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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't pay me for this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room failed with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rostal. Money's right, he doesn't get paid for this.

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Speaker 1: What's happening boys? Hey? Danne? He's absolutely right? Are we

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Speaker 1: in all the time that he's done this for us?

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Speaker 1: There are two things that are never happening. Hey, we

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Speaker 1: never even see him so much as say how you doing,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for years of service and be

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Speaker 1: I do whatever. I'm just saying. We don't come up

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Speaker 1: We've never so much as given him a gift, any

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Speaker 1: sort of thing that resembles a thank you. It says

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Speaker 1: a lot about the four of us, I would say,

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Speaker 1: And Sydney, I don't think this is hyperbolic. I think

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Speaker 1: we've been as complimentary of Matt money Smith on this

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Speaker 1: so so this stands with you two is no gift.

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Speaker 1: We've already our basics. I do thank I mean, I

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Speaker 1: do think it's awesome and I've said many times it's

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Speaker 1: my favorite part of our show. Yeah, what else we

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Speaker 1: want to do? I mean I could think of a

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Speaker 1: him like an elegant dinner somewhere that he could take

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Speaker 1: be home with children and family. Let's just straighten this

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Speaker 1: out right here. Money is already here doing his job,

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Speaker 1: and we have Sydney Sydney. Let Mark know how it works.

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Speaker 1: Money's up here. You slide a piece of paper in

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Speaker 1: front of him, It's something like that, he reads it

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Speaker 1: so he has to say an extra two minutes after

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Speaker 1: you're on their side. I'm just those are the facts

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Speaker 1: done buying him dinners. Well that makes sense too. This

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Speaker 1: is the UH Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: the the first week out of the draft, and you

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Speaker 1: know what that means. You know, what it is when

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Speaker 1: we come back from the draft. That's when we go

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. We really live up to our name

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Speaker 1: and we go each conference gets its own show, Tuesday show.

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Speaker 1: We'll have another show on Thursday, and we will today.

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Speaker 1: We will go around the a f C. And how

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Speaker 1: the Ravens nest. It is one giant nest. Few less minutes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the Ravens get three more. They they're pretty yeah,

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Speaker 1: get eight minutes over two shows. That's pretty good. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Graduations, guys. So everything there are maybe make

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Speaker 1: up for their mediocrity. The last two seasons, two teams,

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Speaker 1: taken to town by stuff, fate or just which. By

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Speaker 1: the way, it wouldn't be that happens all the time

427
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: every season with many teams in the NFL, every team,

428
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, the offensive line would be what I would

429
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: look at. Everything went wrong for them in two thousand fifteen,

430
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Speaker 1: and then everything kind of went right for them two

431
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: thousan if they had some injury issues, Hey, forty years

432
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: old Tom Brady. I'm not gonna say decline this season,

433
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say if he doesn't get the protection,

434
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a sitting duck. Line played pretty well

435
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: last year, but Soldier did not really have his best season.

436
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon's coming off a career year. I could see

437
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: that if they come back to the pack a little bit.

438
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: Got Darante Scornecia. He doesn't let things fall apart. Did

439
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: he retire? Didn't? Did he retire again? No, he is

440
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: back quarterback. Didn't retire. Other you're you're in big trouble,

441
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: Well you are too. That's just about the Jett guess.

442
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: I got both grunts on the roster again, at least

443
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: for the off season. That's amazing that they lost the

444
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: best tight end in history and still won the Super Bowl.

445
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: List they're going to really enjoy him for another eight

446
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: games this year. Let's face it. Well, now we'll see

447
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: we're out of things to even talk about with this team.

448
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: This is just this is proving my point about the

449
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: coffee can they drafted in the seventh round. We didn't

450
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: get to be a big week spot, added Brandon Cooks.

451
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the rosters better than last time. That on offense,

452
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: it is the deepest offensive roster just about I've ever

453
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Speaker 1: seen from any teams, certainly any Patriots team, no question,

454
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: I'm not. Let's move on and talk about the Buffalo Bills. Uh.

455
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: We we hit on this in the news. A little

456
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: bit kind of a meat and potatoes draft for the Bills,

457
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: who've got some picks. Drafted cornerback trade Devious White with

458
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: their first pick. My question, after free agency, the and

459
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: the draft that was sandwiched by firing or the coach

460
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: and the GM, who are the Bills? Do they have

461
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: an identity going into No? I think mc dermott And

462
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: this is what worries me. He hasn't been a head

463
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: coach before, hasn't been certainly hasn't been a GM and

464
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: he just pretty much put on that hat during a draft.

465
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Speaker 1: We gotta see what they're doing. I mean I I

466
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: you'd like to think their offense is going to have

467
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: some of those Denver type of elements after bringing in

468
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: Rick Dennison, But they're they're a mystery to me on

469
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball because they're making dramatic overhaul

470
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: in terms of schematically what they want to do on

471
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, they're totally changing. So I

472
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: don't know. And so we just talked about their ownership

473
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: group and on down that there needs to be if

474
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be patients with the Jets, there needs to

475
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: be patients in Buffalo with a with a new coach

476
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: inheriting some issues. But the one thing you always heard

477
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott and Carolina, and we saw we were

478
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: worried about, like their their secondary, there'd be no name

479
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: in that secondary for one year after the next other

480
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: position groups that he maximized his defense year after year

481
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: in Carolina and whatever came his way. If that's if

482
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: that's his skill, that's great for Buffalo. That was actually

483
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: not happening under Rex. Ryan f a talent on defense.

484
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about Kyle Shanahan and how good

485
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: he was for the Falcons last year, how big of

486
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: a loss that was. Anthony Lynn doesn't get nearly enough

487
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: credit for saving the Bills from a disastrous two thousand

488
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: sixteen season. He has been one of the best run

489
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: game coordinators in the NFL. And it's not the Bills

490
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: have had the best run rushing attack. I don't think

491
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be nearly as good without Anthony Lynn drawing

492
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: up that rushing attack. They they when Les Charbay was

493
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Speaker 1: healthy last year, which only came and fits and starts,

494
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: but when he was right, they were really friskyut offense

495
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: and stretches last year. And Tyrod Taylor you like him

496
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: or not, but he doesn't you know the fact that

497
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't turned the ball over a lot that makes

498
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: that makes them better. Uh, there is potential here. Maybe

499
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins has a little motivated his foot's healthy, he

500
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: actually does something this season. Uh, you know, maybe they

501
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: could be a team that score some point. But in theory,

502
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: they are a top heavy, star heavy offense. McCoy Walkings, Tyrod.

503
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: You bring in Za Jones, He's not a star, but

504
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: he they're gonna ask him to catch a lot of passes,

505
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: like it could be a fun team to watch. I

506
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: think they were fun at times last year to be

507
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: on on offense, they had their moments, but it feels

508
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: kind of like smoke in mirrors that team a little bit.

509
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: And and I'd like to see them actually have a

510
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: chance with one coach to build it from the ground up.

511
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: And I do think McDermott like GM stuff aside. I mean,

512
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: you've got to give him three years. This is year one,

513
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: and their discipline has to be better. Like they their

514
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: season ended because their coach who couldn't get all the

515
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: guys going in the right direction, had ten guys on

516
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: the field one game, that twelve guys on the field,

517
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: and the Patriots in another game when they still gave

518
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: up an They need to get better, better on that.

519
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: You know who had a good draft, Jonathan Williams, the

520
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: favorite of our friend the Consigliari move. Uh Dolphins? How

521
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: about those love that team? Remember when they mentioned in

522
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: the Old Hoodie and the Blowfish that was great? Hey

523
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: does Mike, you know we talked going into the off

524
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: season the Dolphins are gonna spend some crazy money. They're

525
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna get all these fancy players like there will be

526
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: the kind of the the off season champions didn't really

527
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: do that in free agency at some good pickups, but

528
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of it stayed under the radar. Then in the

529
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: draft they go real meat and potatoes. As you said,

530
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: Charles Harris, good pass rusher in round one. Ray Kwon

531
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: McMillan love having a ray Kuan in the league. Really

532
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: all defense, addressing a bad looking defensive roster. It's kind

533
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: of a no nonsense draft. Should we give Tannenbaum a

534
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: little credit forgetting it right and just bringing in some

535
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: sound players that need positions and making a good looking

536
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: roster look pretty good, looking better. I don't have any

537
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: problem giving Tannon bomb credit for this offseason. It seems

538
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: like he resisted the urge to do the annual shopping

539
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: spree in Miami. He beefed up both lines. Their defensive

540
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: front seven looks much better with Timmins, Charles Harris, a deeper, deeper,

541
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: deeper linebacker corps. You mentioned ry Kwon McMillan. I think

542
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: you still have the secondary, which has been routinely burned

543
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I'm not sure how that's

544
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: any better than it's been. You got added t J. McDonald,

545
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: which was a good kind of gamble he suspended half member. No,

546
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: it's half the season, but I think you're adding a

547
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: quality starter at a very cheap price. You're right, it's

548
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: a bad relatively bad looking secondary, but overall they've got

549
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: a pretty nice starting twenty two. I think I agree

550
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: with you. I think they would have liked to draft

551
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: that was heavy on interior offensive lining, where they could

552
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: have beefed up of that position of need. They didn't

553
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: get one until the fifth round. Isaac Asiata related to

554
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Matt not sure. Yes, he is there we go. But

555
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean there are a couple of teams like this

556
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: that had offensive line issues and they weren't able to

557
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: do what they wanted in the draft, and free agency

558
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: didn't solve that. But this is a team that's in

559
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: a year two of what we just talked about With

560
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: the Bills. People absolutely in that building love Adam James.

561
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: I think there's hope in Miami more so than any

562
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: other team outside of New England this division. Yeah, and

563
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: that's good because there if your Bills are Jets vent,

564
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: there's there's literally nothing to really get excited about this

565
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: year in terms of whether you can compete for a

566
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The Dolphins. At least you get to have

567
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: fun and kind of talk yourself into if this goes right,

568
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: this goes right, this goes right, this goes right, we

569
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: can win eleven games. I think that. I think they

570
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: will do that. They'll convince themselves they got a chance

571
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: in I don't think it's that crazy. Come on, Greg,

572
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: you do this every year with the Bills, right, but

573
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: you also had Tony Roma going to Buffalo. Well that

574
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: was that was a long time ago. Tyrod Taylor, we

575
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: find and this is the Dolphins. Don't time. Don't try

576
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: to take that away from them. They are They're so excited.

577
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Don't consistencies. They're very deep on off It should like

578
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Jay a Giant is a legit top ted back. I

579
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: think they believe Laramy is gonna be a legit top

580
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: ten left tackle. It's like they got a young group

581
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: that can kind of grow up together, but it will

582
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: still kind of sneaky steaks about to say it. DeVante

583
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Parker is a big wild card for them. AC North,

584
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: how about we go right to the best team in

585
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: the n f C North, No questions asked. It's the

586
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't want to hear anything else about it.

587
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Don't talk to me about the Ravens. Here's the thing,

588
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: A couple of nights ago, talking to some old lady

589
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: at a bar who's telling me there as a Steelers fan,

590
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: she hasn't much tougher than we realize, much tougher than

591
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: my brown she said, because of all this nonsense that

592
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: the Steelers get close every year and there's always this

593
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: one fatal flaw. I look at the Steelers, what they've

594
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: done on defense over the last couple of years. There's

595
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: certainly their offense is stacked. It's almost like the Patriots question.

596
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 1: This is the one team you look at to say,

597
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: and someone can head to head knock off New England,

598
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: it will be Pittsburgh. I don't wanna hear about Big

599
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: Ben retiring. What is it about the Steelers though this

600
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: year that will invariably undo them? The New England Patriots

601
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: existing outside of another team, what internal man man verse

602
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: himself type force. They're never They have yet to be

603
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: a really good defense from the beginning of the season

604
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: to the end of the season for basically the entire

605
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin run. I mean, they'll get they'll get on

606
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: a little streak, will we'll get all excited on paper.

607
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: I think they've got a long a lot of young

608
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: players on defense, but they're not a team that scares

609
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: you defensively, that that gets big stops in the big moments.

610
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: They certainly weren't when pushed games to shove in the

611
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: a f C Championship game last year. Zone defense, that's

612
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: their issue. The Patriots picked their zone defense apart almost

613
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: every time they play them, and if they meet in

614
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: the FC Championship Game, it's gonna happen again. Because D. D.

615
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: Quinka Ball has been reporting for months that the Steelers

616
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: are gonna address their secondary early in the draft, get

617
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: some guys who can play man demand defense. They picked

618
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: up a third round corner, they did not pick up

619
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: an impact corner or safety early in the draft. I

620
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: think it's the fact that they do not play stout,

621
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: man demand coverage on their defense. Ben Roethlisberger, you know,

622
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: sloppy at times of the ball. We talked about that

623
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: earlier in the offseason, that maybe two thousand sixteen season

624
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: what wasn't as good as some others believe. Martavis Bryant's back,

625
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: but he's a knucklehead, so We'll see what happens with

626
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: that Levy on Bell, I mean, pound for pound, maybe

627
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: the best running back in the league. Also always hurt,

628
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: always get st got hurt again in the playoffs. Uh

629
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: So nothing is certain with their offense, although in terms

630
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: of top shelf or top ceiling they may be higher

631
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: than anything. It's like, I'm not buying anyone who says

632
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, for instance, though, are a team with

633
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: a better chance than the Steelers. I mean they finally,

634
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: if you finally put it together. I don't see another

635
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: team outside of New England as the chance to go

636
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: to the the Super I always trust the offense first. I know,

637
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: I just said, you know that's been their problem has

638
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: been defense. But you still got Roethlisberger. You would hope

639
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: with another, you know, really strong year, and you've got

640
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: Bell and Brown at their absolute prian line and Brian Beck.

641
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'd take this offense over the Patriots,

642
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: which is crazy, how because I have how good the

643
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Patriots are. I want to know, did you give that

644
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: old lady the verbal tongue lash and she deserved? Did

645
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: you dress her down? I mean she's an old lady,

646
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: which she wasn't old and that's not fair to call

647
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: she was older than me. It wasn't. He wasn't talking

648
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: to a seventeen year old or something. West. Any woman

649
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: other than Mark is dead to him. Mark declared the

650
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Steelers obviously the best team in the a f C North.

651
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: That's fine, but the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens did not

652
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: fix their offense, but this seems like they're getting back

653
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: to their defense and running game roots. We Mark mentioned

654
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: on last podcast they have visions of the Cowboys offensive

655
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: line in their head and their defense, which was number

656
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: one for portions of last year, picked up guys like

657
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson and Brandon Carr in free agency and then

658
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: a slew of early round draft picks. Should the Ravens

659
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: be that considered the number one defense in the NFL,

660
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: entering the two wow way they closed last season, they

661
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: have to be in the conversation. I mean that Steelers

662
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Ravens game at the end of the year. I wanted

663
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore to get into the playoffs because of the way

664
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: they're playing it. At that point, they were fun to

665
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: watch and I think that you have to trust Ozzy

666
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Knewsom when he says I'm going to rebuild a defense

667
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: over one two or three years because he's done it

668
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: three times at this point. I think they addressed the

669
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: defense so strongly West because they knew they had issues.

670
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I think it was smoking mirrors in the secondary. Uh,

671
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: you don't really have who's there like premier pass rusher.

672
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean they cut Elvisdoomerville, not that he was playing

673
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: well for them, sugs isn't really that guy, Larry Guy

674
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: goes and leaves for the Patriots, Zach Or retires. That's

675
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people to fill in. It's a good

676
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: team defense, but it doesn't. I don't I would not

677
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: put them with the best defense. Well, there aren't any

678
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: dominant defenses, which which is a fair point. The Ravens

679
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: defense impressed me over the course of X team games

680
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: last year more than any other teams. Like I would

681
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: take the Broncos for sure as a roster over that.

682
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: The team that got would on the ground everybody last

683
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: year in fantasy or whatever like that's over their rosters.

684
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: How have they improved that problem? Like the Vikings I

685
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: think is a better roster. There's another one they can't

686
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: get out of their way in terms of their offensive

687
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: team building, though it feels like the third fourth year

688
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: in a row and one of many where they don't

689
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: have a wide receiver that you're really scared of. Your

690
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: running backs are a collection of, you know, confusing people.

691
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: At this point, you can't Perjeck what they're gonna be.

692
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: That's not gonna work. Here's the road map to eleven wins.

693
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: That defense week one to seventeen plays like they did

694
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: last year. Two games against the Browns, maybe two against

695
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals if they fall apart. Joe Flacco now a

696
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: year removed from a c l UH surgery, you know

697
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: you think he'll be a little bit better. And then

698
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: the secret weapon of this team is you have a

699
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: kicker in Justin Tucker who played that position at the

700
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: highest level it's ever been played last year. Go check

701
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: the tape. You put those three things to gather tape.

702
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: You can win eleven games and then the playoff games.

703
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: John Herschel is very good at matth He's very smart. Yeah,

704
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: smart guy, he can figure out a way to win.

705
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: Kind of convinced me I like this team. It is

706
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: a very deep secondary. They're counting on guys step up.

707
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Kamale Korea, Bronson US like they're talking at second year

708
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: players that are gonna be starters. Who's the Browns biannual

709
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: may optimism aside? Why should we think the Browns will

710
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: be any better from a win loss uh standpoint? If

711
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: they still don't have a quarterback for the season, what

712
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: makes us think they're any better than four and twelve

713
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: or less um if they still don't have a guy

714
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: they can count on this year. One thing I think

715
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: that they did was they went out which some about

716
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: all these meat and potatoes teams. They vastly improved their

717
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: offensive line. Their offensive line to strength now and the

718
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: rest of it. I think that alone, you went one

719
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: in sixteen, you can get two wins off of that.

720
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: They also lost a couple of freaky games last year.

721
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: It's going one and fifteen is not far from who

722
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: they are, but it's hard to go one and fifteen.

723
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: They were more like maybe a two and fourteen three

724
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: and thirteen team. I'm not seeing they're good, it's just

725
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: that you have added parts you're in second year of

726
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: the system. I think there were flashes on offense. That's

727
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: not the right word, but there were moments where Cleveland

728
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: could move the ball and overachieved a little bit. If

729
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: you get even B C plus quarterback play, you can

730
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: squeeze a few more wins up. The last time you

731
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: got that, those moments think you referenced happened early in

732
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: the season when there was a foundation running game, when

733
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: there was decent offensive line play that all fell apart.

734
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: The running game Isaaiah crow L played really well early

735
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: last year, and then the offensive line wasn't there. But

736
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: I think you get Kevin Zeitler in there, you brought

737
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: in a couple offensive lineman. Hugh Jackson can scheme and

738
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: running game, and I think you're right they should be

739
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: more competitive this year. I of like Duke Johnson a lot.

740
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: I went back and watched him, and I think he's

741
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: a really good third down back. I mean, if he

742
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: was on the Patriots of the Falcons, he'd be a

743
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: mini star. Well that's when he'll probably explode career. Was

744
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler. I know he's not gonna be a great

745
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, but I would not be surprised if Week

746
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: five people are like, well, you know this, Cody Kessler.

747
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: He's not as bad as everyone said, because I think

748
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson scheme him up, you know, coach him up

749
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: to make him distribute the ball. They've got enough talent

750
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: around him that he's just passable, maybe for a while,

751
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: maybe it's not even a whole season, but he gets

752
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: people going. Kenny Bridd feels destined to be another Brown's mistake.

753
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: To me, we'll see how it works out. Don't know

754
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure though Corey Coleman this year. I

755
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: think so too, and I don't. I don't know why

756
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: the troll prior thing the way it worked out. It

757
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: is is what it is. But that what you need

758
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: now is Corey Coleman to play up to his draft potential.

759
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: Greg Williams is a big reason why they can be better.

760
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, he gets Miles Garrett, he gets

761
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: to Bill Peppers, he gets Danny Shelton. He's a big upgrade.

762
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I think they have been an utterly punchless defense for

763
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: the entire century. So if even if they were to

764
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: play a little meaner, I've been tings downstairs a lot.

765
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Please you show up with some attitude. What's your what's

766
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: your theory? You don't want them to you get it?

767
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: You do all sorts of charity work, stand up, be braggy.

768
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: You please with Greig Williams. That will not be a problem.

769
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Stand up, be braggy. The two thousand seventeen Cleveland Browns.

770
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: Williams on West's radar all off season great. The Cincinnati Bengals,

771
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: even when they were good, we're not always the most

772
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: fun team to watch. Maybe it's because we weren't really

773
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: big Andy Dalton fans. After adding John Ross and Joe Mixon,

774
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: does this team have a you know a little bit

775
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: of juvenation where they can compete in this division again

776
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: as we were expecting them to really for for years

777
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: and years and then be can they be a little

778
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: fun to watch? I mean, look, putting everything for mixing

779
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: off the field, decide you are adding two pretty dynamic

780
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: playmakers on offense to an offense it's already got a

781
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: j Green and Tyler Eifer. It's a good question, and

782
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: on paper that would be true. But if you uh

783
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: look at the teams that will probably have the best

784
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL this year, what separates the guys

785
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: like the Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Packers from

786
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL is offensive line play. They

787
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: all have top five to ten offensive lines, and the

788
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: Bengals last year had one of the worst offensive lines

789
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: in the league. Then they watched their two best offensive

790
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: lineman leave and bypass those positions in the draft. I

791
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: think they are going to be undone by their offensive line,

792
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to believe they won't be. And they

793
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: they came out of free agency with us killing them

794
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: for exactly what you mentioned, and with the second most

795
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: amount of draft picks in the league. All they do

796
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: is at a center in the fifth round they I think,

797
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: and the Giants will get to the Giants on Thursday.

798
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: But they're in a similar position I think to Cincinnati

799
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: where the timing didn't work out for them when you

800
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: your biggest hole was offensive line when there wasn't great

801
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: options in free agency and it was a bad draft

802
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: as we saw with the way the GMS decided to

803
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: draft talent in this draft, with barely taking any offensive

804
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: line in the first couple of rounds. Uh So they're

805
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: kind of a tough spot there. So what are you

806
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: gonna do overpay for bad offensive lineman or overdraft prospects

807
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: that are flawed. If you overpaid for your own offensive

808
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: lineman who you let walk out the door. They were

809
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: solid above average in some cases pro Bowl player. I

810
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: just look at the Bengals and it's a it's a

811
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: it's a cautionary tale of when you get a good roster,

812
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: you have about a half a decade window to puncture

813
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs and get to the super Bowl. And they

814
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: couldn't win one game. And I don't think it's over though.

815
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a young team. To me, it's overall,

816
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: it's a young roster. They got problems, and I I

817
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: can't argue with anything you said West about the line.

818
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Their season probably comes down to Jake Fisher and Boo Booya,

819
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: who are their top two picks in two thousand fifteen,

820
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: and they haven't really shown anything, So I mean, it

821
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense that that will end up

822
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: killing them the one thing they can hope for. I guess,

823
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, like offensive lines are kind of like uh,

824
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, bullpen in baseball. Sometimes they just are good

825
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: better than you think. And if that pre John Raws

826
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: and mixing to your original question or about two of

827
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: the more electrifying players you could have possibly dreamt of adding,

828
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: so on the Bengals to develop those linemen, better have

829
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: a good offensive line. Coach Gun there right, a f

830
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: C South Mark get us going all right? The Texans.

831
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: In less than two months, the Texans have handed away

832
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: next year's first and second round picks to the Browns.

833
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: That said, the roster has barely improved from mind, looking

834
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: at during that time period, it wasn't like they got

835
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: a major haul off of that. Are we staring at

836
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: next season's surprise total implosion? France Eyes, I'm again the

837
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Texans Texas. I'm inclined to believe we are. And you

838
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: can make the argument that their quarterback play can't really

839
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: get any worse than Brock Osweiler, But I think Tom

840
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Savage can get worse. I think the one game he

841
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: started in his NFL career was a horrible game. I

842
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: believe he has I maybe he had two completions for

843
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: the entire first half. It was just a brutal game

844
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: to watch. And no way do I think Tom Savage

845
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: is leaps and bounds better than Brock Osweader. This is

846
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: a team that got really lucky last year in close games.

847
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: They got really lucky with injuries outside of J. J. Watt,

848
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: and they finished twenty nine in d v O A

849
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders metric. This to me is not a good team.

850
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: They are. They are a nine and seven team. They're

851
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: really a six, six and ten team masquerading is nine

852
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: and seven last year. You get what back though, which

853
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: is he also lost three starters on defense. I I

854
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: think they could be the team, the creator, or just

855
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: that they're going to be in that mix where their

856
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: third place in the a f C South at six

857
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: and seven after thirteen weeks and just a generically bad team.

858
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: I do think Savage will be better. I think he

859
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: showed more in the in the two games that he played.

860
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: He did not make mistakes. He was a pretty big

861
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: upgrade mistake. He took too many sexs. Their line played

862
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: so bad in that game. I watched that game again

863
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: closely just to talk about Savage and their Their line

864
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: gave him no chance in that game. It's all in

865
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: that game. It's almost beside the point because what's the

866
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: over under when we wait, what's the over under when

867
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: we see the Shawn Watson Week three. I think he's

868
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: gonna play at least twelve. They're gonna be really bad

869
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: because they have a rookie quarterback or or and this

870
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: is the other side of the Gwinn Watson can play

871
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: and he is this year's Dak Prescott. Something like that happens,

872
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden things look totally different.

873
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: If youve got a guy that can play the position,

874
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: and you have J. J. Watt back, and you have

875
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: Clowney coming off his most promising year, and he have

876
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: a nice backfield, and you have the wide receiver weapons,

877
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: I think I can totally see the creater angle like

878
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense, especially if Watson isn't

879
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: ready or if he's no good, which is obviously an option.

880
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: But I also think they are the biggest boomer Bus

881
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: team in the league. Right they go, they go within

882
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: ten or eleven games too. I hear you when we

883
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: say this year is Dak Prescott. Dak Pressy doesn't happen

884
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: every year. It happens. It happens never once or once

885
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: or twice. If he could be if Watson could be

886
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: a solid rookie starter, which means you're not even one

887
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: of the best dances that happen like this guy pressure situation,

888
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: but O'Brien will pull the tricker. Not a good looking

889
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: offensive line, I mean, all these teams have shaky lines

890
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: on paper, and this is another one that's not looking.

891
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: Titans showed flashes, flashes last year where they were the

892
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: clear best team in the in that division, just flashes.

893
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: They need to put it all together. And then they

894
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: have a draft which Greg Rosenthal declared them to be winners.

895
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: They get Corey Davis and Dorry Jackson, pick up a

896
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: talented tight end. Is this team now still a year

897
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: away from making a true impact in the a f

898
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: C playoff picture or are they ready now to start contending?

899
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: They are ready now because you can win the division

900
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: with what they have already. I love the wide receiver

901
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: they drafted. It's an absolute part. It's it was it

902
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: was value where it was picked, and it was an

903
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: absolute need for them. That's when the draft goes right

904
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: for you. We're talking about being a player in the

905
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: a f C playoff picture. The a f C is

906
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: relatively messy. There are only one or two teams we

907
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: really can truly truly respect in the a f C

908
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: as thunderous super Bowl opportunities. So they're just about winning

909
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: the division, getting into the playoffs, and winning a playoff

910
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: game potentially at home. Yes they can, that's all I'm asking.

911
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: Can they win? And I would be surprised if they

912
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: don't make a one of these type of leaps. Now,

913
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: this division always has predicting incorrectly someone, but I think

914
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: the Titans are built differently these other teams that we've

915
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: put together before. I'm a little spooked after what happened

916
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: last year because we were just as high in this

917
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: team going into last year and it took him a

918
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: to get going. Once it did get going, it all

919
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: made sense. What's gonna be, Well, we're pretty high. Let's

920
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: listen to this podcasts last summer and hear about what

921
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: the Titans were gonna be in an FC South. I'm

922
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: just saying that I think they were that. Yeah, we'll

923
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: see if you know, at the end of the day,

924
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: they were what whatever they were? Nine games they were

925
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs of Mariota doesn't go down potentially,

926
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: who know. Um My point is, are they ready to

927
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: make that leap? Are they gonna put it together for

928
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: sixteen games? Because talk about upside like Mariota could be

929
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: an m VP candidate. Now they built the line for him,

930
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Now they got the playmakers. I think he needs to

931
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: take another step forward, and there's every reason to believe

932
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: that he will. Considering the progress he's shown so far.

933
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: I think my initial instinct is this team will come

934
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: back a little and like, Okay, when can I make

935
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: a case for the Jacks. I really like the Jack's

936
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: you know roster. Can I make a case for the Colts?

937
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: They certainly have the best quarterback in the division. The quarterback,

938
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't think, but it's not that's just contrarian thinking.

939
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: This is the right team, This is the best right

940
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: in the draft. Put it over the top. I mean,

941
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: because they're they're so good upfront, they have a quarterback,

942
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: they have a running game, and this draft with Corey

943
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: Davis and Taiwan Taylor, they added some sizzle, they added

944
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: some playmaking. Their secondary is certainly better. It's it's not

945
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: a perfect team, but and who knows, it might not happen,

946
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: but they are the best team here. They are the

947
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: best team. Here's their number one issue. As much as

948
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: I like Mariota, he's ended the last two years on

949
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: I r y, he's not He's not a durable quarterback

950
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: so far in his NFL career. No GM has done more,

951
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: I think in two off seasons than John Robinson and

952
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee the couple of the others that are close, but

953
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: he's transformed that team. You know what else you can do,

954
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: Get a backup quarterback in there instead of Matt Castle.

955
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: Need a little more in the front seven. It's not

956
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: a it's not a tear. It's not a bad front seven.

957
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: It's not a linebacker. The Cults. I traded. I trade.

958
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: We in this exercise, we did a draft to pick teams.

959
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: I traded the Titans, the Cults of the Titans, the

960
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Titans for the cold, and then forgot I did that

961
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: and prepare the Titans. But on my feet, I'm gonna

962
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: scramble right now. I thought you said no, we're not

963
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: making the trade. You said no, that's fine. I thought

964
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: we did make the trip. It doesn't matter because I'm

965
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Cults, right that's my team. Yes, yes,

966
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: you did make the trade, because did make the trade. Yeah, no,

967
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: we didn't. You you were very excited about the trade,

968
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: marking out, robbing the Colts of their time. Trade never

969
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: happened anyway, anyway, So the Colts, they've had a nice offseason.

970
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: They got that g M. I don't know what's going

971
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: on with that guy, but he's doing a nice job

972
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: so far. Favorite type of frog they have. They went

973
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: defense defense defense for the first in the first three rounds,

974
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: got alignment in the fourth round the offensive line, and

975
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: we'll see. But are they finally doing right by Andrew

976
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: Luck and they go to the right direction again? There

977
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: a couple of lost years, it felt like. So by

978
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: joining right by Andrew Luck, does that mean surrounding him

979
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: with guys who can block, form and catch the ball

980
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: or does it mean giving him a defense that can

981
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: finally allow him to keep pace with other teams. You

982
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: can't fix it all in one off season. I think

983
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: they've They've tried to do both, but it's basically they've

984
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: taken the approach. I think that makes sense, which is

985
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: they're just trying to fix the defense because I think

986
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: the offense is okay. I don't think the offensive line

987
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: even played that poorly towards the end of last season.

988
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Like you're stuck with Costanzo, Like if he just plays

989
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: poorly like he did for parts last year, like cut

990
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: him next offseason, but he has a big contract. I

991
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: I like this offense should be a good offense. And

992
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson, you asked, is it this or that? Is

993
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: it fixed the offense? Give weapons so that Ryan Grigson

994
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: left them with all those holes, and so there's only

995
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: so much you can do in one free agency class

996
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: and one draft. But I mean Dan's issues aside with

997
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: Chris Baller, I think that or your your concerns or

998
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: whatever the word would be you're from, you want to

999
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: look at we just about John Robinson, the Cults now

1000
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: of a general manager. I think that gets it. That

1001
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: is building that is able to do, make it a

1002
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: lot happen in one off season. A lot of teams

1003
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: in the the league don't get this done. I think he's

1004
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: done a lot to change and toughen up the Colts.

1005
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: They have counted on their coaching staff and their young

1006
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: lineman to make the leap, and I don't think they

1007
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: really have fixed the offensive line. No. I agree Costanzo is,

1008
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: like Greg said, he's a wild card. Jack Muller at

1009
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: left guard and Ryan Kelly at center can be way

1010
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: above average starters. They have that potential. But the right

1011
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: side of this offensive line got killed lest yet and

1012
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: and projects to get killed again this year. But you

1013
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: can't fix everything. And that's half of a decent offensive line,

1014
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: which is just as much or more than a lot

1015
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: of teams have and their secondary going into the draft

1016
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: was maybe the worst on on paper of any team

1017
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: in the league. If Fante Davis isn't healthy or doesn't

1018
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: turn back into Vante Davis, it really hasn't been himself

1019
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So they addressed that Hooker

1020
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: seemed like he was a great value. When you can

1021
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: get a great value, Hooker can do it. How about

1022
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: this right guard didn't sell good? Maybe get a new

1023
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: last name, that's heel bad. I liked him going out

1024
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: on the Hooker bit. Well, I don't you know that's

1025
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: that's absolutely fine. Good commentary by Greg on the uh

1026
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: An industry that he apparently is uh intrigued by. Before

1027
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: we move on to a West, I just want to

1028
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: are they're still around. They're still alive, and I think

1029
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: they're a good look at roster I was. I wasn't

1030
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: into them last year. I've never I've never bought the

1031
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars type. I think they now have so much that

1032
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: even even this team can't blow it. I think they're

1033
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: gonna be competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if they can

1034
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: get a better Blake Bordles. I guess that wouldn't take much.

1035
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how high that ceiling is or not.

1036
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: But when you look at this defensive roster and really

1037
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: you know the skill position talent, now that you add

1038
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Leonard four net, how can this team lose more than

1039
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: ten games or nine games? Can't? Aren't they gonna be competitive?

1040
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: Don't they have a shot? Isn't this the second most

1041
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: interesting team in the division? But they still have Lake Bortles?

1042
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: What what have we seen other than a couple of

1043
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: tropes out there that he's gonna be any different than

1044
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: the guy last year? And because they they did not

1045
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: make any move together, They didn't make a move in

1046
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: the draft, they didn't make a move of the free agency,

1047
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: so their sinker swim with Blake Bortles after what was

1048
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: a dispiriting performance last season. I agree with Greg it

1049
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: down it is possible that this is like two fifteen

1050
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: and he does a fix to his mechanics that gets

1051
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: him through most of the season. But everything we say

1052
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: in may means nothing until they put the pads on.

1053
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: He goes out there and shows that his mechanics are

1054
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: cleaned up. This is a guy who famously told rich

1055
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: can't rich gannon last year? I am not a natural

1056
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: thrower of the football. I think they plays quarterback. I

1057
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: think they're hoping that Leonard four net is, you know,

1058
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: the fulcrum of their office. He can't pass, he's a

1059
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, here's the thing. I think every

1060
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Speaker 1: I for me, I allow myself show it to me first.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit around and overpraise this team.

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Speaker 1: I do think that they already should have been good

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Speaker 1: with the talent they have on defense, and then you

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Speaker 1: and then you add class Campbell. I like all that,

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Speaker 1: Like all they throw a lot of money around a freeze. See,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is the tipping point, but you've got to go.

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Speaker 1: You've got to go do it. And you you have

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Speaker 1: not solved your biggest issue coming out of last season

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Speaker 1: and a totally disparity one your quarterback. And you also,

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Speaker 1: you know the offensive line, which isn't a team strength.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do a lot of work there. And maybe

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Speaker 1: again they're in the same situation as these other teams

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Speaker 1: where they would have liked to but there wasn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of options out there. Did take Cam Robinson high

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Speaker 1: in the second round, I think the second or third

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Speaker 1: lineman pick. So they're hoping he might end up playing

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Speaker 1: left tackle, though, because their their left tackle they traded for.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't want to show up Brandon Abbert. Let's say

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Speaker 1: they say they have a league average quarterback. Let's say

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Speaker 1: you put Andy Dalton on the Jaguars. Do they have

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Speaker 1: the strongest roster in the division? I would then, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I like them and the Titans, but yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: think they're a ten win type of team. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair there. There's nothing wrong with their roster except

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Speaker 1: for the most important position in professional sports. Shouldn't you

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Speaker 1: say that about like many many teams that have a

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Speaker 1: bad quarterback? Though, no, I don't. I don't think just

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Speaker 1: play average and you can win tend game. You could

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Speaker 1: say that about the Texans. Yeah, but most of those

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Speaker 1: teams they don't have for Nett and Allen Robinson and

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Speaker 1: Campbell and Malik Jackson and Jalen Ramsey, Alon Ramsey, I

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Speaker 1: mean they got some players. Before we move on to

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Speaker 1: the a f C. West, I just want to say,

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Speaker 1: according to our instant messaging excuse me, or it instant

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Speaker 1: just named it. There was a trade. That trade did

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Speaker 1: go through. It was agreed to and and west. Now

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Speaker 1: you know going back there was no agreement. Well, you

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Speaker 1: took the Titans. That was the trade. So you offered

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Speaker 1: the trade. Then Dan said, nah, that's fine, and never

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Speaker 1: You have the slack right up there right, I can

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Speaker 1: look at it. I can tell you that at no

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Speaker 1: the trade. Then Dan rejected it, and then a bunch

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Speaker 1: of conjecture happened day after that. I know what happened

1109
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Speaker 1: was you offered the trade. I initially said no, then

1110
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Speaker 1: immediately changed my mind and then said, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: We have a trade. And then Mark wrote there's a

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Speaker 1: trade in all caps, and then other At what point

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Speaker 1: did I accept? What do you mean? You're the one

1114
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Speaker 1: that offered it and then you turned it down. Wait

1115
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Speaker 1: a second, but you never came back to me, was

1116
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Speaker 1: saying okay, no, no, no, no, before you ever reply

1117
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Speaker 1: side after that that you want to take it again

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Speaker 1: without asking me. If I was a lawyer, you know,

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Speaker 1: presenting this case, I would ask did three of the

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Speaker 1: four people in the chat room. Understand that there was

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Speaker 1: a trade. You and Mark are immaterial to this trade,

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Speaker 1: just flat out immaterial. No one asked John, No one

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Speaker 1: the Pears. What are you talking about? West? Why aren't

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Speaker 1: you a lawyer? By the way, I feel like you

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Speaker 1: Stand down. I think I could do this. There is

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Speaker 1: the exact six. I'll trade you Titans for Colts if

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Speaker 1: you're underwhelmed, Dan, Dan, this is within one minute. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Actually, okay, trade Mark all caps. We have

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Speaker 1: a trade. I don't know. I mean it's and then

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Speaker 1: one was that. No one ever gave me what I

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Speaker 1: asked for. Clearly, I'm still negotiating at that point. Now

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Speaker 1: he's just he's just spinning. Now he's now, he's a

1139
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Speaker 1: spinning at all. You turned down my offer. Now he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's a public defender. If you turned down

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1142
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Speaker 1: and then you come back with another offer, doesn't the

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Speaker 1: other guy have to accept it in order for it

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Speaker 1: to happen. No, it was accepted. And then I, because

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Speaker 1: I was being magnanimous and said, hey, let me also

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Speaker 1: throw in this, throwing in something like we were negotiating.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of magnanimous, that's where it all started from, when

1149
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Speaker 1: get you off the Colts. And this is the trouble

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, the a f C West Mark. Well, we

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Speaker 1: have a little breaking news in the a f C West.

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Speaker 1: Anyone want to oh hib another one said, hip me

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Speaker 1: with an Arson. The Broncos have agreed to terms with

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Speaker 1: running back Jamal Charles, formerly of the Chiefs, to a one.

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Speaker 1: Deal looks to be worth about three point up to

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Speaker 1: three point seven five million up to. I'll be curious

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Speaker 1: let's say a million dollars of its guaranteed, then I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking Jamal Charles gonna be on that team and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have a significant role. We have no idea what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get out of Jamal Charles, but it sure

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Speaker 1: seems like a team he could be fun playing on

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Speaker 1: like that. I admire Greg Rosenthal's diligence and just absolutely

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Speaker 1: unwillingness to give up on the fact that you cannot

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Speaker 1: The second we break the news, we don't know like

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Speaker 1: you can analyze. Well, right right now, you can't back

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Speaker 1: to Jamal Charles. This is a backfield. Now You've got C. J.

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Speaker 1: Anderson back there. You wonder how that's gonna shake out.

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Speaker 1: And just like West I saw you were active on

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Speaker 1: social media today with anybody in the mark ingram or

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, UH conversation over in New Orleans. Uh. To me,

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Speaker 1: it will be a similar situation here. The guy that

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Speaker 1: plays the best is going to get the most carries

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Speaker 1: and it could be Jamal Charles. All those knees are right,

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Speaker 1: but you also wonder if his best football is behind

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Speaker 1: him just too many injuries. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: more reason to be concerned with Jamal charles knees than

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson's considering Charles keeps having surgery on his knees

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Speaker 1: and hasn't been right in what two years? You're right.

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Speaker 1: The thing that Charles does have going for him is

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Speaker 1: he has never really played in the NFL except at

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Speaker 1: a down as Adrian Peterson, no but these are two.

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Speaker 1: That's the type of Hall of Fame level production you've had.

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Speaker 1: It's not that Jamal Charles has ever been bad, he's

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Speaker 1: yards per carry. So if you can keep him on

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Speaker 1: the field, he's shown that he's gonna be a good player,

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Speaker 1: at least to this point. And it's funny we brought

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Speaker 1: up Adrian Peterson because when Jamal Charles came back from

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Speaker 1: his first a c L tear a few years back,

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Speaker 1: he had a monster season. It would have been seen

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Speaker 1: as the best season ever back from an A c

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Speaker 1: L tear. But it just happened to the year that

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson came back and ran for two thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: So now this is three or four years later, this

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Speaker 1: is back to back seasons with the issues. We don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I Mark I like the signing for Denver. I

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: feel like, what for two million bucks? If it's something

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Speaker 1: around there in terms of guaranteed money, it's worth the gamble.

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Speaker 1: Why not if you're the Broncos. I mean he is

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Speaker 1: eighty three carry since and he's got multiple knee issues,

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Speaker 1: multiple knee operations. So I I'm rooting for him, but

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a home run guarantee. I mean, addition,

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Speaker 1: he's he averages five point five yards per carry and

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Speaker 1: now he's at thirty one years old, so he's gotten

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Speaker 1: to that point. He is literally has the highest yards

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Speaker 1: per carry average of any true running back in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: And mean, that's amazing. Marion Motley and a couple of quarterbacks.

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: Motley was really a fullback, but the only guy is

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Speaker 1: really ahead of him. That's that's wild Marion Motley, whom

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Speaker 1: Paul Brown deemed the best football player he ever saw.

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Speaker 1: And history little history there from Chris Westling, historian of

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Speaker 1: the game. Let's now move back to going around the

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Speaker 1: World to wrap up the a f C and this show,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with Mark Sessler. Get us going back. Well,

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Speaker 1: just like the Ravens, the Broncos are getting a little

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Speaker 1: extra time this week after that chunky analysis we just

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Speaker 1: went through. You got a first time head coach, You've

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Speaker 1: got a potentially disruptive quarterback battle about to take place

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: all spring into summer. The offensive line last year was

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Speaker 1: the worst among the worst in the league. You did

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: very little to address that outside of one pick. The defense,

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01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: all right, everyone wants to call the defense the greatest

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01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: thing ever. They had the issues down the stretch last year.

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01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: To explain to me how the Broncos bounce back big

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: time in the toughest division in football, Jamal Charles runs

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: for three thous next team, I think you're counting on,

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: in a passing league, the best secondary in football, or

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01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: at least the potential certainly of the best secondary in football.

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, with with Von Miller, with Derek Wolfe, that's

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01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: a huge weapon. Like how good do you have to

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01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: be on offense if their secondary can play to that level,

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01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: You know, you get your defense back where they're stopping

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Speaker 1: the run a little bit. You've got talent, you got

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01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: Manny Sanders, you got the Marriest Thomas. I mean, that's

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: about as good as starting to do. Then you get, well,

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01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: you got last year, which is probably about eight and eight,

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: nine and seven and maybe missed the playoffs. They're a

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: team I think could have been in eleven or eleven

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: win team, and we would talk about them differently right

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: now with just a few little breaks going their way.

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01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't much separating them. I don't think

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Speaker 1: from the Baltimore in Pittsburgh, that sort of group. This

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: team could not run the Bowl and could not stop

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: the run last year. I'm not sure what they've done

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01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: to make me think that they will that they have

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: fixed those problem. Well, they're totally one way or another.

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: They're totally different, you know, no Wade Phillips and totally

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: different offensive system. I don't know if that'll be good

1330
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: or bad. It seems like a challenging first year coaching job.

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving pieces here. If you, I know,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned all the talent they have on offense, but

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01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: if you list offensive personnel of every team in the league,

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01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: the Broncos will not be in the top twenty. When

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01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: you factoring quarterback play an offensive line, they will not

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01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: be in the top twenty. Tight ends, no deep one

1337
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks to take a big step forward. I

1338
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: want to argue with you, but I just wrote down

1339
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: any of them last night and they were not even

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: close to making the list. Yeah, I don't. I think

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, I think Simeon and Lynch both

1342
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: have ceiling. But you got you know, have some upside,

1343
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: but you gotta see it. You don't know who's gonna

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: win that. I think Simeon is. I don't know what

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: his silling is, but he was. I think he impressed

1346
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: in people in this room more than maybe he did

1347
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: outside of this room with some and I think he

1348
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: has enough to keep Paxton Lynch on the bench. Earlier

1349
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: in the year. Not only did Simmon play better than

1350
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: most people think when on the few chances when Lynch played,

1351
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: he was awful. He wasn't ready to play in the NFL,

1352
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: and it was obvious. And their coaching staff has been

1353
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: saying this offseason that he has improved that mentally he's

1354
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: in a different place. I'm gonna need to see that

1355
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: the tide is gonna go to Lynch or anything close

1356
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: to that. I think they want Lynch. I think that's

1357
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: maybe part of the you know, they bring in Mike

1358
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: McCoy a developed lynch over under six and a half

1359
01:09:53,680 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: starts back to lynch over. I think these Angels chargers.

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01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: Most of us in this room, if not all of us,

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 1: see them as a roster with the talent to compete

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: for the division title. Here's a question, what are the

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Speaker 1: odds give me a specific percentage of the Bolts having

1364
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: the A F c's highest scoring offense. Okay, so they

1365
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: gotta beat out the Steelers. I knew Greg would be

1366
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: all about the steeling. Well, you're talking about it to

1367
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: his favorite things, betting in The Chargers also numbers. Well,

1368
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Patriots and Raiders are three, you know, great

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: offenses at the top. May have we're sleeping on the Chargers,

1370
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: who did some work on their offensive line in the

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: draft to go four deep at wide receiver and have

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Speaker 1: one of your favorite running backs in NFL history. I'm

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna give you maybe about eight to one odds on that.

1374
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: The is not I mean, that's not a small number

1375
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: when that's giving them a little credit to get Greg

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Speaker 1: out of the way on that entire side of the board.

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01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch them, and I like

1378
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: to during that little tiny stadium. I'm gonna sneak away

1379
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: and go watch them one Sunday and pretend when i'm

1380
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: I'll pretend I'm ill. I'm sure the fans of San

1381
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: Diego will be very happy for you only having a

1382
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: great time in that tiny stadium. Well, I believe me,

1383
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: who who sides with teams who's you know team got

1384
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: ripped out of the city more than me. I say

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: you don't go to the game. Well, as far as

1386
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't gone and I'm not going to it.

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: It is outrageous how deep that offense is. If you

1388
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: think Philip Rivers had a great draft. By the way,

1389
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: they get Mike Williams in the first round, they get

1390
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: two guards in the second and third round to protect them.

1391
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: No quarterback Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Travis Benjamin. Oh, by

1392
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: the way, Tyrone Williams, who had the most underrated, awesome

1393
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: one thousand yards season last year. I mean he might

1394
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: be their number four receiver, Melvin Gordon, Hunter, Henry who

1395
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: I like a lot, and Antonio Gates. That is seven people.

1396
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean they got a chance bumping up to six

1397
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: to one. I passed yet now yeah, I will go

1398
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: one step beyond Greg can take a higher percentage point

1399
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: five to one. Um, Okay, first, all Keenan all love him.

1400
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: Who knows if he's ever Keenan Allen again, or can

1401
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: stay on the field just like a little era just

1402
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: beating Marcus Peters, but up and down the field for

1403
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: a half last year before he got injured. And I

1404
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: know again I don't want to. I know it's it's

1405
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: fun to kick around Eli Manning in this building or

1406
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: at least this room, but never on Philip Philip Rivers.

1407
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: He had two really great games in the back half

1408
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: of the season. The rest of the season by passer

1409
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: rating sixty one, seventy nine, fifty seven eight seventy seventy five,

1410
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: he did not have a good second half of the season.

1411
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: He is also the same age as Eli Manning, the

1412
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: guy that we are so hung up on how old

1413
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: he is all of a sudden, there's no reason, more

1414
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: like how bad he is. No, No, we talked about

1415
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: his age and Eli man He didn't lose half his

1416
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: offense to injury. I mean, what happened to the Chargers

1417
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: last season injury wise was unbelieved less. He got Bosa,

1418
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: the closest thing we've had to J. J. Watt, Jason

1419
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: Varette future, I'll pro a cornerback. No, but Ingram four

1420
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: to one is Patrick Mahomes the Chiefs. Is Patrick Mahomes

1421
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: going to see meaningful snaps in because I kind of

1422
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: think he is no nor in two thousand eighteen either

1423
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: what this guy isn't ready to play. It's just like

1424
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: Jared Coff Jared Goff was not close to ready to play.

1425
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 1: This guy is more raw, more undisciplined, and more wild

1426
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: in the air raid offense coming out of college than

1427
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was. And that's not what Eric what Andy

1428
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: Reid wants at a quarterback, specifically for a team that

1429
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 1: is ready to contend, ready to win, and has the

1430
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: best winning percentage in the NFL since the middle of

1431
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. Alex Smith is not going to give

1432
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: them a reason to turn to Patrick Mahomes, and Patrick

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01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: Mahomes isn't gonna give him a reason. I'll say what

1434
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: we just said on a NFL Network kit, and this

1435
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: is you. You draft this guy, you trade up for

1436
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: him in the first round. You gotta go back to

1437
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 1: Jake Locker to find a first round NFL quarterback that

1438
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: didn't meaningful snaps in his first season. And I don't

1439
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: think that the plan is to play him. But you've

1440
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: created a totally uncomfortable situation for Alex Smith because if

1441
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: really you are a step away from the super Bowl,

1442
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: you don't invest this year at quarterback, you do it

1443
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: another time, you do it next year, potentially in a

1444
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: great quarterback class. They've done it now Alex Smith is

1445
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: going to deal with it all offseason. And Alex Smith

1446
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: is a kind of quarterback that's going to create in

1447
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: stadium situations that's gonna put pressure on the coaching staff

1448
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: to put one of the more exciting arms out there.

1449
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: Well that they made life difficult on Alex Smith. I

1450
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: think he can handle it about as well as anyone.

1451
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: He's not gonna let that show publicly, but it's gonna

1452
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: be tough on him to know that not only do

1453
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: they try to draft his replacement, but they draft a

1454
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,919
Speaker 1: totally a player, totally opposite of him, totally different quarterback.

1455
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he plays this year though. To answer

1456
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: your question, Dan, I think that's a question for two

1457
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,839
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. And I think that's why they believed

1458
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: there was such a perfect that suation because Mahomes doesn't

1459
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: need some time, but he does have that kind of upside.

1460
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: It did happen to him once before. This is not

1461
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: you know, apples and oranges, but he was playing at

1462
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: an Alex Smith level about five years ago. Colin Kaepernick

1463
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: took over after an injury and he never got his

1464
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: job back. Uh. That was you know, midway through kaepernick

1465
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: second season, right right, So I'm I think, yeah, it

1466
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be crazy to me if he didn't play this year,

1467
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: But the sitting on the bench for two years, I

1468
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: just don't see it happening in the modern day NFL.

1469
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: My homes in college you mentioned in terms of underfight,

1470
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean Brian Baldinger was talking about. He did a

1471
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: lot of their college games, Texas Tech, and you can't

1472
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 1: believe how basic it is, how how just completely different

1473
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: it is than the NFL that he's just going back

1474
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: and kind of just making making it up, like he

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Speaker 1: has no idea how to do progression reading and Andy

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Speaker 1: Reads a perfect coach to get But you're right, it'll

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Speaker 1: take a lot. There's just a lot of red shirt

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in early May in the NFL. None of those

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Speaker 1: teams you mentioned had an established starting quarterback who was

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Speaker 1: winning at a high level. Like, I get what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the plan is that, but but it's

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Speaker 1: not like they have Chad Henny standing in the way

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Speaker 1: they The Oakland Raiders drafted garyon Conley with the first

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Speaker 1: round pick. Uh there, with their first round pick number

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Speaker 1: twenty four overall. In terms of outrage, I'm I'm actually

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Speaker 1: a little surprised that this pick has inspired relatively little

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Speaker 1: outrage and consternation, considering reports have come out since the

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Speaker 1: draft at the investigation of him, and you know his

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Speaker 1: rape allegation is going to be ongoing for a while.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this one of the craziest draft picks, especially considering

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Speaker 1: you have two big time tall, similar cornerbacks in your

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Speaker 1: starting lineup. Isn't this one of the craziest, riskiest draft

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Speaker 1: picks that we've seen in a long time. Okay, does

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Speaker 1: that seem weird? It's very rich to your question, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's very risky. Does that mean we should be outraged? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not out I guess outrages to me, it's not

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Speaker 1: possibly be outraged if you don't have details. Yeah, I

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: think I think that's it's it's just a wait and

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Speaker 1: c situation. Probably for even the most outrage outrage prone

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01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: type people. You've got to wait. Like the investigation has

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Speaker 1: talked about it maybe being completely consensual, that you know

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: that we don't need information, so like this side, but

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: like so we're all open to being outraged at it

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: if if it comes down. I wish I didn't say outrage.

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01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,520
Speaker 1: I guess I'm I just I'm I'm a little confused

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: with just compared to other things that have happened in

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, that they were willing at this time when

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: they're really trying to make a push. And obviously is

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01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: a good player, Josh Norris at rhtor World, he was

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01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: his favorite cornerback in the entire draft. But to take

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01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: a guy that there's a there's a chance that and

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: you know you have no idea what's gonna happen, there's

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01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: no way you actually way. There's been very little just

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Speaker 1: lose your first round pick. That's there's been very little

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01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: reaction to Joe Mixon in Cincinnati. I mean, it's like

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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: maybe people are desensitile is to the fact that NFL

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01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: teams are cutthroat and do things to benefit themselves versus

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: innocent victims. Well put it this way, if some damning

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01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: evidence like reaches the media against Conley, I think it

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: will really start to ratch it up. And it's still

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: just so hazy right now. And I guess I guess

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: my point is like why even take that risk? What

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01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: it's not not about the moral thing that there's no

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01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: way they can know what's going to happen because they're

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They do this type. They're always doing unpredictable things.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're gonna play in Las Vegas in two years.

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Speaker 1: And I would think their internal process they feel comfortable that.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams, like the New York

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01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: Giants aren't gonna make this pick. Pittsburgh Steelers probably are

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01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: gonna make this pick. But the Raiders are crazy enough

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: to try it and and risk what would be a

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01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: pr disaster if this guy turns out to be guilty

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Speaker 1: of what he was accused of. Yikes. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to talk the whole time on him

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01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: at just that that had really struck me because they

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Speaker 1: use their first two picks in the draft in their secondary.

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Speaker 1: What the secondary did struggle? They take us if the

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Speaker 1: in the second round, Like, do you think this defense, now,

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01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: let's say Cony does play. They drafted a couple of guys.

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01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: Is it enough to hang with this offense? Oh my god,

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01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: there's only six seconds left. No, it's not good enough.

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01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: It's not good enough. It's not good enough. No reason

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: to believe it is tough. Division to division. We went

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Speaker 1: around the n f C and forty eight minutes counted up.

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: We did it. I felt. Well. The good thing is

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get now a couple of days off and

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01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,799
Speaker 1: we'll come back and do forty eight minutes of the NFC.

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Speaker 1: That's the next time uh you'll hear from us. And

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: when that exercises through, we will given each of the

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 1: thirty two teams in the NFL three minutes of discussion.

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01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: That is a lot of data analysis, narratives, narratives. Good stuff, guys,

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01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: especially from future lawyer Chris Wesselena. I mean, you're a

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01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: good lawyer. You just happen to lose that case. Good

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01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: lawyers lose cases all the time. There's not a judge

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01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: in this room. What if your face? What if all

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Speaker 1: the brothers got together and had a law firm, Wesley

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01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: and Wesley and Wesley and Wesley and Wesley and Wesley,

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01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: Wesley and Westling. Well for one of the brothers, we

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: would need it. Well you can get that guy. What

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: a great story it would be that would that would

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01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: get the headlines. I'm afraid Nick would get thrown out

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: of court. But then you have six other brothers you

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01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: get give it this way, what Chris Westling a fire

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: individuals brothers like that as well. Over the course of

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01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: an extended criminal case trial, all these guys are gonna

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01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: get found in contempt and booted. But you keep on

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: bringing guys off the bench, and you'll always be down

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01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: to the last Westling brother. But but the way they

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01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: work it, they're smart and savvy enough that they always

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Speaker 1: have that last Westling brother to nail the final arguments.

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Speaker 1: You've been wearing down the opponent big time. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: the last one. Oh no, who's coming in the building.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to be the last one in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: just so I can use the line, no, you're out

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: of Lauren. I would like you guys coming on like

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01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: a little clown car too, and you just keep on

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01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: getting out your little lawyer suits. But we were when

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01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: we were little kids, we would go to Mass like

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01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,560
Speaker 1: a single file with like the oldest the youngest, and

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01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: think used to call us the ducklings, the tallest to

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Speaker 1: the shortest going to Mass. Awesome. All right, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Thursday, uh to talk about the NFC. So

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Speaker 1: thank you everybody for listening. Check out the subreddit. Let's

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: get the subreddit by the way around. The nfl um

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Speaker 1: on subreddit let's get that up to five thousand. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we even like, come up said, let's brainstorm some special

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Speaker 1: for the five thousand member of the subreddit. So if

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Speaker 1: you are um uh, if you enjoy this show, there's

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Speaker 1: really good discussion over there, Greeby running running of things

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Speaker 1: over there. So check out around the NFL on the subreddit.

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Speaker 1: Also of course over at iTunes, leave the five star

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Speaker 1: ratings and reviews, and uh, we will in turn deliver

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01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: something that we refused to give to Matt money Smith,

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: who's done hundreds of hours of free service for this show.

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if you add it up, it's maybe minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's not how I see it. That's a ridiculous way

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01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 1: to look at that. All right, this is Dan Hansis

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Speaker 1: I Love Money, just saying signing out for a Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: The Mailman, The Boss and New Money behind the Glass

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Speaker 1: till Thursday,