1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: presented by Invisi Line, trusted by over five hundred NFL 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: players for their winning smiles, and broadcasting live from Dallas 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now, your host Nicole Hutchison, psych. 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Your host Jesse Barthday. Welcome to Girls Talk, Boys Talk, 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: presented by invisil Line. Here live at the SWBC podcast 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: studio at the Star. On first go, I'm joining alongside 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: Ashan Morrison and Christie Skills. 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: In fact, it's been a minute. 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: We missed you so much. Let me say, like the. 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 4: Brain, so many good things, so many good things have 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 4: been happening. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 2: It's been a lot going on. First and foremost, how 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: are you? How is Christy doing? 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: Great? Little bit of traveling. 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: Been busy, Like Ayisha's been doing some stuff with the 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 4: local schools, all the community things that we do in 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 4: the off season, and doing career days and the like, 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: and a lot of things for Women's History Month with 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: Women in Sports. 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: So I'm busy within a couple of things. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: Tomorrow, DSD, we got a lot going with the girls 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: Flag Football League that's sponsored by the Cowboys. Over two 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: thousand girls in North Texas participating. 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: But a lot going on. 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: I want to congratulate my sister Carrie, who is a 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: special needs teacher's aid in Columbus, Ohio, and won in 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: award today for her staff and it was noted that 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: of all of the great things she does, and when 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: it can't get any better, she shows up for Pajama 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: Day and her Dallas Cowboys pajamas represent absolutely the Cowboys 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 4: in Ohio. 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: So there you go. 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot going on, but now I've thought it. 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: What I wanted to do today was share for those 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: of us that are here at the Star in Frisco, 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: what it's really like behind the scenes in the field. 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: All of these changes have been made the last couple 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: of months and leading into the draft, and I'm here 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: to report that it's a very positive vibe. It is 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: a it is a we're all in this together. And 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: that is not casting aspersions at any previous regimes, because 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: it was it's it's been a good culture, but just 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: the feeling of newness. I know that there has been 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: so much behind the scenes approval and affirmation and liking 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: the way that coach Schottenheimer went through the process of 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: building the new staff, and yet the staff that was 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: retained in terms of not just the strength and conditioning, 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: but like Linda Wells and those folks, so there, I 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: think there's. 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: Just enough carryover. 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: And I think that as as tough as it's been 54 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: to say goodbye to players that we've lost in free agency, 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: like Rico, like DeMarcus Lawrence, really hated to see Jordan 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: Lewis go. That's the one that I just like, Oh, 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: if I could have one back, it would just him, 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: all of us Christy. But I think just adding a 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: lot to the depth, bringing in some new new blood 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: and the Sandborns of the world. There's some familiarity with 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: Matt Eberflus and the like, but getting like Dante Fowler back, 62 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: I'd see some really positive things. And I don't know 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: that Cowboys Nation is in the media certainly is not 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: as excited about what's happening this offseason as those of 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: us that are in the building that can really feel it. 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wanted to I wanted to kind of 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: ask you because you mentioned how you know, there's been 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: a lot of loss this off season, and Rico and Jordan, 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: and Tank and Zach Martin. You know, we haven't talked 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: to you. You haven't been on in a minute. So out 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: of all of those guys that have you know, moved 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: on or either retired, you know, Zach Sad, I saw 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: you wear your shirt to at the press conference. Yes, 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: but which one of those guys do you feel like? Well, 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: we will feel the biggest impact for them being gone, 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: you know, early on, as everything's starting to get a 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: little more established. 78 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: Aisha may not agree with me on this, but we're 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: usually on the same Wayne link, so maybe so. But 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: it is hard to replace someone who can play in 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: the slot. That's a difficult position, and so no, So 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: the thing is people don't appreciate how great Jordan Lewis 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 4: has been for this team. So that's That's the one 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: guy that I'm not surprised about any of it. I'm 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: disappointed that the Cowboys didn't have enough space to keep Jordan, 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: but I'm thrilled for him that he got so much money. 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you cannot turn down a thirty million dollar deal, Yeah, 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: he has to. He's a professional and providing generational wealth 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: for his family. So absolutely the right thing. But that's 90 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: the one move of the entire offseason that I'm most 91 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: disappointed with. 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: I would agree. I would agree. 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 6: I think I've said it numerous times as in regard 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 6: to having the opportunity to cover the draft and having 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 6: the opportunity to see what the nickel the nickel position like. 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 6: There's a lot of guys that can play boundary. There 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 6: are not a lot of guys that can really man 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 6: the nickel position. And Jordan is the one that actually 99 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 6: taught me about all of the different details of the 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 6: nickel position that you He is a part of the 101 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 6: front seven, but he's also a part of the you know, 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 6: the third part of the field. He marries them to 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 6: marries them together. He's making a lot of the calls 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 6: to the secondary from the second level like and then 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 6: also too, when we look at how offenses is played 106 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 6: right now, I mean look at how look at how 107 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 6: most our most offensive coordinators that have been here with 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 6: the Cowboys are manipulating with Ceedee lamb ware in the 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 6: slot because it causes it causes conflict. It makes a 110 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 6: lot of corners don't want to run through trash. A 111 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 6: lot of corners don't want to have to come up 112 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 6: and be physical and be and set the edge sometimes 113 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 6: and things like that, and he the temperament that you 114 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 6: have and skill you have to have to play that position. 115 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 6: But also IQ exactly, it is very difficulty, difficult to replace. 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 6: And I've been that is I so I agree with you, 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 6: and I've been kind of pushing that, like I feel 118 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 6: like we're going to feel his absence the most because 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 6: to come into that position, it takes time to get it. 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes time. You look at the percentage of 121 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: snaps played. And I love DeMarcus Lawrence, and you don't 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: just replace a DeMarcus Lawrence. And I'm talking about intangibles 123 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: as well as how well he places the run as 124 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: well as you know, applying pressure. But even so, defensive 125 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: linemen they rotate out more than the players in the secretary. 126 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: The cornerbacks are out there, the cornerbacks and the safeties 127 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 4: if they stay healthy, they generally play ninety percent of 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: the snaps. 129 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 5: And they're playing man a lot. 130 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: And they're playing man a lot exactly right. And the 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: other thing is there's going to be a lot of 132 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: there are a lot of questions marks about the secondary 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: as a whole, just because of the health of the 134 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: dream Trayvon Diggs's of the world. So I think cornerback 135 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: is a position that needs to be fortified. And it's like, 136 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: if you'd kept Jordan Lewis, been able to allocate enough 137 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: to keep him, then you know, at. 138 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: Least you know you got that hardest part nailed down. 139 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he said, didn't he say something about in 140 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 6: his presser. 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: It was time for him to get what he deserves. 142 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. Yes, he knew it was that time 143 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: in his career, after everything he's been through, After we've 144 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: talked about the foot injury that he came back from. 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: He knew his value and good for him, as he should. 146 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: I just wish his value was known here. 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: But well, I think they know what but you just 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: can't keep everybody. 149 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: But I know, and what I've enjoyed, uh, the last 150 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 4: month with the with the show is osa his due 151 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: come on. Finally y'all get to It's it's like they 152 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: were listening to you guys as sense. 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 5: So that was my letter. It wasn't a letter. 154 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: You're the only one. They didn't listen to the rest 155 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: of us. I'm so mad, don't get me started. 156 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: But Jordan. One more thing about Jordan. 157 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 6: He went through multiple culture regimes that didn't appreciate him either. 158 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 6: You remember, he had to fight his way to get 159 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 6: to where he was and dan Quinn was the first 160 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 6: one that was like, you know what, I like this guy, 161 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 6: and he became a starter. But for all the other 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 6: years he was too small. They were worried about his 163 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 6: size and all this. And so I get him wanting 164 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 6: to be appreciated. It is the latter part of his career. 165 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 6: I hope he goes and kills it. 166 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm well, miss miss you, Pooky, rooting for you. 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 5: Jersey is gonna hurt. 168 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: Uh, Christy. Going back to kind of the new regime 169 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: that we're in here, h in all things Cowboys, the 170 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: coaching staff much different and a lot of new names 171 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: compared to the last time we talked, but old new 172 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: but old, old but new. 173 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: Great to catch up with Flus. 174 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: That's kind of the thing. What are some things that 175 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: you want Cowboys need to know about Eberflus or even 176 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: just any of these new coaching hires that knew but 177 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: old But overall we having gotten to hear your thoughts 178 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: on it, we know there's some history there as well, 179 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 2: some things to know, some fun little nuggets about the 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: coaching st Well. 181 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: I'm just really excited about having Matt back. And he 182 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: was linebackers coach here previously with the Cowboys and under 183 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: Rod Marinelli. And I'm real good friends with Rod and 184 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: got to know Matt really well. And so when he 185 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 4: left the Cowboys, it was for an opportunity to be 186 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: promoted to defensive coordinator with the Indianapolis Colts, and after 187 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 4: having success there, that's when he was hired by the 188 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: Chicago Bears as their head coach. But it's not that 189 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: it's necessarily going to be running what Marinelli did. 190 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of. 191 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 5: To that. 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: But you know, kind of like with running backs you 193 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: talk about running downhill, what it's going to be with 194 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: the defensive linemen, in a way is more of a 195 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: downhill thing, especially in terms of turning it loose with 196 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: the pass rush. So I'm kind of speaking in generalities here, 197 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: but it's really hard to predict. Okay, I think he's 198 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 4: going to do this with this because we're still not 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: sure what personnel he's going to have. Yes, they were great, 200 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: you kept Osa good, you brought Dante back, but what 201 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: are we going to have at linebacker? 202 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 5: Right? 203 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still a lot of holes to fill. 204 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: And then at cornerback, how confident are you going to 205 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: be with sides opposite of Deron Bland in terms of 206 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 4: what you can do coverage wise and communication and mixing 207 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: up things. So so much of it remains to be 208 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: seen that I don't want to talk about too much 209 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: about what I think it's going to be because Flues 210 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 4: can't tell you exactly. He knows what he wants to do. 211 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: But until you have the ingredients, you know, you've got 212 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 4: the recipe. But if the ingredients don't fit the recipe, 213 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: then you got to kind of change things up, and 214 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: you're not quite sure how the meal is going to 215 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 4: be prepared. And that's kind of the part. That's where 216 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: we are right now. But so are so many of 217 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: the other teams in the NFL right now. But I 218 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: would say it's the same thing with the offensive side 219 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: of the ball. But I am glad that the new 220 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator does have a background as an offensive line 221 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: coach in terms of because they talk about, you know, 222 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 4: but you can talk all you want about running the ball, 223 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: and oh, that's going to be our identity and things 224 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: are going to be off of running the ball, but 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: the proof is in the pudding. And yeah, you can 226 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: say that you want to do it, but Zach Martin's 227 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: not here anymore. What's going to happen with Tyler Goyton? 228 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: Are we going to make any Cooper Bebe going to 229 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: remain our center? 230 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: I think he probably will, but it's all lip service. 231 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: And even they can't cook up shoddy, you know, they 232 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: can't cook up what they do on offense until they 233 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: till they have their personnel set. 234 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, a little less uncertainty on the offensive side, I think, 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 6: I think there are some a little bit more. I 236 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 6: think we know a little bit more about that side 237 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 6: of the ball as of right defense, for sure, but 238 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 6: the defenses is definitely concerning. If if the Cowboys aren't 239 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 6: going to try to replenish, I think they need to 240 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 6: go corner in this draft. 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: They need to go corner early in this draft. 242 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 6: But if they're not gonna fortify kind of the secondary, 243 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 6: then make sure that front fours some dogs, yep, because 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 6: that's just that's that's if you don't have the resources, 245 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: like the Cowboys have too many things to do right 246 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: now to me to do it like they did. They 247 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 6: did some things in free agency obviously they attacked some 248 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 6: things in free agency. But I'm gonna be straight up 249 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 6: with y'all. I don't know what Elon is gonna be. 250 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 251 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't see a confident player yet. I see 252 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 6: a player that has some talent, but I do see 253 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 6: a guy that has still needs to gain. 254 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 5: Confidence so for him to come in. 255 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 6: I'm still not Kayln Carson coming off. 256 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 5: The shoulder all this stuff like there. If you're not going. 257 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 6: To do what you need to do for the secondary, 258 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: at least make sure the front floor or some dogs 259 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 6: so you can apply some pressure and take some pressure 260 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 6: off those guys. 261 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I see with Elam, and it's 262 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: looking in the mirror and seeing gray hair because I 263 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: was here when his dad played. 264 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: So that's please, That's what I say, Chris. I say. 265 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: Last thing, Christy before we go and break thoughts on 266 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer as the new Dallas Cowboys head coach. We 267 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: haven't heard from you. This is up with Christy. 268 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 5: We haven't gotten ask catching. 269 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: I knew that well. 270 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: I didn't have him top of my bingo you know, 271 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: top of my list or you know, as the winning 272 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: one for bingo for when this uh all of the 273 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 4: potential head coaching candidates were there, but once he got 274 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: the one on one with Jerry Jones and the Jones family, 275 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm like his chances are very good because. 276 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: He is high. Feels were tingling. 277 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 4: Well, It's like it's like the youth pastor I used 278 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: to have in terms of you can get in front 279 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 4: of Jerry and sell that passion and enthusiasm. And Brian 280 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 4: Schottenheimer is great at relating his vision and emoting that 281 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: enthusiasm and selling you. And I don't mean selling in 282 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: a bad way like kind job, but. 283 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: Just just he is great at talking about and not 284 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: just convincing but sharing. Yeah. 285 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks a good a good game. 286 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 287 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: And I knew that once he could get that vision 288 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: out there and be able to justify it because of 289 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: his knowledge of, you know, being three years already and 290 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: knowing a lot of the guys and who can fit 291 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: where and what he would want to do with this 292 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: and what he's seen the past three years and how 293 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: how it'll work. I wasn't surprised at all, uh and 294 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: and I was happy about it. And what I was 295 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: saying in a few minutes to go when we opened 296 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: about the enthusiasm behind the scenes. It's because of Schottenheimer 297 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: bringing all the and I'm talking about within football ops. 298 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: Even within football ops you still kind of have your 299 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: different departments within the department, right, and so just making 300 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: everyone feel that there is important as everybody else and 301 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: that truly we are all in this together. Wold Cats 302 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: Little high school musical. 303 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: But it really I'm just saying, I'm just saying you 304 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: can feel it. I'm saying you can feel it. 305 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 5: I agree with you. 306 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 6: I even at the Senior Bowl when I was there, 307 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 6: I was I was keeping my ears low to the ground. 308 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 6: And there's a lot of respect for Brian Schottenheimer, like 309 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 6: people are not people don't look at him as just 310 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 6: because to me, especially in this business, is how do 311 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: your peers. 312 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: View how what do they think of you? 313 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 6: Because we can think all we want to is media 314 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 6: and all that stuff, but like what do the people 315 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 6: that do what you do think about you? And from 316 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 6: some of the things I heard about him and stuff, 317 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: like people believe he can do it. They don't have 318 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 6: a doubt that he can be a good head coach. 319 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be fine. 320 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 6: But also to talking to the players, even in the 321 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 6: last couple of years. Is the enthusiasm, his energy is 322 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 6: something that they enjoy. But pressers, we've been at the pressers, 323 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 6: what was your faith? No offense to nobody, but between 324 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 6: Bones and him, I always walked out learning something. I 325 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 6: always walked out super ready to answer your questions, want 326 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 6: to talk the game, understands the game in depth. 327 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 5: I also think his. 328 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 6: Passion for the game is infectious and you want to 329 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 6: and I think players want to surround themselves with him. 330 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 6: And he's just he is and he's also forward thinking 331 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 6: and I think you need to be in this league 332 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 6: right now. 333 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and McCarthy was that. 334 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: You know, McCarthy had brought in so much so with 335 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: the analytics and empowering they even the youngest members of 336 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 4: the coaching staff. But infectious is the perfect word. And 337 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: that's something that I used it when Tony Romo first 338 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: took over as a starter. Here the infectious enthusiasm and 339 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 4: that can permeate not just a locker room, It can 340 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: permeate an entire building. It can lift an entire organization. 341 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: Now is it lifting the fan base yet? Is it 342 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: lifting the media? 343 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: No? 344 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: Is it going to mean anything? 345 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: What happens here if they get off to a slow 346 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: start and struggle this year unfortunately. No, but you're asking 347 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: me what I'm thinking and what I'm feeling. 348 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what it's like right now. And so 349 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: that's why I'm just. 350 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: Praying, imploring that the Cowboys get off to a decent, 351 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: if not very good start, because because then the buy 352 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: in will come from Cowboys Nation. 353 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: And to be honest, I understand both sides of this, 354 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: right like, I understand the fan bas is frustration, and 355 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: I feel like shot Shody is kind of the target, 356 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: the easy target that's getting a lot of frustrations from 357 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: a lot of areas that he doesn't necessarily deserve. He's 358 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: just the easy target right now. But I do think 359 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: the more because let's be honest, what casual fans gonna 360 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: watch every press conference and listen to all these things. 361 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: It's a lot like even for us during the season. 362 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: It's a lot of time that we have to invest 363 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: in listening. And I encourage you guys to do so, 364 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: and you should because you will learn a lot and 365 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: you will see things from a bit of a different perspective. However, 366 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: when Shody would go in the press conferences to your point, 367 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: I should to your point, Christy, there is just a 368 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: magnetic force that makes you want to listen to him. 369 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: You're very drawn to listen to what he's saying and 370 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: just the way he explains things. Again, something about it 371 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: does not make you ever feel dumb for asking a question, 372 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: and that makes me excited to talk more to him, 373 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: learn more from him as a head coach. But also 374 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: some of the guys and current players on the roster 375 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: that are about to play for him, they're excited for it, Christy. 376 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: To your point, they're not like down and out about it. 377 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: I haven't gotten feedback from any of the ones that 378 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: I have talked to saying anything negative. It's more so 379 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: like anxious excitement, like they're they're ready to get back 380 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: to it because it is shoddy and they're excited for it. 381 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm glad we got to catch up in 382 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: Christy's little ketchup session. We're gonna take a quick break 383 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: when we come back. It is March madness, so I 384 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: want you guys to keep that in mind. Get your 385 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: brackets ready, and no it's not the one you're thinking. 386 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: Stay tuned to find out which one. This is. 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Download the app now to join. 437 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: I just missed you, Yeah, hey, and speaking of Globe 438 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 4: Life for a couple of days away from Globe Life, 439 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: Texas Rangers housing. 440 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: Today, Hey, opening days right now? 441 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: What's happening in sports? Especially football? 442 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: Starask winning the UFL kicks off this weekend? 443 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 5: How exciting? 444 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: Renegades go, Renegades Go UFL. Anyways, all right, guys, welcome 445 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: back to Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisa Line. 446 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: It's March madness, guys, speaking of a lot of things 447 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: going on in sports. March madness also happening. I'm sure 448 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: everybody's brackets are a dumpster fire? Why don't do it? However, 449 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: I decided, because I didn't do a March Madness brat 450 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: bracket for basketball. I was gonna do a bracket for 451 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: the cowboys. 452 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 4: Okay, wait, I'm sorry, we're doing a March Madness bracket 453 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: for cowboys. 454 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: It's more like just madness at this point. 455 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: Okay. 456 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, we're gonna do a girls Talk, Boys talk 457 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: just madness bracket. And how this is gonna work is 458 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: we have our Elite eight, as I should call them, 459 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: and we're gonna go pair by pair. There's eight names 460 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: on this bracket and we're gonna kind of discuss who 461 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: needs to have the biggest jump this year, whether it 462 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: be a second year jump, improvement, come back from injury, 463 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: all of those things kind of go into effect for 464 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: this bracket. 465 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I like this. 466 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna play a little game. Okay, so if 467 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: you guys want to play along, go tweet us and 468 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: let us know what y'all think, so you can play 469 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: along with us. However, we're gonna get started because there's 470 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: gonna be some discussion. I hope you guys disagree. Let's 471 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: get into it, and I'm gonna play Devil's advocate no 472 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: matter what. All Right, our first section of the bracket, 473 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: we're going Tyler Geiton versus Demone Clark, who needs to 474 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: have the biggest year compared to those two guys. And 475 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: keep in mind, all of these are gonna be an 476 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: offensive guy and a defensive guy against each other going 477 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: forward in this. 478 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: Bracket versus a sixteen. 479 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 4: I mean, this is Tyler Goydon okay for sure, all right, 480 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: he's a first round draft pick. He's your blindside protector presumably. 481 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you could move him. There might 482 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: be some thought of that, but no question about it 483 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 4: because he you know, being selected where he was, uh 484 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: and yet being a healthy scratch, you know, being back 485 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: up at the end of the season and losing his 486 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: starting position. I think he is one that is ripe 487 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 4: for rebound this year. 488 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 6: I agree, So I'm gonna I definitely agree with Christy 489 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 6: is that, you know, Guyton, It's gonna be important for 490 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 6: us to see what he how he takes a step 491 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 6: forward this upcoming year. I will wholeheartedly expect for that 492 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 6: to be a competition. I think we're gonna look up 493 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 6: at left tackle and tryin to camp in Austin. Richards 494 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 6: And Nathan Thomas is another gentleman that they kind of 495 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 6: stash and put away. It's going to be in that 496 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 6: conversation as well, so he has some guys around him 497 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 6: to push him. So for me, yes, but I will 498 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 6: say with Damont Clark though, given what you just said earlier, 499 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 6: Christy about the linebacker room, obviously I know that they 500 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 6: went out and grabbed Jack Sanbourne, who I think was 501 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 6: a fantastic addition from the Bears, and then also to 502 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 6: Kenneth Murray. 503 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: I still think that Damond. 504 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 6: Clark depth is hurt us. Depth is hurt the Cowboys, 505 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: and that's the biggest thing. So it's like, even if 506 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 6: he is going to be a death player, I'm looking 507 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 6: for him to Obviously there were some issues. 508 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 5: With the last regime. 509 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 6: Hopefully maybe he can find some synergy with eva Flus 510 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 6: and those guys and they. 511 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: Can find some way to do Yeah. 512 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: And that's a good point actually for both of them. 513 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 4: You could say, for Tyler and for Damon, these are 514 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: both they're gonna benefit from changes to the staff. 515 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the other thing. 516 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 4: So Dave Borgonzi, who actually was here with the Cowboys 517 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: so know him as well. But remember Matt Eberflus as 518 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator was a linebacker coach, so he knows a 519 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 4: lot about that position and has a lot of empathy 520 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 4: for that, but I will be very interested to see 521 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: how a lot of these young linemen respond and grow 522 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: under the tutelage of Connor Riley's who's the new offensive 523 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: line coach. 524 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: And I want to say about I'm not down and 525 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: out on Dimon and Clark. He's a guy I have 526 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: a very soft spot for in football in general, and 527 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: with the last I guess couple of years, there's been 528 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: I think a lot more going on behind the scenes 529 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: that has impacted him and him as a player and 530 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: kind of where he fell in rank and didn't get 531 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: his opportunities. So I'm excited for a clean slate for Damon. 532 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: I think what you see out of d'mon this year 533 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: is the player he is, and that's just kind of 534 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: point blank where it's at because this year he doesn't 535 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: have the old regimen. He doesn't have, you know, everything 536 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: around him that maybe was affecting him before. Now he 537 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: pretty much just has straightforward What do you have under 538 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: this clean slate? I'm excited to see Damon. Maybe you 539 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: would be, Yeah, I'm excited. And Christy last year last 540 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: year when he came on the show, oh yeah, we 541 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: enjoyed talking to him. But last year last week, Oh 542 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: my goodness, last week we were talking about the green 543 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: dot and kind of how that's affected. 544 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: He should be. 545 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: A front runner for it, he's done it before and 546 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: all of that. So to me, if I'm Demon, and 547 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't doubt Demon's going to use that fire to 548 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: be lit under his booty to kind of get things going. 549 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: If that's also kind of a factor to get him 550 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: pushed along a little more, so be it all right? 551 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: So all three of us are in agreeance, it's Tyler 552 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: Gotton moving on to the next round. Him to come 553 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: on with it gotten well. Next round we have Mazzie 554 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: Smith against Luke's schoon maker jedus Ayisha. Huh, Mazzie or Luke? 555 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 5: This was hard. 556 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: I know I did it on purpose. 557 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: Do you think it really is? I mean it seems ezy. 558 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, I feel like it's hard. 559 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 6: Okay, I only feel like specifically it's harder for me 560 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 6: because Schoolmaker. That tight end room was really lackluster last year. 561 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 6: In general, the DT room was lackluster last year. Like 562 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 6: they're kind of in the same boat to me in 563 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 6: a way. Injuries, dealing with injuries, development, new staffs. 564 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 5: New people. Now Lunda's been there. 565 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 6: So for the sake of what you want to do defensively, 566 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 6: you need Mazi to come on with it. You just 567 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 6: signed Osa. You need a strong middle in this eber 568 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 6: Flu system. It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work if. 569 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 5: You do not have strong DT play. 570 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: And I think that something that got lost last year 571 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 6: towards the end of last year is actively seeing Mazi improof. Now, 572 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: the team was still losing games and they were struggling 573 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: and stuff, but you see him getting it. You see 574 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 6: him popping off the ball faust, you see him holding 575 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 6: up double teams. You see the pursuit to the ball too. 576 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 6: I think his conditioning was far better towards the end 577 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 6: of the year as well. 578 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, cool. 579 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 5: So for me, it's gonna be Mazzi. 580 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 6: But it's hard because I think Schoolmaker is going to 581 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 6: be imperative to what Clayton that and wants to Clayton 582 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 6: that and wants to do running the. 583 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 3: Ball, yeah, don't have to Louck. 584 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 6: Yes, And they have not been that good at that 585 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: they last couple of years. 586 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: I'll be really interested, and I think we'll get a 587 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: glimpse in camp, not in the preseason games, because you 588 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: don't show a lot in preseason games because you don't 589 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: want opponents to figure out what you're going to be 590 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: doing in the regular season. But how much twelve personnel, 591 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: which is one running back, two tight ends, so a 592 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 4: lot of teams will use what they call twelve personnel, 593 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: have two tight ends out there to help block in 594 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: the running game, or even how much if Hunter Lipke's 595 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 4: playing full back, how much we use a full back. 596 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: But I like Luke schoon Maker personally, did a lot 597 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: of events with him last year and a lot of 598 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: community relations stuff. But in terms of from the team 599 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: standpoint and who you're relying on more, it's to me 600 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 4: it's definitely Mazzie that you really need him. And I 601 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: know Schoonmaker was a second round pick, but Mazzi a 602 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: first round pick and he needs to continue to get 603 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: fans and media off his back, and the way to 604 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: do that is to come out and have a strong 605 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: start to the season. But you with what Fluse wants 606 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: to do, heck with what any coordinator wants to do, 607 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: what White Cotton is a defensive line coach, wants to do. 608 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: You have to be stout in the middle of the 609 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: line and then the best pressure on a quarterback is 610 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 4: often what's right in his face, YEA, pushing the pocket 611 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: straight up in the face of the quarterback. So I 612 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: really hope that this is a breakout season for Mazzie Smith. 613 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm played Devil's advocate here, y'all already 614 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: want so Mazzie's going to the next round. However, I 615 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: think this could be a big year for Luke Schoonmaker 616 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: in terms of you have a brevn span Foard that's 617 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: stepped up who will continue to do so. I expect 618 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: even bigger things from Brevan this year. You have a 619 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: John Stevens Junior returning Princeton fant also a name we 620 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: tend to forget, but we shouldn't for good reason. That 621 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: tight end room is getting a little stacked with talent 622 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: that I feel like if Scoon can't overcome this hurdle 623 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: or this hunt that he kind of has been on, 624 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: he could get out shined in training camp. That could 625 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: be a roster spot that could potentially be at risk 626 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: if these guys decide to come with it during training camp, 627 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: and especially I mean John Stevens Junior, he was a 628 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: very big loss last year. He has shown time and 629 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: time again that he is a guy, you know, despite 630 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: the injuries two years now, that can easily come in 631 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: and shine through and take a roster spot. So for me, 632 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: I worry about Scoon being able to kind of outshine 633 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: the rest of the guys in the room. That's not 634 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: to say, uh, you don't know what happens in the 635 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: draft yet either. So for me, if I'm scooned, you 636 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 2: gotta do it, this is the year to do it. 637 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to see the guy lose a roster spot. 638 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, to your point, the blocking hasn't been great. 639 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: He deals with he has dealt with injury before, so 640 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see kind of what that tight end 641 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: room battle looks like come training camp. But not to 642 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: say Mazie does need to step up either. 643 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think they need it, y'all don't think that. 644 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 6: I I mean personally, I think tight end is is 645 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 6: low key almost. 646 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 5: In thee Yeah, I feel like it is. I feel 647 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: like you could have. 648 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 6: I feel like you can go out and you undrafted 649 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 6: free agency or draft one because the reality is is 650 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 6: like Ferg was getting demmed up so much last year 651 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 6: and there was no one that those guys, all of 652 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 6: those guys, they had a chance to take it over. 653 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: That's why it was such a disappointing. Yet they had 654 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: the chance for them. 655 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 6: So who said the Cowboys are gonna gonna be like 656 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 6: you had your chance and you're a dead piece. 657 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: Now. 658 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: You know what's sad is when Ferg was out, we 659 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: were sitting here waiting for Schoon to step up, and 660 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: he did in the way he was supposed to. 661 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 5: That some better things I'm not going to see. 662 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: But after that it was back to radio silent and 663 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: from a guy like Schoon or any player in that position, 664 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: that you have a chance to be a proven second 665 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: in that room. I wanted to see that on a 666 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: consistent basis. And given we know, we know before anyone 667 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: comments the offensive line, this is an extension of their 668 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: struggles and the titands having a block and not being 669 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: able to be a receiving aspect of the game. 670 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: We know that. 671 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: We know that we're saying in general, though, when the 672 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: opportunity was there, a lot of dropped passes, a lot 673 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: of just miscommunications that you don't want to keep seeing, 674 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: especially that late in the season. 675 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: So I agree, yeah, you lose the dynamic part of 676 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: your offense. And I don't just mean Cowboys, but if 677 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: with if you don't have a tight end who can 678 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 4: be a down field threat? I mean, what does George 679 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: Kittle mean to San Francisco? What does Mark Andrews mean 680 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 4: to Lamar Jackson when he's healthy? And Patrick Mahomes and 681 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 4: Travis Kelce. I know that's two Hall of Fame players there, 682 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: But and and even with the even with the Cowboys, 683 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: you know, Dalton Schultz was a pro bowler here and 684 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 4: then what Fergie did his first couple of years when 685 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: he's healthy, and go back to the nineties. 686 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: Yes it was the triplets, Troy, Michael Emmett. 687 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: But on third down, if it wasn't the slant to 688 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 4: Michael Jnovichik, was your dude? 689 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: Talk about it? 690 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 2: Even like Jason Witten. You know, I grew up watching 691 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: Tony Romo Jason went and knowing that's the third guy, 692 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: that's your guy in the end zone. It's gonna happen 693 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: year around. You have ten seconds left in this game, 694 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: you need to still score, kick a field goal. You 695 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: knew who who Tony was going to the en zone. 696 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 2: You had that dependency and that urgency to do it 697 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 2: this tight end room in general. While we're on the topic, 698 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: our next set is Jason Ferguson or Chase It. Oh 699 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: my gosh, Jake Ferguson and Kayln Carson. And I only 700 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: put Fergie on here because again that tight end room 701 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: as a whole seems to be struggling a little bit, 702 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: falling through the cracks of being as part of a 703 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: game as we would like to see. So I put 704 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: put on here. 705 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going with Carson, especially given what is happening 706 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 6: with Jay Lou. Initially, when Kayln Carson was drafted, I 707 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 6: looked at him as the one I thought complaint should 708 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 6: have been playing nickel in the first place. 709 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 5: Now, again, it. 710 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: Is a lot of IQ, It takes a lot of repetition, 711 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 6: it takes a. 712 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 5: Lot of time. 713 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 6: But the way in which he played in college was 714 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 6: he likes to jam, he likes to get his hands 715 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 6: on you. 716 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 5: He knows how to get through trash. He's a strong tackler. 717 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 6: That is a nickel to me, And so I think 718 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 6: that I wonder how they're gonna look at him, maybe 719 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 6: having the opportunity to pursue playing in the nickel. But 720 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 6: it is he's going to be given. We don't know 721 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 6: the timeline, particularly with Trayvon Diggs. Obviously Deron Bland is there, 722 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 6: but there's so much uncertainty with this corner back room. 723 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 6: Is is Rae mccualdmore going to become a corner again? 724 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, there's just a lot 725 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 6: of conversation to be had. 726 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 5: But with Carson, given. 727 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 6: What your secondary is right now, it is like essential 728 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 6: that he comes out and shows that confidence that we 729 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 6: saw on his college tape and shows that sticky, sticky 730 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 6: corner that he can be because you need you really 731 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 6: have no foundation, Like who's opposite We don't know, So yeah, 732 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 6: I'm the coaches were high on him. 733 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 4: Those coaches are gone, Yeah all right, Yeah, I think 734 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 4: he's an excellent point. And the fact he only played 735 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: six games last year and ended this season on IR, 736 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: but he had lost playing time well before IR and 737 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 4: so basically kind of fell off a cliff last year. 738 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 4: And I was surprised because we all thought he was 739 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 4: gonna have a chance to and he did have a 740 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 4: chance to contribute more because of the injuries at that position, 741 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 4: and yet still didn't take advantage of that opportunity. But 742 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: I think he is one of these young guys that 743 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: will benefit the most from having a fresh slate, and 744 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 4: I have not I am very interested to talk to 745 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 4: Matt Eberfluse and see his thoughts on the Carson. I 746 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 4: have not talked to him specifically about Kaylen yet, so 747 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 4: I look forward to having those conversations, because you're right. 748 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: If this is a guy that can step up and 749 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 4: show what Uyisha saw and the others saw in the draft, 750 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 4: they're going to need that this year. But at the 751 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 4: same time, Jess, you're gonna have to be the tiebreaker 752 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: on this because I agree Kaylen Carson boy, they need 753 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: him in a lot of room for improvement to step 754 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: up and be a key player on Yeah, because what 755 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: all I said about a dynamic offense and when when 756 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: Ferg was playing hurt last year, wasn't the Ferg that 757 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: we knew from his Pro Bowl season the year before? 758 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? Ooh, okay, well we have to take our next break, 759 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: So find out what my answer is and who is 760 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: the ultimates? What are we calling them? 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Slash girls Flag So Love, over two 812 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 4: thousand in North Texas and doing an event tomorrow at DSD. 813 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 4: We've got twenty two teams and Dallas Independent School District. 814 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 2: Alone, So Love. 815 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 3: That's awesome. Roles kicked off. 816 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: I love it. Let's get to it all right. I 817 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: left John a bit of a cliffhanger. Welcome back to 818 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: Girls Talk, Boys Talk present by this line. By the way, 819 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: that's who we are. Christy, you should just here. We're 820 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: finishing our March Madness bracket for who needs to improve 821 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: the most this offseason to have a better season this 822 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: coming year. I'm gonna go with we were between Jake 823 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: Ferguson Kayln Carson. I Usha had said, Kayln Carson, Christy 824 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 2: said Jake Ferguson. I am gonna give Jake the benefit 825 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 2: of the doubt here only because out of everybody in 826 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: that tight end room, he has stayed the most consistent. 827 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: I will say, though, if he doesn't have a great 828 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: season this year, it's going to impact the game significantly, 829 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 2: and I get that. However, if Jordan Lewis was still 830 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: in the picture, I wouldn't have to say, Kayln Carson, 831 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that cornerback room is significantly impacted, scaring 832 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: me and that that is the most tricky part to me. 833 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 2: When I look at the defense, I'm the most nervous. 834 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: And because Kaylen Carson is so young, Jake has that experience, 835 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: he knows how to bounce back. He also has that relentless, 836 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: how do I want to call it, grandfathered mindset from 837 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: his football family that I trust because time and time 838 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: again he's proven we can trust that he can do that. 839 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 2: Kayln Carson, I don't know yet because we haven't seen anything. 840 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 2: So it's a sample size compared to what we have 841 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: for Jake. So I'm gonna go Kaylin. 842 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, because if the criterion is needs to improve the most. Yeah, 843 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 4: With Jake Ferguson, it's more get back to what you 844 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 4: were wise and you need to prove the most. You're right, 845 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 4: you don't. 846 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna sample size and we don't know what we have, 847 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: but I. 848 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 2: Do want to go. I'm gonna go Kayln Carson only 849 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: for this, But Jake Ferguson, don't get it twisted. Y'all 850 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: know that tight end room stays one of my favorites 851 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: and most intriguing. I really need them to step it 852 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: up this year period, point blank. Next round, we have 853 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert and Marshawn Neeland, and not necessarily Marshawn Neeland 854 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: needed to improve. I think he had a great rookie season. 855 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: It's more so needing to step up, especially with the 856 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 2: absence of Tank Lawrence. Now, same thing with Jalen Tolbert, 857 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: needing to step up in terms of there's a wide open, 858 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: wide receiver two position that you can have and solidifies yours. 859 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 2: Who are we going with ladies. 860 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 4: Neland oh shees quick with it. It's tough though, I 861 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 4: mean that you need both, but I don't know just 862 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 4: so much more part of the rotation. And like you say, 863 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 4: if if Tank we're back. 864 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 3: It'd be different. 865 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, who're going with? 866 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 6: It's hard because I'm what the heck is the wide 867 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 6: receiver depth chart right now? 868 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: Let me look, it's rough. It's not rough. I'm not 869 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 2: gonna say it's rough. 870 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: It's it's you brought in Paris Campbell. 871 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: It's Uh, Jalen Brooks, Paris Campbell, Ryan Flinoy, Kelvin Harmon, 872 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 2: Pedie Lamb, Jonathan Mingo, Jalen Cropper, Jalen Tolbert, Cavanti Turpin, 873 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: UH and Seth. 874 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: Williams oh and c D don't forget CD said CD? 875 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, CD, I mean we'll say twice just because 876 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 2: it's CD. 877 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: Who's threatening that's the that's the issue, is anybody anyone? 878 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 2: And I feeler that's why right here this is hard. 879 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 3: This is the hardest one for me. 880 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: I gotta have we have one going until we're technically 881 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: supposed to be on. We got three more rounds, okay, 882 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go. 883 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 5: Kneeland. I felt like immediately like who we need to. 884 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 6: Come on with it because Tobert, I feel like at 885 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 6: this point there's Cavante Turpe could be a wide receiver. 886 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: Three. 887 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 5: For all we know in this city, he could. 888 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 2: We know he could be a two. 889 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 5: You know, That's what I'm. 890 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 6: Saying, Like, we don't know they better drafted receiver. But 891 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 6: but but but there's so many, There's so many like 892 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 6: Kneeland in that in room. There there's no Carl Lawson, 893 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 6: there's no DeMarcus Lawrence, like you need him to come 894 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 6: on with it. But I think the knee injury did 895 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 6: kind of throw him. The mcl did kind of throw 896 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 6: him a little bit because that first few games, I said, oh, 897 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 6: this is. 898 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 5: A gone man. It's a grown man playing that run. 899 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 5: So three's gonna be kneeling. 900 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 6: I think if he could take a step, it's gonna 901 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 6: make life so much easier for your defensive line room. 902 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 6: And he is that bigger edge that eber Fluce likes. 903 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, beautiful, all right, We're down to a final four. Everybody, Okay, Tyler, 904 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: Guyton and Mozzie Smith saying name explanation. Okay, you gotta 905 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: pick huh. 906 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 6: I guess I would say, because if you know, don't 907 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 6: make it easy on her. 908 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 5: If you're gonna suck on defense, just score all the points. 909 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: Don't make it easy on her. You know what you 910 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: wanted to say, I want to say. 911 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: I kind of wanted to say, Mozzi sa Mozzi. 912 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 6: Then go score points because the defense is the uncertain part. 913 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, go score points. 914 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: So Tyler, it's gonna be getting for me. 915 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 5: I really need him to to to step. 916 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: Okay, God, this right. You're next to Kneelan and Kaylan 917 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: Carson Marshall Meland versus Kaylan Carson go. 918 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 4: If Land because if you have a good pass rush, 919 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 4: it helps your secondary. 920 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: Thanks. You guys are not making this very cool. 921 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 6: Because that's just football. 922 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 2: Since I mean, yeah, but like make it controversial. Okay, okay, 923 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 2: who needs to have the better season? Tyler, Guyton or 924 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: Marshawn Neeland? 925 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 3: You go first on this one? 926 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 6: Oh my god, huh, I'm thinking being quicker. 927 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, quick you. 928 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: Said be controversial, Please do but quickly. 929 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 5: I'm trying. 930 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 2: You're doing a great job. I don't know. 931 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 5: I don't want to make it easy and just. 932 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm just the tie breaker, so I get it. I 933 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: get off easy in this one. 934 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 5: That's wrong. 935 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: It's so right. 936 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go guy. I'm sorry. 937 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 6: I just think first round pick. Oh the year he 938 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 6: had last year. Okay, you need him like as of 939 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 6: right now, like you really need him to play well. 940 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go, and I'm going guitting because if 941 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 4: you stay healthy and offensive lineman is on the field 942 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 4: one hundred percent of the time as opposed to if 943 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 4: you have a good defensive line rotating. 944 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: Jesus, one of my vote matters, but I would have 945 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: gone Tyler Guyton as well. I do think I highly disagree, 946 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: and I've said this before, with the stigma that follows 947 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: that first round draft pick, especially for an offensive lineman, 948 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's kind of the same as 949 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 2: like a wide receiver that's fair where you can step 950 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: in and it's essentially just it's just different. It takes 951 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: time to learn. And so for me, what I want 952 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 2: to see from Tyler Guyton this year is just improvement. 953 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 2: You've seen it from Mazzie. You've seen it slowly, but 954 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 2: you've seen improvement. I need Tyler Gotton to be on 955 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: the fast track to improvement because, especially without Zach Martin 956 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: on that line, you need ability to start being set. 957 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 2: You need those staples to just be there, and the 958 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 2: only one that you really have at this point that 959 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 2: is sure set. You know what you're getting. It's Tyler 960 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: Smith and that's that's really, that's really it. You don't 961 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: know where Cooper BB is gonna be, you know what, 962 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: Like a word. 963 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 5: He's played all. 964 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 2: Can feel. You're so great. I didn't even have to 965 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 2: worry about you. However, however, he's consistent, but there is 966 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 2: also work that need to be done for and Steel 967 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 2: as well. I'm saying the most consistently well playing player 968 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: has been. However, the offensive line scares me. And without 969 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: a good old line, you can't have a good offense. 970 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: Without a good offense, you can't score. Without a scoring game, 971 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 2: you're not gonna have a great start to your season. 972 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: So puts a little bow on it. Anyways, final thoughts 973 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: on a practice of fun bracket. It was a little 974 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 2: more and I thought it would be hard. I thought 975 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: my heart racing. No, it was a lot of math. 976 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 2: I didn't even draw the bracket. 977 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 9: Right. 978 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 4: If that means that's March madness and not March easy. 979 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 2: True, that was not March easy at all. All right, ladies, 980 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: we have run out of time. Christie, I'm so glad 981 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 2: you were able to cut back on. We missed you. 982 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 2: We love you. Please go follow Christy if you don't already. 983 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 2: She is just the best. And we were talking about 984 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: her before. We were on the phone. We're gossiping about 985 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 2: Christy and we were like, she's one of the smartest 986 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: people we know, and so I hate it, you know, 987 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: I hope you know how how special you are to 988 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 2: us and how much we love you. All Right, that 989 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: is it for today. Christie Scales, Ash Moors and Jesson 990 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 2: Bars here for Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Visiline. 991 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: We'll be back here next week with our usual crew. 992 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 2: We'll see you then. Have a great rest of your week. Bye, guys. 993 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 994 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.