WEBVTT - Overcoming Common Financial Mistakes #275

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's and today we're discussing overcoming common financial mistakes. Mean, man,

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<v Speaker 1>there are mistakes that we all make. However, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>few that are more common than others. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about those mistakes, and specifically, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how to bounce back from those mistakes, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, that's like that's the real important part. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing back is huge, getting back up on the horse,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I Mean, there's all sorts of analogies I

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<v Speaker 1>think we could throw. I'm not a gymnast, Mari, right, Yeah, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just there's so many ways. There's so many places

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<v Speaker 1>we can go with this. Um. But but yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>we make a mistake, fixing it and learning from it

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<v Speaker 1>is so crucial to being able to move forward in

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<v Speaker 1>a positive manner. So yeah, we're gonna talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>today because it has just a major impact on how

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<v Speaker 1>we progress in our financial lives. But Matt, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, I wanted to mention a website that

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<v Speaker 1>I recently stumbled upon, and I think, especially since we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in the Christmas shopping season, at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in time that it might be helpful to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. It's called brick seek dot com. Brick seek

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<v Speaker 1>and like you're looking for a brick, yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>brick seek um like yeah, and so it helps you

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<v Speaker 1>find bricks locally to where you are. No, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great website. You know, it's like a brick and mortar essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pointing you towards deals at brick and mortar

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<v Speaker 1>shops and you know where you live there, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty cool because in store deals can actually

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<v Speaker 1>be way bigger than online deals. Sometimes an individual store

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<v Speaker 1>might put something just on a massive clearance, whereas like

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<v Speaker 1>nationally you're online, you're not going to find that same price,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe even a market right like the whole Southeast

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<v Speaker 1>sees one particular item go um at a major discount,

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<v Speaker 1>and this website, brick seek, will identify some of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll they'll post some of the popular items that are

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<v Speaker 1>super cheap in certain retail locations. But then you can

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<v Speaker 1>also search for items and maybe you'll find just a

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<v Speaker 1>much better deal in a local brick and mortar store

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<v Speaker 1>than you would ordering from an online retailer. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like one more place that people can check in

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<v Speaker 1>order to try to find a better price. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't beat those aggregators, right, because we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>time to to go from website to website trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find the best deal. Sometimes you need an aggregator like

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<v Speaker 1>this calling all my local electronics retailers. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do. That's not not how I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>spend my time making associates walk the aisles on prices

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Dude, they don't even do that anymore. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. If you actually try to call up

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<v Speaker 1>a place, very few employees are gonna say, yeah, let

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<v Speaker 1>me go check check the price on that, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>won't do that. And so having I agreement, this is great,

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<v Speaker 1>having the convenience of being able to shop online without

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<v Speaker 1>paying sort of like that additional fee for shopping online

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<v Speaker 1>and not looking for those local deals. I see this

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<v Speaker 1>as as being a great site because man, I love

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<v Speaker 1>shopping online. I do not like shopping in person anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think store closures during the pandemic only kind of

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<v Speaker 1>reinforce It's like, oh, yeah, this is this is how

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<v Speaker 1>things should be for me. Yeah, literally like things showing up.

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<v Speaker 1>The only store I go into anymore, the grocery store. Seriously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way it feels. Specifically, Aldi, have you been

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<v Speaker 1>up to Costco recently? You gotta make sure you have

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<v Speaker 1>your mask though. That's right now you always have to

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<v Speaker 1>wear a mask and costs me. Aldi. You know they

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<v Speaker 1>implement the mask thing too, but I guess it just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like this national announcement like when Costco did it. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Costco a couple of times since the

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<v Speaker 1>mask mandate went into place, and I feel like they've

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<v Speaker 1>run things really really well, the top down communication to

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<v Speaker 1>the employees and then the way the employees are implementing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the social distancing at the checkout and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. They've done just a fantastic job through this.

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<v Speaker 1>The real question is can you buy a box of

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<v Speaker 1>five masks at Costco? Not a five founder but I

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<v Speaker 1>think you get a box of fifty yeah yeah, yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still like ten times more than what you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably buy it Aldi, right, yea, which is like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a small package of five mask It's really cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>And then get out of here exactly, return your card,

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<v Speaker 1>take your quarterback. All right, man, let's go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>introduce our beer for this episode. We were drinking a

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<v Speaker 1>Hydrus double I p A. This is by Two Tides Brewing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is another one that you picked up while you

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<v Speaker 1>were down there with your bride down in Tybee for

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<v Speaker 1>a little anniversary trip. Man, I'm looking forward to sharing

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<v Speaker 1>this one with you on the show, and yeah, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it at the end of the episode too. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's get onto the subject in hand for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're discussing overcoming common financial mistakes. And some money

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes are small and the impact is more like a

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<v Speaker 1>blip on our radar, Right, it's not that big of

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<v Speaker 1>a deal. Other money mistakes can be like an albatross

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<v Speaker 1>and they weighs us down for for years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>But whether our mistake is more of a bump of

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<v Speaker 1>the road or if we've made a mistake that will

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<v Speaker 1>impact us for a long time to come, it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to overcome these mistakes so we can

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<v Speaker 1>move on and start kicking butt with our money again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we're gonna cover some common mistakes that we

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<v Speaker 1>make how we can pivot to handling money well. In

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<v Speaker 1>those circumstances as well as some important behavioral changes we

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<v Speaker 1>all need to make so that our mistakes don't weigh

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<v Speaker 1>us down for too long, creating like a quicksand like effect. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>you always like referring about to quicksand Yeah, and but

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<v Speaker 1>like if we do that, if we let those mistake

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<v Speaker 1>like overwhelm us and keep us down for too long,

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<v Speaker 1>it does kind of make it harder for us to

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<v Speaker 1>move forward. It feels like our our feet are stuck

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<v Speaker 1>um and and so yeah, we have to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how to like get past those things once so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't happen again and too, so that we can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>move forward a plow ahead. Yeah, you know my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>quicksand reference uh Super Mario Brothers too. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the underrated Super Mario Brothers, but the on the original

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<v Speaker 1>and e s uh Super super Mario Brothers too had

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<v Speaker 1>quicksand and that was the one where the levels were

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<v Speaker 1>like vertical as well as horizontal, so you could like

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<v Speaker 1>drop down quicksand drop down to different levels, pull turn

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<v Speaker 1>ups and other vegetables up out of the ground. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Superrio three was my favor, but two was well.

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<v Speaker 1>Three was through his classic because you could fly. But

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<v Speaker 1>two is Yeah, that one was pretty good, so good

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<v Speaker 1>to underrated for sure. Okay, let's let's get back to

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<v Speaker 1>financial mistakes. Though. You know, I think that the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problem here isn't that we make mistakes, right, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this. We all screw up from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>But in fact, I think the real issue is when

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<v Speaker 1>we don't learn from those mistakes. Right. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface, this seems like maybe a pretty straightforward thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we make a mistake, we see the consequence

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<v Speaker 1>is of it, and we learn and then we just

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<v Speaker 1>need to avoid doing it again. Simple recipe, right. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, it's a little trickier than that, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you have to ask yourself, are you

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<v Speaker 1>just addressing the symptom of your mistake or are you

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<v Speaker 1>actually getting to the core of the issue. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to ask the question why are we bad

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<v Speaker 1>with our money? Right? Well, it might give us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of comfort to know that everyone does make

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<v Speaker 1>some occasional money errors, that doesn't get us any closer

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<v Speaker 1>to handling our own personal finances better. So yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get to that. Let's let's address the

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<v Speaker 1>why here. Sure, Yeah, I think I'm gonna think First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it's just a really intimidating topic for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people money in general, and when something's intimidating

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<v Speaker 1>or a little bit scary, we tend to avoid those things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really the biggest reason why so many

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<v Speaker 1>people make money mistakes. Money feels like a big bad boogeyman,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just don't want to go anywhere near it.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, for example, like a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>intimidated by the idea of going to a gym to

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<v Speaker 1>work out, right, all the types of fancy equipment, all

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<v Speaker 1>the super fit folks there who know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll be out hasting judgment on you once

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<v Speaker 1>they see you walk through the door, Like look at

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<v Speaker 1>this tall skin. You get exactly who's like, who's biceps invert?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like it's it's I feel like that is

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<v Speaker 1>something that has kept me from going to the gym before.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like you've got to get fit before

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<v Speaker 1>you going the gym so you can fit in. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's again similar with money, where um, where

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a barrier to entry and we're a little

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out and that definitely leads to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes that we make because we just avoid the subject altogether. Yeah, totally, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, oftentimes I think the reason that it

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<v Speaker 1>can be intimidating is because we're ignorant, right, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not to say someone is a complete idiot, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they just simply lack the knowledge about a specific topic.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Like personally, I'm ignorant of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things out there, Like a lot of times I

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<v Speaker 1>was because I choose to like, there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>don't pertain to me. But once we've identified that this

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<v Speaker 1>is something I need to pay attention to, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to fix it, you know. And so in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym example, like if I knew the proper way

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<v Speaker 1>to say, perform a power clean, you know, even if

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<v Speaker 1>I was just getting started working out, like I would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have the confidence and know that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it the right way that would give me the

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<v Speaker 1>that would encourage me to continue going right. And the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing is true with our money. Most of us

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<v Speaker 1>don't have parents who taught us many of these lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>and so because that we lack the proper know how,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's oftentimes a thing part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>we are so intimidated as well, it's knowledge. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>completely agree. I think the lack of knowledge is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>an important key to this. And and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before, just that almost none of us were taught

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<v Speaker 1>about personal finances growing up in school or at home,

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<v Speaker 1>and that definitely only increases the intimidation and ignorance factors.

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<v Speaker 1>So consistently learning about money so you aren't in the

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<v Speaker 1>dark about how to handle money well is important. And

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<v Speaker 1>know that you can't learn everything overnight. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing people try to do, is like, can I

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<v Speaker 1>imask everything I need to know about money in a

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<v Speaker 1>few days or a week so that I'll be okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes not the questions that we get even it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I really want to fix this, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>the quick solution, um, And there's not always a quick

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<v Speaker 1>solution in just the nature of personal finances to it

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<v Speaker 1>just takes a long time to save up your money.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a long time to kind of straighten out

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<v Speaker 1>your credit, you know, like it's it's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like inherently money takes time, right, and getting rich

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<v Speaker 1>or getting wealthy like building wealth. It it's a slow burn,

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<v Speaker 1>like it takes a lot of time, right, and compounding

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<v Speaker 1>takes years and decades to happen. Um. But you can,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, consistently work to increase your knowledge with podcasts, blogs,

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<v Speaker 1>and books once you realize that you're not informed. The

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge gap I think is rarely an excuse with all

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<v Speaker 1>the resources that are available. I think the intimidation factor

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, the ignorance factor makes sense, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>ways to overcome those and part of that is to

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<v Speaker 1>seek out that knowledge consistently. Um. And there are just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there creating things to try

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<v Speaker 1>to support you in that. Yeah. And unfortunately, we live

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<v Speaker 1>in a culture that we know tends to avoid talking

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<v Speaker 1>about money, and we've seen that the more we avoid

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<v Speaker 1>talking about something, the more it becomes taboo. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's this perpetual cycle of individuals making poor

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<v Speaker 1>money decisions. So it's important for personal finding for that

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<v Speaker 1>to become a more common topic. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for us to start, you know with maybe light

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<v Speaker 1>or casual conversation with our friends, like you could maybe

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<v Speaker 1>ask them, hey, like what did you do with the

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<v Speaker 1>the stimulus check back? There, you know, back in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that we you know, most of us all

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<v Speaker 1>received where you can ask them like hey, like where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where do you bank? That's also something that's

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<v Speaker 1>an easy question because like we all have our money

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and so starting there versus like hey, how much

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<v Speaker 1>like what percentage of your of your paycheck do you

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<v Speaker 1>save every single month? Like you know, like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to warm up to that? Or what's your craft beer budget?

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<v Speaker 1>That's another good question, right, get things started, Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>what is it that you spend your money on? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And then also to we sometimes bank money mistakes when

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<v Speaker 1>we when we have the proper knowledge, we know what

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<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to do, right, So so it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a lack of that, but we allow emotions to get

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<v Speaker 1>the best of us. It's whether it's fear and someone

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<v Speaker 1>ends up selling a bunch of funds in their retirement

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<v Speaker 1>as the markets tanking right and you're just scared and

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<v Speaker 1>that causes you to make a terrible money decision, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's fear of missing out or agreed when you're

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<v Speaker 1>buying single stocks and companies you just don't know very

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<v Speaker 1>much about. Maybe it was a Twitter stock tip that

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<v Speaker 1>you saw. You're just jumping in on the hype. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>Or like somebody on CNBC randomly touted one company that's

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<v Speaker 1>poised to shoot through the roof and you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in um, that is not a good idea, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we're our own worst enemies when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>how we handle our money, and oftentimes that is the

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<v Speaker 1>behavioral side, the emotional side kicking in, even when we

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentally know what we're supposed to do. Yeah, that's right, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though we we have the right knowledge, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it takes us changing our behavior. And actually, later on

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode, we're gonna talk about things that we

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<v Speaker 1>can do, steps that we can take that will prevent

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<v Speaker 1>us from making these mistakes, you know, ways that we

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<v Speaker 1>can alter our behavior. But first me, let's get personal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you want to share with listeners maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>big financial mistake that you've made at some point. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the Maserati I bought just yesterday. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad decision. I thought you were gonna say, Mazda.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I love that car. Almost the Maserati

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<v Speaker 1>dog mad. But yeah, so I say, it's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually haven't made a massive financial mistake. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that to but but here's actually why

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case. Um, my parents actually made quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few financial mistakes when I was a kid, and those

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<v Speaker 1>years when I was eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like just incredibly impressionable and I saw just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of financial misteps that that just had a big impact

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<v Speaker 1>on our family. And so it's not that I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>made um financial mistakes in my life, but they've been

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<v Speaker 1>really small, Like it's nothing that I can be like

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<v Speaker 1>I was in fifty thou dollars of credit card tax

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. Like I actually have never paid

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<v Speaker 1>a diamond interest to the credit card companies. But so

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<v Speaker 1>much of that was essentially going through some of those

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<v Speaker 1>money hardships earlier on UM and learning from somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with money in my life, and so that was

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<v Speaker 1>like really hard. That's actually part of the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so passionate about money education now and part of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason this podcast means so much to get to create

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<v Speaker 1>this together. But if I had to pick the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about myself that that I've struggled with, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say it's the getting something on sale mentality. They just

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<v Speaker 1>lasted for a long time, and I still struggle with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, right. It's like, oh, if that's a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get it even if I don't need it,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I don't need it, and I might not

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<v Speaker 1>even use it sometimes. I mean, I've fallen into that trap.

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<v Speaker 1>And so just that sale mentality has been my biggest

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<v Speaker 1>financial mistake that I've had to grapple with consistently over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. But now that that's out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know yours well. I mean that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe you have improved because prime Day

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<v Speaker 1>came and went, man, and like you said several weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't buy a single thing. So it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>zero you've Yeah, you've gotten better at it. Man. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as my financial mistakes, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>mine were made mostly between the age of sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one or twenty two. I lived really frugally, like

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<v Speaker 1>most of all of our mistakes in life. That's honestly

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<v Speaker 1>probably true. Man, Like the biggest learning period, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like your brain isn't fully developed yet, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>like what you're twenty three, you think you're grown Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, yeah, you have some money. Uh. In my case,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in college to like, I was living really really frugally.

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<v Speaker 1>But however, ever, since I was a teenager up until

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<v Speaker 1>that point, I was really into cars, not like really fancy,

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<v Speaker 1>high end, nice cars, but like I just had a

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<v Speaker 1>certain type of car that I liked, and then after

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, you know, I wanted to switch

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<v Speaker 1>it up, and so I'd sell it and then get

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<v Speaker 1>another one and kind of fix it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really into SUVs. I may have even installed

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<v Speaker 1>like a fancy bumper with a winch on on one

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<v Speaker 1>of my one of my SUVs back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always said a lot of money on vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I could have still had a decent Jeep,

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<v Speaker 1>although that's a whole other story because jeeps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cost so much money to maintain. But even having just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe purchased one of those instead of multiple Jeeps over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, I made some, yeah, some bad mistakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, I was parted with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that money early on. That's I guess a regret that

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<v Speaker 1>I have, Like looking back, I'm like, how so dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, being able to make some

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<v Speaker 1>of those like slightly smaller mistakes back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an important part of growing up, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I had I not made those errors early on, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I would be making larger mistakes today. Maybe I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be saving maybe you know, I wouldn't be doing smarter

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<v Speaker 1>things with my money. But but yeah, hopefully kind of

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<v Speaker 1>through that learning process, I think that certainly helped me

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<v Speaker 1>to to become who I am today. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's just a positive way to view the

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes that we've made. I think sometimes I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to spend it dog. I think sometimes in our culture

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<v Speaker 1>we tend to glorify failure or completely run away from it, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when we look at entrepreneurs who like failed twice,

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<v Speaker 1>but then their third company was just this massive success,

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<v Speaker 1>where Like there could be the sense in which that

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<v Speaker 1>that failure is almost glorified, and it's like, look, the

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<v Speaker 1>failure led me to hear um. And we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to like glorify We're not trying to encourage failure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But but there is a sense too in which we

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<v Speaker 1>we might failure shame um. And so I think we

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<v Speaker 1>want to take a stand somewhere in the middle where

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<v Speaker 1>we say, you know what, we're not like pro failure,

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<v Speaker 1>but those failures will hopefully lead us to to learn

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<v Speaker 1>something and to make a positive change so we can

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<v Speaker 1>move forward. Well, but yeah, we just shared our money mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to kind of some other common ones and

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<v Speaker 1>then how we can go about fixing those mistakes learning

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<v Speaker 1>from them. And we'll get to that right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, we are back from the break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about overcoming common financial mistakes, and so we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about why it is that we make these

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes in the in the last section. Uh, now let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about you know what some of these common financial

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes are. Uh. One of those that we definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to cover is spending more than we bring in every

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<v Speaker 1>single month. Sadly, way too common. Yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>us have have been in that position. Uh, And unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>that leads to an inability to create any financial breathing

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<v Speaker 1>room in our lives. Right then, because of that, there

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<v Speaker 1>is there tends to be a reliance on credit cards,

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<v Speaker 1>which then often leads to debts and which and that

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<v Speaker 1>exacerbates the problem. Right. And the thing is, man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just people who make minimum wage that this impacts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people of all sorts of different income levels

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones who are struggling with this um It

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<v Speaker 1>also makes me think about too, like there are two

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the equation here. If you're not making enough money,

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<v Speaker 1>you can spend less and you can earn more. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that we're focusing on spending less is because

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<v Speaker 1>you can always earn more money. But if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>mastered this principle of spending less than you make, you

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<v Speaker 1>are always going to to raise your spending to meet that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that level that you're earning. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like in this case, spending lesson you make is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an important principle to to have mastered before

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<v Speaker 1>we even start talking about earning more money, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just so foundational to getting ahead with your

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<v Speaker 1>personal finances. Yeah, that's true. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>such a big deal, Matt because when you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any financial breathing room, it increases your stress levels and

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<v Speaker 1>it inhibits your ability to actually save for the future

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<v Speaker 1>and the goals that you have for down the road

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. Like if you're exhausting every bit or

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<v Speaker 1>more of what you're bringing in, you're robbing your future

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<v Speaker 1>self and you're making sure that those goals that you

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<v Speaker 1>have set out for yourself either aren't going to come

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<v Speaker 1>about or it's gonna be a million times more difficult

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna have bigger hurdles to overcome. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>of overspending every month, it's really important to cut your

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<v Speaker 1>spending and to do it quickly. And Matt, now we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about different ways to do that. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>recent episode about seven ways to save more money this week,

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<v Speaker 1>just like about a month ago, and go back and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that, because there were a lot of easy

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<v Speaker 1>ways to cut your spending to to bring money back

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<v Speaker 1>into your life. Um, but they're they're just so many

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<v Speaker 1>other ways you can go about it too. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're just in a really bad shape, then you

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get help. And uh, we've mentioned these

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<v Speaker 1>websites before, but NFCC dot org or money management dot

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<v Speaker 1>org or two great websites to go to where you

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<v Speaker 1>can talk to somebody for free and not for profit

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<v Speaker 1>debt counselor if you're in a really bad spot and

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing this for way too long, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>direction that that Matt and I would encourage you to

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<v Speaker 1>go in. Yeah, let's talk about becoming a payment buyer. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the ways that we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>easily fall into this trap of spending more than we make.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, only focusing on the payments is a symptom

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<v Speaker 1>of just getting way too comfortable with that. We we think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can afford a six dred dollar a month car payment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, without thinking about the overall cost of that car,

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<v Speaker 1>and we we stretched the payments out for seven years

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<v Speaker 1>instead of three or four, which which would just make

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<v Speaker 1>so much more sense financially in our lives because we

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<v Speaker 1>become payment buyers. Yeah. And unfortunately too, it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just on big things like a car. Um Like, folks

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<v Speaker 1>are getting payment plans for anything from cloths to to

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<v Speaker 1>donal work to a new h VAC. Recently saw that

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft they are are kind of doing this with the

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<v Speaker 1>new Xbox um. Instead of having to pay like five

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<v Speaker 1>bucks up front, they're having folks sign up for this

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<v Speaker 1>payment program that's stretched out over twenty four months over

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<v Speaker 1>two years. Uh, and this isn't good, you know. They

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing this obviously to soften the blow of this

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<v Speaker 1>massive expense in a lot of individuals lives. The real

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<v Speaker 1>problem here isn't that it's a monthly payment. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they can't get out of it. They're locked

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<v Speaker 1>into it. Like if you like read the fine print,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a no interest loan and it's not something you

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<v Speaker 1>can get out of. Like that's the real problem, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't mind having being signed up for subscriptions,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've got software that I'm a you know, subscriber

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<v Speaker 1>to where you know, every month there's like a tin

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks that, you know that comes out of my account.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of annoying, but I get it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact is I could pull the plug on that at

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<v Speaker 1>any point. It's when you're locked in like this and

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't thought about those long term ramifications, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I think it can really bite you in the butt. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned that that these companies do it to

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<v Speaker 1>try to help soften the blow, and and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we do it too, Like we we want to soften

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<v Speaker 1>the blow to our budget, and we think that it

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<v Speaker 1>makes the most sense to pay something out over time,

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.680
<v Speaker 1>but oftentimes that means you know, paying interest. Um, that

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't otherwise have to pay. Oftentimes it means buying

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<v Speaker 1>something that we can't actually afford if we have to

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<v Speaker 1>stretch out the payments, right, So, if you can't afford

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that piece of clothing on whatever website offering to allow

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you to stretch the payments over six months or a year,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't afford to buy it now, straight up,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be buying it. Um. Those are the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of decisions that we we have to make. Becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>payment buyer is just far too common in our society,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that we should probably all start to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a whole lot more. It's it's gotten too easy

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<v Speaker 1>to borrow money for really small items that we should

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<v Speaker 1>just be paying for all at once. Yeah. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every single one of those additional payments is just

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<v Speaker 1>like one more string in this sort of like not

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<v Speaker 1>a tangled mess that becomes your finances exactly, yeah, completely

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>all R. Let's talk about another common financial mistake in

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<v Speaker 1>it's neglecting your credit score. There's a segment matt of

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<v Speaker 1>Personal finance and that think that credit scores are meaningless

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<v Speaker 1>you know who you are, But but that ain't true, right, Uh?

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 1>They influence so many things in our lives. Your credit

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<v Speaker 1>score actually is important to stay on top of, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so like staying on top of it, working to

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<v Speaker 1>raise your score will ensure that you qualify for lower rates,

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<v Speaker 1>it will help you get lower insurance premiums, and it

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<v Speaker 1>could even be the deciding factor in getting a new job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some jobs look at your credit score, um

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what sector you're working in and if there

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<v Speaker 1>are security clearances involved. Right. We kind of broke that

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<v Speaker 1>down in episode ten in episode one, Third Team, we

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>talked about rebuilding a rough credit score. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a facet of your personal finances where if you

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<v Speaker 1>play dumb or you choose not to think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're costing yourself a lot of money and a lot

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>of potential headache. Credit scores are important, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>can't neglect it. Yeah, And at the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also important to point all that credit scores are, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, all be all. You know. I think sometimes

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.880
<v Speaker 1>folks can put maybe too much emphasis on the credit score,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're they're almost even willing to do kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dumb things just to get their score a little bit higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect eight fifty and and what you're at that level,

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<v Speaker 1>it does not matter. But obviously if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>score that's hurting, you want to make sure you're taking

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<v Speaker 1>proper steps to to heal that credit score. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I think it's it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that I think money nerds can kind of fixate

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<v Speaker 1>on where they're just like, I gotta get the perfect score.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a sweet spot, just like everything right exactly, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta gotta find that balance. One other common financial money

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<v Speaker 1>mistake that folks make is just not paying yourself first,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, like putting off investing. Basically maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>cut yourself saying this where you say, like, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it someday, you know, like that's a common refrain,

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 1>or well I could only invest a little bit, so

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll wait to until I have a little bit more.

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 1>That might be the mindset, that might be the angle

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<v Speaker 1>that you're taking. But every single dollar that you begin

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>investing now is going to sort of like take on

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<v Speaker 1>this life of its own, you know, beginning the incredible process,

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:53.120
<v Speaker 1>this beautiful process of compounding your wealth over time. Even

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<v Speaker 1>if you can only invest you know, five, ten or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks a month, please get started uh. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can even look to just apps to help you as well,

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 1>different little tactics that will give you this psychological boost.

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>You can look to the apps like Acorn. They can

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<v Speaker 1>help you to to trick yourself into saving more if

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for ways to kind of get some traction,

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>get the ball moving forward. Yeah, and I think, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years, Matt, this excuse of like, well, I

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have very much to invest, it's kind of gone

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<v Speaker 1>by the wayside, especially as the major low cost investment

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>platforms have instituted really small minimums or no minimums at

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<v Speaker 1>all to begin the process. Right, So you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a couple thousand dollars to get started. You

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>really can get started with five dollars. So great, man, Like,

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we are seriously living in like the golden era of

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<v Speaker 1>the democratization of personal finance. Like the knowledge is there,

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the access is there. You don't have to know a

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.360
<v Speaker 1>guy like you can just download the app and get

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>started it. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah for sure. So, yeah,

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>that is a big money mistake, and there are ways

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome that mistake. Right. So those are just a

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 1>few of the common ones who wanted to highlight. But

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the overcoming part of it, Matt, how

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>do we overcome money mistakes in general? Let's get to

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>some strategies for how we identify and they start fixing

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>those mistakes to to make progress. We'll get to that

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<v Speaker 1>right after this break. Alright, Joel, we are back for

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the Brakeman. We're talking about financial mistakes. We've talked about

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the specific ones that we see a good bit,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about how to kind of move forward after,

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, making a money screw up. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that you need to do is to

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<v Speaker 1>admit your mistake. Right. This is tougher than it sounds.

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Most of us don't like to admit our failures. When

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<v Speaker 1>we mess up, we either pretend that they, you know,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, or we try to minimize them. Uh So,

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking earlier, right, But by admitting your mistake

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>and facing it straight on, that's just so crucial to

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>overcoming and actually making some forward progress. Yeah, you and

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I are no different than any other human in that regard. Right.

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard for me to fest up to

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>failures or to admit a mista ache, and and to me,

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it sounds simple, but in reality, it's fighting

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>every instinct in our body to admit that we were wrong. Um,

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>And so it's funny. I was actually on a podcast recently,

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>a parenting podcast who which one of my friends hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>and he asked me a piece of advice about how

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you relate to kids, just like the last question they

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>ask every guest, And my piece of advice was to

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<v Speaker 1>apologize to your kids. I think there's something so powerful

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>about admitting a mistake, and especially admitting a mistake to

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<v Speaker 1>to your children. It creates a sense of trust and

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<v Speaker 1>it creates a sense of humility in the parent at

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the same time, like I don't always get it right,

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's just like I think it's such an important

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>dynamic in parenting, but also when it comes to money. Yeah,

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>that's so true, man. I think, you know, apologizing like

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that and admitting mistakes, it can be difficult to do

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>when like your pride is on the line. But I

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like as I've gotten older, and it's in particular

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>when you have kids, like I don't care about my

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>pride nearly as much as as I used to. It's

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>gone out the window. Yeah, Like I don't have time

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>for pride. Let's just correct the mistakes, move forward. Let's

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>make sure we're taking the right steps. Let's make sure

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>we're being caring. Let's make sure we're doing the right

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>thing with their money. Right. And so when you're changing

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like poopy diapers and you're getting like spaghetti, you know,

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>cleaning spaghetti stains off the walls and stuff like that, Like, yeah,

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>your your expectations for a lot of things go down,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So we're talking about admitting your mistake, Like

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the context here. We're talking about how to kind

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of broadly overcome any mistake out there. So that's the

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>first thing. Admit your mistake. Next, let's talk about minimizing

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>the damage. Right, Can you quickly turn the tables and

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>go in a different direction after you've made a mistake.

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Some of these errors are going to be more easily

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<v Speaker 1>remedied than others. For instance, maybe you haven't been investing right,

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's just been kind of on the back burner. Well,

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>that's something you can get up to speed, uh, and

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and kind of resume that pretty quickly and pretty easily.

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, let's say you have a mortgage

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that's too costly for your budget, Like that's gonna be

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more difficult, but even still, there are

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>ways to minimize that, right. Uh, it just might take longer.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>You could rent out a room, maybe you can even

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>sell your home to downsize, or you can kind of

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>rent that house out. There are ways that you can

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>correct these wrongs, ways that you can of mine the damage.

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It could be a quick fix or it might be

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>something that takes you know, months or even years. Yeah,

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and Matt, we were just talking about pride. Sometimes to

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<v Speaker 1>minimize the damage, it means doing something that that brings

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a little humility into your life, and it does mean

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>letting go of some of your pride because maybe you

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to rent out a room in your house

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>when your family lives there. It's a little embarrassing. It

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>might be embarrassing and the kids might be like, huh,

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>who's living down in the basement now, But it's one

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of those things where it's your new uncle, Tony. That's

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>one of those things to write the financial ship to

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>overcome the mistake, you might have to do something that

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>is going to eat into your pride in order to

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>get your finances back on the right track. So, yeah,

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>just one of those things right, to minimize the damage

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is super important. Um. And on that note, Matt, the

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>sunk cost fallacy is an important thing to kind of

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>mention here. I think there's so many ways in which

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>we could easily see how the sunk cost fallacy impacts us,

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but often in the moment it's hard to recognize. Like,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>like how we keep reading uh, really crummy book because

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>we feel like we're pot committed. I'm like, fifty pages in,

0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what happens, even though it's a

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>boring read. But we do the same thing with financial decisions. Well,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to keep that car because I

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have a payment for the next three years. No, you

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have to do that, right, even if you're gonna

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>lose money on the transaction or you're a little upside down,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you gotta bring some money to the table to get

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>rid of that car, it still makes sense to get

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>out from under it in order to avoid losing even

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>more money in the future. So yeah, I think when

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about minimizing the damage, we have to overcome

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the stunt cost fallacy at the same time. And once

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you've minimized the damage, once you stop that bleeding. We

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 1>can begin to move forward, and an important part of

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>moving forward is to not make that mistake again. Right.

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's part of the healing process, is

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to not reopen that wound. Is the tourniquet. Uh, it's

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>important to you know, to remember the pain of a

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>previous money mistake, but then to implement changes that will

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>help you to avoid making that same mistake again. So

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>let's continue with that new car example that you just said.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not a terrible decision for everybody right to get

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a new car. But if you did purchase a new

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>vehicle and you have a problem affording the payments, or

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe you realize that it's not worth the money, well,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>next time, stick to a car that's gonna be more

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>affordable that you can buy with cash. However, if you

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>don't learn from your mistake and you do the same

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>thing again, basically you're kind of just digging yourself into

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the same hole again. It's clear that you haven't learned

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:18.959
<v Speaker 1>from that mistake and that's not the position you want

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to find yourself in. Yeah, that that happens to a

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of people mat where they earn a car for

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple years and they're like I don't really like

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>this one. I want another one. And they trade in

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that car, they roll in the old loan into a

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>new one. They oh, way more than the new car

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>is worth by far now because they've essentially a double

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>down on the mistake. And it sounds like me in

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>college minus the payments. I never did it with payments,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>thank goodness. But but yeah, so Matt, when we say

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>stop making the mistake, I feel like it's often easier

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>said than none. And I think stating it that way

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to someone, it's probably not a really helpful thing to

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>say just stop doing It's just stop doing it. Man's

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>putting an idiot. But we're trying to provide, Like within

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that phrase, I think there's a whole lot we can unpack, right, Yeah, Well,

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>so earlier we talked about our behavior, like even though

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>we might know the right thing to do, like we

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>have knowledge, right, Like that's the solution to not knowing,

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Like if you don't know how to do something, you

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>get knowledge, then you know how to do something. But

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>then additionally, behavior, like that's the other aspect of it

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that we need to make sure that we're staying on

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>top of. Because even though we know the right thing

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to do. That doesn't always mean that we are going

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to actually do the right thing right right. Yeah, So

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about some of those positive behavioral steps

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>so we can take, and one of them is getting

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>some accountability, like a personal finance partner for life. It's

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>just really helpful to have someone to talk with about

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>earning money, saving and investing, and definitely someone to talk

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>about before you make a major purchase in your life

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or have a major expense, someone to bounce things off of.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Whether that's your partner, spouse, best friend, um, uncle, aunt, like,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, but find somebody who knows a little

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>bit more than you. It can kind of help you

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>be thoughtful about your money. I think it's such an

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>underrated thing right in the money space, is to have

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>someone that you can talk to and have frank conversations

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>about the things that you're going through. Yeah, I mean

0:30:58.160 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I would even counter because you said, like, look to

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody who maybe knows a little bit more than you

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>or might be like kind of further down that path.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>But even just talking to appear like somebody who isn't you,

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>like somehow like what we're trying to do here is

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>get you out of your own head because so often

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so easy for us man to stay like siloed

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and isolated within our own worlds, where people have no

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>idea what's going on with our money. We can make purchases,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>they show up disguise in these brown cardboard boxes, so

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows what we're getting and what we're bringing into

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>our lives and we're spending all of this money. But

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>just opening yourself up to being able to talk about

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>these things with somebody else is so important. And you know,

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>we talked about reducing the amount of taboo around personal

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>finance by just striking up a conversation with a friend.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>But that's I mean, that's the first step in getting

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a personal finance partner, right. You want to make sure

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you're able to have a good conversation with somebody, and

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>if that's somebody who you can then kind of take

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that conversation further. Who doesn't run away screaming because they

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>started talking about money? That I mean, that's essentially an

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>accountability partner. Uh. And I know Joel like for you

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and I like you. We have found our relationships so

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>incredibly help full in this way. Basically how the podcast started,

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, we would kick around these you know, personal

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>finance ideas, are investing in real estate back and like

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>that was essentially kind of how it started. But that's

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>just so helpful for us to have somebody to to

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of be like, hey, what do you think about this,

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>or like, I'm thinking about doing this. Uh, It's so

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>incredibly helpful. Obviously, in both of our cases, we both

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>have wives, and so like, our spouses are such an

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>important part of our lives obviously, but they should be

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a big part of everybody's personal finances as well. Like,

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I think when individuals kind of have their own money

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>where that's a topic of conversation that never ever comes up,

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's not super healthy. I think it's okay

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to have your own money where you have like you know,

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it's earmarked for you and you can spend it however

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you however you want. That's you know, that's fine. That's

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>not what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about the

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>conversation of your money together. I think it's so important

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that if you have a partner that

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you're committed to, that that's something that you are talking about. Yeah,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's okay when one partner kind of

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>shares the burden of most of the money load. We

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>all divvy up chores in different ways in our house, right,

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>But but I think it does need to be probably

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>at least along the lines of like an eight twenty

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>where where the partner who's less involved needs to be

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>involved to a certain degree. Right, Because if you're completely

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>checked out of the conversation, um, I just don't think

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>it's good overall for for the health of your relationship

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and the health of your finances. Yeah, it doesn't put

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you as an individual in a great position down the

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>road or or anything you know, unfortunate or weird to

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>come up, Yeah, for sure. And that one other really

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>important tool to help us stop making the mistakes is

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to increase the level of automation in our personal financial lives.

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And we all have moments of clarity when we're more

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>likely to make the right decision, and during those rational moments,

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that's when we should be setting up the rules that

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>dictate where our money goes. That way, in times of forgetfulness,

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>when our willpower might not be as strong like we're

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>we're still set up to do the right thing. And

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>whether that's automatically paying your credit card in full every

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>single month so you don't forget um to pay that bill,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>or automatically increasing your four one K contribution every single year.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Setting things up once and then taking them off of

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>your months to do list is so key to avoiding

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>potential mistakes in the future. Right, So yeah, I think

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>having that personal finance accountability partner and then increasing the

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>level of automation in your life there's just two really

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>really robust methods for stopping making some of the mistakes

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>that we commonly make and that might pop up again

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>and again. Totally, Yeah, dude, I think there are some

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>folks who might kind of discount automation a little bit

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>because they're like, oh, that's not you're not really like

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>doing the hard work of like making sure you're you're

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>staying disciplined and doing the right thing. But obviously we

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>don't feel that way. We feel that automation is such

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>an important tool. Well, money shouldn't be like boot camp, man,

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, like at times it might need to be,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>but but for the most part, like money is fairly

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>easy once you know the rules and you can automate

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>some things. And here's why it's an eternal bootcamp you're

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna fet your life exactly. Uh. And here's the thing too.

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Once you set up these, you know, methods of automation,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>what I find really interesting is the fact that this

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is happening over and over. I think it begins to

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>change how you view things. And so even though maybe once,

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like you said, Jill, like in a moment of clarity,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you thought through, this is how this is where I

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>want my money to go, this is how I want

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to invest it, or this is how I want to

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure I stay on top of my credit card. Well,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>even immediately following that, even if like you don't really

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>care about that, or like maybe you're even kind of

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>like annoyed at yourself for having done that because you

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>want to do something else with your money. Over time,

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>as those payments are made or or as those deposits

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>are are automatically deposited into your retirement account, I feel

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that that becomes a part of who you are. Your

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>identity becomes sort of attached to these things because you

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>are doing it, like these are things that you've set

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in motion. Those actions and those behaviors, even though they're automated,

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we still sort of absorb those and they

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>become a part of who we are. So I had

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>to say, I don't feel that automation is like a

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>cheat code or any sort of shortcut, because I feel

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that those repeated actions, that behavior happening on a regular

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>basis like that it shapes who we become. I think

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Matt, and I think just like habits have

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 1>a big impact on our lives, right, forming those good

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>habits just ensure that we're going to do the right

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>thing consistently. But if we have to force ourselves continually

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to try to do the right thing, it's so much harder.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>So so let's for the habit. Let's start the automation process,

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>because it's just gonna make it easier on us. Man,

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>We're humans prone to mistakes, and automation is just gonna

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>help us prevent some of them. And I think the

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>last thing really to talk about here when while we're

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>discussing overcoming financial mistakes is to let it go. Sometimes

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>we have to let it roll off our back, you know,

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>like water off a duck's back. ELS's style, Matt, can

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you sing that let it go? My daughter is definitely

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>could and I can't see, but not on the podcast,

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.879
<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, we've we've definitely you've sang a couple

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 1>of times on the podcast before. But it's true, that's

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to hear that one. Let's let's make

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it a rare thing. The range is too high. You

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>know that's too high. But I think, um, letting it go.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Not defining yourselves, like you were talking about, the more

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>we automate things, the more we take the right moves,

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the more we define ourselves positively. Not defining ourselves by

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the mistakes that we've made is crucial to So whether

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>it was a lack of knowledge, like if you've just

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>known better, you might not have made the poor decision, well,

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>don't let it get you down for long. Not letting

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>those mistakes live in your mind and kind of haunt

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you is key to moving in a more positive direction.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Beating yourself up really accomplishes nothing, right. That's what we

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about some of these other methods for overcoming mistakes,

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's the method that I think we're prone to.

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just like replaying the scenario over and over in

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>our minds and giving ourselves grief over the mistake that

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>we've made. Um And ultimately that's not going to have

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>any positive effects preventing you from future mistakes. So let

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it go, be done with it. Yeah. Again, this makes

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>me think of Burnet Brown. I've mentioned her on the

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>show before, but her book Daring Greatly, she talks about

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the difference between shame and guilt. Right. Shame is when

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you say that like I am a bad person, But

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>then guilt is realizing that like, yeah, I made a mistake,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I did a bad thing, But how can I move forward? Uh?

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>And she just talks about how guilt is so much

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>better than shames. So we're saying, don't shame yourself. However,

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>do accept the fact and fest up to the fact

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that you're guilty. You know, if you have made a mistake,

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's okay to remind yourself of that pain, uh,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, to help you to avoid that again in

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the future, but look forward, like how can you take

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what you've learned? Uh, and to ensure that this isn't

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 1>a mistake that you'll make again. Yeah for sure, Matt.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, Hey, let's move on to the beer that

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>we had on that to the beer. Let's do it.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>This one was called hydrus a double I p A

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>by two tides brewing out of Savannah. What were your

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this one? Man, Dude, this is another fantastic

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>beer from a beach brewery. Like I teased about on

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 1>the last episode. They might take exception to you calling

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>him a beach brewer because Savannah is not a beach

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>town like is but but not Savannah. Yeah, it's a

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>really cool place. I feel the historic film they filmed

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>parts of forest come there, dude, they feel they filmed

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>everything there. Now because of the Georgia tax credits, you're

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>right for the movie industry. But dude, this is a

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>fantastic New England style I p A. This is a

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>double dry hop double I p A. This is simply

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>what that means is it's just a little bit bigger

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and flavors. It had a lot more hot punch to

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it had those nice, delicious bitter notes while at the

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>same time being balanced with a juicy U I p

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 1>A Like this. Man, I really enjoyed this one. And

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a single that you and I are actually sharing.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you and I we have our own beer, but

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>then sometimes we will share a beer. Just it just

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>depends on how it, you know, depends on what you

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.919
<v Speaker 1>bring back. Basically, eight ounces each on this one. Yeah,

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 1>so this is a tall boy that you and I split,

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>so we we both only got eight ounces. I could

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>totally have gone for a full sixteen ounces of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Just note note for next time. Okay, alright, I will

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<v Speaker 1>know this. Yeah, this was really good. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right. It did really balance the bitter and

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<v Speaker 1>the suite, which I p A is like a really

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<v Speaker 1>good I PA can have both notes going on simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>and I can give you the best of both worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I just I really appreciated that um

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<v Speaker 1>packed with a ton of hot flavor. I'm I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been massively impressed with everything I had from

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<v Speaker 1>Two Tides. This was great. Yeah, I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>checking them out because, like I mentioned before, my brother

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<v Speaker 1>in law is moving down there, and so I'm every

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<v Speaker 1>single time we're we go down there, I'm definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make sure to to swing by there. And I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for I bring this one back for us. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>happy to do it, man, Alright, Mat, that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>Best Friends Out, Best Friends Out,