Speaker 1: Yo, what I mean? It's another edition of that bouleg
Speaker 1: Cap podcast episode number almost thirty, that's for sure, not
Speaker 1: quite thirty. I think it's twenty eight, twenty eight. It's
Speaker 1: twenty eight, episode number twenty eight with the homie J Mills.
Speaker 1: What a crazy day. First of all, got a shout
Speaker 1: out everybody who got nominated for Grammys, Roddy Rich the Baby,
Speaker 1: But most importantly, the Rap Album of the Year category
Speaker 1: was revealed, and boy was there a lot of rappin'
Speaker 1: ass rap on that category. Freddie gibbson Alchemist Alfredo headlining
Speaker 1: the Album of the Year nominations for Alfredo. Then of
Speaker 1: course you have a Jay Electronica's album, D Smokes Project,
Speaker 1: Royce the Five Nines Project, and NASA's King's Disease. So
Speaker 1: some real dope rap music got nominated for Grammys. I
Speaker 1: think personally, there was some obvious snubs in the Album
Speaker 1: of the Year category. There's no way you do Album
Speaker 1: of the Year and not put Roddy Rich in there. Also,
Speaker 1: Run the Jewels Killer, Mike LP Run the Jewels four
Speaker 1: should have been in that talk probably would have left
Speaker 1: off D Smoke, probably would have left off Jay Electronica,
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, Shout out to jay great project,
Speaker 1: but you know, the whole album jay Z just kind
Speaker 1: of washed him. Nonetheless, I hope Freddie Gibbs wins. It's
Speaker 1: my favorite album of the year. And congratulations to Gangs,
Speaker 1: the Gibbs and the Alchemists for being nominated finally because
Speaker 1: they got snubbed last year. Him and Madlib got snubbed
Speaker 1: last year. But I digress. YO dope episode this week.
Speaker 1: Shout out to j Mills formerly of Young Money. You know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because we had him come up just to
Speaker 1: do a freestyle. The freestyle's out right now on our
Speaker 1: YouTube page. But then we started to just shoot the
Speaker 1: shit with him and we're like, Yo, you should come
Speaker 1: in and do an interview because he's got so much
Speaker 1: crazy insight into the Young Money world because he was
Speaker 1: signed a Young Money for about a decade and was
Speaker 1: around for so many history moments. So this interview with
Speaker 1: J Mills. By the way, he's got a new album
Speaker 1: out go support that. But it really was us just
Speaker 1: kind of diving into his time with Young Money and
Speaker 1: him sharing some pretty dope stories about his time around
Speaker 1: Drake and Nicki and Wayne for the last decade or so,
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Speaker 1: into the episode. J Mills episode number twenty eight. Let's go,
Speaker 1: it's the bluele Camp podcast. Man, we got the homie
Speaker 1: J Mills. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. What's up man?
Speaker 1: Welcome sir? What up? What up? All right? Man? You
Speaker 1: got a new project that's officially out. Woodpan walls. By
Speaker 1: the time this is out, it'll be out. Yeah, woodpano
Speaker 1: walls with wood painted walls, wood panel, wood panel walls. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what's that? What's that like in a car you
Speaker 1: get the wood panel you know what it is? It's like, Uh.
Speaker 1: I grew up in New York City and Boston Heights,
Speaker 1: so a lot of those apartments was The architecture was
Speaker 1: real old school. It might have all, I know, the
Speaker 1: kind of walls you're talking. Yeah, it might have like
Speaker 1: five six rooms, but when you first come in, it's
Speaker 1: a long hallway, but it'll be a room on this side,
Speaker 1: then the room here, then a kitchen in the room here.
Speaker 1: Then So my grandmother had one of those apartments, right,
Speaker 1: And when I was born, I was living in my
Speaker 1: grandmam's crib. She from down South, had eleven kids, so
Speaker 1: the house was very busy, but I'm a virgo, so
Speaker 1: my memory bank is incredible. Like I can remember things
Speaker 1: that I probably shouldn't remember and I didn't even try
Speaker 1: to remember. But the woodpanel wallshit, it's stuck out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like rest in peace to my
Speaker 1: grandmom's too. Yeah, they got him trailed in my uncle's trailer.
Speaker 1: It's like wood, but it's not real wood. Is that
Speaker 1: what used to be on side of the station wagons too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so, you know Grizzwall Ride Wile World. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something like that, like threes think like Three's Company, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to look panels all and my
Speaker 1: Grandmam's crib was all like that. So when I went
Speaker 1: to do this project, kind of like what we was
Speaker 1: talking about the other day, I've come from an era
Speaker 1: of the radio record the street single to this record,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So this was the first
Speaker 1: time I was like, man, fuck all that, let me
Speaker 1: just record. Let me record a story, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I got so many stories, so many memories.
Speaker 1: Let me just record some ship that I could paint
Speaker 1: a picture from track one to track whatever's going to
Speaker 1: be the last one, no radio records. It ain't no
Speaker 1: party shit, no strip club shit. It ain't really too
Speaker 1: much with a bounce. But if you listen to it
Speaker 1: from beginning to end, it's a good story. Now I
Speaker 1: first knew of you from your battle and days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: way back in the day. It's a long time now
Speaker 1: we're getting we get in the years agoing like I
Speaker 1: didn't even know you. Just battled the nets again recently
Speaker 1: because I remember the original Yeah shouted shouting nets. You
Speaker 1: know that was an RB situation. He was in the band, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was in the band, And this is a big
Speaker 1: thing people don't hate. He was the only one that
Speaker 1: was dope in there. I think people I think I
Speaker 1: think people think I was trying to be a part
Speaker 1: of the band. Like I never was auditioning for the band.
Speaker 1: I was never trying to be in the band. It
Speaker 1: was just like did he call me and nit a
Speaker 1: battle nest? That's really all it was. I wasn't that
Speaker 1: was probably like was that like the first like like
Speaker 1: your biggest look at the time was to do at
Speaker 1: that time, that might have been my biggest look. I
Speaker 1: was still doing like street, But I don't know if
Speaker 1: I had no No No out yet. I don't think
Speaker 1: I had I don't know if I had the Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers deal yet. I think I was still doing like
Speaker 1: battling mixtape type shit. But yeah, I mean coming. I
Speaker 1: mean obviously, you go from the Battle world where you're
Speaker 1: like a legend, and then you had the No No
Speaker 1: No record. I remember having that right now final yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But then there's like a whole other wave of people
Speaker 1: who just know you from being from Young Money. So
Speaker 1: you and Wayne and the Young Money situation, Uh, how
Speaker 1: like when did that start and how did it initially
Speaker 1: happen because at the time, it was what just you
Speaker 1: and Nikki. They were from the East Coast from New York.
Speaker 1: It was me and Nicky. But he was fucking with
Speaker 1: Cory Guns too shot Oh yeah yeahyah. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't know if Guns was I don't know if
Speaker 1: Guns I don't think he ever signed officially, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was signed or whatever yet. But
Speaker 1: I remember he had the Millie remix Yah, and he
Speaker 1: was fucking with guns. I feel like he was on
Speaker 1: the original Yeah yeah, yeah. Guns might have been around
Speaker 1: Young Money before me. Guns and NICKI might have been
Speaker 1: around Young Money before me, but nothing was really solidified.
Speaker 1: Nicky was definitely around around, but me and Guns was
Speaker 1: kind of like Wayne just fucked with us. He just
Speaker 1: liked that rapping type shit. But yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was that situation. I think around the time I started
Speaker 1: fucking with Wayne might have been like two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: I want to say like two thousand and seven because
Speaker 1: this is the situation with me and Wayne. I'm explaining this.
Speaker 1: I had a song called how Had a Player? And
Speaker 1: I don't know if people knew or not, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't signed to Universal no more. This is like when
Speaker 1: Sylvia Ron came over and everything changed, like and you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm from the radio era. I'm from
Speaker 1: that era of the single and all of this shit.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to just keep my record going because
Speaker 1: I know I don't got no deal no more. So
Speaker 1: I'm doing shit like this is it six. I'm doing
Speaker 1: shit like recording myself, taking the curses out and texting
Speaker 1: DJ Enough or DJ Camillo or k Slade like or
Speaker 1: flex like y'all got this new record? Now? This is
Speaker 1: usually coming from a department. Now, it's like you're sending
Speaker 1: me a shit directly. Well, all right, cool, we fuck
Speaker 1: with you, So yeah, just send it. And now I
Speaker 1: started getting radio play, and I'm like, damn, I'm noticing.
Speaker 1: I'm getting play like mixed show played twice a day.
Speaker 1: You might get the rush hour play. You might get
Speaker 1: the traffic hour, traffic jam play, seven o'clock play. You know,
Speaker 1: later on somebody else come on to twelve. I might
Speaker 1: have heard my shit four or five times today. I
Speaker 1: don't got no deal with my mom's crib real shit.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't go on to another record.
Speaker 1: I'm smart enough to know that I cannot go on
Speaker 1: to another record. I got son going right now. So
Speaker 1: I hit Wayne right like, uh, I got this record.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's bubbling in New York
Speaker 1: right now. If you want to jump on, and I
Speaker 1: sent it to you. I'm really just taking a shot
Speaker 1: in the dark. I don't I don't know if he
Speaker 1: gonna get on this shit or not. But I had
Speaker 1: a record called Bring It Back with Jada Kiss, and
Speaker 1: then I did a remix with Wayne and Fab. Wayne said,
Speaker 1: come to the studio. I shot the Fab shot the kiss.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Granted, they was they busy
Speaker 1: but Wayne told me come to the studio and did
Speaker 1: it that night and then charged me nothing. This is
Speaker 1: when he doing like three hundred records in it. So
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, I'm just taking shit. I'm
Speaker 1: shooting from half court in a dark gym on all
Speaker 1: of these moves right now. I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Send him the record. He send the record back next day.
Speaker 1: So my brother is like the super little Wayne fan
Speaker 1: at this time. He like, BROH heard that verse before.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he just did this verse with me
Speaker 1: last night. He said, not, bro I heard that verse before.
Speaker 1: IM gonna be real like he ain't want to say
Speaker 1: like that, but he's like he pulled the verse up,
Speaker 1: all sorts of egg all on my face now. So
Speaker 1: now I'm faced with the decision. Do I act like
Speaker 1: I do not know that this man said this verse
Speaker 1: already and still put this song out, or can I
Speaker 1: just hit him and just be like, yo, I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: but I can't put this out, you know, blah blah.
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh my fht blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Next day, sent me another verse back and said some
Speaker 1: shit in the junk like Miles had to tell me
Speaker 1: stop recycling verses, and since I don't write it, I
Speaker 1: recited in cursive. I was like, oh, that's personalized for me.
Speaker 1: That ain't like he just gave me a verse from
Speaker 1: some a dedication mixtape that didn't come out right. So
Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh, that shot you took in the
Speaker 1: dark gym, you hit the rim on that shit like
Speaker 1: you might could stand in this dark gym a little more,
Speaker 1: but just try to get closer to where you hit
Speaker 1: the rim at. So now I'm like, yo, look man,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no situation. I know you're doing the
Speaker 1: young money shit. You know what I'm saying. If I
Speaker 1: coul come play some music, he said, you don't got
Speaker 1: no deal? Coury right back. So I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: done on that verse like that versus a dub. He's not.
Speaker 1: I don't got no budget. I don't he knows now
Speaker 1: I don't have money to give him for the verse.
Speaker 1: He caught me back with Taz on the phone. He's like,
Speaker 1: when can you get on a flight? He said, but
Speaker 1: tell me this again. You said you don't got no vert,
Speaker 1: no deal, right, I said, nah? He said, well when
Speaker 1: can you get on a flight to Miami. Now I'm
Speaker 1: in Harlem. I'm like, I get on a flight yesterday.
Speaker 1: He started laughing. After that flight, I was young money
Speaker 1: until I wasn't young money no more. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: so that was six. That was like, oh that's around
Speaker 1: six o seven. It was around. It was right before
Speaker 1: you know how reason three was right before the car three.
Speaker 1: When I got around. I remember the first time out.
Speaker 1: He flew me out. After that conversation, I went to
Speaker 1: the Hit Factory and when he walked in, he started
Speaker 1: just playing me a bunch of music and shit, and
Speaker 1: I remember he played Lollipop. I'll never forget this shit.
Speaker 1: This is when I was like, oh yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: step my shit up a whole lot like that. I'm
Speaker 1: a nice rapper, it's a huge I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: a good rapper. He's a great artist. And I have
Speaker 1: no problem at all. I have no problem with saying
Speaker 1: that because Wayne is my man. I love Wayne unconditionally.
Speaker 1: He showed me shit that no other friend showed me.
Speaker 1: No of a homie, no of a businessman, of a ceo,
Speaker 1: no of a rapper. He showed me. And it was
Speaker 1: hard on me with that ship too. But I learned
Speaker 1: a lot, so I'm like, I'm like, damn, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is this? But it sounded like the T Pain.
Speaker 1: T Pain was killing everything at this time. But now
Speaker 1: I'm I know Wayne from Dad, and now it's like
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, damn, how he do that shit?
Speaker 1: Like now he playing me a bunch of shit? He
Speaker 1: played me got money. Now I had had to beat
Speaker 1: for got money from playing skills or they had played
Speaker 1: me like, you know, beat that gaming to beat, so
Speaker 1: I knew. I was like, oh I heard this ship before,
Speaker 1: all right, let me just sit here and listen to
Speaker 1: his version. I was like, oh shit, he got T
Speaker 1: pain on it. That's what that's the plan that they played.
Speaker 1: When they played me the song like oh he I
Speaker 1: was like, woy, I wouldn't have not made this song
Speaker 1: like this, right, Glad they didn't get a ship to me, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad they didn't waste this record with me
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have never made this this, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Carter three wasn't out yet. He
Speaker 1: was still doing like college arenas and ship like that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like the I Am music. It was still
Speaker 1: like and then like a lot of the Carter three leaked,
Speaker 1: he was still performing a lot of the leak shit.
Speaker 1: He was still performing. Were you around when the music
Speaker 1: leaker had that already been leaked. I was starting to
Speaker 1: come around. I was still like just doing my like
Speaker 1: I wasn't on Universe, And I just remember like being
Speaker 1: at because I used to slang shit at the swap meet.
Speaker 1: They're talking my name, So I remember just having to
Speaker 1: every little Wayne tape. There was like Carter three fucking leaks,
Speaker 1: the drought, the droughts, and then it was like, I
Speaker 1: mean obviously before that the squad up shit, but like
Speaker 1: that that like era, like right before Carter three, like
Speaker 1: the like twelve months prior, when he was just heating
Speaker 1: up the mixtape shit. It was like that's what really
Speaker 1: got Wayne hot up top. I mean he was already
Speaker 1: hot since he was fucking thirteen fourteen, but I mean
Speaker 1: like reinventing himself from being like a little wheezy to
Speaker 1: like the fire man. Well, no one took little Wayne
Speaker 1: like serious. No, he had to start saying, I'm the
Speaker 1: best rapper alive since the best rapper retired, because he
Speaker 1: had to start had to make that statement. And then
Speaker 1: he just started. And then I remember he performed on
Speaker 1: the BT Awards. He performed gossip. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: stop hating on a nigga that no remember that moment.
Speaker 1: No hype man on like an EP. It wasn't even
Speaker 1: on his It was a leak. It was a leak.
Speaker 1: It was a leak. Like you didn't like Wayne once
Speaker 1: I got around him, That's what made me realize, Oh
Speaker 1: I remember that. I was like, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: first single for Carter three, and then nah, he didn't
Speaker 1: get he was one of them type people when songs
Speaker 1: leaked him. He like like he called those dead homies
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, yet what he did with uh?
Speaker 1: Because you know, being the youngest dude in Cash Money,
Speaker 1: I feel like as a rapper, there wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of people who with credibility that probably took him serious
Speaker 1: until the first Carter when he started popping his shit.
Speaker 1: That's that's around the time because five hundred degrees was whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the block is Hot was dope.
Speaker 1: I think if you really were a Cash Money fan,
Speaker 1: you knew little Wayne crap. Yeah, But like people like
Speaker 1: like you said, like once that first Carter came out,
Speaker 1: I remember working a best buy man when that shit dropped.
Speaker 1: That shit was I remember the first time I heard
Speaker 1: being U being Junior. Mm hmm, is that the puttest
Speaker 1: feeding the blades. I ain't tripping nigga. I played the
Speaker 1: corner like ripkin Nigga with the forty. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he in a different world. But Carter two was was
Speaker 1: when because by this time I'm deep in rap. I'm deep.
Speaker 1: I'm an artist. I didn't have my ups, my downs,
Speaker 1: and my high points my low points. I read credits,
Speaker 1: I read magazines. I want to know people that go
Speaker 1: to school late. But I'm walking in the lunch room
Speaker 1: with the Source magazine, the Double Excel, the Blaze. I
Speaker 1: might have the vibe that might Blaze magazine. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: might have had fucking the free styles of people. Get
Speaker 1: your tape decks ready last night on DJ Clue the
Speaker 1: fucking fire Truck. I was that type of kid. So
Speaker 1: when I heard Carter too, like, oh ship, this is
Speaker 1: the first time I heard of Wayne album with no
Speaker 1: many fresh production and it was dope. Now I get
Speaker 1: to hear him compare to everybody else. Now, now damn
Speaker 1: me rapping over the heat makers. Who the fuck are
Speaker 1: the runners. Who you know what I'm saying. So around
Speaker 1: that time I got with Wayne, that shit showed me
Speaker 1: a lot. It was to bring it back full circle.
Speaker 1: It was around that time, right before Carter three. That's
Speaker 1: around the time I got with Young Money. Help me understand.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, so Young Money mm hmm. There's obviously the
Speaker 1: product of Young Money is two of the biggest artists
Speaker 1: of all time, Drake and Nikki. But there was all
Speaker 1: these other rappers, so many let's talk about it. There
Speaker 1: was you, there was Gotta Gotta I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Macmaine was the President, but you know it was a
Speaker 1: rapper for Shout Shout the Mac. Surprise, Mac never got
Speaker 1: a solo album off the President. You wanted some funny shit.
Speaker 1: When I first came around Young Money, I remember Mac
Speaker 1: was telling me then like I want to be on
Speaker 1: some balls ship this rapper, like he was tired of it. Then, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, like, bro, you I used to
Speaker 1: I used to send him so much ship let's get
Speaker 1: on his beat. Let's because I was I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of Mac Man, I'm a fan of the Squad, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of Win. So I wanted to just do
Speaker 1: all Sorts Hill with everybody. And then I was the
Speaker 1: person that used to when Wayne would fly me out,
Speaker 1: I would bring my inbox and my computer and my
Speaker 1: my m audio speakers in the hotel room that he
Speaker 1: has me or would never go to the bus where
Speaker 1: he's at. I would just be in the room just recording.
Speaker 1: And I remember one day I think gut or Twist
Speaker 1: told him He's like, what mails And He's like, he
Speaker 1: upstairs recording? What are you doing? You're recording hisself? Promise you.
Speaker 1: The next day I came downstairs on Wayne's tour bus.
Speaker 1: He had all that ship learned how to record itself.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, quick quick, Uh but no, but we're talking
Speaker 1: like a vast amount of artists, like you just said,
Speaker 1: Little Twist sew piercing right me guns Maneople, and it
Speaker 1: seems Tiger Tiger, Nikki Drake. It just seemed like, uh,
Speaker 1: being on young money could more too, that's the crazy
Speaker 1: put a lot more. But it could be perceived to
Speaker 1: be a gift in a curse. T Streets shot my
Speaker 1: man T Streets, T Streets, But like, what why do
Speaker 1: you think? Uh? It didn't work out for everybody, And
Speaker 1: by everybody, I mean the majority of the artists on
Speaker 1: the label. I tell people this all the time. It
Speaker 1: never works out for everybody. Once you understand that, It's like,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at this picture of Charles Barkley right now,
Speaker 1: and it's taking me somewhere right. I want to explain
Speaker 1: people something. There was a lot of great people on
Speaker 1: the Sixers when Barkley came, a lot of great people
Speaker 1: uh on the Lakers when Kobe came. I always tell
Speaker 1: I always tell people, I know what it feels like
Speaker 1: to be Eddie Joe. I know what it feels like
Speaker 1: to be Eddie Jones. Not saying that I'm not nice,
Speaker 1: I'm not great, but I know what it was like
Speaker 1: to be great. And somebody comes around and they are undeniable.
Speaker 1: You can go in the studio and make the dopest
Speaker 1: shit you want. Aubrey is undeniable. I remember the first
Speaker 1: time Wayne let me hear successful, I was like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: this shit is dope. The next time I heard it,
Speaker 1: Wayne had a different verse. Said why you got a
Speaker 1: different verse? So I sent it to Drake and he
Speaker 1: said he didn't really he liked the verse, but he
Speaker 1: didn't really think it went with the concept of the song.
Speaker 1: I said, he made you do a verse over damn,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it showed me to
Speaker 1: respect Wayne had for him because he did the same
Speaker 1: thing for me. He did the same thing for me.
Speaker 1: Did it over? I respect you? You know what You're right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that just brings me
Speaker 1: back to the whole. It was a lot of artists
Speaker 1: would happened. It was a lot of artists on cash money.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of artists on no limits, a
Speaker 1: lot of artists on death roll. But I remember Snoop
Speaker 1: Pot and the Dog Pound, not saying Lady of Rage
Speaker 1: or jewell or or crook or or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm say. It's not to say that they wasn't great.
Speaker 1: Was a part of it after like the dark years
Speaker 1: of death throw. It's not to say that they wasn't great.
Speaker 1: But Nikki was undeniable, Drake was undeniable out of let's say,
Speaker 1: if it was ten of us, because it was all
Speaker 1: it was like ten, ten, eleven of us. It was
Speaker 1: a lot to hit with three the way that you hit. Now.
Speaker 1: Some people might say, males, you being a little too
Speaker 1: cordial about that, my nigga, because you wasn't one of
Speaker 1: those three. It's how it works sometimes, keep it moving,
Speaker 1: figure it out. That wasn't my first stop on the train.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be my last. I came there with
Speaker 1: Dil's already. A lot of people came there that was
Speaker 1: their first time, that was their first rodeo. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't fell off the horse, did
Speaker 1: all of this shit already, so this isn't new to me.
Speaker 1: I know that this shit ain't gonna last forever. And
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people they thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna last forever. I think with Tiger, he had
Speaker 1: been around, he had been with gym class heroes. He
Speaker 1: had poking up milk. He had understood how to make
Speaker 1: this ship work. Drake had already been comeback season. I
Speaker 1: would almost argue that that Tiger popped despite little Wayne.
Speaker 1: He did Wayne it tune, I Love you, I Love
Speaker 1: you tune? All right, Tiger will tell you this. Wayne
Speaker 1: didn't like that direction that Tiger was going in, like
Speaker 1: make it nasty, rack city, bitch, better have my money
Speaker 1: dancing for them dollars? Uh? What was the joint? He
Speaker 1: had asked? So fat and neither lapped in Wayne wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling that because you gotta understand that's not the vision
Speaker 1: Wayne saw for him when he first met him. You Tiger, Tiger,
Speaker 1: you like your bouncy flow like kind of like so
Speaker 1: and sos of mischief type shit. You different You like
Speaker 1: a real West Coast lyrical crafty with your words. And
Speaker 1: now you going strip club or me, they don't even
Speaker 1: really have strip clubs where you act like that, like
Speaker 1: where it is coming from. It was kind of like
Speaker 1: when I used to first got around Young Money. You
Speaker 1: listen to Dedication three, my bars was like on top
Speaker 1: of each other, on top of each other. Even anytime
Speaker 1: I did mixtapes for Young Money, my bars was on
Speaker 1: top of each other like that. And that's because Wayne
Speaker 1: taught me how to differentiate it. She ain't got a man,
Speaker 1: but she's not alone misindependent. Yeah, she got her own. Hey,
Speaker 1: I hated that verse. That was the end of my verse.
Speaker 1: Wayne said, naw, you know what, I think you should
Speaker 1: start the verse off like that, because that's more like
Speaker 1: that's a memorable and I'm just like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I was more until I got a bitch Nakekeisha from
Speaker 1: around the way. She used to go to college school
Speaker 1: back and the day he was like, oh shit, that's dope.
Speaker 1: That's why he just wanted me to talk crazy all
Speaker 1: day because in his mind his vision for me was
Speaker 1: they already know you for talking crazy. You said big
Speaker 1: in my trouble or what da da dah, and I
Speaker 1: put a gun in your feet. We love you for that,
Speaker 1: So you get a pass to do that, because Little
Speaker 1: Chucky and Little Twist can't do that. They not known
Speaker 1: for that. They gotta be kids still, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he had visions for all of us.
Speaker 1: He never really wanted all of us to be like
Speaker 1: signed to Young Money. He wanted us to be Young
Speaker 1: Money a group and we do some Wu tang shit
Speaker 1: and all get deals. I know, this sounds like crazy,
Speaker 1: This sounds like yeah right, Mills he did. He never
Speaker 1: really wanted us all to be signed to him. He
Speaker 1: wanted to give us a platform and we go rep
Speaker 1: Young Money and get deals and bags everywhere. But we
Speaker 1: still like this fucking conglomerate on some shit. Because in
Speaker 1: his mind, the Hot Boys was all solo artists. True,
Speaker 1: so like they if Birdman could put me in the studio,
Speaker 1: beg and juvenile. I don't want to hear y'all say
Speaker 1: nothing about me putting y'all in the studio with a
Speaker 1: little Chucky and Little Twists. Yeah, I mean, go Chucky,
Speaker 1: little Twist, God bless him. Look, there was some times
Speaker 1: that we drop off. There were some times that we
Speaker 1: was like, tune check this out. Bro. We love you, man,
Speaker 1: we love you, but come on, man, it's five forty
Speaker 1: five am. Man, it's beeping looping for We don't really
Speaker 1: want to do this. But but I knew that a
Speaker 1: lot of to see me. I knew a lot of
Speaker 1: the shit that Wayne used to do to us was
Speaker 1: a test. It was like boot camp. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of y'all. I need to see who really wanted you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I need to see who gonna
Speaker 1: go hard? Like it ain't really about who nice. You
Speaker 1: could be dead nice, but you might be lazy. Was
Speaker 1: there ever? Like there's hell of rumors of internal issues
Speaker 1: with people in Young Money. I mean, uh, you said
Speaker 1: Chucky and Twist didn't get along. It was internal issues everywhere,
Speaker 1: but not like not like not like beef, Like Me
Speaker 1: and Twist had they thing because they was like they
Speaker 1: were kids. It was like the kid who's the who's
Speaker 1: the young money young and who's the prince of young money?
Speaker 1: And then Chanelle and Nikki they never had a thing,
Speaker 1: but to me it felt like it because it's like, well,
Speaker 1: who's the lady of young Money. Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: was pretty evident, not in the beginning, Not in the
Speaker 1: beginning when we all used to have to do group
Speaker 1: photo shoots and shit like that. You gotta remember, Nikki
Speaker 1: was coming from Come Up DVD. Chanelle was coming from
Speaker 1: being a songwriter and a dancer for Neo. Two different things,
Speaker 1: totally different at that time. I'm talking about ten years ago,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was a different thing.
Speaker 1: Like Drake wasn't what he is now. He was like
Speaker 1: coming from the grass Sea. He was more known for
Speaker 1: the grassy than people respected him as a rapper. It
Speaker 1: took a very long time for people to respect Drake
Speaker 1: as a rapper. But I think it was so much
Speaker 1: music we was in that digital era that once you
Speaker 1: got so far gone, you was like he alright, no,
Speaker 1: he was fucking incredible, but you just didn't want to
Speaker 1: say he was incredible, because it's like, damn, Wayne's still incredible.
Speaker 1: Then after I was like well, who's more incredible. Then
Speaker 1: after a while it's like, damn, Nikki kind of high too,
Speaker 1: and then you kind of for Tiger. I feel like
Speaker 1: Tiger was the first one to get lost in it.
Speaker 1: When I seen Tiger get lost in it, I said,
Speaker 1: it's bad for me. Mmm, that's real shit. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep it a buck. I said, it's bad for me
Speaker 1: because Tiger had a setup, right, yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that time he was managed by Jay Irvin. I
Speaker 1: don't know. T don't don't don't kill me for this.
Speaker 1: I don't really know the specifics of it, but I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember me and Gutter used to talk a lot.
Speaker 1: Me and GUTTI start, I talked, spoke the gutta gut
Speaker 1: over the shout, the Gutter shout to the whole young
Speaker 1: Money period. Me and Gutter used to talk a lot
Speaker 1: right about just the way shit was going. Because Guttter
Speaker 1: used to he was around before me, and when I
Speaker 1: first got the young money, Wayne told me, if you
Speaker 1: want to know how to stay around me, like how
Speaker 1: to if you really want to know me, stick to him?
Speaker 1: He told me. I remember when I first came around,
Speaker 1: he was like He's like he knows me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you if you want to know me,
Speaker 1: you want to know how not to get on my
Speaker 1: bad side, how not to you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: How to move around me? Stick to him? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And to this day, I still talk
Speaker 1: to Gutt to Gutter. You know what I'm saying. He's
Speaker 1: not on your money anymore. He's so young money, so
Speaker 1: young money. They gotta they gotta rec it out right now.
Speaker 1: I think it's Wayne Gutter and Hood called NFL. It's
Speaker 1: for like the prime video for Thursday Night Football. It's
Speaker 1: like the song for some dope shit, but basically bring
Speaker 1: it to bring it back. Gut. It was like, how
Speaker 1: you think this shit gonna go for US malls? And
Speaker 1: I was like, it's a chain. I was like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Drake is undeniable, Nicki undeniable.
Speaker 1: We don't know who gonna come first out of them.
Speaker 1: And then Wayne went to jail in the midst of them,
Speaker 1: being like like yeah, So by the time he came
Speaker 1: out of jail, Nicky was pink Wig, Marg Simpson. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, and Drake was Aston Martin music
Speaker 1: and he was he was. He was. They was coming
Speaker 1: into their own and then I remember six foot seven,
Speaker 1: and then Wayne was right back to being Wayne, and
Speaker 1: then it was like damn. Now it's like Big three.
Speaker 1: But Tiger, me and Gutter used to always be like, damn,
Speaker 1: Tiger putting in work. I would come out here to
Speaker 1: Cali to see my lady and had kid on the
Speaker 1: way at that time, and I'd be like, Tiger, keep
Speaker 1: a song on the radio. Now maybe we in Miami
Speaker 1: or New York, we might not hear that ship like that.
Speaker 1: But when I used to come here before I moved here,
Speaker 1: and I moved here in twenty fifteen, so this is
Speaker 1: like eleven, twelve, thirteen, whatever. Yeah, I call his Molly
Speaker 1: mal Era. When he was in Vegas for MA, he
Speaker 1: was hitting he shit called strip hop going up, and
Speaker 1: there was I think that's where a lot of the
Speaker 1: he was. He was hitting, and he was like branding
Speaker 1: himself in that lane of like bop that DJ muzzle
Speaker 1: on that he would bring himself City Low kids the
Speaker 1: record that really blew. Didn't feel like they was like
Speaker 1: it felt like he was forcing their hand, like you
Speaker 1: got it now you And I felt like, damn if
Speaker 1: he gotta force they hand. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta figure some shit out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I was throwing shit. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure shit out. But you gotta remember in the
Speaker 1: midst of that, Wayne is Wayne, Drake is Drake, and
Speaker 1: he's only coming bigger. Nicky is Nicki, and the Barbie
Speaker 1: is only becoming bigger. So now we gotta sustain this.
Speaker 1: We gotta sustain Wayne, Nicki, Drake, Tiger's doing this thing,
Speaker 1: but they're keeping the lights on. Nicky and Drake kept
Speaker 1: the lights on when Wayne went the Rikers, Allen keeping
Speaker 1: it a buck. So now all right, now we're touring,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, how do we do the tours? Now?
Speaker 1: Who's gonna open, who's gonna close? Oh, he's not going
Speaker 1: out with us, he's going out on his own. Or
Speaker 1: she's doing her own tour she's taking. So now I'm
Speaker 1: peeping like this one I realized this ship is really
Speaker 1: really different, and it happened fast. I remember Drake did
Speaker 1: Club Paradise. That was the name of Drake. I was hot.
Speaker 1: What were you about? I loved Drake, but I was hot.
Speaker 1: I think me and I think me and Gutta gut
Speaker 1: It might have been I don't know if gut It
Speaker 1: was too hot, but I was hot, and I think
Speaker 1: I was hot because I was thinking something was gonna
Speaker 1: go a certain way, Like did you think you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be on the tour? Yes, I will completely.
Speaker 1: I was every that was big, that was basically everybody
Speaker 1: that was doing the same thing that we were doing
Speaker 1: at that time that wasn't with Young Money. I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember, and I loved Drake. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I loved Drake with all my heart. Man. I love Nikki,
Speaker 1: I love Tiger, Wayne Gutta, mac Maine, Twist, I love
Speaker 1: all the everybody that was a part of that ride
Speaker 1: who were young Money whoever. We still because me and
Speaker 1: Tiger not young money no more. But I I'm not
Speaker 1: covering my young Money tattoo, like I still sign my
Speaker 1: checks and you still see it. Because that was a
Speaker 1: decade of my life. That was a that was like
Speaker 1: a real period of my life. But there were a
Speaker 1: lot of times that in that period I started to see, oh,
Speaker 1: we're label mates, we homies, but we're label mates, and
Speaker 1: you can't you can't forget that because you didn't grow
Speaker 1: up with these people. You met these people on some
Speaker 1: business shit, so people people get traded. At this time,
Speaker 1: we still got the same uniform on. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it like, damn, I would have thought we could
Speaker 1: at least open up. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: thro take us out there like Tune took you or
Speaker 1: or Nikki too. You know what I'm saying, like, take
Speaker 1: us out there like you took dadg Loaf or this
Speaker 1: one and this one. Even if we not hot, like that,
Speaker 1: make us hot. Somebody made you hot now once again,
Speaker 1: to be fair, to be fair, this is just me
Speaker 1: and my feeling here at that time as a younger artist.
Speaker 1: I'm in my feelings because I'm like, yo, we crewe
Speaker 1: we We didn't both had to go chase the tour
Speaker 1: people around for pudem before. Like did you communicate that
Speaker 1: to Drake or did Drake ever like know that you
Speaker 1: you were? Once again, what I'm saying is, at that time,
Speaker 1: we were in our feelings about shit. I'm saying might
Speaker 1: have been in his feelings about shit with us that
Speaker 1: we don't know about. You know, he might have been
Speaker 1: in his feelings with about Wayne or Tesz or you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was times that Wayne might
Speaker 1: have been in his feelings with some shit about tests
Speaker 1: and Drake might have paid for it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it might have been some times that
Speaker 1: Wayne wasn't He just wasn't fucking with New York. And
Speaker 1: when I walk in the room, it's just like fucking
Speaker 1: old New York ass nigga nothing. It's not like the
Speaker 1: end of the world. It's not in person, but you
Speaker 1: gotta think when you around people. As long as we
Speaker 1: was around each other, young money, shit was a long ride.
Speaker 1: That shit wasn't like no two three year you hot
Speaker 1: and then you hear it's like nah, we all went
Speaker 1: from one bus. We was all on Wayne bus to
Speaker 1: now it's Wayne Buss and an artist bus. Now we're
Speaker 1: all on the artist bus. To now it's Wayne Buster,
Speaker 1: artist bus, Drake Bus, Nikki Bust, the band bust, the
Speaker 1: dancers bus, the chef bust, the crew. Like that shit changed.
Speaker 1: I went from doing clubs to performing in front of
Speaker 1: When I say Jay, you say males, Jay, Jay, where
Speaker 1: you at Milsey? And then my shit come on and
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I never heard people scream for me
Speaker 1: like that. So it was a hell of a ride.
Speaker 1: But in along that ride, you did learn shit. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You did learn that, Yo, Drake,
Speaker 1: don't gotta do nothing for you nothing. Now, once I
Speaker 1: got that through my head, I was cool. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not tripping. If he come out
Speaker 1: with six or seven albums and I'm not on none
Speaker 1: of them, I could still find the dopeness in the
Speaker 1: fucking album. It's like, it's cool, bro, It's not the
Speaker 1: end of the world if somebody don't pull you along,
Speaker 1: like especially if you never told me you was gonna
Speaker 1: pull me along and it's all in your head. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Did you ever help Wayne with
Speaker 1: any writing? Because and this is a thing too, I
Speaker 1: want because there was like there's there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of rumors about like Gilly used to write for him,
Speaker 1: and well I wasn't around for that. Was I wasn't
Speaker 1: around for the Gilly show. I mean, like you got
Speaker 1: at like did he ever tap in with you for
Speaker 1: some bars? I will say this, There's been many times
Speaker 1: that we're in the studio and Wayne might be like,
Speaker 1: y'all tell me what you think it is yo, okay
Speaker 1: m m, but yeah, like that's what I got for
Speaker 1: right now. But I feel like that's natural. That's like
Speaker 1: any studio. I will go down stairs in the studio
Speaker 1: with Wayne and be like, Yo, this I got. I
Speaker 1: got like twelve, but I don't know if how she
Speaker 1: does sixteen or twelve, but this is what I got.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say this next, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how that ship sound like what you say that. But
Speaker 1: if you flip it this way and just say it
Speaker 1: like this, so that mean Wayne wrote for me. Now,
Speaker 1: that's just because I watched Kanye West go in the
Speaker 1: studio Kanye. I watched Kanye play Lucifer for jay Z
Speaker 1: and say I'm from the murder Capital where we murder
Speaker 1: for capitals. If you don't use this, I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: this for my album. And then jay Z got on
Speaker 1: there and said I gotta get these devils out my
Speaker 1: life and then cut it off and said, oh my,
Speaker 1: oh god, I never read the Bible. Damn my life.
Speaker 1: On Faith the Black, he says that I watched Kanye
Speaker 1: go in there and give him Lucifer and say I'm
Speaker 1: from the murder Capitol where they murder for capitals. Jay
Speaker 1: Z was not from the Murder Capital Kanye West was.
Speaker 1: But we will never say Kanye West wrote for jay Z. True.
Speaker 1: We will never, even with clear fucking footage of it
Speaker 1: in Fade the Black, we will never say Kanye West
Speaker 1: wrote for jay Z. Well, why do you think the
Speaker 1: Drake thing was recepted so differently? I think I think
Speaker 1: personally it was because we heard the references. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of like, Oh, I think with Wayne too,
Speaker 1: it was big because I think it only comes so
Speaker 1: heavy like that when it's somebody you respect. So when
Speaker 1: Gilly said this shit about Wayne, it was like, Nah,
Speaker 1: Wayne been nice since he was thirteen. He didn't even
Speaker 1: know you didn't, so how you saying you wrote? And
Speaker 1: I don't think he was saying it like that. I
Speaker 1: think he was just saying there was a time where
Speaker 1: I was influencing the way that he rapped. Now. I
Speaker 1: could understand that because we younger than Gilly. So I
Speaker 1: was a major Figures fan too. I was on Dutch
Speaker 1: and Spade too. I was on all that shit, Like
Speaker 1: I bought Major Figures. I bought the album. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I understood Gilly was with Suave House
Speaker 1: and Tony Draper and ab Liva before he got was
Speaker 1: I was a fan, I not was m still as
Speaker 1: a fan with major figures, I'll still say they was
Speaker 1: dead nice. So I can understand where Gilly's influence. He
Speaker 1: could say like I influenced the all that swag raping
Speaker 1: the dragon, the words, but I don't like you wrote
Speaker 1: like wrote for him once again, I can't say he didn't,
Speaker 1: but I could see what he could say he influenced him.
Speaker 1: But Wayne is so like articulate with the way he
Speaker 1: put his ship together. He he wants to put it together,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He wants the craft in
Speaker 1: and put it together. Now you can help him. You
Speaker 1: could tell him, Nah, I don't think you should say it.
Speaker 1: You should say it this way. But if I was
Speaker 1: in here recording something, you might tell me that. Yo, Jay,
Speaker 1: I think you that shit might have been crazy if
Speaker 1: you would have said, oh shit, you know what, keV,
Speaker 1: You're right, let's do it over. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think like you said with the Drake shit, we
Speaker 1: heard the references. Yeah, the Drake thing. When you heard
Speaker 1: the references, and it's like that was supposed to be
Speaker 1: the go that was a little crazy, supposed to be
Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. It's the same
Speaker 1: that was a little crazy. But that's different than what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. What we're talking about is, hey, we're
Speaker 1: in the studio, let me help you with with the
Speaker 1: with the Drake joint. Was it like the same verse
Speaker 1: and all of that, or was the same like melody
Speaker 1: of words and he changed some of the worlds. It
Speaker 1: was the same shit. It was the same hook, same verse,
Speaker 1: the same shit. Quentin Miller Man, No, I know he
Speaker 1: did it, But I do also think listen to think
Speaker 1: that Drake is incredible with his pen as an ignorant
Speaker 1: thought to have. I think Drake is like one of
Speaker 1: the best artists ever. Of course, I think, of course,
Speaker 1: if we're having that discussion, like in life, everybody included.
Speaker 1: So I just think that if you're Drake, you're probably
Speaker 1: so fucking busy, Like he's probably torn doing all kinds
Speaker 1: of shit and people are sending references and he might
Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, that shits hot, Like let me Like,
Speaker 1: I personally don't rappers do that all the time, man,
Speaker 1: I know they do. It's just it was him. It's
Speaker 1: Drake that the references came out on because once again,
Speaker 1: I will always go back to this, like Fade the
Speaker 1: Black with Kanye West and jay Z. Nobody will ever
Speaker 1: say Kanye West wrote for jay Z, but they'll turn
Speaker 1: around and say somebody wrote for Kanye, but they won't
Speaker 1: give him that same respect and be like he took
Speaker 1: a song into jay Z's session, said this is the
Speaker 1: hook and if you don't use this, I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: it on my album. And if you go pull up
Speaker 1: the Black album, he word for words said yah shit
Speaker 1: that Ya brought him in the studio and we overlooked it.
Speaker 1: We overlooked it because Drake ain't jay Z at that time.
Speaker 1: But Drake is up there man now. At that time,
Speaker 1: we were still talking about oh, he wrapped on the
Speaker 1: BlackBerry on Flex. Yeah, And it was only because you've
Speaker 1: seen him with the BlackBerry. I know a million rappers
Speaker 1: that went up to funk Master Flex show and their
Speaker 1: phone is on the speaker, but you can't see it.
Speaker 1: People come to our show all the time. Don't tell
Speaker 1: me this, Let's just go to Sun else. Don't tell
Speaker 1: me this. I've had artists have their lyrics on my
Speaker 1: laptop in front of them and the laptops off. Are
Speaker 1: you doing this? Man? But to be fair, because you
Speaker 1: know it's funny because they're gonna know exactly who you're
Speaker 1: talking about when this no no, no, Like one of
Speaker 1: my boys, I'm cool listening. One of the homies. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say his name, really close close friend of
Speaker 1: he wrote the ship like when he got to the stage.
Speaker 1: That's different. So that is different, that's different. But no,
Speaker 1: he wrote it on the spot, that's dope. He literally
Speaker 1: was like, yo, throwing a beat and then he was like,
Speaker 1: give me like twenty minutes and I'll have something now
Speaker 1: that's dope. And then he and then he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got something written that's different. I can respect that. Yes, Now,
Speaker 1: there has been artists that have come in who literally
Speaker 1: put their phone on the thing. And then I got
Speaker 1: to I'm like, because I'm like, I want a good freestyle.
Speaker 1: So I'm out of camera and I'm literally with my
Speaker 1: fingers scrolling down there. That shit happens. Yeah, But this
Speaker 1: is one thing I do want to say about the
Speaker 1: Young Money shit. I feel like the way the Young
Speaker 1: Money shit played out for all of us, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, believe it, or not. That was exactly how
Speaker 1: I was supposed to play out. If I could say, Man,
Speaker 1: Wayne fucked my shit up, that'd be different. I can't
Speaker 1: say Wayne fucked my shit up. The good outwegh to bad.
Speaker 1: He did more than he didn't do, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I might could say I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie I was a little I was a little hot
Speaker 1: behind Club Paradise. It might be the only thing that
Speaker 1: I could say I was ever hot behind with Drake.
Speaker 1: But I could name so much of a good ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I could say, well, Nikki
Speaker 1: never really like took me onto a nehba, same way
Speaker 1: Drake didn't. She never really put me on nothing like
Speaker 1: that neither, but stopped it stopped there. I can't say
Speaker 1: anything else. And it's and those things are me and
Speaker 1: my feelings. That's artist ship, that's rapper ship. Thinking you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say ego ship. I would say it's feeling like, uh,
Speaker 1: what's the word, uh not prideful, feeling like you uhled
Speaker 1: entitlement that and that that we crew. So I'm entitled
Speaker 1: to first DIBs on something or what you did for
Speaker 1: that artist. You could have did that for me. We crew.
Speaker 1: It's that that's that entitlement, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so and not saying that you partially shouldn't have that
Speaker 1: entitlement with your team, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: some of it might have just been me thinking too much.
Speaker 1: But once again, the good outwegh to bad with everybody.
Speaker 1: So it's not like that's not changing. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't follow that nigga, ain't like him. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care about she just had kids. Don't give
Speaker 1: fuck if it's his son's birthday on kid. It's like, Bro,
Speaker 1: that shit was It's not that Sari, It's not that deep. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're behind the scenes. I want to know because
Speaker 1: pusha T Is one of my favorite rappers ever. Push
Speaker 1: your T has been He was poking and prodding at
Speaker 1: little Wayne for years ever since mister Me too, which
Speaker 1: is for long. That's prior to you being with Young Money,
Speaker 1: that sugar Push your T and Young Money or Wayne, shit,
Speaker 1: that should go back way before me. Like I just
Speaker 1: I just probably only entertained it because I was young
Speaker 1: money at the time. Yeah, because you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it took Wayne. I want to say it was maybe
Speaker 1: three or four years ago he finally said push his
Speaker 1: name on a record or it was, I don't remember
Speaker 1: what he said. He's finally acknowledged push your ta officially,
Speaker 1: and I was like wow, but like was that like
Speaker 1: was that something that like like like was a known
Speaker 1: issue in the crew, like, man, this fuck these guys
Speaker 1: over here, Man, they're fucking disrespect now you know why?
Speaker 1: Because Wayne be in his own little world, So Wayne
Speaker 1: don't really listen, like he don't really be knowing what
Speaker 1: be going on. It'd be like me or gutt or
Speaker 1: like show him something. Yeah, a little twist would always
Speaker 1: come in and show him some shit on the laptop
Speaker 1: or or Twitter or Instagram. Here a big bro, look
Speaker 1: at this. So he would be so far into his
Speaker 1: music he wouldn't really know about like the darts, but
Speaker 1: when he find out about it, it'd be like a
Speaker 1: word or pull that shit up, let me see that shit.
Speaker 1: And then everybody, like all assistance and managers to be like,
Speaker 1: oh god, males, why did you get them started? I
Speaker 1: remember we was in the studio and Yay came to
Speaker 1: play him over this Atoven production. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I even wanted to know his story, you gotta started.
Speaker 1: But first time Wayne heard he heard him right, he
Speaker 1: didn't feel that ship. Uh the damn what was the
Speaker 1: barn then? Man? I just remember the baby money you got,
Speaker 1: baby money. That ain't my late something, my lady money.
Speaker 1: That's baby money you got like it was some ship
Speaker 1: like that. M Wayne walked out the room, song still playing,
Speaker 1: like just went to go get like a cup of
Speaker 1: water and ship like yeah. And I remember like two
Speaker 1: days later he did a song. Was he Drake, Jada
Speaker 1: Kiss and Wayne? Was that Carter three? Kidnap your bitch,
Speaker 1: Kidnap your bitch, See how much you love your lady money?
Speaker 1: That was Carter three? I think that was that was
Speaker 1: I think it was Drake. It might have been. It
Speaker 1: might have been called A four. Carter Foy was Drake,
Speaker 1: Jadakiss and Wayne. Because Washing the Throne came out in
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, it was four four apart, it was four.
Speaker 1: I remember, I don't remember much from that album. It
Speaker 1: wasn't good. This is when I liked Carter four. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't Carter three. It just wasn't Carter three. Carter
Speaker 1: four was fired it, Uh, I remember he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: y'all think that's too much, And everybody was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I think you should take that ball out. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't think you should really say that. Man, fuck that ship.
Speaker 1: Say that shit. Everybody got mad at me. So when
Speaker 1: he's like you know what, I was like, Yo, do
Speaker 1: you feel like he was talking about you? Not necessarily?
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, this's his words. It ain't like you.
Speaker 1: It ain't like if he was talking about you. He
Speaker 1: said that it was j So at this point, nigga,
Speaker 1: you you you you just sold a million records. Of
Speaker 1: course first week, came home and you about to do
Speaker 1: it again. This is you you right now if you
Speaker 1: feel this is just a battle rapper and at this time,
Speaker 1: but this is how much I fuck with Wayne. This
Speaker 1: is this is what Wayne looks at me for. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like, do you feel like
Speaker 1: it was a shot? You? I'm like, nah, seriously, do
Speaker 1: you feel it was a shot? Because if you didn't
Speaker 1: feel it was a shot, you wouldn't have thought of
Speaker 1: the ball you thought of So you asking us for
Speaker 1: validation to go in there to go say what you feel? Now?
Speaker 1: You know what you right? He went in there turn
Speaker 1: me up lighter, everybody looking at me. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: do feel like, why would you tell him to do that?
Speaker 1: There was like this period of time where and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why not, though, I'm like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's words, it's a sport, it's rap. It's not like
Speaker 1: he said I'm gonna kill you. You felt he said
Speaker 1: something and you wanted to say something back. Do you rap?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that there was some contention growing
Speaker 1: between Hove and Wayne. I feel like there's some contention
Speaker 1: growing between Hove and anybody else that gets hot to
Speaker 1: the point where they're on his radar. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: remember I remember that we should go that should go
Speaker 1: back to nas Well, there was the rumors that that
Speaker 1: Wayne was gonna leave Cash Money and then signed with
Speaker 1: Rocking Rock. I remember that. I remember that being a
Speaker 1: thing a few different times, and then and then it
Speaker 1: seemed like they been back before I was with Young Money.
Speaker 1: I think Wayne and Jay had some business history. I
Speaker 1: think Jay was gonna sign him or he was going
Speaker 1: to give him, like a situation to something that go
Speaker 1: back and then it said what happened said in an
Speaker 1: interview that they were talking mm hmm. But then there
Speaker 1: was like after the Carter three, it felt like there
Speaker 1: was like this almost like an unspoken like like like
Speaker 1: energy between the two where it was like Wayne was
Speaker 1: the only guy who was like challenging Hove. Is that dude?
Speaker 1: And I felt like that. I feel like it was
Speaker 1: definitely like was that talked about like openly or was
Speaker 1: it more just like you mean amongst us like the crew, Nah,
Speaker 1: we always looked at even Wayne. Wayne look at Jay
Speaker 1: like Jay, you the go. But Wayne his favorite like
Speaker 1: person ever is like Prince Kobe Bryant. Like if anybody
Speaker 1: knows Wayne, they will tell you mails No, Wayne off
Speaker 1: that it's Prince and Kobe Bryant. Michael Jackson is cool,
Speaker 1: but to Wayne, Michael Jackson isn't Prince, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Jordan Jordan is cool too, but to Wayne, yeah,
Speaker 1: Kobe could have won seven, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like menia. His mentality is I love Mike,
Speaker 1: but I'm coming at him. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: it always was with Jay, even if you go back
Speaker 1: to I'm the best rapper alive since the best rapper retired,
Speaker 1: and then once JD wasn't retiring no more. He never
Speaker 1: stopped calling himself the best rapper alive though. He just
Speaker 1: kept calling himself. It's like, oh you back. I thought
Speaker 1: it was my turn. I thought you was retiring. Well
Speaker 1: I'm still. I'm still that nigga here. So if you
Speaker 1: that nigga and I'm I'm the best, though I know
Speaker 1: you might be the greatest, but I'm the best, Like
Speaker 1: right now, I'm the best. And I think Wayne just
Speaker 1: carried that shit for so long. He carried that shit
Speaker 1: for so long. It's you heard it when you when
Speaker 1: you heard him about to come on a song, you
Speaker 1: just felt that energy like he just feel he about
Speaker 1: to come on. He used to tell us that he
Speaker 1: used to play beats and look at me and Drake
Speaker 1: and Nikki and Tyger Gutto whoever's on the song. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just letting your balls know, like I'm gonna kill
Speaker 1: all your niggas on this song right now and turn
Speaker 1: around and just turn the ship all the way back
Speaker 1: up and like this blood that's crazy. So when you
Speaker 1: at some point, now we come on the record like
Speaker 1: that too. Now, Nikki, come on, I'm a motherfucking mine stuff.
Speaker 1: But she come on like I want to kill I
Speaker 1: don't think Little Chucky ever playing a record like that. Damn, Yo,
Speaker 1: you really don't like Chucky was horrible. I was like,
Speaker 1: why these Why is he signing these twelve year old
Speaker 1: children who can't rap? Shout out to Chuck and shout
Speaker 1: out to Twists. Man. Look, the views of Bootleg keV
Speaker 1: are nothing to do with the views and Mills. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can you know what though, I can respect, Nah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I could respect because those
Speaker 1: still my little homies forever. I can understand a person
Speaker 1: like you being like, nah, they was fucking trash because
Speaker 1: they could look. Look who they standing next to. They
Speaker 1: standing next to Wayne Drake, Nikki Tiger Mills. I'm godly
Speaker 1: with this lyric. If I never put out an album
Speaker 1: with Young Money. I always used to say I was
Speaker 1: who I was before I got here. I'm godly. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you know me for what you know me for.
Speaker 1: This can't change that, it can add on. I have
Speaker 1: plaques for one hundred million streams, and I have plaques
Speaker 1: for four times Platinum, two times Platinum, Billboard Peak one
Speaker 1: Peak two Peak seven. That's more than I had before
Speaker 1: I got there. True, So the good outway to bad.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying a lot of people, they
Speaker 1: might have loved Drake and Wayne, but they looked at me,
Speaker 1: how you looked that little chucky in a little twist
Speaker 1: like oh my god, Jay Mills and Gutta Gutta was
Speaker 1: fucking horrible. They may look at us like it's just
Speaker 1: like these people that may look at me and gut
Speaker 1: a gutting like nah, they was killing dedication through they
Speaker 1: held They held a lot of them mixtapes up when
Speaker 1: other artists wasn't on them ships. Now, you had said
Speaker 1: something to me last week. You said you were around
Speaker 1: Young Money enough to see everyone get kicked out at
Speaker 1: least once. Oh shit, I said that to you. I did,
Speaker 1: I did? I did. So explain to me the times
Speaker 1: in which both Nikki and Drake were kicked out of
Speaker 1: Young Money, because that seems like a preposterous thing. You
Speaker 1: want to hear. You want to hear the story about
Speaker 1: how Nikki and Drake were once kicked out of it
Speaker 1: was probably only lasted for about a day or two, right,
Speaker 1: But or do you want to hear when I got
Speaker 1: kicked out of? You? All of them? But which which
Speaker 1: one do you want to hear first, whatever you feel,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the Nicky and Drake shit first because
Speaker 1: they're bigger names and that'll probably be more entertaining for y'all.
Speaker 1: I remember or I saw with Nicki Nicki if you
Speaker 1: remember that one time she was managed by Dad Walker
Speaker 1: Moms yep, yeah, and Dad had a work and had
Speaker 1: her out there with Gucci, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: Dad was managing French at that time. So she used
Speaker 1: to do like some shit like Gucci to be booked.
Speaker 1: But French and Nicki get a bag too, and they
Speaker 1: come together. So it got to a point when we
Speaker 1: started going out because we used to record a lot
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Miami and shit like that. But now when
Speaker 1: Carter three come out Wayne on the road and he
Speaker 1: used to tell us shit like he used to tell
Speaker 1: me a lot. This is what made me start coming.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I don't think it's fair to
Speaker 1: the other artists that you get to go home and
Speaker 1: then fly back when you want to come back out.
Speaker 1: Like they don't go home, they just they they on
Speaker 1: the road with me. But I had never been a
Speaker 1: part of nothing like that to understand an artist like
Speaker 1: him that lives on the road like lives on a
Speaker 1: tour bus. You know what I'm saying. I was more
Speaker 1: like a well when y'all come to New York or
Speaker 1: you want me to come back out? Let me know.
Speaker 1: His thing was, Miles, I fuck with you. You need
Speaker 1: to be here whenever what you're there for, what you're
Speaker 1: doing there, Young money ain't in New York. We on
Speaker 1: the road while you're there, you young money, right, And
Speaker 1: then it hit me like, all right, I gotta be
Speaker 1: here more so Nicki at that time, she was booked,
Speaker 1: so she got her own She's building like her own
Speaker 1: Nicki Lewinsky. You know what I'm saying. She building her
Speaker 1: own little Thingcottie Tape in them clubs. Like she was
Speaker 1: getting getting bags while we riding the bus with Wayne
Speaker 1: and we you know he bringing us out. She doing
Speaker 1: that too, but she might have a bag to get
Speaker 1: in South Carolina or here here. And I think he
Speaker 1: started to feel like, you know, he never wanted nobody
Speaker 1: to feel like they was better than another artist, Like
Speaker 1: I don't want Nikki to feel like she better than
Speaker 1: Chanelle or Guns just because she booked. But I don't
Speaker 1: want Mills to feel like he bigger than Twist or
Speaker 1: Chucky just because he been on TV with Diddy before
Speaker 1: and he did battles and he had deals. Like we
Speaker 1: all at the same level. You're all the same level
Speaker 1: field right now. Like let's look don't look down on nobody,
Speaker 1: because I ain't looking down on you now. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna look down on a little Chucky or little Twist,
Speaker 1: or you're gonna look down on guns, I gotta look
Speaker 1: down on you now, Mills, I have to, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So once we got that shit in
Speaker 1: our mind, Wayne was looking at it. I think like
Speaker 1: Nicki doing her own thing. I think Wayne was looking
Speaker 1: at it on some shit like oh, she trying to
Speaker 1: be over here and over here and kind of see
Speaker 1: which one pop first. You gotta remember, it wasn't no
Speaker 1: every girl in the world yet. It wasn't no we
Speaker 1: was just Wayne's crew, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: Gucci was still Gucci. Like French wasn't big, big, big
Speaker 1: French Montana yet, but he coke boys and he so
Speaker 1: he don't know if like NICKI was like you fucking
Speaker 1: over you over here, like you fucking with us or
Speaker 1: you fucking with them? You fuck? And I think he
Speaker 1: just had one of them days where he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: she ain't young on money, no more like and then
Speaker 1: she started just working. She'll be at video shoots here
Speaker 1: and there, change hair color, start wearing tight dresses. And
Speaker 1: did he tell that to her? I don't know if you,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to say he told it
Speaker 1: to her. He probably told matt Or told Tesz to
Speaker 1: call or whatever. She never said nothing. He never said nothing.
Speaker 1: And then him being a businessman and just understanding where
Speaker 1: he trying to take young money. I think he told
Speaker 1: mac or Tez, like, yo, we put in too much
Speaker 1: work to just let her go, like tell, I said,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then she was back
Speaker 1: on the road with us, but she was still doing
Speaker 1: her own thing. But she was back on the road.
Speaker 1: But I can understand how he could feel like that,
Speaker 1: because it's like, Yo, is you over here or is
Speaker 1: you over there? Is like, what is you doing right now?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So they came to their agreement,
Speaker 1: and after that everything was cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I think it was a misunderstanding. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was a miscommunication somewhere. Same thing with the Drake shit.
Speaker 1: I think Wayne and Drake thing at that time was
Speaker 1: more so Wayne and Taz, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like Wayne trusting Taz with shit and then finding out
Speaker 1: like some shit might not be what it is, and like,
Speaker 1: but now Drake is in the middle of it because
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's that business, that paperwork shit
Speaker 1: and like all of that type of shit. I think
Speaker 1: that was an issue, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I was in the studio with Drake in New York
Speaker 1: and cool chilling everything, cool smokey recording, and he went
Speaker 1: up and went in the hallway and came back and
Speaker 1: I was like, you good. He's like yeah, man, he's
Speaker 1: like to just telling me I'm not young money no more,
Speaker 1: same thing you just did. I was like, like, where
Speaker 1: the fuck did that come from? Like, because this is
Speaker 1: at a time where like every girl is out like
Speaker 1: we you know, we charting, like Drake's doing like, uh
Speaker 1: say something and did you new girl? Like he's doing
Speaker 1: like features now for Mary J and Drake, I mean
Speaker 1: not Drake, Mary J, Jamie Fox. Yeah, he doing like
Speaker 1: shit outside of the box. And I think it was
Speaker 1: that same thing again. It was like that Yo, what
Speaker 1: y'all like, because there's so much shit going on, but
Speaker 1: Wayne don't know, you know what I'm saying, He don't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck is going on with his artists.
Speaker 1: And I think that was the thing with Drake. It
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't really nothing with Drake, because even Drake
Speaker 1: told him, he was like, he said, it really don't
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with you and me. Just knowing Wayne,
Speaker 1: I know he was having one of them days where
Speaker 1: it's like, fuck, is everybody keeping me in the dark
Speaker 1: with shit? If these is? This is my shit? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And just once again miscommunication miss
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing with fucking what Little Twist? I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't. Little Twist wasn't in the Bedrock video. If
Speaker 1: you notice, Little Chucky was all through the Bedrock video,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't on the song. Was it because Wayne
Speaker 1: wasn't fucking the matter? Because got him trouble in school
Speaker 1: or some shit like that, whoor tutoring or son happened
Speaker 1: with his moms like, so Wayne wouldn't let him be
Speaker 1: in the video. He just let Little Chucky be all
Speaker 1: through that. He let Little Chucky be the extra in
Speaker 1: everybody's verse. That's so funny. That's so funny. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I remember, I don't want people to
Speaker 1: feel like this nigga just want to sit up there
Speaker 1: and tell stories while people all day. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you real shit, and I'm gonna tell you about
Speaker 1: when my stupid ass got kicked out. If you remember
Speaker 1: the BET Awards, when Drake's foot was hert he had
Speaker 1: just fucked his foot up when he was on tour.
Speaker 1: He had tours acl but he still came out and
Speaker 1: performed at the BT Awards, and I think Reginee came
Speaker 1: out on stage. It wasn't meant to be disrespectful, but
Speaker 1: they was performing every girl. I say they because as
Speaker 1: I tell this story, this is gonna fuck everybody up.
Speaker 1: So when they was performing every girl and Drake was
Speaker 1: sitting in a chair and the kids came out, they
Speaker 1: pulled the performance and they never showed it again because
Speaker 1: we was performing. I just want to fuck every girl
Speaker 1: in the world. And people had their kids up there
Speaker 1: and we were just happy that we made it to
Speaker 1: the awards show. You know what I'm saying. Wayne usually
Speaker 1: performed with the hot boys cash Money. This is like everybody,
Speaker 1: this is like young money, the shit that he had,
Speaker 1: the plan he had for us, this shit came to life.
Speaker 1: We on stage BT Awards. J Miles wasn't on that stage.
Speaker 1: J Mills was in New York on one hundred and
Speaker 1: twelve and fifth Avenue down the block from the Projects,
Speaker 1: looking at that performance at his homies crib. Vodo was
Speaker 1: there with me. Shout to Vado and the girl that
Speaker 1: I had pregnant at that time sitting next to me,
Speaker 1: about eight months pregnant, and I'm looking at them perform like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I missed my flight. Two flights. Two flights
Speaker 1: flights from New York Airport, had a whole nother flight
Speaker 1: books from JFK by the time I got the JFK
Speaker 1: missed that one too. We have to perform at the
Speaker 1: BT Awards first live TV performance. Now my verse was performed,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't me who performed it. Shout out to
Speaker 1: my brother mac Maine because at that time we both
Speaker 1: had the same facial here and we both had like
Speaker 1: low seasons and ship and we was like husky chubby,
Speaker 1: husky type dudes. Hey, you just want to stay with
Speaker 1: some shades, and he I ain't you know that's wild.
Speaker 1: I ain't being disrespectful, baby, I'm just being Mac damn.
Speaker 1: But luckily for Milsey, the fucking performance got pulled, so
Speaker 1: it never even ended up happening like it, but it happened.
Speaker 1: You just can't find it anywhere. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: made somebody may have uploaded the YouTube or some ship
Speaker 1: like that, but yeah, but it didn't actually make the
Speaker 1: broadcast not live. And then when they whenever they showed
Speaker 1: the after that, they just never showed that performance. Now,
Speaker 1: this is all a part of my getting kicked out
Speaker 1: of the Young Money story. So Mac like, Yo, we
Speaker 1: uh were in New York, but were about to leave.
Speaker 1: You know, we're about to leave from whre the jet
Speaker 1: leave from. We're about to go to Paris. Were about
Speaker 1: to go do the Paris Run and overseas and all
Speaker 1: that shit. So Mac was like, I don't really want
Speaker 1: you to miss this because you know you need to
Speaker 1: be here. You know too, Mad He ain't fucking with you,
Speaker 1: like you're not Young Money right now, he said, But
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to see you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let's just you gotta face it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying say you can't just chill because
Speaker 1: if you chill, he'll never call you again. So I
Speaker 1: will say, if it wasn't for Mac Main, I would
Speaker 1: have been curved from young money a long time, a
Speaker 1: long time ago. So regardless, and me and Mac we
Speaker 1: done have a million disagreements, almost came to fights a
Speaker 1: million times. Mac Main is like a big brother to me,
Speaker 1: Like he's like the big brother that you always get
Speaker 1: into a fight with, but he kind of always right
Speaker 1: years later, like the shit he was telling you years
Speaker 1: ago that y'all got in an argument about shit. Kind
Speaker 1: of he kind of was right, but he kind of
Speaker 1: didn't worry it right, and he always both fiery at
Speaker 1: that time. So Mac was like, yo, just come to
Speaker 1: the jet and let's just see if he wants you
Speaker 1: to come to Paris with us. So when I get
Speaker 1: some I get to the jet. They not there yet,
Speaker 1: so I just get on the jet and I just
Speaker 1: wait for them to put He's like, well a few
Speaker 1: minutes away. So I remember they got on the jet, right,
Speaker 1: So I remember, I'm me and Tad. I think streets
Speaker 1: a couple of people, Mac man assistant everybody get up
Speaker 1: on the joint and they look at me and just go.
Speaker 1: So I'm dabbing everybody. But you know, like on the jet.
Speaker 1: Well let's say were on the jet and you coming
Speaker 1: in right here, and we got the sofa right here.
Speaker 1: They got the captain seats right there. You know, Wayne
Speaker 1: sit all the way in the back, all his bags everything,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm sitting on the sofa. Thay, everybody
Speaker 1: walking by dapping me. So Wayne get on the He
Speaker 1: get on the jet right so he get up, he
Speaker 1: look at me. He just keep walking like it threw
Speaker 1: them off to see me. Right. So now we're waiting,
Speaker 1: jet about to take off. So everybody talking. A couple
Speaker 1: of people talking to me. But I noticed Wayne his
Speaker 1: conversation ain't reaching where I'm at. So he back there,
Speaker 1: he listened to his music, you know, looking out the window.
Speaker 1: So I said, all right, this ain't this ain't like
Speaker 1: friend shit. This is business right now. You have to
Speaker 1: go apologize, like you missed a little you missed a
Speaker 1: performance at the BET Awards. You have to go speak
Speaker 1: to this man. I walked back there. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, my fault for missing the flight.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I apologize. I know that
Speaker 1: shit was unprofessional. Blah blah blah blah blah, and like
Speaker 1: he looked at me said he said, what you say?
Speaker 1: So I was like, now I'm talking about the fight.
Speaker 1: He said, no, I heard you, but I'm asking you
Speaker 1: what you say. I said, you're right. I just went
Speaker 1: and sat back down. From Teeterborough to Paris, this man
Speaker 1: did not say a word to me, spoke to everybody
Speaker 1: else joking ha ha ha. Food just kept walking by
Speaker 1: me the whole flight, even when we got the Paris checked.
Speaker 1: I had my It wasn't like he shit it on
Speaker 1: me when I got to Paris, but behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: I felt that shit like I was definitely on like
Speaker 1: curve time for a while. And if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: mac Maine like telling me, like yo, just come to
Speaker 1: the jet and like just see what happened, if I
Speaker 1: would have been on some bit shit and been like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: fuck that shit. If he ain't fucking with me, he
Speaker 1: ain't fucking with me, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I had to eat that shit, but I was wrong,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's my story of
Speaker 1: when I got fucking curved. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I definitely thought it was over for me though, now
Speaker 1: you're you're independent. Now, when what year did you like
Speaker 1: officially have like an official split away from Young Money.
Speaker 1: I know it was cordial. Yeah, I left Young Money
Speaker 1: the end of twenty sixteen, and I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: where I left h into twenty sixteen. I had my
Speaker 1: surgery already. I had a surgery in twenty fifteen to
Speaker 1: remove to him my throat. My daughter was born in
Speaker 1: twenty and twelve, so twenty sixteen, she going on five.
Speaker 1: I'm not the same dude I was in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, you know what I'm saying. I'm not the
Speaker 1: same twenty seven year old kid running around wanting to
Speaker 1: fuck every girl in the world at this point, like
Speaker 1: I got a little girl in this world now, Like
Speaker 1: just the way I think now is different. And then
Speaker 1: it's like, now it's bad with Wayne and Birdman now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, and I want yeah, yeah, shit,
Speaker 1: it was bad and I'm one of them, And I
Speaker 1: was always good with Birdman and Wayne, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we was all kind of caught in
Speaker 1: the middle of the shit now. But now it's like
Speaker 1: I'm one of them. I'm a rider to the wheels
Speaker 1: fall off dude at that point, and I feel like,
Speaker 1: to some people, Mills you should have been left. I
Speaker 1: remember busting round seeing me in a sneaker store in
Speaker 1: Miami and being like, Yo, what are you doing? What
Speaker 1: you're waiting for? Like you're waiting for them to stop
Speaker 1: fucking with you, like to make you feel that, or
Speaker 1: you're gonna like just see it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But at that time, I'm like, Nah, he gave me
Speaker 1: a chance. I owe him a little bit more to
Speaker 1: leave because it's not good right now. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because it's not good right now, I owe
Speaker 1: him a little bit more than to leave right now.
Speaker 1: I gotta ride this one out, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Even if my loyalty is turning into stupidity, I owe
Speaker 1: him this to ride this out with him. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now, When it got to a point
Speaker 1: where I just didn't know what I was doing no more, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I didn't know when I
Speaker 1: come around if I was supposed to be there or not.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't know if like
Speaker 1: I'm overstaying and this is just real shit because I
Speaker 1: never really said this to a lot of people in
Speaker 1: young Money. I never said this to Wayne, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like real shit. I never said this
Speaker 1: to Birdman or mac Maine or nothing like that. But
Speaker 1: I just felt like I was overstaying my welcome, and
Speaker 1: I felt like the Southern hospitality wasn't gonna let them
Speaker 1: shit on me. You know what I'm saying, that they
Speaker 1: got good hearts, they not fucked up individuals. I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna say that, you know what I'm saying, But I
Speaker 1: think that Southern hospitality of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I fuck with him, but I just don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with him, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think that was just like and he a good, a
Speaker 1: good you know, millsy family, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it got to I could either be family and
Speaker 1: just you know, you don't know what they trying to
Speaker 1: do with you, and they don't really know what they
Speaker 1: trying to do with you, and just to be real
Speaker 1: with you, they don't have an idea of doing anything
Speaker 1: with you at this point, Like this is the rebuild
Speaker 1: of Lil Wayne at this time, because I remember during
Speaker 1: that period of time when he was beefing heavy with Birdman,
Speaker 1: Wayne went on this like club run in the South
Speaker 1: where he was taking bags that like you would never
Speaker 1: have ever expected Wayne to take. Like he did a
Speaker 1: show in Tampa when I was living in town. That
Speaker 1: was around the time. I was like, I just had
Speaker 1: it was twenty fifteen, he said, like twenty fifteen. That
Speaker 1: was around that time I had my surgery and I
Speaker 1: think I was healing like he did. He did a
Speaker 1: show in Tampa for like forty bands at a nightclub,
Speaker 1: and I remember being like, wait, little Wayne doing something
Speaker 1: for forty thousand dollars, like, but I think it was
Speaker 1: because he was just I think I obviously speculation, but
Speaker 1: I just think he was just grabbing cash. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean cash. At the end of the day, he was
Speaker 1: doing the whole HU but he was doing this whole
Speaker 1: club run that like you would never think Wayne would do. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was you know what it was for me?
Speaker 1: Mostly it was I could even stay here because you
Speaker 1: gotta remember, I got a kid now, so I could
Speaker 1: even stay here and figure out what he going to do,
Speaker 1: or I could go figure out what I'm going to
Speaker 1: do because it's not like you're on a Young Money salary. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was assuming by like then it
Speaker 1: was not any income coming It wasn't like it was
Speaker 1: no it was income coming in because we've been on
Speaker 1: hit records, we've been on album we still coming in.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like as far as money, the plan
Speaker 1: like because at this time I'm looking at it like
Speaker 1: I I'm looking at like Drake on four fifth, Nikki
Speaker 1: on I'm looking at it like I R Now I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the what's the plan? Like what is the
Speaker 1: plan for me? Not what is the plan for Wayne?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is like the first
Speaker 1: time where now I really have to look at like, Bro,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna take you on tour, nobody's gonna throw you
Speaker 1: on a single, nobody's gonna jump on your single, nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna promote your single, nobody's gonna promote any fucking thing
Speaker 1: you have going because everybody has their own shit going right,
Speaker 1: and shit is so different now. When I came around,
Speaker 1: people were still selling ring tones. By the time I left,
Speaker 1: Young Money music was coming out on Fridays. Now right,
Speaker 1: no longer Tuesdays, It's no longer people lining up in
Speaker 1: front of the stores. All the stores closed, all the
Speaker 1: websites we used to send our music to some niggas
Speaker 1: is corn balls. Now you could just put it on
Speaker 1: streaming platform Why are we not putting our music on
Speaker 1: streaming platforms? Why is Wayne not putting projects on stream?
Speaker 1: Why doesn't Wayne have a four pack out? Why doesn't
Speaker 1: Wayne have an EP out? Why don't we just put
Speaker 1: out a new Young Money mixtape to promote everybody who's
Speaker 1: sitting here ice fucking coal. And at that time, when
Speaker 1: I got to think about all that, I'm a virgo,
Speaker 1: I get lost in my own mind. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: back yourself out. It's like, Yo, you gotta go, you
Speaker 1: gotta go. Not a bad thing. Like man, fuck these niggas.
Speaker 1: They ain't do nothing for me. Nah whoa whoa. Young
Speaker 1: Money did more for J Mills than any other label
Speaker 1: did for J Mills. Even if y'all did put me
Speaker 1: on a promo, run and pay for the no No
Speaker 1: no video or put me here, put me there. I
Speaker 1: don't have no plaques. I don't have no plaques from
Speaker 1: anything before Young Money. I don't have big ass cap
Speaker 1: checks from anything before young money, so I could never say, man, niggas.
Speaker 1: The niggas held me up. Nah, you got lost in
Speaker 1: the midst of some great ship. It happens like that sometimes.
Speaker 1: Now what you're gonna do? Now, keep it moving, Learn
Speaker 1: how to produce, learn how to direct shoot your own videos.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had to figure it.
Speaker 1: I had to basically figure it out the same way
Speaker 1: I had to figure it out when I got with
Speaker 1: your money. I have no deal. I'm taking shots in
Speaker 1: the dark. I could listen and see when I hit
Speaker 1: the rim. I'm close. Keep taking them fucking shots. What
Speaker 1: did you tell me the other day? It's the perfect
Speaker 1: time for somebody like you. Yeah, I told you, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a record. Blah blah blah. And
Speaker 1: what did you tell me? Can I say what you
Speaker 1: told me about the radio record? Sure? Fuck the radio
Speaker 1: right now? Man, facts facts, bro, And I work at
Speaker 1: the radio, And I told when I left because I
Speaker 1: had my lady with me, and when I left, we
Speaker 1: was talking about that ship, and I was like I
Speaker 1: needed to hear that, yeah, dog, to hear it because
Speaker 1: once again, like when we were talking about See I'm
Speaker 1: only reiterating this because they wasn't here for the conversation
Speaker 1: other day. Like I was explaining to you that I'm
Speaker 1: from an era of the single. I'm from an era
Speaker 1: of the radio record or the party record. I moved
Speaker 1: to Miami two thousand and ten. That's prime strip club
Speaker 1: for sure. I was there for Live on Sunday King
Speaker 1: of Diamonds money. I know what that shit is like
Speaker 1: to be with somebody now, and I'm very underrated to
Speaker 1: I am super cheap. Let's just get that understood. I
Speaker 1: have never went to King of Diamonds and got singles.
Speaker 1: Used to go every Monday. Likewise, See, I like to
Speaker 1: go to the strip club and eat food. What the
Speaker 1: fuck am I getting money for? Wayne just got a
Speaker 1: box of ones a box and went here, here, here,
Speaker 1: What the fuck am I going to get singles for?
Speaker 1: So you think you think I'm impressing him, going to
Speaker 1: get this rack of singles? Hell not this. Niggas just
Speaker 1: want to sol a million and in the first week.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm gonna get out
Speaker 1: of his box. But that's the type of person he is.
Speaker 1: So like I used to always tell people when I
Speaker 1: got around young money. That fucked me up to be
Speaker 1: like when we on the road and he pulling the
Speaker 1: red lobster. We on an eighteen hour bus ride, he
Speaker 1: pulling the red lobster. I tell this story a lot
Speaker 1: because I'll be trying to paint a picture for people
Speaker 1: pulling the red lobster. He gets steak shrimp baked potato.
Speaker 1: It's twenty one orders of steak shrimping baked potatoes. I'm
Speaker 1: not paying for that. Who paid for that? You got?
Speaker 1: Are you chipping in for that? Mac? Who paying for this? Mac?
Speaker 1: Mills just order. Shit went like that for a long time. No,
Speaker 1: it went like that forever. It never stopped. So when
Speaker 1: it got to a point where, like you were saying,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, he taking a forty thoual bag,
Speaker 1: He'll or a fifty thous bag here. It's like, I
Speaker 1: know why, you know what I'm saying, because that shit
Speaker 1: is on his shoulders and that's all he know since
Speaker 1: he was thirteen. All he know is that. All he
Speaker 1: know is that lifestyle chauffeur. He's overhead. Had to be crazy,
Speaker 1: it's all he know. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: always tell people if I was if I was if
Speaker 1: I was Lil Wayne like, if I had Lil Wayne
Speaker 1: money like, I would have been way worse. I would
Speaker 1: have been worse, way worse. But he had money since
Speaker 1: he was so young, so he understood how to take
Speaker 1: care of his homies, how to try to put j
Speaker 1: Mills and Corey Gunns, and even if it don't work,
Speaker 1: he understood how to try. So I could accept that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like, like I said, the shit ended how
Speaker 1: it was supposed to end for me as far as
Speaker 1: that chapter. Now, of course, I still fuck with Wayne,
Speaker 1: I still fuck with everybody else. But do I think
Speaker 1: I could have got more out of Young Money had
Speaker 1: I stayed? You know, do you think you should have
Speaker 1: left earlier? Yeah? Yeah, I probably should have left Young
Speaker 1: Money years before I left. But once again, man, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. Wayne gave me an opportunity that
Speaker 1: nobody else has ever given me before was since So
Speaker 1: I don't feel I did anything wrong, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like I could have left, But
Speaker 1: I remember people used to tell me, Man, you should
Speaker 1: go to Mayback, you should go to it, you should
Speaker 1: go here, you should go here, and if you think
Speaker 1: about it, Wayne was the only place I ever went
Speaker 1: other than having my own deals. Yeah, I think that, like,
Speaker 1: signing with an artist is a crapshoot anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: when you signed with another artist. I think Wayne pulled
Speaker 1: it off nicely. With Nicky and Drake, I think Ross
Speaker 1: did a great job. But like, there's plenty more examples
Speaker 1: of rappers who have labels. Yo, God, he's doing a
Speaker 1: great job right now. Yeah, but there's plenty of other
Speaker 1: artists who it's like you just look and it's like
Speaker 1: the problem is most of the time, when you signed
Speaker 1: with an artist, they don't want the people they signed
Speaker 1: to be bigger than them. Yeah, and that's you know
Speaker 1: with Wayne, that didn't happen with Ross that that wasn't
Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, some people been around so long it's
Speaker 1: not their first time. Like when Ross did the whole
Speaker 1: Mayback music, shit, he had already did Triple C's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had already already did writing for Slippings. He had
Speaker 1: already did so much shit, So it wasn't his first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: MMG Energy in like two thousand and like ten eleven,
Speaker 1: so crazy, and I feel like young Money. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this, I don't feel Young Money gets enough credit
Speaker 1: for bringing back that aura, that Crew Crew. You feel
Speaker 1: like after like Dipset and G Unit, that was it.
Speaker 1: That was the That was the end of that era
Speaker 1: of like d Block, G United, Dip said, uh Rough Riders, Rockefeller,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm like all of those like Crew
Speaker 1: and then like Young Money came and I remember we
Speaker 1: used to get joked on. It was the joke. You know.
Speaker 1: We had the poppy singles and shit like that, but
Speaker 1: we still had like Dedication three, Dedication four, like no ceilings.
Speaker 1: Like the reason why we was like like I Am Music.
Speaker 1: Tour was like six months. It was like the biggest tour.
Speaker 1: But at that time, that's when Top was creating uh TD.
Speaker 1: Like I met Jay Rock through Wayne. Yeah, they had
Speaker 1: a song that was first single on Warner Broads and
Speaker 1: Wayne directed the video. I remember when we flew out here.
Speaker 1: I remember that was when Kendrick was being at that
Speaker 1: video shoot like yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay
Speaker 1: in the trailer right, Like you gotta understand I'm from Harlem,
Speaker 1: Wayne out here with Dicky's and Red Band, Dannis and shit,
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm new. I don't even know Wayne for
Speaker 1: being like this yet, you know what I'm saying, I'm like,
Speaker 1: fuck is nickoson? But I'm learning, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, he like, yeah, I'm directing his
Speaker 1: video for my uh, for my man's artists. I'm like, who, so,
Speaker 1: my man j Rock. I didn't know who TD was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know none of that. But I remember, like
Speaker 1: after Young Money, they was the first people I remember
Speaker 1: being like, oh, they building some ship like what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Not the same thing, of course not. But I remember
Speaker 1: because Schoolboy Q was a part of GED. That was
Speaker 1: Tiger's crew. I don't want to say Tigers. They was
Speaker 1: all crew, you know what I'm saying. I remember shouted
Speaker 1: shout out the Q. I remember I remember Q from
Speaker 1: being around Tiger, Like, so, I already knew he was nice,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I already knew Jay Rock
Speaker 1: from Wayne doing the video. I had heard the apps
Speaker 1: soul uh. A lot of us knew, like found out
Speaker 1: about Kendrick. What was this section of section eighty? Section eighty,
Speaker 1: But he was on one of he was on Drake Shit,
Speaker 1: he was on like an interlude or something? Am I bugging?
Speaker 1: Was Kendrick on like a Drake Carter four? Nah, Kendrick
Speaker 1: was on like because I remember we asked him. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, who that I don't remember? He broke
Speaker 1: down the verse about how Kendrick was talking about how
Speaker 1: they met and he went here and he was like,
Speaker 1: that's exactly how it happened. Was it a Drake album?
Speaker 1: I think that was yo? For real? If I'm bugging
Speaker 1: right now, how to apologize had to be Carter four.
Speaker 1: Carter four had all those interviews with like bun be
Speaker 1: Was it a Drake album? Oh the way, You're right,
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. He was on a yeah, on
Speaker 1: on a Drake album? Kendrick it was on take Care
Speaker 1: all right, So now I'm peeping. I'm like, but at
Speaker 1: this time, Ross is doing ye married to Live there
Speaker 1: you go? Because I remember asking Drake like you know,
Speaker 1: and he broke in and he was like, YEO, he's
Speaker 1: not and he was rapping the verse like he said,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly how it happened, like how we you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kendrick was already like on his way there. So pd
Speaker 1: E mayeback music. They took that whole ship and ran
Speaker 1: with it. That kind of like birthed the whole. And
Speaker 1: then after that, like Cole look with Dreamville. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he built that ship. It wasn't quick.
Speaker 1: But if you if you look at and you look
Speaker 1: at if you look at the Freshman cover, and I
Speaker 1: got a lot I got in all sorts of trouble
Speaker 1: for saying my fucking man was supposed to be under
Speaker 1: cover I worded. Remember when I said the double XL
Speaker 1: cover was whack because Vado wasn't on it. Oh. I
Speaker 1: caught so much flak for that because everybody thought I
Speaker 1: meant every person on the cover was whack because that
Speaker 1: was the J Cole Fra Gizz and that was and
Speaker 1: that was one of the best fucking covers. It turned
Speaker 1: out to be one of the best covers. I was
Speaker 1: just mad my home he wasn't on there. I felt
Speaker 1: he deserved to be on there. Cool worded it wrong.
Speaker 1: But if you look at from that time on, Cole
Speaker 1: built Dreamville kind of fast. He had because out of
Speaker 1: everybody on that cover, him and he had a he
Speaker 1: had Omens signed to Dreamville. Fro There's a guy named
Speaker 1: Omen that he had signed to the LA like Dreamgo
Speaker 1: was a thing for a while. No, but I mean,
Speaker 1: like from what the public first sword because young money
Speaker 1: was a thing for a while. Young money been in things.
Speaker 1: Does Jr. Smith have a young Money tattoo on his throat?
Speaker 1: Young Money? Is he? I was just was homie, Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know, Yo, Why does this NBA player have
Speaker 1: a gigantic young money tattoo on his fucking throat? Then? Guys,
Speaker 1: I when he was at the Bedrock video shooting I noticed.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, she got a stupid, big young
Speaker 1: money tattoo on his neck. Jesus Christ, the homies. He's
Speaker 1: gotta regret that tattoo, you know what? Like, I don't
Speaker 1: really think jayall Smith regrets too much. That might be fair.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody who could drink honey on game night,
Speaker 1: I don't think they regret too much. Man shout out
Speaker 1: to Jay all Man. So look, your album is out,
Speaker 1: and is this like the beginning of you putting out
Speaker 1: a ship ton of like what's your like? Early earlier
Speaker 1: this year I put out poll Music five. Last year
Speaker 1: I put out Feels Like I was here before Keywords.
Speaker 1: My thing right now is just figure out where you
Speaker 1: fit in? Right now, there's so much shit going on.
Speaker 1: Like I love the drill shit, of course, I love
Speaker 1: the lyrical shit. I love the melodic shit. I love
Speaker 1: the auto tuned shit. I really wish I could fit
Speaker 1: in all of those lanes. But I've tried it, and
Speaker 1: I don't just rap. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I learned, I learned. I say this shit a whole lot.
Speaker 1: You can probably find a million interviews. Whou I say this.
Speaker 1: Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 1: There you go, man, Come on, man, just because you
Speaker 1: can do something does not mean you should. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I could go out and I
Speaker 1: could fuck ten strippers in the strip club, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you should. There you go. Whether you got a
Speaker 1: girl at home or not, Well, if you don't have
Speaker 1: a girl at home, no, it's still it's COVID, it's cold.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't fuck. You shouldn't have sex with ten different
Speaker 1: people at all. Right now, I mean pandemic times I
Speaker 1: concur but you know, just there you go. I was
Speaker 1: just giving you an analogy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like I can DJ you know, I can get
Speaker 1: on the wheels of still and should I I mean
Speaker 1: I should probably, I should probably not you can probably
Speaker 1: you can probably tell him to load a beat up
Speaker 1: right now, talking ship, I'm not rapping, see now you could?
Speaker 1: Should you? Should you? Of course? Not like should you
Speaker 1: really do that? I don't know if you. So That's
Speaker 1: where I'm at with it, man, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: see where I fit in. I'm having fun with this ship.
Speaker 1: I'm independent with empire. I love my splits, y'all in trouble.
Speaker 1: When I hit it, hit the liquid one, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's what that's the beauty of this Eraror.
Speaker 1: And that's probably what made me leave Young Money too,
Speaker 1: just realizing I ain't need a machine in this Eraror
Speaker 1: no more. You know what I'm saying the middle man,
Speaker 1: it's not the it's like it's not to say it
Speaker 1: like that. But I come from an era of the machine.
Speaker 1: I was part of Warner Brothers Machine. I was part
Speaker 1: of Universal Machine and Steve Rifkin over at SRC and
Speaker 1: a part of Young Moneys. But you were signing a SRC.
Speaker 1: I was signed the Universal and then when they started
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of shifting and ship like that like
Speaker 1: me and my team, we didn't really like the David
Speaker 1: Banner Acon era src. Yeah, David Banner was up there.
Speaker 1: I've been being on the road with David Banner. I've
Speaker 1: been on the road with Remy there with Akon, Steve Rifkin,
Speaker 1: Ah man, shout out to Steve Rifkins manage and Buster rhymes,
Speaker 1: now what Yeah, it's Buster's manager. Know that's dope man,
Speaker 1: and shout out the Buster too. I've seen an interview
Speaker 1: with Buster was talking about the surgery. Uh, surgery you had.
Speaker 1: That shit fucked me up because that's the same surgery
Speaker 1: I had. And I never really heard nobody like talk
Speaker 1: about that ship ship like. It scared me from the
Speaker 1: perspective of Uh, you know, when some shit happened to you,
Speaker 1: you don't feel it. No, that's a bad analogy. You
Speaker 1: have a you have a you smoke weed. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a smoke a bunch of weed and then walk
Speaker 1: in the mall and wonder why everybody looking at you.
Speaker 1: You think maybe you're sneak. You know, you got the
Speaker 1: new sneak, you got some new Yeezy's on it. You
Speaker 1: don't similar and you don't realize you smell like the
Speaker 1: back of the dispensary, like it all just came in
Speaker 1: and you opened it and rubbed it all over your skin.
Speaker 1: But you're high, so you don't you cool? You don't
Speaker 1: smell that shit that's me, or I don't I smell amazing.
Speaker 1: I still smell like the colonne I sprayed this morning.
Speaker 1: You smoked eight blunts since then, meals you don't smell
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm in it, so I don't see it.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I seen Wayne have a
Speaker 1: seizure on the jet in the air. Now I have siezures.
Speaker 1: I have sieges in my sleep. Oh wow, like scariest
Speaker 1: shit ever. So but every time I ever had a
Speaker 1: siege in my sleep, I wake up and I'm cool, Like,
Speaker 1: so you were there when we had a seizure, like
Speaker 1: two different times, scariest shit I ever seen in my
Speaker 1: life because it made me feel you know, it made
Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, that's what I look like like.
Speaker 1: And then when he got up, he was cool. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo was his like lean usage that bad?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was the lean because I don't sibling and I
Speaker 1: have seen everyone's kind of uh come to that conclusion.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I can't really say it
Speaker 1: because once again, I don't sibling, and I have a
Speaker 1: history of you never sibling. I tried it one time,
Speaker 1: but I tried it by my quad. I tried it
Speaker 1: by mistake me and gutta gut it was and hit
Speaker 1: factory one time and I had a sun kiss and
Speaker 1: you know, you got the white cups with the ice
Speaker 1: poured it in there, but I didn't realize that, uh
Speaker 1: he had some lean and some sun kiss too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying somewhere. So when I hit the cup,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this ship tastes sweet, you know, tastes good. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like I'm thinking, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a good ass sun kiss, right,
Speaker 1: And I caught one hit it again. I remember like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was just like slump beat playing like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get up. I feel good though, but I'm just
Speaker 1: wow comfortable, like and he like, mil bitch, drunk my cup, bitch.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, that was my cup, Like males, your
Speaker 1: cup over there, bitch, this is my cup right here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit. And that's when I realized the
Speaker 1: whole time I was drinking gutta gutter cup. Did everyone like,
Speaker 1: was it like a panic when like he had a seizure,
Speaker 1: because that's an alarming thing to witness, especially Wayne. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that shit is a panic. But it was a panic
Speaker 1: for me because everybody looking at me like males you do, like, yo,
Speaker 1: I've never I usually be in the molde he's in
Speaker 1: right now. And I remember when he woke up, like yo,
Speaker 1: I'm good, everybody, you know, and they had the EMS
Speaker 1: on the thing. Get the fuck off my jet because
Speaker 1: we had to land the jet. We was going to La.
Speaker 1: We had to land the jet for the emest to
Speaker 1: get on, and now we got to put the jet
Speaker 1: back up in the air. So rich nigga shit, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't live on rich nigga shit, even with money.
Speaker 1: I want to live on broke nigga shit. You live
Speaker 1: like you broke, you'll stay rich man. Put this bitch
Speaker 1: back up in the motherfucking air, y'all know, not much
Speaker 1: this fucking gas course. I was like, that guy has
Speaker 1: a point. Right now. We did land his jet. Now
Speaker 1: we have to put it back up in the air
Speaker 1: and land it again. It's a whole nother fee that
Speaker 1: none of us are paying. He had a seizure though.
Speaker 1: Now now granted, I'm like I get it. I get
Speaker 1: where he's coming from. Oh, y'all, get the fuck up
Speaker 1: my jet. Come on this. I gotta get to LA
Speaker 1: because he gotta get to LA to do an event,
Speaker 1: like a video game event or something like that. Now
Speaker 1: you know you don't do that. Now you have to
Speaker 1: pay for the gas to put the jet back up again.
Speaker 1: And you got to give them back that deposit they
Speaker 1: gave you because you ain't show up to that event.
Speaker 1: You lost twice. Today jet go back up in the air.
Speaker 1: He like, Milsy, He like that shit was that bad?
Speaker 1: It was? It was serious like that. And I promise
Speaker 1: you I did not want to you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to really say that, but I'm like, she was bad. Bro.
Speaker 1: That was the first time I probably told him soning.
Speaker 1: He ain't want to hear. It's like, bro, that shit
Speaker 1: was the scaries shit I've ever seen in my life. Like, like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you like that ever again.
Speaker 1: My nigga. He's like word, He's like, believe that blood
Speaker 1: love you know what I'm saying. And then after that
Speaker 1: when we land, he went to he went to the
Speaker 1: hospital and that's when he stayed overnight. And you know,
Speaker 1: but that shit was scary, man, because it's like and
Speaker 1: that's why I said, I don't want to I don't
Speaker 1: want to put it to the Lean. I don't. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because when I have seizures, it's
Speaker 1: from overworking myself. It's high blood pressure and low sugar count.
Speaker 1: It's it's an imbalance, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't Perks and Zannies and Lean because
Speaker 1: I got a history of this shit and I don't
Speaker 1: do none of that shit, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like the closest to a pill, I'm gonna get his
Speaker 1: partying with an E Pill or Molly back in the day.
Speaker 1: Just it does seemed like that that is so different
Speaker 1: people bodies, you know, they it shit hit different. But
Speaker 1: that that's some scary shit. Damn. Was that like something
Speaker 1: where like you think that like it maybe changed the
Speaker 1: way he thought about some of the recreational use of
Speaker 1: stuff he had going on. Probably probably when you almost die,
Speaker 1: your life flash before you you think about all sorts
Speaker 1: of shit that's whether you get shot, you get stabbed,
Speaker 1: you get jumped, natural causes. I remember when the doctor
Speaker 1: told me I got you know, I got six months
Speaker 1: if I don't get this surgery. And then he said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you be with your lady in six
Speaker 1: months and walked out like damn, like I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you figure out if you want to get this surgery
Speaker 1: or if you want to wait it out a little bit.
Speaker 1: And at that time, it's April, my daughter three years old.
Speaker 1: You're telling me I'm not making it to And then
Speaker 1: when you go through all that, it's like, nah, I
Speaker 1: gotta put everything back in perspective. And I promised myself
Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen, I wouldn't deprive my fans. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: cheat myself. I wouldn't waste my time overthinking shit or
Speaker 1: holding the music hostage. You know what I'm saying a
Speaker 1: lot of times, as artists, we hold music hostage because
Speaker 1: we playing so much. You're thinking, like, yo, I need
Speaker 1: I need somebody to push this man, push that shit yourself.
Speaker 1: You got Instagram, you got Twitter, you got stories, you
Speaker 1: got timelines. Be annoying, be annoying, Be like the bitches
Speaker 1: that be like, hey, follow my hot bestie and never
Speaker 1: met them bitches before, be like that. I know it
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, fellas, but the moment you swallow that pride
Speaker 1: and you stop thinking like it's eight or twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: this shit is different. Man. People out here making all
Speaker 1: sorts of money that don't have no hot music. Now.
Speaker 1: Not saying you need to put out bullshit music, but
Speaker 1: this is the era of don't work harder, work smarter, man.
Speaker 1: Facts like I'm the king of working hard. I'm the
Speaker 1: king of working super super hard. But somewhere not connecting
Speaker 1: the dots because you so busy working hard, you so
Speaker 1: busy busting your ass working hard, you ain't connecting the
Speaker 1: dots with the work, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's where That's where I'm at with it. I don't
Speaker 1: know where a lot of other artists at with it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like everything is different now. Man. We
Speaker 1: were talking about Tiger over there, and I was telling you,
Speaker 1: I remember when Tiger came out with the album Singing
Speaker 1: a few years ago. Now, everybody was laughing at him.
Speaker 1: Everybody was laughing at him. Ship said, dude, dude, and
Speaker 1: he never looked back. Tiger had a rough patch. Man,
Speaker 1: we all do. I mean, like the thing is he
Speaker 1: gets just kept throwing up shots, and then the taste
Speaker 1: was I'm gonna say, some real ship. Man. I've been
Speaker 1: in this game a long time. I know people may
Speaker 1: not realize it, they may not look at it like that,
Speaker 1: because I came into this ship young, and I done
Speaker 1: did battle solo ship young, money, shit and dependent ship
Speaker 1: ups and downs all that. I've been in this ship
Speaker 1: two decades. When you in this game as long as
Speaker 1: somebody like me or you got longevity in this ship
Speaker 1: and you learn how to stay afloat, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: some patches. Wheen shit get dropp. Of course, every one
Speaker 1: of my favorite artists had a dry patch. Nas is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists. Not Stradamus album exists there,
Speaker 1: Project Windows was so. Jay Z is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite artists. The Kingdom Come album exists. I would I
Speaker 1: would argue Kingdom Comes in second words, it exists, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, however, you want to look
Speaker 1: at it the same way, same way you said Carter
Speaker 1: Fall it was cool, it wasn't cool. That might be your,
Speaker 1: That might be your. It exists. There's a listen if
Speaker 1: I don't want to die, I tried it. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of I'm not diving down. Lil Wayne's had a
Speaker 1: rough decade. Yeah, it's a but you gotta think quality wise.
Speaker 1: Quarter three and then no Ceilings, and then after no Ceilings,
Speaker 1: shit just went left. For me as a fan, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, listen, yeah, but you gotta take
Speaker 1: the good with the bad, because if you're gonna take
Speaker 1: those four or five, then you gotta take the fifteen
Speaker 1: before that that was a monumental. And now we gotta wait.
Speaker 1: We got to wait to Drought and Dedication one and
Speaker 1: dedicate I mean we got a way to card A
Speaker 1: one to two to three. I just think back to
Speaker 1: like I Am not a human degrees? What was the
Speaker 1: rock star album we was doing? Rock music had dropped?
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember had dropped the world with
Speaker 1: eminem which was a solid, solid song that hit number one.
Speaker 1: The album probably did Little Wayne could literally ship. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Did we listen to the Snoop Lion album?
Speaker 1: Did we listen to the Snoop Lion album? Of course? Not? Alright,
Speaker 1: listen to number one Everything's not for every No way
Speaker 1: the Snoop Dogg album was number one on the Gospel
Speaker 1: album hit, number one on the bill on the reggae chart.
Speaker 1: Check it. Okay, wait wait wait what chart are we
Speaker 1: talking about here, because we're not talking about the overall Billboard.
Speaker 1: All I'm telling you is, I'll give you ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars right now if if Snoop Dog's had a number
Speaker 1: one overall album in the last seven years on Billboard,
Speaker 1: you don't think now, you don't think gospel chart, yes,
Speaker 1: because there's like two gospels. We move in the goal post. Now,
Speaker 1: come on, no, you just moved a gold post. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. Everything's not for everybody. He might have been
Speaker 1: number one on the reggae chart. That's number one, No,
Speaker 1: but not number one like number one it's number one.
Speaker 1: That's like saying I got a number one death metal
Speaker 1: song out right now, Like it's like yeah, but like
Speaker 1: it's number one. It's number one to somebody in the genre. No,
Speaker 1: you know what you just said. It's number one to somebody,
Speaker 1: may not be number one to you. They shout out
Speaker 1: to Wayne Man, shout out to Snoop too, shout shout
Speaker 1: the Snoop. But we're not slandering them. What We're basically
Speaker 1: saying is when you have longevity like a Wayne or Snoop,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some drop patches. Were you disappointed number
Speaker 1: Carter five? It was cool? It wasn't It wasn't the
Speaker 1: other Carters. It wasn't like Carter two. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: Carter three, it wasn't like Carter four. I actually think
Speaker 1: it was better than Carter four. But that's not saying
Speaker 1: much because I thought Cardi four was and now you see,
Speaker 1: but but that's you. I think Carter four better than
Speaker 1: Carter five. So because you were around like the Carter
Speaker 1: five ship. I know a lot of those songs were
Speaker 1: older obviously, but like how many I don't think I
Speaker 1: was around for Carter five. I don't know. You weren't
Speaker 1: around when it came out, but I mean like they
Speaker 1: had to be, like it changed so much, That's what
Speaker 1: I mean, because there was a change. It was supposed
Speaker 1: to come out for so long, and then he was
Speaker 1: getting held against his will by baby Oh the free Wheezy.
Speaker 1: I remember that he put that on the title. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: well shout out to it, shot through my man tune
Speaker 1: and he worked through it. He worked through it, man,
Speaker 1: like That's That's one thing I will say about Wayne.
Speaker 1: He ain't never lay down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of rappers that was out when he
Speaker 1: was out. They don't they laid down, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They threw the towel and they was like,
Speaker 1: fuck it. You know what I'm saying. He rapped through it.
Speaker 1: Even if it was some ship that you didn't want
Speaker 1: to hear, he rapped through it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So everybody gonna have they dry spots. But I'll be
Speaker 1: feeling like I'm or for the comeback story. I'm more
Speaker 1: for like, damn, how did you bounce back off that ship?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, they counted Drake out. Everybody was, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: you had a son? You fucking don't. It's because Drake
Speaker 1: lost the battle. I didn't. They counted. They counted Meek
Speaker 1: out too. Is that a world that they counted him out?
Speaker 1: Everyone counted out your dub You got wat juice all over.
Speaker 1: This is true, and it changed. I remember seeing it
Speaker 1: in my own eyes, like and everything changed. I remember
Speaker 1: people really trying to say, like Drake was done. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Drake got fried up. By it.
Speaker 1: I always that I was Drake. I was like I
Speaker 1: was living out here. None of Drake's fans know who
Speaker 1: pushed it to you, I was living out here. They
Speaker 1: thought Aubrey was done in terms of that battle. He
Speaker 1: was done. They thought Drake was done. They thought he
Speaker 1: was done for And that was the only time he
Speaker 1: had any sort of stench. Well not the only time.
Speaker 1: Shout to quintin that that that that was funny when
Speaker 1: he said, uh damn a nigga got points for saying
Speaker 1: I had a son, My points for saying who my
Speaker 1: girl was Drake definitively And you know what happened after that.
Speaker 1: He took the L and then God's plan came. Of course,
Speaker 1: that's not an L in that specific battle. Now, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not because I don't want to shoot on push
Speaker 1: your tea because I'm not. I'm not. I don't have
Speaker 1: anything to do with that anymore. But push a push
Speaker 1: a put put through that out. If Drake never even replied,
Speaker 1: I could take if I could take that, if I
Speaker 1: could take that one, if that's the last high point
Speaker 1: that we have for pushing tea, Oh, come on, Daytona
Speaker 1: came out after that. I said it's a classic album.
Speaker 1: But you're not talking to me about a classic album
Speaker 1: right now. You're talking to me about a verse over
Speaker 1: a jay Z beat, which was a little light something
Speaker 1: and so light. And then I'm telling you, and then
Speaker 1: God's Plan came out, and then we forgot about anything
Speaker 1: that had to do with Push your Tea. Now I'm
Speaker 1: saying as far as Drake go, because I can't, just
Speaker 1: because because I gotta keep this a buck right now,
Speaker 1: I can't shoot on Push your Tea, like push your
Speaker 1: Tea career, don't take my career and like put his
Speaker 1: foot on it and like move it around a little
Speaker 1: bit like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm a realist,
Speaker 1: but I'm also going to be a realist and tell
Speaker 1: you after that high point for Push your Tea, I
Speaker 1: don't remember. Look, and somebody might be like Mills, I
Speaker 1: don't remember how point from you ever shut I get
Speaker 1: it technically came out. We just haven't. We just haven't
Speaker 1: regular just regular conversation. Yeah, listen, long time, but look,
Speaker 1: but look, look, because I love Drake man, I love Drake.
Speaker 1: Anything with young money involved, I'm taking the young money side.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck Drake did ordered a microphone
Speaker 1: with push your T's autograph on it back in the days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I remember when I seen that and I was like,
Speaker 1: you might, you might. That was like a bad one,
Speaker 1: but then you know, but then that turns out, that
Speaker 1: turns into like the super senior's still bothering the freshman.
Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, go to college. I push it's that guy, Bro,
Speaker 1: Now push it. Look listen, Push your te is undeniably literally,
Speaker 1: it's probably not impossible for Drake to like lose in
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things because he's the biggest ever. Look, people,
Speaker 1: you can no, you can't lose. You can lose because people.
Speaker 1: You you have people that will say, now Drake lost
Speaker 1: that battle. Then you have people that say you won
Speaker 1: the battle. You got people saying he won the battle.
Speaker 1: You literally have people that they're like twelve year old
Speaker 1: white kids who don't know what what what see? But
Speaker 1: see what you know what you're saying right now? You
Speaker 1: move in the goal post. The goal post is who
Speaker 1: cares how old they are. There are people that will
Speaker 1: say ether was whack because they are jay Z stands.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a no stand, I'm a nod stand. Too,
Speaker 1: and you're knock. My favorite me to beat was Whack.
Speaker 1: But also, I mean you know what Ether was before that? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so listen in retrospect. In retrospect, say it takeover? Was it?
Speaker 1: Say no no? But Takeover wasn't a special it was
Speaker 1: There was a NOAs line in there. Right. If we're
Speaker 1: talking about which song is better sonically to listen to,
Speaker 1: why does he move the gold? Because Ether is a
Speaker 1: better disc record but the but which song is better
Speaker 1: to listen to it? I didn't ask you which song
Speaker 1: was better? I said who lost jay Z? And I
Speaker 1: said there are people like you who still say but
Speaker 1: the better than the It's almost like when you watched
Speaker 1: Belly as a kid and you were like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: ship is fire. But then you watch it as a
Speaker 1: grown ass man and you like the last twenty minutes
Speaker 1: and you're life watch But it's really a good movie.
Speaker 1: If you've been hustling and you went out of town
Speaker 1: and you got money and you had to drive around
Speaker 1: and intrepid and a nigga snitched on you, and then
Speaker 1: you was getting money and then you had to you
Speaker 1: did that before, is a great movie. It's I don't
Speaker 1: know if you did that before. I don't know. You
Speaker 1: keep saying that. There's people that say, y'all, y'all really
Speaker 1: like push your tea in the I don't like to
Speaker 1: push your tea too. I love the album, Like what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So? Who won the battle? The
Speaker 1: overall battle? No? Or the four four four Freestyle and
Speaker 1: the other ship? Like the other ship for them? I
Speaker 1: like four Freestyle because it had I didn't. We didn't
Speaker 1: know he had a son. And you think Drake should
Speaker 1: have should have replied. I think that would have been
Speaker 1: good for Rap. I think that would have been good
Speaker 1: for Rap if you apply. I think it was a
Speaker 1: bad look that he didn't reply, and it was a
Speaker 1: bad look that he wasn't that similar to did Meek reply, Well, no,
Speaker 1: Meek didn't need a reply because Jesus Christ. His reply
Speaker 1: to Fucking Back to Back was atrocious. It was he
Speaker 1: ruined the Undertaker's theme song. It was really bad. It
Speaker 1: was over. It was like, okay, dude, Drake just hits
Speaker 1: you with two of them brouh and then you coming
Speaker 1: back with this bullshit. But but see on top of
Speaker 1: that and listen with me. But I and and and
Speaker 1: and I'm not the biggest Drake fan in the world,
Speaker 1: but he undoubtedly beat the ship out of Meek milling
Speaker 1: that it was. It wasn't even a fucking question. It
Speaker 1: was really sad. I remember We're in Tampa and I
Speaker 1: was just sitting there, like, man, it might really be
Speaker 1: over for Meek Man because this was when he was
Speaker 1: on Twitter tweet because that's when you know what he
Speaker 1: was like what he had the Trump Twitter fingers and
Speaker 1: you know what it be sometimes too. You know it'd
Speaker 1: be sometimes too. Sometimes you can dig a hole with
Speaker 1: uh the fans. I know this from battling like you
Speaker 1: could talk so much ship that they want to see
Speaker 1: you lose. Like I think that's what happened with Meek
Speaker 1: like Drake, not to say like back to back, but listen,
Speaker 1: Meek jumped out though yeah he was talking crazy you
Speaker 1: you you you made it with Drake looked like he
Speaker 1: was countering. So you made people be like, you made
Speaker 1: people pick sides, you made them be like, now we
Speaker 1: like him more than you. Even if you're right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, if you've given us you know
Speaker 1: what to go back to the Kanye jay Z ship,
Speaker 1: even if you're giving us evidence and you're right, we
Speaker 1: don't care. That's what I've seen at that time, and
Speaker 1: I think we don't give a fuck. We still like
Speaker 1: him more than you, and that's I think that's when
Speaker 1: it was just like, hold up, he don't write. He
Speaker 1: didn't write that ship though, so we don't care. I
Speaker 1: ain't need one dance and we're gonna say those songs too. Hey,
Speaker 1: back to back was crazy. The fact that you had
Speaker 1: to go to a night club for an X amount
Speaker 1: of years and hear the disc song in every club
Speaker 1: for two years straight. That ship was I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. I'm a fan of all of the disrecord ship.
Speaker 1: That's why I like this type of conversation, whether it's Pushers,
Speaker 1: Drake Drake or Knives or whole no, whoever you I
Speaker 1: don't care if you want to talk about Kim and
Speaker 1: fifty close beef though, Beanie Seagull and Jada, Yo, how
Speaker 1: did you take that? Look a here? Why this nigga
Speaker 1: took it here? Earnt my spot? Ain't nobody put me
Speaker 1: here closest you hear the Beanie shit and the Jada shit,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, so now this conversation is going somewhere
Speaker 1: else that was a time of like that was like
Speaker 1: a real time of like niggas study and like them disraps.
Speaker 1: When I'm talking about the cruise, I was talking about
Speaker 1: d Block and dipseid g Unit, State Property. I remember
Speaker 1: that beef. That beef went for a long time. That
Speaker 1: beef went from DJ Clue mixtapes to State Property. Would
Speaker 1: drive from Philly to New York and go up the
Speaker 1: funk Master Flex and rap for a hour. Fuck SPJ
Speaker 1: Hood died to looking out for Nazi a nigga. When
Speaker 1: I find you, I'm like, whoa, Like they're from Philly.
Speaker 1: They're at the radio station on Hudson Street. Right now.
Speaker 1: This is live. This isn't like a pre recorded thing.
Speaker 1: And then like two days later kissing them or come
Speaker 1: up there stay. I was to come out with some ship.
Speaker 1: Fuck Beanie Siegel. He could suck my dick with the
Speaker 1: ship up on it. WHOA, whoa? What did he just say?
Speaker 1: They got to see each other at some point, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's why when I think
Speaker 1: about like the new beefs and it's like somebody might
Speaker 1: put out a freestyle and in this one put out
Speaker 1: like nah, this ship went from Powerhouse to live performances
Speaker 1: the niggas throwing French fries at niggas on that stage.
Speaker 1: Came out that see that's different than you freestyle over
Speaker 1: somebody beat and you put it out and deer what
Speaker 1: you're saying With that being said, that was gra replied
Speaker 1: he I wanted him to the white flag and said,
Speaker 1: shit got too real, guys. I wanted to reply, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that would have got bad because I think
Speaker 1: at some point Drake would have started saying, like which
Speaker 1: people wives he fucked and stuff like that. I think
Speaker 1: it would have gotten bad because pusha t had like
Speaker 1: five or six records just waiting for this for like,
Speaker 1: you want to know what's crazy? I said that, and
Speaker 1: everybody in the room face it because Drake everyone's wives,
Speaker 1: because that could have got so bad. That could have
Speaker 1: gotten so that could have gotten so bad, like that
Speaker 1: could have got so bad of the like, oh, you
Speaker 1: think people write for me? I wrote for him? You
Speaker 1: talk about Kanye? Think who gives everyone knows con Ryan
Speaker 1: ft and said, Ryan Fest wrote, Jesus, well, why are
Speaker 1: you so quick to tell me when somebody wrote for Kanye?
Speaker 1: But you wasn't quick to tell me what Kanye wrote
Speaker 1: for jay Z. Kanye is my favorite artist ever. Listen,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is Kanye is my favorite artist, but
Speaker 1: MC is nos on. My favorite overall artist is Kanye.
Speaker 1: But you're not You're overlooking. You're overlooking the same thing
Speaker 1: that you would put on him that he's did for
Speaker 1: other people. Because I never I don't, I don't think people,
Speaker 1: how can we How can you just Drake for having
Speaker 1: no no, not you, but just I'm just thinking, how
Speaker 1: could you dis Drake for having a ghost writer If
Speaker 1: the person you're assigned to he writes for, that's weird.
Speaker 1: This is all weird. Like we're talking, we're talking. What
Speaker 1: are we're talking? Gnis, you don't even know what you
Speaker 1: want to say. He's a gladiator. He's a Jedi when
Speaker 1: it comes to this rap ship. He's a fucking Jedi.
Speaker 1: You don't even know what you want to say. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we moved the goal post for certain People's
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. He has everything to do
Speaker 1: with this. Push your Teas hated Drake before he was
Speaker 1: bro I'm not even talking about pushing Tea. What are
Speaker 1: we I'm just talking about Drake and the ghost writing thing.
Speaker 1: Kanye has everything to do with it. Don't care that
Speaker 1: ghost ghost writers that people could say wrote for ya
Speaker 1: or wrote for this one. I could turn around and say,
Speaker 1: but yay wrote for jay Z. If we're gonna do that, okay,
Speaker 1: So now we gotta say jay Z has ghost writers,
Speaker 1: and that's a whole different conversation. But we don't want
Speaker 1: to have that conversation. Don't want to. I want to
Speaker 1: do business with rock Nation and Title, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to have this conversation. But I have to keep
Speaker 1: it real and tell you that I have footage and
Speaker 1: evidence that Kanye West came in the studio and gave
Speaker 1: him a song, a hook, and a bridge. I gotta
Speaker 1: get these devils out my life. That's Kanye. I'm from
Speaker 1: the murder capital where we murder for that's Kanye, loser
Speaker 1: for louserf I did the beat that I gave you,
Speaker 1: that I wrote that for you. That's no different than
Speaker 1: with Quentin Miller differs. I don't disagree, But so jay
Speaker 1: Z don't got ghost writers. Blame me. The Kanye reference
Speaker 1: it's in Fade the Black movie. You want me to
Speaker 1: find a time stip for you? I know it's in there.
Speaker 1: I remember I have the movie on DVD. I could go.
Speaker 1: You just don't want we don't want to accept that.
Speaker 1: I fuck that shit, right, Like, this is what I
Speaker 1: would say. I think Drake is one of the greatest
Speaker 1: artists that shit. Fuck that ship. I don't put Kanye
Speaker 1: nor Drake in the top MC's like like top ten,
Speaker 1: you can put them top artists exactly now we're talking
Speaker 1: about like MC ship like, I can't put them in
Speaker 1: that because because it is very very come on man,
Speaker 1: that fucking on crowd in two thousand and one. But
Speaker 1: Kanye wrote for him on him Black album, a couple
Speaker 1: of lines on a beat that he had brought to him.
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 1: He gave him a bridge, a hook and lines, and
Speaker 1: jay Z went in in and said it word for word. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I will get I don't
Speaker 1: want to say. I don't want to say Kanye wrote
Speaker 1: for jay Z. But if we're gonna move the gold
Speaker 1: post for certain people, you gotta keep it a buck.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta keep it a buck. Jay Z
Speaker 1: wrote for Bugs Bunny on the Space, jay Z wrote
Speaker 1: for Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg. I'm aware, but we
Speaker 1: won't say. But we won't say Snoop had ghost writers
Speaker 1: until Snoop came out a couple of weeks ago and said,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, he wrote that ship for me. Yeah, but again,
Speaker 1: why we don't how we don't look at it like that?
Speaker 1: And I love all these people. I'm not shitting on them.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to play Devil's advocate. Like if jay
Speaker 1: Z could tell me, I mean, if Snoop could tell
Speaker 1: me that jay Z wrote Still dr E and like,
Speaker 1: hell ya, that shit was banging. So I said, I
Speaker 1: won't say that. Let me I say that shit. And
Speaker 1: then I could tell you Kanye gave jay Z some
Speaker 1: shit he's not, I said, Snoop, while you overlook that,
Speaker 1: you good man, You've been in this journalism shit too, Snoop.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about Snoop, Snoop also somebody who openly
Speaker 1: admits to freestyling at this point, and they got to
Speaker 1: do with other people writing for you and has also
Speaker 1: openly admitted what does that have to do with jay Z? Right?
Speaker 1: And are we putting Snoop Dogg in the top ten discussion?
Speaker 1: He's top twenty, But I wouldn't put him in the
Speaker 1: top ten, top ten? What MC's who was doing top anything?
Speaker 1: Right now? Talking to MC, I'm just talking about you know,
Speaker 1: you're talking MC's, we're talking about ghostwriters. You you just
Speaker 1: made a whole different conversation for us to talk about.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking Top twenty. So Snoop not top ten,
Speaker 1: no top ten? What MC's So what is Snoop? If
Speaker 1: he if he could freestyle off the top of his head,
Speaker 1: top twenty, I think I think I think it's doggy.
Speaker 1: I think Snoop's discography doggy style. Dog Father here is
Speaker 1: the biggest rapper ever that you're probably right about. I
Speaker 1: didn't say he's the best or the greatest. I said
Speaker 1: he's the biggest rapper ever. He has the biggest debut.
Speaker 1: He got one of the longest illustrious career. He done
Speaker 1: had his dry patch. He had his dry patch when
Speaker 1: nobody was fucking with him and he had to go
Speaker 1: to New Orleans and he bounced back. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He did have a dry patch, just like
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre had a dry patch. But I've been there
Speaker 1: and I've done this. Dog Father. What he did was
Speaker 1: he put out one album I didn't say they don't.
Speaker 1: I said he had a draft patch. But his first
Speaker 1: album was No Limit. I said, that fucking air ball.
Speaker 1: I said, but that's the dry patch. But that was
Speaker 1: that was with New Orleans. That was with no limit. No,
Speaker 1: he got with no limit because he was in the
Speaker 1: studio doing a verse for Mystical for thirty five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars that had no fucking That is a did you
Speaker 1: hear what I just said, Snoop Dogg got with no Limit.
Speaker 1: You said he was in the studio doing a feature
Speaker 1: with Mystical for thirty five hundred dollars. He said, he
Speaker 1: was fucked up, and Masterpiece said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you thirty five thousand, and I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: meet with sug Knight. He was. That was a dry
Speaker 1: spot before No Limit. Okay, are we talking about financial
Speaker 1: dry spots or or quality of music dry spots? He
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing going, That's why he was doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean dry spot. He had doggy style, he had
Speaker 1: dog father. No, I'm telling there was no No. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what Snoop Dogg said. I'm not telling you
Speaker 1: what I think. I'm telling you that. He said he
Speaker 1: was in the financial dry spot because Sugar Knight was
Speaker 1: probably no, I don't have nothing. I don't have no deal.
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. I need you to come get me
Speaker 1: out of my deal. This is my dry spot. I
Speaker 1: am in a deal with a gang member. It's a
Speaker 1: lot bigger than me, and I can't do shit. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm here doing this verse for thirty five hundred.
Speaker 1: And I have an album called Doggie Style, and I'm
Speaker 1: here doing a verse for thirty five hundred for Mystical.
Speaker 1: That's a draft spot. That's that was before No Limit.
Speaker 1: That's a draft spot. But he bounced back. He bounced
Speaker 1: back from that. So that's just I'm talking about this
Speaker 1: quality of music wise dry spots. Yeah, you had a
Speaker 1: dray spot there too. Oh, definitely. Every everybody has draft spots. Man.
Speaker 1: That that's that's I can't sit up here and say
Speaker 1: I can't name one artist that had a full career
Speaker 1: of You could have said Kanye until fucking this old
Speaker 1: Jesus King came out. That just fuck it was a
Speaker 1: fuck it that was atrocious. You think Jesus King was
Speaker 1: the first one? Uh, I mean personally, Jesus was was
Speaker 1: the one Jesus has changed sonics and music. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask you that. I said the one yes I listened
Speaker 1: to and Heartbreaks changed the sonics and music. I think
Speaker 1: you're a couple of albums late with the Jesus. First
Speaker 1: of all, sir, relaxed. I'm just telling you wanna find
Speaker 1: a bigger Kanye fan in the world than me. Second
Speaker 1: of all, that's what will me. Kanye literally has changed
Speaker 1: it over and over as and Heartbreaks made Drake possible. Okay, so,
Speaker 1: but but Jesus did the same thing for Travis, for
Speaker 1: all these people. Like the sonics that Kanye brought into
Speaker 1: hip hop on Jesus was crazy, bro, Jesus is that ship? Yes?
Speaker 1: You don't think Travis Scott was already making that sound.
Speaker 1: Travis Scott was working with Kanye on Yees. Travis Scott
Speaker 1: was on Grand Hustle. No ship, but no, but Travis
Speaker 1: Scott was worked on Jesus with Kanye. He also was
Speaker 1: on Grand Hustle before he met Kanye. I underware he
Speaker 1: was doing songs with Young Thug and all that when
Speaker 1: he had Little Twists. That was on days before Rodeo.
Speaker 1: I know, but but that was we're talking about before
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I'm telling you that that sound
Speaker 1: was around before Kanye. He didn't bring it anywhere. Somebody
Speaker 1: bought it. You know what he did speak He sampled
Speaker 1: Travis Scott. You know, Waits and Heartbreaks wasn't a sound
Speaker 1: that he brought to us. Neither Kid Cut He brought
Speaker 1: it to him. Bro and Wayne was already doing love
Speaker 1: Lockdown came. What Kanye does is he sampled. He samples
Speaker 1: people's creative. He sampled Kid Cuddy as a huge human
Speaker 1: being for Awaits and Heartbreaks. Jay Z sampled all of
Speaker 1: the Philly niggas Flow too, definitely. Oh yeah, young, I
Speaker 1: was just talking about you swiped it. You want to say,
Speaker 1: sample or swipe? Which one we're gonna use? But the
Speaker 1: problem is is that those guys were in the studie.
Speaker 1: Kid Cuddy was there for Awaits and Harbor right and
Speaker 1: Scott was there for years. And I swiped that and
Speaker 1: I took it to a bigger level. Exactly. I didn't
Speaker 1: create it. I didn't say created said that that album
Speaker 1: made it J Dilla sound. I'm not into the I
Speaker 1: don't like I swiped it. It was hot and I
Speaker 1: swiped it. Was in Atlanta, it was hot. The difference.
Speaker 1: I'm not that, I'm not that I'm a creative. He did,
Speaker 1: I know a sound he was always gonna give Kanye.
Speaker 1: Kanye was heavily influenced by Cutting on a Ways and Heartbreaks,
Speaker 1: but cut. He was a part of that fucking album.
Speaker 1: He was heavily and was in the studio. He was heavy, alright,
Speaker 1: He was heavily and it was by Travis. Song like
Speaker 1: Day and Night from Kanye until Kid Cuddy was with
Speaker 1: we never heard and I can't stop winning. I can't
Speaker 1: we ned vibe from Kanye until so we can't say
Speaker 1: he did that. We all know that he did do
Speaker 1: It was a cutty thing. What do you mean he
Speaker 1: did it all of it. Yes, it was a cutty
Speaker 1: thing that Kanye did and did it ten times. Scott. No, no,
Speaker 1: So you're not you're telling me. You're telling me Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 1: It's not Travis West. You're telling Travis Scott for Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 1: It's okay. So they're his kids, they're his kids. Don't know.
Speaker 1: Cuddy's one of the most influential artists ever and Kanye
Speaker 1: is too. I'm not taking out away, but you got
Speaker 1: a credit due you think Kid Cuddy puts out a
Speaker 1: kid named Cuddy mixtape which was My Ship, which was
Speaker 1: like his first tape that everyone jumped on. And if
Speaker 1: it don't, if Kanye don't get behind Cuddi's moved like else.
Speaker 1: No know, what I'm saying is Kanye executed. He brought
Speaker 1: them dudes in the studio and they bought the sound.
Speaker 1: They bought that and he knocked out the park. No,
Speaker 1: you swiped because your sound is J Dilla backpack. Your
Speaker 1: sound ain't I got brought in that limb. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: see that's not even hits. In the graduation, he was
Speaker 1: sampling Daft punk and Ship. Like every single Kanye album
Speaker 1: sonically grows and is different. If you go to college dropout,
Speaker 1: you can say that Ja dealer ship, but you go
Speaker 1: to a registration, it's difficult that come around him is
Speaker 1: the sound. That's That's what I said, Kanye. He came
Speaker 1: around Kanye samples people. And once again, I don't want
Speaker 1: anybody think I just like having conversation about this is
Speaker 1: just regular conversation. You don't want every single Kanye album.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Yay. I have every single Kanye album.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like every album is different, sonically Kanye way
Speaker 1: before a lot of this ship, like He's give me
Speaker 1: beat CDs. So I'm a Kanye West fucking fanatic. We
Speaker 1: sat up here last week and I told you, niggas
Speaker 1: like Yay Cole krit Russ, I'm fanatics of this That's
Speaker 1: what That's where I'm at with it. But that being said,
Speaker 1: I this all went back to you saying, do I
Speaker 1: think Jesus was that ship? One hundred percent front to back,
Speaker 1: zero skips? That ship is a classic. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: know Bound was on that album. I remember the video
Speaker 1: for Bound came. I said, you did. You didn't make
Speaker 1: it all the way to the end of the album. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. Come on, man, and I'm
Speaker 1: a yeasy fan. I'm a blood on the leaves, blood
Speaker 1: on the leaves, all that hold my liquor. This ship
Speaker 1: Come on with Chief Keith Dog come about. That ship
Speaker 1: is crazy. Covall, Bro, Black skin Head is crazy. You're tripping, bro.
Speaker 1: That should not graduation, that should not live registration hereak.
Speaker 1: It's definitely better than Life of Pablo. That shit. Ain't
Speaker 1: none of them albums better than Life of Poplo whoa
Speaker 1: Jesus no more? No? More parties, Jesus thirty hours. Come on, bro,
Speaker 1: you wild right now? Man? I love it. I love
Speaker 1: we Kanye for now. We go about this forever. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell I love the life that camera and
Speaker 1: tell the world that Yeesus is better than Life for Pop.
Speaker 1: Jesus is definitively better than the life of Pop. Can
Speaker 1: somebody raised their hand in his room? It's four people
Speaker 1: in here? Can somebody what are we doing right now?
Speaker 1: Life of Pablo Jesus. If you want to go with
Speaker 1: Life for Pablo, put your hand up with me. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with Jesus with him and be his friend,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it. Listen, Bro, God bless uh,
Speaker 1: God bless the Life of Pablo. Great album. But Jesus
Speaker 1: was Jesus is like it's aged, don't say it. I
Speaker 1: loved it when it first came out. You about that
Speaker 1: ship the same day? Was that ship came out the
Speaker 1: same day as Born Center from J Cole and Mac Miller,
Speaker 1: I brought. I bought three albums that day. Watching movies
Speaker 1: with the soundofser was better than Jesus. You're fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: You're fucking crazy. Jesus is a fucking classic. Born Center
Speaker 1: was a good album. Jesus might be one of Kanye's
Speaker 1: worst albums. With Jesus is King, You're something fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: Jesus King, it's not better than graduation. Graduation might be.
Speaker 1: Actually think it's you're crazy. Graduation breaks Graduation to me,
Speaker 1: is I put Jesus above graduating. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're right. That's that's that's kind of like to I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I think graduation was like one of
Speaker 1: the best. That was the evolution. That's like I take
Speaker 1: cares like Drake's evolution, like my junior and senior will
Speaker 1: only get me in it, like that speaking shit into existence.
Speaker 1: I feel like like can't tell me nothing, and good
Speaker 1: life and I wonder and all of that shit like
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds and everything I'm not made me everything I am.
Speaker 1: All of that shit was a moment of like I
Speaker 1: beat fifty, I sold more than him, the Teddy Beer beat,
Speaker 1: the Bully. That shit was like a moment in time.
Speaker 1: Bro can't tell me nothing was like we all was
Speaker 1: wearing scarf, like the big fucking Palestinian scoffs around our neck, skinny.
Speaker 1: We always doing that. That was Jesus is better than graduation.
Speaker 1: I just named about eight songs that was incredible. He
Speaker 1: just had ten records. Go, but what are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? I just named eight bengas off of graduation.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to the end. Drunken Hot Girls
Speaker 1: is on fucking graduation. That song was, Yo, can't tell
Speaker 1: me nothing. Barry Bonds with Lulu Wayne is on there. Yo,
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds with Lil Wayne has not aged. Well, go
Speaker 1: listen to that song today and tell me that song
Speaker 1: is aged. Well. We outa here, baby. Big Brother was great.
Speaker 1: Big Brother was on there too. Everything I'm not mam
Speaker 1: me everything. That album's not better than late Registration. I'm
Speaker 1: still naming songs. You stopped at one. What are we talking?
Speaker 1: Blood on the leaves, black skin, heead, don't drop my
Speaker 1: look or keep going? That's three, keep going, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the good life. Can't tell me nothing. I wonder bro
Speaker 1: with Flashing Lights on there because we could stop talking
Speaker 1: right now. Flashing Lights was on late registration. Late registration
Speaker 1: to me, No, no, no, you're cheating. What do you
Speaker 1: mean you're cheating right now? Flashing Lights was on graduation.
Speaker 1: That was the I wonder was it I wonder if
Speaker 1: and then flashing like yes you lost. Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: It was a better album than Yasus. It's not better
Speaker 1: than Late Registration. It's better than Yusus lost. I mean
Speaker 1: That's registration is incredible too. You don't argue with that,
Speaker 1: my beautiful twist, Like all of these albums are better
Speaker 1: than the ten song ye'ss album, all of them. It's
Speaker 1: only about five or six like incredible records on Yeesus.
Speaker 1: Every other album, the first six records on his Shit
Speaker 1: is incredible. Jesus is like Caviard bro. It's not for everybody.
Speaker 1: That's what Yesus is like four four four when you
Speaker 1: say it's better, you might say that is a great album.
Speaker 1: I think four four four is jay Z's worst album.
Speaker 1: That's just me. I can name ten other albums that
Speaker 1: are better. I think Magnet Carter Holy Girls' worst album.
Speaker 1: I thought that album was a steaming pilot dog shit
Speaker 1: what happened? That might be what you want to say.
Speaker 1: You know what album is most left on album that
Speaker 1: gets all the hate? Blueprint three, that was the double album,
Speaker 1: that was a double album, but that ship. I like
Speaker 1: that her Blueprint two, Blueprint too, That's what I'm got
Speaker 1: to say Blueprint three was terrible too. It's Blueprint three.
Speaker 1: Blueprint three had j Cole on it. They had an
Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind on it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had the song with phar Real some bullshit, had
Speaker 1: a with Drake on there too. Yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind is biggest record. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't like Blueprint three. I didn't like Magna Carta Holy Girl.
Speaker 1: I loved four forty four. Blueprint two had some of
Speaker 1: the best Jay on it ever, but it also had
Speaker 1: some of the Remember how you said Wayne had a
Speaker 1: tough decade? Yeah, what albums did jay Z put out
Speaker 1: last decade? When did American Gangster come out? That was
Speaker 1: a great album. But I just want to go back
Speaker 1: because I remember you said Wayne had a rough decade. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you that if we're talking about the last decade.
Speaker 1: Four forty four great album, nominated for a Grammy, Watched
Speaker 1: the Throne, great album. You said that album was a
Speaker 1: rack of dog shits. Magna cart Holy Girl was not
Speaker 1: a champ. I like that album, not for me, Sir
Speaker 1: tom Ford, All that shit? Right? What else? What else
Speaker 1: came out from Home this decade? I was not a
Speaker 1: fan of the Beyonce album. But then again, there's people
Speaker 1: who think that that shit was incredible, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't hear. I mean, I mean, I liked the
Speaker 1: few songs on there. I like the few songs on
Speaker 1: the Oh yeah, come on, come on the JA Electronic
Speaker 1: It became out in January, that shit, bro Hope washed
Speaker 1: j Electronica for a whole album. I mean, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I I liked some of the joints
Speaker 1: on there. You don't like four forty four. I didn't
Speaker 1: say I don't like it. You just say it's worse
Speaker 1: to me. I can't put four four four above And
Speaker 1: this is just me having a regular convo because I'm
Speaker 1: a rapper, so I probably shouldn't be talking about other
Speaker 1: rap shit like this, but I'm a fan, so it's
Speaker 1: like reasonable doubt. Yes, in my lifetime Value one, in
Speaker 1: my lifetime Volume two Streets is watching Volume three, So
Speaker 1: you don't put four forty four above Volume one? Uh?
Speaker 1: You said, do I put four four four above Value one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Volume one is Imaginary Playmates. Lucky Great Stuff on the
Speaker 1: Street is watching. The City is Mine? A million and
Speaker 1: one questions. You must love me? No, I don't you
Speaker 1: want me to go to volume two? No? Volume two.
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I love Volume three. Neither on the
Speaker 1: way there's been a murder dope, remove your roof, nigga,
Speaker 1: Let the sun shine in. No, it's not better than
Speaker 1: that one either. You want to go to the next one.
Speaker 1: It's not better than that Black album either. It's not
Speaker 1: Colic service announcement. And I think black album is lu
Speaker 1: that kan I think black album is. I think there's
Speaker 1: only there's three right answer. Let's keep going through these albums.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite jay album? Oh, Blueprint? What's got about Blueprint? Blunt?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite jay Z album? Blueprint? That's fair? That
Speaker 1: was I think because I'm born on September eleventh, So
Speaker 1: I remember when he put the album out him in
Speaker 1: fab I think fabulous album. That showed me a lot too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember just putting Blueprint on and the city, New
Speaker 1: York was in like a real funny It wasn't like
Speaker 1: a real funny area. And uh, I remember the rulers
Speaker 1: back fucking uh uh song cry never change all I
Speaker 1: need you know what I'm saying the shit with Eminem Jesus.
Speaker 1: I remember jay Z's had a better decade than Wayne,
Speaker 1: quality of music wise, would you would you well, actually yeah,
Speaker 1: oh wait yeah so wait is one? Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: would say, you know, the last ten years, if we
Speaker 1: had to stack up music, it would be close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every every Like I said, everybody got their drop points.
Speaker 1: You know how you said you ain't like the Beyonce shit,
Speaker 1: and you ain't like the Magna Carta Holy Grail, and
Speaker 1: you ain't like a lot of people like Manna card
Speaker 1: Holy Grail. I was not one of them. A lot
Speaker 1: of people like Jesus, I was not one of them.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Most people don't like you, I think. And
Speaker 1: then bring this whole thing for us, this whole conversation,
Speaker 1: because I don't want nobody to get this misconstrued like
Speaker 1: I'm shitting on people. I'm a fan of all of
Speaker 1: these people that we talk about. That's why I can
Speaker 1: go this in depth in the conversation with you about
Speaker 1: it and not sound like I'm kicking dirt on them
Speaker 1: and not be able to praise them in the same token.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of artists that we've been talking about today, they went
Speaker 1: through errors of shit changing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we overlooked that too,
Speaker 1: prime example, push your teeth. How we was talking about
Speaker 1: like Lord Willing, and then then when his brother went
Speaker 1: to do his things, so now they not the clips
Speaker 1: no more? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: hard too. And then it's like then we've seen him
Speaker 1: on the VMA's with Yay, like oh shit, this ship
Speaker 1: might be oh yay, got a spitable where is this
Speaker 1: gonna go? Then we'll be seen where that could go.
Speaker 1: He had to reinvent himself from Lord Willing, from my
Speaker 1: I don't love her. You know, is yet to reinvent himself.
Speaker 1: He's still rapping about selling cocaine. No. But I mean
Speaker 1: when I say reinvent himself. When I say reinvent himself,
Speaker 1: I mean to a new eraror here to a new demographic.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I was young listening
Speaker 1: to the clips, so for me to be grown, and
Speaker 1: the nigga from the clips still look like the nigga
Speaker 1: from the clips in ninety eight don't even really look
Speaker 1: like he aged. But they fucked with him right now,
Speaker 1: they listening to him. You know what I'm saying, It's
Speaker 1: the same thing with Lil Wayne. He was Lil Wayne.
Speaker 1: He was on songs with Sammy and litl Zane Strike one.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He bowow and shit like that. Right,
Speaker 1: He went through eras like Lil Wayne went through the
Speaker 1: Kitty era, the you know, then the teenage era, the
Speaker 1: getting a little older era. Then it's like, oh nah,
Speaker 1: he's like one of the top artists. So now he
Speaker 1: has the top artists, Like if you look at all
Speaker 1: of them fucking evers. He went through like we were
Speaker 1: talking about Snoop. Snoop got erors of shit, Jay got
Speaker 1: errors of ship Yay Yay, got errors of shit. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like from album to album, like
Speaker 1: you were saying, shit changed. Whether it was somebody coming
Speaker 1: in with a sound and he liked it and he
Speaker 1: latched onto it or whatever it was, it worked. He
Speaker 1: did it. A lot of people might have tried to
Speaker 1: do that shit and it didn't work because a lot
Speaker 1: of people that tried to do the sounds that other
Speaker 1: people did or was popping at that time, they couldn't
Speaker 1: make it work for them. You know what I'm saying, so,
Speaker 1: same thing with Rick Ross. I remember seeing Ross in
Speaker 1: a fucking Trina video for the all about the Benjamin's
Speaker 1: movie with No Beard right, told y'all how to get down.
Speaker 1: He was out then, but he went through errors. When
Speaker 1: I'm when every Day I'm Hustling came out, it's a
Speaker 1: total different Everdent now, definitely, it's a totally different erident now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he still got he
Speaker 1: still got us wanting to hear that fly shit. He
Speaker 1: still got a nigga like me waiting like yo, when
Speaker 1: Ros's gonna do an album with Justice League, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be great. I need fifteen Rick Ross tracks over
Speaker 1: Justice League type production. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: your album is out wood panel walls out right now. Man.
Speaker 1: I rode it, recorded it, mixed it, shot all the videos,
Speaker 1: edit all of the videos, shot the documentary, edited. You
Speaker 1: handled the whole sit handled the whole ship. Man. I
Speaker 1: just had my homeboy master it because I was like,
Speaker 1: sometimes it just sounded a little a little here and there,
Speaker 1: But That's what I'm trying to get into. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get more into the the visual aspect of it.
Speaker 1: I know I'm nice. You know I'm not and that's
Speaker 1: not even to be on no cocky shit. But I
Speaker 1: know I'm nice. I know I'm dead fucking nice. But
Speaker 1: that's not enough for me right now. At one time,
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't enough, you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: right now, I want to be known for more than
Speaker 1: just being nice, you know what I'm saying. Like that's
Speaker 1: why I'm getting into the videos and directing and shit
Speaker 1: like that, not saying like I just want to come
Speaker 1: some video direct or doing documentaries and shit, and I
Speaker 1: don't rap no more because rap is my first this
Speaker 1: is my love. Like I feel like we're in an
Speaker 1: error now where you don't got to retire as a rapper.
Speaker 1: You just put out music whenever you feel like, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's what I kind of did with this one.
Speaker 1: It's available, whoopaying the walls. I got Vito on there,
Speaker 1: I got cars on there, got my brother rel on there,
Speaker 1: Anthony King the dude singing on the High Roads joint.
Speaker 1: I got him on another joint on the project too,
Speaker 1: cause from dream though. Yeah, yeah, trying to trying to
Speaker 1: just do what I do, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's real. We in the error where it's real
Speaker 1: easy to go in the booth and just throw a
Speaker 1: bunch of plugins on your ship. Try to get that
Speaker 1: right melody, but not really say nothing, but just get
Speaker 1: the right melody and do that for two verses. You
Speaker 1: don't even need three verses no more, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So my shit is more, just go talk
Speaker 1: your ship, you know what I'm saying. So all you
Speaker 1: gotta do is talk your shit. You ain't really gotta
Speaker 1: just like you told me last week, you know, since
Speaker 1: we ain't making too much club shit because we ain't
Speaker 1: in the clubs. Male, I'm gonna play the music at well.
Speaker 1: I'm so at this point, man, niggas is just spitting. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad that the industry is where it's kind
Speaker 1: of at right now, because it's kind of like open
Speaker 1: field right now. You don't know who gonna beat them next, niggas.
Speaker 1: You don't know who gonna be the person that reinvent
Speaker 1: theyself and do some two chain shit. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just pop up like damn. He been around
Speaker 1: for years. We're just starting to Damn, we're late. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of artists like that, because right
Speaker 1: now it's just downtime. Man, Like how we were talking before.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for a lot of artists that was
Speaker 1: at the high points and now this shit fucked them up,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about Roddy and Roddy rich Russ.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the whole Griselda shit. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Get well to Benny too, you
Speaker 1: know shit. Yeah, man, it's like niggas, we want to
Speaker 1: get back on the road. We want to get back
Speaker 1: out there. But if you a person that make that
Speaker 1: type of music right now, this ship might be a
Speaker 1: little it's a little sketchy because it ain't really no
Speaker 1: way for us to feel that vibe. But if you
Speaker 1: a nigga like me and you just talking some shit,
Speaker 1: you painting pictures with these words, or you really gotta
Speaker 1: do it, sit dowre and roll up a blunt poor
Speaker 1: soning or just sit there. People are listening about yep,
Speaker 1: they got their headphones in right now, you're in their cars.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing, Boom, I'm listening to you know,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to everything too right now. A lot of
Speaker 1: new shit too. There's so much you shout out. You
Speaker 1: kind of got time to kind of got time to
Speaker 1: fish right. You know what I'm saying talking about Discovery Ship.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling out, man, appreciate me come here
Speaker 1: and talk all of this ship about a bunch of
Speaker 1: rappers that's gonna think I don't like them, but I
Speaker 1: just appreciate Uh. Once again, I appreciate you letting me
Speaker 1: come through, chop it up with you all good man,
Speaker 1: talk some ship, promote the product. By the time this
Speaker 1: is out, the freestyle will be out. So you go
Speaker 1: check out the freestyle. Oh yeah, orange Face out of here. Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Go check that out, man. Yeah. Bluele Cab
Speaker 1: podcast wrapping up J Miles Oh