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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansas, and I come to you from a virtual

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Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys? I take umbradge with that little intro.

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Speaker 1: We're stronger than the NFC East. It's the day after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: and look at us like we're the fittest, smartest, most

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Speaker 1: best looking trio on the block. I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, personally, I'm battling like a massive

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Speaker 1: head cold right now. So the fact that anyone on

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Speaker 1: if you're logged in the NFL dot com and watching this,

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Speaker 1: I apologize personally, or if you're listening to yeah, no, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was tough. Thursday. Thursday Thanksgiving this year

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Speaker 1: was you know, they're at the Handsas house. It was

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Speaker 1: was the hardest Thanksgiving ever. I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 1: But my wife and I my wife, and you know,

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Speaker 1: God bless her. She's great, she's cool, she's hot, and

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Speaker 1: she does good stuff in the kitchen. She knows how

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Speaker 1: to cook, but there's just so much to make for Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: even though it's just four of us. And then you

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Speaker 1: have to clean all that, and then the children sessler

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Speaker 1: the children, Greg, they need to be entertained for seventeen

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Speaker 1: straight hours and cleaned up after. I I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you I am less of a man now than I

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Speaker 1: was yesterday morning. I can tell you that fighting through though,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, what was you look great? You You wouldn't

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Speaker 1: know it. Um, that's why you know, that's why I

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Speaker 1: think the move on Thanksgiving. You got a call to

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Speaker 1: helping in the kitchen. So I hear you. It's it's

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Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, I did fry a turkey that was

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Speaker 1: all that anyone's going through. I always look to you

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Speaker 1: you're taking on more and uh, I really do appreciate

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Speaker 1: your efforts. And we have so much to get to

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Speaker 1: here with week twelve on the horizon. But Mark, I

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Speaker 1: What do you do on Thanksgiving? Take the audience through

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Speaker 1: what your Thanksgiving was like? Well, it's rather bleak. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to impress anyone. I mean actually, Uh, Simone's

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Speaker 1: But um, Simone and the kids went and met with

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Speaker 1: So I was home, you know, watching the games, doing

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Speaker 1: But that probably wasn't the best version of Turkey's such

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Speaker 1: a gross, gross description. Sorry, you shouldn't have come to

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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football the other day, hot takes of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Turkey's bad. I mean, can we calm down everyone thinking

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Speaker 1: Big Pirate Ship. Uh, this is a Sunday late game,

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Speaker 1: other team Keenan Allen coming off a six team catch day.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was against the Jets. I think he's

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Speaker 1: the most underrated receiver of the past ten years. I

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Speaker 1: think he's at that level the type of guy that

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Speaker 1: does it week in and week out, year after year.

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Speaker 1: And don't don't sleep on that as being a major

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Speaker 1: reason why Justin Herbert has been so good. And now

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Speaker 1: let me lead into my second part here, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tee let me tee Mark up on this because I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure I know Greg's answer. Um, Mark, who would

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Speaker 1: you rather have for the next ten years, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: or Justin Herbert? It's easy for me. It's it's Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: I would take Justin Herbert over any quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: league outside of maybe Patrick Mahomes right now, and I

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe gave him a baby with my homes.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying my homes gets a definitely. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I heard, but I said outside of outside of my homes.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like I'm I've not seen any bad

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Speaker 1: tape on Justin Herbert. And you know, maybe you wonder

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Speaker 1: what will happen in year two when people have a

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Speaker 1: chance to you know, dissect him more. But it's not

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Speaker 1: just about scheme. I just think this guy can do

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Speaker 1: at all. And and like you know, every once in

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Speaker 1: a while, a player comes along and you're just you're

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Speaker 1: watching him and you're saying, bingo. The Chargers are never

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Speaker 1: going to be the same because of this. Well, Alan

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Speaker 1: still has some limitations. I I totally support the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's made the leap and then some. He's been

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Speaker 1: a top six quarterback. I would say this year six

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Speaker 1: or seven. I think the one thing he still needs

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Speaker 1: to improve on in year three is decision making, and

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Speaker 1: he gives the other team a chance a few times

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Speaker 1: a game. He's had eight interceptions over the last six weeks,

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Speaker 1: and I think he can keep getting better because this

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Speaker 1: decision making has absolutely gotten better. His accuracy is through

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Speaker 1: the roof compared to where it was. But I do

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Speaker 1: think kind of when you play the Bills, that comes

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Speaker 1: down to can you make Josh Allen make a few

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Speaker 1: bad decisions. He's gonna give you a chance. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: make a ton of amazing plays too, but he's gonna

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Speaker 1: give the defense a chance to make a couple of plays.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way the Chargers trying to win

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Speaker 1: this game. I mean to Dan's point, though, like the touchdown,

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Speaker 1: two digs would have been the incredible story for the

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Speaker 1: Bills coming out of that game. You got bit by

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Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray, Hail Mary, and when that happens, you

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Speaker 1: forget everything happen a pick right before that, he threw

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Speaker 1: a couple of picks in that game. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to I'm saying it's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you you forgot the picky through right

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Speaker 1: before that, and the Cardinals gonna get I just did

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Speaker 1: not mention it. I didn't a note for the listening

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Speaker 1: audience that Mark wagged his finger at Greg instead very negative.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you were doing that verbally, and I

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Speaker 1: just had to do it, you know, with my good stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, that's a good game. I like that one,

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Speaker 1: and anybody anybody got the charges winning. I do, uh No,

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Speaker 1: I mean in a you know, just up in the sky.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I haven't logged it anywhere officially, but there

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Speaker 1: you go. I do have them keeping it close on

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Speaker 1: NFL game picks dot Com. There you go, that's the website. Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: all right, Greg, you are up on the Snakes. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Broncos Saints in the late afternoon window.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought Taysom Hill would come into the

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Speaker 1: lineup and would be almost under the radar because no

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Speaker 1: one's gonna be watching this game in the late afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like his first start got a little pop,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like he's making everyone a little crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's made this shower, He's made everyone crazy.

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Speaker 1: But there's so many people that came into the game

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Speaker 1: with the agenda that they weren't really buying it. And

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Speaker 1: I would say, I want needed to see something first

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Speaker 1: before I believed anything. But I don't get watching that

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Speaker 1: first game and coming away thinking it was a fluke

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Speaker 1: or thinking that this isn't gonna last, or that the

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Speaker 1: Saints are in trouble. We it's only one game, but

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Speaker 1: that game was encouraging. If any other quarterback had that game,

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Speaker 1: you would say, Okay, let's fly with this, because Taysom

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Speaker 1: Hill's not taking over uh, some garbage team at three

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Speaker 1: and seven. He's taken over a team that's in the

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Speaker 1: top five in d v O A and defense is

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Speaker 1: in the top five in d v O A and

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Speaker 1: special teams and has an incredible running game, of which

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Speaker 1: he's only going to add to So he doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to be a top ten quarterback. He needs to make

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Speaker 1: a few throws. He did that a few times under

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Speaker 1: pressure in the pocket. That's all I needed to see.

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Speaker 1: They look like a very good team, maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the league, whether Taysom Hill is

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Speaker 1: a quarterback or whether Drew Brees that quarterback that they

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Speaker 1: actually and they improved on offense. D v o A wise, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I know that you would appreciate that. Um, they went

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Speaker 1: up a spot after the Hill starts, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: you know, well, I'm just gonna say that, how dare

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Speaker 1: you use d v o A on me? Markt as well? Listen,

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Speaker 1: I know I know how to speak your language, but

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Speaker 1: I vo I'm with you that it's Taysom Hill and

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Speaker 1: like they kind of they kind of had him do

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Speaker 1: things they think he can do. So where's the aberration?

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't he do those same things? Uh? You know

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Speaker 1: this week and against the Broncos defense that played really

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Speaker 1: well against Miami though, and I that was kind of

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Speaker 1: the Broncos performance. I was waiting for. Um, they destroyed

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins on the ground, not being able to do

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Speaker 1: that against the Saints, a Saints team that sacked Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan eight times, a Saints defense that is Super bowlworthy

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Speaker 1: right now. So I'm not expecting that Broncos offense to

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Speaker 1: show up. But I don't see what changes for the

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Speaker 1: Saints too too much in this from an offensive angle,

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Speaker 1: Like we're gonna find out, and we saw what what

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Speaker 1: they did to two last week. Stand for defense plays

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Speaker 1: hard for vig Fagio. They've overcome injuries and the thing

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Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill, and I get it, that's part of

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Speaker 1: this job on on some level, and you want to

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Speaker 1: be ahead of the curve when it comes to judging

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. You don't want to be behind it. But

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Speaker 1: I need to see more from Taysom Hill to see

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Speaker 1: if this is gonna work. And I thought he did

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Speaker 1: nice things um against the Falcons, but it was against

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and it wasn't a kind of a perfect setup,

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Speaker 1: uh for him to get his feet wet. Now, now

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Speaker 1: this is a nice test here, you go on the road,

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Speaker 1: you go to Denver against the defense has just made

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback look silly. And even though Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: I believes in your thirty years old as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he's a baby because this is his second start. He's

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Speaker 1: barely thrown passes in the league before last week, So

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting game for me. I I guess

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Speaker 1: you could say I'll be a believer if he delivers

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Speaker 1: a similar similar performance. Uh, this would do it. But

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Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't go off one game and

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Speaker 1: be like Saints are all set. And I also saw

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Speaker 1: some things like how Alvin Kamara was at part of

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Speaker 1: the passing game, how he can't throw a deep ball,

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Speaker 1: how they played from ahead, what happens if they're from behind?

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Speaker 1: Is he the same type of guy using his legs

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Speaker 1: to get it back in the game. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that presents some limitations for their offense. Potentially we need

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Speaker 1: more time to really figure out if this is gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I don't know if this game is

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you much because I think, like most weeks,

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is going to be part of a great team.

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Speaker 1: And that's more what I'm buying into that, like he

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Speaker 1: can be part of a super Bowl contending team while

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Speaker 1: he's the starter. I don't think he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do much. The Denver defense can't stop the run. The

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Speaker 1: Saints have a dynamic running game, especially with him, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Drew lock is going to be

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Speaker 1: able to survive with no running game behind him. So

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Speaker 1: it's like Taysom Hill might not even need to do

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Speaker 1: much and they could win this game by three scores,

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Speaker 1: and it could be another week where we're just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill was fine. That's all they need for him

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Speaker 1: to be, like his own version of Teddy Bridgewater from Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sean Payton being undefeated with backups over the

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Speaker 1: last two seasons has a lot to do with Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton's great coach. He's a great coach. One last thing

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Speaker 1: to note, Alvin Kamara has some type of foot issue. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They cut down on his snaps last week. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just something to watch because we could talk about

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Speaker 1: the quarterback all day, but Alvin Kamara is the offense

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Speaker 1: runs through him. We'll see what kind of workload he

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Speaker 1: has on Sunday time. Now for a Road to Victory

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Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. We're gonna do a primetime game here,

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers. Mark, I know you're

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Speaker 1: very excited at the prospect of another Bears primetime game,

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Speaker 1: as is the rest of America. But look at the

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Speaker 1: look at the plus side, I think everyone's a little

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Speaker 1: bit bummed out having to watch Nick Foles, and it

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Speaker 1: is trending toward a new quarterback behind center in Chicago. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, let's you know, play the hits when you can,

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Speaker 1: and let's bring Mitch back into the offense to um

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Speaker 1: revive some of the heroics that he unspooled in years

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Speaker 1: of old. Um. I don't know. I you know, it

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Speaker 1: becomes a bit um, it becomes just sort of a

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Speaker 1: tired exercise to take down of old reference today. I

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Speaker 1: think you said weeks of old earlier in the same

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Speaker 1: Now it's just surviving today. That's when I'm in survival mode.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Bears are thirty second and rushing their

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Speaker 1: thirty second on third down, their thirty first in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. Everything that Nick Foles was supposed to come

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Speaker 1: in and do, Um, he didn't do. He didn't stabilize

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Speaker 1: that offense at all. So you know, why not get

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Speaker 1: another look at mitched Busky. I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: means for the future because if he has I mean

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Speaker 1: the most ever, right, I mean, what if he had

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Speaker 1: like four or five games and then he looked good

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Speaker 1: and then they resigned him to a forget all that business.

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Speaker 1: None of that's happening. So it's not none of that's happened.

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Speaker 1: So he's essentially a lame duck first round pick. Right.

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Speaker 1: If someone had declined, you know, an option on me,

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Speaker 1: I would not be feeling too great about anything. So

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Speaker 1: I I think that you know, Mitch probably knows the

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Speaker 1: future Green Bay. You know, you come you're coming off

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Speaker 1: a really rough, a really rough defeat. You've got to

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Speaker 1: find a way to just come in and take care

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Speaker 1: of business. And I think they can. You've got Jalen

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Speaker 1: Johnson on Davante Adams probably in a big part of

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Speaker 1: this game, rookie cornerback for the Bears. He's played all right,

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Speaker 1: but Davante Adams is playing at a different level. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little bit more from Aaron Jones,

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Speaker 1: who hasn't crossed seventy five yards on the grounds and

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Speaker 1: tweak two. I mean he was injured for a bit,

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Speaker 1: but the help well, right, A little nice little X

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Speaker 1: fact would be a strong run game down the stretch here.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a tough matchup for them, though,

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Speaker 1: even though I fully expect the Packers to win, and

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Speaker 1: it'll take Mitchell Trabsky playing a lot better for it

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Speaker 1: to be close. I do think it's a good test

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Speaker 1: for the Packers offense, which is one of the best

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Speaker 1: in the league. But they're going up against a Bears

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Speaker 1: team which I would say has a better defense this

639
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: year than they did a year ago. I would put

640
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: them in the top four. I would say defenses this year,

641
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: and they shut down Aaron Rodgers two different times a

642
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: year ago. And I know the Packers offense is better too,

643
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: but Roquan Smith is making that leap as a middle linebacker.

644
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: He's kind of been a running back killer, and so

645
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: he's a guy who can go around with Aaron Jones,

646
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: whether in the passing game or on the ground, give

647
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: them problems. The Bears defense is very sound, doesn't give

648
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: up a lot of big play, so it's a nice

649
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: test for the Packers when they have the ball. I

650
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think Rogers, you know, goes up and down

651
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: the field. We just don't see it in this matchup.

652
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: It often. Yeah, it sets up well for the Packers

653
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh, They're playing at home, you have Mitch

654
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Drabinski in the lineup. And at the same time, I

655
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: was really you know that loss against the Colts in

656
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: week eleven. It does instill a little bit of doubt

657
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: around the Packers. For me, I had a little bit

658
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: going into the game that they were a good team,

659
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: but just a tier below. And then when you blow

660
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: a two touchdown lead at halftime and you score three

661
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: points in the second half and overtime, uh, total, it's like,

662
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: what's going on? But I guess you could write it

663
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: off as a blip on the radar. They were great

664
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: in the first half against the Colts. And it comes

665
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: down to this with Mike Petton's defense is very up

666
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: and down, as we know, uh, and he has been

667
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: a polarizing figure. Um maybe more of a lightning rod.

668
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: He seems to be not particularly well liked as a

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00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: d C by Green Bay fans. Well, don't don't let

670
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: Mitch Robissi get hot here. Don't don't let this turn

671
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: into some type of like kind of situation where this

672
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: time next week everyone's talking about how the Packers defense

673
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: is a mess and it's gonna kill their chances. Take

674
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: care of business here. This should be a Packers win

675
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: and if it's not, yes, major issues in Green Bay.

676
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 1: Avoid the ponderous narrative. That's always a way to go

677
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: for any football team. So I'm with you Dan these

678
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Bears that this Bears offense is a slump buster. You've

679
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: got a bad defense, you show up and play the Bears,

680
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: Suddenly you're ranking like skyrockets the next week. It's beautiful.

681
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean you did get me thinking now, Mark, Well,

682
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: just like as a fun thought exercise, what if Mitch

683
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Drabinsky returns and he's Patrick mahomes You know what what

684
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: would it take for the Bears to bring back Mitch Drabinsky?

685
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Would it? Would it be mahomesy in play for the

686
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: six weeks? I mean, then then you have Matt Niggy

687
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: telling you all off season we believe in Mr Robinsky. Um,

688
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna build an offense round him. It's

689
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: just like the wheel just keeps going. I want the

690
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: wheel to come off, the vehicle roll off into a

691
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: field and we build a new car. It's just him.

692
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Please excuse me. Sorry, I think it would take him

693
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: saving their jobs. I think they're all together, Naggy, Uh, Ryan, Pace,

694
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: the GM and Trabisky. They're all in the same car

695
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: right now. It's up the Mitch to drive him to safety.

696
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: That that is highly frightening and we talked about on

697
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: the podcast. This week we went through the our Hot

698
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Speaker 1: Butt rankings of head coaches facing danger entering the last

699
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: six weeks. I put Naggie at at fifty chance of

700
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: survival here, Well, we're getting a big win at Lambeau.

701
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: That would help his case. I would imagine mighty fine.

702
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: That was Road to Victory presented by the United States

703
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: Marine Corps. All right, Mark, it is onto you in

704
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Alright, well, I'm gonna go San Francisco at

705
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. You know, I know on our

706
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: our entrevious podcast, Stan, we forked San Francisco and so

707
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, weeks ago, I mean a long time ago,

708
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: weeks gone by, what was it, wait, weeks of old

709
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: that's when we forked them. Um, but they're getting healthier,

710
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: and so you know, forget what you did to them.

711
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: What can they do to a RAMS team that they

712
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: beat about a month ago? Deebo Samuel back at practice,

713
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Raheem Mustard is practicing. I think that is a huge

714
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: difference maker right there. I am a way into Raheem

715
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Mustard as a starting running back who can pummel teams,

716
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: and they've missed that element. They seem to have like

717
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: eighty two running backs on that roster. There's always someone

718
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: that they plug in. But that helps a lot. Richard

719
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Sherman is practicing. So this team that has been as

720
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: banged up UM and you know, Corona adults as any

721
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: team in the league up until a couple of weeks ago,

722
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: UM is getting healthier. I always trust Kyle Shanahan to

723
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: scheme up well against division opponents. But I really love

724
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: that the way that the Rams in general, outside of

725
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: a couple of games, have protected goth only thirteen sacks

726
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: allowed all year, while they are punishing quarterbacks with thirty four.

727
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: So you don't have Garoppolo and there you've got Nick Mullins.

728
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: And there's still a lot of issues with San Francisco.

729
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: So the Rams, after surging the way they have and

730
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: they've won me over to some degree over the last

731
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. UM. This is kind of remind Green

732
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Bay Chicago go in and take care of business against

733
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: a team that's not entirely you can't get swept by

734
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Not this year. I mean, it's a

735
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: big game, and but I do think this is one

736
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: where the old cliche throw out the records when Sean

737
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan face off. It's true if you

738
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: look at these two teams when they've played with these

739
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: two head coaches, whichever team is much better, which has

740
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: been the Rams most of the time, Uh, it hasn't mattered.

741
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: The games have come down to the last possession and

742
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: the result. Earlier this year, as you mentioned, Mark kind

743
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: of points to that the forty Niners dominated that game.

744
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: They're getting much healthier. I think these two coaches understand

745
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: each other so well that they know what they can

746
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: do to stop one another. And the forty Niners are competitive.

747
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: I've really been impressed with their defense. Robert Sala, who

748
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of love last year, maybe you should

749
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: get even more this year because they're so banged up

750
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: and yet they're highly competitive. I just don't expect this

751
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be easy for the Rams. The big challenge

752
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: for Robert Sala. Sala is Cooper Cup and Robert Woods.

753
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that was an unbelievable show they put on

754
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: on Monday Night. I believe they combined for twenty five

755
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: catches a thousand catches. It was something in that range. Uh.

756
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: So you have that element of the offense. That's the

757
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: one thing I'm waiting to see with see with with

758
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles. Now we know the defense is elite.

759
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it's in the top three. I think it's

760
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: it's certainly there with Pittsburgh and New Orleans. For me,

761
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: can the offense take that next leap uh and become

762
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: uh okay, too good? Because if you got a good

763
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: offense and an outstanding defense, now we're cooking so um.

764
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I want to see how they bounce back. Jared Goff,

765
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I think we have a similar viewpoints on him, that

766
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: he's an up and down passer. But if, if, if

767
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has a chance to improve this offense down

768
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: the stretch, that's gonna make them to me to take

769
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: that step and actually be a true NFC Super Bowl contender.

770
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm there yet, but I think

771
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: there's room for growth. Just because I believe in the

772
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: coaching that much. I share your view. I don't like

773
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: the idea of Andrew Whitworth uh not being on the

774
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: line at left tackle right now. That's a big loss.

775
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: They've done a pretty good job with the same cast

776
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: of characters they had mostly a year ago. But that's

777
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: a that's a huge loss in a in a veteran presence.

778
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: When you lose those veteran guys off the offensive line,

779
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: I think it diminishes communication, um and other in other

780
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, things that keep the things running smoothly. So

781
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: if you're golf like that, consistency factor is going to

782
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: be challenged by that. But I'm with you, Dan. If

783
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: they can do what they did last week, um, they

784
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: essentially be unstoppable. It's just not you can't count on

785
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: that week to week in the passing game. Gotta have

786
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: a running game. Both of these teams are kind of

787
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: old school, even though they're you know, led by coaches

788
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: who are thought to be as cutting edge as anyone.

789
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: They are the most run dependent teams I can think

790
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: of in terms of great offenses, and the forty nine

791
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: is getting most there. And possibly Deebo Samuel who's huge

792
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: in the running game too as a blocker and as

793
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: a runner like makes all the difference. I don't trust

794
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: either of these teams when they're not running, and so

795
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: that that's something to watch. This is a good staff

796
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: from Next Gen staff about Andrew Whitworth, their veteran left

797
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: tackle who's out potentially for the year. Uh. Time to

798
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: throw with Whitworth on the field two point seven five

799
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: seconds for golf without him, two point five five air

800
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: yards per attempts seven point one with Whitworth five point

801
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: eight without his completion percentage. Uh, expect the completion percentage

802
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: slightly up. But yeah, he's He's a huge piece of

803
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: this and they survived without him last week. But let's

804
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: see what happens against as Greg said, a bit of

805
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: a frisky Niners defense. All right, let's move on. The

806
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: old suitor is up in the draft, and I'm gonna

807
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: go and get him. I'm gonna go and get the Jets.

808
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the Jets against the Dolphins. Uh. And

809
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: obviously I I started by saying the Jets, but really,

810
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: this game is about the Dolphins and about what happens

811
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: at quarterback. After two, Tongua Volo was benched. Uh. Really

812
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: in a surprise benching. One of those one of those

813
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: moves that if you have your Twitter open, your tweet

814
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: deck open on a Sunday, all of a sudden you

815
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: just see wow, oh wow, whoa and you're like, what

816
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: is this? And you click in and sure enough, there

817
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: it is. Ryan Fitzpatrick had replaced to Uh early in

818
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter against Denver, and he damned near saved

819
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: him UH if not for an interception in the end

820
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: zone by Justin Simmons. So I I think we you know,

821
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: we discussed this len last Sunday show. We don't have

822
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: to relitigate whether or not Brian Flores UH did his

823
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: quarterback dirty um by benching him and what it means

824
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: for the future. I will say this, though, there may

825
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 1: be a method to the madness here that Flores caught

826
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Speaker 1: in between a little bit last week in Denver, on

827
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: a five game winning streak, he said, wait, maybe I

828
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: could try to steal this game and still developed my

829
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and that opened Pandora's box a little bit.

830
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: But at the same time he had to know I

831
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: have the Jets UH. In week twelve, even if Fitzpatrick

832
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: saves the day and everyone's talking about fitz magic, I

833
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: put the kid back in against a rific Jets secondary,

834
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: and we should be able to get things back on track.

835
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Speaker 1: I think that's where this ultimately ends up. Greg. I

836
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: think this ends up with Ta plays well against the Jets,

837
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: and by Sunday night, no one's talking about what happened

838
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: in Denver anymore. Yeah. I mean to quote you know

839
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: the great Jets coach her Med Whords you play to

840
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: win the game. I mean, that's what Brian Flores is

841
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: trying to do. He's trying to make the playoffs. He's

842
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: trying to develop to a wasn't happening in that game.

843
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: This is a team that needs to play with the lead.

844
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: The Jets are a team that is pretty used to

845
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: playing from behind the Dolphins. They want to get ahead

846
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: of the down and distance, and you can usually do

847
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: that against the Jets, and that keeps to a in

848
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: comfortable situations. He was lost last week to UH and

849
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: he his deep ball. I do worry about his health

850
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: right now. He's been on the injury report with a

851
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: foot injury. He's taken some hits and that's why you

852
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: gotta keep an eye on Ryan fits Pagrick. But he's

853
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: not the only young quarterback in this game. We're getting

854
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Sammy d back Sam Donald in a tough match up

855
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: for him. That is that have we done that? I

856
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: don't know if the Dolphins get ahead. Uh, this is

857
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: the team that shut out Joe Flacco. So we don't

858
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: need to see Joe Flacco against the Dolphins anymore. Let's

859
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: see what donalin. I don't need to see Flacco ever. Again.

860
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm all set on that front, even though he's done

861
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: a little bit this year. Yeah, I've had my fill

862
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: of Joe Flacco to not not. I'm sure he's a

863
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: nice person to speak with, Um, you know, in a

864
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: coffee shop. Maybe not a great coffee shop guy. Actually,

865
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: maybe a nice guy. That's totally possible too. I'm just

866
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: on siding with the benefit of the doubt. But I

867
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: mean to his first passes accounting for fifty yards. So

868
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: this is not what we're talking about when we talk

869
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: about like justin Herbert where like the production is out

870
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: of control and so you know, I do give media

871
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: in general some credit. Um, I don't think the place

872
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: set on fire and like created a big firestorm controversy.

873
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: I think we kind of get what the Dolphins were

874
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: trying to do there. Um, I'm as fascinated though, with

875
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: what Sam Donald does um from now to the end

876
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: of the year, because he if he were to play

877
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: lights out, he could essentially wipe out what seems to

878
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: be the plan everyone's accepted in New York. And you know,

879
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: I just wonder what's going through his head because people

880
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: have already moved on to some degree, and you know

881
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: that's what happens to bad teams, you know, surging toward

882
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: the first overall pick. But you know, Sam Dortald, they say,

883
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: hold on a minute, I want to change the narrative

884
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: here and I want to stay here and be your quarterback.

885
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Or maybe he'll be thinking I could be, you know,

886
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: the Bears quarterback a year from now with a whole

887
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: new coach and snap I'd like I'd love to Q

888
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: and a him. Uh yeah, I would listen. I as

889
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, I can tell you that Jets fans

890
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: have moved on and they're looking ahead and they want

891
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: to just reboot the whole machine. Keep Joe Douglas and

892
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: a couple of these pieces they have on the roster

893
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: right now, but and start over. But there is no animosity, uh,

894
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: toward Donald, and it's just a kind of a weird situation.

895
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see him go somewhere man, go

896
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and push Jimmy g next year or something.

897
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see him in a in a healthy,

898
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: uh functional set up. I don't know, if anything. I

899
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: think the best way this is how it would work

900
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: out for the Jets. In the best case scenario, they

901
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: would they lose a bunch of games, thirty eight, thirty five,

902
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: they go one in fifteen or oh and sixteen, get

903
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, uh, draft the kid out of college,

904
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: and then you, because Donald plays great down the stretch,

905
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: you can move him for a late first round pick

906
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: or you know, an early second You like that is

907
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: that is that is the best case scenario for the Jets.

908
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: So it's you're in this weird kind of world where

909
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: this guy that was your great hope, uh Sam, Donald

910
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: is a guy that you're already disconnecting from. But you're right, Mark,

911
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: there is also this world where he lights it up

912
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: and they win three games, and maybe the organization says

913
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep him and use all these other pieces

914
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: to build around him the right way. I look forward

915
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: to watching these last six games for that reason. Go

916
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: in a ball game. I mean, Frank Gore said, the

917
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: entire team is thinking about going oh in sixteen every day.

918
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: These are these are humans here who do not want

919
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: to go down in infamy. They do not want to

920
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: be part of Greg Williams's second oh and sixteen in

921
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: the last four years. This is a potentially win a

922
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: ball game, and it's miserable to be winless. So go

923
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: win a ballgame, same game. Yeah, all right, let's keep

924
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: moving here, Snakes to the old Zeuser, the old Snake

925
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: always a big, big decisions to be made. All right.

926
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: Let me go with Carolina at Minnesota as my third

927
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: game on the schedule. I mean, it's the two of

928
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: the team. Was zeus til easy for me to say

929
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings coming off a really disappointing loss obviously against

930
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that actually looks worse now after what we

931
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: saw from the Cowboys on Thursday UM against Washington. However,

932
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I knew there would be a speed bump at some

933
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: point for the Vikings. I didn't think they were gonna

934
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: win out and there us. So now, if you still

935
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: are a team that's going to be relevant come weeks sixteen,

936
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: in weeks seventeen, which I think the Vikings are You're

937
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: going to take care of business here at home against

938
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: the Panthers and UM, So that's where I stand on

939
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: the Vikings. I don't want to. I'm not deflating all

940
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: the era out of there balloom after what happened last week.

941
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: The Panthers, of course, represent a um difficult challenge because

942
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: they're well coached and they hang around in almost every

943
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: game they play. Where are we at with injuries? Uh?

944
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, I know, has been in the mix this

945
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: week at practice. I believe we're Teddy Bridgewater. I think

946
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: we're getting him back to right Greg, Yeah, we are.

947
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: He's not even on the injury or port Teddy that is.

948
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: So he's starting Russell Kung, their left tackle who's been

949
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: out for a while. Uh is question one has the

950
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: chances And McCaffrey has been limited in practice this week

951
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: throughout the week, and I think there's some optimism here.

952
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Dan. This is the team of

953
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: Zoostil versus the team of Sestl. It's really a battle

954
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: for the hearts and minds of YouTube gentleman. And what

955
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: a coaching job Matt Rule has done. I think they're

956
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: very even teams. I don't think this team of well,

957
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: I've got a number of them. You or die with

958
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: one because you got the Browns. Also, I mean, how

959
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: many teams do you have market I mean witness Suddenly

960
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: there are no rules here. We know that everyone does

961
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: that does as they plead. I've always said the Panthers

962
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: to me, it's not a this year team, but I'm

963
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: really impressed with the way they're coached. And the only thing,

964
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: the one thing that changed for me a little bit

965
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: against the Lions, and they were playing the Lions, but

966
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: they shut them out. Um, they tackled well for the

967
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: first time the Panthers really all they've not been a

968
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: good tackling team on defense. They got five sacks, so

969
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: I think they present some threat to the Vikings. The

970
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Vikings probably would not have lost that Cowboys game without

971
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: those two killer fumbles. It was the strip sack of

972
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and the Dalvin Cook fumble. Cousins played really

973
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: well in that game, and I thought he was in

974
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: pretty good control, so uh, you know that was a

975
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: rug loss. Um. You know, they can't make mistakes. Neither

976
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: one of these teams can make a bunch of mistakes

977
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: and hope to win. So I I think it's a

978
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: fascinating game. Um, I think it's pretty interesting how the

979
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 1: Carolina coached up p J. Walker last week. Other teams

980
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: struggled to even get their starters to play well, so

981
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: that that was notable to me. They they're very similar teams.

982
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: They both struggled to close. If you look at all

983
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: their you know, metrics, in terms of offense defense, they're

984
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: they're pretty similar. The Vikings offense has more juice. I

985
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: mean Kyle Kirk Cousins, remember when we were saying he

986
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: was on pace to have Jamis Winson season. Since that moment, uh,

987
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: he is leading the league in yards per attempt and

988
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: I think he has like nine or ten touchdowns in

989
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: one interception since that moment too, So he's he's playing great.

990
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: But these teams are both like they find ways to

991
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: blow games. And the Vikings to me, are too run heavy.

992
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook has more than twenty five more carries than

993
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: anyone else in the league over the last four weeks.

994
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: It's like thirty a week, and they always set up

995
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Kirk to be thrown in third and seven and he's

996
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: been coming through lately. I don't like that approach. I

997
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: like the path first approached by the Panthers against the

998
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: bad Vikings defense. All right, I mean, I guess I

999
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: could see your point. You want a little bit more

1000
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: balances are still in terms of total offense, a top

1001
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: ten offense the Vikings this year, and Dalvin Cook is

1002
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: their best players. So I understand their temptation to just

1003
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: get the ball in his hands as many times as possible.

1004
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: And you have to say, Greg, even if it feels

1005
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: like he's they're giving them too much work. Kirk cousins

1006
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: revival is directly tied to the fact that this these teams,

1007
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: these defenses fear Dalvin Cook so much. It's all connected, sure,

1008
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: but he's like, if it's only a month, but if

1009
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: you gave him the workload he had the last month

1010
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: for the whole season, he'd have five hundred carries. And

1011
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of studies when you keep giving,

1012
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: when you keep giving guys thirty twenty seven thirty touches,

1013
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: that they break down. So give it. Give the ball

1014
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: to Alexander Madison and hey, give the ball to Justin

1015
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Jefferson a couple of times on first and second down

1016
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: till it's third and eight. They were trying to save

1017
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: their season though, too, and it was like do whatever works,

1018
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: and Dalvin Cook was working times tense, so you know,

1019
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: it's probably not what they game planned back in August

1020
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: necessarily worked them. Now, if they lose this game, the Vikings,

1021
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: I think you'd dine if they lose this game, I would.

1022
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: I would certainly, you know that I would be off

1023
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: the band wagon for sure if they if they would

1024
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: lose two straight games. And one thing to keep in

1025
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: mind with the Panthers who listen there four and seven,

1026
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: we shouldn't act like they're totally out of the hunt.

1027
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: If we're saying the Vikings aren't at four and six, uh,

1028
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: they they have to win out though as well. It

1029
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: does make you wonder what happens inside that coaching room

1030
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: with Matt Rule Christian McCaffrey. Like we said, he's inching

1031
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: toward a return. They have a bye week next week, though,

1032
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: so it almost it would make sense to give him

1033
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: this this Sunday and then you get two weeks and

1034
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: then he's back full bore. But maybe you can't. You

1035
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: need your best player on the field. It's a tough decision,

1036
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: but uh, I think Rule has shown us. Uh, he's

1037
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: capable of making the right ones so far in his

1038
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: rookie season. All right, Mark, you are up next. All right,

1039
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna go. Uh. You know, Cleveland, cha Exonville

1040
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a stunner to anyone that follows the show. Um.

1041
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how many every time there's always that

1042
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: because I know this is what you expect. We get it, buddy,

1043
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: you don't need the audience gets it. It's cool. I

1044
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: think it's a fair comment because normally I would steer

1045
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: my eyes away from Mike Lennon, um, who will be

1046
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: starting for Jacksonville. Um, And I know this is this

1047
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: is kind of what I'm what I feel a little bit.

1048
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: It was some of the Corona stuff, like certain teams, Um,

1049
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: things catch on fire, and then there's other teams were

1050
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: like there are problems, but it's a little bit overlooked.

1051
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not like, I get it's the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1052
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: They almost beat the Packers a couple of weeks ago.

1053
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: They're not totally defunct. Um. I they Cleveland should come

1054
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: in and take care of business, but they have no

1055
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Den because of Corona alright. Porter Gustin, who

1056
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: has been a really like interesting developmental player who's gotten

1057
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: to the quarterback a bunch and was essentially going to

1058
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: replace Myles Garrett in this game to some degree, is

1059
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: out with Corona Siona Siona Taki Taki, who had the

1060
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: fifty yards. He had to pick six and I don't

1061
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: know what when he called Corona, but he caught it

1062
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: to jefreck Wills, the left tackle is Home was homesick

1063
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: this week. Denzel ward Is out with a pretty severe

1064
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: injury that they're that they considered putting them on I R.

1065
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: For this team is has is a three win team

1066
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: without Denzel Warden, Miles Garrett. So I'm just saying that

1067
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: if you want to look at potential trap game world

1068
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: and I love this, I'm not hearing it because the Jaguars,

1069
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: first of all, they're much worse than the Browns if

1070
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: they were healthy, and their situation is so much worse.

1071
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: No team has been devastated more by injuries in the

1072
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: last week alone than the Jaguars. They've lost their best

1073
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: pass rusher, Josh Allen. They've lost their best two cornerbacks

1074
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: d J. Hayden Um and who's the other one Sidney Jones.

1075
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: That's just in the last two weeks. I'm gonna add

1076
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: some more. DJ Chark by far their best wide receiver

1077
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: out for this game. Andrew Norwell the best guard out

1078
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: for this game. Uh. And they showed me a lot

1079
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: when they announced on Wednesday before they even practice that

1080
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon starting this game, even though Gardner Minshew has

1081
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: been practicing and throwing the ball. And you never want

1082
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: to say a team is showing their cards here, but

1083
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: you're starting Glennon over a chance that Minshew could be ready.

1084
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: He's been practicing for two weeks now, and you're not

1085
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: playing Gardener's clear. You know, it's a difficult different type

1086
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: of It's not a fish tank. It's I don't know

1087
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: if you would. You don't really put Jaguars into a tank.

1088
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: But well, it's not your ja play at the big

1089
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: chlorine tank. Well, I think, I don't know with Minshew,

1090
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: he's more popular on this podcast than in other places,

1091
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: and I think maybe that that locker room as well.

1092
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if the Jaguars love

1093
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew as I mean, if anything, your boy Jake

1094
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: Lewton made him look good though, because Jake Luton was

1095
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: not it, and I just don't think Mike Glennon would

1096
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: be it. What are you suggesting that, like like other

1097
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: players are not fans of Minshew. I've not read anything.

1098
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: There are some whispers about his ability to throw the

1099
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: ball downfield and and there were some frustrations I think

1100
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: come emanating out of that locker room. But Minshew, I

1101
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: mean just statistically and all that is superior. I understand

1102
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: where you're coming from and the angle that this could

1103
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: feel like a tank move, but we'll see. I mean,

1104
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: this is a big game for the Browns, though. You

1105
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: gotta win, no excuses, doesn't matter who's heard. It's Jacksonville.

1106
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: They've lost nine games in a row. They're they're starting

1107
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: a third or fourth string quarterback. Uh. And then you

1108
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: have after this game, if the Browns take care of

1109
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: business and get to eight and three and then hypothetically

1110
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: get Myles Garrett back, you have at Tennessee home Baltimore,

1111
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: you get both New York teams and then Pittsburgh. So

1112
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: it's not a treacherous back half of the schedule, but

1113
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: you want to give yourself a little bit of a

1114
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: cushion there by getting to eight and three. If you

1115
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: get to eight and three and take care of business here,

1116
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: you have no business miss in the playoffs. So just

1117
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: win on Sunday. They've been able, they've done that so

1118
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: far this year. They haven't had that like massive trip

1119
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: up loss yet and maybe at this point they've earned

1120
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: the benefits and offensive explosion. Let's see put up thirty

1121
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: five in a good weather game. I think I'm just

1122
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: say looking forward, looking forward though, like you can't lose

1123
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: to the Titans, Ravens and Steelers and be taken that seriously.

1124
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: You gotta win one of those games and show that

1125
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: you made progress. That's for another week. But um, you know,

1126
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: beating the Jets, Giants, and Jaguars to get into the playoffs,

1127
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: that's the kind of team I would critique in in

1128
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: in other scenarios. Um, but they've taken care of business

1129
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: against bad opponents. That's a good trade. Here's the And

1130
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: yes there's weather involved in this and everything, but just

1131
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: looking at their schedule they had they put up thirty

1132
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: seven against Cincinnati in Week seven, but starting with weeks

1133
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: weeks six, outside of that game, seven points in the

1134
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: lost six points in the lost ten points in a win,

1135
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: and they scored fifteen point or was the thirteen points

1136
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: on offense last week? Right? Yeah, but that's like saying,

1137
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: why didn't they get like a tan on a snowstorm.

1138
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean they were dealing. That was like some of

1139
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: the worst weather games I've ever seen, and it impacted

1140
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: Look at the teams they played weren't throwing up thirty

1141
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: points either. So all right, so let's see thirty points

1142
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Cleveland Browns up next. Greg Rosenthal, Oh boy,

1143
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: it's time. It's time for me to pick the Bengals

1144
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: and the Giants. Get ready. The Giants have been um

1145
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: on a on a by um. They've been had a

1146
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: very eventful by and we haven't talked about it much

1147
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: on this podcast just because the timing. UM. But you know,

1148
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: they fired their offensive line coach after he got into

1149
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: some sort of problem with the head coach didn't like

1150
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: that they were bringing in Uh yeah, I mean use

1151
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: the word uh Ian. Kim Jones didn't say the word,

1152
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: but said it was one of the worst words you

1153
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: could think of, and then I guessed it to uh

1154
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: our guy ian rap war. He said that guess was right.

1155
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: So I mean there's only I mean, there's only like

1156
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: one word that's preferred to that way, So I don't

1157
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: think I don't think it was like necessarily Sherlock Holmes. No, No,

1158
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm just trying to let the

1159
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: ultimately of Colombo and the coaching staff was the run

1160
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: to the litter. You gotta get rid of them. It's fair.

1161
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: It's a fair point, and they've done that and that

1162
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 1: that's a big run to the litter. Six ft eight

1163
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: guy he played in the NFL. So good for Joe

1164
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: Judge for sticking up for himself there. I think one

1165
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: overlook thing about this Giants team and and they've been

1166
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: playing better all year, is they are a power running

1167
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: team and Daniel Jones is now a bigger part of

1168
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: that running attack each and every week, and I think

1169
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: that's important, Like they need to focus on their strength.

1170
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: They can block for running pretty well. They and they

1171
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: Wayne Gallman's running hard. They're like reviving Alf Morris and

1172
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: once you add Daniel Jones the mix, they're a little

1173
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: bit dangerous running on the ground and that's kind of

1174
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: all they should need this week against the Bengals team

1175
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: that is now starting Brandon Allen. I think that gives

1176
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals a little better chance in this game. Ryan

1177
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: Finley was such a dud and we've seen Brandon Allen

1178
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: play a few times and look like like an NFL

1179
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: backup that helps him. But either way, it's a call.

1180
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals on defense have given up an

1181
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: a f C high thirty nine completions of t plus yards.

1182
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: So if there was a game where you could get

1183
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: a little bit going through the air. For Daniel Jones

1184
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: two straight appearances without a turnover, I think that's a

1185
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: fair thing to credit him for after that being the

1186
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: number one knock on him. Uh, the defense, you know,

1187
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: last time we saw them, they when they played the Eagles,

1188
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 1: they held them to oh for nine on third downs,

1189
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: which is the first time that happened in Philadelphia since

1190
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: two thousand four. Now, that is not a juggernaut you faced,

1191
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: I get it, But this is a pretty well coached

1192
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: Giants team. And I think that Wayne Gallman is someone

1193
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: you could point to that was sort of just floating

1194
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: in the abyss under previous staffs. Um and you had

1195
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: se Kwan to but se Kwan has been in and

1196
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: out of the lineup, and they get these guys to

1197
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: play pretty well. So I look at the Bengals as

1198
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: a pretty spiritually broken team right now. You've lost the

1199
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: one glowing light Um that gave fans and everyone I

1200
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 1: think on the roster um hope. He was your rookie

1201
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: quarterback who was annoying to captain with no preseason, no

1202
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: no essentially no off season. So I don't know if

1203
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen is going to necessarily um inspire the group. Uh,

1204
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: they just hope to hang on. But Zach Zach Taylor

1205
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: is fighting for his job. I mean, the Bengals, even

1206
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: before Joe Burrow went out, had forty six big plays,

1207
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: which I think is I think that status plays of

1208
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: twenty yards are over, which was thirty in the NFL.

1209
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: So even with Joe Burrow, this team was not you know,

1210
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: the type of offense that was gonna gas you and that.

1211
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: And now you take Burrow out of the mix and

1212
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: you put in Brandon Graham bigger, much bigger, at bigger

1213
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: arm than Joe Burrow. Yeah. Well, so I don't know.

1214
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't have a very good feeling about this, and

1215
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 1: I think the Giants defense has made strides. This sets

1216
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: up very well for the Giants, who are yes, absolutely

1217
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of this NFC's race, especially with the

1218
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys loss. Here, the Cowboys recede into the background again

1219
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: and Washington Philly and the Giants battling it battling it out,

1220
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and it sets up so well, Dan, what sets up

1221
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: so well this Giants? And I know you're you're saying,

1222
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, he's getting a little excited. No, you

1223
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't lock up the Giants, who are oh and seven

1224
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: out of the division. They haven't even won a game

1225
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: out of the division all season. But hey, I think

1226
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: this is a tough looking team. I think they're gonna

1227
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: get their first win out of the division. Oh yeah,

1228
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm locking up. Let's see, I was wondering while you're

1229
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: talking up Brandon Allan so much, and it was just

1230
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: to justify this lock No, No, that wasn't that wasn't it.

1231
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't need to justify anything. I'm I'm I'm annoyed

1232
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: that I didn't lock up the Texans. I was debating

1233
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: between Giants and Texans, and uh, I made the wrong

1234
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: choice because I could just be sitting here, like just

1235
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: laid back on Sunday and feeling fa You've had a

1236
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: lot of proud moments Craig on this show. Um personally

1237
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: throughout life. Um, this has to be right up there.

1238
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean, locking up the Giants over a woe begone

1239
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: um quarterback free Bengals team stuff, you know, I know,

1240
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: I know they're owing seven UM out of the division

1241
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: and seven out of the division. Business Like, it's like

1242
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: they can only be the team, you know, So that's

1243
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: like you're trying to break new ground. There's a lot

1244
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: of turmoil, but I think they can overcome it. I

1245
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: think they can overcome it. On two more comments on

1246
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Daniel Jones. Ever since A Kwon went out,

1247
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: that's when they decided to let him run more, which

1248
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: seems like it didn't have to be that way, considering

1249
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: he's one of the fastest quarterbacks in the league. But

1250
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: good for I mean, let's hey, Jason Garrett. He at

1251
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: least was able to adapt and add a layer to

1252
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: that offense. And we didn't talk about it, but the

1253
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow injury, of course, because it's you know, connected

1254
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: to the Bengals. It was it was not just a

1255
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: simple A C L. Tare. It was the M C

1256
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: L though went and other we're told structural damage. So

1257
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna his surgery, then rehab is gonna push him

1258
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: right up against Uh, we're hearing the start of the

1259
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one sees and if you recall, Carson

1260
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: Wentz suffered a similar injury a couple of years back

1261
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: and they held him out until week three, I believe

1262
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: of the nineteen season season. So uh, really tough break

1263
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: for the kid. Hopefully comes back and he's the same

1264
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: guy he was. All right up next, Greg, it's snakes

1265
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Speaker 1: to you, buddy, Well, that's lame, a lot of snaking

1266
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: when you've got three people on the show. Yeah, I'm

1267
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna take the Las Vegas Raiders against who John Gruden

1268
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: calls the best three and seven team ever. The Atlanta

1269
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: Falcons not even share the three and seven team this

1270
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: year because the Panthers were three and seven, and I

1271
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: it's a toss up. I only think the Falcons are

1272
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: dangerous when Julio Jones is in the lineup, which seems

1273
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: like an obvious point to make um, but he's been

1274
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: so important this season to them. And if you watch

1275
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: that that say game Julio played, but it wasn't in

1276
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: the box score too much because he was on the sideline.

1277
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: So much. He had a hamstring injury early, they say

1278
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: he's a game time decision. And when you take Julio

1279
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: Jones out there, they're not dangerous. All they are is

1280
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley and Matt Ryan and a lousy running game

1281
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: that they won't give up on because that's just sort

1282
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: of them m O and I guess Todd Earley is

1283
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: the new Levy on Bell this year. Just run into

1284
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: the line for three yards and it's very hard to

1285
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: watch and snaps to Brian Hill right. And your defense

1286
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: is a little frisky and if you scheme up some

1287
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: things against bad teams, but it's really not that frisky.

1288
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 1: It's just better than it was in the first month

1289
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: of the season. So this is a game where I

1290
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: think the Raiders should win. And uh, it's a test

1291
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: for them. They were six and four a year ago

1292
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: at this time. This is a ten am Pacific time

1293
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: game in a dead dome. Derek Carr talked this week

1294
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: about how he thinks they're so much better than they

1295
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: were when they were six and four a year ago

1296
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: and when they went ended up going seven and nine,

1297
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: losing five out of six at the end. I totally

1298
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: agree with their car. I think this team is much

1299
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: better than they were a year ago, and this is

1300
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: the type of game than that you win. Oh, they're

1301
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: They're a completely improved team. And I, you know, hats

1302
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: off to Mike Mayock because I think there was fair

1303
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: speculation how that would go UM a GM in general,

1304
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: pairing with Gruden, um a media you know member becoming

1305
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: a GM. We've seen that happen multiple times. Now I

1306
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: think it just was because it wasn't because of of

1307
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock. It was just more like I wanted to

1308
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: see how it worked. But he has built he is

1309
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: in the process of building a really interesting corps. I

1310
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: think one area that concerns me is just still like

1311
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: their bottom two in sacks, their bottom six and QB

1312
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: hits and last week well completely unseated Atlanta. It was

1313
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan being destroyed by the Saints defense. So I

1314
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: don't really trust the Raiders defense to be able to

1315
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: impact a game that way. But if you're the one

1316
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: difference between last year six and four and this year

1317
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: six and four, they faced like the third toughest schedule

1318
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: to y and they now have let me. The chart

1319
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: here says it is the thirtiest easiest UM down the stretch. Now,

1320
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't care about schedules in April and May, but

1321
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: by now we know who these teams are, so so

1322
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: that matters. And I think that they're set up for

1323
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: a run because we just mentioned like Cleveland. We just

1324
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: mentioned this group of a f C teams that you're

1325
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: gonna see a tenant six team not make the playoffs.

1326
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: The Raiders have to find a way for that not

1327
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: to be them. They've got the tiebreaker over Cleveland that's huge,

1328
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: and if they can coast and start to pile up wins,

1329
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: they're the team that's deserving of an a f C

1330
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: playoff birth compared to you know, some of these a

1331
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: f C wild card teams from old I think the

1332
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Raiders could could take the Chiefs in the playoffs. I

1333
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 1: think that the one team that somehow seems to match

1334
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: up really well with the Chiefs. So I'm not I'm

1335
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of rooting for them not to fall off the grid.

1336
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: Here Derek Carr faces of Falcons defense that allows three

1337
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: yards passing a game thirty one in the league. Um,

1338
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: only Seattle allows more. Somehow Seattle has been allowing and

1339
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: I know they've been getting better, but so this number

1340
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: is better than it was almost three yards a game

1341
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: through the air. Unbelievable anyway. But Atlanta's defense over four

1342
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards a game they're allowing, uh, that is on

1343
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: pace to be the most allowed in a single season

1344
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: franchise history. Derek Carr especially, he's got to be playing

1345
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: with more confidence that he's ever played within his career.

1346
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: Coming off that Chiefs game where I just thought, you know,

1347
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: and we talked about on last Sunday Night show, I

1348
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: thought it was the best quarterback game of the year

1349
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,959
Speaker 1: with Mahomes and Car. So I think Car, for all

1350
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: the fun we have with him, is really having a

1351
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: great season. And one aspect of the offense that I

1352
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: thought was important to see take off a little bit

1353
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: against the chief was the Darren Waller uh Derek car connection,

1354
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: which has been like sneaky under the radar, not great

1355
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: this year. It's been very low in terms of yards

1356
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: per catch, and it wasn't an explosive element of their offense.

1357
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: He was more a chain mover, almost like a Jason

1358
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: Witten type producer. Uh. And maybe not this current Jason Whitten,

1359
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: but like four years ago Jason Witten. So then you

1360
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: finally got to see him going up to see him

1361
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: and ripping off big plays and be looking like an

1362
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: athletic freak on Sunday. That's that's such a Sunday at

1363
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: that's such a big part of their offense being next

1364
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: level good. So let's see if Waller can continue to

1365
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: stack up. And by the way, the Falcons are like

1366
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the league against tight ends.

1367
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: So I think that's that's dead on that you could

1368
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: see him having a big game. Mark you are up, Well,

1369
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: we're running out of options here. I'm gonna go Arizona,

1370
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: New England. A little surprise, this is still hanging around

1371
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: minorly spicy um A little bit of news here that

1372
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald tested positive for Corona and will be out

1373
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: of this game. I just you know, we can get

1374
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: into that another time. But it just feels like some

1375
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: of the names being impacted by this. That's that's big.

1376
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not He's not the centerpiece of their

1377
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: offense right now. But Kyler Murray. I think one of

1378
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: the reasons Seattle uh best in Arizona on Thursday night

1379
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: was that the shoulder injury to Kyler Murray was one

1380
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: that you know, I think moved him away from running

1381
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: the ball the way he would have something they could

1382
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: not have defended. So that's um, you know, he's practicing.

1383
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: But I think that there, you know, there will we

1384
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: get the full version of Kyler Murray. I'm not sure.

1385
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: And if you can take that away. New England, Uh,

1386
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, their defense has been pretty bad. But the

1387
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: Patriots just are freaky to me. They hang around in

1388
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: games you wouldn't expect. So this is a concerning, concerning

1389
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: one for the Cardinals. I think I know that you're

1390
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: very down on New England's deal. I'm not, you know,

1391
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm not that down on them. I just they're a

1392
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: competitive team. Their defense is terrible. I mean, the front

1393
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: seven of their defense, I would say is the most

1394
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: talent poor front seven in the entire NFL. And I

1395
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: would say their wide receiver position with the mere Bird

1396
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: the definition of a journeyman and Jacoby Myers as their

1397
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: top two guys by far, are the most talent poor

1398
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. So they have major problems. They have

1399
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: good coaching, they have a good running game, their secondary

1400
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: should be better. They're just good enough to have the

1401
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: ball late in games and lose. It's happened four times

1402
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: this year where Cam Newton's had the ball, and uh,

1403
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: I think they're getting what they could have gotten out

1404
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: of their offense, and they're about they're close to average

1405
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: efficiency on offense, but they needed their defense to be

1406
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: close to where it was last year and instead it

1407
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: totally fell off a cliff. And they've played all these

1408
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: young dynamic quarterbacks. Uh, Belichick's been on like the tour

1409
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: of the quarterback Revolution. Here's who they play, Lamar DeShawn,

1410
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. You want to throw Russell Wilson

1411
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: in there earlier in the even Derek Carr, who's playing well,

1412
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: like they've played great quarterbacks and ultimately they haven't been

1413
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: up to the test defensively, and there's no reason to

1414
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: think they'll be up to the test against Kyler Murray.

1415
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I am uh all good points. I'm very

1416
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: interested to see what version of the Cardinals offense shows up.

1417
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: Though Mark mentioned the shoulder injury to Kyler, and that's

1418
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,480
Speaker 1: you can't I mean shoulder injuries and quarterbacks and December

1419
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: or close through December, don't X And I'd be very

1420
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: very concerned and on edge and on pins and needles

1421
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: from the Cardinals fan until we get into game action

1422
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: on Sunday and see how he looks. They're gonna play

1423
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: him because if there's one knock on the Cardinals, it's

1424
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: that it's Kyler's world. And it's like, if they're gonna

1425
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: go on like a beautiful run in January, it's gonna

1426
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: be because of Kyler. If they're gonna flame out and

1427
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs, it's it's because of Kyler. And now

1428
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: you have an injured shoulder. The Fitzgerald absence to COVID nineteen,

1429
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: I know he's not Larry Fitzgerald anymore, but he was

1430
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 1: still the second most targeted player on this team after

1431
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. So that's asking Christian Kirk, who I think

1432
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: should be the guy getting more targets to step up

1433
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: in his absence, and maybe even Andy Isabella. And then

1434
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: my my third point on this game, and I'm gonna

1435
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: tee up, Greg, Greg. I've been thinking about this for

1436
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: a few days. I'm really looking forward to asking you

1437
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: this question. We are where the Patriots right now? What's

1438
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: the record again? There four and six, so they got

1439
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: six games remaining. Cam new Newton has been a really

1440
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: interesting quarterback this year. We've seen almost different Cam Newton's

1441
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: throughout the year. He certainly has not been bad, he

1442
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: hasn't been great. He's in that not bog gray area

1443
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:16,520
Speaker 1: in between. Is the quarterback of the New England Patriots

1444
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: currently on their roster, the starting quarterback in I I

1445
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: guess no um if I had to go, but I

1446
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: think it's pretty close to fifty fifty. I think it

1447
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to bring Cam Newton back

1448
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: on affordable deal and drafts one because to me, he's

1449
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: probably around the Dalton line this year, although the Dalton

1450
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: lines now moved so far down that ultimately that's a disadvantage. Like,

1451
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton has been okay for a replacement start.

1452
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: He's been amazing for a million dollars. That's why I

1453
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: put it on the defense. Their defense is so expensive

1454
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: and they're terrible. What do you expect out of a

1455
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback? He's a he's a replacement level starter,

1456
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: but that means he's like probably the league that's not

1457
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: that's not ideal right now? Uh, if you can get

1458
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: that low, I in my heart, I don't. But then

1459
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: when I actually stack up who's playing, like there's a

1460
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks even like the average ones are having

1461
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: like okay years, So he's probably between twenty and twenty five.

1462
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: If I wrote him down, I think if you can

1463
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: get him back on a relatively affordable deal, he makes

1464
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to bring back because I just

1465
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to do better. Also, they

1466
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: have like the fourth most cap space projected right now

1467
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: for next offseason, So like if you tell me they

1468
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: get creative and get someone with like a huge ceiling,

1469
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: but I don't know who that is, like other than

1470
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: developing a rookie, you know, not, why not Sam Donald?

1471
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: That's not gonna mean trade Sam Donald to the Patriots

1472
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,879
Speaker 1: in I mean, unless there was some type of trickery

1473
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: where the Jets Jets trade him somewhere and then Belichick

1474
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: got frisky and somehow, you know, double cross the Jets

1475
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: that way, which I wouldn't put it past him. But

1476
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: he ain't going straight to New England. Maybe they believe

1477
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: can get Fsky enough to trade Drew Bledsoe to the Bills.

1478
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: Maybe they believe Cam can get better with the second

1479
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: year in the offense and better weapons around him. That's

1480
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: why I'd leaned towards just keep them, because what are

1481
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: you gonna do that's any better that Jarret's did him?

1482
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: Like eighty five snaps that he has has soured me

1483
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: on Jarrett's did him because he's looked so overwhelmed and

1484
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: a neped. Maybe that's too small a sample size, but

1485
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's an interception every other throw. They're

1486
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose nine or ten games, right if you

1487
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: really had to, let's say seven and nine. Let's say

1488
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 1: they go seven and nine, that would be a victory.

1489
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: Going three and three down the stretch with this schedule

1490
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 1: for real, I think six and ten about the six

1491
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: and ten that will give them probably what like the

1492
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick in the draft, maybe maybe ten to thirteen,

1493
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: let's put it in that range. I find it hard

1494
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: to believe that Belichick won't take this as the offseason

1495
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: to go get his his guy. That has not happened.

1496
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: Uh really, and obviously it hasn't. Tom Brady was there

1497
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: that this might be the year where they really go

1498
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: all in, even if it means trading up or something

1499
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: of that nature, to go get a quarterback. I think

1500
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: that their rookie quarterback next year is a high first

1501
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: round pick I hope. So I think impairing that person

1502
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: with Cam, I think is great because Cam's not gonna

1503
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: do any better than this opportunity either. I think they

1504
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of need each other. It's just figuring out the money.

1505
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: I think Cam can succeed in this offense, and he

1506
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: has to a point. Um, but if you, if you

1507
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: help him out a little more, I don't know, they're

1508
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: not They're not going to roll into next year with

1509
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: just Cam like this was. This was like, if anything,

1510
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: that what I think people are sleeping on with the

1511
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: money and the resources and what the offseasons could be. Like,

1512
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: this is a one year press pause and rebuild thing.

1513
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: This is not a five year rebuilding plan. Old right

1514
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: now right He was a bridge guy and that's really

1515
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: how it's played out. All right, let's move on. My

1516
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: wife hinted by the way um that she wants a

1517
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: custom charcuterie board for Christmas. What does that know? What

1518
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: that is? It's I think it's cheese related and I'm

1519
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: going to be doing research and if anyone wait, the

1520
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: actual food or the board. I mean charcuterie is like

1521
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: when you order the meats and the cheeses, the board

1522
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:16,480
Speaker 1: if anyone out there is in the custom charcuterie board sector,

1523
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: like with her name on it or something. I don't know.

1524
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't like you know what I saw, Yes, a

1525
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: lot of people, um taking pictures of what you're describing

1526
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: a charcuterie board to be like, look at my spread

1527
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: and look at this amazing table of food. So maybe

1528
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: there's some nothing could discuss Mark more than we could

1529
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: barely get that out of his mouth. But how about this,

1530
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: I do have one, and I'm not I'm not like

1531
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: trying to be down on Thanksgiving. It's a wonderful time

1532
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: for lots of it. But I would say that one

1533
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,919
Speaker 1: thing that people a piece of frozen pizza by yourself

1534
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, that was just situational. That's not what I

1535
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: would do if, like I was around my family. But

1536
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: game script went awry, don't you understame? But hear me,

1537
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: hear me on this for a second. On Twitter, all

1538
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: these people taking pictures of like just their plate of food,

1539
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: and it's just it's typically like grayish, a lot of

1540
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: grays and browns with like a little green. I would

1541
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying they look it looks better in person.

1542
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: The photos of Thanksgiving food are really typically kind of

1543
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: gross and because people aren't good photographer food photographers, not

1544
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: because the food is gross. It's not a food comment.

1545
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: They just understand your perspective marks someone that doesn't like

1546
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: food and doesn't like meat and things of that. That's

1547
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: just going to from your eye. You're gonna see that

1548
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: and it's gonna look gray and no, no, no no,

1549
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,919
Speaker 1: because it's just simply like there are other for instance,

1550
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: like I I love like food blogs about food. I

1551
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: don't even um eat on Instagram. I'll look at a

1552
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff and it's got to be photographed. Well,

1553
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's got You've got someone who likes

1554
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: snapped like they're like in weird light, like their plate

1555
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: on their iPhone like half blurry like brown products and

1556
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: then put it out and being like our meal for

1557
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: the day. Like you know what, maybe I'm the only

1558
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: person that thinks everyone else I think cancel atoms just

1559
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: taking the rest of these photos and I think something here.

1560
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: I think, if you're gonna send it out, um a

1561
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: lot of colors and it doesn't look too good on Thanksgiving,

1562
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: like it's fair just I mean, these are people that

1563
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 1: are celebrating a holiday and then have a communal experience.

1564
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: Why do we need to get on people first. This

1565
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: is not a social justice commentary. I'm just saying I'm

1566
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: happy to see your food take It takes some time,

1567
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: could take some time with the food photos. A moot

1568
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,879
Speaker 1: point at this to wait till next year. All right, um,

1569
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: this here's my next pick. It's going today. It's going

1570
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: to be you know, like in a in a draft

1571
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: in real life where it's a someone with a high ceiling,

1572
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: but there's some character issues, off the field concerns, so

1573
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: they drop way down the board and then you grab

1574
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: this player and it's like this could pay off or

1575
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: it could blow up in my face. That's why I'm

1576
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna take Pittsburgh at Baltimore right at the bottom of

1577
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: the draft here, and the reasons should be apparent why

1578
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: this is a game. Uh that picking in a draft

1579
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: might not work out because it might not exist. Because

1580
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens have a genuine h COVID nineteen outbreak and

1581
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: it led to the Thanksgiving game, Thanksgiving primetime game being

1582
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: wiped away, pushed a Sunday late afternoon, and then just

1583
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: when you thought I couldn't get any more complicated, there

1584
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: you go. Lamar Jackson. On Thanksgiving we learned that he

1585
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: has tested positive for COVID nineteen. And it gets even

1586
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: more messy because in addition to all these continuing positive

1587
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: tests for the Ravens. Uh, this is not a situation

1588
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: where you can move it again to the old mun

1589
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: double Monday Night or Tuesday window unless you than impact

1590
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: week thirteen, because Week thirteen kicks off with, yes, the

1591
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens on Thursday Night football, so an absolute mess.

1592
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: The NFL, as we've talked about on the show, is

1593
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: danced through the rain drops all season long on this

1594
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: but as the numbers for COVID night teed uptick and

1595
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: rocket skyrocket across the country, Uh, we were kind of

1596
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: overdue for the next uh schedule based crisis for the NFL,

1597
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: and here we are Steelers Ravens Week eleven. Yeah. And

1598
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: I think the timing of Lamar Jackson getting COVID one

1599
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: thing you know, I didn't really think about when we

1600
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: first saw the news was he's probably out two weeks

1601
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: if if they play both these games on time, and

1602
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: so everything's up in the air. We're taping this Friday morning,

1603
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: and by Friday afternoon they might have an announcement one

1604
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: way or another, and so we'll find out they're not

1605
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: going to be competitive with Robert Griffin the third against

1606
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and uh, if they have Robert Griffin the

1607
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: third against the Cowboys, anything's up in the air. Because

1608
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: they're not just missing r G three, they're missing there too,

1609
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: starting defensive tackles to injury, not to COVID. There two

1610
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: of their best running backs and and other players throughout

1611
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: the week and their coaching staff, and they got to

1612
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: play a Steelers team that I think is more dangerous

1613
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: lately because I think Ben's there on the ball better lately. Well,

1614
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, even if you had Lamar Jackson,

1615
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: there's no one he's played worse against than the Steelers

1616
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: over two starts. I mean, they've they've totally figured him

1617
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: out and taking him to town. So every time I've

1618
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: watched r G three come into that lineup, and I

1619
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: know he was sort of trumpeted to someone that maybe

1620
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: you can, I guess you could be like a scout

1621
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: team Lamar Jackson in practice if you're RG three, that

1622
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of a player. But their offense has fallen off

1623
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: a cliff every time Lamar Jackson had not been in there.

1624
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, especially last year when you come in for

1625
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: a quarter here and there they were a mess. So

1626
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's total competitive imbalance. And I guess

1627
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: at some point to me, the whole season has this

1628
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 1: um every team as an asterix. But you lose Lamar

1629
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: Jackson to Corona for two weeks and they have well

1630
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: what I mean, I guess that just but everyone's lost.

1631
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: Not everyone is lost the same amount of stuff at all. No, no,

1632
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: not at all, Like but I mean, yeah, but it's

1633
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: it's part of like the basically it's like injuries this year,

1634
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: and some teams have been hurt harder than others. It's

1635
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: I'm more interesting what this means for the league kind

1636
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: of like Dan said, like, what are they They're not

1637
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: gonna do a forfeit, but they have suspended that coach,

1638
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: so they're sort of admitting some fault here that Steelers

1639
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: players are upset, and I get that, but I don't,

1640
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's this year you just got

1641
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: to kind of accept anything. It's a one fifteen game.

1642
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: How do they decide on that? By the way, every

1643
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: other game is at one, but the NBC raven Steelers.

1644
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: Is that one fifteen. It's like, oh, we're special, but

1645
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: we're only fifteen minutes apart. That is that. Uh, this

1646
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: is the Alan Chris games still, by the way, So

1647
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: Alan Chris is are either going to have the week

1648
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: off or they're gonna be on a one fifteen game.

1649
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: That's weird. Tony Dungee and Mike Tariko are announcing Packers

1650
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: Bears Sunday night. The whole thing is whack. Well it's

1651
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: with the on the Steeler side too, Like there's a

1652
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: couple of ways look at it. They are annoyed, they're upset.

1653
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: We saw a bunch of angry tweets from Eric Ebrown

1654
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: and others. They had their by wiped out. Uh during

1655
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: the Titans outbreak, which was on the Titans and not

1656
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and now the Ravens have an outbreak and

1657
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: because of that they lose what they were viewing as

1658
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: a mini buy on Thursday. They would play on Thanksgiving

1659
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: and then have three or four or five days off.

1660
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: That's not happening. And then if there by any chance

1661
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 1: there was a forfeit, uh, they wouldn't be paid the players,

1662
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: so that they really want to see us now that

1663
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: these the other The other side of this is this

1664
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,440
Speaker 1: is a huge break for the Steelers from a competition

1665
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: standpoint because if you play end up playing this game,

1666
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: the Ravens are so compromised. I think if these teams

1667
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: were at full strength, and I'm I'm more down on

1668
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: the the Ravens than others, but I think a Raven

1669
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 1: team it's six and four, healthy and desperate would have

1670
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: been a really tough challenge for the Steelers. And quite simply,

1671
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: it's just if they play this game, it's not gonna

1672
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: be that way. The Steelers, barring some type of really

1673
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: crazy happenstance, are gonna be eleven or Oh that's where

1674
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm coming from. Like I get that everyone has to

1675
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: deal with it in quotes, but come on, I mean,

1676
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: like like this, this to me is like dancing through

1677
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: the rain drops. That's one thing they were doing for

1678
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 1: a while. That's not what they're able to do now

1679
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: in in Baltimore season. I guess what's the other option?

1680
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Because to me, it's like it's a miracle they've gotten

1681
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: through all these and it's it's no perfect solution. But like,

1682
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: but like week eighteen that they talked about like if

1683
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: things became serious enough, Like what is serious enough? Because

1684
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: it's not it's clearly you know not it doesn't you

1685
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: lose your quarterback, doesn't matter. But if there's if it's

1686
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: spreading through the building, that's what would cancel games. Right,

1687
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: So it's more safety impacted than you were saying before,

1688
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: greg On like the particular player. But to me, like

1689
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the course of your season as

1690
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and the Steelers have a right to

1691
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: be annoyed to I mean, I don't know you're gonna

1692
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose part of the locker room with this

1693
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: situation because it's like you're you're you're not You're not

1694
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: able to compete against Pittsburgh in the biggest game of

1695
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: your year that is being asked to save your season.

1696
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: It's not you have no mark Ingram, you have no Dobbins,

1697
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean your offensive line attest there. The team's resolved.

1698
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: If they quit because of this and they go out

1699
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: like lambs, that's an indictment on the whole roster. But

1700
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: I I like am I but am I like screaming

1701
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: into the wind here. I just find it to be absurd,

1702
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: Like what what do you do. I guess that's why

1703
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying the season to me has an asterix on it.

1704
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't say canceled the season, but it's not legitimate

1705
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: to me the same way now it's legitimate for like,

1706
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: I think, twenty three to twenty four teams. Here's my question,

1707
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: what is the trigger where the NFL would open up

1708
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs much. We've heard that they would have an

1709
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:55,839
Speaker 1: expanded playoffs out. I think it's gonna take multiple games

1710
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: being pushed to a theoretical Week eight team. Listen, Mark there,

1711
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but they are in some in

1712
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: some ways just a victim of circumstance, and I don't

1713
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it on an entire asterix on the

1714
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: season because it could have happened to anyone, but it

1715
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: it is just it's a different year and it's not

1716
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: ideal luck as part of it. But they also are

1717
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: at fault. I mean they're they're they literally suspended their

1718
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 1: coach because he isn't you know, because he didn't follow

1719
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: the that's the that's their organization, and we don't know

1720
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: everything else, but he didn't He reportedly didn't have the

1721
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: wrist band on, and he didn't know it wasn't wear anything,

1722
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: and that's a strength coach who's around every single player.

1723
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: It's one of the only people that's around every player,

1724
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: and so you know that that's part of it. They're

1725
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: at fault. So we'll see what happens. As of right now,

1726
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: the game is still on, but that could change by

1727
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: the time you hear this show. Finally, let's wrap things

1728
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: up with the primetime game Monday Night Football. It is

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks seven and three at the Philadelphia Eagles

1730
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: three six and one. Now the Eagles, you know, they've

1731
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: lost two straight games out of there by and Washington

1732
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 1: with that win over Dallas, moves ahead of them in

1733
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: the wind column. So now there's some pressure on here.

1734
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: You've kind of run out of your room. Even in

1735
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: the NFC East, there's a limit to how much rope

1736
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: you have. You can't just keep losing. You gotta win

1737
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: at some point. The problem is here, Greg, that you

1738
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: got the Seattle Seahawks that are maybe, just maybe over

1739
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 1: the last two weeks showing signs that they are figuring

1740
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: it out on defense and getting where they need to be,

1741
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: which is average because average will take care of the rest.

1742
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and they're gonna get Chack Griffin back,

1743
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: their starting cornerback, would say, their best cornerback for this game.

1744
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: They're probably getting Chris Carson, who makes a huge difference

1745
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: for that offense. They're probably getting Postic, their center, who's

1746
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: been one of their best, if not their best offensive

1747
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: alignment other than Dwayne Brown. So you're getting healthier and

1748
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles just found out they lost Lane John's and

1749
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 1: for the season. You would think this would be a mismatch. Anyways,

1750
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, like Carson Wentz that they're doing the opposite

1751
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 1: of letting Wentz cook. They're just trying to like limit

1752
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: him making mistakes, and he's still making them, at least

1753
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: against the Brown. So it's it's like they're going into

1754
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: a shell and even that's not working, and they're talking

1755
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: about simplifying the offense even more. I just it's hard

1756
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: to see a much later at the end of the

1757
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: tunnel for them. A little bit of a weakness on

1758
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: weakness here because the Eagles are allowing a league high

1759
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: forty sacks so far, total chaos for Carson Wentz. He

1760
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: walks into a few himself. Um, but Seattle, you know,

1761
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: they still can't rush the pastor. But Carlos Dunlop, who

1762
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: I think some people when when Seattle traded for him, like,

1763
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's passed his prime, he's not the same guy.

1764
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: Fair enough, he made a play when they needed someone

1765
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: to make a play against the Cardinals. I don't really

1766
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, throw out all the metrics and stuff.

1767
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: They needed someone to come in and make a difference.

1768
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 1: And Bobby Wagner and I know this means nothing to media,

1769
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: people typically said that there were like there was it

1770
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: was a matter of pride to show up in that

1771
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: game and they weren't perfect and they're not going to

1772
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: be perfect, but that there are a lot of veterans

1773
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: on that defense, and you know that was Seattle's bread

1774
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: and butter in the old days. Um that they had

1775
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: been hearing it, you know, for a week after week.

1776
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: That there's an embarrassment. So I think it matters more

1777
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: than just you know, and then we would realize sometimes

1778
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 1: with these players, and I look at the Eagles team

1779
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: and I see a coaching staff that is asked about

1780
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: the same issues every week. It's Carson Wentz's play, it's

1781
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Jason Peters not being the Jason Peters we used to know.

1782
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: It's would Jalen Hurts get more of a chance to

1783
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: operate in this environment? And each time Doug Peterson basically says, well,

1784
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: that's on me, that's on me. That's on me, and

1785
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: nothing changes. They have no answers for any of this

1786
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: and one more loss. Um, I don't know. Projecting Philadelphia

1787
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: into the the Crown makes no sense anymore. Though the

1788
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: team I'd least like to see of any team in

1789
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: the NFC East in the playoffs. All three other teams

1790
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: are more intriguing. Look at their schedule. If they can't

1791
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: find a way to win this week, they are absolutely

1792
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: uh done for I think, um kind of thing. Where

1793
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: to have this schedule? I just it's brutal. You're right,

1794
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: they finished with two division games. When I look at

1795
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: the out of division games in this division remaining. The

1796
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: Giants have the Bengals this week. That's nice for them,

1797
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: But I don't see a lot of potential wins for

1798
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: any of these teams out of the division, So it

1799
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: still seems like it's gonna come down to those division games.

1800
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: The Eagles would have to sweep their their but read

1801
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: Phillies because it's here is the schedule, so you have

1802
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: obviously Seattle at home, at Green Bay Home, New Orleans,

1803
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: at Anza at Dallas, Washington. So I think you could.

1804
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about the NFC East here,

1805
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: so I I find it hard to fork them even

1806
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: if they lose on Sunday, but they are in deep

1807
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: deep due to if they don't find a way to

1808
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 1: step up, and um, if you it's let Russ cook,

1809
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: like what is it like? Let whence watch? I don't know.

1810
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't want him in the kitchen right now. There's

1811
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: nothing that that he can do. And I know you're

1812
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: very downmark on Doug Peterson, but maybe this is on

1813
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, but it's the same way. Sometimes I think

1814
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: you're a little overly hard on Naggie. It's like at

1815
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: some point, like the quarterback is going to submarine teams sometimes.

1816
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's happened here a little bit

1817
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: with their offense, that they could try all these different

1818
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: ways to get Carson Wentz going, but if he doesn't

1819
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: get going, everyone's gonna look bad as a result. And

1820
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: so I think that that's that's just a big part

1821
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: of this. Is he ever gonna turn it on? I

1822
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 1: don't I don't think the light goes on at this point.

1823
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a tear down project here. And Carlos Dunlop,

1824
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: to your point about Dunlop three and a half sacks

1825
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: in three games in Seattle, he's also getting to the

1826
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: quarterback seven quarterback hits five tackles for lost when he's

1827
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: not getting sacks. Jendavion Clowning, I know he won the

1828
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, the wind raid on the edge. You know

1829
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: one's better than Jendaveon clown We all have our guys

1830
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: that were pretty hard on. Yes, he had three sacks

1831
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: in you know, thirteen games last year for Seattle. So

1832
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: Dunlop has made the difference and filled that Clowney whole.

1833
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: That's the last thing I would do, though, is coming

1834
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: out of an Eagles conversation suggesting that maybe Doug Peterson

1835
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: is this is a big part of the exciting solutions ahead.

1836
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think part of his quarterback

1837
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: coach relationship, that relationship is broken right now. And I

1838
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: don't feel like in like I need to have a

1839
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: lot of patients with with coaching staffs that like can't

1840
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: figure out any creative solutions when we're seeing such creative

1841
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: creativity around the league. I think to Mark's point, and

1842
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: this is partly a victim of Doug Peterson's success. Could

1843
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I imagine Shanahan, McVeigh, Reich, even McDaniels, considering the situation

1844
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: they're looking at read having anywhere close to this level

1845
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 1: of failure with Carson Wentz. I don't think I could.

1846
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: I think I mean that is conjecture because entering the

1847
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: season Wentz doing this like, that's what what's made this

1848
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: such a baffling subplot that season that he was never

1849
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: this was never supposed to happen. He doesn't get it.

1850
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: It's just like and we say, we look at other

1851
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 1: coaches in the league and offenses taking off, well, those

1852
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: are offenses with dynamic, young quarterbacks that are going off

1853
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: and playing well and playing with confidence. Here's the thing.

1854
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: The Eagles don't have that. I get it. But okay,

1855
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: let's use the Patriots example. You know, and they have

1856
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 1: an offensive line, which which matters. But you look at

1857
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: a team that's been close to average in terms of

1858
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: efficiency with Cam Newton and with those receivers, and or

1859
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: you look at San Francisco and what they do with

1860
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins, like the coaches don't feel like they're helping

1861
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. That's that's for sure. Whatever it is, it's

1862
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: a failure on both of them. But the coaches are

1863
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: failing too. Yeah, I think listen, there's definitely a case

1864
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: to be made for both sides. Have you invested in

1865
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson Prudential Company or whatever that we mentioned

1866
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,560
Speaker 1: on it? He sounds like suddenly it's just all in

1867
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: on this guy now. It's one of the things that

1868
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: sometimes I get on my radar analysis that buryes a

1869
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: head coach because the quarterbacks thinks. It's like sometimes it's

1870
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: it feels unfair on the coach. That's part of It's

1871
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 1: like the quarterback was playing at m v P level

1872
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 1: with a certain coaching staff. Um the coaching staff has changed.

1873
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: The quarterback is failing. The offense is the most boring

1874
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: offense in the entire league, and was boring last year too.

1875
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: So at some point, like the stink is going to

1876
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: be on the people that are being paid millions of

1877
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: dollars to run the show, right that is that is

1878
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: the nature of the game. I just sometimes feel it

1879
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 1: to be unfair. That's all, Well, this is a very

1880
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 1: unfair business. Men are fired weekly. I mean, what do

1881
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: we sue? So well, let's give Adam Geza another couple

1882
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: of years to figure his plan out. I mean when

1883
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: when who gets picked on and who is allowed to

1884
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: just continue on in mediocrity? I don't know at less,

1885
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: So it's un air. You've made it amazing, Adam Gates

1886
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: based point mark, You've done it again. Congratulations. All right,

1887
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: we are done. That's it. That's the full preview of

1888
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 1: week twelve. We'll be back on Sunday night as we

1889
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: always are, hopefully with Chris Westling in to If not,

1890
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: we will um four John without the great Mr Westling.

1891
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: But fingers crossed on that. Everyone enjoy You're the beginning

1892
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 1: of the holidays. How about that? It is nice. It

1893
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: feels good to get over this hump for real. I like,

1894
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I like seeing the end of the I like a

1895
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: little change to the routine, and I like seeing the

1896
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: end of the season a little bit of change. We've

1897
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: only got like five what weeks left? But only three

1898
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: of them are normal? Then we get into Christmas, we

1899
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: get into the week seventeen, it's like we only got

1900
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 1: three kind of routine weeks left. Let's do I just hope.

1901
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I just hope things don't get worse on that other

1902
01:33:55,160 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: with the other thing. I'm nervous about that. All right,

1903
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 1: good stuff. Dan has a signing out four Quiet Storm

1904
01:34:04,800 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: and the Old Boss kill Sunday, then turn to attendent

1905
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: down to