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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're gonna take the position that

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Speaker 1: Okay, secret flesh Saturday. That's fair. It's a fair way

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Speaker 1: other college football news, Dan, there are new college football

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Speaker 1: rankings and guess what they look exactly the same, almost

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Speaker 1: exactly the same they do as we could go no

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Speaker 1: change right now. If the season were to end, it

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Speaker 1: would be al Bama one, clumpson two, Notre Dame three,

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Speaker 1: Michigan four. Do you have a problem with that order? No?

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Speaker 2: Some some people have pointed to Michigan perhaps having a

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Speaker 2: more successful way through their perhaps more difficult schedule. Nothing

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Speaker 2: that Notre Dame can necessarily control. Those two teams play

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame in Michigan. I believe Notre Dame did win

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Speaker 1: I believe it was twenty four to seventeen. That would

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Speaker 1: be the end of the argument. Is that the end

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Speaker 2: Do you cut it off at head to head week one? Like,

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Speaker 2: I know you're mostly saying this seriously, but there's a

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Speaker 2: part of you that says that you're saying this is

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Speaker 2: a endy nation dot com.

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Speaker 1: Lurker, Sure of course. Yeah, well they played head to

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Speaker 1: head and Notre Dame they did, so I don't understand

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Speaker 1: the logic in putting Michigan above Notre Dame. They played

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Speaker 1: well Notre Dame one. Notre Dame hasn't lost. That should

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Speaker 1: be end of story. Why they played head to head?

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Speaker 2: I know they did, but why is that the end

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Speaker 2: of the story when there's an entire the season is

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Speaker 2: an evolving beast.

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Speaker 1: The season is an evolving beast, for sure, But if

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Speaker 1: there is that head to head comparison, that's the problem

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Speaker 1: with the whole system. That's the beauty in the whole system.

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Speaker 1: In very few instances, are far fewer instances than we need.

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Speaker 1: You don't have that head to head comparison, So certainly

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Speaker 1: you should hold the most weight knowing that they played,

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Speaker 1: knowing that one team beat the other. Notre Dame looked

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Speaker 1: pretty damn good in that game. They did. So if

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Speaker 1: you've got that as a variable to consider, you should

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Speaker 1: want to use it. You should use that first and

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Speaker 2: So right now, and depending on how much stock you

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Speaker 2: put in this bill, Connolly's S and P plus ratings,

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Speaker 2: I'm very careful to use ratings, not rankings. It's future predictive.

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Speaker 2: So Michigan is ahead of Notre Dame in terms of offense, defense,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is fourteenth and the resume rank of Michigan

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Speaker 2: is third. So against what he purports to be a

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Speaker 2: stronger schedule, which I think is reasonable to say. Also,

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Speaker 2: And I I don't think that's everything. I think head

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Speaker 1: Be more important than head to head in week one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you would put Michigan above Notre Dame. I might.

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Speaker 1: I might.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing, the sort of addendum to this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I might be inclined to do that.

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Speaker 1: My addendum, this is a ridiculous argument, But continue, I'd like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's say Michigan didn't have the chance to

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Speaker 2: Pit's pretty good Now my addendum is Notre Dame fans

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Speaker 2: then it becomes a Michigan, Georgia, Michigan, Oklahoma, Michigan, Washington state.

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Speaker 2: Question if everybody seems to a West Virginia excuse me

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Speaker 2: for that matter as well. Unfortunately, you see, I probably

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Speaker 1: So also in those same S and P plus ratings, please,

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Speaker 1: we've got Fresno State above West Virginia. We've got Central Florida. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: above Ohio State. We've got Apple Aachian state above LSU.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch Ohio State struggle with Nebraska. I remember

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Speaker 2: that game pretty viguarly.

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Speaker 1: I'm using a few examples here now I know, so

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Speaker 1: are we just going to accept that at face value?

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Speaker 1: Then that before I said therefore no, Okay, I use

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Speaker 1: that as an example of saying Michigan's performance throughout the

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame has done, you know, selecting the wrong quarterback

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Speaker 2: They did beat Michigan with their backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Indeed they did.

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Speaker 2: I'm just willing to believe that the season evolves and

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Speaker 2: it's a changing beast.

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Speaker 1: Let me put it to you this way, Okay. I

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Speaker 1: value the head to head matchup more than I value

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Speaker 1: the season evolves. Michigan's come a long way. I think

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Speaker 1: what Michigan's done so far the season, from start to

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Speaker 1: finish has really been admirable. I absolutely think they deserve

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame remains unbeaten, as long as Notre Dame did

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Speaker 1: beat Michigan to head to head, there's no reason Notre

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Speaker 2: I actually had another question for you because I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't consume a ton of college football talk. I

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Speaker 2: will listen to our friends at PAPN, Stephen Godfree and

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Speaker 1: I reading. I read a lot, That's what I did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And I just I like to live in

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Speaker 2: argumentative world. As you can probably guess, Tyana, I don't

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Speaker 2: But the one thing I've seen in a couple different

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Speaker 2: capital G good season?

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Speaker 1: Capital G? Well? And how do you quantify that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have I not been sending you the checks? Oh? Ty?

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of in retrospect. Oh I guess beating

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Speaker 2: there are sort of there are lookbacks that don't make

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Speaker 1: Right Like, I'll take TCU as an example. Sure, TCU

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Speaker 1: Ohio State has regressed a little bit. Ohio State isn't

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Speaker 1: what we thought. It's always easier in retrospect to examine

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Speaker 2: This makes me think, It makes not think. This makes

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Speaker 2: me question, not in a negative way, not in an

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Speaker 2: it's disappointing. And this season if you look across mostly

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Speaker 1: Who's taking their place? Even the SEC DAN. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I always bring it back to food. You're not going

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Speaker 2: know bull season gets weird. I hope you know rivalry

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Speaker 2: weeks because I guess there's multiple weeks now get weird,

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Speaker 2: and I imagine they will. But in terms of filling vacuums,

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Speaker 2: it has not. It has not been the most exciting year.

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Speaker 2: And no, I imagine it's cyclical and next year will

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Speaker 2: be crazy or something like that. But you know, I

438
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Speaker 2: was talking PAC twelve and just you know the mess

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Speaker 2: that is, and I find it entertaining, but it's conference

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Speaker 2: that has a hard time getting people to pay attention

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Speaker 2: to it. The s the PAC twelve South has been

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Speaker 2: a mess. The Washington vacuum has allowed Washington State to

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Speaker 2: really establish itself, but Stanford and Oregon with down years,

444
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Speaker 2: and there's just that that pretty good gap where it's

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Speaker 2: a TBD, and I think it's just going to be

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Speaker 2: a TBD all year long. There's there's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of conference number four versus Conference number six games that

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Speaker 2: either have stakes or really present a reason to like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I got to stay up late to watch you know, Arizona,

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Speaker 2: Utah or something.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. It probably makes for a lot of interesting

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Speaker 1: matchups come Bowl season. And to our earlier conversation, it

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Speaker 1: does set up nicely for a team like Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: that isn't in a conference. Oh my god, the best

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Speaker 1: possible thing for Notre Dame. If conference play would have

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Speaker 1: taken a different turn throughout the course of the season,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame might have had a tougher argument, even despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're undefeated. Not being in the conference

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Speaker 1: might have come back to bite them in a way

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Speaker 1: that it won't this year. Because so many conferences feel

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Speaker 1: like they're down and out, so way in let us know.

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Speaker 1: Soliverble at gmail dot com is the email. Also look

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Speaker 1: us up on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all the usual hotspots. Dan,

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Speaker 1: real quick, before we get into some of the games,

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Speaker 1: we got some other things we're going to drizzle in

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Speaker 1: here over the course of the show because it is

467
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Speaker 1: Save the Date Saturday, mind you, and we're going to

468
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Speaker 1: have fun with it and talk through all the games.

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Speaker 1: But it's not the highest of high profile college football wise.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some other odds and ends here.

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Speaker 1: The thing I did want to get into though, before

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Speaker 1: I forget what is going on now at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: If I understand correct.

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Speaker 2: Travon Grimes. Yeah, I don't think it's going to last

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Speaker 2: know who Zack Smith is by now, the now fired

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Speaker 2: former Ohio State wide receivers coach. Confrontation between him and

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Speaker 2: who is now transferred to Florida. I believe his father

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Speaker 2: into basically Zack Smith dressing down Trevon Grimes at practice

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Speaker 2: and immediately after and with just no hesitation, Ohio State

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488
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Speaker 2: Michael Drake, the president of Ohio State all came out

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Speaker 2: and said this is one hundred percent not true. You know,

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491
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494
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Speaker 2: weird accusations continues. I don't think it's going to last

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Speaker 2: that much longer.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it was very odd. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see. Yeah, let's get into

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Speaker 1: some of the games here, shall we.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about actual games. Okay, two thirty neutral cider

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Speaker 1: in Yankee Stadium game. Not sure how I feel about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you have a hat that already I

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Speaker 1: Now it's on NBC Syracuse a Notre Dame. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's not at Notre Dame Syracuse versus Notre Dame neutral

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Speaker 1: site game. The line is about ten points in favor

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Speaker 1: of the fighting Irish. The state of play for Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is very simple. We talked about it earlier. If

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Speaker 1: they win this week against Syracuse, if they win next

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Speaker 1: There's any two ways about it. Way off. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: stakes are extremely high. And what worries means that Syracuse

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Speaker 1: knows that. That's you know, from time to time I

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Speaker 1: talk about games that I call quote I'm using the

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Speaker 1: air quotes here de facto national championships. This, my friends,

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Speaker 1: is a classic case of that. Because Syracuse ain't winning

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Speaker 1: the ACC Atlantic, they're not playing in the a SEC

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Speaker 1: title game, they close out the year with Boston College.

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Speaker 1: At this point in the season, this game is Syracuse's

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Speaker 1: national championship game. And so I get a little worried

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Speaker 1: when I see a situation like that because I know

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Speaker 1: they're going to be fired up.

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Speaker 2: So the good thing is it's not in the Carrier Dome.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just in terms of it being a huge

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Speaker 2: moment for Syracuse football and what they are themselves playing for,

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Speaker 2: and just this on this huge stage where there's nothing

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Speaker 2: really else happening at this time. That doesn't appear. I

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Speaker 2: also like that Syracuse ahead of this game, like as

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Speaker 2: a school, they're like, we did not move this game

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Speaker 2: the Yankee Stadium. This was not a Syracuse home game.

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Speaker 2: I want to make that perfectly clear. So this is

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Speaker 2: a Notre Dame home game. If you like Syracuse in

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Speaker 2: this game, you probably love the idea of hidden yards.

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Speaker 2: And that's because Syracuse has the best special teams unit,

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Speaker 2: which I guess is like five different units, but.

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Speaker 1: In college football, that's right.

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Speaker 2: They punt amazingly well, they cover a punt amazingly well,

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Speaker 2: they return punts, they just you know, in the game

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Speaker 2: of field position, they are just consistent winners. And against

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Speaker 2: what appears to be a very very good Notre Dame team,

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Speaker 2: it feels important. I don't trust Syracuse offensively to move

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Speaker 2: the ball against a top flight Notre Dame defense to

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Speaker 2: a crazy extent, and I don't know how much that

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much Syracuse stops Notre Dame, especially

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Speaker 2: if the Irish are getting it going on the ground

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Speaker 2: with Dexter Williams, which listen, if he's running, well, they're winning.

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Speaker 2: That's just the definition of Notre Dame season. I think

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Speaker 2: it's close for a half. I think Notre Dame ultimately

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Speaker 2: wins this game by double digits. The spread is about

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Speaker 2: nine to nine and a half, depending on where you look.

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Speaker 2: I have Notre Dame thirty four to twenty. Okay, interesting,

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Speaker 2: and you can, I'm sure talk to the ian Book situation.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I'm curious to see how ian

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Speaker 1: Book looks he set out the game last week due

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Speaker 1: to injury. Syracuse actually does a pretty good job getting

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Speaker 1: after the passer and rib injuries can be aggravated very easily.

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Speaker 1: I've done it, Believe me, I've broken ribs. It's not

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Speaker 1: hard to reaggravate them. Comparable athlete Ty Hills brand. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I can speak to it from the elite athletic perspective. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I do want to get back to what you said.

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Speaker 1: Though you mentioned hidden yards, I'd expand that out and

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Speaker 1: say hidden stuff. Syracuse is at a point now with

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Speaker 1: Dino Babers where they're scoring like forty four points a

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Speaker 1: most is the boring stuff, the hidden stuff that you mentioned.

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00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: Field position, Syracuse is very good when it comes to

648
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: playing the field position game. What about turnovers? Turnovers right now,

649
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: QS is the fourth best in the nation and turnover margins. Indeed,

650
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: all right, they've got a freshman defensive back. It was

651
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: five interceptions. That's incredible. And then you mentioned the special teams.

652
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: According to the S and P plus, Syracuse does have

653
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: the best special teams in the country. So, if nothing else,

654
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: I think that points to Syracuse playing really good team football.

655
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: That's not always something that shows up statistically in terms

656
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: of box scores, but in a very Iowa statey kind

657
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: of way. That to me is a team that's going

658
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: to hang around and play tough. So that's why I worry.

659
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I also worry. I won't drone on too much about this,

660
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: I promise I worry about Eric Dungee. Excuse me, grungy

661
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: Eric Dungee, thank you. He's very much a dual threat quarterback.

662
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: You lead Syracuse with one hundred and twenty nine rushing

663
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: attempts and he has twelve rushing touchdowns on the year.

664
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Plus he's a capable passer. Notre Dames defense hasn't really

665
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: seen that kind of quarterback this year, so I'm curious

666
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: to see how they respond. They could see a quarterback

667
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: like that if they make the playoff. Won't mention any names,

668
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: but certainly this is an interesting next step for them

669
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: just as a defensive unit. So the problem for Syracuse

670
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: they give up a lot of big plays. Notre Dame

671
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: has some home run hitters. You mentioned Dexter Williams. I

672
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: just I think it'll be a close game. I do

673
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: think Notre Dame's got the edge here, but I think

674
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Syracuse is going to fight him. I don't want to

675
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: count anyone out, so I'm taking take I always take points,

676
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: I know, but who are you actually? I take the points, Dan,

677
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: I'm on the side of the points.

678
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: It's should be forties and sunny, so nothing crazy weatherwise.

679
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: We disagree. I guess what is a moving on? Let's

680
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: go to three point thirty ABC. West Virginia at Oklahoma State.

681
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: I got this one at four and a half. Yep,

682
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: right now. Here's the deal for West Virginia, they're six

683
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: and one in the Big Twelve. They're tied for first

684
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: in the conference with Oklahoma. If they win this week,

685
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: it sets up I guess two straight weeks of Oklahoma

686
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: versus West Virginia, once in the regular season, once in

687
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: a conference championship. I am certain that Oklahoma State has

688
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: to be aware of this. You know they love to

689
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: play a spoiler. But their de facto national championship game

690
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: was last week and they lost to their hated rival

691
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: by what a miss two point conversion. So I'm wondering

692
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: if there isn't an enormous letdown effect in play here

693
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State, Dan.

694
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 2: Maybe I mean the games in still Water. It's hard

695
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: to be to let down in a huge game. You

696
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to kno knock off a top ten

697
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: team once again. Oklahoma State has won this game these

698
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: last three years. This is not like a crazy underdog

699
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: story even though, and you can play this sound for

700
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: me real quick if you have it. Oklahoma State's my

701
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: Yako's home dog of the week.

702
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: The Yackers home dog of the week.

703
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know how we haven't mentioned it, but

704
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: the ultimate tie receiving corps in Tyland Wallace and Tyron Johnson,

705
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: who are who are not huge receivers, And that's who's

706
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: given West Virginia Secondary some troubles this year. If you

707
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: look at what Texas Tech what I mean, Hakeem Butler

708
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: at Iowa State Texas with old Jordan Humphrey and Colin Johnson.

709
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: They've had success against West Virginia. Secondary is still a

710
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 2: very good or at least an improved West Virginia defense.

711
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma State here, not just to cover or

712
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: this four or five point hroh, buddy.

713
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: I have them winning.

714
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: I have them winning at home against West Virginia. I

715
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: like the fight that they showed last week against Oklahoma.

716
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: I think they're secret growers right now. Oklahoma State, in

717
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: spite of Mike Gundy having just another dumb week of quotes,

718
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: I am still going with the Pokes here because I

719
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: like Chewba Hubbard and his advancement. I like the corn Dog.

720
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: I love the all taie receiving core.

721
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna be honest here. Yeah, it would

722
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: be a waste of time to try to dive too

723
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: deeply into the matchups here because this is too high

724
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: powered offenses. This is gonna be a shootout in great

725
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: It's me lovely. It's gonna be a shootout anyway you

726
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: slice it, It's gonna be a shootout. My big bet

727
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: here is that Oklahoma State is spent from bedlam a

728
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: week ago and they come out flat. And when you

729
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: come out flat against West Virginia, West Virginia is gonna

730
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: be fired up for this game. I think they get

731
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: out to a lead and Oklahoma State can't make up

732
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: the ground. I think they win comfortably. I think a

733
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: lot of points. But I'm gonna say fifty one thirty

734
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: eight wes FO. Yeah, a big win, setting up a

735
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: big game in the Big twelve next week.

736
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: Can I ask you for a favor because I've noticed

737
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: something about you. I'm listen, We're gonna go through so

738
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: many games so quickly. You love a good de facto

739
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: national CHAMPI.

740
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

741
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Can we before the season starts go through every team's

742
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: de facto national championship? And also, can we come up

743
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: with a as the not this week, but in the

744
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: last couple weeks of the season.

745
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Can we come up with a.

746
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: De facto college football playoff of four teams playing in

747
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: de facto national championships and see how they do?

748
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: We can try. I mean it might be a John

749
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Nash situation while I'm riding with the chalk pencil on

750
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: the windows. Fine, but I will do it.

751
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: Dan, I want an ear to de facto season that

752
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: we are just going to start up and just imaginary

753
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: stakes across the board.

754
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: That's all I want is Colgate involved in said Earth two.

755
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is one Colgates de facto national

756
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: championship going to Army.

757
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, buddy, Oh my gosh. All right, neve On,

758
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: I guess we disagree again. Moving on eight pm ABC,

759
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at UCF. Now, look, this is not a game

760
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: we usually preview with the others. I don't want to

761
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: take anything away from either of these two teams because

762
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: it's been a really good year. But you're about too. Yeah.

763
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: I also think the fact that we're talking about it

764
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: this early in the show, granted forty five minutes in

765
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 1: speaks to the volume of other games that we've got

766
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: here on Save the Date Saturday. But UCF nine and zero,

767
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: I think eleventh in the College Football Playoff ranking. Cincinnati

768
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: nine and one both are top twenty teams, though they've

769
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: taken very different paths to get there. UCF has the offense,

770
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: the prolific offense, Mackenzie Milton, everyone knows about the offense.

771
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's played really sound defense. I think in this game,

772
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: UCF has way too much offense, but also more defense

773
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: than you'd expect. Now Here is my one disclaimer. Don't

774
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: get too excited about me saying that because I used

775
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: I believe the exact same logic when I locked up

776
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: UCF minus five. I want to say against Memphis earlier

777
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: this year, one by one. Yeah, they want thirty one

778
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: to thirty. So I'm gonna go back to the well here.

779
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hope that second time as a charm. The

780
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: UCF defense top fifty in the nation. Not great, but

781
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: better than you think. I like them there at home.

782
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: They're a seven and a half point favorite. I think

783
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: they win by thirteen going away. Wow, Okay, I disagree.

784
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: I should also point out there is no de facto

785
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: national championship on the line in this time.

786
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: None here.

787
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: Ucfs will be if they run the table and get

788
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: a big Bowl game. Yeah, I think you hit everything fine.

789
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: UCF has an awesome offense, they generate big plays, they're complete.

790
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: The defense is actually improved from where they were last year.

791
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati just an incredible defense ahead of schedule with everything

792
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: Luke Fickle has had to do with the Bearcats. They

793
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: do give up some big plays through the air. I

794
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: think that's not great, but with the energy in this building,

795
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: I think their defense will travel. Game day is going

796
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: to be there. I'm going to take the points here.

797
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm actually going to say UCF thirty three since he

798
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: twenty seven. I think UCF has played tight at times

799
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: this season. We've seen them let teams back into games

800
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: after jumping out to comfortable leads. I think Cincinnati comes

801
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: back and doesn't win, but makes it a game.

802
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take the points. We disagree. Eight pm

803
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: on Longhorn Network if you have it, or an illegal

804
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: stream somewhere else on twitch dot com. Iowa State at Texas.

805
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: The line here is is three points in favor of

806
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: the long Horns again. State of play here is that

807
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Iowa State is one five in a row after losing

808
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: at the end of September to TCU. I lost that. Yeah,

809
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: it looks good, don't look too closely at it, looking

810
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: a little worse and worse by the week. But it's

811
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: a different team now. So I think we're all excited

812
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: about Iowa State and Brock Purdy in the way they've

813
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: looked since. And then on the flip side, we've got

814
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: we've got Texas. Let's take a good look at Texas. Dan,

815
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: let's say a good hard look. Let's take a good

816
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: hard look at the long horns. Okay, Sam Ellinger, Lil

817
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey, we like him, right, Yeah, for sure. How

818
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: do you feel about the defense? Though?

819
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: A lot better early hunting the season than I do.

820
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Now.

821
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: You can move the ball in this Texas defense, especially

822
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: through the air. They've had to deal with injuries, they've suspensions.

823
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 2: It has been a step back year, losing a couple

824
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: a pretty big piece they lost.

825
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: They lost pieces. But look the S and P plus

826
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: rough The S and P plus says that Texas has

827
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: the sixty ninth best defense in the country. I mean,

828
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: it's nice, but it's just tough to be impressed if

829
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: you play the season in reverse, knowing what we know now.

830
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: You hold TCU to sixteen points, that ain't that impressive.

831
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: You hold USC to fourteen points in retrospect, that isn't

832
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: that all isn't that impressive? So let me ask you

833
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: in a game like this, which trust, let me do

834
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: that again. Sorry, holding USC to fourteen points isn't all

835
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: that impressive either. So I feel like we're at a

836
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: point where it's Sam Ellenger and Lil Jordan Humphrey against

837
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: the world. And then on the flip side, we've got

838
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: at Iowa State team that just feels like they play

839
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: really solid team football. They're always up every week. Is

840
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: there to facto national championship? I am inclined to go

841
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: Iowa State outright here, even though the game's on the

842
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: road at night. I'm taking Iowa State outright and lock

843
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: it up luck of the week. I'm scared to pull

844
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: the trigger on the lock. But Iowa State's got more momentum.

845
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: They play better team football. I think it's a higher

846
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: scoring game, but I think I trust Iowa State more.

847
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, like thirty five, thirty eight to thirty

848
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: five Iowa State.

849
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Iowa States. Is Iowa say the best not bad.

850
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Team in the country, Oh, definitely, yeah.

851
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: I think I think they're right there, and Matt Campbell

852
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: has done an excellent job. There's a ton of buy

853
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: in from this team. I think they have one of

854
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: the best five or six receivers in the country. And

855
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: Keem Butler, who was weirdly not a Bolittannikoff finalist. I

856
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: think that was a huge oversight. Texas coming off of

857
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: a couple of emotional games. You know, the end of

858
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: the West Virginia game obviously didn't go the way they

859
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: would have liked to. They almost let Texas Tech back

860
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: into last week game. And I think there is something

861
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: just aggressively competent and dependable about Iowa State right now

862
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: with brock Party, he plays fearlessly Texas. For as much

863
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: as the defense has been disappointing these past few weeks,

864
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: they are And I look at the points per drive

865
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: offensively in defense, so offense minus defense, their net points

866
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: per drive is the closest in the Big twelve to zero,

867
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: which means they're consistently a toss up team. They you know,

868
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: as much as they put on the table, they take off.

869
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: So I like this to be a close game. But

870
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: I think Iowa State wins this one by a field goal,

871
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: maybe for US a big turnover late. So twenty seven

872
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: to twenty four, give me the Clones.

873
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: We're going to go rapid fire through a bunch of

874
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: games here. All right, I'm getting into my like squat position.

875
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: Here we go. But I first want to ask you

876
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: one final question on this game to tie it up. Yeah,

877
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: this is something that may have been unthinkable to ask

878
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: about three years ago. Okay, is Matt Campbell a better

879
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: coach than Tom Herman.

880
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: Whoa oh, both with Iowa State ties. So it's so,

881
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: if this hypothetical was, if I were to have a

882
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: mid to high level tier program, who would I rather hire?

883
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

884
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: I think right now it's Matt Campbell because we there's

885
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: something unknown about him, that is, you know, you have

886
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: that hope, you have that that tantalizing what if. Whereas

887
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: with Tom Herman, we know he has all the resources

888
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: in the world. We think Texa is moving in basically

889
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: the correct direction. But you know, there are some questions

890
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: that linger. So I'm gonna say Matt Campbell.

891
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: Over the last two years, the answer is yes.

892
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Is it too late tie to rename week twelve? De

893
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: facto super Bowl Saturday?

894
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: We're going with save the date. We agreed on save

895
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: the date. I know maybe next week will be to

896
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: facto Super Bowl Saturday. Okay, all right, you're ready for

897
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: rapid fire in the squatting position.

898
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm in squatting position, I mean still standing, but I

899
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: have a good center of gravity.

900
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: Twelve pm, ABC, Ohio State at Maryland Point spread here

901
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: open at sixteen and a half. It's down to fourteen

902
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: and a half, which means, yes, people are betting on Maryland. Here, Dan,

903
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: who do you got?

904
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points, even with the spread

905
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: coming down. Second straight road game for Ohio State. Maybe

906
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: body blow Cassim Hill tragically tore the other acl that

907
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: he hadn't torn before. But I do like Anthony McFarland

908
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: to at least help possession with Maryland taking the points.

909
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: Maryland lost by twenty one against Michigan, they lost by

910
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: twenty one against Michigan State, they lost by twenty three

911
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: against Iowa. How now will they be within fourteen of

912
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I'm not rooting against it. I just do

913
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: not get the logic. I say, Ohio State forty five

914
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: twenty one and lock it up. Wow of the week. Yeah.

915
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: Moving on twelve pm on Fox.

916
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 2: Wait, is this Maryland's to facto super Bowl?

917
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: Though? No, no, disagree? Maybe I don't know. Twelve pm Fox,

918
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Michigan State at Nebraska two points. Here is the spread

919
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: in favor of visiting Michigan State. Who do you got?

920
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Michigan State. They've been weirdly better away

921
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 2: from East Lansing. Granted, yes, a lot of their biggest

922
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: games have been in East Lansing. This is Nebraska's de

923
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: facto Super Bowl yep, last home game of the year

924
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: and an opportunity to make a big statement going into

925
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: the off season. I just I'm going Sparty by seven.

926
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to fact those Super Bowl champions here. Let's

927
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: go Nebraska outright, big home win. Wow, let's do it.

928
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Why not twelve pm on the ACC Network. Does anyone

929
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: have the ACC Network?

930
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: By the way, So the ACC Network, I think is

931
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: like a local chance a different channel, and is it

932
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: like Jefferson Pilot Sports sort of, It's like if you

933
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: look up ACC network, it's going to be that whatever

934
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: channel shows like the Jerry Lewis telethon or Old Old

935
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: I Love Lucy episodes like a local Allen Town channel,

936
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: epal Access programming.

937
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: They they sort of yeah, syndicate Pittsburgh at Wake Forest.

938
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: Pitt is a six point favorite.

939
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: Dan Okay, it feels low. Although Wake beat NC states

940
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go pit by fourteen. I think that running

941
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: game travels and it scares me.

942
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: Wake is ninety first against the run in the nation,

943
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: which is not nearly good enough to win this game

944
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: or cover the spread. So I want the Panthers, even

945
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: though the game is on the road. Moving on three

946
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: thirty CBS Missoo at Tennessee point spread here six points

947
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: in favor of Missouri. Dan. I am spooked because I

948
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: can't figure out Missoo. Big time blind spot for me,

949
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: in particular, that Florida game is gonna haunt me all season.

950
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: I thought Florida was gonna kill Missouri and it went

951
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: the complete opposite direction. So my inclination here was to

952
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: take Tennessee. But I'm gonna go against my initial gut

953
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: because I'm so wrong on Miszoo, and I'm gonna say

954
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Missouri wins.

955
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: It covers, yeah, initially in Tennessee just because of what

956
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: I saw last week from them out of Kentucky. But

957
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: Kentucky's offense is bad. Miszoo's offense is pretty good. I'm

958
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: gonna go on Missoo here by a touchdown.

959
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: They cover ten thirty CBS Sports Network, San Diego State

960
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: at Fresno point spread here fifteen. I'm gonna go San

961
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: Diego State. I feel like I've gone San Diego State

962
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: about three or four separate times this season. They have

963
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: not let me down, even though the defense has maybe

964
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: underperformed where it was earlier in the year. I think

965
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: Fresno a week off that loss now to Boise, they

966
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: come back home, they look sluggish, and San Diego State

967
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: keeps it within the spread.

968
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: Could not disagree more aggressively. I think Fresno wins this

969
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: game by three touchdown. San Diego State's offense. You mentioned

970
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: the defense, but their offense is atrocious. They scored sixteen

971
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: points against San Jose State. San Jose State might be

972
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: the worst FBS team we have short of Yucon So

973
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't think San Diego State's pass defense be enough

974
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: against the Fresno State team that throws the ball.

975
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: Oh well, and can give me the Bulldogs ten thirty

976
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: ESPN Arizona at Washington State. The Koogs are a ten

977
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: point home favorite. Is there a look ahead effect here

978
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: with the Apple Cup on deck for Washington State?

979
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they beat Colorado on the road

980
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: in a trap spot. They have the Apple Cup next week.

981
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: You might as well play the sound if you have

982
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: it on our board.

983
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh, look at that sandwich. I'm so hungry. I'm so hungry. Oh,

984
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: possible let down look ahead sandwich?

985
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Here, possible let down look ahead Sandwich because Arizona does

986
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: generate some big plays on the ground. Washington State actually

987
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: their defense has been okay, a little disappointing at times.

988
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: I just think it's a bad matchup for Arizona. So

989
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like teams that are two dependent

990
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: on big plays. I have Wazoo by seventeen here.

991
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: I've got Wazoo. I don't think Zona is good enough

992
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: against the pass. No, not anywhere close. Ten thirty PAC

993
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: twelve Network, Arizona State at your Oregon duck. Your Oregon

994
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: Duck's a four point favorite. Dan who you got?

995
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why that is? ASU is I mean,

996
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: if not for a couple of early season slip ups,

997
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: they've been good. Somebody tweeted us about EO. Benjamin and

998
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: Nikhil Harry being the best running back wide receiver duo

999
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: in the country. I can't with authority say that, but

1000
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: they're in that conversation. They've come along really nicely. The

1001
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: USC win on the road was a nice little statement

1002
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: for them. I have ASU by ten here. Oregon is

1003
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: better at home. They didn't look particularly good at home

1004
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: against UCLA a couple of weeks ago. On offense, a

1005
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: lot of those points were generated with defense and special teams.

1006
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: They're just too bad and too stubborn at adjusting. So

1007
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take ASU here to win by ten.

1008
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ASU. We agree, We agree, and I

1009
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: probably won't watch much of this game. I shouldn't, all right,

1010
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to take another pass through here and get

1011
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: some games that I missed the first time. Around twelve twenty,

1012
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: We've got NC State at Louisville. Louisville, of course notable

1013
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: because they lost their coach. Fifteen points. NC State is

1014
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: the favorite here. Do you have any reason to back

1015
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Louisville in this game?

1016
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: They might be super happy not to deal with Patrino

1017
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 2: or anybody even remotely associated with Bobby Patrino. That seems

1018
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: to be a weight off of people's backs when that happens.

1019
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say NC State it's too late.

1020
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: Agree. Three point thirty fox USC at UCLA. This is

1021
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: a very big game for Clay Hilton. If Clay Hilton

1022
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: does not win this game, pretty good chance USC is

1023
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: not going to a bowl game, and there I think

1024
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: will be renewed cries for a new head football coach.

1025
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: UH at Southern cal So three and a half points

1026
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: is the favorite? Who do you got? Yeah?

1027
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: These two teams sort of meeting in the middle of

1028
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: UCLA overachieving at times in USC underachieving most of the time.

1029
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: And you know it's a field goal. I'm going to

1030
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: take USC here. I think ultimately they are going they

1031
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: can beat up on deeply flawed teams, and while UCLA

1032
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: is promise thing, I still think they're deeply flawed.

1033
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take the Trojans here. I'm gonna go Ucla.

1034
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly has them going in a good direction. Give

1035
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: me Ucla. What the hell we have?

1036
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: By the way, we have what a double Homer's podcast

1037
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 2: coming this week?

1038
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: That is correct?

1039
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so what I we do? You want to say?

1040
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: The teams?

1041
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, We've got USC and Clemson, right, that is correct?

1042
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: Hell yeah? Moving on three point thirty ESPN Miami at

1043
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech Miami. Somehow a three and a half point favorite.

1044
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: We've got two ships here seemingly going in the wrong direction,

1045
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: both going in the wrong direction. So I'm happily going

1046
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: to take the points. And I like the fact that

1047
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech's at home. Fair enough? Is this the de

1048
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: facto Super Bowl? For Virginia Tech. No, they've got Virginia

1049
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: on deck. Where where's that game? Though? The Commonwealth Cup

1050
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: I believe would be.

1051
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Commonwealth Cup is at home? Okay, never mind?

1052
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, who do you got? Oh?

1053
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: God, somebody has to win, right, Yeah, I guess I'll

1054
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: take Tech there at home.

1055
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: And I just I hate my these offense. Three point thirty.

1056
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Boston College at Florida State two points. Boston College is

1057
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: the favorite here. What a world we live in? I know.

1058
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Anthony Brown's gonna play in this game,

1059
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: So I'll take Florida State at home to win a.

1060
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: Close I'm gonna take Florida State. Four pm. Indiana at

1061
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Michigan Michigan, a four touchdown favorite.

1062
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: That Michigan is just built to slowly just stomp teams.

1063
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna they're gonna win easily, So I'm

1064
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna take the Wolverines here.

1065
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking points because possible look ahead spot with the

1066
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: higher state on deck, Okay, but not because there's any

1067
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: flaw in Michigan. Michigan solid seven point thirty Pack twelve Network,

1068
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: Stanford Cal two points. Stanford is the favorite, here, big

1069
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: rivalry game. Uh and Cal has been playing just incredible

1070
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: defense the back cons of the season, So I like

1071
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: what Cal's doing. I don't think they win this game.

1072
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Stanford.

1073
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: I had to look up Stanford and make sure they

1074
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: weren't like eight and two and it's still gonna somehow

1075
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: go ten and two this year because when I looked,

1076
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, could they and none? Then I realized,

1077
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 2: now they've lost four times, I believe, So I'm gonna

1078
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: take Cal here as well. They're a home dog with

1079
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: a really good defense. I'm not going to tell you

1080
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: that Strawberry Canyons a hostile place to play, but I'm

1081
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: gonna go with those the role on you bear types.

1082
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: All right, what did I miss? Surely the facto Super Bowl?

1083
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: What did I miss?

1084
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: Duke is getting twenty eight points at Clemson.

1085
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: Oh God, Duke.

1086
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: Another candidate for the best not bad team in the country.

1087
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I gotta go Clemson there. Clemson has been playing really,

1088
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: really well.

1089
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't finishing drives, had some issues last week

1090
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: against Boston College. I'm gonna take Duke to cover here,

1091
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: but by you know, something like thirty eight ten or

1092
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: not I guess that would be the push.

1093
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Thirty eight to thirteen. Okay, what else.

1094
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: You got South Florida Temple.

1095
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: Give me Temple. I love those owls. Wisconsin Dogs at Purdue. Really,

1096
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: four and a half points must be going with King

1097
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: Cone at quarterback.

1098
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: I would imagine, So let me verify this. But yeah,

1099
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: that is what a world this has turned into. I'm

1100
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: gonna go I'm gonna go four and a half point dogs.

1101
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: No, I can't go Wisconsin. God, I can't go Wisconsin,

1102
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: not with I'm gonna go Purdue. We can't. We can't

1103
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 1: set up shop in the cone zone time. That's right.

1104
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: Virginia going to Georgia Tech Tech favor by about a touchdown,

1105
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: six and a half, seven points.

1106
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: What if we go cone of uncertainty like a hurricane.

1107
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: That's not bad. Okay, what was the game?

1108
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 2: Virginia Georgia tach Georgia Tech favor about six and a half.

1109
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh God, Virginia, I'm.

1110
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: Taking Tech at home. H Minnesota favored by one against

1111
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: your Big Ten West champions Northwestern. I am like, this

1112
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: is all I want out of this weird, mushy season.

1113
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: I want Northwestern to win the Big Ten West going

1114
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: six and six because it's on the table.

1115
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Northwestern here.

1116
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: God, what a weird game Minnesota. By the way, I

1117
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: believe and maybe I'm wrong. Do they lose to Illinois

1118
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: and then beat Perdue in successive week?

1119
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: It sounds right, This sounds right.

1120
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're one hundred percent beating Northwestern. That's

1121
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: just the mushy world. One more time and then I

1122
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: have here UAB, Texas A, and M the Blazers quietly

1123
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: an excellent year, seventeen point dogs at the at the

1124
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: hornet's nest, that is Kyle Field. I'm gonna go any

1125
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: reason to believe in UAB and Texas A and M overlooking.

1126
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: This is definitely uab's de facto. Now, yeah, let's go.

1127
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 1: Let's go UAB here, You Ab, you have. I'm gonna

1128
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: take textas A and M here. All right?

1129
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: Another one Missippi State hosting Arkansas. Do you have any

1130
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 2: strong thoughts about this Mississippi State.

1131
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: Let's go, Joe Moo.

1132
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go Misssippi State here as well.

1133
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna get on the scoreboard. It's been a rough

1134
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: year for this Arkansas team, especially on offense.

1135
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to go.

1136
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with a nice day for

1137
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: Mississippi State's offense. They've been few and far between, and

1138
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: even a nicer day perhaps for Adam A Mean's stomach

1139
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: because he's calling this game for ESPN. It's a nooner

1140
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: and here's what he's going to be eating on his voice.

1141
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: Meal.

1142
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: Hi friends, Adam Amin here with your solid verbal voice. Meal,

1143
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: not gonna lie to you. Not a whole ton to

1144
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: play for with Mississippi State and Arkansas. But it is

1145
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: my first trip to Davis Wade Stadium. I've been to

1146
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: Starkfilm many times before, though, so I know my spots.

1147
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: Let's start with something you would expect. Great barbecue in Starkville, Mississippi.

1148
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: The Little Dewey excellent barbecue, and I highly recommend the

1149
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: fried catfish and the fried green tomatoes.

1150
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: Good rule of thumb.

1151
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 3: The further south you go in Mississippi towards the Delta,

1152
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: the better the catfish. Something you may not expect in

1153
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: SEC country. Go to a place called strom Bowlie's. You

1154
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 3: should get the strom Bowlie, preferably the Brooklyn's Bowlie, or

1155
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: get the old main Calzone. I'm not telling you that

1156
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: you're going to feel like you're at an authentic Italian place.

1157
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that the food is good. I

1158
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: highly recommend those two items, but the main reason to

1159
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: go to Stromboli's is the cookie dough bites. Just think

1160
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: about that for a second. Cookie dough bites. Those are

1161
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: my two spots in Starkville, Mississippi. We start off your

1162
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 3: college football Saturday on ESPN with Arkansas and Mississippi State.

1163
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: Until then, this has been your solid verbal voice.

1164
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: Meal Ah, there you go.

1165
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: Should also mention Thursday is Tulane and Houston and Friday

1166
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: is Memphis SMU and there will be a combined one

1167
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven points in those games. So I

1168
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 2: would recommend, as it's probably getting a little bit chilly

1169
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 2: where you live, make a big pot of soup, maybe

1170
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: some chicken tortillay, some corn and black bean, and watch

1171
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: some offensive football and ty yeah quick favor, yes please anything?

1172
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: Will you drop that big stanky teaming ten tit dilating

1173
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: drum and five.

1174
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: Whoo Okay, let's start this off in style. Colgate nine

1175
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: to oh traveling to Army. The Cadets are eight and two.

1176
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: Army is an eleven point home favorite, Dan. This is

1177
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: a tester for both teams only eleven points.

1178
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: Who do you got ty? You know I'm going with

1179
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: Paul Schaffner's boys on that defense. Yeah, I know, I'm

1180
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: going with Colgate.

1181
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: I think Army is gonna kill him, is what I think?

1182
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: Do you I do? Yeah? Wasn't Art didn't Army lose?

1183
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: Was it?

1184
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen? Who did Army lose to? They lost to

1185
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: a Patrio League team?

1186
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: Right? I think Army is gonna kill Colgate. I hope

1187
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. They struggled with Lafayette last week.

1188
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: Army murdered Fordham last year twenty sixteen. It doesn't they

1189
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: murdered Lafayette twenty fifteen. They lost to Fordham. Recent history

1190
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: of Army losing to a pat League power tie and

1191
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: we'll Colgate to cover here.

1192
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: Ultimately they don't get the job done.

1193
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: But god, those Gators are gonna show out in the

1194
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: Hudson Valley Fordham one and nine.

1195
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we speaking of powers.

1196
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime you can, you can get two teams in

1197
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: combine two and eighteen.

1198
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: I guess for you know ford them? Yeah, I always

1199
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: go against bucked all.

1200
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be celebrating in the streets of Louisbourg.

1201
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: Give me the nellies here.

1202
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: Holy Cross at four and six. At Georgetown at five

1203
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: and five. Where are they playing this game? They're playing

1204
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: this one at the Hornet's Nest. That is multi sport field. God,

1205
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: that's the funniest phrase.

1206
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm going with Georgetown here to get it done in

1207
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: front of that hostile crowd. You know they're gonna be

1208
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: throwing batteries. It's like US Teca tie. Yeah, that's right, okay.

1209
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: And finally, by the way, has an unplayable surface. Right,

1210
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: playable surface, it's like Levi Stadium.

1211
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: Yes. And finally to close it out, to close out

1212
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: the Patriot League season, if we're being honest here, Dan, Yeah,

1213
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: Patriot League games. Now, how is this game not a

1214
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Yankee stadium? Again? I don't know. That was so cool.

1215
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: I was there Lehigh at two and eight versus Lafayette

1216
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: at three and seven. The game is at Lafayette in

1217
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: eastern Pennsylvania. This is the battle of two of our

1218
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: soliverbal college town shirts here, yeah, and family members and

1219
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: family members. I have to go lee High. I'm assuming

1220
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: you have to go Lafayette.

1221
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: I have to tie. This is in my blood. I'm

1222
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: a leopard through and through.

1223
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: You can't.

1224
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: You can't ask me to take the enemy here, the

1225
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: sworn enemy. I know you're married to an engineer mountain hawk.

1226
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: That's right.

1227
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm the son of a leopard. This is this is

1228
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: Montague Capula Territory for the solids.

1229
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta go with Lafayette in the streets snapping

1230
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: our fingers, for sure, that's West Side story. But I

1231
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: dig it all the same.

1232
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm going lafaytte big here tie statement win going into

1233
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen for the laps.

1234
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: All right, West Side story based on Romeo and Juliette.

1235
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: I gotta go high. That's true.

1236
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: Okay, we have some We have a couple of questions

1237
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: that I want to get to real quick from Twitter,

1238
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: because I promised the people, let's do it. Do you

1239
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: have a Thanksgiving side that you look forward to with

1240
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: a particular amount of gusto?

1241
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: Cranberry sauce? For me? Is one actually pann or homemade on? No?

1242
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: Hold on one? A is Mama H's pumpkin pie? Okay,

1243
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: best pumpkin not aside, not a side, not a side, okay.

1244
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: But if if that's not a side, then Cranberry sauce

1245
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: I prefer the canned variety that is like eighty five

1246
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: percent sugar and comes formed in an unnatural shape. But

1247
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: that's what I look forward to. I could eat the

1248
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: whole freaking tube of it. You like.

1249
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: You like your canned cranberry, so that's right. Well, do

1250
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: you eat it at all any other day.

1251
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: Of the year? Ummmm, no, but only because it's not

1252
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: really available any other day of the year. I would.

1253
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that. Yeah, you can probably get

1254
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: some artisanal cranberry sauce at Wagmans. I'm sure you can.

1255
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: I go with barbecue pork fried rice, not a traditional side,

1256
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: but my family we eat Chinese food Thanksgiving along with

1257
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: like a Chinese turkey, So barbecue pork fried rice is

1258
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: my answer. My traditional favorite is still It's probably like

1259
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: a broccoli castrole.

1260
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: I love the cheesy broccoli castrole.

1261
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: Is this? I feel like this is a cousin of

1262
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: your de facto Super Bowl love or de facto National championship.

1263
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: Jeremy wants to know do you factor in Senior Day

1264
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: when considered it spreads?

1265
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: I love this question. SR Day Homecoming?

1266
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, listen, it's it's a tough ask

1267
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma State to beat West Virginia.

1268
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: But these seniors, they want to go out and style

1269
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: and here are their parents and friends. Here's the thing.

1270
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: So to peel back the curtain a little bit, we

1271
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: put a Google doc together every week where we list

1272
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: that there's four columns on it. Five columns. I guess, yeah.

1273
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: First is the game time, The second is the network

1274
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: that it's on. Important information. The third column is just

1275
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: who's playing where the game is, then opening line and

1276
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: then current line, and we're you know, we're usually in

1277
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: the ballpark. I'm not gonna lie up. Until very recently,

1278
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: it was a chore for me just to figure out

1279
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: where the damn game was. I had for whatever reason,

1280
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: I would screw it up once a week where I'd

1281
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: get a location wrong. Very basic information for me to

1282
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: now bolt on top of that when it is or

1283
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: isn't homecoming Senior Day? What have you that's too tall

1284
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: of in order to no, I do not factor that in.

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Speaker 1: What do you have on your burger? Tie?

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Speaker 2: This is a great tweet because Brian signed the tweet.

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Speaker 2: It's from Brian Smith and he signed it Brian Smith.

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Speaker 1: Okay on my burger? First off, how do you get

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Speaker 1: your burger cooked. I like my medium. Well I'm a

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Speaker 1: medium guy. I don't like it really that gray in

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Speaker 1: the inside. I go lettuce, your favorite tomato. I like

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Speaker 1: a pickle on there. H like a little bit beer,

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Speaker 1: spear or coins. I like the coins, okay, Sam, preferably

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Speaker 1: a big coin if they if they offer that, and

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Speaker 1: some American cheese obviously or cheddar cheese. Did I say onions?

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Speaker 1: A couple of onions, maybe raw or grilled? Love raw,

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Speaker 1: gotta go raw and I love it raw and a

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Speaker 1: little ketchup and a little mustard. Okay, American cheese.

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Speaker 2: Finally, shredded lettuce, some sort of Thousand Island style burger spread, pickles.

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Speaker 1: Onions, That's fine by me.

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Speaker 2: Next question real quick, Oh there was a really good

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Speaker 2: one here. Okay, Tyler wants to know and we can

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Speaker 2: speak to this with some authority because of your penn statehood.

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Speaker 2: Mississippi State fans are worried about Joe moorehead quarterback. Aside

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Speaker 2: Mississippi State return one of the most talented teams ever

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Speaker 2: in program history. Season feels like a waste is their hope.

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Speaker 2: Patience is wearing thin. Whoa Whoao not even done with

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Speaker 2: season one due to lack of offense slash stubborness, slash

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Speaker 2: recent comments to fan base, and so he attached a

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Speaker 2: longer quote about expectations and goals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, first off, while there was a veteran leaden

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Speaker 1: team for Joe Moorehead down there in Starkville, it was

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Speaker 1: the first year of him implementing his system correct and

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Speaker 1: even at Penn State when they retained the same head

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Speaker 1: coach and brought in a new offensive coordinator, it took

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Speaker 1: like pretty deep into the season for things to take effect.

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Speaker 1: You could imagine the kind of turmoil bringing in a

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Speaker 1: new guy at the top, bringing a new offensive guy

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Speaker 1: beneath it. Like there's a whole lot more turnover taking

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Speaker 1: place at Mississippi State that might meet the eye. So

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Speaker 1: even though you did have a lot of veterans on

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Speaker 1: that team, I think you got to give it time.

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Speaker 1: I really like Keithon Thompson at quarterback. I really like

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Speaker 1: being a playmaker. Yeah, I really like him. He's young,

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Speaker 1: he's coming back. You won't have the same level of

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Speaker 1: experience next season. But I think that that's a guy

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Speaker 1: that I know Joe Morehead can build around. So he's

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Speaker 1: a good coach. Recruiting, I think is going to be

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Speaker 1: the issue. Can you recruit to Mississippi State. It's not

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Speaker 1: quite like recruiting to Penn State up in the northeast.

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Speaker 1: If Joe Morehay can do that, I think schematically he'll

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Speaker 1: be fine.

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Speaker 2: He's recruited well. I don't think that's going to be

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Speaker 2: an issue. I think the big thing to remember is

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Speaker 2: when you bring back that much in the way of

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Speaker 2: experience and talent, but it's an entirely new coaching staff

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Speaker 2: and new schemes on both sides of the ball. You

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Speaker 2: are essentially teaching from scratch, even though the guys have

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Speaker 2: been there, Even though you know you can't really blame

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Speaker 2: talent level, Especially on defense, I think the defense has

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Speaker 2: been superb. It's hard to complain about the job Bob

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Speaker 2: Shoop has done with that defense. I think it's important

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Speaker 2: to remember that this isn't like Joe morehead offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: at Mississippi State, simply sending to head coach like we've seen,

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Speaker 2: whether it was Larry Coker at Miami just keeping it going,

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly at Oregon with Mike Bolotti keeping it going,

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Speaker 2: Dabbo eventually building things at Clemson as he ascended to

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Speaker 2: that position. I think it's important to remember one couldn't

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Speaker 2: really pass the ball, not with what the system that.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you hire Joe Morehead and you pay

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Speaker 2: him the money to run a program, you want him

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: to do things his way. Nick Fitzgerald is not the

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Speaker 2: guy to do things his way long term obviously, and

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Speaker 2: so Mississippi State is not in a position to say

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: Year one was disappointing. On offense. I don't like where

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Speaker 2: this is heading. You have to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more self aware about your place in the SEC West.

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Speaker 2: This is not a takedown of Mississippi State. You just

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: have not earned the right to have immediate high level

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Speaker 2: expectations even returning that level of talent. I agree, So agree,

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Speaker 2: let's make the last question a weird one. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Mike Leach talking about coach Brawls, I saw that, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen, we're doing it a decade ago. So while you

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Speaker 1: search for a new question, let me get this will

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Speaker 1: be our last one. But can you also throw this

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Speaker 1: in there. This comes to us courtesy of Danny, who

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Speaker 1: wants to be this weekend's hopfensive coordinator. He suggests orange

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01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: blossom Pilsner. He says, in honor of college game day

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Speaker 1: coming to my hometown of Orlando. I think this light

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Speaker 1: and mild, dy citrusy pilsner is a great choice that's

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Speaker 1: pretty widely available for purchase. I have not heard of

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Speaker 1: this one, but I have not been looking for it,

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Speaker 1: so I can't speak to whether or not it's available

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: up here. He says, it's easy to drink, reminds you

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01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: of our recently ended summer before the cold, dark winter,

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: and it's one of many great beers to come out

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Speaker 1: of a very weird state that is Danny. So there

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Speaker 1: you go, Orange blossom Pilsner in honor of Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Last question, I like this one because this is not

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Speaker 2: even just de facto national championship. It's a de facto

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01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: it's a question about de facto games with stakes. This

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: comes to us from Dan Savage Live. I don't think

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: it's the actual dance Savage, but that's okay. What's more

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: interesting Buffalo versus NIU. So there's a collision course in

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01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: the mac or Pitt versus Clemson. So that's what the

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01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: ACC Championship is looking like. Wazoo vers Arizona State, they

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: take care of business. Northwestern versus Michigan. Which is is

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01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,520
Speaker 2: it basically is Buffalo and IU the clear.

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Speaker 1: Most interesting It's championship.

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: Because obviously Alabama Georgia has the highest level of talent

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 1: So well, okay, I'm ruling out Wazoo Asu. Maybe it's

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01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: my East Coast bias and DA that's fine. Buffalo and IU,

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: though we will talk about it, I promise you is

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01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: not on the same scale the two for me that

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: have secret flesh. Dan, if you want to bring this

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: full circle, I'd say Pitt and Clemson because Pitt has

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Speaker 1: shown weird fight this year. They also could get annihilated

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Speaker 1: in that game.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna get vaporized.

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01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: Annihilated in that game because they love to run and

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01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 1: Clemson will kill their running game. Or Northwestern Michigan because

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: you might remember Northwestern played Michigan pretty tight a couple

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01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: weeks ago.

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01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: I actually do think it is Wazoo Asu. And this

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01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: is why the stakes of that game would mean that

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01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: Washington State would have finally gotten over the Washington Hump.

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01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: It would be Leech's first win over Chris Peterson. It

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: means Arizona State in year one of herm Edwards has

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01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: won the PAC twelve South and has the opportunity to

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 2: go to a New Year's six game Year one Arizona

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Speaker 2: State HERM Edwards winning the Pac twelve. Also, there's just

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 2: like there's Gardner Minshew, there's Nikhil Harry. I think there

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01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: is in terms of weird entertainment, Wazoo Arizona State is

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01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: my answer.

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Speaker 1: And let me close out with this just to just

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: to keep things interesting on an otherwise maybe boring in

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Speaker 1: dull week, Speaking of conference championship week, what if Northwestern

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: were to knock off Michigan one week after milit knocks

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: off Ohio State. Michigan see you later. What if Alabama

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: knocks off Georgia very probable, Georgia two losses, see you later.

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: What if Oklahoma loses one of their two games? What

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01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: if they split with West Virginia. Both teams now have

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01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: two losses. What if Washington State loses to Arizona State.

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01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: What if then all those teams lose? Who gets that

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: final playoff spot?

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: So that we have Michigan beating Ohio State and losing

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 2: to Northwestern. Right, so Ohio State has two losses.

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01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: Yep, everybody is two losses in that scenario, I.

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: Would one time put UCF in ahead of LSU, because

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01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: LSU is disqualified per my own rules and regulations. You

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01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: get shut out, you're out of any playoff considerations. So

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 2: you're asking me to choose between undefeated, potentially undefeated UCF

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01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: and then a bunch of two loss teams including Michigan, Georgia, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: West Virginia. Who I mean, who would win the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve Championship?

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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: I guess whoever won the game last.

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: Because I think a two loss Oklahoma team probably is

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: a better shot than two lost West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's a very strange, like I

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01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: guess you have to go Utah State, right, friends, No,

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: I guess Utah very high in in put in Colgate?

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: Would I would?

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01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: In that scenario, I would probably put in the Big

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 2: twelve champ.

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,480
Speaker 1: If you're looking for chaos, there's your chaos.

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01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: I would probably put in the two loss Big twelve

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: champ and ahead of LSU and ahead of UCF.

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01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: Seven two loss teams and UCF.

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01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: Because Northwestern eliminates the Big Ten.

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01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: I can't.

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: I just can't put in Michigan or Ohio State with

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: two losses and neither one of them winning the conference.

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Speaker 2: So all right, fun show, Washington State out there now? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess Big twelve Champ or UCF. I'd have to

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Speaker 2: see the style points fun show. Thanks for bearing with us.

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