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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you're having

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Speaker 1: a great week so far Thursday night entering into Friday

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Speaker 1: and bye gosh. We have some positive things to talk

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Speaker 1: about when it comes to the Atlanta Brays, fresh off

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Speaker 1: winning two out of three games versus the Philadelphia Phillies.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast that I know, me and a

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Speaker 1: podcast partner, Steven Tolbert, have been really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: having to be able to talk about for a long

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Speaker 1: period of time. And Steven, it's good to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: This week once again, didn't start off in the best ways,

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Speaker 1: but you mentioned it, you mentioned it on Monday Day night.

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Speaker 1: How this team responded was gonna be a very interesting

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Speaker 1: thing to see, and by gosh, I think they responded

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Speaker 1: in about as good a form as they can. Great

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Speaker 1: series win for the Braves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Sean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a really good I mean, obviously, anytime

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Speaker 3: you beat Philadelphia two out of three, you know you

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Speaker 3: take that. Honestly, the Braves could have won all three games.

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Speaker 3: They had the tying in winning runs and scored position

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Speaker 3: the ninth inning last night and could have easily won

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Speaker 3: that game. You know, Philly probably could say the same thing.

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Speaker 3: They probably could say. You know, all three games were

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Speaker 3: winnable for them for them as well, well, very close games,

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Speaker 3: low scoring games. The pitching really dominated. The pitching was

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Speaker 3: really more of the story. But yeah, listen, without Riley,

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Speaker 3: without Solaire, you know, this is how the Braids are

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Speaker 3: gonna have to win games right now, is with great

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Speaker 3: pitching and some timely hitting, and even if it's not

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Speaker 3: that much timely hitting, just enough timely hitting the win

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Speaker 3: the game. And you know that's what they did in

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Speaker 3: this series. It took two out of three, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it was a really I was really impressed, especially

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Speaker 3: with the pitching, with how they responded after the Riley news.

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Speaker 3: You know, if if the Phillies had come in and

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Speaker 3: just and just torn them up for three games, you know,

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Speaker 2: But the pitching really held.

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Speaker 3: Its ground, dominated in some stretches even and that's what

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Speaker 3: without Chris Sale pitching in the series, and the offense

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Speaker 3: did just barely enough to get two out of three.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a great series and a really

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Speaker 3: good response to the to the you know, heartbreaking news

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Speaker 1: And and to add to that, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a great response to to the to the Riley injury news.

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Speaker 1: But I also want to put shin a spotlight on

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Speaker 1: the fact that there's a very real chance, Stephen, this

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Speaker 1: could be one of the n L wild card matchups

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Speaker 1: six weeks from now. You know, the Braves after this victory,

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Speaker 1: are two games up with the Mets for the final

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Speaker 1: wildcard spart in the National League. The Mets playing the

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Speaker 1: Padres right now, that's gonna obviously that series this weekend

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Speaker 1: is obviously going to have implications all week long on

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Speaker 1: the wildcard picture. But the point that I'm getting at

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Speaker 1: is is that you very much could see the Braves

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Speaker 1: be three games, likely at Citizens Bank Park, and I

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Speaker 1: for anyone in baseball right now. But the key is

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Speaker 1: is that this was like a playoff series. This very

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Speaker 1: much could be a preview of a playoff series we

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Speaker 1: see in October. And the Braves pitching showed, and to

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Speaker 1: your point, they showed without their best picture, just how

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Speaker 1: effective they could be the Phillies are at full strength,

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Speaker 1: they had and they had plenty to play for, and

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Speaker 1: we were still able to win two of the three

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put too much significance on that,

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Speaker 1: but it goes to show that even though this pitching

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Speaker 1: staff was expected to regress after the first half, it

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Speaker 1: struggled here recently, it's still is more than good enough

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Speaker 1: to make a difference, to make noise, and it's a

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean this pitching staff, you know, and

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Speaker 3: again Chris Sale did not pitch in this series, but

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Speaker 3: pitcher in baseball this year. You don't hear about him

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Speaker 3: I mean, this pitching staff can go beat anybody in

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Speaker 3: a playoff series. You know, if you only give up

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Speaker 3: up even if the Braves are diminished, you know, quite

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Speaker 3: with the with the win tonight, the Braves won, the

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Speaker 3: Braves are now six and two versus Philly, and that's

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Speaker 3: a very important number because once you get the seven wins,

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Speaker 3: that means you win the season series, which is the

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Speaker 3: first head to head tiebreaker, So.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: So the Braves just have to win one more game

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Speaker 3: Now that only matters obviously if they finished the year tied.

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Speaker 3: But the division race is not over yet, and the

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Speaker 3: Braves still have four games head to head with Philly.

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Speaker 3: They take care of business in that series. You win

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Speaker 3: that's a notable part of this as well, that the

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Speaker 3: has been unbelievable and we talked about it after the

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Speaker 3: to win. They're gonna have to win on the backs

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Speaker 3: of their pitching off this really really good rotation.

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Speaker 2: Off this absurd bullpen.

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Speaker 3: They're ridiculous closer that we're gonna talk about here in

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Speaker 3: a minute. That's the formula for this team. And if

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Speaker 3: even better. But you know, with this kind of new

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Speaker 1: And as Steven mentioned, yes, the Phillies still have a

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Speaker 1: six game lead in the standings, but with how the

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Speaker 1: broil the Braves have played against them so far this season,

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Speaker 1: their lead may not be as comfortable as it once was.

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Speaker 1: So, Steven, let's talk a bit about the star of

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Speaker 1: the game in my opinion on Thursday night, and that

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Speaker 1: of course is Spencer Swellingbot. Now we've talked about him

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Speaker 1: at linked on this podcast, Brad and Scott have talked

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Speaker 1: about him. It's no secret that Spencer Swellerbock has probably

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Speaker 1: been the biggest revelation, you know, in a positive way

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Speaker 1: Could you answer me this question, Stephen, who started for

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Speaker 1: Paul Skins started the game. It started the All Star

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Speaker 1: Game for the National League. Steven, let me ask you

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm hoping it's Spencer Swollenback because otherwise this is

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Speaker 1: It absolutely is. The point that I'm trying to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, for so much of the year,

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Speaker 3: He's faced three hundred and thirty three hitters this year

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Speaker 3: you know, it's not like he's throwing eighty nine miles

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Speaker 2: But he just doesn't walk people.

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Speaker 1: their previous teams earlier this year, or put on waivers,

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Speaker 1: whatever have you. Each of these players added in time.

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Speaker 1: But yet, Stephen, each of these these players are now

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Speaker 1: a mainstay in the Braves lineup. And they each had

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Speaker 1: multiple big moments. You know, or Sella tonight, a big

437
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Speaker 1: RBI hit, a couple of big defensive plays, Mierfield at

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Speaker 1: the top of the order, getting on base, putting the

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Speaker 1: ball in, playing key areas, Loriano at the play in

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Speaker 1: the field. Each of them had big moments. When so

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Speaker 1: Layer comes back, I still think it's gonna be him

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Speaker 1: and Michael Harris at the top of the order. But

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Speaker 1: that's gonna put Ursella, Loriano as well as Mierfield at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of their order. I'm confident that could be

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Speaker 1: a productive bottom of the order. But I don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: think these guys are all of a sudden going to

447
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Speaker 1: turn into all stars. But when we talk about things

448
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Speaker 1: that need to happen to get us to that tournament.

449
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Speaker 1: As you say, those guys being contributors would be a

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Speaker 1: huge key to make that a smooth journey to get there.

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Speaker 1: And they're each old they're in the bargain. So far,

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Speaker 1: it's been really fun to see how productive each of

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Speaker 1: them have been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been huge. I mean, especially this stretch with

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Speaker 3: so Lair out and obviously Riley out. You know, you

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Speaker 3: know again Solaire is supposed to come back on Friday.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if that actually happens. But you know, the

458
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Speaker 3: Braves needed some guys just to come up with kind

459
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Speaker 3: of some random big hits this this series and last series.

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Speaker 3: And you know, they did just enough to get four

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Speaker 3: wins out of six games.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, it's been.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a hodgepodge of of different things. You know,

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Speaker 3: Loreano has a big game here there, Mirifield has a

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Speaker 3: big game there here there. You know, Chelle's defense has

466
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Speaker 3: been really good so far. I know, the numbers for

467
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Speaker 3: the season for him have not grated out well, you know,

468
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Speaker 3: the defensive metrics have not looked pretty for him, but

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Speaker 3: he's looked really strong.

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Speaker 2: He's turned a bunch of double plays.

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Speaker 3: You know, he hasn't really He's made every play hit

472
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Speaker 3: to him and that's really all you can ask for.

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Speaker 3: He has come up with a few hits. You know,

474
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Speaker 3: that's what the Braves need right now. They just need

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Speaker 3: kind of these random performances here or there to just

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Speaker 3: get through until they get so lair back. You know,

477
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Speaker 3: Ozzie's gonna be back soon. You know, until they get there,

478
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Speaker 3: the guys that are are are coming back. Until they

479
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: get those guys back, that's what they need, you know,

480
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Speaker 3: they need and try to, you know, scrape together three

481
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Speaker 3: or four runs in a game and hope the pitching

482
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Speaker 3: staff can cover, you know, make that, make that stand up.

483
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been huge, and you know I would

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Speaker 3: love to win a few more of these games, like

485
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Speaker 3: five to one instead of two to one. You know this,

486
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Speaker 3: watching this offense is probably gonna take years off my

487
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Speaker 3: life and having to watch all these three to two

488
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Speaker 3: games and having to sweat over every single pitch. But

489
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Speaker 3: you know that's kind of how this team is gonna

490
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Speaker 3: have to win right now. You know, with the lineup

491
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Speaker 3: they're putting out there, they're not gonna score five or

492
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Speaker 3: six or seven runs a night. They're gonna score three

493
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Speaker 3: or four at the most usually, and you know, the

494
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Speaker 3: pitching staff is gonna make that hold up or they're

495
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Speaker 3: gonna have to make that hold up to win. So

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Speaker 3: hopefully when we get some of these guys back, it

497
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Speaker 3: won't be as tight every night. But you know, without Riley,

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Speaker 3: without Acunya, you know they're gonna you know, Matt Olson

499
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Speaker 3: is still not fully Matt Olson. Every time it looks

500
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Speaker 3: like he's gonna turn around, you know, turn the corner,

501
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Speaker 3: maybe get going, he has a stretch where it's not

502
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Speaker 3: so great. So they're just gonna have to piece it

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Speaker 3: together on offense, and you know that so far they've

504
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Speaker 3: done it, and we'll see if they can continue. Hopefully

505
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Speaker 3: they get the latter back on Friday, that would be

506
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Speaker 3: a huge part of it. If they can just get

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Speaker 3: him back to in right field and leading off, that

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Speaker 3: would help a lot.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now let's have a little bit of fun, Steven,

510
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Speaker 1: because you know, we don't usually you know, talk too

511
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Speaker 1: much about speculation or things like that, especially for you know,

512
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Speaker 1: scenarios that may not be all that likely, but in

513
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Speaker 1: this case, want to make an exception. John Adler on

514
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Speaker 1: a Twitter slash x you know, reached out to each

515
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Speaker 1: of us here at Hammer territory with the with the

516
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Speaker 1: prison scenario. You know, of course, there was the news

517
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Speaker 1: today earlier today that the Los Angeles Dodgers designated for

518
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Speaker 1: assignment a certain player who Braves fans may still you know,

519
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Speaker 1: have have some fan for. And his name is, of course,

520
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Speaker 1: Jason Hayward. Jason Hayward had a bit of a rebound

521
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Speaker 1: year last year for the Dodgers. This year has struggled

522
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Speaker 1: for a good portion of the season, but he's now

523
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Speaker 1: now been designated for assignment. Don't know if he makes

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Speaker 1: it to the Braves, but Steve and I at least

525
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Speaker 1: want to mention this because as we get closer to September,

526
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Speaker 1: there's still these basically ten days where the Braves can

527
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Speaker 1: still look to bolster their lineup by adding players to

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Speaker 1: the organization that would be eligible for the playoffs and

529
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Speaker 1: of course eligible to help them in the stretch run.

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Speaker 1: Jason Hayward's numbers may not be that great, but would

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Speaker 1: you compare him to potentially an Adam to Ball or others.

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Speaker 1: I think you could make a case where if he's there,

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Speaker 1: it would make sense for the Braves to explore adding him,

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Speaker 1: especially if they feel they can have him have success

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Speaker 1: against right handed pitching. I don't know your thoughts. Don'tant

536
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Speaker 1: to spend too much time on this, because again, it's

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Speaker 1: probably not a likely scenario, but I think it's at

538
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Speaker 1: least something that could intrigue the Braves if he makes

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Speaker 1: it to them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, their position player group has

541
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Speaker 3: been so decimated by injuries and underperformance that you know,

542
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Speaker 3: Jason still walks at like a nine percent clip, which is,

543
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of the what they were attracted to

544
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Speaker 3: by Witt Mayfield, and we've seen how he's bounced back

545
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Speaker 3: once he got to the team. I would not be

546
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Speaker 3: stunned at all, you know, even if you know, obviously

547
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Speaker 3: everybody's gonna remember the fact that Jason started his career

548
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Speaker 3: with the Braves, and it would just be cool to

549
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Speaker 3: see him back in a Braves uniform.

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Speaker 2: That would be very cool.

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Speaker 3: Uh. You know, I I'll never forget where I was

552
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Speaker 3: to day he debuted and hit that home run against

553
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Speaker 3: the Cubs. One of the best memories of my Braves

554
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Speaker 3: life for sure, one of the most well, you know,

555
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Speaker 3: one of the most vivid memories, to be honest, And

556
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Speaker 3: it would be unbelievable to see him in a Braves

557
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Speaker 3: uniform again. But even if you put kind of sentimentality

558
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Speaker 3: aside and just talk about like on the field, you know,

559
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Speaker 3: somebody that walks as much as Hayward does still have

560
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Speaker 3: some value, especially on a team that still struggles with

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Speaker 3: on base. You know, he's left handed, so he could

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Speaker 3: potentially help you get his right handed pitching. He's having

563
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Speaker 3: a kind of a reverse splitz year where he's hitting

564
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Speaker 3: lefties better this year versus instead of right he's but

565
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Speaker 3: you know, reverse splits are usually just a product of

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Speaker 3: small sample size. If if you just take the larger sample,

567
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Speaker 3: which is his career, you know he's always hit right

568
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Speaker 3: he's better than lefties, so you know he could potentially

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Speaker 3: help you gets right handed pitching again. He walks a lot,

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Speaker 3: you know he's probably better. And even though Adam Devall

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Speaker 3: had a good game tonight, you know, Loriano's really taken

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Speaker 3: over against anytime there's a lefty on the mound. The

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Speaker 3: only reason to All played the night was because sole

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Speaker 3: there is still out. But anytime there's a left he

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Speaker 3: on the mount, it seems like Loriano's kind of getting

576
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Speaker 3: that start. So I don't know obiously what they did.

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Speaker 3: You know they might not like having another lefty when

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Speaker 3: they already have Hayward, or when they already have Harris

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Speaker 3: and Kelnick on the team. That might be more lefties

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Speaker 3: than they want. But we'll see, we'll see what they do.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else just grabs him,

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Speaker 3: you know, before he even gets to the Braves.

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Speaker 2: The Brids don't even get a chance to make that.

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Speaker 3: Decision, because I think he could still help a team

585
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: with his walk grate.

586
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Speaker 2: He's obviously a really good clubhouse guy. So but we'll see.

587
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised, but I would be a little

588
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Speaker 3: bit surprised if he actually made it to the Braves.

589
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Speaker 3: If he made it to the Braves, I wouldn't be

590
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: surprised if they picked him up. But I'm guessing another

591
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: team in the waiver priority we'll grab him first.

592
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: So Stephen, the attention for the Braves now turns to

593
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Speaker 1: Washington and a bit of a two parter here is

594
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Speaker 1: we end this edition of the Hammer Territory podcast. The

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Speaker 1: first thing is is that the Braves need to have

596
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Speaker 1: redemption on their mind, and I know you especially want

597
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: them to have it on their mind with what you

598
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: witnessed earlier this year. But the pitching matchups for this

599
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Speaker 1: series Chris Sale versus Mackenzie Gore, Charlie Morton versus Jake Irvin,

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Speaker 1: and Ronald Lopez versus DJ Hurts. Now, at first, you know,

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Speaker 1: hearing those pitching matchups, I could easily see many thinking, well,

602
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Speaker 1: the Braves should easily have the the upper hand each

603
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Speaker 1: of those pitching matchups. Well, it's just not true. Each

604
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Speaker 1: of these pitchers have had successful outings against the Braves

605
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Speaker 1: so far this year. This National pitching staff is very,

606
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Speaker 1: very underrated in my opinion, it has the potential to

607
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: be very good, but for this Braves team especially, I

608
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Speaker 1: think facing two left handers, for this Braves team, the

609
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Speaker 1: focus has to be on you are the better team,

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Speaker 1: likely because you have the better offense. We need another

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Speaker 1: one of these weekends where the offense shows up and

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Speaker 1: dominates and at the very least get the series win,

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Speaker 1: hopefully a series sweep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the Braves have not played well against

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Speaker 3: the Nationals at all this year. You know, they had

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Speaker 3: two four game series earlier this year and the Braves

617
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Speaker 3: went one to three in both of them. So the

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Speaker 3: Braids are two and six against the Nationals. This year,

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Speaker 3: which is one of the reasons the Braves are where

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Speaker 3: they are in the standings because they really had a

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Speaker 3: hard time beating the bad teams. And I was actually

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Speaker 3: at two of those games in Washington. I was actually

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Speaker 3: at the Chris Sales start in Washington, and he pitched unbelievable.

624
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: You only gave up two runs and seven anythings, but

625
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: the offense couldn't cover up. So, you know, the Braves

626
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: need to find their offense again. You know, hopefully Soleira

627
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: is back. Like you said that. You know, Washington is

628
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: not nearly as bad as people think. Uh And obviously

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Speaker 3: Brace fans know that because Washington has played so well

630
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Speaker 3: against the Braves, so is not is not a guaranteed

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Speaker 3: series win. It's not, you know, I guaranteed anything. We've

632
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Speaker 3: seen the Braves you know, have you know, good stretches

633
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: of baseball and then immediately follow that up with bad

634
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Speaker 3: stretches of baseball, even against bad teams. So nothing's for granted,

635
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, even with the Nats in town, like you

636
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: need to go take care of business. The Mets are

637
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Speaker 3: on the West coast. The Mets are you know, playing

638
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Speaker 3: San Diego in Arizona this week. You're at home playing Washington, like,

639
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: you need to win the series.

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Speaker 2: At the very least.

641
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: You got Sale, Morton and Ronaldo on the mound, so

642
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Laire again hopefully is coming back.

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Speaker 2: You need to win this series.

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Speaker 3: You know, that should be the that should be the absolute,

645
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: you know, the lowest possible outcome as you win to

646
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Speaker 3: a three. If you sweep, great, but you know, win

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Speaker 3: the series at the very least, you know, get some

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Speaker 3: revenge on Washington for for what they've done to you

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Speaker 3: earlier in the year, and hopefully maybe actually start to

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Speaker 3: get a little bit of a lead on the Mets.

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Speaker 3: You know, hopefully the Mets have a rough trip out

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Speaker 3: West against two really hot teams in San Diego and Arizona,

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Speaker 3: and the Braves can take care of business at home

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Speaker 3: and maybe actually build a little a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a lead. That would be that would be nice to see.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, nothing can't take anything for granted with the Nats.

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Speaker 3: They've they've kicked the Braves butt all year. So they

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Speaker 3: need Sale to come out and put you a great

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Speaker 3: one tomorrow night. And for the love of God, if

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Speaker 3: the offense could just put up like four or five runs,

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00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: that would you know, these two to one three to

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00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: two games are gonna kill me. Like, I just need

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Speaker 3: like a four spot or a five spot somewhere just

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Speaker 3: to alleviate some of the stress. If they could oblige that,

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Speaker 3: that would be that would be lovely.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to make sure that Steven has a defibrillator

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Speaker 1: next to him before we enter September, and if we

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Speaker 1: inner October, we're gonna have to. We're definitely gonna have

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Speaker 1: to make sure that Steven's got all the medical attention

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Speaker 1: that he needs. And I'm right there with him, Steven.

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Speaker 1: One other last question for this National Series. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about the offense. Do you still think it makes sense

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Speaker 1: with Solaire back to put him and Michael Harris in

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Speaker 1: front of Olson or in Ozuna and Olsen, or do

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Speaker 1: you potentially keep Wit mirror Field up there, maybe lower

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Speaker 1: Harris down in the lineup? Would you make any changes

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Speaker 1: still go with your best players? What do you think

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Speaker 1: your approach may be when it comes to the lineup

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Speaker 1: entering this series.

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Speaker 3: The only guys I would leave the same are Solaire, Ozuna,

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Speaker 3: and Olsen. I leave those guys one, three and four.

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Speaker 3: But if there's a lefty on the mound, I would

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Speaker 3: put like Louriano or our Maryfield batting second, and if

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Speaker 3: there's a righty on the mound, i'd put Michael Harris

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Speaker 3: like I wouldn't you know if if they if they've

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Speaker 3: got a lefty on the mound, I wouldn't have two

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Speaker 3: of your first four hitters be left handed, like tomorrow

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Speaker 3: night they face a lefty and McKinsey or I would

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Speaker 3: have so hopefully Celaire's back first of all, but if

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Speaker 3: he is back, I would have him one probably like

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Speaker 3: Loreano two and then Ozuna three. Try to get him,

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Speaker 3: you know, three straight lefties or three straight righties to

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Speaker 3: start the game and see if you can bust open

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Speaker 3: maybe a bit of a rally in the first inning.

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Speaker 3: And then when there's a ridy on the mount, stick

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Speaker 3: Harris up there. You know, I would try to. I

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Speaker 3: would try to get the platoon advantage as much as

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Speaker 3: I can with the lineup, especially now that you're you're

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Speaker 3: having all of these kind of minor players having to

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Speaker 3: step in and play roles. You know, these guys aren't

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Speaker 3: used to batting in one spot, so you can be

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Speaker 3: pretty aggressive with how you move around your lineup. When

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Speaker 3: there's a lefty on the mound, I'd have righty's at

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Speaker 3: the top. When there's a rioty on the mound, I'd

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Speaker 3: put Harris at the top and get another lefty in there,

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Speaker 3: you know, if I'm if I'm King in the World

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Speaker 3: or King of the Braves, at least that's.

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Speaker 2: How I would do it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, what they do tomorrow, if Silaire's back and the

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Speaker 3: Braves facing two lefties in this series, if they use

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Speaker 3: Loariana or Mierfield at the top, yeah, I'll be see

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Speaker 3: if they do that.

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Speaker 2: That does make sense.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Snit sometimes it just likes having his

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Speaker 3: you know, four guys at the top. I could see

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Speaker 3: him putting Harris there no matter what. But if it

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Speaker 3: was me, I would put a I'd put a few

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Speaker 3: Ritis up there, you know when the Nats they're roll lefty.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that stands out again is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: from Brian Snicker through this roster, I think there's just

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Speaker 1: a sense of urgency. I think that there is, you know,

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Speaker 1: a clear understanding that you know, you can't you rest

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Speaker 1: on your laurels anymore. You can't let things kind of

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Speaker 1: play out, you know, let things you know eventually work

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Speaker 1: out or things come to you. You need to go

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Speaker 1: grab the momentum. You need to make the most of it.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen from the offense to getting on base better,

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Speaker 1: the pitching staff kind of rounding back into form. We

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Speaker 1: see this team now clearly showing they understand that they

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Speaker 1: that there's no more time to waste. They've got to

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity taken care of to where they don't

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Speaker 1: have any more of these games where if they should win,

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Speaker 1: they wind up losing. They've got to get the series

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Speaker 1: winn or a series sweep this weekend. They absolutely have to,

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Speaker 1: especially riding the wave of momentum from this Philly series,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be a lot of fun to see.

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