Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Emily Chang and this is Bloomberg Studio
Speaker 1: one point oh, a series where I speak with the
Speaker 1: biggest influencers in technology and media. This is where we
Speaker 1: have in depth conversations with the very people shaping the
Speaker 1: future of innovation and business and hear their vision for
Speaker 1: what comes next. Today we dive deep down the YouTube
Speaker 1: rabbit hole with the CEO of the world's most popular
Speaker 1: video network. Since the very first YouTube video was uploaded
Speaker 1: sixteen years ago, YouTube has exploded to more than two
Speaker 1: billion users in the farthest corners of the planet, now
Speaker 1: raking in billions of dollars every year. It's evolved a
Speaker 1: long way from cat videos to become a one click
Speaker 1: journey to the center of the zeitgeist, pop culture and
Speaker 1: kid culture, amplifying some of the brightest and sometimes darkest
Speaker 1: traits in all of us. While YouTube has elevated a
Speaker 1: generation of creators and educated and entertained generations of viewers,
Speaker 1: it's fought misinformation, terrorism, racism, and violence many clicks along
Speaker 1: the way. Lately, YouTube's biggest battles are focused on eliminating
Speaker 1: COVID and vaccine misinformation and keeping the platform safe for
Speaker 1: kids and teens. On this edition of the Bloomberg Studio
Speaker 1: One Point podcast, will rewind to talk about where YouTube
Speaker 1: has been and fast forward to where it's going next,
Speaker 1: with one of the longest tenured employees and women at
Speaker 1: Google and the CEO of YouTube, Susan wijet Ski. Susan,
Speaker 1: it's so great to talk to you again. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. It's been five years since we last
Speaker 1: talked on camera, and we have a new president, we
Speaker 1: are weathering a pandemic. The most watch video on YouTube
Speaker 1: is baby Shark, Baby Shark, So a lot has changed since.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about YouTube? Ver? I feel good
Speaker 1: about it. Um, It's definitely been a while, and in technology,
Speaker 1: things moved so quickly, so a lot of things have
Speaker 1: changed since. And UM, I mean overall, I've been really
Speaker 1: pleased that we have continued to grow and grow our
Speaker 1: ecosystem of creators. UM. We've invested a lot in responsibility
Speaker 1: and UM that's been a really big focus for us.
Speaker 1: UM And you know, with weather through a pandemic and
Speaker 1: a lot of hard challenges. But overall, I'm feeling really good.
Speaker 1: You've been at Google for twenty plus years, going all
Speaker 1: the way back to Larry AND's are gay in the garage.
Speaker 1: You've been the CEO of YouTube for seven plus years.
Speaker 1: How has your job changed in that time since I
Speaker 1: joined being the CEO of YouTube? I would say one
Speaker 1: of the biggest things that has changed certainly has just
Speaker 1: been maybe the recognition of the importance of digital video.
Speaker 1: So when I first joined, actually a lot of people
Speaker 1: would say, oh, like, why did you join um UM.
Speaker 1: I was running ads beforehand and that was That's been
Speaker 1: the in way Google generates revenue, and so a lot
Speaker 1: of people said, like, why did you leave that and
Speaker 1: go to YouTube? But I always believed in digital video
Speaker 1: and I believe that now we see that the world
Speaker 1: also believes. We've seen a lot of adoption of digital
Speaker 1: video and the benefits that that can have. You've championed
Speaker 1: this diversification strategy at YouTube since you started. What's working
Speaker 1: and what's not working well. Our main way of generating
Speaker 1: revenue is from advertising, um, but we also have really
Speaker 1: grown our subscription revenue, and um that has been really
Speaker 1: really important from many different reasons. So that has enabled
Speaker 1: our users to have experience where they can have music,
Speaker 1: YouTube music and premium. We just announced the fifty million
Speaker 1: subscribers that we were really excited about UM. But we
Speaker 1: also see other ways that our creators generate revenue. So
Speaker 1: our creators, for example, generate revenue with channel subscriptions, they
Speaker 1: may sell merchandise. UM. We also have things like UM
Speaker 1: digital goods, so like UM super chat, um, super Thanks,
Speaker 1: and so we've basically diversified the number of ways that
Speaker 1: that our ecosystem is generating revenue. The original tagline for
Speaker 1: YouTube was broadcast yourself, and that concept has exploded. We
Speaker 1: have ordinary people in the spotlight. When they grow up,
Speaker 1: they want to be an influencer, they want to be
Speaker 1: a YouTube star or a YouTube creator. What do you
Speaker 1: see as the future of the creator economy. I see
Speaker 1: a lot of possibility with the creator economy, and because
Speaker 1: I see that many people have a lot of interest
Speaker 1: and they have a lot to offer, and beforehand they
Speaker 1: went up been able to have shared shared that with
Speaker 1: the world. And so there's so many people depending upon
Speaker 1: what their talent or their interest is, whether it's a
Speaker 1: sport or cooking or gaming or hairstyles, that people have
Speaker 1: come out and really been able to share that and
Speaker 1: create a lot of jobs. UM. So we actually see
Speaker 1: like our we actually saw thirty percent increase in the
Speaker 1: number of creators that are generating UM six figure income
Speaker 1: out of YouTube and in the last year. And so
Speaker 1: that's just an example of how the creator economy is
Speaker 1: continuing to grow well. And for years YouTube was the
Speaker 1: only company that actually paid creators, but now a lot
Speaker 1: of companies are paying creators, Facebook and Instagram, snap TikTok.
Speaker 1: How do you see that competition playing out? Who wins well?
Speaker 1: It is a competitive landscape and in general, competition is good.
Speaker 1: It makes everyone work harder and that's good. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: we look at creators and we say they're going to
Speaker 1: come to us if we do the best job. And
Speaker 1: creators come to us looking basically for fame and fortune,
Speaker 1: like how can I have a skill or I have
Speaker 1: a talent um something I want to share with the
Speaker 1: world like, and YouTube can help that be known, can
Speaker 1: help them provide that fame, but also we can generate
Speaker 1: revenue for them. Um. And so as long as we're
Speaker 1: doing a good job of that creator who are going
Speaker 1: to come to us, if we start to fail, then
Speaker 1: they're going to leave us and they're going to go
Speaker 1: to another platform. And so we just need to work
Speaker 1: really hard to make sure that we deliver that for
Speaker 1: our creators. A year ago, during the Black Lives Matter protest,
Speaker 1: YouTube made big commitments to black creators in particular. What's
Speaker 1: been the progress there and how do you see YouTube
Speaker 1: the potential for YouTube to be used as a tool
Speaker 1: for social justice. Well, so we've made an announcement that
Speaker 1: we were going to do a hundred million dollar Black
Speaker 1: Voices fund, um, And so we're continuing to develop content there. Um.
Speaker 1: But one of the other things, and I think there'll
Speaker 1: be there's been a lot of great content that's come
Speaker 1: out and will certainly see more. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: because YouTube doesn't have any gatekeepers like you can just
Speaker 1: post and become a creator. Um. You know, we've we
Speaker 1: have seen a lot of people of different backgrounds and
Speaker 1: underrepresented backgrounds become creators and have audiences. Um. We never
Speaker 1: really measured it beforehand because we didn't have a way.
Speaker 1: And so one of the things that we've done is
Speaker 1: we've been we've enabled creators to now tell us what
Speaker 1: backgrounds they they affiliate with, so we can have a
Speaker 1: better understanding of how they're doing on our platform. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about YouTube shorts. It seems to be a top
Speaker 1: priority we all know that TikTok is on the rise.
Speaker 1: How important are YouTube shorts to the platform, to the company,
Speaker 1: So YouTube firs it's very important. UM. We see that
Speaker 1: creators UM and users want to watch all types of content,
Speaker 1: long form, short form. It turns out that the first
Speaker 1: video that was actually ever uploaded to YouTube me at
Speaker 1: the Zoo was an eighteen second video, so it was
Speaker 1: a short form video. And what we have lots of
Speaker 1: short form views and we've had a way before TikTok did.
Speaker 1: But what we have really been leaning into more is
Speaker 1: just enabling those two be found UM and then a
Speaker 1: lot of the creation tools and so bringing a lot
Speaker 1: more mobile creation is really important for us going forward.
Speaker 1: Did you notice that viewing time was being lost to TikTok?
Speaker 1: Did you see that trend? And do you see TikTok
Speaker 1: as a sort of existential threat. I mean, we definitely
Speaker 1: see many competitors in this space. What we're just focused
Speaker 1: on our like our own metrics, like do we see
Speaker 1: our users engaging UM, where's our opportunity? We're always looking
Speaker 1: around and seeing what our competitors are doing and if
Speaker 1: they're doing something we think would be good for our
Speaker 1: users and our creators like you know, we're also gonna
Speaker 1: look at how we can improve our our own economy,
Speaker 1: creator economy and what's good for our users. This is
Speaker 1: my conversation with the CEO of YouTube, Susan Wichitzki. Coming
Speaker 1: up the video giants, war against COVID and vaccine misinformation
Speaker 1: and what about kids? We'll talk about how YouTube can
Speaker 1: keep children safe from toxic content. I'm etally chang. This
Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Studio. One point out stay with us. At
Speaker 1: this point. YouTube has become a hub for discovery, for
Speaker 1: information for you know, it satisfies our our curiosities. Right.
Speaker 1: That comes with a lot of inspiration, but also with
Speaker 1: misinformation when it comes to vaccines, vaccine hesitancy, videos that
Speaker 1: cause a public health risk. Where do you want to
Speaker 1: see YouTube do better? We've taken responsibility very seriously. It's
Speaker 1: been one of my top priorities. So first of all,
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that if there's information that
Speaker 1: violates our policies. We came up with ten different policies
Speaker 1: around COVID. Then if that's a violation of policies, then
Speaker 1: that's something that will remove. We removed over a million
Speaker 1: videos associated with COVID, but we also want to make
Speaker 1: sure that we're raising up information that we think would
Speaker 1: be that come from trusted and authoritative sources. And we've
Speaker 1: really been able to do that. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you know, we talk about vaccine hesitancy and
Speaker 1: they blame social media. They say YouTube not doing enough.
Speaker 1: You know, how do you respond to that? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think, well, first of all, we're always learning.
Speaker 1: I just just to be fair, like, we're always thinking
Speaker 1: about how can we do better. We're looking at the
Speaker 1: feedback and working with public health experts UM across the
Speaker 1: board and UM. You know, I think one of the
Speaker 1: big things for us is to continue to work with
Speaker 1: public health experts to understand, you know, what are the
Speaker 1: ways that we can partner with them to get their
Speaker 1: messages across UM. And I really believe that that is
Speaker 1: something that's really changed, is the is the evolution of
Speaker 1: bringing creators, musicians, experts talking about public health. We never
Speaker 1: would have seen that before the pandemic. How much do
Speaker 1: you internalize the criticism of of YouTube's content do you
Speaker 1: take it personally? And and and how does that influence
Speaker 1: the decisions that you make? Is CEO, I want to
Speaker 1: be doing the right thing, and I care about that.
Speaker 1: I care about the legacy that we leave. I care
Speaker 1: about the world that we leave to our children. I
Speaker 1: care about how media is consumed by the next generation
Speaker 1: and by by everyone today. And so I really have
Speaker 1: put a lot of time and effort to make sure
Speaker 1: that we are acting responsibly. UM. And there's always a
Speaker 1: balance between the free speech and uh right, but being
Speaker 1: responsible and taking down content that we think could lead
Speaker 1: to some kind of real world harm um. And so
Speaker 1: make sure, I think whenever you're in a position like that,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of criticism. UM. But
Speaker 1: our goal is just to continue to talk to experts
Speaker 1: and evolve and how do you make decisions in those
Speaker 1: tough moments where it's a tough call, Like how much
Speaker 1: of it is making a decision or leading by consensus
Speaker 1: and how much does it come down to you? The
Speaker 1: goal is that when we have tough decisions, they're not
Speaker 1: we're not they're like improvising in some way, like we've
Speaker 1: made a concrete set of decisions beforehand, and then we're
Speaker 1: looking and saying, is this something that meets our standards? Um?
Speaker 1: Is it a violation or not a violation? And if
Speaker 1: it seems like there's some set of issues with the
Speaker 1: content that we have on the platform. We're going to
Speaker 1: go back to experts and then reevaluate is it should
Speaker 1: we be making changes to our policies. YouTube helped keep
Speaker 1: a generation of children connected, educated, entertained, this drafted through
Speaker 1: the pandemic. What have you learned from that experience and
Speaker 1: what do you see as the potential future of YouTube
Speaker 1: as a tool for learning as a tool in schools.
Speaker 1: When I meet people and they find out on the
Speaker 1: CEO of YouTube, almost always they tell me about something
Speaker 1: they learned on YouTube or someone that they're something their
Speaker 1: family member learned UM. So I see that as being
Speaker 1: a very significant part of YouTube. And during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: we certainly saw that a lot more education went online,
Speaker 1: and we had all the homeschooling. We had people who
Speaker 1: had to also just learn a lot of skills that
Speaker 1: they hadn't learned beforehand. But probably the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: we also learned was just and that I really saw
Speaker 1: was a need for us to continue to work with
Speaker 1: educational UM institutions and the need for us to be
Speaker 1: able to integrate with some of the learning tools that
Speaker 1: the kids are all using because they are using YouTube,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot more that we can do to
Speaker 1: really help educators have YouTube be a key part of
Speaker 1: the curriculum. My kids are on YouTube a lot, and
Speaker 1: sometimes more than I want them to be, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it's super productive and they're learning something cool, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it's not productive at all. How are you innovating to
Speaker 1: make the time that kids spend on YouTube more valuable
Speaker 1: and of course safe. It's very important to me as
Speaker 1: a parent to make sure that we're giving parents options
Speaker 1: about how what they want their kids to see. And
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that pretty much as soon
Speaker 1: as I got to YouTube, we started working on YouTube
Speaker 1: kids um, which is a separate app, which is important
Speaker 1: for kids in terms of how we can control the
Speaker 1: quality and we can give parents a lot more control
Speaker 1: about what kind of content is appropriate for them and
Speaker 1: their family. And you know, there are many other things
Speaker 1: like we actually just came out with a supervised experience
Speaker 1: for tweens because tweens was one of the age groups
Speaker 1: that was actually hardest. They usually don't want to be
Speaker 1: on the kids app, but they're not thirteen to be
Speaker 1: on the on the main app, and so the supervised
Speaker 1: experience is something that we recently came out with. The
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal has been doing some in depth reporting
Speaker 1: on Facebook. UM. You know, the report is that Facebook
Speaker 1: knew that Instagram was toxic for teen girls and didn't
Speaker 1: do anything about it. Does YouTube look at the impact
Speaker 1: it has on on teen users, the influence that might
Speaker 1: have on on someone's body image or self esteem. First
Speaker 1: of all, I think it's a it's a very important topic.
Speaker 1: And UM we we UM do have a panel of
Speaker 1: experts that we work with to be able to help
Speaker 1: us understand what are the different ways that our product
Speaker 1: could be used or what are how do we face
Speaker 1: some of these challenging issues to make sure that we're
Speaker 1: getting the best advice UM and UM we certainly do
Speaker 1: see for a lot of really tough issues that YouTube
Speaker 1: can be a really valuable resource. So body positivity, mental health.
Speaker 1: We see a lot of creators actually talk about mental health.
Speaker 1: UM and that that for a lot of kids. UM,
Speaker 1: it's really like destigmatizes UM and enables people to talk
Speaker 1: about what's happening and what's going on with them. The
Speaker 1: potential long term impact of YouTube on teens and on children,
Speaker 1: whether it is toxic or whether it's addictive. Is that
Speaker 1: something that you wonder about, Is that something that you
Speaker 1: struggle with, not just as a CEO, but as a mom.
Speaker 1: We certainly want to make sure that we are doing
Speaker 1: what we can to be responsible with kids and in
Speaker 1: every way possible. Um. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: that we actually have worked hard to give parents as
Speaker 1: many options as possible for them to decide what is
Speaker 1: important for them and their family, whether that's like limiting
Speaker 1: screen time, like limiting what is the content they actually
Speaker 1: have access to. I mean even letting parents just say,
Speaker 1: these are like the ten videos, my kid can only
Speaker 1: see these ten videos, um. And so that is that
Speaker 1: is really important for us to give the tools back
Speaker 1: to parents for them to decide what is best for
Speaker 1: them and their family. You're listening to my conversation with
Speaker 1: Susan Wichitki, CEO of YouTube up next banning Trump censoring
Speaker 1: Russian content. How Wajitski and YouTube are at the center
Speaker 1: of some of the most controversial choices facing the tech
Speaker 1: industry yet, and with the Biden administration targeting big tech,
Speaker 1: the leaders of Facebook, Twitter, and Google have all been
Speaker 1: called to Capitol Hill. Is Wajitski herself willing to testify
Speaker 1: before Congress. I'm Emily Chang. This is Bloomberg Studio. At
Speaker 1: one point, Oh, stay with us. How much did President
Speaker 1: Trump test YouTube? And how much did it test you
Speaker 1: as a leader? Election integrity is something that we see
Speaker 1: incredibly is incredibly important, UM, and of leaned into in
Speaker 1: every way we've possibly can we treat all public figures
Speaker 1: and all public leaders the same as we treat any
Speaker 1: individual and so, meaning that everybody is held to the
Speaker 1: same standards. UM. And so we definitely UM held President
Speaker 1: Trump as we would hold all other presidents and all
Speaker 1: other elected officials to the same standards that we hold
Speaker 1: our creators and anyone else on YouTube. What was that
Speaker 1: difficult for you as the city of the company. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's like a big responsibility. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is difficult, but it is very important. And we
Speaker 1: also are global, so we're dealing with leaders from all
Speaker 1: over the world. UM. And there were a number of
Speaker 1: leaders that and they're continuing to be a number of
Speaker 1: leaders that that post or that there's content that may
Speaker 1: be a violation of our policies. UM. But we do
Speaker 1: hold a consistent standard across everything that we do. YouTube
Speaker 1: was the last platform to ban Trump, and you have
Speaker 1: said his channel will be reinstated when an elevated risk
Speaker 1: of violence has subsided. How and when specifically will you
Speaker 1: make that decision. Well, we'll make that decision based on
Speaker 1: a number of different factors, whether that is like events
Speaker 1: in the news, um, signals we're seeing from the from
Speaker 1: the government, um. And you will certainly continue to evaluate
Speaker 1: that based on a large number of signals that we see.
Speaker 1: And will he ultimately be reinstated. I mean, we've stated
Speaker 1: that we will reinstate him when we believe that there
Speaker 1: is no risk to public safety or no public danger.
Speaker 1: Google just remove a voting app for Russian opposition leader
Speaker 1: Alexei Navali. The Russian government seems to be stepping up
Speaker 1: requests to take down content. You've talked in the past
Speaker 1: about your family history, your grandparents living behind the Iron Curtain,
Speaker 1: being concerned about censorship back then, and Russia is a
Speaker 1: huge YouTube audience. How concerned are you about Russian government overreach.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we're is important to us
Speaker 1: at YouTube is the fact that we do enable so
Speaker 1: many voices and that we do enable people to express
Speaker 1: themselves and really celebrate the freedom of speech, um And
Speaker 1: we certainly you know that's that's a core value of ours.
Speaker 1: Um And. But when we work with governments are many
Speaker 1: things that we have to take in consideration, like whether
Speaker 1: it's like local laws or um what's happening on the ground.
Speaker 1: And so there's always going to be multiple considerations that
Speaker 1: we're going to have to take into consideration. I've only
Speaker 1: said that YouTube deleted a video. One of his videos
Speaker 1: was that at the request of the Russian government. We
Speaker 1: certainly get requests from governments, um and, and we look
Speaker 1: and consider what's you know, why are we getting the request,
Speaker 1: What's actually happening on the ground, um And, based on
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different factors, we make a decision. Um.
Speaker 1: So we don't always those are not always requests that
Speaker 1: makes sense for us to honor, but in certain cases,
Speaker 1: you know, we will honor them in that country. Biden
Speaker 1: administration seems to be targeting big tech. We've seen Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: We've seen Jack Dorsey now testify before Congress multiple times,
Speaker 1: and I've heard it said that YouTube is getting a pass.
Speaker 1: Do you think you should be up there testifying? Well,
Speaker 1: I think we do get a lot of scrutiny. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of scrutiny UM And because
Speaker 1: YouTube is part of Google, UM Center has testified a
Speaker 1: number of different times and answered many different questions on YouTube.
Speaker 1: So I do believe there's a certain amount of scrutiny.
Speaker 1: And you know, if if I were ever asked to testify,
Speaker 1: I certainly would go and testify as well. You're one
Speaker 1: of the most senior women at Google, if not the
Speaker 1: most senior woman at Google. Google has faced a lot
Speaker 1: of scrutiny for how it treats women in recent years.
Speaker 1: How much progress do you think Google has made in
Speaker 1: hiring and promoting women across the company and how much
Speaker 1: progress do you think still needs to be made. I
Speaker 1: see a really big effort across technology as a whole
Speaker 1: to be able to be more inclusive, and I think
Speaker 1: that is really positive. I've been a big supporter of it.
Speaker 1: It's the very beginning, UM. And I mean I think
Speaker 1: at Google there are many efforts and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of UM, a lot of work UM that has been done,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's a lot more for us to
Speaker 1: continue to do. And if you just look at the stats,
Speaker 1: you can see they're not enough women. We need more women,
Speaker 1: um in technology, and I think we have made a
Speaker 1: lot of progress, but it's still hard. It's hard to
Speaker 1: be it's harder to be a woman in technology, it's
Speaker 1: harder to be a minority of any kind. Um. And
Speaker 1: so I think there's still a lot of work for
Speaker 1: us to do. When we last book five years ago, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, I asked you about being a mom. You
Speaker 1: have five kids, and you said something that really stuck
Speaker 1: with me. You said, being a mom makes me a
Speaker 1: better leader. I prioritize better. I see something growing fast,
Speaker 1: and I run towards that. If something's growing closely, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't have time for that. How has that management
Speaker 1: strategy played out for you? I think it's played out
Speaker 1: really well. I think it's been. I mean, prioritization is
Speaker 1: everything when you look at it, because we have a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity. There's a lot of moving pieces, very
Speaker 1: dynamic environment. So if you can prioritize and say these
Speaker 1: are like the most important things to do, then you
Speaker 1: know you're going to get there faster. Larry and start
Speaker 1: going to have now left, how long do you plan
Speaker 1: to keep running YouTube? How long do you plan to
Speaker 1: stay at Google as long as I have a mission
Speaker 1: that I believe in and that I and thinks that
Speaker 1: I'm excited about getting done. So I have a lot
Speaker 1: of ways that I see that YouTube can continue to grow.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of products and ideas and things
Speaker 1: that aren't yet released and things that we don't aren't
Speaker 1: yet doing um, and I'm excited about getting those done.
Speaker 1: So I think if there comes a time where I
Speaker 1: no longer have a list of projects where I feel
Speaker 1: like I don't have that much more to add, than
Speaker 1: it will be probably time to do something else. Would
Speaker 1: you throw your hat into the ring to be alphabets
Speaker 1: next CEO or if the board asked you, would you
Speaker 1: step up and do that? Well? I think Sunder is
Speaker 1: doing a great job, very very um please, I think
Speaker 1: he's doing I mean, it's a very challenge job. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of different constituents and a lot of product,
Speaker 1: a lot of different issues um. And I mean I'll
Speaker 1: just say I'll always do whatever UM would be wherever
Speaker 1: I could be most helpful to the company. Do you
Speaker 1: still talk much to Larry and say I do still
Speaker 1: see them socially, though not not not work wise. Do
Speaker 1: you ever talk about work. I mean sometimes maybe casually,
Speaker 1: but our business is very complex right now, UM, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that are happening, and so
Speaker 1: it's hard for UM. I mean, people may have different opinions,
Speaker 1: but UM to really to to really engage at a
Speaker 1: long conversation. Why do you want your legacy to be?
Speaker 1: I am proud of the way that we've been able
Speaker 1: to enable people to have a a channel, to have
Speaker 1: an audience. Like I just met with a number of
Speaker 1: three three creators and like YouTube really was able to
Speaker 1: let them shine and create audiences in a business and
Speaker 1: employ people that otherwise never would have had. And so
Speaker 1: that's certainly one UM. Continuing to grow that, I'd say
Speaker 1: a second, it's been really important to me too to
Speaker 1: see a lot more women in technology. UM. That has
Speaker 1: been just a personal goal of mine is to be
Speaker 1: a role model and try to support women. And I
Speaker 1: feel very fortunate to be have gotten to where I have,
Speaker 1: and I know it was due to many different factors, UM,
Speaker 1: and I want to support the next generation of women
Speaker 1: and make se technology as like an open place where
Speaker 1: anyone can come and be successful. UH. And then probably lastly,
Speaker 1: continuing to grow what we're doing with education of YouTube.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for having me. Bloom
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