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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Lucinda Williams.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just playing long Weezy. I'm just playing lone Weezy.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nora Jones. And with me is Sarah Oda.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: You're always with me.

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Speaker 1: Our guest today. Oh boy, oh boy.

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Speaker 4: We have the incredible legendary singer, songwriter and guitar player

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Speaker 4: Lucinda Williams. Her first album came out in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 4: nine called Ramblin on My Mind and consisted of country

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Speaker 4: and blues covers, but she followed that up shortly after

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Speaker 4: with her own music on an album called Happy Woman Blues,

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Speaker 4: and now fifteen albums later, she's still singing her heart

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Speaker 4: out and writing these beautiful stories put to music is

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Speaker 4: how I like to think of it.

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Speaker 1: Is one of my idols, She's many of our idols.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I am personally a big, big fan, and I

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Speaker 4: feel like her songs have sort of woven their way

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Speaker 4: through different chapters of my life and when I hear

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Speaker 4: a song, it just takes me right back to a

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Speaker 4: moment in time, and like her music has the power.

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Speaker 6: To do that.

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Speaker 1: She's incredible, She's on tour off and on. So we

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Speaker 1: got to catch her when she was in New York

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Speaker 1: playing at the Beacon Theater, and she's super generous with

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Speaker 1: us with her time and her stories, and I really

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Speaker 1: loved hanging with her. This is the first time I've

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Speaker 1: really got to sit down and hang with her and

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Speaker 1: play music, even though I've met her many many times

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Speaker 1: over the years, so this was a very special time

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Speaker 1: to spend with her. The first time I met her

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Speaker 1: was at a Grand Parsons tribute in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two or three, maybe maybe four, I'm not sure. But

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Speaker 1: we have a great picture of the three of us

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Speaker 1: with Keith Richards and he has no shirt on. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty great. But that was the first time I met her,

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Speaker 1: and I just ever since, I've been just a huge

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Speaker 1: mega fan. I've been to many of her shows and

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Speaker 1: just stood in the back crying, you know, because her

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Speaker 1: music really evokes a lot of emotion.

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Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, she's a very moving performer. We also

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Speaker 4: want to mention that her new album, World's Gone Wrong

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Speaker 4: comes out on January twenty third, twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 4: you can check out her new single by the same title,

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Speaker 4: which is out now.

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Speaker 1: Joining us also in this episode on guitar is Travis Stevens,

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Speaker 1: so you'll hear another voice chime in here and there.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this episode. It was my dream

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Speaker 1: to play and hang out with Luscin to Williams, I'm.

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Speaker 7: So excited, excited because you play piano.

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Speaker 8: That's just such a great instrument.

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Speaker 1: I read your book, so I know your connection with

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Speaker 1: your mother and the piano. I love that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting to hear you talk about that

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Speaker 1: because you said she had a complicated relationship with the piano,

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Speaker 1: so you always had pianos coming and going.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure what that was about, but just I

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Speaker 7: don't know. I guess she felt this pressure from some

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Speaker 7: where in her mind from when.

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Speaker 8: She was younger.

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Speaker 7: I guess maybe that she didn't make something more of

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Speaker 7: herself with it or something. You know, she never really

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Speaker 7: talked about it openly. She was just kind of get

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Speaker 7: in a certain mood about it. And you know, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think I said in the book it became kind

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Speaker 8: Yeah that's now, I said, you read the book.

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Speaker 1: I loved it, thank you. Yeah, it was really it

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Speaker 1: was really special, you know, I didn't know that you

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Speaker 1: had written a book, and Alinda Cigara from Hoay for

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Speaker 1: the riff Raff told me about it, and I was

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Speaker 1: so excited. The book is amazing. Was it hard to

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Speaker 7: It's it takes a lot of times, That's the thing.

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Speaker 8: I didn't realize it was going to take be so

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 8: Now that I've done it, I guess I guess I

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Speaker 8: You know, they all they all talk about maybe a

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, like, wow.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's such a different thing from making writing songs

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Speaker 8: You know, it's just kind of a different part of

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Speaker 7: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's cool though, because I like the way you

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Speaker 1: Have you explained where the songs come from as much

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Speaker 7: No, I try to talk about it as much as

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Speaker 7: I can, Okay, except for their super personal stuff like

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Speaker 1: Something, you know, like now that's in the book.

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Speaker 8: That's in the book.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, But like now the shows I'm doing, that's kind

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Speaker 7: of what we're doing, is I'm telling sort of taking

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Speaker 7: stories from the book and talking a little bit about that,

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Speaker 7: you know, and then playing a song I tell a

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Speaker 7: and then I'll sing a song that's connected with it.

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Speaker 8: Oh wow, that's what the shows are right now.

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Speaker 1: Great. So that's great, And people.

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Speaker 7: Seem to really like it. They love hearing the stories

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Speaker 1: They really do, I know, Yeah, yeah, they love that.

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Speaker 1: I've always been shy about that. But when I was

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Speaker 1: listening to you explain them on the book, it was

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Speaker 1: so nice and I felt even more close to the song,

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Speaker 1: even a song that I like. Some of these songs

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Speaker 1: I've been close to for many years already because I

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Speaker 1: love your music. Yeah, Like you talked about something what

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Speaker 8: I can't only sitting here doing that.

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Speaker 6: It's fine.

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Speaker 8: You're so revered and everybody loves you, you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're like my idol.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I'm I'm so thrill that you were

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Speaker 1: cool if we could try let's try something about what happens.

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Speaker 12: Okay, you want to try that? Okay, and if you

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Speaker 7: I know. I was telling Travis, I said, do we

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Speaker 7: just it. I don't remember what the keys are.

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Speaker 8: It was either G or A.

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Speaker 8: Recently didn't having to do that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think it's cool. I like what happens to my

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Speaker 7: Joni Mitchell, you know that when she A lot of

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Speaker 8: I know, it's like she used to or something.

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Speaker 13: like two different singers. Yeah, and Emmylue Heroes she went

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Speaker 13: to a similar thing. I think, like that that album

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Speaker 1: I love that album me too.

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Speaker 7: Because it brought I like that album the best of

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Speaker 7: all her albums. I think, because she got this smoky

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Speaker 7: I had singing for like six months and just vocal

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Speaker 7: The only thing to do is just vocal rest.

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Speaker 6: And I had to do that.

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Speaker 7: And eventually they went down so I didn't have to

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Speaker 8: So now I'm like, that's why.

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Speaker 7: Now I do my vocal exercises and do all this

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Speaker 7: sleep with the humid a fire and oh wow.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's go. I warm up now before I sing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't when I was really young. But it's just

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Speaker 1: it feels better. Yeah, like I have more control.

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Speaker 8: God, that sounds so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: All this room it's nice. This is nice.

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Speaker 8: Just feels so good that it's really nice. At the

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Speaker 8: risk of sounding woo woo, like all hippie woo woo.

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Speaker 7: I say that to my audience now sentimes when I'm

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Speaker 8: Something, I go at the room was sounding whoo and

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Speaker 8: Oh no, this isn't your I keep taking because it

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Speaker 1: I made, I think my first and second record. I

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Speaker 9: I might not stay, but at least I would have

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Speaker 6: Does this make sense?

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Speaker 14: Does it matter anyway?

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Speaker 6: Is it coincidence.

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Speaker 5: Or was it meant to be?

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Speaker 14: Because there's something.

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Speaker 15: About what happens when we talk, something about what happens

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Speaker 6: Conversation with you was like a trull. It wasn't no

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Speaker 3: And there's something about what happens when we talk, something

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Speaker 6: Talk.

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Speaker 16: Well, I can't steal round.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm going back south.

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Speaker 14: But all regret now is I never kissed your mind.

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Speaker 3: Because there's something about what happens when we talk, something

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Speaker 16: About what happens.

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Speaker 10: We wow.

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Speaker 8: I love the way you play, just beautiful, Thank you.

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Speaker 8: I love the way you sink almost kind of like

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Speaker 6: Or the keys you hit.

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Speaker 8: I could hear those notes on the guitar.

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Speaker 8: You know, do you ride on piano or I do

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Speaker 1: But when I started writing, I wrote on guitar because

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, wow, that's interesting because I feel like now

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Speaker 8: My songwriting goes. And yeah, like it would take me

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Speaker 1: That's what I find. Yeah, different instruments will take you

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Speaker 8: I did want to.

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Speaker 7: When I was a kid, my parents took me to

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Speaker 8: Get over that. You were saying he's did some jazz

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of started out more doing jazz.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, see that I can tell you know, that's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you grow up listening to a lot of jazz?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And it really helps when I'm playing with other

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Speaker 7: of that jazz thing, you know, Yeah, it really makes

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Speaker 1: I love it. Wow, this is so fun. Thanks for playing.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad. Yeah, it's nice.

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Speaker 6: Just tell me when you need me to.

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Speaker 17: Totally you know picking she has she's I was trying

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Speaker 8: I know of her picking patterns.

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Speaker 8: Of right, I have a you know what I learned

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you do have a kid, you know, And it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well it's that magic part of music that

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Speaker 8: You know, you have to feel.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but see you go right there because I noticed,

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Speaker 8: I love it, the soul thing it is.

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Speaker 7: It's hard just to try to verbalize music, well, that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why I enjoyed listening to the book, because

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Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I always think whenever people are

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Speaker 1: I guess, you know, it makes more sense. I also

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Speaker 1: really love the song bust to Baton Rouge, which you

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Speaker 1: talk about in your book too.

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Speaker 8: I've really been enjoying doing that song lately. We've been

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think people just love it too.

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Speaker 7: Probably, Yeah, I think they do too, because when I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got that emotion. It's interesting because again, I

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Speaker 1: So it was nice to hear you talk about, you know,

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Speaker 5: Me in a way.

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Speaker 7: You're you identified with a lot of it because if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not me, but more through her. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that about your background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I grew up in Texas mostly Okay. Yeah, but

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and we're all from kind of not too far

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Travis is from West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he'll Billy.

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Speaker 8: You're from West Virginia. I'm proud of it.

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Speaker 6: I am proud of it.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I love that.

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Speaker 9: It's a beautiful place to be from.

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Speaker 1: Do you live there, still live in Nashville? Where are

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Speaker 18: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Nice?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a little scene there that's cool. You know,

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Speaker 10: Things.

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Speaker 8: It's really easy to live there. It's things.

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Speaker 7: They're so much closer together because we moved there from

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Speaker 7: I was just ready for a little bit smaller city.

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Speaker 1: And it's a small big town, right, that's kind of exactly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of like a college town.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's always nice, I think.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what I'm used to because that's those

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Speaker 7: you know, the college towns are so great because they're

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Speaker 1: Always good coffee in a college town.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, always good coffee.

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Speaker 1: You want to try bust the baton rouge?

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I'll just sing it, Okay.

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Speaker 6: I had to go back to that house one more time.

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Speaker 3: To see if the comunions were in blooms. For so

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Speaker 3: many reasons, there's been on my mind, the house Billmont

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Speaker 14: We're switches.

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Speaker 20: When we were bad, I took a boat to bat rooms.

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Speaker 20: I took a boat.

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Speaker 5: To bat room.

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Speaker 6: All the front rooms were.

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Speaker 14: Kept closed off.

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Speaker 16: I never liked to.

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Speaker 6: Go in their much. Sometimes the doors they be lockt.

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Speaker 3: Because there were precious things that I couldn't charge.

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Speaker 6: The company, capt covered and plastic. The book about Being Saved.

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Speaker 5: The dotty room table that nobody ate out.

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Speaker 3: In the piano that nobody played.

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Speaker 6: I took a book to battle.

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Speaker 8: I took a ball.

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Speaker 5: To batter.

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Speaker 14: There was a beautiful land.

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Speaker 6: I always lost.

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Speaker 3: A seashore was painted on the sade, and it would

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Speaker 6: When you switched on the ball.

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Speaker 5: And gently.

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Speaker 16: Rock the ways.

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Speaker 3: The javey was covered with tawny white seashells. A fig

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Speaker 21: Well, but to tell them would just be to hall.

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Speaker 21: Go stand the wind that blow through my life.

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Speaker 6: Follow me wherever I go.

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Speaker 19: I'll never be free from these chains inside, hidden deep

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Speaker 19: down in my soul.

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Speaker 6: I took a ball to Bacroum. I took a ball.

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Speaker 4: To bad, to the board.

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Speaker 6: To Bad.

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Speaker 8: You're brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I didn't go to the g eire.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh there, I just did the.

457
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 8: C I'm just trying to follow you.

458
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 6: You're good on the interviews.

459
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: I just kind of did the C to F thanks

460
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: instead of go and doing the whole cycle got I

461
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: didn't know if there was a solo. I can't remember

462
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: when we started doing the Harmony band.

463
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 6: It was so pretty.

464
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 8: Is what's happening? Yeah, I'm sitting here with Norah, Joe.

465
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 6: Sitting here Williams.

466
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 7: We're singing together. It's amazing in New York City. Yet

467
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 7: this wonderful studio.

468
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 17: Sounds like when when Elf, when he's singing, singing, you're

469
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 17: my dad, but.

470
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 6: You didn't know about me.

471
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 16: But I'm here and I'm.

472
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 18: You.

473
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: I love you, I love you.

474
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: I was actually just telling Jamie. As I've gotten older,

475
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't cry a lot. I don't know if it's

476
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: because I've become hardened or what. But there's only a

477
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: couple of things that kind of helped me get it out.

478
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: And one of them is Elf the movie, and one

479
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: of them is listening to your music, which is a

480
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: funny two thing to put together. But I get you

481
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: laugh when you see when you see ll No I cry. Oh,

482
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: there's this one part in Elf that I cry every year.

483
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: It's like the whole year builds up. And then that's

484
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: there's this scene where where the sleigh finally flies and

485
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: they finally all realize then the magic of Christmas is real,

486
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: and I just like I can't.

487
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 8: I don't know.

488
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: It's such a weird place to cry because it's not

489
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: sad but so good. It's just so well done. But

490
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I do the same thing with your music. I don't know.

491
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I think I've cried. I've come to see you a

492
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: few times too, and just like weeped in the audience,

493
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting, like I think your music has.

494
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: Obviously it has a really visceral like emotional quality to it.

495
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: Maybe it's your voice, the songs, of course, the way

496
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: you record. You know, it's not overly, you know, it's

497
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: not the annoying thing about music. It's the real heart

498
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: and raw soul of it.

499
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 8: I love that word visceral.

500
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I used it and I thought, wait,

501
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: am I using this right?

502
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 8: No, that's good. That's a good one. That's good.

503
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's done well for me. Thank you for

504
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: all the good cries.

505
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 16: You want to try.

506
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 8: We've come too far to term.

507
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this song, do you know I last

508
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: time I saw you actually was that that love Love

509
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Rocks thing at the Beacon maybe in twenty nineteen or eighteen,

510
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: and you came out and you did this song solo,

511
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: and that's the first time I heard it.

512
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 7: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that was the one with where there

513
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 7: were a lot of different artists and it was a

514
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 7: tribute anyway.

515
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. You came out and I ended this

516
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: solo and I.

517
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 18: Was so.

518
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Into the song, really loved it.

519
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 8: That's cool.

520
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Thank you. You did a version of it with Charles

521
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: Lloyd not Yeah.

522
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 7: Which I'll listened to last night, and I hadn't heard

523
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 7: it in so long, and I was pleasantly surprised at

524
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 7: how good it sounded.

525
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: So good.

526
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just loved him so much.

527
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: He's great. You did that in the studio with him.

528
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, and we did.

529
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 7: We ended up going out on the road together and

530
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 7: doing a bunch of shows.

531
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: That's such a cool combination.

532
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: I know.

533
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 7: He just blows me away his playing. Yeah, he's got

534
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 7: that Coltrane thing.

535
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, No, it was great. I'm so glad

536
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: you recorded it that way too. It was cool.

537
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, me too, I'm glad we have that down.

538
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 10: Yeah.

539
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's try it. I'm nervous. Let me start over.

540
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 22: We're just looking at like, oh my God, she's doing

541
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 22: the thing that she does.

542
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 8: All right, I'm gonna have to move to New York

543
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 8: now I knew, I knew it.

544
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 6: I'm in love.

545
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 7: You're here, your piano and the studio, Like I want

546
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 7: to transplant myself.

547
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: If you come to New York, we'll do some stuff.

548
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: We hang out, we get have dinner, we can pat musich.

549
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 23: I know, you see that you need to do some

550
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 23: shows together. That would be fun you on piano that

551
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 23: I would.

552
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 24: Love to do that.

553
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 25: I would love that too, me too, because then because

554
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 25: a handful of my songs, several of my songs had

555
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 25: really benefit from this type of arrangement, you know.

556
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 7: But it's hard to do that unless you're on someone's

557
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 7: on piano like this, Yeah, and then like Charles Charles

558
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 7: when he was doing the sax thing.

559
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's hard to carry piano around or

560
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: find a different one in each place. It's kind of yeah, tricky.

561
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously you're not going to bring this on

562
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 8: the road.

563
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: So actually we do bring a grand on the road,

564
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: you did. I know, It's kind of crazy how well

565
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: I put it in my pocket. Now, I I have

566
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: a great crew who packed there's like a case that

567
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: it goes in and then it goes in the truck.

568
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 8: Wow, there's an actual case. Yeah, grand piano.

569
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Do they take the legs off? Yeah, they take the

570
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: legs out. That's amazing. It's kind of wild. But it's

571
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: tricky because you know, if you're playing outside in the summer.

572
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, the change the yeah, tuning probably it can be tricky.

573
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you know, I haven't been able to

574
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: switch to digital because it's.

575
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 8: Just yeah, I can understand that would be a hard.

576
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: Transition, maybe if I was playing in like stadiums, but

577
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm playing in theaters, and yeah, it still

578
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: feels like a real piano.

579
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 24: Yeah, so.

580
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 13: I had to.

581
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 7: I had to learn it again too, because even though

582
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 7: I've done it so many times.

583
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 8: But I don't know why that is.

584
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 7: I just like I have to have all the worst

585
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 7: of my own songs, you know, when I perform them.

586
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: I mean I was going to ask about that, actually, yeah,

587
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: because you have so many songs and they have so

588
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: many lyrics, I know.

589
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 8: And I just got to where I had to.

590
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 7: We had to use a teleprompter because I used to

591
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 7: bring a notebook literally with all the song rics, this

592
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 7: big notebook on stage and put it on a music

593
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 7: stand and turn the pages and everything, and that got

594
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 7: to be kind of cumbersome. Yeah, so we decided to

595
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 7: go with the teleprompter thing.

596
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: How do you know the number of songs that are

597
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: input it into it?

598
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 17: I don't know, if you know, I mean upwards of

599
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 17: a hundred probably.

600
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's not your whole no, no, you know,

601
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: just just the ones you're doing list.

602
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 7: So it's just the songs that I'm doing, you know,

603
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 7: on that got the stretch of tours shows.

604
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's a big database where in a Google drive

605
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 17: and if and if a song pops up in the

606
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 17: set that hasn't been done since the teleprompter days, oh yeah,

607
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 17: it gets it's pulled from the Google drive and put

608
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 17: into the teleprompter and then it lives there forever.

609
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 7: Gotta love technology, so they know all this, you know,

610
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 7: digital stuff that I still don't understand. No analog, your

611
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 7: analog all the way. I'm being pulled gently along. That's

612
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 7: good into the digital world. Just follow the music universe.

613
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: Follow the music. It's all good.

614
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 7: Well, it's it makes things convenient, yeah, you know, an

615
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 7: easier to manage when you have to tour and do

616
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 7: all these things, with all these songs and instruments and

617
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: all this different people, and I have them.

618
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: I have like four or five songs in the set

619
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: usually that I kind of need a little help with lyrics,

620
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: and I have them on the piano. But then it's like,

621
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, then I'm turning it, but it's not in

622
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: a book.

623
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 24: Yeah.

624
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 7: I was doing the pages and the that was working

625
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 7: until I was playing at the Bridge concert when you

626
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 7: were did they blow off? Yes, when a gust of

627
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 7: wind came along and blew all the pages onto the

628
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 7: stage and there I was completely in a panic trying

629
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 7: to grab all the pages and put them back on

630
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: the music stand. And Emmie lu Harris saw the whole thing,

631
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 7: and she joked with me about kind of teasing me

632
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 7: about it later.

633
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 9: You know.

634
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: So that sounds like an anxiety dream that I've had,

635
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, where you're on stage

636
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you don't know how to

637
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: finish what you're supposed to be doing.

638
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 8: I know, that's all it takes is one time of

639
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 8: forgetting the words. Oh you know, I know.

640
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 7: Ever since then, I had to have kind of a

641
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 7: little cheat sheet, just something to kind of just fall

642
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 7: back on yeah, to spur you along, and it to me,

643
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 7: it really gave me a sense of It was really

644
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 7: liberating as far as singing goes, because I didn't have

645
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: to think about Okay, what's that next line, or yeah,

646
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 7: what words coming up next?

647
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 8: I could just concentrate on the singing.

648
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just be in the moment, right exactly. That's great.

649
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad they have that now to help us.

650
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 7: But you know, then I see people like Steve Earle

651
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 7: get up and sing these needless to say, he had

652
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 7: all of his songs, with all of his you know,

653
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 7: a multitude of complicated lyrics, and he's up there wailing away,

654
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 7: you know, with no words printed or anything, just off

655
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 7: the cuff.

656
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: Some people, I've noticed some people really laser in in

657
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, it's nice when you can. I mean,

658
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: we have moments of doing that. It's just hard to

659
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: always do it. You have just so many songs.

660
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 7: But it's weird because when I was when I first

661
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 7: started out playing live and everything, I just you know,

662
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 7: I never forgot the words. I knew them all and

663
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 7: just yeah, you know, get up and sing without any

664
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 7: kind of assistance like that. Yeah, I don't know how

665
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 7: somebody like Bob Dylan does it.

666
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: He probably has a prompter now, But I see all

667
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: those videos from like the seventies and there's verse after

668
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: verse after verse, and he's just laser focused on something

669
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: else the song, you know. Yeah, yeah, it definitely inspired

670
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: me when I saw that to learn my lyrics better.

671
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

672
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like where it says instrumental, is that a solo?

673
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just do a little. Maybe I'll just do

674
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: the same, like the intro where it's not a full

675
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: on we don't go to the bridge?

676
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, Okay, did I actually write a bridge?

677
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: Well? When I say bridge, I think I come from

678
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: the old school jazz standard, yeah, terminology where when they

679
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: we used to say bridge and talking about jazz tunes

680
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: and it was like kind of more of a chorus.

681
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: But it's just not the same, so I always say

682
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: it wrong and confuse people.

683
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 7: I was just saying that because there's this running joke

684
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 7: about how my songs don't have bridges.

685
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've told in my concerts.

686
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 7: Like one of this record company guy had called me

687
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 7: in for a meeting because he lies to my music

688
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 7: and liked my songs, and he said, I think you

689
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 7: need to go back to the drawing board though as

690
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 7: a songwriter, because none of your songs have bridges, it's insane.

691
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: You know which song was he talking about?

692
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 8: Well, one of them would have probably been changed.

693
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 6: The Locks.

694
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites.

695
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 7: It doesn't need a bridge, right, which was recorded by

696
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: Tom Petty. So I didn't do too bad there.

697
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know a lot. I just didn't think

698
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 8: about that standard way of writing.

699
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: I have a hard time with bridges. They if they're inspired,

700
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: I love them, But sometimes they feel like they're come

701
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: from a different song. Do you know what I mean? Yeah,

702
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Have you ever written one?

703
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 8: I don't think so. I don't know. I don't. I

704
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 8: can't think of any of my songs you too, They're

705
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 8: just you probably wouldn't call them bridges.

706
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 17: I mean we were having this conversation that all right,

707
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 17: this one that's kind I would kind of call that

708
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 17: a bridge.

709
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: To me was a bridging to a chorus. I think

710
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: that's what the more pop terminology.

711
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 14: The bridge.

712
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 9: You have to do this thing in order to get into.

713
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: The It's like a little other section between the verse

714
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: and the court.

715
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 8: It's the link between the end of the verse and

716
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 8: the core. Into the court.

717
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: It's like this other bridge, the bridge, but I don't know. Yeah,

718
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call this a technical bridge.

719
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 18: I just called bridges from jazz jazz Land's see.

720
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 13: I love that.

721
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

722
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 8: I keep here in a wreath in front Ecklan's voice

723
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 8: in my head.

724
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: You know, I keep hearing yours.

725
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I'm ready, all right, here we go.

726
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Ready, mm hmmmm.

727
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.

728
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 5: Mm hmmmm.

729
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 14: We are weary of these tries of tribulations.

730
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 6: We are tired. But we have come too far to turn.

731
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 9: From the city of Atlanta to Birmingham, Alabama.

732
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 16: We have come too far to turn. We are here

733
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 16: to bear.

734
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 3: Witness to the small strussitius.

735
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 6: We have come too far to turn.

736
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 5: We have stared and to the eyes to evil.

737
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 9: We are slow down with the denvel. We have sat down.

738
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: His table.

739
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 6: And shared it with him.

740
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 16: In the feet.

741
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 6: We have swallowed the letquid Off is low.

742
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: Tolerated the one we despise, ben let Us stray.

743
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 14: By has discuss.

744
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 16: A bar.

745
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Is believed.

746
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 14: We've been fixed himself his ride, and.

747
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 6: We wigger from the path. And we have come too far, deterriz.

748
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 26: We laid down the book of hate and separation because

749
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 26: we have come too far Deternroight.

750
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 27: For over four homes hundred years.

751
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 6: We've been on this trail of.

752
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 11: Tears, and we have come too far to turnround, have stared.

753
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 5: To the eye of evil. We have slow down.

754
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 9: With the desk. We have sat down at its table.

755
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 6: And shared with him.

756
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: In the fees.

757
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 10: We have swung the liquid off and corn to tolerated

758
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 10: the one.

759
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 16: We just a.

760
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 6: We let us train.

761
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 14: By his discuss and food by.

762
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: His belief.

763
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: We are weary all these tries of tribulations.

764
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 22: We are ta, but we have come too far.

765
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 6: To turn around.

766
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: That's great. That song is never gonna sound the same

767
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: or oh man, that is a powerful song. It struck

768
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: me the first time I heard it. I couldn't believe.

769
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Really just like straight to the thing.

770
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 7: I was pretty angry about what was going on with

771
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 7: the world, the world, the person who was trying to

772
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 7: run the world.

773
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got that sense the mister DT. But

774
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: it's funny how you can be so specifically angry about

775
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: something and write a song like this and it can

776
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: still cover so many eras of being angry about something.

777
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 7: Yeah. Right, But I was also thinking back on the

778
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 7: struggles from the civil rights movement and the women's movement

779
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 7: and just all of these battles that everybody's been through.

780
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 8: Really.

781
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, it goes over the hundreds of years,

782
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 7: the Native American struggle, the Black struggle. That's been so

783
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 7: many struggles along the way.

784
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

785
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: When I was reading your book, it sounded like your

786
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: dad and maybe your mom also, they were really involved. Yeah,

787
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: progressive and it involved in things.

788
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 10: Yeah.

789
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 7: They well, my dad's dad was also my grandfather on

790
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 7: my dad's side was involved in the Southern Tenant Unions

791
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 7: farmers struggle when they wanted to unionize because they weren't

792
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 7: being paid fairly and everything.

793
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 8: You know, that was when there'd be.

794
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 7: A plot of land like a farm, and people of

795
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 7: color would be working the land. They would essentially rent

796
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 7: a plot of land from the landowner and then work.

797
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 7: Each person would work his plot of land, and but

798
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 7: you know, there were some problems that went along with that.

799
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 7: People gathered together and tried to help them unionize, and

800
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 7: my grandfather was got involved in that, wow, and was

801
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 7: you know, supportive of them and everything. And because sometimes

802
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 7: they would have to have meetings in private, and some

803
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 7: people would offer their homes, you know, for the activists

804
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 7: to come in and have meetings to talk about what

805
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 7: they needed to do. And my grandfather was one of

806
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 7: those people who would let them hold meetings in his home.

807
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: Wow.

808
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 8: And he was real active and progressive.

809
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 7: And of course he was a minister, so a lot

810
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 7: of times that you know, he was fighting against the

811
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 7: church at the same time because they wouldn't be as supportive.

812
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 8: A lot of times.

813
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: That's quite the line to walk at that time. Oh yeah,

814
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: it's interesting.

815
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 14: Yeah.

816
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 7: I always when I tell this story and I'm doing

817
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 7: my shows, I always say my grandfather was a Christian

818
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 7: and the true sense of the word.

819
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, he walked the walk and talked the talk.

820
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

821
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 8: Yeah.

822
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell the song comes from a deep

823
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: yeah knowledge of the struggles.

824
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 7: Yeah.

825
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: That's what I love about it. It's so powerful.

826
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 8: It's good not to forget it's important.

827
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 19: Yeah.

828
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why songs are good to help your.

829
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 7: Help you helped to gently remind you to get off

830
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 7: your ass and be progressive and move forward. Yeah.

831
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Do you do that song every night?

832
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 8: No, not every night, but.

833
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 7: I'm thinking I'm I'm gonna probably want to do it

834
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 7: at the the tomorrow night at the Beacon. I'm like,

835
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 7: I want to do it. Yeah, it's just so relevant.

836
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 7: The audience just seems to really gravitate towards it.

837
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was like the first time I heard it,

838
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: I was I was like, it's one of those songs

839
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: where you don't need to know it, it just strikes

840
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: you as soon as you hear it.

841
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 19: Yeah.

842
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, it reminds me, you know.

843
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 7: Of course, I was inspired so much by a lot

844
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 7: of the beautiful older Protest songs that we used to sing,

845
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 7: like we Shall Ever Come, you know.

846
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it probably reminds me of that one the most.

847
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.

848
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 7: Whenever those songs would be sung by group of people,

849
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 7: it just felt so wonderful to be included in that

850
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 7: group singing with other people the same song and feeling

851
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 7: a similar way, you know, and there's just this such

852
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 7: a strong connection between the people singing it, and you know,

853
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 7: it's just a good feeling.

854
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: There must Yeah, there's nothing like that.

855
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 8: There's nothing like that.

856
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: Wow.

857
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 7: And so I was trying to I wanted to get

858
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 7: that feeling again of you know, how that felt back

859
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 7: then to you know, be doing marches and singing those

860
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 7: songs and you know, yeah, and everything it's beautiful.

861
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: The new album has a really beautiful song on it

862
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: where the song will Find Me. Yeah, I was wondering

863
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: if we should do that one.

864
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, that'd be great.

865
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: This song.

866
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: How how when did do you remember when you wrote

867
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: this song?

868
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 11: Well?

869
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 7: The interesting thing about this is I actually got some

870
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 7: help on this from my husband and manager, Tom Overbee, who,

871
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 7: as it turns out, is it's come to my attention,

872
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 7: is a pretty darn good songwriter. You know.

873
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 8: Apparently he a long before we met, a long time ago.

874
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 7: He had been interested in writing and all of that,

875
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 7: and it came to the surface when after we met

876
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 7: and I was working on songs, and he would come

877
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: up and shyly show me some lyrics that.

878
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 8: He'd written an idea oh cool.

879
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 9: You know.

880
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 7: He'd say, I got this idea for something. Now you

881
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 7: don't have to use it if you don't want to.

882
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 7: I just wanted to show it to you. And that's

883
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 7: so sweet and it was sweet and as I would

884
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 7: take it and I'd look at it and it would

885
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 7: be good, you know.

886
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

887
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 8: So this was one that he came up with that

888
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 8: I wrote the melody for Oh cool.

889
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: These are his his lyrics. Yeah, I love the idea.

890
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 8: I know, the idea behind it is really different, unique, It's.

891
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: So sweet, just that. And then the last line, well,

892
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: I won't give it away, but the last line is

893
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: also so beautiful to me. Yeah, yeah, the feeling of

894
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: where the song will find me? Yeah, all right, cool?

895
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: And this is on the new album.

896
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is on the new album.

897
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: Alright, let's try this.

898
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 9: Mm hmmm.

899
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 28: Mm hmm.

900
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 24: Standing in the rain, in the pouring silver draw, I'll

901
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 24: ride the whistling tribe.

902
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 6: And I'll get off at every star. I wanna be.

903
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: Where the song can find me, walk across the bridge,

904
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: stir up at the.

905
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 14: Store so close, jzy air, and all.

906
00:57:44,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: The passing car because I wanna be where the songs

907
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: to find me.

908
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 22: I wan't wanna be.

909
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 6: With the song.

910
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 22: You can find me.

911
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 27: I know the will find me like this songbow du.

912
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 16: I know they will find me when it's time to.

913
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: I don't fail to find me when they're ready to

914
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: be found. They'll come up behind me, not making a sound,

915
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 3: not making a sound, find.

916
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 14: Myself alone.

917
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 6: In the muddy crowd.

918
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 3: On the bustling New York streets, people talking whow, sitting.

919
00:59:47,120 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 6: An stood corner of ball on the earand of.

920
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 19: A food.

921
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 14: Has carried me this foe.

922
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 6: You're a place.

923
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 14: Where the song.

924
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 6: Can find me.

925
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 28: You're place where the song can't find me. I don't

926
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 28: never find.

927
01:00:54,520 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 16: Me like they always do, Hona. They will find me

928
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 16: when it's time to.

929
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 6: Honest.

930
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 27: They will find me when ready to be found.

931
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 9: They'll come up behind me without making a son, without

932
01:01:23,600 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 9: making a sigh.

933
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 27: I want to feel that, alum.

934
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 22: With a song.

935
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 27: And find me.

936
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 22: I want to feel that mama when the song can

937
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 22: save me.

938
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 6: Yay, yay. That was beautiful.

939
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: Wow, it was a beautiful song.

940
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 8: Thank you. That sounds so good with the piano. I've

941
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 8: never heard it like that before.

942
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: The chords are pretty on this, they're really I like

943
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: the little corners they go to.

944
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I love that you picked that up, probably

945
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 7: when you heard the recording, because some I guess Doug's

946
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 7: doing that on the guitar or something that.

947
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, I'm like, where's he gonna go,

948
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: and he's like he slides. It's so pretty.

949
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 8: I love that.

950
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That's Doug Pettybone. Yeah yeah, I love his

951
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: guitar playing so much. This was so fun, Thank you

952
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: so much.

953
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 8: Oh I'm just thoroughly enjoyed it.

954
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you were up for it.

955
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

956
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Well I've made myself up for it so well.

957
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man, when you're on the road, it's

958
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: hard to be up for anything office.

959
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 7: This was an exception. Well, I'm I always going to

960
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 7: want to do this, and I wanted to do a

961
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 7: good as best of a job as I could.

962
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: You did great, you sound great.

963
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 8: Thank you.

964
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 7: Like when you were when we were first communicating about

965
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 7: doing this, and you said, and I said something about

966
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 7: rehearsing the songs first, and you said, no, we're just

967
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 7: going to jump right in.

968
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 8: And I totally got that.

969
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 7: But when you get it, when it's spontaneous, there's nothing

970
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 7: like that exactly.

971
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 14: You know.

972
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you were down for that.

973
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I understand that concept. That's how you record.

974
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 9: Well.

975
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't like to rehearse.

976
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 8: I don't like to rehearse either.

977
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: No, it's the kiss of missing it.

978
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 8: Yeah it is.

979
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, thank.

980
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 8: You for having me.

981
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: I love you so much.

982
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 8: I love you so much.

983
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 10: Thank you.

984
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great time out there.

985
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 14: I loved it more, I really did.

986
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I've never just being able to sit here

987
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 7: and hear you play piano this close up and everything.

988
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 8: Just you know, I'm a fan.

989
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a fan.

990
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: Thank you Travis for joining me.

991
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 9: Hey, thank you for allowing me to be here.

992
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 1: This was This was a treat.

993
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 7: It was lovely and beautiful and I just one of

994
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 7: the songs we were doing, I kind of got chills.

995
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 8: A little bit.

996
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: Good.

997
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 8: My heart was just so big and just going, oh

998
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 8: love love.

999
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 7: Sometimes I just get these just overwhelming feeling and I

1000
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 7: just want to hug everybody and that's the good stuff.

1001
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1002
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good place to be. Well, I'm gonna

1003
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: hugg you now, is that okay?

1004
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 5: Yes?

1005
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 8: Please?

1006
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: Ah my Lou Oh so sweet. She's just so great.

1007
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: She's a hugger, yeah, of course, Southern Southerner. Yeah. I

1008
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: loved her stories. Also, I got to say to everyone

1009
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: out there and also you, I don't know if you

1010
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: read it, but her book is great. I have not

1011
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: read her book yet, but he's really going to now.

1012
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. Just hearing her talk about her parents.

1013
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: It was really moving and it's an interesting story. It's

1014
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: called Don't Tell Anybody The Secrets. I told you, and

1015
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: it's great. She's very giving with her stories about her songs,

1016
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: which I really didn't expect. I always expect people to

1017
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: be a little more protective of that stuff. I don't

1018
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: know why, maybe because I am, Yeah, but I like

1019
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: when they're not, because it's really nice to get a

1020
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: little peek into stuff and really good stories to go with.

1021
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah everything, Yeah, that's beautiful. If you want to hear

1022
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: the names of the songs we played in this episode,

1023
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: the first one was something about what Happens when We

1024
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: Talk from Sweet Old World nineteen ninety two. That's one

1025
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs. The second song also one of

1026
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: my favorites, bus to Baton Rouge from Essence, which was

1027
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: released in two thousand and one. The third one, which

1028
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: is also one of my favorite newer songs, We've Come

1029
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: Too Far to turn Around. She released this on an

1030
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: album called Vanish Gardens, which she made with saxophonist Charles Lloyd.

1031
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: From twenty eighteen, number four, we played where the song

1032
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: Will Find Me, which was from a newer record twenty

1033
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: twenty two called Stories from a Rock and Roll Heart.

1034
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: I love that song. Special thanks to Lucinda Williams and

1035
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: Travis Stevens for joining us today. We'll be back next

1036
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: week with Efa O'Donovan. Narah Jones is playing along as

1037
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Podcasts. I'm your Host, Norah Jones,

1038
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Today's episode was recorded at Seer Sound

1039
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: in New York City by Steven Sacho, assisted by Maximilian

1040
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: Trophy and Mose Wheeler and Jasper Leach. Mixed by Jamie Landry,

1041
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: edited by Sarah Oda, with additional recording by Matt Marinelli.

1042
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: Audio post production and mastering by Greg Tobler. Artwork by

1043
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: Eliza Frye, Photography by Shervin Linez, Coordinating producer Rachel Ward,

1044
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: Executive producers Aaron Wang Kaufman and Jordan Runtog, Marketing lead

1045
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: Queen and Nake, and produced by Norah Jones and Sarah Oda. Hey,

1046
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: that's us, Thanks so much for listening. Audios