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: saying he should like wrap that dude in bubble rap, 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: but like if they needed him out there in a week, 100 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I bet he could do it. That's just kind of 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: how I feel. Whereas Byron, I know he was skateboarding around. 102 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: He looks like he's pretty good, but it's a hip 103 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: and he's a corner and that's everything to a cornerback. 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: So I just I want to I want him to 105 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: get some work out here. I hope that he does. So. Yeah, 106 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: And I actually talk to him a little bit about that, 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: and he said that he eats specs to get some 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: work in Oxnard. Awesome. And I actually was watching him 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: doing some drills and I just thought, Okay, this is July. 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: We care about him playing in September, not even in August. Yet. 111 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I got a whole full month. I'm not panicking. I'm 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: not worried he'll come back. Yeah, I would have said Travis, 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: but right now Joe Looney looks like a badass, so 114 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm not that concerned. But I would go with the 115 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence, I you know right now, Yes you don't 116 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: have Randy Gregory, Robert Quinn. It was a guy that 117 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I think we all had high expect It's still early, 118 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: but we had, at least me having expectations of when 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: he first came out here and kind of show a 120 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: little more than what he's shown so far. Yes, he 121 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: went against Tyren Smith that's Tyron, but Ken Fleming, M 122 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's still he put up a battle there, 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: but it wasn't that impressive and tackle. We talked about him. 124 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: He walked out yesterday with an injury. Actually, what was it? 125 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: His back? Maybe heard taco he did, he did something 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: small to his back. But he came out for a 127 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: walk through last night. So like the position position wise 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: right now, UM, not that excited from what I've seen 129 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: so far. So I think DeMarcus Lawrence. I'm ready to 130 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: see him out there and see the combination of him 131 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: and Robert Quinn and see how that does. Person most 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: likely to be absent week one is amber most likely 133 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: to be out of all those guys that we've been 134 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: talking about that are injured right now, the guy that 135 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you would say is most likely to be absent come 136 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: week one, Uh, he is injured and he will be suspended. 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: And there's another guy that's looking at We don't know 138 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with Tyron Crawford, right, I mean 139 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: that is true, That is true. Um, shoot, I don't 140 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the injured guys. You know, 141 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't say injured guys. I just said of 142 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: the guys on this team most likely to everybody Week one, 143 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: get back to me, all right, Dave ze Zeke, Yeah, 144 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: I think that he's He's the guy that's most likely 145 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: because if he wants to make it, like you know what, 146 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: we've been told by people that are that know the situation, 147 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: they'll say, he doesn't have any leverage, has no leverage. Well, 148 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: and they're right right now, But don't play in that 149 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: game and get beat by the Giants who you shouldn't 150 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: lose to at home too, and then we'll see what 151 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of leverage it is. I still don't think he 152 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: has leverage at that point. Okay, well, because Berry just 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: said this is this is kind of an all end season. 154 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: So if I get lose games, but how long is 155 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: he going to see because that's the point I don't know. 156 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: Like that's the problem with with the scenario is this 157 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: is not a situation where him sitting out games actually 158 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: helps him because sitting out games, the Cowboys will own 159 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: his rights for three seasons. He's not He's not gonna 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: sit for three years. I disagree, though, how do you 161 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: just because it's about playing, it's about winning the Super 162 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Bowl and trying to get to that goal. And what 163 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: is that? How's that factor into him them owning his 164 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: rights for three years, because it's not about three years 165 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: that they're not coming out here, and it's talking about 166 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: three years this year. No, But the point, the point 167 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: is if they have his rights for three years, him 168 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: sitting in missing games is only hurting him. It's not 169 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: hurting it's not hurting anybody but him. Jerry. He thinks 170 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: this is the best football team he's got and so 171 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: if he's got a running back that's sitting there and 172 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: kind of holding this team hostage, then let's let's come 173 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: together like they're here. They're here, let's come together. But 174 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: that's the point. I don't think that a guy who 175 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: knows he can't play football but for this team for 176 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: three years is gonna miss games. That's the point. He 177 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: doesn't have the leverage to be able to sit because 178 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: in the situation with Levon Bell, he knew that he 179 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: could force their hand at some point because sitting out 180 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: this year, he knew he was going to be a 181 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: free agent after that. So him sitting for a year 182 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: makes a lot of or makes some sense because at 183 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: least he knows, no matter what, I will be a 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: free agent after this year. Ze can't say that for 185 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: three years. I just it's it's totally determined on his 186 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: how much is he willing to let the world burn, Like, 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: if he's even even at his own costs, Yeah, you're right. Yeah. 188 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: If he's absolutely like, f you pay me and he 189 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,239 Speaker 1: wants to sit until Halloween, he can hurt the Cowboys 190 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: and make them real antsy to get a deal done. 191 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: But you're right. In the long term, it only he 192 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: never gets that money back. He hurts his future earning value. 193 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: He can't go anywhere for three years, That's why. But 194 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: that's why I think the August sixth deadline means nothing 195 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: to him, because he's like they they're not. I can't 196 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: go anywhere anyway, So who cares if I don't accrue 197 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: a year or toward free agency? So he can. He 198 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: definitely he has some leverage if he's really willing to 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: go all out, but that would mean missing anywhere between 200 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: one and maybe as many as like six or seven 201 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: game checks. And I don't know if he's willing to 202 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: take that step. And although we all agreed this is 203 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: a much better team with him on it, it could 204 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: backfire on him if they should happen to win those 205 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: first few games while he's out that then kills whatever, 206 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: and the first three weeks of the season are set up. 207 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: If you're gonna go, if you're gonna if you're gonna 208 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: try to win without Zeke, you've got a great start 209 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: in front of you. Yeah, and that's what what happened 210 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: with with Pittsburgh. Then. Now they didn't make the playoffs, 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: but they got kind of hot early in the year. 212 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: Was James Connor, Yeah, he was playing really well and 213 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: so he was like now towards the end, I think 214 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: he got then they definitely missed him, but it was 215 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: too late to do anything because Lebon had already made 216 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: his point at that point. But so I I, yeah, 217 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: it's risky, but if if you lose, you know, if 218 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: they're one and two and they've lost the game and 219 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Alfred Morris is rushing for forty eight yards on twelve 220 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: carries and all that stuff, like, yeah, he could he 221 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: has some leverage, but only if he fully commits to this. 222 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: I think, I think, honestly, this is the best leverage 223 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: he's going to have, right, I don't think, I don't. 224 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I call it great leverage, but 225 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: it's the best he's gonna possibly have. He has them 226 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: in a position right now where this is probably the 227 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: best he's gonna This is as good as if he's 228 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: willing to commit to it. Yeah. Yeah. And also like 229 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: it's it's who you talk to, Like if you talk 230 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: to guys that are kind of dealing with the salary 231 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: cap or maybe even Stephen Jones, who's looking big picture. 232 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: If you're talking to like Jerry Jones, or how about Jason, 233 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Jason is the one that's looking just like like get him, 234 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: give him to me now I met him now, So yeah, 235 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: it's he's got some but he's gonna have to really 236 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: commit to it. Yeah, to answer your you didn't ask 237 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: me yet, But I'm not. I spent a lot of 238 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: the summer wringing my hands about Byron and DeMarcus, But 239 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: now that I've seen him with my own eyes and 240 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: kind of got a firmer grasp on where they're at, Like, 241 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm not that worried about any of the guys right now. 242 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, long way to go knock on wood, but 243 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: you know something's gonna happen to somebody. So but none 244 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: of the none of the real concerns right now. I 245 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: think will not be there week one, So the big 246 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: injury hasn't happened yet, that's what he's saying. I said, 247 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: knock on wood. Yeah, but yeah, it happens. That stuff 248 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: happens at training camp. You just hope that they're any 249 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: major injuries, Like you're gonna get an injury. Somebody's gonna 250 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: get hurt. Pretty though, there won't be anyone like carded 251 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: off the field today. Oh I'm glad. Yeah. I was 252 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: about to say, no one will get hurt today, but man, 253 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: they're weird. Stuff happens all the time. I would say hurt, 254 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: just carted off the field. That's a good way to 255 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: put it. All right, let's move on. I did want 256 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: to real quickly just get an update on Chris west 257 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: Chris westree a little farther down the depth chart, but 258 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: reports yesterday with any misspractice due to a personal issue. Yeah, 259 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it didn't sound like it didn't sound like he's around. 260 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: But what are you guys hearing about him and where 261 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: he is right now, and and if that really even 262 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: makes a huge difference for this team based upon what 263 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: they got at the cornerback position. I've been burned before 264 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: by saying what I think I know, and then Dave 265 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: comes in and says, well, actually, I don't have anything 266 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: for you, so fire. You know. The last thing that 267 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: we've kind of heard is and what the Cowboys were saying, 268 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: it's a personal issues. He's dealing with some some he's 269 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: left the team right now for some personal reasons, um, 270 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: and they expect him back, and Stephen Jones said they 271 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: expect him back, and Jason Garrett expect him back as well. 272 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: The one thing to that is people that have seen 273 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: him leave for personal reasons had all his bags packed. 274 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know what if he's 275 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: a heavy packer or not. I don't know what's going on, 276 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: but they've got all his back packs. And by the way, 277 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: this would not be the first time we've ever seen 278 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: a player that, for personal reasons packed their bags and 279 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: left and then a few days later came back. It 280 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: played eight years, yeah exactly, so it happened. It happened, Yeah, 281 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: it happened. Sol Beasley was dealing with stuff, and after 282 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: all those times, and we've done all these feature stories, 283 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if that ever came out exactly why 284 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley left there was some personal stuff. He went home. 285 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: He never he never really said why, but but he was. 286 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: He was doing really well, and so everyone was surprised 287 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: and he came back and he obviously had the career 288 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: that he had. Um Westy did not have such a 289 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: great first practice. Yeah, and you know was this is 290 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna be one out of twenty though. Man. I mean, 291 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know why he's leaving, but that's you know, 292 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: it's to know if it's that or not. Yeah, you know, 293 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see if he comes back. There's been 294 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: a few over the years that you know, I remember here, 295 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago was a guy named Andrew Davison's 296 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: pretty good cornerback from the Jets. They Bill liked him, 297 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Parcels liked him, and quit like third third day. So 298 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: it happens so well. But I don't know if he's 299 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: what's going on. We just know that it's personal reasons 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: and he's got a day here, so yeah, figure it out. 301 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see if he comes back or not. 302 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I would assume it's a pretty tough adjustment a lot 303 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: of times for these guys coming out of college programs 304 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: where most of them were among the best on their teams, 305 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: and then they get here and they're among the I 306 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: don't want to say the worst, but they're certainly not 307 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: up there as far as a depth chart or the 308 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: amount of credibility that they have. And you know, he 309 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: has a day like he had the first day. Sometimes 310 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: adjusting to that is is difficult. Yeah. I think he's 311 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: one of those guys. I could be wrong, but I 312 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: think he's one of those athletes that over the years 313 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: has just been said yes too because of look at him. Yeah, 314 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, um, but he never he said he had 315 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: never played receiver because he said his hands were terrible. 316 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: He said that. He asked about playing basketball and he's like, no, 317 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't play basketball. And he's in Kentucky. I doesn't 318 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: play basketball. You know. They put him at corner and 319 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, you would think he'd be a safety. But 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: but so he's got a tough issue anyways, just being 321 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: a six four corner that they don't and playing for Richard. 322 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Chris gets he's temper. He gets really into 323 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: the game and he will yell at you and so 324 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: if you're not that's yeh didn't happen get beaten? He 325 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: was He was like you're get out, getting out of here. 326 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: So I think I think Chris just meant like on 327 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: the sideline, but stream might have been like, where did 328 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: he tell me to lead that don't have to leave? 329 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're really speculating. No, it's and I 330 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: hope and if there's I'll just say this too. We're 331 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: making light of it. I don't know what the personal 332 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: issues are. They could be a lot deeper than can 333 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: you cover a wide receiver? Sure, and if that's the case, 334 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: then you know, we really don't know. We're speculating. And 335 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: hope he comes back, and hope he gets it going 336 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: and has a Cole Beasley type career. There are other 337 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: guys that this has happened to it well where they 338 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: leave or whatever reason, personal reasons, whatever the point is, 339 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: you hope he's back on tomorrow and back working in 340 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: and we'll see how things go for him. All right, 341 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and take our first break. When we 342 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: come back from break, I want to talk about this 343 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: defensive line. 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Slash football Back to the Break, Welcome back. 390 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: It is the second second of the Break, live from Opsdock, California. 391 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: It is day five. You've been out here. I don't 392 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: know something like that. Day five or so? Yeah, what 393 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: episode is if you count Thursday? If you count, Oh yeah, yeah, 394 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: if you count, But I don't count that. I was 395 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: thinking about the days that they actually started practice. Sorry, 396 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: so i'd be about day five here. I think it 397 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: would be about if I slept here, I count it. 398 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: So okay, well we're a week in then, yeah, and 399 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: we only got two and a half more weeks, two weeks, 400 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: three days or something. All right, so let's jump in. 401 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the defensive line. Um, let's 402 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: start first with the defensive tackles. And here's kind of 403 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: the way I look at this position. You got Belie 404 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Collins and Antoine Woods as your starters. You got as backups, 405 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Ross, Christian Covington, Tristan Hill, Daniel Wise, Shaquire Soto. Um, 406 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: I guess give me kind of the the big picture 407 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: of what you think of this particularly this position, factoring 408 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: in the starters, the depth. What do you just think 409 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: about this position overall? I think you got some good players. 410 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a great player, but 411 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: then again, you can't have a great player at every spot, um, 412 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: But it's the one position where I think is um 413 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: is concerning just because of a that reason right there. 414 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: Don't think you have that badass that just takes over games. 415 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: And the one that kind of is the best is 416 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: injury prone sometimes in MALIEK Collins and two or be 417 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: whatever I started with, I can't remember him. Um. I 418 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: think that it's the position that it was vulnerable some 419 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: last year and the Rams you know, ran over him 420 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: and the Colt ran over him, and so I think 421 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: that you know, it's one that needs to be improved, 422 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: and that's why you're spending your top pick on it 423 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: with Tristan Hill. So I just think there's some question 424 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: marks there, but you know it'll be all right, No, 425 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: we'll see. It's just so uncertain to me. Uh yeah, 426 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: Malik is the best one. He's injury front, although through 427 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: two days of pads. He looks very nat he looks 428 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: good out there. He was healthy. Gave Zach contract year, 429 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: gave Zack Martin fits yesterday. Um, so that's something to watch. Uh. 430 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, you know started last year. Good, good player. Um, 431 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: he's an exclusive rights free agent when the season's over. 432 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: He's also you know, he's he's not Gerald McCoy or 433 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: you know some guy that's just got that thing locked 434 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: down to the degree that you don't have to worry 435 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: about it. And that's really Tristan Hill is the only 436 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: one here with a long term future. Um. And that's 437 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: even you know that, that's what you said about years ago. 438 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Right Well, when I say when I say a long 439 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: term future, I mean till the next contract or yeah, 440 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: I can't imagine him being cut any time before like 441 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Right so, but other than that Woods 442 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: contract year, Malague contract year. And then you know, Daniel 443 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: ross Is, he's a nice player. He did some nice things, 444 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: but he certainly doesn't have a long term outlook as 445 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: of right now. Whom whom I ristic, Christian coving I'm 446 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: excited about Christian Covington. He I mean, maybe it's just 447 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: because he came from the Texans, but he reminds me 448 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: of Terrell McClean. It's like, who's this journeyman? Detail, Oh, 449 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: he's actually pretty damn good. Okay, cool. It's one of 450 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: the things I read about him when the Cowboys first 451 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: signed him was you go back and look at some 452 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: of the articles they wrote in Houston, and they were 453 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: talking about him like, man, this is a guy that's 454 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, he's not one of those frontline guys, but 455 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 1: he's one of those glue guys. He's one of those 456 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: guys that gives you a lot of good production that 457 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily show up on the statute. Of course, what 458 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: I wondered too, is that, you know, there's a lot 459 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: of shooters in the NBA that they got open when 460 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: they played with Shack, you know, and I wonder if 461 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: guess what, he's got a couple of shocks on this scene. 462 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well but not where he's coming from. They're 463 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: not as good as I'm talking about Clowney and what coming, 464 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, kind of forcing the guy up, and it's like, oh, 465 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: he's right in my face. So no belief in Quinn 466 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: and d Law. Yeah, I'm not saying that. Just wonder 467 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: if are they as good? I mean, which one would 468 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: you take them? As a tandem. I'm not saying that 469 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: they're not as a tandem. I'm not sure. As a 470 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: best player, I think Wat's better than all of them, 471 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: but I think as a tandem, I mean, Clowney's a 472 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: guy that he'll show No, Clowney will show up in games. 473 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: Cone who also disappearing games. That's why they have money. 474 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: Is in a franchise tag dispute. And Robert Quinn got 475 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: traded here for day three picks. Yeah, yeah, but there's 476 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: a reason why they haven't signed him to a long term. 477 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: It's okay to say they're not the bed like two 478 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: No, no no, no. All I'm saying is you go back 479 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: and look at high Criticism is valid, but I will 480 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: take I'll take good. All I'm saying is is, let's 481 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: let's see if the Cowboys can give that kind of 482 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: outside pressure h the way, you know, and make Covington 483 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of show up there. But but when you look 484 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: at him, he looks like really wide, like he's just 485 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: got his shoulders and he's defensive time. That's great, Yeah, 486 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: it's great for time. Actually, uh, Antoine Woods looks like 487 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: he's kind of slimmed down a little bit. Yeah, I 488 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: think I buy that. Yeah, he's been working hard this offseason. 489 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: He posts it on social media all the time. And 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: that's not a shot, Like I think it's cool to 491 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: watch and he's that if he takes the next step 492 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: and that he could be really good at he said 493 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: videos year, but well, oh he's good at editing videos. 494 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: That's not him. That's another gay. Yeah they look the same, 495 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: but he gets y'all's inside jokes. Carry offten. He's doing 496 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: all the like badass. We have an employee who happens 497 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: to look a lot like you know, funny things our 498 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: great friend carry loft. There were some fans on the 499 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: sideline a couple of days ago and they were like, 500 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: why is Antoine Woods carrying a camera? Yeah? Literally as 501 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: ever they said that it's it's like it's uncanny. That 502 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: tells you that people really think he looks like him. 503 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: But um, what else? Oh no, I mean, Antoine's contractor 504 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: year is different from Malik's contractor year. He's an exclusive 505 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: rights free agents. All the Cowboys have to do is 506 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: like check the box on his deal and he comes 507 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: back back. But they don't have to I mean if 508 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: he's just not good this year, they find a better option. Yeah, 509 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: and there's a reason why he got um Drew Rosenhouse 510 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: as his agent. Yeah, Like he got Rosenhouse this year. 511 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: So um, you know he's expecting some some big things. 512 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: But but I am you know, I mean, you know, 513 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: nothing feels written in stone to me other than that 514 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: Malik is probably your first choice three tech if he's healthy, 515 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: and he has been. He hasn't had a hiccup this 516 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: offseason at all, which is new for him. Like he's 517 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's the guy that he's broken his foot 518 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: in the off season a couple of times, so that's encouraging. 519 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: And I ride off Ross all the time, like I 520 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: just forget about him and just say he was until 521 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: he makes a few He was Christian Covington last year. 522 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: You're like, you know, his stat sheets not very impressive, 523 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: but when you watch the games, you're like, oh damn, 524 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: there's Daniel Rosso then. Yeah, but you know Will McClay 525 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: he has he's a good track record of getting some players. 526 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: And you know, the guys that Will likes stick around. 527 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: I remember he liked Lance Lenore when no one else 528 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: really did. And he's still around and I believe he 529 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: likes Rico Gathers and he's still around and he really 530 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: likes the Daniel Wise because he's a good player. And 531 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: then also he's a family friend as well. I mean 532 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: his dad was on his coach and staff and that. 533 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, but I'm not saying that Will McClay 534 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: would do that or anybody does that, but that's how 535 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: it opens the door to get there. He's rooting for 536 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: the kid, and if he continues to play well, he'll 537 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: be around. If I had to give like a no 538 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: name to jump out, Daniel Wise would definitely be on 539 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: the short list. He I mean, he's done, he's done 540 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: some work out here against his end of the depth chart. 541 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: To paraphrase from Brian broad Us, like you know, we'll 542 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: see when he gets a chance to go against the 543 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: big boys and the starters. But I'm I'm intrigued by 544 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: his talent and I think they had I think they 545 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: had a fourth round grade on him. They had a 546 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: nice grade on him, and they got him undrafted. So 547 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: so looking at those guys, Daniel Ross, who we talked 548 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: a little bit about, Christian Covington, Tristan Hill, Daniel Wise, 549 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: which of those guys if he had to say today, 550 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: one of them is going to make the biggest impact 551 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: of the backups. Which of those guys you think it 552 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: is Covington? Yeah, I think ye. He's got the body 553 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: to play one, and he's played end in the three four, which, like, 554 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: I think he's got some more pass rush to him 555 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: then maybe some of these other guys. And that's you know, 556 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about the one in the three, 557 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: but interchangeabilities so much for these guys. I think I 558 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: think he could probably play one but also disrupt the 559 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: pocket as well. And he's got the NFL experience. I mean, 560 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: he's started games in the NFL. Um and and again, 561 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: this depth chart is other than Malik and Antoine's actually 562 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: other than Malik and Tristan Hill. Really, I think it's 563 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: nothing is really written in stone. So I like his thoughts. 564 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: You think he could get his way onto the field 565 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: in pass rush situations, because that's the tough part about 566 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: this team. They have guys, and in particular guy like 567 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford who who can who are defensive ends, but 568 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: that can play defensive tackles, so you get him into 569 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: pass ruch situations. They actually want to get those guys 570 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: on the field as defensive tackles, which makes the defense 571 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: they've actually they've got They've got another one in Carrie 572 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Hyder who's played both and he's been he's only worked 573 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: at ends since he got here, but he can do both. 574 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: So you know what, I was just looking at another 575 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: guy that I wouldn't be surprised if they see if 576 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: he could do both. As Joe Jackson, he's six four 577 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: two eighty five on the sheet, there's no way and 578 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: there's a reason they can't get him to two ninety. 579 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: That would be the same size as as Daniel Wise 580 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: and on that so he could be a guy that 581 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: moves inside and play some defensive facul That's that's the 582 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: fun thing about this. All right, Let's let's go through it. Guys, 583 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Stone Cold locks to be here on the defensive line. 584 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, um MALIEK Collins, Robert Robert Quinn, 585 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. All Right, I'll give you Antoine. I don't 586 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: know that you can definitely say that's a Stone cald Lock, 587 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: but I have a hard tip to get a guy 588 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: goes from starter to off the team. But yeah, go ahead, 589 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I'll give you I'll even give you six. That's still 590 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: probably any a minimum of three, if not four spots 591 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: that are up for grabs, and I can't I couldn't 592 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: tell you who those guys are. I will tell you this. 593 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I think as much as you can probably make him 594 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: a locked at least make the team and we this 595 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: is kind of moving over into the other position, but 596 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: I think Darren's Armstrong's probably on that. Let's have a 597 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: hard time thinking he's not on this team based on 598 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: other than so far. Okay, yeah, all right, guy, he 599 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: looks really good, looks really and he's a guy that 600 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: was a draft pick last year. He looked good last 601 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: year when he got some opportunities at times. Right, fourth 602 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: fourth round is the magical round where it doesn't matter 603 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: that you were a draft pick. Like if he doesn't 604 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: show it here, they don't care. But my point is 605 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: with a big round and actually played and did pretty well, 606 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: that's what makes me think he it's hard. He has 607 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: to really screw it up to not make the Through 608 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: two days of practice, I think he makes the team. Yeah, 609 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: he looks really good, but I mean it's a long month. 610 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: Like if he doesn't, if he has a bad month, 611 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: then they're not like, oh my god, he was. He 612 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: was picked one twenty something. We can't go him. You 613 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: say fourth round, I say fifth round because I think 614 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson's gonna have to be terrible for him not 615 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: to make the round as a rookie. Ryan Russell, but 616 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: he was around for a little bit. I mean, I 617 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: know Mary ross Or cuts his rocky year. They put 618 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: him on them, they put him on the practice squad, 619 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: but he was he did not stick around. Okay, you're right. 620 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Let's see if Marinelli dog cusses Joe Jackson like he did. 621 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: Ryan wrestle every day, then yeah, and that was what 622 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: I asked. Y'all are terrible. Y'all are kind of contradicting me. 623 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Y'all are like, I feel really good about this guy. 624 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying stone cold. Yeah, I are here. There's no 625 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: arguing about it. That's right. You're right. And if you're 626 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: looking at that, then yeah, you're probably right. There's only 627 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: probably six guys that are stone cold locks to be here. 628 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: But that's probably better than any other position. Think about 629 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: stone cold locks and the percentage of the roster. The 630 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: only other thing I could say would be tied in 631 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: tight end. You got probably three stone cold locks there 632 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: and that's yeah. But when running back, what's running back? Yeah? One? Two? Yeah, Yeah, No, 633 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: that's fair, it's totally fair. Trying to think of their 634 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: quarter positions. I mean receiver receiver. Your quarterbacks are locks. Ye, 635 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: your wide receivers are lot. So I think defense line, 636 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: when you look at it that way, it's probably a 637 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: little bit better than other positions. It's yes, offensive defensive 638 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: line probably are the ones where you got to defensive 639 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: line that's pretty lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Encouraging the talent, yeah, 640 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean if you're doing it by percentage, then probably 641 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: eighty percent of your own line it's locked in. Yeah, 642 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: but I was gonna say, I'm super encouraged by the 643 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: talent level on both of the lines. Yeah, that's true. 644 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: We'll take another show to get into that. Um let's 645 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: talk about the defensive ends though, And I want to 646 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: transition between defensive tackle and defensive end by talking about 647 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: a guy that plays both defensive tackle and defensive end. 648 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford not practicing right now, but when he comes back, 649 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: he is a guy that's being able to do both, 650 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: being able to do both both fairly well, where do 651 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: you think he best fits on this team where now 652 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: you have a Robert Quinn who's starting at that opposite 653 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: defensive end position from tank. Where do you think Crawford best? 654 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: I think Tyrone Crawford will wear number ninety eight, and 655 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: that's the only thing I know about him. I don't know. 656 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll play week one. I don't 657 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: know if he'll be an end. I don't know if 658 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: he'll be a tackle. I don't know if he'll be 659 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: a captain. I don't even know how many reps he 660 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Tyrone other than he will 661 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: wear ninety eight. I'll tell you this, the man, the 662 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: man looks yoked like. And you know we've talked about it. Obvious. 663 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: You know his versatility isn't his asset. I think Nick 664 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: always makes a great point. Maybe works against him a 665 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: little bit because they'll just well, we can throw Tyrone there. 666 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: But he's been working, and I like, it doesn't look 667 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: like he changed to play defensive tackle. It just looks 668 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: like he was like, I'm gonna set personal bests in 669 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: the squat all year, and that's what I'm gonna do. 670 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Because him and DeMarcus Lawrence were out here doing rehab 671 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: like two days ago, and I was like, if you 672 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: if I didn't know anything about this team and I 673 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: had to guess which one was the All Pro just 674 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: based on how impressive they looked, I would pick Tyrone. 675 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: His thighs are like tree trunks, Like he looks like 676 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: he's been working really hard. Good for him. Um, yeah, 677 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. And that annoys me because that's the 678 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: debate I have with brought us all the time, where 679 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: like Brian will sit here and tell me till I'm 680 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: blue in the face that right end is the one 681 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: that matters, and you gotta gotta get the corner, and 682 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: the left end is the less talented one. But here 683 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: you got an all pro play and left end. And 684 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: all due respect to Tyrone Crawford, he does not have 685 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: that freakish bend and athleticism that helps you play right end. 686 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: But he's been man in that position for two years. 687 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: So you're gonna tell me that he fits better at 688 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: right end, even though that's the one that's supposed to 689 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: be the more athletic position. But do you think that 690 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: him getting bigger affects that? And maybe he's getting bigger 691 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: because he's more of going to be a defensive tackle 692 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: this year. I don't, like I said, his body doesn't 693 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: look like that like him. He looks bigger, but he 694 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: doesn't look like he has You got to make changes, 695 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: you know, Like he leaned up a couple of years 696 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: ago to play in and he still looks that way. Yeah, 697 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: so no, I just I think he's gonna be a 698 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: really useful and versatile third end. That's what I think 699 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: about Tyrone. And he could probably play either side if 700 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: I wanted him too. So taking him out of the 701 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: mix for a second, who do you think is the 702 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: third best pass rusher on this team? You've got Tank, 703 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: You've got Robert Quinn. I want a table Tyrone Crawford 704 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: for a second, of guys like Dorn's Armstrong and Carrie Hider, 705 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, tackle Charlton. Who do you think is the 706 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: third best pass rusher on this team? Well? The third 707 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: And we're not gonna We're not gonna throw out Randy 708 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: because Randy's not here just yet, but go ahead. Is 709 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: that where you're gonna go Randy? Yeah? How about your 710 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith? I'm not even really kidding, like, no, I know, 711 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: but give me a defensive in I hope it's doing. 712 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I have this. I think that one 713 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: of these rookies is gonna step up. I really do. 714 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: And I just don't know what. I think Jalen Jokes 715 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: is going to really emerge. I don't know why, I 716 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: just do. What have you seen? Okay? I saw him? 717 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: Noock Rico gathers to the ground on something. Somebody showed 718 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: me a clip. What were you what were you gonna say? No? 719 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: What do you? Guys? Keep talking? And I keep a dog, 720 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: but MP in the place for manners. No, if if 721 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: four people are just going at it, it creates too 722 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: much chaos. So I'm living up to you guys. Keep going. No, 723 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: forget it now it's gonna say Darrence. I'm sure it's 724 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: a guy that I've been keeping my eye on and 725 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: I have high hopes for him because he's a guy 726 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: that DeMarcus Lawrence has taken for whatever reason. He's taking 727 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: him under his wing and has decided to coach up 728 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: this guy and teach him about life even outside of 729 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: the football field. You know. So when you got a 730 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: guy like DeMarcus Lawrence who is proven and and does 731 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: the things that he does that he does, I would 732 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: expect um Dorance Armstrom to be able to soak up 733 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: all of that knowledge. Now mentally, I don't know how 734 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: much he's there. And I say that with caution. I 735 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I've had conversations with him and it's just 736 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm like talking to somebody right now, 737 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, like it's kind of strange, but physically I'm 738 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: not trying to say something bad, but you know what 739 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: I mean. But you know some players that are like 740 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: that that has not flashed a lot of personality to 741 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: this point in his career, which because it might not 742 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: be about his mental capacity, he's not personable or maybe 743 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: just nervous talking to you. I don't know how many 744 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: words maybe what are both? I'm just saying I've heard 745 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: Malik Collins say about eight words since he got here. 746 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: Like some guys just aren't like that. Yeah, Larry Allen, Yeah, seriously, 747 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: I'm not going off of that about his no Mass experience. Yes, 748 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm not just going some bad ones very good no 749 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: Moss either, but go ahead. No, But basically, when you 750 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: have a mentor like DeMarcus Lawrence who's willing to coach 751 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: you up and take you under his wing, even outside 752 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: of the football field, hang out with him and do 753 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: all these things together. I would hope that it kind 754 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: of washes off on him and like he absorbs all 755 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: of that and he translate onto the football field. I 756 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to, you know, steam the hype 757 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: train up too fast, too soon. But it just looks 758 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: different when a guy that size can dip his shoulder 759 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: and bend the corner like that. And I've seen Dorin's 760 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: armstrong do that and that's regularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's exciting. 761 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: So we're about something. Oh, I think it's about time 762 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: for a break. It is time for a break. We're 763 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna take a final break when we come back. A's 764 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna have a little oh no for us. We are. 765 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little see no, we'll do that 766 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: when we come right back. This is the Dallas Cowboys 767 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: dot com reheal well. A player can look good on paper, 768 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: it's when he's out on the field that you really 769 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: find out what he's made of. 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They are still the 809 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: official crown of all self prospecting Cowboys and Stetson is 810 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: proud to be on the field with America's team. Find 811 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: steps and hats in the pro shop or at Stetson 812 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Today. Back to the Break, Welcome back. It 813 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: is the final segment of the Break before the day 814 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: from ox dot California. There are no practices today, We'll 815 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: be back on the field. The team will be back 816 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: on the field tomorrow. Makes you stay tuned for that. 817 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: Let's jump into a little seat, un No, am, But 818 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: what do you have for us? Well, I see a 819 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of people starting to talk about trading. So it's 820 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: that time of year, baby, Ezekiel Elliott, We're going to Yeah, 821 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: do you see the Cowboys going that route down the 822 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: road in the near future, trading Ze for something else? 823 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: There's nobody out there that you can trade for right 824 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: now with him to get value at all. I mean, like, 825 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: you can't even trade to pay a draft pick because 826 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's gonna be good, bad or whatever. 827 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: So if you trade me your first round pick, like, 828 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: what does that do? I've seen that. I've seen that 829 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: twice where the Cowboys have traded for next year's one 830 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: and the team kind of got hot and ended up 831 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: going you know, seven to nine, and in giving you 832 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: a twentieth pick for Zeke, I need the top five 833 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: pick because I picked him number four and he's been 834 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: better than that. So I like that. First of all, 835 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get on my soapbox as quickly as possible, because, 836 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: like do it Dave. Three weeks ago, I, me and 837 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh were sort of bantering about what it might 838 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: look like if the team moved on from Zeke and 839 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: everybody lost their damn mind, like we were just the 840 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: stupidest people on earth, and why would we want to 841 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: get rid of Zeke? Dude misses two days of practice 842 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: and everybody in the world thinks he's not that good 843 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: and they want to get rid of him, and it's bs. 844 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the hypocrisy. On 845 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: top of that, what what are you doing? What do 846 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: you do? Like, what's this deal? You're gonna trade him 847 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: for a pick and then you know, we'll roll forward 848 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: into the season with Alfred Morris, Darius Jackson, and Tony 849 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: Pollard good luck And you might hear that from them 850 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: or some other people. I've no, that's a terrible idea. 851 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: No offense to those guys, you're not accomplishing your goals 852 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: as a team that way. To anybody for a pick, 853 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: it's got to be a player would have to be 854 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: involved because and who is this team? Who is this 855 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: team that wants him? Like, oh, trade for Duke Johnson? 856 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: Why isn't that? Why do they want him? They've got 857 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb on a cheap contract, who can do what 858 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: they need him to do. He needs to be a 859 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player, because don't give me a pick, because 860 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: I guarantee you that Zeke's gonna make that team better. 861 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: So that pick's gonna be. Who are these teams out 862 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: there that want Zeke that would give up the pick 863 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: and also have a good running back to give because 864 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: I need that, Like I need a replacement running back again, 865 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what's your cutoff there of good running are 866 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: you talking about? You need somebody that's the caliber of 867 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: a top five running back in the league. I need 868 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: a bell Cow Okay? I mean, like if you told 869 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: me I could get Duke Johnson in a trade and 870 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: a pick or two, Like, all right, that's not absurd. 871 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: Not a bell Cow guy, right, He's at least he 872 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: could at least be a lead dog and he can 873 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: catch and do all. Like he's a well rounded guy 874 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: who can do everything and play the majority of the snaps. 875 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: And if Pollard's getting some snaps and then a third 876 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: running back, we can make that work, right, And that's 877 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: why I'm trying to figure out, like what that cutoff is? 878 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: What kind of player would be? The kind of player 879 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: you would say, Hey, if I had that guy that 880 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: would be good enough with this offensive line to be 881 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: able to make my team in a perfect like just 882 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: an in a vacuum, if you sent me Duke Johnson 883 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: and a valuable pick like first, preferably first, but maybe 884 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: even second round. Like I'm listening, Yeah, okay, but like 885 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: why would the Browns do that. They've like, they've got 886 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, They've got this, they got that, Like they 887 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: don't they don't the reason why why Duke Johnson is 888 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: wanting to be trades? They already got a guy. Yeah yeah, 889 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: so I just you know, I can go research this, 890 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: but I don't see a team out there that fits 891 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: this magical criteria. Or I mean, if Duke Johnson was 892 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: really worth anything, they wouldn't have drafted Nick Chubb high 893 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: in the second round. Anyways, I mean, they wouldn't have 894 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: gone to get Kareem Hunt after that, Like they don't 895 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: really value him as a good player. So there's there's 896 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: nobody you could really pay the guy. You're like, just 897 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: sign him. I've said this, you're talking about injuries, Like 898 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: what injury? I mean? I thought about this earlier. I 899 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: was like, the only thing I'm worried about is Zeke's deliverer. 900 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: That's it, seriously, just because don't go out there and 901 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: be partying it up in Cabo. That's it. Don't be 902 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: partying all the time. Come back here and be ready 903 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: to play. That's it. He'll be ready, He'll be ready. Well, 904 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: here's another running back question. Will you consider Sean Barkley 905 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: a better running back than seek? If plugged into this Cowboys? 906 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: He's a better running back than Zeke on that team. 907 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: And I don't even like, I don't have to mince 908 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: words because Zeke Elliott said that himself. He said that 909 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: before sa Quan came out. He was like, he's better 910 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: than me. He's gonna be better than me. Is the 911 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: best in the league in my opinion, right He's it's 912 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: hard to argue with what he did on a sorry 913 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: Giants team here, and yeah, if he was here, I 914 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: mean take him number one. Baker is gonna be there 915 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: at four. I mean some of the thing about it 916 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: is you look at some of the things, you look 917 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: at some of the things he did last year with 918 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: a really really suspect offensive line. That's when you know 919 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: you got somebody that's really really special, you know. And 920 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: so that's where I mean, Zeke has done everything he's 921 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: done at the NFL. And this is not to take 922 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: away from Zeke. Zeke has been phenomenal, but he did 923 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: it with a really really great offensive line. Quans not 924 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: and I think that just shows kind of the difference. 925 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: It's it's one of the reasons why when you talk 926 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: about best all time, I'm one of those guys that 927 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: kind of defers over to Barry Sanders because he did 928 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: it most of his career without an offensive line. I 929 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: don't think I mean, I'm sorry Cowboys fans, I don't 930 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: think you can argue that well. There are a lot 931 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: of people that do, and I think it's a fair argument. Obviously, 932 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: the numbers say that that it's the best all time. 933 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: I just think personally, when you look at his offensive line, first, Barry, 934 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: we can do another show on that, all right, but 935 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: well the other and you know this is worthwhile too. 936 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't heard. I just want to say 937 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: this that sounded very Mickey like. But but to the 938 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys I believe were two and seven when without when 939 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: they played without him, it so that awesome Offen. Now 940 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: he meant he meant a lot to their He meant 941 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: a lot. He meant a lot to their team. He 942 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: was probably, in my opinion, probably their most valuable player. 943 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: As though you know they'll give credits a lot of 944 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: the people, that's not the point I'm making. The point 945 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm making is we just talk about just running back skill. 946 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: I think Barry had a skill that was different than anybody, 947 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion, be different than anybody in the in 948 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. I agree. I haven't seen 949 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: I haven't seen sa Quon Barkley's name in very many 950 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: non football headlines since he came into the league. And 951 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: that's something that helps too. Yeahs, I mean, yeah, he's 952 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: yeah all around, it's a better total package. Not I mean, 953 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: Zeke's great too, but yeah, see see yeah, see sorry, 954 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: we all all we talked about Molly Callings and him 955 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: being injury prone. Would you expect him to be to 956 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl this year? Ceo, No, I've been 957 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: burned by that before. I mean, you know, he had 958 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: five and a half sacks as a rookie. If he 959 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: can stay healthy, see if he can stay healthy, yes, 960 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: but I just that hasn't been there for him. I 961 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: say no, not because I don't think. I think he's 962 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: gonna have a really good year. I think when we 963 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: finished talking about this, we're gonna be like in that 964 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: dilemma of man's he's worth some money. Now my problem 965 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: is as a defensive tackle, is he going to be 966 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: better than Fletcher Cox? He's gonna be better than Aaron Donald. 967 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: Like that's the point when you start talk about Pro Bowl, 968 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: you start talk about Pro Bowl. It's hard to make 969 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. It's easier than ever to make the Pro 970 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: Bowl too, like with alternates and people start Super Bowl. 971 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: Tell Fletcher Cox needs to get his shoulder cleaned up 972 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: in January so he bows out. I mean, yeah, I 973 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't say he'd be health the first team defensive tackle, 974 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: but I could see him making it all right, Well, 975 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, Yeah, sixteen games, Well, wnt be 976 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: the touchdown? Leader in Cowboys history by the end of 977 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: this season, is it. I don't even know. I think 978 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this at the Star before 979 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: we came out here, and like I waved it off 980 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: as being crazy, and then I realized he's only like 981 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: four behind behind this. I think he's got six behind 982 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: because he needs six to break it. No, they can't, 983 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: hear our producer. Yes, he ain't get he needs six 984 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: to break it and getting six touchdowns thanks you remember 985 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: he's average is gonna get five and he got he 986 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: still needs five his career isn't that couldn't His career 987 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: average is like exactly five, and I want to say 988 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: he had five in his final year here, like he 989 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: he really took a downturn in like like fifteen sixteen, 990 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: he had like three each year, but that he put 991 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: up five and seventeen. I don't think. So It's like 992 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: that is the perfect like over under question, like it's 993 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: it's plausible, but it won't necessarily be easy. I'm gonna 994 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: say no. I'm gonna say yes just because it's fun, 995 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: like when too many other guys are gonna get touchdowns 996 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: for his team, and I don't think he'll say yesterday. 997 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: I think that when he other guys get there, guys 998 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: in the red zone. But I think Jarwin will be 999 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: a guy that they'll throw two more in the red 1000 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: zone than than Witten. And I don't think Whitten's the 1001 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: kind of guy that's just you know, breaking it from 1002 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: twenty eight yards out right. Say't get off me. It's 1003 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna be writing these Fountain of Youth headlines in 1004 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: like October, just like Jason Witten has four touchdowns after 1005 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: six games. I mean, I'm sort of joking possible. Like 1006 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: I said, it's more fun. It'd be clearer when you're joking. 1007 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: It's more fun to think it could happen. So I'm 1008 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 1: gonna say yes. See, if the defense is top five 1009 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: this year and the Cowboys don't make the NFC Championship Game, 1010 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: is a new code head coach on the current staff, 1011 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,479 Speaker 1: Regardless of where the defense is ranked, if they don't 1012 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: get you know what, they're right, If you got a 1013 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: top five that's that's a good question. It took me 1014 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: a second to realize that, So say it again. Say 1015 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: it again again. If the defense is top five this 1016 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: year and the Cowboys don't make the NFC Championship game. 1017 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: Is the new head coach? Well you really can? I 1018 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: can I answer? Can I ask the question? Is going 1019 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 1: to be the head coach of this team? If? If 1020 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: they if they do well, the defense holds up, it's 1021 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: end of the bargain. But Jason Garrett, remember coordinator. Yeah, 1022 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: that's the funny part about all of this. Really, that's 1023 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: a good question. It is a good question. And I 1024 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: will say see wait, see that means the head coaches 1025 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: on this staff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's really hard. I'm 1026 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: gonna say no because wait, can I Gellen? I want 1027 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: to say the next the next coach of and I 1028 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: think the world of Christoph Shard and the next coach 1029 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys, whether it's this year or five 1030 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 1: years from now, will be a splash year higher than 1031 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: just promoting your defensive coordinator unless splash though, unless unless 1032 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: unless your defense is so good that people are that 1033 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: the identity this of this team changes. This started to 1034 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 1: happen last year where people were talking about this defense, 1035 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: where they were talking about this in this hypothetical world 1036 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: where this is a thing. Chris Richard's gonna get a 1037 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: meeting with Jerry and Stephen Jones and he will blow 1038 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: them away. Absolutely, he will wow them his personality, his 1039 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: level of engagement, his passion, his level of preparation, all 1040 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. Like if he gets a chance to interview, 1041 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,439 Speaker 1: you can't bet against that. There's no way that there 1042 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: is an opening with the Dallas Cowboys as the head coach. 1043 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: And unless the defense falls apart this year and he 1044 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: is not a candidate, I just think, you know, unless 1045 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be, and I don't want to 1046 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: but that would be the only that would be the 1047 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: only way that I don't see him as a potential candidate. Now, 1048 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: whether he gets a job or not, that's a whole 1049 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: different thing for sure. That's what I can't imagine that interview. 1050 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: That he doesn't get an interview. You got to get 1051 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: an interview. I just yeah. I don't want to throw 1052 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: out names because I don't want to prompt speculation, But 1053 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: there are just some there are some big fish that 1054 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: this team could go after if that were the case. 1055 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: And I think he got his interview last year. All 1056 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: last year, that was an interview. All that's all you 1057 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: need to look. Cut my eyes fair to say that 1058 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: the four of us are big were members of the 1059 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: christoph Shard fan club, as is most of Cowboys Nation, 1060 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, like he got if they weren't 1061 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: fans before that video of him, you know, kind of 1062 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: rustling and wrestling with the Eagles before the game. Like 1063 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: that's when fans are like, oh, we're in on this 1064 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: everything he did. You see the photo that Jeremiah, our 1065 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: team photographer, took yesterday where it was Jeff Heath's pick, 1066 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: and like he got the perfect Like Richard is like 1067 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: up in the air with his fists up, just freaking out. 1068 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, he's awesome. If he's not and he's 1069 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: not the defensive coordinator, but the way he is out 1070 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: here on the field, you would think he was the 1071 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: defensive pointator. He's interacting with players from every position on 1072 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: the entire defense. So yeah, all right, here's the last one. 1073 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 1: Is the old line as good as twenty sixteen? See 1074 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: let's see Let's rock. Yeah. I think Travis just ask 1075 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: good or better? I just thought about something, how do 1076 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: you quantify that like Sachs allowed rushing yards? I mean, 1077 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: how do you quantify better? As of this moment, I 1078 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,439 Speaker 1: don't know if I can say that because I don't 1079 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: know that I've seen yet that Connor's gonna be as 1080 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: good as Ron Leary was before he left the Cowboys. 1081 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: It's two days into camp. It's obvious. I mean, I 1082 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 1: could say we haven't seen enough to all these questions 1083 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: and justified, but even as of two days in camp, 1084 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen him be better than Ron Leary. 1085 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: I saw him sit down on Malie Collins yesterday in 1086 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: a way that I one hundred percent don't think he 1087 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: could have done. Excuse me it was I think it 1088 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 1: was Daniel Ross, not Malie Collins. But I don't think 1089 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: he could have done it last year. Fine, he won, Okay, 1090 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 1: let me come on, man, right, he won a golf 1091 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: cart for his offseason and conditioning work, like he is 1092 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 1: Zach Martin junior. Like they gave it. No, no, no, 1093 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't obvious. I mean Zack Martin's going on to 1094 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. That's not what I mean. But 1095 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 1: like they gave him a binder. They were like, here's 1096 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: how you turn your body into Zach Martin. And he's 1097 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 1: just been following it like to a t. So I 1098 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 1: think he has made the strides to be better. Lyle 1099 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: Collins is in a contract year even Travis Frederick a 1100 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: year removed away from the game. I think should be 1101 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty damn good. And then your other two are Hall 1102 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: of famers or maybe so. Yeah, I think they should 1103 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: be pretty good to feel optimistic about. I do too, 1104 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be really good. My point, though, 1105 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: is I think at the point of where where Ron 1106 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: Leary was right before he left the Cowboys, that offensive 1107 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 1: line to me was the best office of head because 1108 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: he had an ass. But Connor Williams got an ass. 1109 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: Now that's my point. I didn't go there. But hey, 1110 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, we don't have access to the drops, don't 1111 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: want to hit. I guess we can want one more. Okay, 1112 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill will be the best rookie of the two 1113 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: nineteen draft class. Nick thinks it's gonna be Jalen Jolkes, 1114 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: but hey, go ahead, Hey yeah, I'll say no because 1115 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: I got the whole field. Yeah, I just don't the 1116 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 1: way the way they rotate a defensive tackle, like I 1117 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: just I wonder how much of an impact will have 1118 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: a chance to make. I mean, Malik Malik did have 1119 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: five sacks five and a half sacks as a rookie, 1120 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: but Pollard is the obvious one. I think he's the 1121 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: on's gonna get more opportunities than anybody else if I 1122 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 1: can't choose Pollard, Yeah, maybe Hill, like Jackson, maybe Mike Jackson, 1123 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 1: the corner, Donovan Wilson. Not no, because even if those 1124 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: guys make the team, they'll be like Game Day and actors. Right, 1125 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: It's it's got to be Pollard. I mean, he's a 1126 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: lot's going to get the opportunity. Pollard, Hill, Pollard or Hill. 1127 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: I feel like those are the only logical answers. Yeah, 1128 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: everybody else won't probably won't be playing unless you got 1129 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: some major injuries. They're probably not gonna be playing much 1130 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: this year except for special teams possibly. Yeah, I agree. 1131 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 1: All right, we appreciate those A good game. I was loud, Okay, 1132 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: good game. We'll be back tomorrow. We appreciate you guys 1133 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: joining us. We'll get back out of our normal time tomorrow. 1134 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 1: It'll be ten am time. That'll be noon for you 1135 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 1: guys back in Dallas. And also, just a quick note, 1136 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 1: I said earlier that the Sunday scrimmage, the Blue eight scrimmage, 1137 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: was going to be in on TXA. I'm sorry he 1138 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: was gonna be on CBS. Eleven in Dallas. It's actually 1139 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: gonna be on TSA twenty one in Dallas, So for 1140 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 1: those of you out there in the larger area, you 1141 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: can get it across all of our platforms. Will be 1142 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: streaming it live, so you can check it out on Sunday, 1143 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: and then for you guys in Dallas, you can check 1144 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: it out on TSA twenty one. All right, we appreciate 1145 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: you joining us. So then for Nick Eatman, Dave helm 1146 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: and Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagles and this has been 1147 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This 1148 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 1149 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club