1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hey there, 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Polette. I'm 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: an editor here and How Stuff Works with me as 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: writer Jonathan Strickland. Howdy and uh. We've been looking at 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: some of the most popular articles on the site to 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: get some ideas for podcasts, and today we decided on 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: how l c D s work. That's liquid crystal displays. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: And the listeners to this podcast probably know what that means, 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: but it might be looking at one right now in 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: fact exactly UM, but a lot of people don't know 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: exactly how they're made. I was one of those, UM, 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: and I went back into uh the l c D 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: article that we have on the site, and basically, it's, uh, 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: the screen that you see on your laptop computer or 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: your desktop display is a is a sandwich, as we 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: say in the South. It's UM. It's got a mirror, 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: it's got a couple of pieces of glass and in 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: between it it had as uh something to collect that 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: conducts electricity. UM. And the missing piece in this sandwich 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: UM is not Bologney. It is a fan of liquid crystals. UM. 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: The crystals themselves are sort of in between you might say, 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: what is a liquid crystal. It's sort of in between 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: a solid and a liquid UM. And the key is 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: that uh conductor, the electricity that's behind it UM. These 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: crystals are twisted UM and basically, depending on how much 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: of an electrical charge they receive, the untwist to let 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: more light through. And what you see when you look 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: at the display is the light reflecting off that mirror 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: behind the crystals, and they change to display a different picture, 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, depending on how much electricity red uses or 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: white uses UM. And it's a you know, pretty simple thing, 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: you know. They they're they're one of the big things 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: right now is l c D s and televisions, l 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: c d s and laptops and computers, right and that 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: light is always on, which is why you hear people 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: talk about l c d s and contrast with with 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: with the blacks, because even when your screen is black, 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: it's still back lit. So if you have an older 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: l c D screen, it may not show blacks as 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: well as some of the newer ones. Uh. If you 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: were to to have your your computer on, but have 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: a black screen, uh, and then turn off the lights. 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: You would still be able to kind of see where 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: the screen was, right. Yeah, it's sort of a dark gray, 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, the right gray, rather than a complete black 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: like you might see with a plasma television. That's one 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: of the deals that a lot of people who are 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: plasma afficionados prefer. Yeah, right, right, and and but people 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: also point out that l c D displays tend to 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: be better as far as an energy consumption goes then plasma. 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: That plasma actually takes up more energy to to warm 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: up and keep running. Um, so you would think that 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: l c D s are really the more green, anscious 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: way to go if you're gonna buy electronics. But we 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: just found out something that that kind of puts this 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: into a different light. Yeah, I was, I was reading 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: a story I think it was initially I've seen it 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,279 Speaker 1: in It's actually been in several places that Grist magazine, 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: which is an environmental website. Um, you know, it's been 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: in uh New Scientists, I believe, and it was an 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: article that was based in the Geophysical Research Letters. It is, 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's on my coffee table unfortunately has filled 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: coffee on it and wasn't able to read this article. 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: But it's all about this chemical called nitrogen trifluoride, which 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: is apparently not something you put on your teeth. No. No, 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Nitrogen trifluoride is a gas that's used in the production 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: of l c d s. It's one of several gases 70 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: that are used. Um. It's used in a thin film deposition. 71 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Now that's that's kind of not to get too technical, 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: but you use a vapor to create a very thin 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: film home which l c ds need in order to work. Um. 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: And it's not just l c d s, they're they're 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: used for things like semiconductors and other things as well. Uh. 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: The problem is that nitrogen trifluorides a pretty nasty gas. Uh, 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: not just hazardous to humans if you inhale it, although 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't recommend doing that. First of all, it's got 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: a moldy odor, so it doesn't smell very good, and 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: it can also poison your liver and kidneys, So if 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: you if you're used to have in those, I would 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: recommend not taking a big whiff of nitrogen trifluoride. But 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: it also is environmentally hazardous. Turns out it's extremely environmentally hazardous. Yeah. 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: Try seventeen thousand times more serious than carbon dioxide. That's 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: a that's a big number. Yeah, it's a very big number. Um. 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: The funny thing is this, uh, this was actually intended. 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: This gas is actually replacing uh, chemicals called perfluora carbons, 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: which are greenhouse gases. Um. And they removed those because 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: of environmental concerns that they were contributing to global warming. Right, 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: and and nitrogen trifluoride wasn't even on the Kyoto Protocols, 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, international Climate Change Agreement, that that wasn't listed, 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: so it completely skipped under the radar. It wasn't until this, uh, 93 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: this information in the geophysical research letters that people really 94 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: started to pay attention and say, hey, this stuff is 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: is serious business. That's true. Um. As it turns out, 96 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: there was so little of it being made around the 97 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: time of the the Kyoto Treaty writing you know, being 98 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: written in the nineties that they just they really had 99 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: no idea of the environmental impact of it. But apparently 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: if you produced if you took all the uh n 101 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: F three produced in two thousand and eight, according to 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: the article, and released it in the atmosphere, it would 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: have the same impact as the annual carbon dioxide emissions 104 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: of Austria. Yep. That's UM family global warming, if you will. 105 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: And just to give you a little more perspective, UM, 106 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: there's initial projections for for nitrogen trifluoride production next year 107 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: UM suggest that there will be around eight thousand metric 108 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: tons of the stuff made in order to to make 109 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: these various devices. UM. And then so this is eight 110 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: thousand metric tons that eventually will enter the environment. And 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: maybe years and years from now when people start throwing 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: their their lc D displays away and they you know, 113 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: rupture or whatever, it might be a while before this 114 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: stuff actually makes it into the environment. But you multiply 115 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: eight thousand metric tons by seventeen thousand times the strength 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: of a carbon dioxide as far as a greenhouse gas goes, 117 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: you end up with a hundred and thirty six million 118 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: tons equivalent of carbon dioxide. It sounds like a lot, 119 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: all right, I'm not gonna lie the hundred three or 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: six million that's metric tons. That's that's a lot of tons. 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: But in two thousand five, the United States produced nearly 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: six billion metric tons of carbon dioxide from energy consumption. 123 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: That's everything from coal firing to you know, everything as 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: far as the energy production and consumption goes, including the 125 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: energy that you would need to you know, say run 126 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: your l c D devices exactly. So the six billion 127 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: versus thirty six million, I mean, that's still you're talking 128 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: about so many you know, orders of magnitude. But that 129 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we should ignore this nitrogen tri fluoride problem. 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, that's just on my on my gut feeling here. 131 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of like the trans fat thing 132 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: when it when it popped up, people all of a 133 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: sudden went oh, well, uh, you know, I had no 134 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: idea that was going on, and they you know, now 135 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: that it's starting to you know, show up in the 136 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: public consciousness, then now we're going to have to find 137 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: some other solution that isn't you know, per flora carbons 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: or something else to to make l c D s 139 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: because you know, in the long run, the l c 140 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: D is a is more is more energy efficient than 141 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: a cathode ray tube or you know, some of the 142 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: other devices that it is replacing, So you know, it's uh, 143 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: it's a balancing. You're going to have to find some 144 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: other solution to the other thing is that when you're 145 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: looking at something like lc D displays that that seems 146 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: like it's a much more manageable problem than reducing huge 147 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: amounts of carbon dioxide emissions. It's at least something that 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: we can take steps to to fix. You know, it's 149 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: not a problem that's so huge that you just look 150 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: at it and goggle and wonder what do I do? 151 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Although I good I should also point out this gas 152 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of ironic. Um it's also used in the 153 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: production of photovoltaic cells also known as solar panels. So 154 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: even when we're trying to be environmentally conscious and use 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: renewable energy sources, we may be in the in the 156 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: production of those sources, we might be doing some pretty 157 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: severe damage to our environment. Yeah, well, I think that's 158 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: probably enough depression for one podcast, don't you. Yeah, I'm 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly worn out. 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