1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Two teams will meet out in the middle of the 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: field to say job well done, job better done on 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: this night by your Detroit Lions. They are still NFC 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: North champions. Is they defend the division title that they 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: won last year. 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to the twenty in the Huddle podcast. Here at 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: their breakers in West Palm Beach is the annual league meetings. 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: And everybody knows the guy sitting next to me Brad Holmes, 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: the general manager Detroit Lions. But Brett, I want to 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: start with this. Have you ever seen the movie Moneyball? 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody out there that negotiating window that starts. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: I always view it, and I think some people may 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: be out there too. That scene when Brad Pitt is 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: trying to trade for ricardover and Cone and he's got 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: two gms on the line, and he's got a secretary, Collin, 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: and he's wondering who's this and he's eating the popcorn 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: trying to wait. You know, I always picture like, that's 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: what that little when it starts at noon on Monday? 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: Is it anything close to that? Or is it? What 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: is that line? 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: It? 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: Is this so organized ahead of time? It's not chaotic 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: because it. 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: Can be you know, I will say this, it can 26 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: be that chaotic. I remember last year, and usually it's 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: not like early in the day. It's usually like later 28 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: on in the evening. But you know, kind of early 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: in the day, you've kind of already done your planning 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: and all your scenarios. You kind of went through everything, 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 3: at least that's how we do it. So you feel 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: pretty good from a preparation standpoint. But then look when 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: that clock strikes, I mean, it's fair game. And so 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: even what you feel good about and what you think 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 3: that you might be able to accomplish, that thing can 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: flip in a hurry. And you know, you might have 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: a Plan B that just flew off and you're still 38 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: negotiating with Plan A, and then Plant C flies off 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: and and now it's like, okay, are you sunk costant 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: to Plan A? And you know, and so so there's 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: that there were some moments, I know last year when 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: we were a little bit more. 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: Active in the external market. 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: You know, it kind of gets you know, late afternoon, 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: early evening and all the way through the night where 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: you have to be very very disciplined. You have to 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: be very disciplined, and you have to be willing to 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: draw a line and walk away if you have to. 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, it it can get pretty aheadache. I don't 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: know if it's you know, I don't have popcorn. I'm 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: not a really a big eater guy when those moments 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: are happening, But yeah, it can get chaotic at times. 53 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: You know. 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: My take from free agency and just from the outside 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: looking in, and you guys obviously added some important external 56 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: peaches pieces. 57 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: In DJ Reid and Roy Lopez and Stuart. 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: But to me, it was a roster that you thought 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: could win a championship last year had not half a 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: dozen guys maybe ended up on injured reserve. It was 61 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: a lot of you know, signing back a lot of 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: your key pieces that was important. You know those guys, right, Brad, 63 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: they fit the culture already. But you did go out 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: and get some some pieces. Is that maybe an accurate 65 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: statement that you really loved. 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: The pieces you had to the roster. 67 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: You thought it was championship You needed to supplement a 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: little bit, which did ye, But it was you've really 69 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: felt good about that roster last Oh. 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we really did. And look, I just want 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: to be clear about the the because the term we 72 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: know the guys. 73 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: You know. 74 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: That's not the only like when when you say you 75 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 3: know a guy, yeah, you know their name and their 76 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: birth date, and you know where they're from, where they 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: went to high school. But when we say you know, 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: like you know what kind of guy they are in 79 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: the locker room, you know what kind of teammate they are, 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: you know what their reliability factor is, you know how 81 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: they are when adversity comes in. You know how they're 82 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: going to respond to adversity, and what their work ethic is, 83 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: and like, you know that's that's all those components come 84 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: into I know this guy, you know you don't. You 85 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: might not always have those details on those external guys, 86 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: but you hope that you can find out enough. Maybe 87 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: it's you know, through when they came out in college, 88 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: or there might be a coach that you know might 89 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: be on staff that might have been with that player. 90 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: So you try to get as much you can, but 91 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: always say about a player's football character often shows on 92 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: film as well, and you know that'd be a case 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: like a DJ Reid, you know his intangibles speak on tape. 94 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: A Stewart like from Indy, like his intangibles speak on tape, 95 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: and so that's what makes you feel really, really good 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: good about it. So again, like I was saying earlier, 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't come in with the plan of like, well, 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: let's just bring all of our guys back. But when 99 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: you start stacking our own guys versus arrested the league, 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: it just kind of made sense. And that's important because 101 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: you do that in every position too. Absolutely, you have 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: a board with your guys and you rank them. And 103 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: sometimes maybe there's a guy that's out there that's a 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: little bit, but sometimes it's your guy. 105 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: And if it's the same price point that what you 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: talked about, those intangible different exactly. 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: If it's if it's very close, you know, there's there 108 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: might be times where you know you have a guy externally, 109 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: you know, stacked right above your own guy, and it's like, ah, 110 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: it's close, but we don't really quite know this guy, 111 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then it's like the 112 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: other guy, the money's close, you know, we'll engage and 113 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: kind of see you know, what the financials are. But 114 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: again that comfort of it's so close, but we know 115 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: what this guy is about, and those are the things 116 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: that matter, especially when you run into the adversity. You know, 117 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: late in the season. Those components matter than just maybe 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: that that that small fraction of what this guy's a 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: tick faster from from the other guy that we don't know, 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: this guy might be a tick faster. Well, is that 121 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: tick faster really worth the unknown? You know, always look 122 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: at Fridge. You can be a little bit of of 123 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: a haunted house and that in that way, and you 124 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: look at the draft. You know, the draft is more 125 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: of a safe house because you have all this time 126 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: to do all this work on the intangibles and all 127 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: that stuff. And look, you know the the haunted house. 128 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: You know, you gotta go through it. You gotta pay 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: your mission, but you got to be disciplined in that 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: hanted house. 131 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: You made another great analogy I thought earlier when speaking 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: to some reporters about free agency and some bills that 133 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: are coming Doe and you you liken it kind of 134 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: the five twenty nine plan. College hits close to my 135 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: heart with a junior in high school, so I know 136 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: I know where this is going. 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: Me and my wife been doing that for a minute. 138 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: But I thought it was a great point because you 139 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: do have some really great players, and it's a compliment 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: to you and the front office and the coaching staff. 141 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: How you build a great football team as you draft, 142 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: you develop, and you resign. Yep, well guess what the 143 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: resigning part is a little bit expensive, isn't it. And 144 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: so you'd love to go get the best free agent 145 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: pass rusher and the best whatever. But you know, bills 146 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: are come due, and that's just the part of it. Yeah, 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: and that's a good problem to happen, isn't it. 148 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: You know it is. 149 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: And look our early years when we first got here, 150 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: we were in a position to be a little bit 151 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: more dependent on free agency. We we were still building 152 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: a team, so we had to be a little bit 153 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: more dependent on free agency. But we had just drafted 154 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: these guys, so we weren't worried about the bill coming. 155 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: So we had the extra surve plat surplus of financial 156 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: you know, of financial resources to spend a little bit more. 157 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 158 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: Well, now now bills are coming in, and that's when 159 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: it comes to the discipline of that's the five two nine, 160 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: and that's the mortgage. And it's like, okay, like we 161 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: really can't take the vacation that we really want right now, 162 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: or we might have to just scale down the vacation 163 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: a little bit. But still I was still thrilled of 164 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: what we were being that we were able to do 165 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: this free agency, because we still did more than I 166 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: thought we're gonna be able to do. 167 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: They'll changeover, obviously on Dan staff, but your front office 168 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: staff too. 169 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: Another problem. 170 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Right when you win, you're gonna lose coaches, You're gonna 171 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: lose front office guys. Maybe just talk about the process 172 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: and the implementation of some of the new guys, how 173 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: they helped benefit of what you thought of kind of 174 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: your staff, and then maybe quickly of the coaching staff 175 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: as well. 176 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'll start with the coaches. Look, I 177 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: thought Dan just he just did a phenomenal job of 178 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: replenishing like he always does. Obviously, we had more than 179 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: what we've ever had to replent this this past year. 180 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: That comes along with the success. But I thought Dan 181 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: did an amazing job of displaying patience and just making 182 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: sure he didn't just rush and all these coaches were 183 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: signing different places and all that stuff, and he didn't 184 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: panic and just get a guy. You know, fit is 185 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: everything for us, and he wanted to make sure that, 186 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: you know, we got guys that fit who we are 187 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: and what we're about, and just along those lines of fit. 188 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: You know, they happened to be really good coaches, you 189 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: know at all start with, you know, what is your 190 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: ability to teach and develop and you know, lead and 191 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: inspire and motivate and uh we we we felt really 192 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: good all about all those additions. And then you know, 193 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: from a front office standpoint, we've obviously you know, we've 194 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: had we've had some losses and some departures there, you know, 195 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: going back to you know, Dave Sears I think was 196 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: one one of the first big ones, and that was 197 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: that was a big one. And then you know, then 198 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: you get a Lance Newmark that leaves, and then you know, 199 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: you have Mike Martin, you have a Johndikma, you know. 200 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: But again, like I said earlier, that that's me and job, 201 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: me and Dan's job to make sure that we have 202 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: successions playing in place. You know, we we hired Dwayne 203 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: Joseph last year from from the Raiders, uh director scouting, 204 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 3: and he's been a huge audition for us, so he 205 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: definitely helped fill a lot of the void that we lost. 206 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of scouting, I'd be remiss if I if we 207 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: didn't talk a little bit about it. And I have 208 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: to say, Brad, I was really proud of myself at 209 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: the combine because you probably know this too. Every year 210 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: I try to ask a question about the draft, whether 211 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: a position group or something. Every year you turn me down. 212 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you're the answer is always kind of you know, 213 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: I like to keep things close to the best. You know, 214 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: we're still you know, we're still analyzed this year. 215 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: Something this year. 216 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: Let you let me have the defensive line this year, 217 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: which I. 218 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: Was so excited about. 219 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: But my question, I'm curious when a position group is 220 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: as stacked as that one is, and all indications are it's, 221 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, one of the better ones and maybe a decade, 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: how does that affect strategy at all? And does it 223 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: at all? Because let's say you're at the end of 224 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: the first round and you know there's a bunch of 225 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: d line guys there that you love, but maybe there's 226 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: another position group you really love too, and you're like, well, 227 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: maybe I get that defensive line guy a little. How 228 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: much does that affect your decision making or is it 229 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: always just this is my guy. I love this guy. 230 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: He's nomber one on my board. 231 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: I'm taking yeah, look, yeah, but no, it's it's it's 232 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: a fair question, because that's me and Dan Are. We're 233 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: truly about man, let's get the guy that we love. 234 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: Like I don't care about the position and all this 235 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: and that, you know, I think the only time that 236 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 3: really kind of makes his way into his quarterback obviously 237 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: is if you have a franchise quarterback like what we do. 238 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: Then obviously if you're in a position to draft one, 239 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: you feel good, then okay, maybe that starts to come 240 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: into play. But but I'll tell you when it did 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: come to fruition was our first draft, and you know, 242 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: we were in the third round and we thought that 243 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: we were going to get a receiver around that time, 244 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: and there were some receivers that we liked, but the 245 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: defensive line, you know, it was it was getting thin, 246 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: and we really liked the Lee McNeil and if we 247 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: didn't get them where we got him. You know, although 248 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: that we wanted to still add a receiver, you know, 249 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 3: we're like, okay, well let's get a lean here and 250 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: then hopefully you know, sat Saint Brown. You know, it's 251 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: a risk, it's a risk, but but it was. It 252 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: was a larger volume just at at receiver. In general, 253 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: a loan it usually is a larger pool. It's one 254 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: of the more VOLUMEUS positions in each draft is receiver 255 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: and corner. But this year the defensive line depth is 256 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: is pretty good. 257 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: You know. 258 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: So again we'll just see how it how it goes, 259 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: but you know, we try not to Yeah, we feel 260 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: good about it, but we try not to let that 261 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: effect like, you know, well, let's just get a defensive 262 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: linement later. Well that's a fascination of the draft. You 263 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: can say later, you wait till later, there's none left 264 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: because everybody's picked. Yeah, so you know you so you 265 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: gotta kind of go by feel. But it's it's it's 266 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: all about the preparation. 267 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: Speaking of defensive line. And a couple more for you here, Hutch, 268 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: how's he doing? How you're liking the rehab and that's that's. 269 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: A nice piece to get back. 270 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's look man, he Yeah. I saw something just 271 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: last week of him doing some mobility things that was 272 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: very encouraging. And there's a lot of sports science that 273 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: goes into those rehab processes, and so you know, his movement, Uh, 274 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: his data that that he's putting out right right now 275 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: is very very encouraging. Uh at this point, and and 276 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: the other thing about you know, a guy like Hutch 277 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: is like you know how he's wired. You know how 278 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: he's wired, And it makes you sleep good at night 279 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: that you know you have a guy that's gonna you 280 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: just go maximum, full throttle and really attack, and it 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: makes you sleep good at night because he's doing Look 282 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: are medical and and and and training staff like they 283 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: can do all they can, but the player has to 284 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: want to really push it and stack hard days. And 285 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: you know how that guys make the games. And so 286 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: when you have a player like Hutch and with our 287 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: you know, great medical staff, you know, it's it's it 288 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: makes it a lot more encouraged. 289 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: I find a one from me. 290 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: We are in this beautiful environment here, it's nice and warm, 291 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: but any proposals, any of the league business that happens 292 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: or does anything jump out to you. I know you 293 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: guys issued a couple of proposals here, some with the 294 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: illegal contact and defensive holding not to be a first down, 295 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: some of the changes to the to playoff format. I'm 296 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: just curious, is there anyone that you feel strongly, strongly 297 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: about or not really You're just gonna see how Yeah, 298 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: we just. 299 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: Kind of see you on Tuesday morning. That's always like 300 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: the fate, you know. You know, we have a lot 301 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: of dialogue back and forth. You know, we we've already 302 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: touched a lot of those topics. We talked, we touched 303 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: a lot of them yesterday, uh in our session with 304 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: all the proposals, and you know, it's always just kind 305 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: of the wait and see. You know, you want to 306 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: always be able to provide more clarity on all of them, 307 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: just to kind of nature case of why you're doing it, 308 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: whether it's you know, the ICT or whether it's the 309 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: playoff season or the ninety. 310 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: Man roster limit. 311 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: You know, you just want to provide more clarity just 312 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: to make sure that the league understands why we're proposing them. 313 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: But we just got to see what happens Tuesday morning. 314 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: We will see Brad Holmes general managers. Just right, Lions, 315 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much for taking the time. Always one 316 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: of my favorite ones down here. 317 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Appreciate them. 318 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the podcast. And I always like this 319 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: segment right here because. 320 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: We talked so much about the on field product and 321 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: we'll get into that a little bit too, but the 322 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: business side of the NFL is so important too, and 323 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: obviously here with the team president Rod Would and last 324 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: year it was the uniforms and a lot going on there. 325 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: What's kind of been the main thing, the big thing 326 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: on your plate this offseason as you've kind of prepared 327 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: for the players coming back and everything else. I know 328 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on in Allen Parkers that been 329 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: in one and the naming rights at Ford Field has 330 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: been big too. 331 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: Well. 332 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 6: A couple of things we got done the naming rights 333 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 6: extension with Ford at the field, which is great. We've 334 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 6: got the Final Four coming up in twenty twenty seven. 335 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 6: The deal was going to expire just before that, so 336 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 6: getting it done so we can maximize the benefit for 337 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 6: forward and market. You know, Ford Field is a destination 338 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: of the Final Four, especially while March Madness is going on, 339 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: it kind of is a great time to do that. 340 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: So that's exciting. And then you know with the facility 341 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 6: while the players are away, we always look at a 342 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 6: off season project or two and we're redoing the locker room. 343 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 6: It'll be you know, space age compared to what it 344 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: you know was. I'm sure they'll be excited to see it. 345 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 6: Some have been in and checked it out and we 346 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 6: had them sit in the chairs to make sure everybody fits, 347 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 6: everything's good. And then we're also redoing the weight room 348 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 6: and you know, significant expansion of that and bringing in 349 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 6: all new weight equipment. So when they get back, everything 350 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 6: should be done ready to go. Off season program starts 351 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 6: in a couple of weeks and it'll be good to go, you. 352 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: Know, and it'll be NFLPA survey is a big thing. 353 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: But you guys do your own survey. I know you've 354 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: mentioned that before too, and just how important is getting 355 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: that that player aspect of those kind of things. And 356 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of teams maybe take it 357 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: as serious as you guys do. But to do your 358 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: own kind of survey and have that player input that 359 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: seems like an important part of kind of that process. 360 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 6: We do it right at the end of the year, 361 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 6: before the guys take off, give them a chance to 362 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 6: voice their opinion on what they like, what they don't like, 363 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 6: what we can be doing better, and we take it 364 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 6: very seriously. And really the weight room and the locker 365 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: room where the result of that survey. And in addition 366 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 6: to that, we talked to the leadership council and say, 367 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 6: here's four or five things we could do. What are 368 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 6: the two or three that you think have the biggest impact. 369 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 6: Those were the two, locker room being number one. That's 370 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 6: more fun than the weight room. 371 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 372 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: The light room's important too, So that was number two. 373 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 6: And you know we have you know in the queue 374 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 6: maybe for next year. The next couple that are also important. 375 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: And it's all about making the players, you know, feel 376 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 6: like they're appreciated, their voice is heard, and when they 377 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 6: come to work, you know, it's a good place to 378 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 6: be and helps them get better and helps them want 379 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 6: to stay there longer. All those things are important. 380 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: One other offseason piece of news is you guys have 381 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: obviously been in the Germany, Switzerland, Austria market. You guys 382 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 2: are entering Brazil now. Just how excited are you and 383 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: kind of what went behind you know, that collaboration with 384 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: with with Brazil. 385 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 6: So we we talked about Brazil a year ago when 386 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 6: we've been on Germany and Canada, we decided to you know, 387 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: let's get our you know, toe's wet in those two markets. 388 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 6: First put Brazil on the back burner. Brazil was in 389 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 6: an attractive market. There's a lot of NFL fans down there. 390 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 6: One of our leading business and football analytics guys Brazilian, 391 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 6: so he you know, helps help us interpret what the 392 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 6: hell's going on down there. And you know there's a 393 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 6: lot of connection to Detroit and the auto industry because 394 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 6: of that. It's in our you know, hemisphere, so getting 395 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: back and forth, you know, there's been games played in 396 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 6: Brazil that could be you know, in the future for 397 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: us down the road. So all those made sense, and 398 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: you know, we've we kind of took a back seat 399 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 6: to going into the national market. Let some other teams 400 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 6: go in there figure out what works what doesn't work. 401 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 6: So we've been able to learn from other teams and 402 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 6: you know, hopefully take advantage of that. We're off to 403 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 6: a pretty good start in Germany with a couple of 404 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: potential sponsors and Saint Brown's huge popular fan over there. 405 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 6: Ye player over there and you see guys wearing his jersey. 406 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 6: He speaks fluent German. So we'll benefit from you know, 407 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 6: being in Germany with Saint Brown and we'll see how 408 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 6: it all goes. 409 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: Speaking of that, when do you expect It's been a 410 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: while since we've been overseas with with London, do you 411 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: expect that coming soon? You've got an extra home game 412 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six is. 413 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 4: Is that maybe the expectation. What conversations have you had 414 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: with the league on that. 415 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: There's no promises or you know, threats of it, But 416 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be our turn, probably in 417 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 6: twenty six when you have your ninth home game once 418 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 6: every eight years, you have to give up one of 419 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 6: those to play internationally, and we're overdue. And if we 420 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 6: were to go, I have voice an interest in playing 421 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 6: in Germany because of the marketing efforts there and the 422 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 6: Saint Brown connection. So we'll see what happens with that, 423 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 6: but that's a possibility for sure. 424 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: You're probably the perfect person to ask this, But just 425 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: how fun is it to be the president of a 426 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: team that's wanted, you know, and you look at the 427 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: television contracts, you look at some of the secondary ticket 428 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: market stuff. I mean, Rob, this team is really, really, 429 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: really popular, and how fun is that aspect? 430 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: Because you've seen both. 431 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: Sides of it, and it's an underdog story and probably 432 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: being on this side of it as a heck of 433 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: a lot more fun, isn't it. 434 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 6: It's certainly a lot more fun, you know. It's it's 435 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 6: great to see the fans, you know, enjoying themselves and 436 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 6: so happy and seeing Lions jerseys and Lions stuff all 437 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 6: over and you know, people yelling go Lions, and you 438 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 6: don't have the Oh my god, I'm phil so sorry 439 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 6: for you. You're Alliance fan. I think we've done a 440 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 6: lot to help, you know, the brand in Detroit and 441 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 6: you know, having the draft there and you know, being 442 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 6: a team that people root for. I love the shirt 443 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 6: that was actually the guys sitting behind me on the 444 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: plane on the way down here says I would Detroit 445 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 6: Lions fan before it was cool. And you know, so 446 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 6: that's seeing things like that. Yeah, you know, put a 447 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 6: smile on your face. Everybody's a lot nicer to me. 448 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: I know that. 449 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: But financially, I mean with with some of the television stuff, 450 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean I think you were you were talking earlier. 451 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: You guys were the number one team on CBS, ABC, Amazon, 452 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: ESPN's second on Fox. I mean, there's a real move 453 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: of popularity with this football team. 454 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: Why do you think that is? 455 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 6: I just think, you know, we have, you know, a young, 456 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 6: exciting team. I think people were for an underdog and 457 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 6: we you know, not been good for a long time, 458 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 6: so being in this position is new and exciting. Certainly. 459 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 6: Dan Campbell's a big part of it. You know, I 460 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 6: think he's a coach everybody loves and I know a 461 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: lot of fans have said, I'd love to have my 462 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 6: Dan Campbell or why can't we get a Dan Campbell 463 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: as a coach. So I think he's a big part 464 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 6: of it. The fact that we score a lot of 465 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 6: points and have some you know, playmakers on offense is exciting. 466 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 6: So all that puts together. And then I think our 467 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 6: fan base has always been rabbid, yeah, and now they're 468 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: just getting the benefits of you know, being fans for 469 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 6: a long time and taking it to a whole other 470 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 6: level and bringing in new fans because of all those 471 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 6: things I just mentioned. 472 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: We talked to Brad down here and really it's a 473 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: player driven league, right, and he made the analogy of it. 474 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: You know, we can't really go on vacation right now 475 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: because of all the young players that we've got. It's 476 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: compliment to the drafting that he's done. But those bills 477 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: come doue, right, And so the focus this offseason on 478 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: just keeping your own Why is that such a big 479 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: focus for. 480 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: You and Mike and Brad? 481 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: And when you when you sit down and decide the cap, 482 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 2: and and that's the way you guys want to go. 483 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, everybody says they want to draft well, 484 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 6: they want to develop their own players, and they want 485 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 6: to resign them. Everybody says that's their plan. Yeah, and 486 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 6: then most people don't draft well, you can't develop them, 487 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 6: and then have to sign free agents and they get 488 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 6: headlines this time of the year because they're signing free agents. 489 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 6: We're getting headlines for signing our own guys, and you 490 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 6: know that's not as sexy sometimes. But the plan that 491 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 6: we're pursuing, I think is the plan that everybody talks about, yeah, 492 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 6: which is you draft well, you develop those guys, they 493 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 6: become stars, they become your foundation, You reward them with 494 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 6: the second contract, and you keep drafting well. And you know, 495 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 6: right now we've been benefiting from a lot of stars 496 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 6: that are on rookie contracts. Those bills are starting to 497 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 6: come due, and you know they'll continue to come do 498 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 6: with with Hutch and you know, Gibbs. 499 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 4: You got branch, Yeah, and it's you. 500 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 6: Know, and you know, those are stars. They just happen 501 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 6: to be on our team. So you're not going to 502 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: win the free agency headlines. But It's a little bit 503 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 6: like trying to win the draft headline. If you draft 504 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 6: the guy that mel Kuiper likes, you might win the night. 505 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 6: But if you draft Juamior Gibbs and number twelve, you 506 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 6: get criticized. Yeah, until he scores twenty touchdowns. 507 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 4: And you're thinking about signing four years later. Yeah, then 508 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: nobody's criticized. Well it obviously, but it's an exciting lash. 509 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: Didn't end the way you guys wanted, but you're bringing 510 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: back your own players. 511 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: There's a lot of excitement around this team. 512 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Dance on a good job with the coaching staff, obviously, 513 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: Brad's getting ready for the draft, and the business side 514 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: seems like it's booming. Everything seems to be going really 515 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: well right now. 516 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 6: Done that, that's a fun time to be, you know, 517 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 6: working for the Lions and being a Lion fan. You're 518 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 6: looking forward to the draft. We you know, again, hopefully 519 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 6: we have another good draft we've had. We got a 520 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 6: great coaching staff. You know, we lost a lot of guys. 521 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 6: I was talking to somebody to day, you know, eight 522 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 6: or nine coaches I think we turned over, which I've 523 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 6: never seen anything like that. But we've been backfilling them 524 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 6: with great new additions. Some of what you guys are 525 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 6: just getting to know and the fans are just getting 526 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 6: to know. But we'll be ready when we get ready 527 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 6: to tee it up in the fall. 528 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: Means your good football team, Rodwood, Welcome to the twin 529 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: Public podcast. Year at the annual league meetings at the 530 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: Breakers in Florida, the man next to meeting needs a 531 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: little introduction, Dan. 532 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 4: Campbell, the head coach. How you doing, Dan Good? 533 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: Good? 534 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: So obviously a tough loss to the end of the season. 535 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm just curious how long does something like that stick 536 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: with you or is it for you just let's get 537 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: back to work, turn this thing around. 538 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 4: I guess what's the motivation after that? What of the 539 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: last you. 540 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 5: Know, a couple of months been like yeah, I mean, well, look, 541 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: I think a press conference right after I was, you 542 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: know whatever, that was two days after the game. I 543 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 5: guess I don't know when that was a day two 544 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 5: days you know, I was ready to go. And it 545 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 5: doesn't mean you know, you asked one is that it 546 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 5: doesn't go away. That'll always be there, you know, no 547 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 5: different than what happened the year prior. You use that 548 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 5: as motivation, But it's important that it doesn't bury you, 549 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: or that you lose confidence or you don't have the 550 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: fight anymore, or it's it's always there as a motivation, 551 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 5: you know. And I look, I've still got to up 552 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: on my board. I've written it and it'll be there 553 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: all year. And it was and it says you failed 554 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: own it? And what am I going to do about it? 555 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: What are we going to do about it? That's the mindset. 556 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: Well, what you guys have began to do about is 557 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: build this roster for twenty twenty five. And just from 558 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: the outside looking at my biggest takeaway from free agency 559 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: is that this was a coaching staff and a front 560 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: office that felt like you guys had a team that 561 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: could win the championship last year. Obviously the injuries added 562 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: up in everything, but you've added some key pieces. But 563 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: the big part of it was resigning a lot of 564 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: your own guys and running a lot of this back. 565 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: Is that accurate to say that you. 566 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Really felt good about that roster? Injuries are injuries still 567 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: going to happen, right, you play through it. But if 568 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: you don't have that this was a championship roster in 569 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: your mind. 570 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we believe that, you know, we did. I think 571 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 5: what we had built and what would would Brad and 572 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: myself have built over the last four years to get 573 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: to this point. Is we had a team that was 574 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: we had just so good a chance as anybody. We 575 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: had the enough talent, we had, the coaching, we had everything. Uh, 576 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 5: and so we did. We felt good about that and uh, 577 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: you know, we're we're going to look to improve as 578 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 5: well in the draft and add to this. But that 579 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: that's the our goal is every year we've got a 580 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: team that that can compete and has a chance to 581 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: win every year. That's that's what we're trying to do. 582 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: Some of the additions. 583 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: Roy Lopez seems like a Dan Campbell guy. He talked 584 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: in his press conference, you know, meet and coach. I 585 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: think Dan can still play. You know, he joked, he's 586 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: a big guy, you know, but how does he fit 587 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: Dj Reed Stewart. Maybe just go through a couple of 588 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: those first wave guys that how they really fit you. 589 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 5: Look, they these well they're the way they play speaks 590 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 5: for itself, you know, and and uh, I mean when 591 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: when we watch guys, look, I tell the team every year, 592 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: I did it again this year, is is Bratton that 593 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: we're we will not bring anybody into this team that 594 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: we don't believe fits us or fits those guys. Uh 595 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: And Man, if you play a certain type of way, 596 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: or you're not going to be a certain type of 597 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: teammate that plays a certain type of way, and you're 598 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 5: not about the hard stuff, or you don't have a 599 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 5: little bit of a chip on your show, you don't 600 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 5: belong with us. And like Lopez, watch him play, man. 601 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: This guy is a he's a dirt bag on the 602 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 5: d line. You know, he plays hard. He's aggressive, he's tough, 603 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 5: he's smart, he's relentless. And then same thing with Reid. 604 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: Watch Reid man. This guy's competitive, he's feisty, he gets 605 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 5: in your face. Man. He challenges at the catch point, 606 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: he challenges on the perimeter, he tackles. I mean that's us, man. 607 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: And you got to be a football player. You got 608 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: to be able to do a little bit of everything, 609 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 5: and certainly do the hard work, the stuff that's that's 610 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: not always the most glorious. You do that stuff, and 611 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: then yeah, you belong here. 612 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: A little bit of turnover on your coaching staff. 613 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, you talk about parcels all the time, Peyton, 614 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: that that coaching tree, right, you reference those guys. 615 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 4: You learn so much from those guys. 616 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: How happy are you for Ben and Aaron to kind 617 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: of start you know, their journeys now and opens up 618 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: your coaching tree. Not but you probably care about that 619 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: as much. 620 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 5: But no, buts it is that's the cycle, right, I mean, 621 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: every year when coaches get head jobs, that's always been 622 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 5: the model, right, It's like, hey, man, we're gonna win here, 623 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 5: and then you know, I know you're here, you're gonna 624 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: get promoted or you're gonna get a chance to go 625 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 5: somewhere else, and and then it doesn't always work that way. 626 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 5: And we've been fortunate here. We've done things right for 627 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: a while. We've we've been able to win, you know. 628 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 5: And because of that, guys are moving up, you know, 629 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: they move up, they move on, and and it's really 630 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: how it's supposed to be. It's it's hard, but I 631 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 5: am happy for them. I'm happy for both of those guys. 632 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 5: And uh, you know, I'll have I'll be happy for 633 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 5: Ben other than two times a year. 634 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: Obviously. 635 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: Some of the news down here are some of the proposals. 636 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Is there anything you feel passionate about? So I know 637 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: you guys submitted a couple of proposals for for the 638 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: ownership to take a look at. Is there anyone in 639 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: particularly jumps out to you that you'd really like to see. 640 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: Or I mean, I don't know how you know, man, 641 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: are we going to down this hill for this? I 642 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: don't know if there's necessarily that, you know, certainly the 643 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 5: proposal for the illegal contact defensive holding, you know that. 644 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: I feel like that would be nice, because I do 645 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 5: think there's you know, it's it's not I don't feel 646 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 5: like that's equal right now. There's that's not equality and 647 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: the penalty itself, you know, But I look, I don't 648 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 5: know if that's gonna make it or not. But I 649 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 5: just know from the number of times that we had 650 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: it wasn't so much the penalty itself. It's a fact 651 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 5: that second sixteen, second twelve, second ten, second ten, third 652 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: and eight. You're like, man, you know this, this illegal 653 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 5: contact happened six yards down the field and it was 654 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: second sixteen. That's I'm a first down seems. 655 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: A little I'm sure a lot of head coaches, probably 656 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: not as many offensive Corontine. 657 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: Coach, I got the defensive guys, he's got it. Look 658 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: all right, coach, let's finish with this. 659 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's obviously such a huge jump in production 660 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: first year to second year. How excited are you for 661 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: some of this second year guys? Heering obviously got a 662 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: lot of playing time and it's not as much because 663 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: of the injuries. 664 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: But you know there's a list of guys, you. 665 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: Know, Wingo and Vaki in Manu, just those second year guys. 666 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: How much of a big jump do you expect from 667 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: those guys? How much can they can they help you 668 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: obviously be no Terrian, but maybe the other guys that 669 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: that didn't see as much. Are you excited about that 670 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: group in the in the progression of the jump they 671 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: could make. 672 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we are. And I think you make your biggest 673 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 5: jump between year one and year two. You know, most 674 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 5: of the time, it doesn't mean you don't improve every year, 675 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: but your biggest jump normally is between those two years 676 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 5: because you learn so much. So yeah, I am looking 677 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: forward to those guys. You know. It was you know, 678 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 5: really tarry On played played the most out of those guys, 679 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: you know, and then Vaki a ton on special teams, 680 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: limited on offense. But but those guys, we also know 681 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 5: there was gonna be a learning curve it would take it. 682 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 5: There's gonna be a little bit of a process with 683 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: growth with these guys, with Manu Mahogany, right with Regstraw 684 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 5: and and so yeah, we expect these guys to really 685 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 5: step up and help us in a big way this year, 686 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 5: take big jump. 687 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: How much is that this process? The draft process fun? 688 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: I know it's the league meetings down here, but you guys, 689 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure have an eye you know, a couple of 690 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: weeks coming. 691 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: Do you like this this part of it? 692 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 693 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: I do this process. 694 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: I do yeah, because you're you are You're you're trying 695 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: to find these guys that you fall in love with, 696 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: you know, and that you really feel like fit what 697 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: you're about and and you know, and you want to 698 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 5: envision them on the football field with the guys around them, 699 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 5: and you want to envision them in the locker room 700 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 5: with those guys. And uh, man, we don't take anybody 701 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: with lukewarm On, you know, like you know, he's a 702 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: productive player. But it's okay, like man, this because then 703 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 5: if it doesn't work out, you got nobody to be 704 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: upset with but yourself. So that that so, yeah, from 705 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: that aspect, it's fun to try to find these guys 706 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: that you just feel like, man that got belongs here 707 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 5: with us. 708 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's a fun time. Free agency obviously finishing up. 709 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: We'll figure out some some league business here. The draft 710 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: is upcoming. Busy time. Thanks for joining me, coach, appreciate 711 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: it 712 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 5: All right, Thank you,