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Speaker 1: The city is One Bills Live, presented by Called Light

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Speaker 1: of Health. You are darn tutin. It's One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. Steve Tasker with you on a Guesday as

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Speaker 1: we continue to prepare for the twenty twenty three NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft seventeen days. Bruce Leavage. That's right, and there is

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Speaker 1: a trade that has already taken place involving a draft choice.

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Speaker 1: The draft choice is not as a active is the

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Speaker 1: player that was moved Steve. Former third overall pick in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty draft, Jeff Okuda, cornerback of the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: is now an Atlanta Falcon, and all it took for

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Speaker 1: the Falcons to acquire him was a fifth round draft choice. Amazing. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know that Okuda was hurt earlier in his career,

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Speaker 1: but the last year plus he's been healthy, He's performed.

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Speaker 1: He's an uber talented player. My only suspicion here, Steve,

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Speaker 1: is the Lions did not want to undertake talking long

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Speaker 1: term contract extension with Jeff Okuda and said we'll ship

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Speaker 1: him out now. We signed Cam Sutton in free agency.

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Speaker 1: We signed Emmanuel Moseley in free agency from San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: so we have two guys that have played the position.

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Speaker 1: We can line those guys up and go, let's move

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Speaker 1: on from Ocuda. But for a for a guy that

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Speaker 1: was the third pick in the draft, if he's the

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Speaker 1: third pick in the draft, here's what it means for

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Speaker 1: those of you who don't listen to us regularly. If

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Speaker 1: you're the third pick in the NFL draft, you're an

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Speaker 1: elite athlete. You are better at every sport you've ever

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Speaker 1: picked up because you're just that much better than everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when when you're at the top of

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Speaker 1: the draft like that, particularly at corner in the NFL. Brownie,

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Speaker 1: you know what those guys do. They're sub four four guys,

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Speaker 1: they're big, strong, they got long. I mean, they're just

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Speaker 1: off the charts athletically. So whatever it is about him

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Speaker 1: that didn't work out in Detroit, whatever he has not

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Speaker 1: done to sell them on his ability to play long

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Speaker 1: term at that spot, or maybe they just don't want

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Speaker 1: priority list, I don't know. Or maybe it's something about

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Speaker 1: coaches something off the field. Back like that, they're getting

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Speaker 1: rid of a Steve. On our most recent podcast, Bills

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Speaker 1: by the Numbers, we discussed this surplus value in the

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Speaker 1: draft usually peaks between pick nine and twelve. It's very

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Speaker 1: hard for those early picks to live up to give

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Speaker 1: you surplus value in comparison to veterans at their position

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Speaker 1: in the league. And I think Okuda would be a

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Speaker 1: representative of this fact. As the analytics experts point out.

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Speaker 1: It was a very interesting discussion. Go check it out

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Speaker 1: at Bills by the Numbers on any podcast platform you

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Speaker 1: listen to. Because for the first two seasons, Okuda was

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Speaker 1: injured a lot. He only played nine games his rookie season,

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Speaker 1: only one game in twenty twenty one. Now he played

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Speaker 1: fifteen games last year. But the guy's got two career

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Speaker 1: interceptions in what amounts to twenty five career games two

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Speaker 1: say that's not living up to the expectation. It's not

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Speaker 1: Upwards of twenty plus million bucks and well as Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his rookie contract four years, thirty three and a half million,

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Speaker 1: twenty one of which he got when he signed, right,

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Speaker 1: So he's not that expensive. Right this year, he only

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Speaker 1: the Falcons, they say for a five, the risk is

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Speaker 1: supremely low here, but to try him out if he

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Speaker 1: if he booms with us, well then we'll worry about

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Speaker 1: signing him in the off season to an extension. But

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Speaker 1: and all we had to do was give up a five.

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Speaker 1: I'd do that in a second, wouldn't you? And you

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Speaker 1: and when if he comes back and you want to

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Speaker 1: sign him to long term deal, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: break the bank. His marketability on the open market is

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Speaker 1: that's all the better. You know, the fifth round draft

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Speaker 1: It takes some stones for a GM and a coach

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Speaker 1: it may. I'll be his pick. Nevertheless, his pick, and

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Speaker 1: finally getting your feedback under you. You have one interception. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it is not fitting of the third

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Speaker 1: I don't have it like the GM brand Holmes in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: don't really need this guy. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: no problem refortifying the roster with talent in Oh, by

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Speaker 1: he's the quintessential example. Now they start thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: He and you chew on it. What's going on and

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Speaker 1: what could have gone wrong. It's really difficult for a

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Speaker 1: the beginning, if you're a top five pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: you are an elite athlete. And what do elite athletes

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Speaker 1: that's that's the crux of this is more you think

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Speaker 1: making that pick. They were foolish, right, and you gotta

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Speaker 1: You know. I think Arthur Yeah, I think Arthur Blank

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Speaker 1: Now the problem is they claim they're going with Desmond

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Speaker 1: clear of that. That's why they're spending money like they got. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right is not the right analogy. You got the thirty

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Speaker 1: they're socking money away. They're cash they're cash rich now

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Speaker 1: The money's still there. So now they get to this offseason,

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Speaker 1: Pickett still thrown to him. Not Kenny Pickett. Um, who's

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Speaker 1: the guy in Atlanta? Alley Desmond Ritter is still thrown

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Speaker 1: for now. You know they have the eighth pick. I'm

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Speaker 1: I would who's surprised who's playing quarterback in Tampa? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's your favorite. It's Baker. May see. Well they

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Speaker 1: might take one too. They're at nineteen, they may move up.

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Speaker 1: The only the thing about it is, and this is

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Speaker 1: the amazing part. And I get it, he was injured,

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Speaker 1: but Matt Stafford comes back and if he's even half

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Speaker 1: of what he was, he's still a top three guy

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Speaker 1: in that. I just think the top half of Round

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Speaker 1: one is going to be absolutely off the chain bonkers

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Speaker 1: because you've got all these teams that are so hard

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Speaker 1: up for a quarterback. It is gonna be a zoo.

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Speaker 1: It is gonna be the NFC if you get if

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Speaker 1: you don't think the coverage is gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: keep up with, it's gonna be fine. Right, They'll be

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Speaker 1: going to commercial breaks saying we gotta bust out. Um.

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Speaker 1: If you could get a young Safe Richardson comes out,

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Speaker 1: or Bryce Young or CJ. Stroud comes out. Carolina grabs

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Speaker 1: the guy they want. CJ. Stroud comes out, and CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud turns into Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert or a mix thereof. Carolina Panthers are the team

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Speaker 1: to beat for the foreseeable future in that in that

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Speaker 1: division and that conference. They got because they're not in

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Speaker 1: the same division with Jalen Hurts and Philly and Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott and the Cowboys. They you know, they're always just

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Speaker 1: trying to get out of their own way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you go right, poom, Tampa Bay, New Orleans and Atlanta. Well,

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Speaker 1: but that's why I think Atlanta is interesting at pick eight.

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Speaker 1: And don't think for a second what I'm saying is transform.

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Speaker 1: Don't think for a second that Carolina, in making that

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Speaker 1: trade from nine up to one with the Bears, did

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Speaker 1: not say to themselves, Atlanta is in front of us,

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Speaker 1: They're in our division. We're going to the top of

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Speaker 1: this board. We're getting the guy that we want, and

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Speaker 1: if we pick right, we're sitting pretty for the next

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Speaker 1: five years plus in our Divisionsolutely because they get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who maybe who theoretically is elite at a young age,

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Speaker 1: potentially the best of the lone, competitive as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: better than solid as a first second year player, playoff caliber,

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Speaker 1: and then elite as a third year player, and you're

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Speaker 1: building it around him. That's you know, look at Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: look at Kansas City, look at all these teams that

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Speaker 1: did exactly that. Right. But getting back to my point

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Speaker 1: about my concern about that receiver run brings us to

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today. If the Bills look to add

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Speaker 1: lot of us feel is a strong likelihood, where would

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Speaker 1: be the best spot to do so? As you see it,

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Speaker 1: a trading up from twenty seven b staying put and

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Speaker 1: standing pad at twenty seven or see wait until the

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Speaker 1: pick matches the value and it is a balanced poll

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Speaker 1: out of the gate here Steve not a bad pole.

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Speaker 1: Trade up a little over twenty five percent, stand pat

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Speaker 1: a little over twenty five percent, and wait until the

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Speaker 1: pick matches the value forty four percent. That's hard, though,

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Speaker 1: because what happens You got all these we all have

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Speaker 1: these favorite positions. We want him to grab wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: running back, middle linebacker, go down the list. But if

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Speaker 1: the first middle linebacker that matches your pick, what if

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Speaker 1: he comes to like pick two O one? Oof is right, right?

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Speaker 1: But I think this poll in the early going is

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Speaker 1: showing you where fans sit on this thing as much

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Speaker 1: as think about how many calls we've taken over the

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Speaker 1: last month and a half about people that want another

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Speaker 1: receiver for this offense. And yet forty four percent of

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Speaker 1: the people in the poll so far are saying, don't reach,

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Speaker 1: don't overdraft, don't reach for a receiver. We we want

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Speaker 1: one like most. I'm not saying the Bills fans are

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Speaker 1: alone in this because every fan base can point to

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Speaker 1: a guy who you remember when we rafted and that

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Speaker 1: guy and we all got that story, right, Bills fans

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Speaker 1: are like everybody else, and we've got our favorite, and

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Speaker 1: we've got multiple choices for that. Sammy Watkins didn't live

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Speaker 1: up to be in the fourth Marsel Darius, Yeah, John

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Speaker 1: Macargo and the Bills traded up for should we go on?

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Speaker 1: Should we go on? Down? With Dante? Listen, you know

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Speaker 1: eighth overall, you know, so we've all got those stories.

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Speaker 1: So the poll is telling us everybody's like, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: not getting don't sting me with that. Just get a guy.

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Speaker 1: If you get a guy a third rounder and he

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Speaker 1: plays it, it it turns into a nice solid starter. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get what you got get. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's where you find guys like Matt Milano and Taryn

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Gabe Davis. I'm like, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with that. Not easy to land on though all

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Speaker 1: the time. Admittedly it's easier said than done. Yeah, finding

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Speaker 1: the diamond and the rough one. Yeah, yeah, But let

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Speaker 1: us know what you think. If the Bills look to

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Speaker 1: add a wide receiver in this year's draft, which many

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Speaker 1: of us believe they'll try to do, where would be

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Speaker 1: the best spot to do so A by trading up,

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Speaker 1: B by standing pat C wait a little bit later

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Speaker 1: until the pick matches the value. You can tell us

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Speaker 1: at eight O three five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty the toll free number to get

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Speaker 1: on board. Open lines for you, and we are wide

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Speaker 1: open for the next half hour, so feel free to

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Speaker 1: chime in with your thoughts on that subject or hit

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Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet by voting and giving

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Speaker 1: us a reason why we will step aside here, but

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Speaker 1: be back with your phone calls. Next on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Klota Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: One Bill Live as the show. Thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we are talking

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in this year's draft. The poll is there

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Speaker 1: for you to weigh in on if the Bills look

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Speaker 1: to add a wide receiver in this year's draft, where

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Speaker 1: would be the best spot to do so? Trade up

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Speaker 1: from twenty seven, stay put at twenty seven, wait a

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Speaker 1: little bit later until the pick matches the value. Phone

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Speaker 1: lines are open for you at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty and we have open lines currently, so jump on board,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you think, or you can hit

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Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: And we are going to go to the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: now to see what your thoughts are on this very subject.

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Speaker 1: And Shane leads us off tweet sheet brought to you

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Shane says, do whatever you have to do,

545
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: may not be able to go high enough to get

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00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: first wide receiver off the board. But if your guy

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Speaker 1: is there in the early twenties, go get them. And

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Speaker 1: we've seen Brandon Bean be aggressive before, not only in

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Speaker 1: round one, but in other rounds, trading up to get

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Speaker 1: a guy that they cove. It. Did it last year

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Speaker 1: with Kayer Elim, did it with Tremaine Edmonds, did it

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. So it's not like it hasn't happened before.

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Speaker 1: And you and I have talked about this. We could

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Speaker 1: see a small move up the board, maybe two or

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Speaker 1: three spots, but nothing major. But I'll say this too.

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Speaker 1: It usually happened in a year where they had like

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Speaker 1: seven or eight or maybe nine draft picks in the class.

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Speaker 1: They've got six this year. There's not much collateral to spend.

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Speaker 1: What about a player is collateral? Yeah, but might have

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Speaker 1: to come to that. Yeah. And what you do, and

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Speaker 1: what I've understood happens is that, you know, the GM says, listen,

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Speaker 1: look at our roster, give us a couple of choices

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Speaker 1: of guys you would take as compensation, and let us

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Speaker 1: pick the one we can do without, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: M you know, and or you know, make it pick

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Speaker 1: your favorite you know, or whatever. Make the list as

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Speaker 1: long as you want. So, yeah, you can do that

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Speaker 1: a little bit, so you can mitigate it. So you say, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can live without this, you know, we can live

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Speaker 1: without or whatever, a third guard or whatever, but we

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Speaker 1: need the draft pick, right, I get it. Um, but

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Speaker 1: if you really believe that prospect is going to kind

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Speaker 1: of put you over the hump and maybe not only

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Speaker 1: maintain pace in the arms race, but maybe put you

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Speaker 1: a step ahead, maybe you make the move. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that's the way it is, though. I mean, nobody

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Speaker 1: trades up for somebody they don't believe in. That's true.

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Speaker 1: If you the guy that's the guy, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get it. You jump on the table. Stop

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Speaker 1: you're fat. I didn't know. No, I am not letting

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Speaker 1: you draft that other guy. This is the guy that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the you know. That's where you get if

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Speaker 1: there's somebody like that where you got six guys jumping

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Speaker 1: on the table and they're all going, yeah, take him.

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Speaker 1: Oh well. But I think one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: the poll is what it is showing here in the

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Speaker 1: early going, which is a lot of people say stampad

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Speaker 1: until the value matches. The pick you have is because

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Speaker 1: of what we've heard all along about the receiver class,

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Speaker 1: and that is that there really aren't any true alpha

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Speaker 1: male receivers in this class. You don't have a Garrett

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Speaker 1: Wilson type that you feel comfortable taken in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna walk in the door and be your number one.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody like that in this year's class. But if

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Speaker 1: you're in the market for a number two, you can

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Speaker 1: probably get that in the first two rounds here, so

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Speaker 1: or a guy can contribute. You know, one of these

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Speaker 1: couple of these guys, they could play They could play

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Speaker 1: zor X, right, you know, they could also play the slot.

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Speaker 1: They could play the Y as well. So you know

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Speaker 1: they're versatile and like Diggs, you can slide Digs into

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Speaker 1: the slot. It is absolutely no problem. And if you

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Speaker 1: can get a I like that who's little versatile and

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Speaker 1: who can do a couple of things, and you think, okay,

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Speaker 1: and Ken Dorsey says, yeah, we can put him here,

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Speaker 1: here and here, and I can put him and we

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Speaker 1: can get him. You know, thirty snaps a game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But if he's gonna be a guy like like Khalil Shakir,

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Speaker 1: who he's gonna get ten snaps a game. That's a

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Speaker 1: little different when you're drafting around one and round five.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that Khalil Shakir is a five fifth rounder.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about jumping up and getting a guy. You

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Speaker 1: gotta he's gotta be like his field. He's yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: at the end at least every week, well at least

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Speaker 1: by the second half of the season, he's got to

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Speaker 1: be getting, you know, a line share of offensive snaps.

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Speaker 1: So kind of you're in that kind of conversation now, right,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go to the phones and baton. Lead

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Speaker 1: off today is Steve and Orchard Park. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for his Steve? Hey, guys, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of thoughts. I was rolling around with

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Speaker 1: a lot of the you know guys in the draft,

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Speaker 1: particularly the linebackers. I really like Jack Campbell from Iowa.

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Speaker 1: I can't you know, I don't know. I just I

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Speaker 1: love his size. He runs a four to six five,

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Speaker 1: he's six to five to forty somethings, great instincts, He's

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Speaker 1: a tack league machine. I know they got him listed

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Speaker 1: at like forty nine. I think as far as in

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Speaker 1: the country goes. But boy, he looks great to me

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Speaker 1: on film, and I'd like him to get a receiver

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Speaker 1: into second round if if that's what their plan is.

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Speaker 1: But I really, I really like Campbell. I looked at

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Speaker 1: some of the other linebackers and they're good, but his

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Speaker 1: instincts are off the charts. He's got great hands. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what. I just want to know what you

636
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: guys think. And also, Jeff Acuda for a fifth round pick.

637
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: If he doesn't work out, he lost a fifth round

638
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: or if he does, you got a starting corner or so, yeah,

639
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was a great man. You only had

640
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: to pay him a million dollars this year to find out.

641
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: It's like, it's a total steal as far as I think.

642
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: But Steve, you mentioned that you already know that the

643
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: general consensus on Campbell overall is like somewhere in the

644
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: high mid to high forties. So are you a proponent

645
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: of trading out of the first round and getting Campbell

646
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: at proper value or are you you just want to

647
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: get him at twenty seven and then figure out receiver later.

648
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: Well that's a tough one. But you know the problem

649
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: is trading out of the first round. I don't know.

650
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what they'd have to give

651
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: up and so on and so forth. But if they

652
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: just stood painted, what are they seven? And we took

653
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: him at twenty seven? I mean, is it that much

654
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: of her reach? I don't know, because we certainly got

655
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: a huge Hall. And my point is, Chris, that's the

656
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: type of size and speed that McDermott likes for that

657
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: middle position, and he built he does. I would not

658
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: be unhappy if they got Jack Campbell. Don't get me

659
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: wrong at all. I like Jack Campbell. I like Drus

660
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Andrews a little bit better personally, Um yeah, because he's

661
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: also at Sanders, is also a good pass can play

662
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: two positions, and he's every bit. As a matter of fact,

663
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: he's probably a little bit looser athlete than yeah Jack.

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00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: He's better in space than Campbell is I think, um

665
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: with you, Brownie. But that doesn't mean that Jack Campbell

666
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: can't step No. I mean, and I'd be happy if

667
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell can't rush the passer who cares the guy

668
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: can play inside off the ball linebacker pretty well. So yeah,

669
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: there's all of that in that. But those are the

670
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: two guys I'm looking at because after them one six

671
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: five one six five plus, they're both two hundred and

672
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: forty plus pound linebackers, if not two fifty, and they

673
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: both have all these instincts and all this stuff we're

674
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: talking about. After those two guys, everybody else is six one,

675
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: two twenty. You know, they're they're safeties. You know they're

676
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: they're small, undersized guys. Now some of them are four

677
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: four guys. Some of those guys, some of them are

678
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: really fast guys, but they're small. They're like Terrell Bernard guys,

679
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: small instinctive guys, and you know you just drafted one.

680
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: So there you have it. That's why I like those

681
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: two guys too. You know, Jack Campbell, I like him

682
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: because he's a big, tall guy and that's kind of

683
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: what Sean mcdermot's looking at. And we know that from

684
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds and how much he loved him. Sanders is

685
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: that guy as well. I don't know. I think what

686
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: would be the smart if you can do it trade

687
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: down as far as you can and still get him,

688
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: or maybe just a little bit where you feel you're sick,

689
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: and then well as far as you can and if

690
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: you can get another pick in exchange for that, do it?

691
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: You get that pick and another second or another third,

692
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: So now you got seven draft picks instead of just six,

693
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: and you got another chance to get another Matt Milano

694
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: and a Taron Johnson or Gabe Davis with the other pick,

695
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: and then you really then you're really doing well. So

696
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: you get the guy you want throwing another pick, and

697
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: you got a chance at getting an even better guy

698
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: that nobody knows it, who's name nobody knows yet. You know,

699
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson's a kid that got the ball off his

700
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: face at the combine. Yeah, I love that guy. Yeah,

701
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: he's you know what a fourth round pick? What a find?

702
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: You know? So Milano same thing. They drafted Matt Milano.

703
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: Go where's he from? He's Boston Carr. Okay, great. Can

704
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: you imagine where this defense would have been without him?

705
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's amazing. So trade down, grab some

706
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: extra picks, and you got a chance at getting one

707
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: of those guys out of the blue. Let's quickly go

708
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: back to the phones here to John and Jamestown. What

709
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: you got for us? John? Hey, guys, um wide receiver.

710
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: I know long we talked wide receiver. We're usually talking

711
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: about the offensive side, But as far as punt returner,

712
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: kick returner, or special teams, who do you like either

713
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: the you know, first round or later rounds. I know

714
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: we got Hines, but you know, who knows what the

715
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: future holds there? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's right. He

716
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: is under contract for another couple of years, so I

717
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: think they would see him as their primary return man.

718
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I know Deontay Hardy has some experience in that area.

719
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: He's already on the roster as well, So I think

720
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: there's a few ways you can look at that and determine, well,

721
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: do we need to get a receiver who also offers

722
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: us something on special teams. I don't know that it's

723
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: necessarily a priority, and I'm not going to pretend to

724
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: know who in this draft class is ripe with special

725
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: teams return experience. I believe Zay Flowers has some as

726
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: a returner at Boston College. I believe Josh Downs is

727
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: a guy that has some return experience at North Carolina,

728
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: And you know, you can work your way down the

729
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: list from there. It is a plus when a receiver

730
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: prospect brings it to the table, but I don't think

731
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Speaker 1: it's the main impetus for somebody saying, let's take him

732
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: in round one. They're they're drafting a receiver for his

733
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: receiver exploits, not for his respect. That's kind of like gravy.

734
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Speaker 1: But also that you've got Deontay Hardy, you just got

735
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: who's probably got a little punt return in him. And

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Speaker 1: you know that nihiem Hinz can take kickoffs, and I

737
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: think you're covered. Yeah, you're covered both those places. Plus

738
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: they can both do either one and we saw Khalil

739
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: Shakire do some of it. Right. You've got Micah Hide

740
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: who can catch punts and feel them and all that

741
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: stuff when you get down deep. So you've got enough guys,

742
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: and I think the smart way to go And I'm

743
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: not I'm not say anything that Embas doesn't know. I'm

744
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: just saying I think the better way to go personally

745
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: is to spread that responsibility out. Say you've got punts,

746
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: he's got kickoffs, because when you give the guy both

747
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: of them, that's all he can do. You give him

748
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: one of them, then they've got they open. It opens

749
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: up a role on offense or defense for those guys,

750
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: and that's I think that's huge to make sure you

751
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: can maximize that spot certainly, and because there are very

752
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: different skills. Kickoff is much different than punt returning. Punt

753
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: returning is more about decision making. Kickoff is about just

754
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: in its total instincts. You know, a young guy, a

755
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: young eighteen year old high school kid with the ability

756
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 1: can do it. In the NFL kickoffs punts, you gotta

757
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: have a high IQ man. You've got to know what

758
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: you're doing. You gotta know when to fair catch it,

759
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: when to let it drop, when the whole thing. There's

760
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: a whole ton of decision making that goes into this.

761
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Why Andre Roberts was so good as a return guy.

762
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: The guy never made a mistake back there. That's why

763
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde is back there. The guy feels it clean

764
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: and he never makes a mistake, makes sharp. Remember the

765
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: punt return he had in the New England playoff game.

766
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: It's bouncing around, he picks it off and he almost

767
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: goes the distance in a game that you know this

768
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: perfect is that Josh Allen's perfect game. So they're different,

769
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: completely different roles. So it's best, in my opinion, to

770
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: split them up. So it got having a guy like

771
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: Dante Hardy who might be able to do punts and

772
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: give naheem Hinz. Just the kickoff return it opens them

773
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: up to other roles offensively that could also be a

774
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: place where they could make a play. Yeah. One other

775
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: receiver in the class that I saw that I believe

776
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: if I remember right, also has return experience is Tank Dell,

777
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: the receiver out of Houston. So just some options that

778
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: I thought of off the top of my head here.

779
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: Sorry I didn't have more for you, John. We take

780
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: a break here though, and more of your phone calls

781
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: and your tweets on what the Bills do if they

782
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: want to take a receiver. Do they trade up, do

783
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: they stay put at twenty seven or do they wait

784
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: until later for a better value? You let us know

785
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: at eight three five fifty back in a flash here

786
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: on one Bill's line, presented by Collot of Health. It's

787
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. If the Bills look to add a

788
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: receiver in this year's draft, where it would be the

789
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: best spot to do so, you let us know at

790
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: eight three five fifty trade up, stay put, or wait

791
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: until the pick matches the value a little bit later

792
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: on in the draft. And it's not an easy decision

793
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: because we're trying to make it here in a vacuum.

794
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: We're not seeing how the board is going to fall

795
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: obviously on night one, but we thought we'd have a

796
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: little fun with it. See where you kind of came

797
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: in on it. And our poll in the early going

798
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: indicated that a lot of you were fine to wait

799
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: until the pick match the value, even if it meant

800
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: waiting beyond round one, which I found interesting. Almost half

801
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: of the respondents we're like, well, let's just wait till

802
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: the value is right, don't reach for one. And that's

803
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: holding steady at just under forty five percent of the vote.

804
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: Other people are saying about a quarter of year saying

805
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: trade up, and about a quarter of your a little

806
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: bit more almost thirty percent of saying hey, stay right

807
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: where they are, they'll be able to get a good play.

808
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: What do you think at eight oh three oh five fifty,

809
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: which is where we go now to the phones and

810
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: to Mike and Pittsford, what do you got for us? Mike, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I would favor going with the value thing. What I

812
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: would like to see them do is get a receiver

813
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: that has different traits than what they have now. And

814
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: some of these guys that are mentioning, like Addison and stuff.

815
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: I think he's like a Stefan Dave's clone and all that.

816
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: So in my mind and my perfect world, I think

817
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: they need some size and some speed, and I'll play

818
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: who I liked that they can pick up, probably in

819
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: the third round as a kid from Old Miss Jonathan Mingo.

820
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: He reminds me a lot of Eric Moulds. He's about

821
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: six two two twenty. He had surprising speed at the combine,

822
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: and he's kind of rising. He's he's starting to come on.

823
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: He's flying under the radar. But I think that would

824
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: allow you to then take the linebacker in the first round.

825
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't scrow around with trying to trade back. Just

826
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: go get your guy there. In the second round, I

827
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: think they're gonna need to look at defensive tackles because

828
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: this team is going to be hurting for defensive tackles

829
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: in another year with everybody that potentially could be gone,

830
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: and I think they need to develop a stud defensive

831
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: tackle to be a nice spot in the second round. Yeah.

832
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's all good, well and good Mike, But

833
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: as you mentioned yourself, Mingo is rising up boards here late.

834
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: We're hearing a lot of buzz on him. I don't

835
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: think he makes it to the bills a pick ninety

836
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: one in round three. I think he's got a good

837
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: chance to be there in round two, and I'd be

838
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: very happy with him. Greg Cosell alerted us to Jonathan

839
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: Mingo about a month ago. He was high on Mingo

840
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: before anybody else was. And then Steve and I gotta

841
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: look at him. We're like, oh, yeah, I see what

842
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: you're saying. And he does have size, and he ran

843
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: a four to four to six, you know, at six

844
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: two two twenty so not bad. And he's got a

845
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half inch vertical at six two.

846
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: That'll help you in some contested situations. Well, I'll say this,

847
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: the measurables are first round his production. You can argue, well,

848
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: he had one good year of production, which was this

849
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: past year when he, you know, was a full time starter,

850
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: played thirteen games, fifty one catches, eight hundred and sixty

851
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: one yards, five touchdowns. Yeah, okay, if you get it right,

852
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna complain taking him at twenty seven. But he's ranked,

853
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: don't you see on our board. But we're thinking round

854
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: two right, well, fifty nine, Yeah, you think he'll be there?

855
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to. I think he's

856
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: got a chance to. But round three, that right, could

857
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: that be the guy you jump from fifty nine up

858
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: to fifty that's kind of a jump. But yeah, yeah,

859
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not fifty maybe whatever, maybe whoever you want

860
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: and that first at twenty seven and then you get

861
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: or maybe he's the guy that you take. You trade

862
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: down from twenty seven down to thirty three or thirty five,

863
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: you take Jack Campbell or Drew Sayers hopefully, and then

864
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: with the extra pick you can bottle that up and

865
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: move up to getting Mingo. All of that stuff's on

866
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: the table, you know, right, Yeah, I love his athleticism,

867
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: I love the upside of him, but I haven't sat

868
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: down with him and talked to him. Well that's right now.

869
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I will tell you character wise, he was a team captain,

870
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: and we know these Bills love team captain. There's a

871
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: lot in that when they If they sit down and

872
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: talk with him and he's off the charts, the kind

873
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: of guy you know you want as part of the family,

874
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: Well then that that changes things, you know, you move

875
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: him ahead of some other guys. And I get and

876
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: I and I'm I'm totally with you know Mike in

877
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh too. You'd like to see a little bit of

878
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: a different skill set. Yeah, this whole draft class seems

879
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: to be guys. Mingo stands out in it because he's

880
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: six two two twenty. Everybody else is five to eleven

881
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: of buck ninety or less. Well, and the way he's

882
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: most different from a lot of the receivers on Buffalo's

883
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: roster already is he's not known as a separator. He's

884
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: known as a contested ball catcher and a guy that

885
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: is quote unquote open even when he's not open because

886
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: of the size that he offers you. He's a lot

887
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: of the guys on this roster are separators, quick separators

888
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: at that this guy is not, so he would be,

889
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, he would be one of these kids. Is

890
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: doing his own thing. Does that fit with the way

891
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Josh throws it? I don't know. I don't know if

892
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, I don't know, Josh. You know, Josh'll

893
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: throw it anyway, Yeah, Josh doesn't. Isn't a guy who

894
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: throws him openly, Josh? A guy that throws it out

895
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: there and puts it on him. Well, yeah, but think

896
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: about Gay Davis is his second touchdown against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

897
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's right there, and he threw it anyway. He gave

898
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: him a chance. But but you know, Josh is a

899
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: guy who throws it to the guy. He doesn't throw

900
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: it up to an aw Yeah, and I don't know.

901
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you don't need a separator for that. If

902
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: you throw it to an open air, not guy's gonna

903
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: go up and get it anyway, even if he's covered.

904
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: But I get it. But like you say from our conversation,

905
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Mingo's got some question marks that we don't know. Yeah,

906
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: it might be the perfect kind of personality and with

907
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: his athleticism and stuff. And let me say this, separating

908
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: is something you can teach. That's technique or out running.

909
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: You can teach that. You can't teach four two as

910
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: easy as you can teach a guy to make an

911
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: extra step on the cut. I hear you. You can't

912
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: teach six two. So yeah, maybe maybe there is something there.

913
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Break time for us. But when we come back an

914
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: hour number two more draft talk, because we have to

915
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: deal with the latest installment of mock Draft Watch, and

916
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: here to help us do that, we'll be Bills Reporter

917
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: Maddie Glab next here on one Bills Live presented by

918
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio, These one Bills

919
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: Live presented by called Light of Health. All right, our

920
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: number two and it is time to continue our draft

921
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: discussion today here on a Tuesday on one Bill's Live.

922
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: And joining us to do just that is Maddie Glab

923
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: And when she's here, you know what that means. In

924
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: pre draft seasoned draft watch, Draft Watch? What do we

925
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: up to? Seven point zero? Right? Seven point zero? It's

926
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: all I do with my life. No, just Kidd's just

927
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: it's it's the fun thing, the hot topic to talk

928
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: about right now. So we've done seven rounds of mock

929
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: draft watches, and we'll do a few more ahead of

930
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft as we're in the month of April.

931
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: So we've got one hundred and twenty nine tracked so far.

932
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: I've tracked one hundred and twenty nine. We're getting up there.

933
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: I think it's we've done more this year than we

934
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: did last year. The mock drafts just come out so

935
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: early on in the season now, and there's so many

936
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: that come out every single week. We try to attract

937
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: the most legit ones from the biggest names in terms

938
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: of NFL network, ESPN, CBS Sports, the big guys. Because

939
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: anybody can do mock draft right basements, mock draft no.

940
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: So in Mock Draft Watch seven point zero, we tracked

941
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: fifteen mock drafts. Of those fifteen guys, we're starting to

942
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: see a trend here, We're starting to see things shift.

943
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: Of those fifteen, six linebackers were mocked to the Bills,

944
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: three defensive linemen, all of them, in fact, were defensive tackles,

945
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: three wide receivers, two running backs, one offensive lineman. So

946
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: you're starting to see linebackers, wide receivers, and defensive tackles.

947
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Maybe take the scene a little bit as we near

948
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: the end of April. So, of those fifteen, the most

949
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: favorite this time around, Drew Sanders was mocked to the

950
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: Bills four times. The linebacker out of Arkansas, and then

951
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: the wide receiver Jordan Addison out of USC He was

952
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: mocked to the Bills three times. Of the fifteen mock

953
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: drafts tracked, there was one trade. The trade was a

954
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: trade up to number twenty three for Bijean Robinson. Everybody, So, yeah,

955
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: so that would be who's twenty three? Is that Minnesota?

956
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: Or is that I believe it was. Let me see, no, Minnesota.

957
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Is it Seattle Settles twenty Seattles twenty three? Is Minnesota?

958
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: There you go? Okay, all right, all right, So that

959
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: was the latest fifteen. But of the one hundred and

960
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: twenty nine, I think the most interesting thing that we

961
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: can point out here is the favorite name so Bejean

962
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Robinson continues to be a favorite as he continues to

963
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: get mocked to the Bills at number twenty seven. There's

964
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: been some trade ups for Bijean Robinson out of the

965
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: mock drafts that we've tracked, but you're starting to see

966
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: guys like Drew Sanders and Jordan Addison become favorite names.

967
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: They're tied at number being mocked to the Bills the

968
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: fourth most out of one hundred and twenty nine mock

969
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: draft tracks. So Drew Anderson has been mocked to the

970
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Bills eight times, so it is Jordan Addison before those two.

971
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: Bijan is the favorite still at twenty two. O Cyrus

972
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: Torrence has been mocked to the Bills seventeen times, Brian

973
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: Branch nine times, and Drew Sanders and Jordan Addison are next.

974
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's new from the last time I was on,

975
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: So it looks like I think the most interesting thing

976
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: is early on it was o Cyrus Dawrence show Osyrus Daarrence,

977
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, get a guard. And then the Bills

978
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: signed two guards in free agency, and everybody is completely

979
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: off the train now understandably, So an offensive tackle is

980
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of overtaken it as far as picking an offensive lineman, yes,

981
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: twenty seven right, yep. The last time Osirius Torrence was

982
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: mocked to the Bills was March twenty eighth. The last

983
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: time an offensive tackle was mocked to the Bills was

984
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: April third. But offensive linemen in general have not been

985
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: a favorite position, I would say really since mid March,

986
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: early March. So you're starting to see, I would say

987
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: linebackers are really starting to shine in the last two

988
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: mock draft watches that we've released. Yeah, so and this

989
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: they continue to kind of all trend that way. Yes,

990
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: because and just like when you see the whole team

991
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: end their season, it's that since he bis, you think

992
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: that's who they are. And when the Bills make any

993
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of signing, everybody jumps on and says, you know

994
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna oh wow, now they're gonna plus, I don't

995
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: want to give them too much credit. We've said it

996
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: a couple of times today. The Bills have four defensive

997
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: tackles all going into this last year, their contracts up

998
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: after this year. It kind of makes sense that they

999
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: kind of at least get one guy in the draft

1000
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: to give him some depth there going forward after this

1001
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: year's most definitely and Drew Sanders and Jack Campbell, those

1002
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,479
Speaker 1: are the two popular names among linebackers. We really haven't

1003
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: seen too many other linebackers get mocked to the Bills

1004
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: multiple times. That number twenty seven so right, and more

1005
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: often than not, on a lot of top one hundred lists,

1006
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: we've seen Drew Sanders ranked a little bit higher than

1007
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: Jack Campbell. Late first round for Sanders, top half of

1008
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: the second round for Campbell. And as Steve and I

1009
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: have talked about on the show, Sanders is just a

1010
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: little bit better athlete than Campbell. Campbell might have him

1011
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: beat in the instinct department, not that Sanders doesn't have instincts,

1012
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: but Campbell is like rock solid in that area. And

1013
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: I think he's your A plus student. John Campbell's your

1014
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: A plus student. And Drew Sanders is the guy who

1015
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: kills it in gym class, right, But he's not a

1016
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: dumb job. No, he's not. He's not so, but yeah,

1017
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting to see where the delineation is

1018
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: in terms of separation between the two guys that are

1019
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: largely considered the top two middle linebackers in the class.

1020
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't mean Trent Simpson has snuck in

1021
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: here and there as another consideration, though he doesn't match

1022
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: up size wise to those two. But generally we've seen

1023
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: these two guys as the top two names. What's interesting

1024
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: is this has just crossed from Adam Schefter. Bucks Pro

1025
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: Bowl linebacker Devin White has requested a trade. I just

1026
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: saw that Bucks do not want to trade him, but

1027
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: he wants to be traded, and he's entering his fifth

1028
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: year option at about eleven million dollars a year. Now,

1029
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: with that in mind, if you think about it, whoever

1030
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: gets him, Let's just say hypothetically, the Bills are in

1031
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: on it, and they want to land him, pay him

1032
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars this year. You're gonna be right back

1033
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: in the same boat next year that you were this

1034
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: year with Tremaine. Are you gonna pay him? Yeah? But

1035
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: let's look at it this way. Let me give it

1036
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: from perspective, Yes, you would be back in the same spot.

1037
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna be there with your defensive tackles. They're all

1038
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna be gone. You're gonna be there with your middle

1039
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: linebacker again, Devin White. If you'd pick him up for

1040
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: eleven million bucks, even if you put it as a

1041
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: signing bonus and put out two voidable years to cut

1042
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: down on the salary cap, whatever, you're still going to

1043
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: be back there. You've got all these other guys. Gabe

1044
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: Davis is going to be in the last year his contract.

1045
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: You get all this other stuff happened. Don't get caught

1046
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: up in that, because when free agency hits next year,

1047
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: you're going to have half of every other team available

1048
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: as well. You can sign them. There's gonna be guys available.

1049
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to fill out your roster with

1050
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: quality guys, and you'll have cash to do it because

1051
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Alton. There's not gonna be the dead

1052
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: cap space. So Josh's contract gets fatter and fatter. That's right.

1053
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: But having said that, you get a chance to interview

1054
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: all these guys on this one year deal and you

1055
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: get to once again pick the guys you want to extend,

1056
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: the Micah Hides, the Jordan Poyers. You get to pick

1057
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: the guys that you will Devin White, Jadavious Whites. You know,

1058
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: you get to pick the guys who are a part

1059
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: of your core going forward. Guys like Aryn Johnson and

1060
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: Matt Milano and Dawson Knox, these guys that have earned it.

1061
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: You get them in your building for a year, all

1062
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: invested trying to get their best contract. Next on the

1063
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: next hit, and see what you've got that's and then

1064
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: you then you got all those guys and all the

1065
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: free agent market to go from. Right, So pick your spot.

1066
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: I just you would think that if Tampa knows they

1067
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: have to do this, they're gonna try to do it

1068
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: before the draft because of a team like the Bills,

1069
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: for example, gets the linebacker they want in the draft.

1070
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: No thanks, we're out. They're not in on the bidding.

1071
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Say about this, So we just had Okuda go from

1072
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: Detroit to Atlanta for a fifth. That was for a

1073
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. What if you can get your boy

1074
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: Devin White for a seven, but you got to take

1075
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: the money. I doubt that's happenings. Or would you rather

1076
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: prefer somebody who can play on a rookie contract for

1077
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: four years, knowing the cap situation that they have and

1078
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: that they will have for several years. It's tempting because

1079
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about a guy who's a fifth

1080
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. He's twenty six. I mean, it's

1081
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: super tempting because with where you are now as a

1082
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: team and where you think you're going, you're dropping an

1083
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: all pro guy in the middle of your defense. It's

1084
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: really two Um. I don't know. I just think financially

1085
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: about the You're gonna be right back where you were

1086
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: this offseason next year at this time, and you may

1087
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: not be able to keep him either. So is your

1088
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: team better served for the continuity of the play caller

1089
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of your defense to be locked in

1090
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: for the next four or five years, or is it

1091
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: better to have the guy who has proven at this

1092
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: level and is all PROCLA what you're telling me is

1093
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: Devin White. Signing Devin White is an all in move.

1094
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean that's what it is. Not signing him,

1095
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: trading for him, trading him. Making this deal for Devin

1096
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: White is a is a a signal that the Bills

1097
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: and they're like going, hey, Jack Campbell, you're nice. Druce Sanders, Okay,

1098
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna win now with this guy. Well because the

1099
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 1: money is a problem, yes, and no, because he's entering

1100
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract. So it's not like

1101
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: the ultimate win Like it's not like the six year,

1102
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million for Vaughan. It's well, we'll

1103
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: pay this guy eleven million this year. That is a

1104
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: total win now move. Yeah, that's a win immediate like

1105
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: today move and then we'll figure it out after this year. Yeah.

1106
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: Is that is that position more important than other positions

1107
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: that you could spend? What are they they're spending that

1108
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: on eight million on? Yeah, it's yeah, it's an interesting question.

1109
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: We shouldn't forget that the Bills only have six draft choices.

1110
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we may see the most undrafted signings here

1111
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: in the McDermott being era, just because still got a

1112
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: roster to fill out. What have you got sixty nine

1113
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: players on the roster and you gotta get to ninety

1114
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: for the offseason. Last six draft picks last year they

1115
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: picked up a couple at the end of the NFL Draft. Yeah,

1116
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be about seven or yeah, they're

1117
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: always maybe ten. Everybody does. It's a it's a it's

1118
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: a frenzy because they all have their preferred free agents

1119
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: as as young kids. And so after these kids are

1120
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: sitting around in their dorms, in their houses and their

1121
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: little parties, and they don't get drafted, their phone starts

1122
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: to ring immediate. It happened with me, happened with my

1123
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: happen with my son when he was at Cornell. The minute,

1124
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the minute that last pick has made,

1125
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: he got a call from not his representation and a

1126
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: couple of teams. So it just happens that fast. They

1127
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: trying because they're they're gonna get snapped up. They're gonna

1128
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: get snapped up, and it's all it's it's like the exactly,

1129
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: it's like the stock market at the closing bell. You

1130
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: gotta get your trades in now, you know, to get

1131
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: the stocks you want um. And like you said, do

1132
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: you get a guy like Levi Wallace who turns into

1133
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: a four year starter for you, or do you get

1134
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, Joey Bag of Donuts who you wish you're

1135
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: doing it because you have your The guy was your

1136
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: high school coach, you know, his cousin was your high

1137
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: school coach. You know, that's kind of thing that happens.

1138
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: So that's it. It happens fast, and the Bills are

1139
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to do it with six picks. They got

1140
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: they got some work to do. Yeah. Uh, Maddie. The

1141
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: safety position has also dropped off since you started the

1142
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: mock drave Oh yeah, that's like that's just a big

1143
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: this position that's dropped off since when we started doing

1144
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: the mock drafts. I mean, I mean they brought back

1145
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: not only Jordan Poyer and then they signed Taylor Rafts,

1146
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: so that, I mean, I understand why it's disappeared from

1147
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: the mock drafters. You know, picks for the Bills it is,

1148
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: and in the fact that it's a it's considered to

1149
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: be a weak safety class and that doesn't help either. Yeah,

1150
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: so that's where you get these skewed numbers from. That's

1151
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: why Brian Branch was mocked to the Bills nine times

1152
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 1: is because all of that was done really before free

1153
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: agency started. Yeah, sorry, February all that, which once again

1154
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: reiterates the foolishness of doing a mock draft before free agency.

1155
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: I know, it's tough, it's tough. I mean, I'm not

1156
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: blaming the people to put them together. It's their editors

1157
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: that are telling them, Hey, you got to do one

1158
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: for us. Get it up. Yeah, it's more of a

1159
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: mock draft before free agency. Are more of roster evaluations

1160
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: than they are you know, draft, it really is, yeah,

1161
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: throwing darts. I kind of feel for the people that

1162
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: have to put those up. Um, we've got a few names.

1163
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: Should we should we talk about those few names? Absolutely,

1164
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: let's do it all right. So I wanted to talk

1165
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: about two defensive tackles and an offensive tackle. So Mazzi

1166
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Smith is the first guy we'll talk about. Steve. I

1167
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: know that's a name that you've talked about before because

1168
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: you like him. So this get his sixty three three

1169
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: twenty three redshirt junior coming out of college football. He's

1170
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: a big player. He's a type of guy that will

1171
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: plug up the middle of the defensive line for you.

1172
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: Per Next Gen Stats, he's this. He had the second

1173
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 1: best athleticism score at the Combine. He was first team

1174
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: All Big twelve and twenty twenty two. He's played in

1175
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: thirty five career games, had twenty eight starts. He only

1176
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: played in seven games his first two years and has

1177
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: played in twenty eight in his last two years, so

1178
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: has a big amount of tape in his last two seasons.

1179
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: He's played in different spots along the defensive line, but

1180
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: started in fourteen games at nose tackle in his senior season.

1181
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: So last year he had forty eight total tackles, two

1182
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: and a half tackles for loss, a half sack, and

1183
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: one forced fumble. He only has a half sack and

1184
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: his entire career. Um, So when you turn on the

1185
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: tape on this guy, he's got strong arms, he's got

1186
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: power to his punch. He's got a nice swim moves

1187
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: that that he uses a lot. His strength shows up

1188
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: on tape with the way that he can move offensive

1189
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: lineman to get off blocks. Um, he can chase a guy,

1190
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,919
Speaker 1: get guy down. He has good speed for how big

1191
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: he is, I mean six three three twenty three and

1192
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: he can move fast. He's got the width two he

1193
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: could take on double teams astranger. Yeah. Um, he is

1194
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: unpolished in ways, but you get the upside with his

1195
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: size and quickness, quickness, the intangibles there. Um. Some people

1196
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: say that he could be more of a Day two

1197
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: pick rather than a first round guy. NFL Network says

1198
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: he needs to be better at taking on double teams

1199
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: and is unlikely to see many passing downs as a pro.

1200
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about Mazzi Smith? He's got

1201
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: some potential, Yeah, and that's what you're banking on, Yes,

1202
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: because the production only has a half sack in his

1203
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: entire career two year starter. I think if you like

1204
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: him or you love him, you think he just has

1205
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: to put it all together exactly and you know, reach

1206
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: his full potential. If you're worried about him, it's because,

1207
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: oh man, does this guy just get discouraged when a

1208
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: double team comes at him? Like what's this guy doing?

1209
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: Is he internally motivated? All of that stuff that you

1210
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: worry about with these bigger players. But the athleticism is

1211
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: no debate. I mean there is no debate there. And

1212
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: his arms are almost thirty four inches long. Yeah, he's

1213
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: he's a short guy, sixty three I say short. He's

1214
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: sixty three, weighs three twenty three. He's a big dude

1215
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: with long arms. And yeah, if if he was to

1216
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: make be an NFL draft pick at least a Day one,

1217
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: you want him to play three downs your biggest hope, right,

1218
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: now in the beginning would be he would soak up

1219
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: a double team, allowing other guys to be single. I

1220
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: don't know that he's we'd have to see that because

1221
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: you know you're on a on the Bills team. You

1222
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: know you're gonna double von Miller or chip him, and

1223
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna try and double say Quon, not day Quan

1224
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: and maybe Rousseau on the other side or one of

1225
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: those other guys. Mazie Smith is not gonna get doubled.

1226
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: He'd better be able to get some penetration right. The

1227
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: knock on him was like taking plays off, conserving energy,

1228
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: those kinds of things, because there were stretches of games

1229
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: where he just didn't flat out didn't notice him ry

1230
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: playing on a good defense. He's cherry picking. Yeah, I mean,

1231
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: it's not like it's him and a bunch of guys.

1232
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: He's got quality talent around him. So I think the

1233
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: people that are his detractors say, well, why didn't he

1234
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: show more, why didn't he produce more? And then there

1235
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: are other people are like, ah, he's just got put

1236
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: all together. So he's probably early round two, maybe steaks

1237
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: into the bottom roun. He's been mocked to the Bills

1238
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Um he was. He showed up

1239
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: in mock draft to watch seven point zero, So that's

1240
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: why I wanted to throw his name out there discuss him.

1241
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: Another defensive tackle who's shown up a couple of times

1242
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: as of late on mock drafts going to the Bills

1243
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: at number twenty seven is defensive tackle Brian Brazzie. He's

1244
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: from Clemson. He's six five, he's two ninety eight, redshirt sophomore.

1245
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: He did tear his ACL in his second year, really

1246
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 1: his first year playing in terms of how many games

1247
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: that he played, but he played in twenty six games

1248
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: over his three year career with Clemson. He's the former

1249
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: number one overall recruit coming out of high school. He

1250
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: had thirty five sacks in high school. He's a two

1251
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: time first team All American in high school. He did

1252
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: a lot on tape in high school. He got hurt

1253
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: towards ACL in that second season and he's kind of

1254
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: coming back from that, so the tape in college didn't

1255
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: impress like the tape in high school did. He also

1256
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: contributed offensively in Clemson's jumbo package, so a little bit

1257
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: of versatility there in his career with Clemson, he has

1258
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: fifty total tackles, nine sacks, fifteen TFLs, five passes defense,

1259
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: and an interception. And in his final season with Clemson

1260
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: he had three and a half sacks five and a

1261
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: half TFLs. This guy's light on his feet. When you

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01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: turn on his tape, when he gets loose, it's like

1263
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: a truck coming after a quarterback. He slips past offensive

1264
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: lineman with ease. He's determined to get to that quarterback.

1265
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: It seems like he's hard to even get into a

1266
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: block because he's always on the move. He's a good

1267
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: run defender. He can take on double teams. I think

1268
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: with him, you just need more from him on tape,

1269
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: as he's really only had two seasons to play. He

1270
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: only played in four games in that twenty twenty one season.

1271
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: He's not a project, but you are taking him on

1272
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 1: knowing there's growing up that needs to happen. There's growing

1273
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: that needs to happen with him. Yeah. I mean the

1274
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: athleticism is readily apparent, Like there aren't too many six

1275
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: five guys that are this fluid. You know, there's some

1276
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: stiffness in their hymns, or they can't twist and bend

1277
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 1: this guy six five, He can bend, twist, flatten coming around.

1278
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean they would line him up at defensive ends sometimes. Yeah,

1279
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: because at three hundred pounds he could do that. And

1280
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Kalaius Campbell, but there's athleticism that

1281
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: is similar to Kalaius cam and you can't teach that.

1282
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: Those are the intangibles that that him and Smith have

1283
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: from Michigan. I think Brian Brize has a little bit

1284
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: more of that athleticism, and you see it in the

1285
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: way that he is motivated to get after the quarterback.

1286
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: One thing you know when he watched him is he

1287
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: struggles to dissengagement the blocker, but when he does get

1288
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: a lane to the quarterback, he closes fast. He can

1289
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: really close on the quarterback. So when he does get

1290
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: a crease in the prap pass protection or when he

1291
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: does get around the guy who's trying to block him,

1292
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: he's a really good as you see it, a ton.

1293
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: They do it with him a ton. He stunts a

1294
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: lot because of his athleticism. He's a bible to run.

1295
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: He can run side to side and get up. That

1296
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: gives him a lane to get up through the quarterback.

1297
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: They use that really well at Clemson, and you see

1298
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: him starting at a at a defensive tackling going looping

1299
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: out to the end or vice versa, looping to the

1300
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: other side of the ball on the pass rush. Because

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01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: of his speed and athleticism, he can do that and

1302
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: still get home. That's but he does struggle just one

1303
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: on one going from here to there through one guy

1304
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, right. I mean, I will say this though,

1305
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: Mazzie Smith really didn't have a lot working against him,

1306
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: where you say, well, what's going on with the production there?

1307
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: Whereas with Brazil it's totally a different circumstance. Torn Acl

1308
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: misses a whole year and then he's dealing with his

1309
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: younger daughter who had or younger sister who had brain

1310
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: cancer while he was playing, and then she ultimately passed

1311
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: away and succumbed to the disease unfortunately. So he's been

1312
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: through it. I think he's going to get a pass

1313
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: from a lot of teams because of what he's had

1314
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: to deal with through his game. He's the Firmer number

1315
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: one overall recruiting high school, so it'll be interesting too

1316
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: because he's again and you get to this point where

1317
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: you're picking this guy and this guy and that guy

1318
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: where you know you want to sit down with him,

1319
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: like we're sitting around this table and saying, you know, okay,

1320
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: what's your story? How are you doing? What's you know?

1321
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: He's got a compelling story, right, and he's got any

1322
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: find out what kind of guy he is. Um, he

1323
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: played for a big school and Clemson, He's played against

1324
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: great college football teams. Yeah, he's intriguing. He's an intriguing prod.

1325
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: Now he's playing defensive tackle and he only weighs right

1326
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: at three hundred pounds at the combine at Oliver's two

1327
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: eighty seven. But you know what, um, yeah, I mean

1328
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: you gotta have some. You gotta have some big boys

1329
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,799
Speaker 1: down inside doesn't hurt. And it's not considered a super

1330
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: strong defensive tackle class. So if you really feel like

1331
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: you gotta get one, you may want to get one sooner.

1332
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: It's a throwing league too, and defensive tackle that can

1333
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: rush the past then later, right and in fact more

1334
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: so than stop the run. In fact, yeah, yes, Maddie,

1335
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: we are at a time I want you to hold

1336
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: that one player you had left for next mock draft

1337
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: watch next week, because it's Steve's favorite player for the

1338
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,480
Speaker 1: Bill at twenty seven, so we will get to him

1339
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: next time when you are back from Mock Draft Watch

1340
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: eight point zero? When is that schedule to go up

1341
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com Friday morning? I would say

1342
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: what o'clock is? You can expect it up right, and

1343
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: I know that Keiper just had a mock draft come

1344
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: out today, so that'll be up on eight point zero

1345
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: among others. That's Maddie Clap helping us out with the

1346
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: Mock Draft Watch. She'll be back for another installment next week.

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: Here on One Bills Live, presented by Colloid of Health,

1348
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. It's a twinter poll Tuesday. Chris

1349
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: Brown Steve tasking with you One Bills Live. As we

1350
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: have been asking you if the Bills look to add

1351
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in this year's draft, where would be

1352
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: the best spot to do so? Trade up, stay put

1353
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, or wait until the pick matches the

1354
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: value at the receiver position. And a majority of you

1355
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: are still choosing to wait until the pick matches the value.

1356
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: Forty five percent of you are in favor of that.

1357
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: A lot of you would like to stand pad at

1358
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: twenty seven, while just over a quarter of you were saying,

1359
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: trade up, go get the guy. It's long been my

1360
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: philosophy and observation. No matter where you pick somebody, if

1361
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: they're that guy, nobody cares. If it was deemed too early,

1362
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: you mean right, nobody. Boy, they reached for him. He's

1363
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. But they reached for him

1364
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: on draft day, Larry Fitzgerald. Why were they thinking? Right, Yeah,

1365
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: I get it. You could have traded back and got

1366
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: him at twenty two instead of sixteen or whatever. And

1367
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: that's what it's and it's true. But the only way

1368
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: you get credit for anything is if is for a

1369
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: guy like la I keep bringing him up Milano, Tern, Johnson, Gabe. Yeah,

1370
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: fifth rounders that turn into all pros. There you go.

1371
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: Those those are the rarest of cats right there. Yeah,

1372
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone. See what you think at

1373
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: eight oh three, five fifty open line for you. There,

1374
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: we go to Sarah in Penfield. What do you have

1375
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: for Sarah? How are you doing? Guys? Good? Good? Um,

1376
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying. I can't wait for seventeen days until we

1377
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: get to the draft. I think, to be honest, we

1378
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: should hold off on a wide receiver and look what

1379
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: comes up in the third or fourth round. I think

1380
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: our first should we should look at you know, Jack Campbell,

1381
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: and I really like Drew Sanders in the first round,

1382
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: and then maybe go in the second round to a

1383
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 1: good tight end too. Tight End out would be great,

1384
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think that would give us a different dimension.

1385
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, look at Kelsey. I mean, and

1386
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: I think a big, tall you know you've got We've

1387
01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: got a good class of tight ends. We've got Kincaid, Washington, Musgrave.

1388
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: I think any of those would would fit our team

1389
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: very well. Thanks guys, all right, thanks for the call.

1390
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Tight end would be intriguing. I'm not going to debate

1391
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: that for a second, your rights er. It is a

1392
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: strong class at the position. They're saying the strongest in

1393
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: a decade, as you have upwards of seven guys in

1394
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: the top one hundred, you know, in the entire class.

1395
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, and your point about how it could change

1396
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 1: the offense in terms of how teams defend the bills

1397
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: is accurate. Also, like Darnell Washington, for example, like that

1398
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: guy at six seven, two sixty five, he can help

1399
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: you in the run game. It's like having an extra

1400
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: offensive tackle out there. But then he could also slip

1401
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: out and catch a pass in the ten to fifteen

1402
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: yard range and then hurdle dbs on his way to

1403
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: the end zone. Well, he can spirit, no question, because

1404
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: when they throw it to him, it's when I say spirit,

1405
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: like if if the football was a fish and it

1406
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: was zinging by him, he sticks eleven inch hand end

1407
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: up and it's like the rest of us catching a

1408
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: nerf ball. I mean, the guy's got enormous physical tools.

1409
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: Like someone shooting a Pez dispenser at him. He's catching

1410
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 1: a pez in his hands, right, So yeah, there's guys

1411
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: out there that could help. You got to realize too,

1412
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go too tight end and do that predominantly. Yeah,

1413
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: but a guy like Darniell Washington in that because you

1414
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: see unpredictable though, wasn't it. Well, yes, it's not your

1415
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: mom and Dad's twelve personnel. Absolutely, But then you got

1416
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: I would say probably at this point it would be

1417
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: Digs on the outside, Davis on the other outside, Washington

1418
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: and Knox and then uh James Cook, So you know,

1419
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: off you go. Yes, also, but you know Deontay Hardy

1420
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: doesn't see the field. Um, none of those guys in

1421
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: Khalil Shaker doesn't see the field. Well, yeah, it might

1422
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: not be every week, but I mean I think we

1423
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: saw a game where it can be red zone offense,

1424
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: that's for sure. We saw games where you know, Dorsey

1425
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,440
Speaker 1: was changing the formation a lot through the first two possessions,

1426
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, going eleven and then twelve twelve, eleven, twenty one, ten,

1427
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: Like he was all over the map on some possessions

1428
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: in games just to keep the opposing defense off balance.

1429
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: I just like the unpredictable nature that you would still

1430
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: have in twelve personnel Traditionally a run look with guys

1431
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: like a Darnel Washington, like even the Notre Dame kid.

1432
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: He's a complete tight end. He can block the snot

1433
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: at you, but you can also catch, you know, in

1434
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 1: the short to intermediate range. Yeah, and you think about

1435
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: the skill sets that we know the Bills possess. You

1436
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: added Darnel Washington to that, who is a big I mean,

1437
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: he's absolutely enormous. Get him down in the red zone,

1438
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: there's not you can't man up the guy. He gets

1439
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: in the red zone just stands there. You throw the

1440
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: ball up above the crossbar. He can go up and

1441
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: get it. Then you put Awson Knox in there as well,

1442
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: and then you got a tight end, like a tight end,

1443
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: like the third tight end, Quentin Morris, who can really catch,

1444
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: who's big. Well, then now all of a sudden, you

1445
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: got these guys that are threats down the red zone.

1446
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: But also you got a quarterbacks two or fifty pounds.

1447
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: He'll take the snap and tuck it under his arm

1448
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: and follow all three of them. So it is intriguing,

1449
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: an intriguing combination because I know, you know, Quentin Morris

1450
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 1: can really catch, he's got great hands. This guy Darnell Washington,

1451
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: same thing. And Dawson Knox, I mean, he's made money

1452
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: in the red zone. So yeah, I think it's an

1453
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: intriguing combination and possibility. Although I'm maybe a game, like

1454
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: you said, maybe for a game here, a game there,

1455
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: you'd have a lot of twelve personnel to tight end.

1456
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's very appealing about Washington two

1457
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: is this guy was a five star recruit and he

1458
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: was the number two athlete in the twenty twenty recruiting class.

1459
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: Number one by the way, it was Drew Sanders, but

1460
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: he came into Georgia he didn't get on the field

1461
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: until last year, and even then he only started six games.

1462
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Why because they got Brock Bowers, who's gonna probably go

1463
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: on the top ten next year. He's not even draft eligible.

1464
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: So here's a five star coming to Georgia. He had

1465
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: to take a back seat. Play, you know, be the

1466
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: second tight end. Play it, you know, do what's best

1467
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: for the team kind of thing. And he did it.

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: And even though he started four they played two tight

1469
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: ends a lot Georgia did with Bowers and him on

1470
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: the field at the same time. My god, you do

1471
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: that and he only caught twenty eight balls, but he

1472
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: was still second team All SEC. That's hard to do, right,

1473
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: we're not playing a lot. We've seen it happen with

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01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: other players. I mean, we've seen it with let's say

1475
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: him again, Terren Johnson and Matt Milano. They're better pro

1476
01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: players than they are college players. Right. The pro game

1477
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: is tailored differently than the college game. And when you

1478
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: find a niche in a spot where you can thrive

1479
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: in a system that allows you to do that, good

1480
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: college players become great NFL players, and great college players

1481
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: can further their greatness in the NFL as well. But

1482
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, so there's that possibility.

1483
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: And it works the other way too. Unfortunately, we've seen

1484
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: all too often at the top of these drafts where

1485
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: college player comes in he can't duplicate his success at

1486
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: college ranks because he's playing his two good of guys. Works,

1487
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: it works both ways. Yeah, be interesting to see though,

1488
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: because a guy like or the reason that made me

1489
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: think of that was a guy like Darnell Washington may

1490
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: turn out to be a better pro than the guy

1491
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: he was playing behind in Georgia. Brock Browers is pretty

1492
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: good though, right though, you know, get the point is made, though.

1493
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't even look like he's playing the

1494
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: same sport as everybody else. He outruns corners and he's

1495
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: like six four and a half two forty five, and

1496
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: he's just dumb. What that guy can do? Man, he's

1497
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: a sophomore, true sophomore. Crazy. Let's go back to the

1498
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: phones and to Mark and West Seneca. What do you

1499
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: got for us? Mark? You're on one bills live? Hey, guys,

1500
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: how are you today? Good? Yeah? This wide receiver talk,

1501
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: it is exhausting to me. I can't take it anymore. Yeah,

1502
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 1: I just I just can't. I just And here's the

1503
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: reason why I'm not saying we need to ignore wide receivers.

1504
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but when you look at the

1505
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: Bills team in the last three four years, any games

1506
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 1: that we lost, I'd say nine out of ten of them,

1507
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: we always end up pointing to the line of scrimmage

1508
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: and how we didn't win the line of scrimmage on

1509
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: either side of the ball, more often than not on

1510
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. And here we are,

1511
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: we just lost a game in the playoffs at home,

1512
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: no less, where we totally got dominated on both sides

1513
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: of the ball on the line of scrimmage, and everybody

1514
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: he keeps talking about wide receiver, wide receiver, and the

1515
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 1: thing that nobody is talking about at all. The Bills

1516
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: haven't really invested in the offensive line in first second

1517
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: round in a number of years. Again, at least not

1518
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: heavily enough for my liking. And both the Jets and

1519
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Miami have no joke front sevens on the defensive side

1520
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: of the ball. And we're talking about bringing in a

1521
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: guy who we may not be able to get the

1522
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: ball down the field to him, which is, by the way,

1523
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: the way Josh likes to throw the ball. He doesn't

1524
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: like the shark game. He wants to get it down

1525
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: the field. And then lastly, we talk about Josh wanting

1526
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: to we don't want to get hit. We don't want

1527
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: to get hit. We don't want to get hit. Well,

1528
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: let's build an offensive line that he can stand in

1529
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 1: the pocket and he doesn't have to run out of

1530
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: the pocket from away from pressure, and you'll probably eliminate

1531
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: fifty to seventy five percent of the hits he takes

1532
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: by doing that. So the logic in drafting a wide receiver,

1533
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: whether it's at the first end of the first round

1534
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: or even at the beginning of the second round, makes

1535
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: no sense to me whatsoever. We need to invest in

1536
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: our offensive line, and it's about time we do. And

1537
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: with a guy like Josh who can then be a

1538
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: real dual threat stand in there and throw it or

1539
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: rent run what he really feels like it, I think

1540
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: there's a little stop at us then. But the wide

1541
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: receiver talk to me. Just gotta end. Thanks guys, All right, Mark,

1542
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: we got to take a break here. We'll address some

1543
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: of your comments. The first thing I'll say is he's right.

1544
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: The Bills have not had a first round pick as

1545
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman since Eric Wood in two thousand and nine.

1546
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: Cody Ford was the last offensive lineman taken in round two.

1547
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: That was in twenty nineteen. But yes, we will address

1548
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: your concerns. We haven't ignored offensive line. There's just been

1549
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: a lot of pre draft visits from receivers and stuff,

1550
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: so we figured we talk about it today. We'll address

1551
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: your offensive line comments next here on one Bill's Live.

1552
01:26:54,439 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, all right, welcome back. We got to add

1553
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: address Mark and West Seneca's concerns about old line d line.

1554
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Steve's been on old line. His favorite guy for the

1555
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Bills of twenty seven is Tennessee offensive tackle Darnell Wright.

1556
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: Steve taken away. That's right, six five three thirty three,

1557
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: got a little nasty in him. Has played both right

1558
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: tackle and left tackle. Um, somebody chimed in on Twitter,

1559
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: You really, I can't really relate how he answered a

1560
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: guy on Twitter who evaluated himself. Oh yeah, I saw

1561
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: that Darnell Wright has no business playing left tackle. He's

1562
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: better at right tackle. And the lasting guy says he

1563
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: has got no business playing left tackle in the NFL.

1564
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: And Darnell Wright came back at him in an unfriendly manner,

1565
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: that's right and said when did you play? Yeah, when

1566
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: did you play? And called him a name too. That's

1567
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: my favorite block to him. Steamrolls guys into the end zone.

1568
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: So athletic plays tackle, got a little bit of nasty

1569
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: in him and uh nimble feed for three two pounder.

1570
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, he's gonna be a professional football

1571
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: player for ten years at least. So use than that guy. Yeah,

1572
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: and I think he's worth a twenty seventh pick of

1573
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: the draft if he comes in and plays well and

1574
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: is there. Um that's the way he automatically gets plugged in. Yeah.

1575
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm wondering if he is there because

1576
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: people are all about him right now. Yeah. I went

1577
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: from being a dark horse, my dark horse shot at

1578
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 1: the Bills and actually fall into the Bills too. I

1579
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: hope he's there. Yeah. And as we were talking about yesterday, Jacksonville,

1580
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: who picks twenty fourth, they need a tackle in a

1581
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: big way because they lost Juan Taylor, one of their

1582
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: starting tackles in free agency this year. So there, they

1583
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: definitely have a tackle need. And they pick a few

1584
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: spots ahead, they could pick somebody else. Yeah, Yeah, and

1585
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: if if there's not a run on tackles by that time,

1586
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: you know there's still corners and stuff, a deep corner draft,

1587
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: a deep tight end draft, and a deep tackle draft.

1588
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: So there's a chance that one of these really good

1589
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: guys will fall to the Bills and they'll snap them

1590
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 1: up right. That will do it for a Twitter poll Tuesday.

1591
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the respondence. It looks like people want

1592
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: the Bills to wait until the value matches up with

1593
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: the receiver. Makes sense to me. That's it for us

1594
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. We'll see you tomorrow at one