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Speaker 1: I don't think you you place replace a guy like Devin.

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Speaker 1: I think he's so unique in what he's meant to

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Speaker 1: this franchise. I think he stands alone. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's important that as guys step up and lead, that

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Speaker 1: they just be themselves. Don't try to be Devin, don't

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Speaker 1: try to necessarily do things the way he did it,

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Speaker 1: you know, do you know, lead to your strengths and

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Speaker 1: be yourself. And guys always appreciate authenticity. So it's going

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Speaker 1: to take a collective to really replace what he did here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Again, I don't think anybody's gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do that, but we'll try to move on

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Speaker 1: as best we can that what do you guys have

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Speaker 1: conversations about that, like, as a leadership group, replacing somebody

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Speaker 1: of that magnitude? Yeah, you know what, I we don't

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Speaker 1: have direct conversations about it. I think we all understand

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Speaker 1: the void that exists without him being here. And I

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Speaker 1: think that Devin and I for the last several years

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Speaker 1: have tried to be intentional about empowering other guys to lead.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the beauty of great leadership is

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not about you, It was never about Devon.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to bring out the best and other guys.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to see them reach their potential as leaders

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Speaker 1: and as players, and I think he empowered a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys to do that. And I think you look

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Speaker 1: at a guy like Juwan Bentley or brother Wise, and

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Speaker 1: I think those guys are better leaders for having been

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Speaker 1: around Devon on two thousand rookie and the general vibe

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Speaker 1: that you went through and what it's like for some

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Speaker 1: of these guys to go through PTSD. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: look cut down days hard for everyone, even a guy

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Speaker 1: in my position, guys that have been in this league

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Speaker 1: for a long time. It's not something that you enjoy.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you work and strive and sacrifice for

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Speaker 1: your dream for so long. And for some of us

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Speaker 1: who're fortunate enough where it works out in the place

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Speaker 1: where we started, and for others, you know that they

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Speaker 1: have to take a different path, and you know that's

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Speaker 1: that's very challenging, and you know, how do you navigate that?

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Speaker 1: What do you say to guys? How do you encourage?

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you keep them to keep pursuing

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Speaker 1: their dream? It's tough, and you know this is not

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Speaker 1: an easy day for anyone in here, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stress anxiety. I mean I feel it as soon

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Speaker 1: as I hit the door, so you try to work

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Speaker 1: through it as best you can. We all understand it's

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Speaker 1: a part of the business, but it's not easy. The

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Speaker 1: other side of that, to see some of these kids

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Speaker 1: have their NFL dream come true, it's fantastic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: kids have been dreaming of this since they're four or

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Speaker 1: five years old, and to see their dream come to

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Speaker 1: fruition is is really cool. It's really a neat thing,

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Speaker 1: and I think we all realize how blessed we are

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Speaker 1: to be a part of something special like this. To

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Speaker 1: play in this league is something that is really a

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Speaker 1: gift and to realize that dream and it's definitely a

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Speaker 1: mountaintop experience. Do you remember yours years ago? Well, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure what was going on. I I just came

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Speaker 1: to work and I guess they said, nobody called me,

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Speaker 1: nobody asked for my playbook. So I'm gonna just keep

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Speaker 1: coming to work until they asked me for my playbook.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I still operate. So I

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Speaker 1: just remember call my parents and tell him I think

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Speaker 1: I made it. I'm not sure, but uh, man, I

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Speaker 1: was just overjoyed. And you know, the way my rookie

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Speaker 1: year went in the preseason and during the year, I

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Speaker 1: was minute to minute, I was waiting for that tap

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Speaker 1: every day. So, uh, it was a blessing to be

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Speaker 1: able to make it good. I mean, it's, uh, it's tough,

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Speaker 1: you know, Nick, I'll say this, Nick is probably the

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Speaker 1: most professional guy I've ever worked with in terms of

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Speaker 1: his approach, in terms of how he attacked his craft,

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Speaker 1: and the type of teammate that he's been to all

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Speaker 1: of us in this locker room. And it's always tough

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Speaker 1: to see guys go, especially a guy like that. You know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the emotions that I feel when when guys are on

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Speaker 1: the move, it's hard to articulate, I mean, because you

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Speaker 1: have relationships with these guys. For a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: it's just numbers and you know, just the name and

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Speaker 1: you know, let's get to the season and let's do

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Speaker 1: this and then let's start projecting that. But for us,

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Speaker 1: this is our livelihood. This is how you know, we

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Speaker 1: provide for our families, and you know, we sacrifice a lot.

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to see guys move like that. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Nicole go kill it and Tennessee we all know that.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I wish him well and I

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Speaker 1: thank him for everything he taught me. Yeah man, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. Yeah. Yeah, I am old,

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Speaker 1: so used to have hair. Now I don't know,