WEBVTT - #28 - Jae Millz 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.199 Yo, what I mean? It's another edition of that bouleg 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:08.480 Cap podcast episode number almost thirty, that's for sure, not 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.080 quite thirty. I think it's twenty eight, twenty eight. It's 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.560 twenty eight, episode number twenty eight with the homie J Mills. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.720 What a crazy day. First of all, got a shout 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:21.920 out everybody who got nominated for Grammys, Roddy Rich the Baby, 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:25.800 But most importantly, the Rap Album of the Year category 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.640 was revealed, and boy was there a lot of rappin' 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:35.640 ass rap on that category. Freddie gibbson Alchemist Alfredo headlining 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:41.440 the Album of the Year nominations for Alfredo. Then of 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:46.480 course you have a Jay Electronica's album, D Smokes Project, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:51.440 Royce the Five Nines Project, and NASA's King's Disease. So 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.680 some real dope rap music got nominated for Grammys. I 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.720 think personally, there was some obvious snubs in the Album 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:01.640 of the Year category. There's no way you do Album 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.039 of the Year and not put Roddy Rich in there. Also, 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.680 Run the Jewels Killer, Mike LP Run the Jewels four 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.080 should have been in that talk probably would have left 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:17.080 off D Smoke, probably would have left off Jay Electronica, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.120 if I'm being honest, Shout out to jay great project, 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.119 but you know, the whole album jay Z just kind 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.520 of washed him. Nonetheless, I hope Freddie Gibbs wins. It's 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.119 my favorite album of the year. And congratulations to Gangs, 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.880 the Gibbs and the Alchemists for being nominated finally because 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.759 they got snubbed last year. Him and Madlib got snubbed 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.760 last year. But I digress. YO dope episode this week. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.600 Shout out to j Mills formerly of Young Money. You know, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.080 it's crazy because we had him come up just to 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.040 do a freestyle. The freestyle's out right now on our 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.960 YouTube page. But then we started to just shoot the 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.120 shit with him and we're like, Yo, you should come 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.840 in and do an interview because he's got so much 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.120 crazy insight into the Young Money world because he was 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.600 signed a Young Money for about a decade and was 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:03.280 around for so many history moments. So this interview with 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.120 J Mills. By the way, he's got a new album 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.440 out go support that. But it really was us just 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.560 kind of diving into his time with Young Money and 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:14.200 him sharing some pretty dope stories about his time around 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.640 Drake and Nicki and Wayne for the last decade or so, 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.320 so I hope you enjoyed the episode. Shout out to 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.519 our our pod cast sponsors, per the Usual. 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Yeah, woodpano 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.840 walls with wood painted walls, wood panel, wood panel walls. Yeah. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.560 So what's that? What's that like in a car you 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:42.960 get the wood panel you know what it is? It's like, Uh. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.960 I grew up in New York City and Boston Heights, 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.680 so a lot of those apartments was The architecture was 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.360 real old school. It might have all, I know, the 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.000 kind of walls you're talking. Yeah, it might have like 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.760 five six rooms, but when you first come in, it's 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.400 a long hallway, but it'll be a room on this side, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.840 then the room here, then a kitchen in the room here. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.640 Then So my grandmother had one of those apartments, right, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.440 And when I was born, I was living in my 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.560 grandmam's crib. She from down South, had eleven kids, so 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:15.120 the house was very busy, but I'm a virgo, so 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.279 my memory bank is incredible. Like I can remember things 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.080 that I probably shouldn't remember and I didn't even try 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.600 to remember. But the woodpanel wallshit, it's stuck out, you 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:27.919 know what I'm saying, Like rest in peace to my 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.080 grandmom's too. Yeah, they got him trailed in my uncle's trailer. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.440 It's like wood, but it's not real wood. Is that 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.320 what used to be on side of the station wagons too? Yeah? 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.560 I think so, you know Grizzwall Ride Wile World. Yeah, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.840 it's something like that, like threes think like Three's Company, Like, 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.200 you know, you got to look panels all and my 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.000 Grandmam's crib was all like that. So when I went 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.840 to do this project, kind of like what we was 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.279 talking about the other day, I've come from an era 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:02.680 of the radio record the street single to this record, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.000 you know what I'm saying. So this was the first 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.560 time I was like, man, fuck all that, let me 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:10.040 just record. Let me record a story, you know what 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.799 I'm saying. I got so many stories, so many memories. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.320 Let me just record some ship that I could paint 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.160 a picture from track one to track whatever's going to 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.279 be the last one, no radio records. It ain't no 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.120 party shit, no strip club shit. It ain't really too 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.919 much with a bounce. But if you listen to it 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.000 from beginning to end, it's a good story. Now I 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.200 first knew of you from your battle and days. Yeah, 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.200 way back in the day. It's a long time now 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.800 we're getting we get in the years agoing like I 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.960 didn't even know you. Just battled the nets again recently 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.760 because I remember the original Yeah shouted shouting nets. You 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.120 know that was an RB situation. He was in the band, right, Yeah, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.280 he was in the band, And this is a big 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.280 thing people don't hate. He was the only one that 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.880 was dope in there. I think people I think I 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.159 think people think I was trying to be a part 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.880 of the band. Like I never was auditioning for the band. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.600 I was never trying to be in the band. It 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.320 was just like did he call me and nit a 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.240 battle nest? That's really all it was. I wasn't that 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.840 was probably like was that like the first like like 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.000 your biggest look at the time was to do at 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.800 that time, that might have been my biggest look. I 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.480 was still doing like street, But I don't know if 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.000 I had no No No out yet. I don't think 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.479 I had I don't know if I had the Warner 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.599 Brothers deal yet. I think I was still doing like 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.960 battling mixtape type shit. But yeah, I mean coming. I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.800 mean obviously, you go from the Battle world where you're 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:29.320 like a legend, and then you had the No No 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.840 No record. I remember having that right now final yeah yeah. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.799 But then there's like a whole other wave of people 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.080 who just know you from being from Young Money. So 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.760 you and Wayne and the Young Money situation, Uh, how 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.839 like when did that start and how did it initially 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.560 happen because at the time, it was what just you 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.320 and Nikki. They were from the East Coast from New York. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.359 It was me and Nicky. But he was fucking with 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.440 Cory Guns too shot Oh yeah yeahyah. Well, I mean 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.000 I don't know if Guns was I don't know if 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.800 Guns I don't think he ever signed officially, but I 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.360 don't know if he was signed or whatever yet. But 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.840 I remember he had the Millie remix Yah, and he 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.440 was fucking with guns. I feel like he was on 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.960 the original Yeah yeah, yeah. Guns might have been around 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.359 Young Money before me. Guns and NICKI might have been 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.520 around Young Money before me, but nothing was really solidified. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.680 Nicky was definitely around around, but me and Guns was 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.040 kind of like Wayne just fucked with us. He just 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.400 liked that rapping type shit. But yeah, that was that 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.440 was that situation. I think around the time I started 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.119 fucking with Wayne might have been like two thousand and seven. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.040 I want to say like two thousand and seven because 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.280 this is the situation with me and Wayne. I'm explaining this. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.240 I had a song called how Had a Player? And 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:39.920 I don't know if people knew or not, but I 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.800 wasn't signed to Universal no more. This is like when 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:49.240 Sylvia Ron came over and everything changed, like and you know, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.440 like I said, I'm from the radio era. I'm from 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.120 that era of the single and all of this shit. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.680 So I'm trying to just keep my record going because 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.800 I know I don't got no deal no more. So 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:02.080 I'm doing shit like this is it six. I'm doing 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:08.560 shit like recording myself, taking the curses out and texting 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.680 DJ Enough or DJ Camillo or k Slade like or 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.720 flex like y'all got this new record? Now? This is 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:21.000 usually coming from a department. Now, it's like you're sending 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.280 me a shit directly. Well, all right, cool, we fuck 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.040 with you, So yeah, just send it. And now I 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.640 started getting radio play, and I'm like, damn, I'm noticing. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.560 I'm getting play like mixed show played twice a day. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.280 You might get the rush hour play. You might get 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.280 the traffic hour, traffic jam play, seven o'clock play. You know, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.880 later on somebody else come on to twelve. I might 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.520 have heard my shit four or five times today. I 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.080 don't got no deal with my mom's crib real shit. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.120 And I'm like, I can't go on to another record. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.240 I'm smart enough to know that I cannot go on 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.280 to another record. I got son going right now. So 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:02.600 I hit Wayne right like, uh, I got this record. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.520 You know what I'm saying. It's bubbling in New York 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:05.679 right now. If you want to jump on, and I 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.040 sent it to you. I'm really just taking a shot 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.040 in the dark. I don't I don't know if he 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.040 gonna get on this shit or not. But I had 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.280 a record called Bring It Back with Jada Kiss, and 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:19.760 then I did a remix with Wayne and Fab. Wayne said, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.240 come to the studio. I shot the Fab shot the kiss. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.320 You know what I'm saying. Granted, they was they busy 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:29.160 but Wayne told me come to the studio and did 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.480 it that night and then charged me nothing. This is 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.560 when he doing like three hundred records in it. So 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.000 in my mind, I'm like, I'm just taking shit. I'm 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.640 shooting from half court in a dark gym on all 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.439 of these moves right now. I don't know what's gonna happen. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.360 Send him the record. He send the record back next day. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.680 So my brother is like the super little Wayne fan 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.480 at this time. He like, BROH heard that verse before. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:55.920 I'm like, no, he just did this verse with me 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.200 last night. He said, not, bro I heard that verse before. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:59.959 IM gonna be real like he ain't want to say 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.920 like that, but he's like he pulled the verse up, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.800 all sorts of egg all on my face now. So 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.200 now I'm faced with the decision. Do I act like 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.400 I do not know that this man said this verse 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.760 already and still put this song out, or can I 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.000 just hit him and just be like, yo, I appreciate it, 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.600 but I can't put this out, you know, blah blah. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.240 And he was like, oh my fht blah blah blah blah. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.120 Next day, sent me another verse back and said some 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.920 shit in the junk like Miles had to tell me 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.640 stop recycling verses, and since I don't write it, I 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.880 recited in cursive. I was like, oh, that's personalized for me. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.120 That ain't like he just gave me a verse from 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.720 some a dedication mixtape that didn't come out right. So 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.120 now I'm like, oh, that shot you took in the 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.080 dark gym, you hit the rim on that shit like 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.840 you might could stand in this dark gym a little more, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.440 but just try to get closer to where you hit 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.320 the rim at. So now I'm like, yo, look man, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.439 I ain't got no situation. I know you're doing the 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:53.800 young money shit. You know what I'm saying. If I 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.679 coul come play some music, he said, you don't got 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.920 no deal? Coury right back. So I'm like, oh, I'm 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.080 done on that verse like that versus a dub. He's not. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.320 I don't got no budget. I don't he knows now 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.880 I don't have money to give him for the verse. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.839 He caught me back with Taz on the phone. He's like, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.920 when can you get on a flight? He said, but 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.400 tell me this again. You said you don't got no vert, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.400 no deal, right, I said, nah? He said, well when 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.719 can you get on a flight to Miami. Now I'm 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.959 in Harlem. I'm like, I get on a flight yesterday. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.160 He started laughing. After that flight, I was young money 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.360 until I wasn't young money no more. Yeah, I mean 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.440 so that was six. That was like, oh that's around 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.200 six o seven. It was around. It was right before 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.160 you know how reason three was right before the car three. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.199 When I got around. I remember the first time out. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.520 He flew me out. After that conversation, I went to 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.880 the Hit Factory and when he walked in, he started 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.560 just playing me a bunch of music and shit, and 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.400 I remember he played Lollipop. I'll never forget this shit. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.840 This is when I was like, oh yeah, I gotta 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.200 step my shit up a whole lot like that. I'm 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.520 a nice rapper, it's a huge I was like, I'm 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.440 a good rapper. He's a great artist. And I have 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.600 no problem at all. I have no problem with saying 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.959 that because Wayne is my man. I love Wayne unconditionally. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.040 He showed me shit that no other friend showed me. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.760 No of a homie, no of a businessman, of a ceo, 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.280 no of a rapper. He showed me. And it was 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.280 hard on me with that ship too. But I learned 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.600 a lot, so I'm like, I'm like, damn, what the 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.520 fuck is this? But it sounded like the T Pain. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.800 T Pain was killing everything at this time. But now 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:33.240 I'm I know Wayne from Dad, and now it's like 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.080 I'm like, I'm like, damn, how he do that shit? 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.680 Like now he playing me a bunch of shit? He 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.560 played me got money. Now I had had to beat 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.400 for got money from playing skills or they had played 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.360 me like, you know, beat that gaming to beat, so 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.360 I knew. I was like, oh I heard this ship before, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.719 all right, let me just sit here and listen to 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.000 his version. I was like, oh shit, he got T 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.160 pain on it. That's what that's the plan that they played. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.920 When they played me the song like oh he I 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.800 was like, woy, I wouldn't have not made this song 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.880 like this, right, Glad they didn't get a ship to me, Like, 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.880 I'm so glad they didn't waste this record with me 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.240 because I wouldn't have never made this this, you know 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.720 what I'm saying. So Carter three wasn't out yet. He 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.680 was still doing like college arenas and ship like that. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.160 It wasn't like the I Am music. It was still 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.040 like and then like a lot of the Carter three leaked, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.600 he was still performing a lot of the leak shit. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.040 He was still performing. Were you around when the music 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.880 leaker had that already been leaked. I was starting to 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.480 come around. I was still like just doing my like 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.199 I wasn't on Universe, And I just remember like being 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.600 at because I used to slang shit at the swap meet. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.199 They're talking my name, So I remember just having to 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:41.800 every little Wayne tape. There was like Carter three fucking leaks, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.400 the drought, the droughts, and then it was like, I 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.600 mean obviously before that the squad up shit, but like 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.080 that that like era, like right before Carter three, like 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.120 the like twelve months prior, when he was just heating 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.120 up the mixtape shit. It was like that's what really 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.000 got Wayne hot up top. I mean he was already 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.959 hot since he was fucking thirteen fourteen, but I mean 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.560 like reinventing himself from being like a little wheezy to 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.439 like the fire man. Well, no one took little Wayne 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.040 like serious. No, he had to start saying, I'm the 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.640 best rapper alive since the best rapper retired, because he 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.920 had to start had to make that statement. And then 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.880 he just started. And then I remember he performed on 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.240 the BT Awards. He performed gossip. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.520 stop hating on a nigga that no remember that moment. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.920 No hype man on like an EP. It wasn't even 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.280 on his It was a leak. It was a leak. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.520 It was a leak. Like you didn't like Wayne once 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.120 I got around him, That's what made me realize, Oh 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:37.880 I remember that. I was like, oh, this is the 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.440 first single for Carter three, and then nah, he didn't 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.320 get he was one of them type people when songs 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:46.280 leaked him. He like like he called those dead homies 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.480 he was. I mean, yet what he did with uh? 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.240 Because you know, being the youngest dude in Cash Money, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.600 I feel like as a rapper, there wasn't a lot 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.960 of people who with credibility that probably took him serious 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.760 until the first Carter when he started popping his shit. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.320 That's that's around the time because five hundred degrees was whatever. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.080 I mean, I think the block is Hot was dope. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.760 I think if you really were a Cash Money fan, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.480 you knew little Wayne crap. Yeah, But like people like 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.480 like you said, like once that first Carter came out, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.600 I remember working a best buy man when that shit dropped. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.440 That shit was I remember the first time I heard 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.720 being U being Junior. Mm hmm, is that the puttest 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.400 feeding the blades. I ain't tripping nigga. I played the 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.280 corner like ripkin Nigga with the forty. I was like, yeah, 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.600 he in a different world. But Carter two was was 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.800 when because by this time I'm deep in rap. I'm deep. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.920 I'm an artist. I didn't have my ups, my downs, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.000 and my high points my low points. I read credits, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.080 I read magazines. I want to know people that go 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.080 to school late. But I'm walking in the lunch room 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.920 with the Source magazine, the Double Excel, the Blaze. I 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.720 might have the vibe that might Blaze magazine. Yeah, I 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.160 might have had fucking the free styles of people. Get 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.400 your tape decks ready last night on DJ Clue the 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.240 fucking fire Truck. I was that type of kid. So 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.360 when I heard Carter too, like, oh ship, this is 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.200 the first time I heard of Wayne album with no 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.720 many fresh production and it was dope. Now I get 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.680 to hear him compare to everybody else. Now, now damn 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.120 me rapping over the heat makers. Who the fuck are 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.800 the runners. Who you know what I'm saying. So around 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.520 that time I got with Wayne, that shit showed me 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.680 a lot. It was to bring it back full circle. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.400 It was around that time, right before Carter three. That's 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.560 around the time I got with Young Money. Help me understand. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:33.280 Uh okay, so Young Money mm hmm. There's obviously the 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.720 product of Young Money is two of the biggest artists 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.600 of all time, Drake and Nikki. But there was all 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.760 these other rappers, so many let's talk about it. There 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.280 was you, there was Gotta Gotta I mean, you know, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.240 Macmaine was the President, but you know it was a 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.320 rapper for Shout Shout the Mac. Surprise, Mac never got 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.040 a solo album off the President. You wanted some funny shit. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.960 When I first came around Young Money, I remember Mac 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.600 was telling me then like I want to be on 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.080 some balls ship this rapper, like he was tired of it. Then, Hey, 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.280 I'm looking at it, like, bro, you I used to 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.679 I used to send him so much ship let's get 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.720 on his beat. Let's because I was I'm a fan 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.600 of Mac Man, I'm a fan of the Squad, I'm 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.320 a fan of Win. So I wanted to just do 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.359 all Sorts Hill with everybody. And then I was the 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.800 person that used to when Wayne would fly me out, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.280 I would bring my inbox and my computer and my 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.800 my m audio speakers in the hotel room that he 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.960 has me or would never go to the bus where 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.720 he's at. I would just be in the room just recording. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.000 And I remember one day I think gut or Twist 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.440 told him He's like, what mails And He's like, he 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:41.960 upstairs recording? What are you doing? You're recording hisself? Promise you. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.960 The next day I came downstairs on Wayne's tour bus. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.560 He had all that ship learned how to record itself. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.960 Oh wow, quick quick, Uh but no, but we're talking 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.280 like a vast amount of artists, like you just said, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:18:03.679 Little Twist sew piercing right me guns Maneople, and it 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:09.200 seems Tiger Tiger, Nikki Drake. It just seemed like, uh, 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.639 being on young money could more too, that's the crazy 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.520 put a lot more. But it could be perceived to 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.960 be a gift in a curse. T Streets shot my 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.679 man T Streets, T Streets, But like, what why do 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.439 you think? Uh? It didn't work out for everybody, And 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.560 by everybody, I mean the majority of the artists on 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.560 the label. I tell people this all the time. It 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.600 never works out for everybody. Once you understand that, It's like, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.439 and I'm looking at this picture of Charles Barkley right now, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.639 and it's taking me somewhere right. I want to explain 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.480 people something. There was a lot of great people on 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.600 the Sixers when Barkley came, a lot of great people 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.520 uh on the Lakers when Kobe came. I always tell 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.720 I always tell people, I know what it feels like 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.480 to be Eddie Joe. I know what it feels like 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.960 to be Eddie Jones. Not saying that I'm not nice, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.199 I'm not great, but I know what it was like 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:13.400 to be great. And somebody comes around and they are undeniable. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.480 You can go in the studio and make the dopest 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.840 shit you want. Aubrey is undeniable. I remember the first 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.800 time Wayne let me hear successful, I was like, WHOA, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.240 this shit is dope. The next time I heard it, 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.280 Wayne had a different verse. Said why you got a 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:27.840 different verse? So I sent it to Drake and he 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.560 said he didn't really he liked the verse, but he 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.920 didn't really think it went with the concept of the song. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.919 I said, he made you do a verse over damn, 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.439 you know what I'm saying. But it showed me to 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.639 respect Wayne had for him because he did the same 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.679 thing for me. He did the same thing for me. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.000 Did it over? I respect you? You know what You're right, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.879 you know what I'm saying. So that just brings me 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.840 back to the whole. It was a lot of artists 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.200 would happened. It was a lot of artists on cash money. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:57.760 It was a lot of artists on no limits, a 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.600 lot of artists on death roll. But I remember Snoop 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:05.040 Pot and the Dog Pound, not saying Lady of Rage 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.040 or jewell or or crook or or you know what 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.920 I'm say. It's not to say that they wasn't great. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.720 Was a part of it after like the dark years 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.600 of death throw. It's not to say that they wasn't great. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:21.760 But Nikki was undeniable, Drake was undeniable out of let's say, 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.919 if it was ten of us, because it was all 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.000 it was like ten, ten, eleven of us. It was 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:32.320 a lot to hit with three the way that you hit. Now. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.120 Some people might say, males, you being a little too 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.199 cordial about that, my nigga, because you wasn't one of 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.680 those three. It's how it works sometimes, keep it moving, 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.760 figure it out. That wasn't my first stop on the train. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.439 It's not gonna be my last. I came there with 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.359 Dil's already. A lot of people came there that was 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.760 their first time, that was their first rodeo. You know 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.600 what I'm saying. I didn't fell off the horse, did 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.800 all of this shit already, so this isn't new to me. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:59.840 I know that this shit ain't gonna last forever. And 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.040 I feel like a lot of people they thought it 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.720 was gonna last forever. I think with Tiger, he had 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.600 been around, he had been with gym class heroes. He 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.640 had poking up milk. He had understood how to make 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.600 this ship work. Drake had already been comeback season. I 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.560 would almost argue that that Tiger popped despite little Wayne. 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:20.280 He did Wayne it tune, I Love you, I Love 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:24.760 you tune? All right, Tiger will tell you this. Wayne 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.840 didn't like that direction that Tiger was going in, like 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.560 make it nasty, rack city, bitch, better have my money 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.639 dancing for them dollars? Uh? What was the joint? He 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.480 had asked? So fat and neither lapped in Wayne wasn't 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.840 feeling that because you gotta understand that's not the vision 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:44.080 Wayne saw for him when he first met him. You Tiger, Tiger, 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.320 you like your bouncy flow like kind of like so 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.399 and sos of mischief type shit. You different You like 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.359 a real West Coast lyrical crafty with your words. And 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.840 now you going strip club or me, they don't even 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.000 really have strip clubs where you act like that, like 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:02.919 where it is coming from. It was kind of like 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.080 when I used to first got around Young Money. You 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.280 listen to Dedication three, my bars was like on top 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.560 of each other, on top of each other. Even anytime 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.080 I did mixtapes for Young Money, my bars was on 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.280 top of each other like that. And that's because Wayne 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.880 taught me how to differentiate it. She ain't got a man, 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:25.640 but she's not alone misindependent. Yeah, she got her own. Hey, 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:29.200 I hated that verse. That was the end of my verse. 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:31.760 Wayne said, naw, you know what, I think you should 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.560 start the verse off like that, because that's more like 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.600 that's a memorable and I'm just like, I don't care. 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.520 I was more until I got a bitch Nakekeisha from 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.439 around the way. She used to go to college school 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.879 back and the day he was like, oh shit, that's dope. 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.280 That's why he just wanted me to talk crazy all 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.480 day because in his mind his vision for me was 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.480 they already know you for talking crazy. You said big 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.560 in my trouble or what da da dah, and I 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.240 put a gun in your feet. We love you for that, 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.720 So you get a pass to do that, because Little 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.520 Chucky and Little Twist can't do that. They not known 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.440 for that. They gotta be kids still, you know what 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.240 I'm saying. So he had visions for all of us. 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.159 He never really wanted all of us to be like 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.960 signed to Young Money. He wanted us to be Young 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:16.920 Money a group and we do some Wu tang shit 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.640 and all get deals. I know, this sounds like crazy, 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.200 This sounds like yeah right, Mills he did. He never 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.919 really wanted us all to be signed to him. He 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.240 wanted to give us a platform and we go rep 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.199 Young Money and get deals and bags everywhere. But we 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.359 still like this fucking conglomerate on some shit. Because in 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.720 his mind, the Hot Boys was all solo artists. True, 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.400 so like they if Birdman could put me in the studio, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.200 beg and juvenile. I don't want to hear y'all say 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:47.760 nothing about me putting y'all in the studio with a 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:51.040 little Chucky and Little Twists. Yeah, I mean, go Chucky, 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.600 little Twist, God bless him. Look, there was some times 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.280 that we drop off. There were some times that we 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.040 was like, tune check this out. Bro. We love you, man, 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.480 we love you, but come on, man, it's five forty 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.320 five am. Man, it's beeping looping for We don't really 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.080 want to do this. But but I knew that a 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.159 lot of to see me. I knew a lot of 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:11.639 the shit that Wayne used to do to us was 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.880 a test. It was like boot camp. It's a lot 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.119 of y'all. I need to see who really wanted you 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:17.840 know what I'm saying. I need to see who gonna 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.800 go hard? Like it ain't really about who nice. You 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.240 could be dead nice, but you might be lazy. Was 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.639 there ever? Like there's hell of rumors of internal issues 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:33.920 with people in Young Money. I mean, uh, you said 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.040 Chucky and Twist didn't get along. It was internal issues everywhere, 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:42.359 but not like not like not like beef, Like Me 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:46.480 and Twist had they thing because they was like they 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.440 were kids. It was like the kid who's the who's 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.000 the young money young and who's the prince of young money? 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:56.040 And then Chanelle and Nikki they never had a thing, 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.560 but to me it felt like it because it's like, well, 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.840 who's the lady of young Money. Yeah, I mean that 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.879 was pretty evident, not in the beginning, Not in the 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.679 beginning when we all used to have to do group 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.000 photo shoots and shit like that. You gotta remember, Nikki 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.480 was coming from Come Up DVD. Chanelle was coming from 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:20.640 being a songwriter and a dancer for Neo. Two different things, 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:25.680 totally different at that time. I'm talking about ten years ago, 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.160 you know what I'm saying. It was a different thing. 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:31.520 Like Drake wasn't what he is now. He was like 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.960 coming from the grass Sea. He was more known for 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.240 the grassy than people respected him as a rapper. It 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.840 took a very long time for people to respect Drake 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.760 as a rapper. But I think it was so much 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.240 music we was in that digital era that once you 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.399 got so far gone, you was like he alright, no, 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.320 he was fucking incredible, but you just didn't want to 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.760 say he was incredible, because it's like, damn, Wayne's still incredible. 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.760 Then after I was like well, who's more incredible. Then 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.240 after a while it's like, damn, Nikki kind of high too, 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.280 and then you kind of for Tiger. I feel like 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.879 Tiger was the first one to get lost in it. 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:08.560 When I seen Tiger get lost in it, I said, 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.600 it's bad for me. Mmm, that's real shit. I'm gonna 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.120 keep it a buck. I said, it's bad for me 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:20.960 because Tiger had a setup, right, yeah. I don't know 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.760 if that time he was managed by Jay Irvin. I 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.560 don't know. T don't don't don't kill me for this. 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.520 I don't really know the specifics of it, but I remember, 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.000 I remember me and Gutter used to talk a lot. 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.159 Me and GUTTI start, I talked, spoke the gutta gut 0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:35.840 over the shout, the Gutter shout to the whole young 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:43.239 Money period. Me and Gutter used to talk a lot 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.399 right about just the way shit was going. Because Guttter 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.600 used to he was around before me, and when I 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.280 first got the young money, Wayne told me, if you 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.359 want to know how to stay around me, like how 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.040 to if you really want to know me, stick to him? 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:00.720 He told me. I remember when I first came around, 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.040 he was like He's like he knows me. You know 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.240 what I'm saying. If you if you want to know me, 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.080 you want to know how not to get on my 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.640 bad side, how not to you know what I'm saying, 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.119 How to move around me? Stick to him? You know 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:13.760 what I'm saying. And to this day, I still talk 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.000 to Gutt to Gutter. You know what I'm saying. He's 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.119 not on your money anymore. He's so young money, so 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.280 young money. They gotta they gotta rec it out right now. 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.920 I think it's Wayne Gutter and Hood called NFL. It's 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.159 for like the prime video for Thursday Night Football. It's 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:31.040 like the song for some dope shit, but basically bring 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:34.479 it to bring it back. Gut. It was like, how 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.639 you think this shit gonna go for US malls? And 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.439 I was like, it's a chain. I was like, at 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.040 the end of the day, Drake is undeniable, Nicki undeniable. 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.479 We don't know who gonna come first out of them. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.880 And then Wayne went to jail in the midst of them, 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:51.880 being like like yeah, So by the time he came 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.399 out of jail, Nicky was pink Wig, Marg Simpson. It 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.080 was like, you know, and Drake was Aston Martin music 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.320 and he was he was. He was. They was coming 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.440 into their own and then I remember six foot seven, 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.800 and then Wayne was right back to being Wayne, and 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.920 then it was like damn. Now it's like Big three. 0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.359 But Tiger, me and Gutter used to always be like, damn, 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.480 Tiger putting in work. I would come out here to 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.560 Cali to see my lady and had kid on the 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.080 way at that time, and I'd be like, Tiger, keep 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.040 a song on the radio. Now maybe we in Miami 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.960 or New York, we might not hear that ship like that. 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.720 But when I used to come here before I moved here, 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.280 and I moved here in twenty fifteen, so this is 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.040 like eleven, twelve, thirteen, whatever. Yeah, I call his Molly 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.240 mal Era. When he was in Vegas for MA, he 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.800 was hitting he shit called strip hop going up, and 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.160 there was I think that's where a lot of the 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.400 he was. He was hitting, and he was like branding 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.720 himself in that lane of like bop that DJ muzzle 0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.880 on that he would bring himself City Low kids the 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.960 record that really blew. Didn't feel like they was like 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.160 it felt like he was forcing their hand, like you 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.600 got it now you And I felt like, damn if 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.400 he gotta force they hand. You know what I'm saying. 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.040 I'm like, I gotta figure some shit out, you know 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.920 what I'm saying, And I was throwing shit. I'm trying 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:13.640 to figure shit out. But you gotta remember in the 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:19.480 midst of that, Wayne is Wayne, Drake is Drake, and 0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:24.200 he's only coming bigger. Nicky is Nicki, and the Barbie 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.800 is only becoming bigger. So now we gotta sustain this. 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.680 We gotta sustain Wayne, Nicki, Drake, Tiger's doing this thing, 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:37.120 but they're keeping the lights on. Nicky and Drake kept 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.160 the lights on when Wayne went the Rikers, Allen keeping 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.480 it a buck. So now all right, now we're touring, 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.120 all right, Well, how do we do the tours? Now? 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.120 Who's gonna open, who's gonna close? Oh, he's not going 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.600 out with us, he's going out on his own. Or 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.920 she's doing her own tour she's taking. So now I'm 0:29:55.960 --> 0:30:02.880 peeping like this one I realized this ship is really 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.080 really different, and it happened fast. I remember Drake did 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.280 Club Paradise. That was the name of Drake. I was hot. 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.400 What were you about? I loved Drake, but I was hot. 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.239 I think me and I think me and Gutta gut 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.920 It might have been I don't know if gut It 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.920 was too hot, but I was hot, and I think 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.600 I was hot because I was thinking something was gonna 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.920 go a certain way, Like did you think you were 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.960 supposed to be on the tour? Yes, I will completely. 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.160 I was every that was big, that was basically everybody 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.680 that was doing the same thing that we were doing 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.360 at that time that wasn't with Young Money. I remember that. 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.840 I remember, and I loved Drake. I ain't gonna lie. 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.400 I loved Drake with all my heart. Man. I love Nikki, 0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.960 I love Tiger, Wayne Gutta, mac Maine, Twist, I love 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.800 all the everybody that was a part of that ride 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.240 who were young Money whoever. We still because me and 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.880 Tiger not young money no more. But I I'm not 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.120 covering my young Money tattoo, like I still sign my 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.520 checks and you still see it. Because that was a 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:07.720 decade of my life. That was a that was like 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.240 a real period of my life. But there were a 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.040 lot of times that in that period I started to see, oh, 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:20.440 we're label mates, we homies, but we're label mates, and 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.600 you can't you can't forget that because you didn't grow 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.520 up with these people. You met these people on some 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:34.200 business shit, so people people get traded. At this time, 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.880 we still got the same uniform on. So I'm looking 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.840 at it like, damn, I would have thought we could 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.920 at least open up. You know what I'm saying, like 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.680 thro take us out there like Tune took you or 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.840 or Nikki too. You know what I'm saying, like, take 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.920 us out there like you took dadg Loaf or this 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.680 one and this one. Even if we not hot, like that, 0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.000 make us hot. Somebody made you hot now once again, 0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.440 to be fair, to be fair, this is just me 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.160 and my feeling here at that time as a younger artist. 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.040 I'm in my feelings because I'm like, yo, we crewe 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.400 we We didn't both had to go chase the tour 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.040 people around for pudem before. Like did you communicate that 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.040 to Drake or did Drake ever like know that you 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:23.240 you were? Once again, what I'm saying is, at that time, 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.560 we were in our feelings about shit. I'm saying might 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.760 have been in his feelings about shit with us that 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:30.680 we don't know about. You know, he might have been 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.800 in his feelings with about Wayne or Tesz or you 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.000 know what I'm saying. It was times that Wayne might 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.760 have been in his feelings with some shit about tests 0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.000 and Drake might have paid for it, you know what 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.840 I'm saying, Like it might have been some times that 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:46.760 Wayne wasn't He just wasn't fucking with New York. And 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.600 when I walk in the room, it's just like fucking 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.720 old New York ass nigga nothing. It's not like the 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:54.720 end of the world. It's not in person, but you 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.240 gotta think when you around people. As long as we 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.360 was around each other, young money, shit was a long ride. 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.920 That shit wasn't like no two three year you hot 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.840 and then you hear it's like nah, we all went 0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.640 from one bus. We was all on Wayne bus to 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.320 now it's Wayne Buss and an artist bus. Now we're 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.840 all on the artist bus. To now it's Wayne Buster, 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.040 artist bus, Drake Bus, Nikki Bust, the band bust, the 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.640 dancers bus, the chef bust, the crew. Like that shit changed. 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.640 I went from doing clubs to performing in front of 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.760 When I say Jay, you say males, Jay, Jay, where 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.800 you at Milsey? And then my shit come on and 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.800 I'm like, damn, I never heard people scream for me 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.040 like that. So it was a hell of a ride. 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.960 But in along that ride, you did learn shit. You 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.760 know what I'm saying. You did learn that, Yo, Drake, 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:48.040 don't gotta do nothing for you nothing. Now, once I 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.719 got that through my head, I was cool. It's like, yo, 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.600 I don't know, I'm not tripping. If he come out 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.960 with six or seven albums and I'm not on none 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.600 of them, I could still find the dopeness in the 0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.480 fucking album. It's like, it's cool, bro, It's not the 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:06.160 end of the world if somebody don't pull you along, 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.239 like especially if you never told me you was gonna 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.440 pull me along and it's all in your head. You 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.400 know what I'm saying. Did you ever help Wayne with 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.040 any writing? Because and this is a thing too, I 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:18.799 want because there was like there's there's been a lot 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:21.040 of rumors about like Gilly used to write for him, 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.200 and well I wasn't around for that. Was I wasn't 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.640 around for the Gilly show. I mean, like you got 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.680 at like did he ever tap in with you for 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.680 some bars? I will say this, There's been many times 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.480 that we're in the studio and Wayne might be like, 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.480 y'all tell me what you think it is yo, okay 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.680 m m, but yeah, like that's what I got for 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.480 right now. But I feel like that's natural. That's like 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.680 any studio. I will go down stairs in the studio 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.239 with Wayne and be like, Yo, this I got. I 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.520 got like twelve, but I don't know if how she 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.239 does sixteen or twelve, but this is what I got. 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.680 I wanted to say this next, but I don't know 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.560 how that ship sound like what you say that. But 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.759 if you flip it this way and just say it 0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:04.600 like this, so that mean Wayne wrote for me. Now, 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.200 that's just because I watched Kanye West go in the 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:12.640 studio Kanye. I watched Kanye play Lucifer for jay Z 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.520 and say I'm from the murder Capital where we murder 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.279 for capitals. If you don't use this, I'm gonna use 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.480 this for my album. And then jay Z got on 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.200 there and said I gotta get these devils out my 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.719 life and then cut it off and said, oh my, 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.600 oh god, I never read the Bible. Damn my life. 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.960 On Faith the Black, he says that I watched Kanye 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.080 go in there and give him Lucifer and say I'm 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.560 from the murder Capitol where they murder for capitals. Jay 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.800 Z was not from the Murder Capital Kanye West was. 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.839 But we will never say Kanye West wrote for jay Z. True. 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:49.239 We will never, even with clear fucking footage of it 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.719 in Fade the Black, we will never say Kanye West 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.800 wrote for jay Z. Well, why do you think the 0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.759 Drake thing was recepted so differently? I think I think 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:03.320 personally it was because we heard the references. Yeah, and 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.399 that's kind of like, Oh, I think with Wayne too, 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:10.920 it was big because I think it only comes so 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:13.839 heavy like that when it's somebody you respect. So when 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.040 Gilly said this shit about Wayne, it was like, Nah, 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.279 Wayne been nice since he was thirteen. He didn't even 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.320 know you didn't, so how you saying you wrote? And 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:21.880 I don't think he was saying it like that. I 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.439 think he was just saying there was a time where 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.120 I was influencing the way that he rapped. Now. I 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:32.040 could understand that because we younger than Gilly. So I 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.080 was a major Figures fan too. I was on Dutch 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.279 and Spade too. I was on all that shit, Like 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.640 I bought Major Figures. I bought the album. You know 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.960 what I'm saying. I understood Gilly was with Suave House 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.200 and Tony Draper and ab Liva before he got was 0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.239 I was a fan, I not was m still as 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.080 a fan with major figures, I'll still say they was 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.759 dead nice. So I can understand where Gilly's influence. He 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.400 could say like I influenced the all that swag raping 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.919 the dragon, the words, but I don't like you wrote 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.720 like wrote for him once again, I can't say he didn't, 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.839 but I could see what he could say he influenced him. 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.680 But Wayne is so like articulate with the way he 0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:15.520 put his ship together. He he wants to put it together, 0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:16.840 you know what I'm saying. He wants the craft in 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.680 and put it together. Now you can help him. You 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.440 could tell him, Nah, I don't think you should say it. 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.279 You should say it this way. But if I was 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.560 in here recording something, you might tell me that. Yo, Jay, 0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.160 I think you that shit might have been crazy if 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.160 you would have said, oh shit, you know what, keV, 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.920 You're right, let's do it over. You know what I'm saying. 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.840 I think like you said with the Drake shit, we 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.759 heard the references. Yeah, the Drake thing. When you heard 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.000 the references, and it's like that was supposed to be 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.880 the go that was a little crazy, supposed to be 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.919 one of the greatest of all time. It's the same 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.320 that was a little crazy. But that's different than what 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.600 we're talking about. What we're talking about is, hey, we're 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.640 in the studio, let me help you with with the 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.040 with the Drake joint. Was it like the same verse 0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.200 and all of that, or was the same like melody 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.440 of words and he changed some of the worlds. It 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.799 was the same shit. It was the same hook, same verse, 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.400 the same shit. Quentin Miller Man, No, I know he 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.960 did it, But I do also think listen to think 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.640 that Drake is incredible with his pen as an ignorant 0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.320 thought to have. I think Drake is like one of 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.480 the best artists ever. Of course, I think, of course, 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.640 if we're having that discussion, like in life, everybody included. 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.040 So I just think that if you're Drake, you're probably 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.480 so fucking busy, Like he's probably torn doing all kinds 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.759 of shit and people are sending references and he might 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.440 just be like, yeah, that shits hot, Like let me Like, 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.759 I personally don't rappers do that all the time, man, 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.919 I know they do. It's just it was him. It's 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.680 Drake that the references came out on because once again, 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.560 I will always go back to this, like Fade the 0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:49.399 Black with Kanye West and jay Z. Nobody will ever 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.839 say Kanye West wrote for jay Z, but they'll turn 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.759 around and say somebody wrote for Kanye, but they won't 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:57.919 give him that same respect and be like he took 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.000 a song into jay Z's session, said this is the 0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:04.239 hook and if you don't use this, I'm gonna use 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.600 it on my album. And if you go pull up 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:11.719 the Black album, he word for words said yah shit 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.040 that Ya brought him in the studio and we overlooked it. 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.279 We overlooked it because Drake ain't jay Z at that time. 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.959 But Drake is up there man now. At that time, 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.239 we were still talking about oh, he wrapped on the 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.160 BlackBerry on Flex. Yeah, And it was only because you've 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.520 seen him with the BlackBerry. I know a million rappers 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.279 that went up to funk Master Flex show and their 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.759 phone is on the speaker, but you can't see it. 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.480 People come to our show all the time. Don't tell 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.920 me this, Let's just go to Sun else. Don't tell 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.800 me this. I've had artists have their lyrics on my 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.239 laptop in front of them and the laptops off. Are 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.880 you doing this? Man? But to be fair, because you 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.719 know it's funny because they're gonna know exactly who you're 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.759 talking about when this no no, no, Like one of 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.400 my boys, I'm cool listening. One of the homies. I'm 0:39:58.400 --> 0:39:59.920 not gonna say his name, really close close friend of 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.680 he wrote the ship like when he got to the stage. 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.160 That's different. So that is different, that's different. But no, 0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.040 he wrote it on the spot, that's dope. He literally 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.360 was like, yo, throwing a beat and then he was like, 0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.319 give me like twenty minutes and I'll have something now 0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.239 that's dope. And then he and then he was like, yeah, 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.200 I got something written that's different. I can respect that. Yes, Now, 0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.760 there has been artists that have come in who literally 0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.080 put their phone on the thing. And then I got 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.840 to I'm like, because I'm like, I want a good freestyle. 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.520 So I'm out of camera and I'm literally with my 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:35.400 fingers scrolling down there. That shit happens. Yeah, But this 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:36.840 is one thing I do want to say about the 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:40.719 Young Money shit. I feel like the way the Young 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.520 Money shit played out for all of us, believe it 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.279 or not, believe it, or not. That was exactly how 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:51.439 I was supposed to play out. If I could say, Man, 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:55.560 Wayne fucked my shit up, that'd be different. I can't 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.879 say Wayne fucked my shit up. The good outwegh to bad. 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.080 He did more than he didn't do, you know what 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.000 I'm saying. So I might could say I ain't gonna 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.480 lie I was a little I was a little hot 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.920 behind Club Paradise. It might be the only thing that 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.759 I could say I was ever hot behind with Drake. 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.720 But I could name so much of a good ship, 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.720 you know what I'm saying. I could say, well, Nikki 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.200 never really like took me onto a nehba, same way 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.320 Drake didn't. She never really put me on nothing like 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.359 that neither, but stopped it stopped there. I can't say 0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.800 anything else. And it's and those things are me and 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.600 my feelings. That's artist ship, that's rapper ship. Thinking you. 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:37.480 I wouldn't say ego ship. I would say it's feeling like, uh, 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:44.680 what's the word, uh not prideful, feeling like you uhled 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:50.080 entitlement that and that that we crew. So I'm entitled 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:52.840 to first DIBs on something or what you did for 0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.399 that artist. You could have did that for me. We crew. 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.680 It's that that's that entitlement, you know what I'm saying, 0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.120 so and not saying that you partially shouldn't have that 0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.480 entitlement with your team, you know what I'm saying. But 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:05.879 some of it might have just been me thinking too much. 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.920 But once again, the good outwegh to bad with everybody. 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:13.680 So it's not like that's not changing. It's not like, oh, 0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.400 I don't follow that nigga, ain't like him. I don't care. 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.759 I don't care about she just had kids. Don't give 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.000 fuck if it's his son's birthday on kid. It's like, Bro, 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.120 that shit was It's not that Sari, It's not that deep. Okay, 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.920 So you're behind the scenes. I want to know because 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.439 pusha T Is one of my favorite rappers ever. Push 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.360 your T has been He was poking and prodding at 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.520 little Wayne for years ever since mister Me too, which 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.600 is for long. That's prior to you being with Young Money, 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:41.960 that sugar Push your T and Young Money or Wayne, shit, 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.160 that should go back way before me. Like I just 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.160 I just probably only entertained it because I was young 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.120 money at the time. Yeah, because you know what I'm saying, 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.399 it took Wayne. I want to say it was maybe 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.759 three or four years ago he finally said push his 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.120 name on a record or it was, I don't remember 0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.840 what he said. He's finally acknowledged push your ta officially, 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:04.279 and I was like wow, but like was that like 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:09.359 was that something that like like like was a known 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.560 issue in the crew, like, man, this fuck these guys 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.440 over here, Man, they're fucking disrespect now you know why? 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.480 Because Wayne be in his own little world, So Wayne 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:21.040 don't really listen, like he don't really be knowing what 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.440 be going on. It'd be like me or gutt or 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.480 like show him something. Yeah, a little twist would always 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.160 come in and show him some shit on the laptop 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.239 or or Twitter or Instagram. Here a big bro, look 0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.800 at this. So he would be so far into his 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.800 music he wouldn't really know about like the darts, but 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.040 when he find out about it, it'd be like a 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:40.839 word or pull that shit up, let me see that shit. 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.279 And then everybody, like all assistance and managers to be like, 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.000 oh god, males, why did you get them started? I 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:53.279 remember we was in the studio and Yay came to 0:43:53.360 --> 0:44:01.920 play him over this Atoven production. I don't know if 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:06.240 I even wanted to know his story, you gotta started. 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:11.880 But first time Wayne heard he heard him right, he 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:18.560 didn't feel that ship. Uh the damn what was the 0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.719 barn then? Man? I just remember the baby money you got, 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.560 baby money. That ain't my late something, my lady money. 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.920 That's baby money you got like it was some ship 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:31.600 like that. M Wayne walked out the room, song still playing, 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.080 like just went to go get like a cup of 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.439 water and ship like yeah. And I remember like two 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:45.279 days later he did a song. Was he Drake, Jada 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:49.959 Kiss and Wayne? Was that Carter three? Kidnap your bitch, 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.160 Kidnap your bitch, See how much you love your lady money? 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.960 That was Carter three? I think that was that was 0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.239 I think it was Drake. It might have been. It 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:00.879 might have been called A four. Carter Foy was Drake, 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.719 Jadakiss and Wayne. Because Washing the Throne came out in 0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:06.000 twenty eleven, it was four four apart, it was four. 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.600 I remember, I don't remember much from that album. It 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.600 wasn't good. This is when I liked Carter four. It 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.600 just wasn't Carter three. It just wasn't Carter three. Carter 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:19.080 four was fired it, Uh, I remember he was like, Yo, 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.640 y'all think that's too much, And everybody was like, nah, 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.120 I think you should take that ball out. Man, I 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:30.479 don't think you should really say that. Man, fuck that ship. 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.640 Say that shit. Everybody got mad at me. So when 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:34.680 he's like you know what, I was like, Yo, do 0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:39.520 you feel like he was talking about you? Not necessarily? 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.320 I was like, Bro, this's his words. It ain't like you. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.120 It ain't like if he was talking about you. He 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:49.720 said that it was j So at this point, nigga, 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.880 you you you you just sold a million records. Of 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.719 course first week, came home and you about to do 0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.560 it again. This is you you right now if you 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.520 feel this is just a battle rapper and at this time, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.360 but this is how much I fuck with Wayne. This 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.520 is this is what Wayne looks at me for. You 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.840 know what I'm saying. I'm like, do you feel like 0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:11.000 it was a shot? You? I'm like, nah, seriously, do 0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.160 you feel it was a shot? Because if you didn't 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:14.880 feel it was a shot, you wouldn't have thought of 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.040 the ball you thought of So you asking us for 0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.960 validation to go in there to go say what you feel? Now? 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.919 You know what you right? He went in there turn 0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:32.880 me up lighter, everybody looking at me. Yeah, because I 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:34.480 do feel like, why would you tell him to do that? 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.840 There was like this period of time where and I'm like, 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.879 why not, though, I'm like, at the end of the day, 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:42.560 it's words, it's a sport, it's rap. It's not like 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.879 he said I'm gonna kill you. You felt he said 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.799 something and you wanted to say something back. Do you rap? 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.120 Do you feel like that there was some contention growing 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.840 between Hove and Wayne. I feel like there's some contention 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.840 growing between Hove and anybody else that gets hot to 0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.800 the point where they're on his radar. Yeah, because I 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:03.719 remember I remember that we should go that should go 0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:05.880 back to nas Well, there was the rumors that that 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.239 Wayne was gonna leave Cash Money and then signed with 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.800 Rocking Rock. I remember that. I remember that being a 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.200 thing a few different times, and then and then it 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.399 seemed like they been back before I was with Young Money. 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.040 I think Wayne and Jay had some business history. I 0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.560 think Jay was gonna sign him or he was going 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.759 to give him, like a situation to something that go 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:29.120 back and then it said what happened said in an 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:37.640 interview that they were talking mm hmm. But then there 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:41.359 was like after the Carter three, it felt like there 0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:45.880 was like this almost like an unspoken like like like 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.840 energy between the two where it was like Wayne was 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.279 the only guy who was like challenging Hove. Is that dude? 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:53.759 And I felt like that. I feel like it was 0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.759 definitely like was that talked about like openly or was 0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:00.359 it more just like you mean amongst us like the crew, Nah, 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.359 we always looked at even Wayne. Wayne look at Jay 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:07.680 like Jay, you the go. But Wayne his favorite like 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:13.320 person ever is like Prince Kobe Bryant. Like if anybody 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.799 knows Wayne, they will tell you mails No, Wayne off 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:19.919 that it's Prince and Kobe Bryant. Michael Jackson is cool, 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:23.680 but to Wayne, Michael Jackson isn't Prince, you know what 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.439 I'm saying. Jordan Jordan is cool too, but to Wayne, yeah, 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.000 Kobe could have won seven, you know what I'm saying. 0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.560 So it's like menia. His mentality is I love Mike, 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.279 but I'm coming at him. And I think that's what 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.719 it always was with Jay, even if you go back 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.000 to I'm the best rapper alive since the best rapper retired, 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.200 and then once JD wasn't retiring no more. He never 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.440 stopped calling himself the best rapper alive though. He just 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.640 kept calling himself. It's like, oh you back. I thought 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:53.960 it was my turn. I thought you was retiring. Well 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.120 I'm still. I'm still that nigga here. So if you 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.640 that nigga and I'm I'm the best, though I know 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.279 you might be the greatest, but I'm the best, Like 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.800 right now, I'm the best. And I think Wayne just 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:07.080 carried that shit for so long. He carried that shit 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:10.799 for so long. It's you heard it when you when 0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:12.840 you heard him about to come on a song, you 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.000 just felt that energy like he just feel he about 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:16.920 to come on. He used to tell us that he 0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:19.160 used to play beats and look at me and Drake 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.839 and Nikki and Tyger Gutto whoever's on the song. Oh, 0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:25.080 I'm just letting your balls know, like I'm gonna kill 0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:26.920 all your niggas on this song right now and turn 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:28.640 around and just turn the ship all the way back 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:30.719 up and like this blood that's crazy. So when you 0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.840 at some point, now we come on the record like 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.240 that too. Now, Nikki, come on, I'm a motherfucking mine stuff. 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.719 But she come on like I want to kill I 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.920 don't think Little Chucky ever playing a record like that. Damn, Yo, 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.840 you really don't like Chucky was horrible. I was like, 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:47.879 why these Why is he signing these twelve year old 0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.479 children who can't rap? Shout out to Chuck and shout 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.000 out to Twists. Man. Look, the views of Bootleg keV 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:56.480 are nothing to do with the views and Mills. Yeah, 0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:01.080 I can you know what though, I can respect, Nah, 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.000 I don't want to say I could respect because those 0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:09.200 still my little homies forever. I can understand a person 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.560 like you being like, nah, they was fucking trash because 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.040 they could look. Look who they standing next to. They 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:20.640 standing next to Wayne Drake, Nikki Tiger Mills. I'm godly 0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:22.840 with this lyric. If I never put out an album 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.040 with Young Money. I always used to say I was 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.480 who I was before I got here. I'm godly. I'm 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.160 gonna let you know me for what you know me for. 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.279 This can't change that, it can add on. I have 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.040 plaques for one hundred million streams, and I have plaques 0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.759 for four times Platinum, two times Platinum, Billboard Peak one 0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:44.239 Peak two Peak seven. That's more than I had before 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:47.160 I got there. True, So the good outway to bad. 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:48.839 You know what I'm saying a lot of people, they 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.640 might have loved Drake and Wayne, but they looked at me, 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.520 how you looked that little chucky in a little twist 0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.239 like oh my god, Jay Mills and Gutta Gutta was 0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.520 fucking horrible. They may look at us like it's just 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.440 like these people that may look at me and gut 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:05.759 a gutting like nah, they was killing dedication through they 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.160 held They held a lot of them mixtapes up when 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.359 other artists wasn't on them ships. Now, you had said 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.120 something to me last week. You said you were around 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.920 Young Money enough to see everyone get kicked out at 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:25.440 least once. Oh shit, I said that to you. I did, 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:30.040 I did? I did. So explain to me the times 0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:32.400 in which both Nikki and Drake were kicked out of 0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.880 Young Money, because that seems like a preposterous thing. You 0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.400 want to hear. You want to hear the story about 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.160 how Nikki and Drake were once kicked out of it 0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.239 was probably only lasted for about a day or two, right, 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.200 But or do you want to hear when I got 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:47.960 kicked out of? You? All of them? But which which 0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:49.839 one do you want to hear first, whatever you feel, 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.839 I'll give you the Nicky and Drake shit first because 0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:56.040 they're bigger names and that'll probably be more entertaining for y'all. 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:01.840 I remember or I saw with Nicki Nicki if you 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.640 remember that one time she was managed by Dad Walker 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.239 Moms yep, yeah, and Dad had a work and had 0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.200 her out there with Gucci, and you know, I think 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.319 Dad was managing French at that time. So she used 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.840 to do like some shit like Gucci to be booked. 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.080 But French and Nicki get a bag too, and they 0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:21.360 come together. So it got to a point when we 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.080 started going out because we used to record a lot 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.719 in Atlanta, Miami and shit like that. But now when 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.880 Carter three come out Wayne on the road and he 0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:32.879 used to tell us shit like he used to tell 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.080 me a lot. This is what made me start coming. 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.160 He was like, Yo, I don't think it's fair to 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:40.160 the other artists that you get to go home and 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.000 then fly back when you want to come back out. 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.600 Like they don't go home, they just they they on 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.480 the road with me. But I had never been a 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.120 part of nothing like that to understand an artist like 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.640 him that lives on the road like lives on a 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:54.359 tour bus. You know what I'm saying. I was more 0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:55.719 like a well when y'all come to New York or 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:56.960 you want me to come back out? Let me know. 0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.480 His thing was, Miles, I fuck with you. You need 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:02.839 to be here whenever what you're there for, what you're 0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:05.160 doing there, Young money ain't in New York. We on 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.759 the road while you're there, you young money, right, And 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.080 then it hit me like, all right, I gotta be 0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:15.080 here more so Nicki at that time, she was booked, 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.520 so she got her own She's building like her own 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.080 Nicki Lewinsky. You know what I'm saying. She building her 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.960 own little Thingcottie Tape in them clubs. Like she was 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.160 getting getting bags while we riding the bus with Wayne 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:31.759 and we you know he bringing us out. She doing 0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:34.239 that too, but she might have a bag to get 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:37.560 in South Carolina or here here. And I think he 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.080 started to feel like, you know, he never wanted nobody 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:42.400 to feel like they was better than another artist, Like 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:44.400 I don't want Nikki to feel like she better than 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.279 Chanelle or Guns just because she booked. But I don't 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.239 want Mills to feel like he bigger than Twist or 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.879 Chucky just because he been on TV with Diddy before 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.320 and he did battles and he had deals. Like we 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.120 all at the same level. You're all the same level 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.520 field right now. Like let's look don't look down on nobody, 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.680 because I ain't looking down on you now. If you're 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:04.479 gonna look down on a little Chucky or little Twist, 0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:06.719 or you're gonna look down on guns, I gotta look 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:09.480 down on you now, Mills, I have to, you know 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:12.040 what I'm saying. So once we got that shit in 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.680 our mind, Wayne was looking at it. I think like 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:18.399 Nicki doing her own thing. I think Wayne was looking 0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:22.600 at it on some shit like oh, she trying to 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.399 be over here and over here and kind of see 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:27.880 which one pop first. You gotta remember, it wasn't no 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.719 every girl in the world yet. It wasn't no we 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.000 was just Wayne's crew, you know what I'm saying. But 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:36.759 Gucci was still Gucci. Like French wasn't big, big, big 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.080 French Montana yet, but he coke boys and he so 0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.640 he don't know if like NICKI was like you fucking 0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:43.520 over you over here, like you fucking with us or 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.360 you fucking with them? You fuck? And I think he 0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:47.000 just had one of them days where he was like, yo, 0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.640 she ain't young on money, no more like and then 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:52.920 she started just working. She'll be at video shoots here 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.440 and there, change hair color, start wearing tight dresses. And 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.480 did he tell that to her? I don't know if you, 0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:58.960 I don't. I don't want to say he told it 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.440 to her. He probably told matt Or told Tesz to 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.120 call or whatever. She never said nothing. He never said nothing. 0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:09.600 And then him being a businessman and just understanding where 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:11.719 he trying to take young money. I think he told 0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.239 mac or Tez, like, yo, we put in too much 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:19.000 work to just let her go, like tell, I said, 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.600 you know what I'm saying. And then she was back 0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:23.040 on the road with us, but she was still doing 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.239 her own thing. But she was back on the road. 0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:27.840 But I can understand how he could feel like that, 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.440 because it's like, Yo, is you over here or is 0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:33.520 you over there? Is like, what is you doing right now? 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:35.160 You know what I'm saying. So they came to their agreement, 0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:38.560 and after that everything was cool, you know what I'm saying. 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:40.600 But I think it was a misunderstanding. It wasn't like 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.919 it was a miscommunication somewhere. Same thing with the Drake shit. 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.239 I think Wayne and Drake thing at that time was 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.520 more so Wayne and Taz, you know what I'm saying, 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:53.799 Like Wayne trusting Taz with shit and then finding out 0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:56.279 like some shit might not be what it is, and like, 0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:00.520 but now Drake is in the middle of it because 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.319 it's like, you know, it's that business, that paperwork shit 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:05.359 and like all of that type of shit. I think 0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:07.320 that was an issue, you know what I'm saying. And 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.520 I was in the studio with Drake in New York 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:17.200 and cool chilling everything, cool smokey recording, and he went 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.520 up and went in the hallway and came back and 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:21.960 I was like, you good. He's like yeah, man, he's 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.120 like to just telling me I'm not young money no more, 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:29.040 same thing you just did. I was like, like, where 0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:31.320 the fuck did that come from? Like, because this is 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:35.320 at a time where like every girl is out like 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:40.120 we you know, we charting, like Drake's doing like, uh 0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:44.120 say something and did you new girl? Like he's doing 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.440 like features now for Mary J and Drake, I mean 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:51.040 not Drake, Mary J, Jamie Fox. Yeah, he doing like 0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:53.080 shit outside of the box. And I think it was 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:57.360 that same thing again. It was like that Yo, what 0:56:57.520 --> 0:57:00.080 y'all like, because there's so much shit going on, but 0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.719 Wayne don't know, you know what I'm saying, He don't 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:06.560 know what the fuck is going on with his artists. 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:08.640 And I think that was the thing with Drake. It 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.200 wasn't It wasn't really nothing with Drake, because even Drake 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.040 told him, he was like, he said, it really don't 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:16.320 have nothing to do with you and me. Just knowing Wayne, 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:17.880 I know he was having one of them days where 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.560 it's like, fuck, is everybody keeping me in the dark 0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:22.880 with shit? If these is? This is my shit? You 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.440 know what I'm saying, And just once again miscommunication miss 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.960 seeing the same thing with fucking what Little Twist? I mean, 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.400 we don't. Little Twist wasn't in the Bedrock video. If 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.080 you notice, Little Chucky was all through the Bedrock video, 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.080 but he wasn't on the song. Was it because Wayne 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:42.720 wasn't fucking the matter? Because got him trouble in school 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.840 or some shit like that, whoor tutoring or son happened 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:48.320 with his moms like, so Wayne wouldn't let him be 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:49.880 in the video. He just let Little Chucky be all 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:51.760 through that. He let Little Chucky be the extra in 0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:56.080 everybody's verse. That's so funny. That's so funny. You know 0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:59.160 what I'm saying. I remember, I don't want people to 0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.040 feel like this nigga just want to sit up there 0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:02.920 and tell stories while people all day. No, I'm just 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:04.560 telling you real shit, and I'm gonna tell you about 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:08.160 when my stupid ass got kicked out. If you remember 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:13.280 the BET Awards, when Drake's foot was hert he had 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:15.120 just fucked his foot up when he was on tour. 0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.800 He had tours acl but he still came out and 0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:23.040 performed at the BT Awards, and I think Reginee came 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:26.080 out on stage. It wasn't meant to be disrespectful, but 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.160 they was performing every girl. I say they because as 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:31.080 I tell this story, this is gonna fuck everybody up. 0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:33.960 So when they was performing every girl and Drake was 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.600 sitting in a chair and the kids came out, they 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.600 pulled the performance and they never showed it again because 0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:41.400 we was performing. I just want to fuck every girl 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.600 in the world. And people had their kids up there 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.120 and we were just happy that we made it to 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:49.479 the awards show. You know what I'm saying. Wayne usually 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:54.080 performed with the hot boys cash Money. This is like everybody, 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.720 this is like young money, the shit that he had, 0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:58.640 the plan he had for us, this shit came to life. 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:02.080 We on stage BT Awards. J Miles wasn't on that stage. 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:09.280 J Mills was in New York on one hundred and 0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:13.080 twelve and fifth Avenue down the block from the Projects, 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:18.800 looking at that performance at his homies crib. Vodo was 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:22.360 there with me. Shout to Vado and the girl that 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:24.960 I had pregnant at that time sitting next to me, 0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:28.160 about eight months pregnant, and I'm looking at them perform like, oh, 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:35.120 I'm done. I missed my flight. Two flights. Two flights 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.800 flights from New York Airport, had a whole nother flight 0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:39.720 books from JFK by the time I got the JFK 0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:43.240 missed that one too. We have to perform at the 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:52.200 BT Awards first live TV performance. Now my verse was performed, 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:57.000 but it wasn't me who performed it. Shout out to 0:59:57.240 --> 1:00:01.040 my brother mac Maine because at that time we both 1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:03.480 had the same facial here and we both had like 1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:06.520 low seasons and ship and we was like husky chubby, 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:09.280 husky type dudes. Hey, you just want to stay with 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:14.080 some shades, and he I ain't you know that's wild. 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.200 I ain't being disrespectful, baby, I'm just being Mac damn. 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:24.640 But luckily for Milsey, the fucking performance got pulled, so 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:29.600 it never even ended up happening like it, but it happened. 1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:32.200 You just can't find it anywhere. Yeah, I mean you 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:34.919 made somebody may have uploaded the YouTube or some ship 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:36.640 like that, but yeah, but it didn't actually make the 1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:41.320 broadcast not live. And then when they whenever they showed 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:44.760 the after that, they just never showed that performance. Now, 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.960 this is all a part of my getting kicked out 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:52.600 of the Young Money story. So Mac like, Yo, we 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.160 uh were in New York, but were about to leave. 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:56.400 You know, we're about to leave from whre the jet 1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:59.760 leave from. We're about to go to Paris. Were about 1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:03.080 to go do the Paris Run and overseas and all 1:01:03.200 --> 1:01:05.520 that shit. So Mac was like, I don't really want 1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:06.960 you to miss this because you know you need to 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:08.960 be here. You know too, Mad He ain't fucking with you, 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:12.160 like you're not Young Money right now, he said, But 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:15.320 you know, I just want to see you know what 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.640 I'm saying, Like, let's just you gotta face it, you 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:19.479 know what I'm saying say you can't just chill because 1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:22.040 if you chill, he'll never call you again. So I 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:25.160 will say, if it wasn't for Mac Main, I would 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:28.480 have been curved from young money a long time, a 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:32.040 long time ago. So regardless, and me and Mac we 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:34.880 done have a million disagreements, almost came to fights a 1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:38.560 million times. Mac Main is like a big brother to me, 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:41.800 Like he's like the big brother that you always get 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:44.640 into a fight with, but he kind of always right 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:48.320 years later, like the shit he was telling you years 1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:50.440 ago that y'all got in an argument about shit. Kind 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:51.720 of he kind of was right, but he kind of 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:54.200 didn't worry it right, and he always both fiery at 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:58.280 that time. So Mac was like, yo, just come to 1:01:58.360 --> 1:01:59.720 the jet and let's just see if he wants you 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:02.000 to come to Paris with us. So when I get 1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:05.800 some I get to the jet. They not there yet, 1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:07.720 so I just get on the jet and I just 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:09.360 wait for them to put He's like, well a few 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.040 minutes away. So I remember they got on the jet, right, 1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:15.880 So I remember, I'm me and Tad. I think streets 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:19.040 a couple of people, Mac man assistant everybody get up 1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:21.600 on the joint and they look at me and just go. 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:27.280 So I'm dabbing everybody. But you know, like on the jet. 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:30.240 Well let's say were on the jet and you coming 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:32.440 in right here, and we got the sofa right here. 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:34.360 They got the captain seats right there. You know, Wayne 1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:37.040 sit all the way in the back, all his bags everything, 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:39.920 you know. So I'm sitting on the sofa. Thay, everybody 1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:42.720 walking by dapping me. So Wayne get on the He 1:02:42.760 --> 1:02:44.240 get on the jet right so he get up, he 1:02:44.320 --> 1:02:47.480 look at me. He just keep walking like it threw 1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:50.360 them off to see me. Right. So now we're waiting, 1:02:50.640 --> 1:03:00.840 jet about to take off. So everybody talking. A couple 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:02.880 of people talking to me. But I noticed Wayne his 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:07.720 conversation ain't reaching where I'm at. So he back there, 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.120 he listened to his music, you know, looking out the window. 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.640 So I said, all right, this ain't this ain't like 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:15.720 friend shit. This is business right now. You have to 1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:19.400 go apologize, like you missed a little you missed a 1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:24.200 performance at the BET Awards. You have to go speak 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:28.800 to this man. I walked back there. I was like, yo, 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:30.600 you know what I'm saying, my fault for missing the flight. 1:03:30.720 --> 1:03:32.200 You know what I'm saying, I apologize. I know that 1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:36.040 shit was unprofessional. Blah blah blah blah blah, and like 1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:39.200 he looked at me said he said, what you say? 1:03:40.920 --> 1:03:42.400 So I was like, now I'm talking about the fight. 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:43.720 He said, no, I heard you, but I'm asking you 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:49.480 what you say. I said, you're right. I just went 1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:55.840 and sat back down. From Teeterborough to Paris, this man 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:58.919 did not say a word to me, spoke to everybody 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:03.560 else joking ha ha ha. Food just kept walking by 1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:06.000 me the whole flight, even when we got the Paris checked. 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:07.920 I had my It wasn't like he shit it on 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:12.000 me when I got to Paris, but behind closed doors, 1:04:12.480 --> 1:04:15.560 I felt that shit like I was definitely on like 1:04:16.280 --> 1:04:18.960 curve time for a while. And if it wasn't for 1:04:19.040 --> 1:04:21.880 mac Maine like telling me, like yo, just come to 1:04:22.000 --> 1:04:24.560 the jet and like just see what happened, if I 1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:26.960 would have been on some bit shit and been like, nah, man, 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:28.440 fuck that shit. If he ain't fucking with me, he 1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:30.120 ain't fucking with me, Like you know what I'm saying, 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:32.400 Like I had to eat that shit, but I was wrong, 1:04:33.120 --> 1:04:35.640 you know what I'm saying. So that's my story of 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:38.760 when I got fucking curved. You know what I'm saying, 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:40.680 I definitely thought it was over for me though, now 1:04:40.760 --> 1:04:44.320 you're you're independent. Now, when what year did you like 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:47.160 officially have like an official split away from Young Money. 1:04:47.160 --> 1:04:49.720 I know it was cordial. Yeah, I left Young Money 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:52.600 the end of twenty sixteen, and I'm gonna tell you 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:56.960 where I left h into twenty sixteen. I had my 1:04:57.040 --> 1:04:59.320 surgery already. I had a surgery in twenty fifteen to 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:02.480 remove to him my throat. My daughter was born in 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:06.400 twenty and twelve, so twenty sixteen, she going on five. 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:09.960 I'm not the same dude I was in two thousand 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:11.960 and seven, you know what I'm saying. I'm not the 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:15.280 same twenty seven year old kid running around wanting to 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:17.120 fuck every girl in the world at this point, like 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:19.480 I got a little girl in this world now, Like 1:05:20.120 --> 1:05:21.960 just the way I think now is different. And then 1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:25.280 it's like, now it's bad with Wayne and Birdman now, 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:28.439 you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, and I want yeah, yeah, shit, 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:30.680 it was bad and I'm one of them, And I 1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:33.600 was always good with Birdman and Wayne, you know what 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:36.280 I'm saying. So we was all kind of caught in 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:39.120 the middle of the shit now. But now it's like 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:42.320 I'm one of them. I'm a rider to the wheels 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:46.400 fall off dude at that point, and I feel like, 1:05:46.800 --> 1:05:49.920 to some people, Mills you should have been left. I 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:52.400 remember busting round seeing me in a sneaker store in 1:05:52.440 --> 1:05:54.160 Miami and being like, Yo, what are you doing? What 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:57.280 you're waiting for? Like you're waiting for them to stop 1:05:57.400 --> 1:06:00.520 fucking with you, like to make you feel that, or 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:03.400 you're gonna like just see it, you know what I'm saying. 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:06.800 But at that time, I'm like, Nah, he gave me 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:09.920 a chance. I owe him a little bit more to 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:13.800 leave because it's not good right now. You know what 1:06:13.800 --> 1:06:16.360 I'm saying. Because it's not good right now, I owe 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:18.880 him a little bit more than to leave right now. 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:21.400 I gotta ride this one out, you know what I'm saying, 1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:25.439 Even if my loyalty is turning into stupidity, I owe 1:06:25.520 --> 1:06:27.080 him this to ride this out with him. You know 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:29.400 what I'm saying. Now, When it got to a point 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:33.480 where I just didn't know what I was doing no more, right, 1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:35.080 you know what I'm saying. I didn't know when I 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:39.120 come around if I was supposed to be there or not. 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:41.440 You know what I'm saying, I don't know if like 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:44.440 I'm overstaying and this is just real shit because I 1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:46.040 never really said this to a lot of people in 1:06:46.080 --> 1:06:49.200 young Money. I never said this to Wayne, you know 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:50.960 what I'm saying, like real shit. I never said this 1:06:51.080 --> 1:06:53.640 to Birdman or mac Maine or nothing like that. But 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:57.240 I just felt like I was overstaying my welcome, and 1:06:57.360 --> 1:07:01.080 I felt like the Southern hospitality wasn't gonna let them 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:04.840 shit on me. You know what I'm saying, that they 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:08.840 got good hearts, they not fucked up individuals. I'm never 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:11.000 gonna say that, you know what I'm saying, But I 1:07:11.080 --> 1:07:15.080 think that Southern hospitality of you know what I'm saying. 1:07:15.120 --> 1:07:16.760 I fuck with him, but I just don't know what 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:18.600 to do with him, you know what I'm saying. I 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:22.120 think that was just like and he a good, a 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:24.919 good you know, millsy family, you know what I'm saying. 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:28.360 So it got to I could either be family and 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:32.600 just you know, you don't know what they trying to 1:07:32.640 --> 1:07:34.600 do with you, and they don't really know what they 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:36.920 trying to do with you, and just to be real 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:40.480 with you, they don't have an idea of doing anything 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:43.760 with you at this point, Like this is the rebuild 1:07:43.840 --> 1:07:46.760 of Lil Wayne at this time, because I remember during 1:07:46.800 --> 1:07:51.040 that period of time when he was beefing heavy with Birdman, 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:53.720 Wayne went on this like club run in the South 1:07:53.800 --> 1:07:55.960 where he was taking bags that like you would never 1:07:56.080 --> 1:07:58.240 have ever expected Wayne to take. Like he did a 1:07:58.280 --> 1:08:00.120 show in Tampa when I was living in town. That 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:02.320 was around the time. I was like, I just had 1:08:02.400 --> 1:08:04.960 it was twenty fifteen, he said, like twenty fifteen. That 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.440 was around that time I had my surgery and I 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:10.080 think I was healing like he did. He did a 1:08:10.120 --> 1:08:12.760 show in Tampa for like forty bands at a nightclub, 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:17.760 and I remember being like, wait, little Wayne doing something 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:20.600 for forty thousand dollars, like, but I think it was 1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:24.519 because he was just I think I obviously speculation, but 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:26.640 I just think he was just grabbing cash. Yeah, I 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:28.479 mean cash. At the end of the day, he was 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:30.400 doing the whole HU but he was doing this whole 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:34.120 club run that like you would never think Wayne would do. Yeah, yeah, 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:36.000 And I was you know what it was for me? 1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:40.240 Mostly it was I could even stay here because you 1:08:40.240 --> 1:08:42.200 gotta remember, I got a kid now, so I could 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:46.400 even stay here and figure out what he going to do, 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:50.000 or I could go figure out what I'm going to 1:08:50.040 --> 1:08:53.080 do because it's not like you're on a Young Money salary. No, 1:08:54.360 --> 1:08:57.000 it wasn't like it was assuming by like then it 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.240 was not any income coming It wasn't like it was 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:01.560 no it was income coming in because we've been on 1:09:01.680 --> 1:09:05.200 hit records, we've been on album we still coming in. 1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:07.719 But I mean, like as far as money, the plan 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:10.040 like because at this time I'm looking at it like 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:14.479 I I'm looking at like Drake on four fifth, Nikki 1:09:14.600 --> 1:09:18.000 on I'm looking at it like I R Now I'm 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:20.120 looking at the what's the plan? Like what is the 1:09:20.200 --> 1:09:25.360 plan for me? Not what is the plan for Wayne? 1:09:26.160 --> 1:09:27.439 You know what I'm saying. This is like the first 1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:30.800 time where now I really have to look at like, Bro, 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:33.560 nobody's gonna take you on tour, nobody's gonna throw you 1:09:33.640 --> 1:09:37.520 on a single, nobody's gonna jump on your single, nobody's 1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:42.479 gonna promote your single, nobody's gonna promote any fucking thing 1:09:42.560 --> 1:09:47.000 you have going because everybody has their own shit going right, 1:09:47.320 --> 1:09:49.479 and shit is so different now. When I came around, 1:09:49.479 --> 1:09:52.800 people were still selling ring tones. By the time I left, 1:09:52.840 --> 1:09:56.280 Young Money music was coming out on Fridays. Now right, 1:09:56.479 --> 1:09:59.519 no longer Tuesdays, It's no longer people lining up in 1:09:59.560 --> 1:10:02.360 front of the stores. All the stores closed, all the 1:10:02.439 --> 1:10:05.160 websites we used to send our music to some niggas 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:07.320 is corn balls. Now you could just put it on 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:10.680 streaming platform Why are we not putting our music on 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:15.200 streaming platforms? Why is Wayne not putting projects on stream? 1:10:15.200 --> 1:10:17.479 Why doesn't Wayne have a four pack out? Why doesn't 1:10:17.479 --> 1:10:20.040 Wayne have an EP out? Why don't we just put 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:24.160 out a new Young Money mixtape to promote everybody who's 1:10:24.200 --> 1:10:28.400 sitting here ice fucking coal. And at that time, when 1:10:28.439 --> 1:10:30.240 I got to think about all that, I'm a virgo, 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:32.240 I get lost in my own mind. It's like, Yo, 1:10:32.400 --> 1:10:35.800 back yourself out. It's like, Yo, you gotta go, you 1:10:35.880 --> 1:10:38.200 gotta go. Not a bad thing. Like man, fuck these niggas. 1:10:38.200 --> 1:10:40.680 They ain't do nothing for me. Nah whoa whoa. Young 1:10:40.760 --> 1:10:44.080 Money did more for J Mills than any other label 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:46.120 did for J Mills. Even if y'all did put me 1:10:46.200 --> 1:10:49.519 on a promo, run and pay for the no No 1:10:49.640 --> 1:10:51.800 no video or put me here, put me there. I 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:54.000 don't have no plaques. I don't have no plaques from 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:57.280 anything before Young Money. I don't have big ass cap 1:10:57.439 --> 1:11:02.360 checks from anything before young money, so I could never say, man, niggas. 1:11:02.400 --> 1:11:05.840 The niggas held me up. Nah, you got lost in 1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:09.920 the midst of some great ship. It happens like that sometimes. 1:11:10.320 --> 1:11:12.840 Now what you're gonna do? Now, keep it moving, Learn 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.400 how to produce, learn how to direct shoot your own videos. 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:18.360 You know what I'm saying. I had to figure it. 1:11:18.600 --> 1:11:21.200 I had to basically figure it out the same way 1:11:21.240 --> 1:11:22.479 I had to figure it out when I got with 1:11:22.600 --> 1:11:25.560 your money. I have no deal. I'm taking shots in 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:28.439 the dark. I could listen and see when I hit 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:31.080 the rim. I'm close. Keep taking them fucking shots. What 1:11:31.160 --> 1:11:33.280 did you tell me the other day? It's the perfect 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:37.599 time for somebody like you. Yeah, I told you, yo, 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:39.200 I'm gonna give you a record. Blah blah blah. And 1:11:39.280 --> 1:11:41.680 what did you tell me? Can I say what you 1:11:41.760 --> 1:11:45.280 told me about the radio record? Sure? Fuck the radio 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:48.360 right now? Man, facts facts, bro, And I work at 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:50.519 the radio, And I told when I left because I 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:53.040 had my lady with me, and when I left, we 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.360 was talking about that ship, and I was like I 1:11:55.520 --> 1:11:59.759 needed to hear that, yeah, dog, to hear it because 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:02.800 once again, like when we were talking about See I'm 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:05.200 only reiterating this because they wasn't here for the conversation 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:08.639 other day. Like I was explaining to you that I'm 1:12:08.680 --> 1:12:11.639 from an era of the single. I'm from an era 1:12:11.800 --> 1:12:15.599 of the radio record or the party record. I moved 1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:21.840 to Miami two thousand and ten. That's prime strip club 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.680 for sure. I was there for Live on Sunday King 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:26.720 of Diamonds money. I know what that shit is like 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:30.400 to be with somebody now, and I'm very underrated to 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:34.000 I am super cheap. Let's just get that understood. I 1:12:34.040 --> 1:12:36.160 have never went to King of Diamonds and got singles. 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:38.720 Used to go every Monday. Likewise, See, I like to 1:12:38.760 --> 1:12:40.280 go to the strip club and eat food. What the 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:42.560 fuck am I getting money for? Wayne just got a 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:48.439 box of ones a box and went here, here, here, 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:52.360 What the fuck am I going to get singles for? 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:54.680 So you think you think I'm impressing him, going to 1:12:54.720 --> 1:12:58.880 get this rack of singles? Hell not this. Niggas just 1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:00.800 want to sol a million and in the first week. 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:03.040 What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm gonna get out 1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:06.400 of his box. But that's the type of person he is. 1:13:06.960 --> 1:13:09.960 So like I used to always tell people when I 1:13:10.000 --> 1:13:12.519 got around young money. That fucked me up to be 1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:14.439 like when we on the road and he pulling the 1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:16.240 red lobster. We on an eighteen hour bus ride, he 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.840 pulling the red lobster. I tell this story a lot 1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:20.519 because I'll be trying to paint a picture for people 1:13:21.280 --> 1:13:23.920 pulling the red lobster. He gets steak shrimp baked potato. 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:32.559 It's twenty one orders of steak shrimping baked potatoes. I'm 1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:36.479 not paying for that. Who paid for that? You got? 1:13:36.560 --> 1:13:38.519 Are you chipping in for that? Mac? Who paying for this? Mac? 1:13:39.120 --> 1:13:44.840 Mills just order. Shit went like that for a long time. No, 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:49.160 it went like that forever. It never stopped. So when 1:13:49.200 --> 1:13:50.880 it got to a point where, like you were saying, 1:13:50.880 --> 1:13:53.240 I'm looking at him, he taking a forty thoual bag, 1:13:53.360 --> 1:13:57.600 He'll or a fifty thous bag here. It's like, I 1:13:57.760 --> 1:14:00.320 know why, you know what I'm saying, because that shit 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:03.400 is on his shoulders and that's all he know since 1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:05.640 he was thirteen. All he know is that. All he 1:14:05.760 --> 1:14:10.439 know is that lifestyle chauffeur. He's overhead. Had to be crazy, 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:12.720 it's all he know. You know what I'm saying. I 1:14:12.760 --> 1:14:15.519 always tell people if I was if I was if 1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:18.519 I was Lil Wayne like, if I had Lil Wayne 1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:22.360 money like, I would have been way worse. I would 1:14:22.400 --> 1:14:26.679 have been worse, way worse. But he had money since 1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:29.320 he was so young, so he understood how to take 1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:31.720 care of his homies, how to try to put j 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:34.680 Mills and Corey Gunns, and even if it don't work, 1:14:34.720 --> 1:14:38.519 he understood how to try. So I could accept that, 1:14:38.840 --> 1:14:42.080 you know what I'm saying. But I don't know, man, 1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:44.280 I feel like, like I said, the shit ended how 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:47.240 it was supposed to end for me as far as 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:49.519 that chapter. Now, of course, I still fuck with Wayne, 1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:52.400 I still fuck with everybody else. But do I think 1:14:52.479 --> 1:14:55.200 I could have got more out of Young Money had 1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:58.600 I stayed? You know, do you think you should have 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:03.960 left earlier? Yeah? Yeah, I probably should have left Young 1:15:04.000 --> 1:15:08.519 Money years before I left. But once again, man, it 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:11.400 is what it is. Wayne gave me an opportunity that 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:15.840 nobody else has ever given me before was since So 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:18.200 I don't feel I did anything wrong, you know what 1:15:18.240 --> 1:15:20.680 I'm saying. I feel like I could have left, But 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:23.679 I remember people used to tell me, Man, you should 1:15:23.720 --> 1:15:26.960 go to Mayback, you should go to it, you should 1:15:27.000 --> 1:15:28.880 go here, you should go here, and if you think 1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:31.960 about it, Wayne was the only place I ever went 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:35.560 other than having my own deals. Yeah, I think that, like, 1:15:35.960 --> 1:15:39.400 signing with an artist is a crapshoot anyway, you know, 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:41.280 when you signed with another artist. I think Wayne pulled 1:15:41.320 --> 1:15:43.240 it off nicely. With Nicky and Drake, I think Ross 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:47.160 did a great job. But like, there's plenty more examples 1:15:47.600 --> 1:15:50.240 of rappers who have labels. Yo, God, he's doing a 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:53.080 great job right now. Yeah, but there's plenty of other 1:15:53.240 --> 1:15:55.080 artists who it's like you just look and it's like 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:58.559 the problem is most of the time, when you signed 1:15:58.560 --> 1:16:01.160 with an artist, they don't want the people they signed 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:03.880 to be bigger than them. Yeah, and that's you know 1:16:04.080 --> 1:16:06.760 with Wayne, that didn't happen with Ross that that wasn't 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:09.680 the case. Yeah, some people been around so long it's 1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:13.800 not their first time. Like when Ross did the whole 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:17.320 Mayback music, shit, he had already did Triple C's right, Yeah, 1:16:17.320 --> 1:16:21.080 he had already already did writing for Slippings. He had 1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:26.280 already did so much shit, So it wasn't his first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:16:26.560 --> 1:16:30.240 MMG Energy in like two thousand and like ten eleven, 1:16:31.560 --> 1:16:35.439 so crazy, and I feel like young Money. I'm gonna 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:38.799 say this, I don't feel Young Money gets enough credit 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:43.320 for bringing back that aura, that Crew Crew. You feel 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:46.840 like after like Dipset and G Unit, that was it. 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:49.960 That was the That was the end of that era 1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:58.000 of like d Block, G United, Dip said, uh Rough Riders, Rockefeller, 1:16:58.120 --> 1:16:59.920 you know what. I'm like all of those like Crew 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:02.600 and then like Young Money came and I remember we 1:17:02.720 --> 1:17:04.479 used to get joked on. It was the joke. You know. 1:17:04.560 --> 1:17:07.920 We had the poppy singles and shit like that, but 1:17:08.080 --> 1:17:11.920 we still had like Dedication three, Dedication four, like no ceilings. 1:17:12.479 --> 1:17:16.880 Like the reason why we was like like I Am Music. 1:17:16.960 --> 1:17:20.240 Tour was like six months. It was like the biggest tour. 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:26.000 But at that time, that's when Top was creating uh TD. 1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:29.080 Like I met Jay Rock through Wayne. Yeah, they had 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:31.360 a song that was first single on Warner Broads and 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:34.320 Wayne directed the video. I remember when we flew out here. 1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:36.840 I remember that was when Kendrick was being at that 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:39.920 video shoot like yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay 1:17:39.960 --> 1:17:43.759 in the trailer right, Like you gotta understand I'm from Harlem, 1:17:44.520 --> 1:17:48.320 Wayne out here with Dicky's and Red Band, Dannis and shit, 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:51.360 I'm like I'm new. I don't even know Wayne for 1:17:51.520 --> 1:17:53.519 being like this yet, you know what I'm saying, I'm like, 1:17:54.680 --> 1:17:57.120 fuck is nickoson? But I'm learning, you know what I'm saying. 1:17:57.120 --> 1:17:59.200 I'm just like, oh, he like, yeah, I'm directing his 1:17:59.320 --> 1:18:03.240 video for my uh, for my man's artists. I'm like, who, so, 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:06.280 my man j Rock. I didn't know who TD was. 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:09.840 I didn't know none of that. But I remember, like 1:18:10.040 --> 1:18:12.799 after Young Money, they was the first people I remember 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:16.479 being like, oh, they building some ship like what we're doing. 1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:19.080 Not the same thing, of course not. But I remember 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:22.680 because Schoolboy Q was a part of GED. That was 1:18:22.760 --> 1:18:25.479 Tiger's crew. I don't want to say Tigers. They was 1:18:25.520 --> 1:18:27.559 all crew, you know what I'm saying. I remember shouted 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:29.920 shout out the Q. I remember I remember Q from 1:18:29.960 --> 1:18:34.040 being around Tiger, Like, so, I already knew he was nice, 1:18:34.560 --> 1:18:36.519 you know what I'm saying. I already knew Jay Rock 1:18:37.200 --> 1:18:42.120 from Wayne doing the video. I had heard the apps 1:18:42.160 --> 1:18:47.720 soul uh. A lot of us knew, like found out 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:53.400 about Kendrick. What was this section of section eighty? Section eighty, 1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:55.280 But he was on one of he was on Drake Shit, 1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:59.200 he was on like an interlude or something? Am I bugging? 1:19:00.120 --> 1:19:04.120 Was Kendrick on like a Drake Carter four? Nah, Kendrick 1:19:04.240 --> 1:19:06.000 was on like because I remember we asked him. He 1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:08.760 was like, yo, who that I don't remember? He broke 1:19:08.880 --> 1:19:10.760 down the verse about how Kendrick was talking about how 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:12.320 they met and he went here and he was like, 1:19:12.400 --> 1:19:14.880 that's exactly how it happened. Was it a Drake album? 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:19.719 I think that was yo? For real? If I'm bugging 1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:23.160 right now, how to apologize had to be Carter four. 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:26.680 Carter four had all those interviews with like bun be 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:32.960 Was it a Drake album? Oh the way, You're right, 1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:35.560 You're right, You're right. He was on a yeah, on 1:19:35.720 --> 1:19:38.400 on a Drake album? Kendrick it was on take Care 1:19:38.800 --> 1:19:43.200 all right, So now I'm peeping. I'm like, but at 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:46.080 this time, Ross is doing ye married to Live there 1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:48.160 you go? Because I remember asking Drake like you know, 1:19:48.240 --> 1:19:49.360 and he broke in and he was like, YEO, he's 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:51.439 not and he was rapping the verse like he said, 1:19:51.439 --> 1:19:54.720 and that's exactly how it happened, like how we you know, Yeah, 1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:57.320 Kendrick was already like on his way there. So pd 1:19:57.520 --> 1:20:01.719 E mayeback music. They took that whole ship and ran 1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:05.160 with it. That kind of like birthed the whole. And 1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:08.400 then after that, like Cole look with Dreamville. You know 1:20:08.439 --> 1:20:12.559 what I'm saying, Like he built that ship. It wasn't quick. 1:20:12.640 --> 1:20:14.639 But if you if you look at and you look 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:17.160 at if you look at the Freshman cover, and I 1:20:17.200 --> 1:20:19.120 got a lot I got in all sorts of trouble 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:22.120 for saying my fucking man was supposed to be under 1:20:22.120 --> 1:20:24.559 cover I worded. Remember when I said the double XL 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:27.920 cover was whack because Vado wasn't on it. Oh. I 1:20:28.040 --> 1:20:30.040 caught so much flak for that because everybody thought I 1:20:30.160 --> 1:20:32.519 meant every person on the cover was whack because that 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:35.080 was the J Cole Fra Gizz and that was and 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:38.719 that was one of the best fucking covers. It turned 1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:40.320 out to be one of the best covers. I was 1:20:40.479 --> 1:20:42.800 just mad my home he wasn't on there. I felt 1:20:42.800 --> 1:20:45.000 he deserved to be on there. Cool worded it wrong. 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:48.800 But if you look at from that time on, Cole 1:20:48.920 --> 1:20:52.080 built Dreamville kind of fast. He had because out of 1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:54.720 everybody on that cover, him and he had a he 1:20:54.760 --> 1:20:57.280 had Omens signed to Dreamville. Fro There's a guy named 1:20:57.280 --> 1:20:59.360 Omen that he had signed to the LA like Dreamgo 1:20:59.479 --> 1:21:02.320 was a thing for a while. No, but I mean, 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:05.760 like from what the public first sword because young money 1:21:05.880 --> 1:21:07.800 was a thing for a while. Young money been in things. 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:12.080 Does Jr. Smith have a young Money tattoo on his throat? 1:21:12.680 --> 1:21:16.360 Young Money? Is he? I was just was homie, Okay, 1:21:16.560 --> 1:21:19.240 I didn't know, Yo, Why does this NBA player have 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:23.880 a gigantic young money tattoo on his fucking throat? Then? Guys, 1:21:23.920 --> 1:21:25.960 I when he was at the Bedrock video shooting I noticed. 1:21:26.000 --> 1:21:27.840 I was like, Oh, she got a stupid, big young 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:31.439 money tattoo on his neck. Jesus Christ, the homies. He's 1:21:31.439 --> 1:21:35.519 gotta regret that tattoo, you know what? Like, I don't 1:21:35.560 --> 1:21:38.120 really think jayall Smith regrets too much. That might be fair. 1:21:38.280 --> 1:21:41.000 I don't think anybody who could drink honey on game night, 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:42.720 I don't think they regret too much. Man shout out 1:21:42.720 --> 1:21:45.080 to Jay all Man. So look, your album is out, 1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:49.400 and is this like the beginning of you putting out 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.160 a ship ton of like what's your like? Early earlier 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:54.200 this year I put out poll Music five. Last year 1:21:54.200 --> 1:21:56.880 I put out Feels Like I was here before Keywords. 1:21:57.320 --> 1:22:00.479 My thing right now is just figure out where you 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:03.640 fit in? Right now, there's so much shit going on. 1:22:03.840 --> 1:22:07.200 Like I love the drill shit, of course, I love 1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:09.720 the lyrical shit. I love the melodic shit. I love 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:12.599 the auto tuned shit. I really wish I could fit 1:22:12.720 --> 1:22:15.560 in all of those lanes. But I've tried it, and 1:22:15.720 --> 1:22:17.640 I don't just rap. You know what I'm saying, Like 1:22:18.640 --> 1:22:22.000 I learned, I learned. I say this shit a whole lot. 1:22:22.040 --> 1:22:23.880 You can probably find a million interviews. Whou I say this. 1:22:24.760 --> 1:22:27.160 Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. 1:22:27.240 --> 1:22:29.479 There you go, man, Come on, man, just because you 1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:32.080 can do something does not mean you should. You know 1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:37.600 what I'm saying. Like I could go out and I 1:22:37.640 --> 1:22:40.519 could fuck ten strippers in the strip club, that doesn't 1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:44.640 mean you should. There you go. Whether you got a 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:47.080 girl at home or not, Well, if you don't have 1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:50.920 a girl at home, no, it's still it's COVID, it's cold. 1:22:51.360 --> 1:22:54.360 It shouldn't fuck. You shouldn't have sex with ten different 1:22:54.400 --> 1:22:58.400 people at all. Right now, I mean pandemic times I 1:22:58.479 --> 1:23:00.800 concur but you know, just there you go. I was 1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:03.040 just giving you an analogy. You know what I'm saying. 1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:06.680 It's like I can DJ you know, I can get 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:10.280 on the wheels of still and should I I mean 1:23:10.960 --> 1:23:14.439 I should probably, I should probably not you can probably 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:16.760 you can probably tell him to load a beat up 1:23:16.920 --> 1:23:22.559 right now, talking ship, I'm not rapping, see now you could? 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.400 Should you? Should you? Of course? Not like should you 1:23:25.520 --> 1:23:29.800 really do that? I don't know if you. So That's 1:23:29.840 --> 1:23:31.360 where I'm at with it, man, I'm just trying to 1:23:31.360 --> 1:23:33.880 see where I fit in. I'm having fun with this ship. 1:23:33.920 --> 1:23:38.439 I'm independent with empire. I love my splits, y'all in trouble. 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:41.000 When I hit it, hit the liquid one, and I 1:23:41.080 --> 1:23:43.840 think that that's what that's the beauty of this Eraror. 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:46.200 And that's probably what made me leave Young Money too, 1:23:47.080 --> 1:23:49.000 just realizing I ain't need a machine in this Eraror 1:23:49.040 --> 1:23:51.760 no more. You know what I'm saying the middle man, 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:55.120 it's not the it's like it's not to say it 1:23:55.240 --> 1:23:58.679 like that. But I come from an era of the machine. 1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:00.680 I was part of Warner Brothers Machine. I was part 1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:04.280 of Universal Machine and Steve Rifkin over at SRC and 1:24:04.520 --> 1:24:06.920 a part of Young Moneys. But you were signing a SRC. 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:10.679 I was signed the Universal and then when they started 1:24:10.720 --> 1:24:12.519 doing a bunch of shifting and ship like that like 1:24:13.479 --> 1:24:15.759 me and my team, we didn't really like the David 1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:19.960 Banner Acon era src. Yeah, David Banner was up there. 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:21.880 I've been being on the road with David Banner. I've 1:24:21.880 --> 1:24:27.360 been on the road with Remy there with Akon, Steve Rifkin, 1:24:27.439 --> 1:24:30.519 Ah man, shout out to Steve Rifkins manage and Buster rhymes, 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:34.720 now what Yeah, it's Buster's manager. Know that's dope man, 1:24:34.760 --> 1:24:37.080 and shout out the Buster too. I've seen an interview 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:41.320 with Buster was talking about the surgery. Uh, surgery you had. 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:44.000 That shit fucked me up because that's the same surgery 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:47.080 I had. And I never really heard nobody like talk 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:50.000 about that ship ship like. It scared me from the 1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:54.920 perspective of Uh, you know, when some shit happened to you, 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:59.200 you don't feel it. No, that's a bad analogy. You 1:24:59.320 --> 1:25:02.880 have a you have a you smoke weed. Yeah, you 1:25:03.000 --> 1:25:04.679 have a smoke a bunch of weed and then walk 1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:06.960 in the mall and wonder why everybody looking at you. 1:25:07.000 --> 1:25:08.280 You think maybe you're sneak. You know, you got the 1:25:08.320 --> 1:25:09.920 new sneak, you got some new Yeezy's on it. You 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:13.120 don't similar and you don't realize you smell like the 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.640 back of the dispensary, like it all just came in 1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:17.760 and you opened it and rubbed it all over your skin. 1:25:17.880 --> 1:25:20.760 But you're high, so you don't you cool? You don't 1:25:20.800 --> 1:25:23.559 smell that shit that's me, or I don't I smell amazing. 1:25:23.640 --> 1:25:25.519 I still smell like the colonne I sprayed this morning. 1:25:25.800 --> 1:25:28.000 You smoked eight blunts since then, meals you don't smell 1:25:28.040 --> 1:25:30.439 like that. But I'm in it, so I don't see it. 1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:32.880 I remember the first time I seen Wayne have a 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:36.479 seizure on the jet in the air. Now I have siezures. 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:41.360 I have sieges in my sleep. Oh wow, like scariest 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:44.760 shit ever. So but every time I ever had a 1:25:44.760 --> 1:25:47.280 siege in my sleep, I wake up and I'm cool, Like, 1:25:47.760 --> 1:25:51.400 so you were there when we had a seizure, like 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:54.120 two different times, scariest shit I ever seen in my 1:25:54.200 --> 1:25:57.880 life because it made me feel you know, it made 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:00.120 me feel like, oh, that's what I look like like. 1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:02.880 And then when he got up, he was cool. He 1:26:03.000 --> 1:26:06.760 was like, yo was his like lean usage that bad? 1:26:07.840 --> 1:26:09.160 I don't know if it was. I don't know if 1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:11.920 it was the lean because I don't sibling and I 1:26:11.960 --> 1:26:16.320 have seen everyone's kind of uh come to that conclusion. 1:26:16.320 --> 1:26:18.479 I don't know. I don't. I can't really say it 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:21.280 because once again, I don't sibling, and I have a 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:25.960 history of you never sibling. I tried it one time, 1:26:26.000 --> 1:26:28.840 but I tried it by my quad. I tried it 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:30.680 by mistake me and gutta gut it was and hit 1:26:30.760 --> 1:26:34.600 factory one time and I had a sun kiss and 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:36.280 you know, you got the white cups with the ice 1:26:36.880 --> 1:26:40.280 poured it in there, but I didn't realize that, uh 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:42.760 he had some lean and some sun kiss too, you 1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:45.160 know what I'm saying somewhere. So when I hit the cup, 1:26:45.600 --> 1:26:49.320 I'm like, oh, this ship tastes sweet, you know, tastes good. Actually, 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:51.800 you know what I'm saying. But like I'm thinking, maybe 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:54.479 you know, it's just a good ass sun kiss, right, 1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:58.920 And I caught one hit it again. I remember like, oh, 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:02.200 I was just like slump beat playing like I'm trying 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:06.280 to get up. I feel good though, but I'm just 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:10.639 wow comfortable, like and he like, mil bitch, drunk my cup, bitch. 1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:14.800 I'm like, nah, that was my cup, Like males, your 1:27:14.840 --> 1:27:16.599 cup over there, bitch, this is my cup right here. 1:27:16.640 --> 1:27:19.920 I'm like, oh shit. And that's when I realized the 1:27:19.960 --> 1:27:22.200 whole time I was drinking gutta gutter cup. Did everyone like, 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:25.920 was it like a panic when like he had a seizure, 1:27:25.960 --> 1:27:29.280 because that's an alarming thing to witness, especially Wayne. Yeah, yeah, 1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:31.320 that shit is a panic. But it was a panic 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:35.960 for me because everybody looking at me like males you do, like, yo, 1:27:36.160 --> 1:27:40.280 I've never I usually be in the molde he's in 1:27:40.479 --> 1:27:42.800 right now. And I remember when he woke up, like yo, 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.880 I'm good, everybody, you know, and they had the EMS 1:27:45.960 --> 1:27:48.760 on the thing. Get the fuck off my jet because 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:50.599 we had to land the jet. We was going to La. 1:27:50.680 --> 1:27:52.479 We had to land the jet for the emest to 1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:53.639 get on, and now we got to put the jet 1:27:53.680 --> 1:27:57.320 back up in the air. So rich nigga shit, I'm not. 1:27:57.880 --> 1:28:01.000 I don't live on rich nigga shit, even with money. 1:28:01.160 --> 1:28:03.599 I want to live on broke nigga shit. You live 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:07.599 like you broke, you'll stay rich man. Put this bitch 1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:09.360 back up in the motherfucking air, y'all know, not much 1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:13.680 this fucking gas course. I was like, that guy has 1:28:13.720 --> 1:28:17.639 a point. Right now. We did land his jet. Now 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:19.160 we have to put it back up in the air 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:22.120 and land it again. It's a whole nother fee that 1:28:22.280 --> 1:28:24.080 none of us are paying. He had a seizure though. 1:28:24.560 --> 1:28:27.639 Now now granted, I'm like I get it. I get 1:28:27.680 --> 1:28:30.160 where he's coming from. Oh, y'all, get the fuck up 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:31.680 my jet. Come on this. I gotta get to LA 1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:33.759 because he gotta get to LA to do an event, 1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:36.120 like a video game event or something like that. Now 1:28:36.200 --> 1:28:38.040 you know you don't do that. Now you have to 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:40.360 pay for the gas to put the jet back up again. 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:42.840 And you got to give them back that deposit they 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:44.360 gave you because you ain't show up to that event. 1:28:44.439 --> 1:28:49.280 You lost twice. Today jet go back up in the air. 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:52.360 He like, Milsy, He like that shit was that bad? 1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:55.120 It was? It was serious like that. And I promise 1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:57.320 you I did not want to you know, you don't 1:28:57.320 --> 1:29:00.439 want to really say that, but I'm like, she was bad. Bro. 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:04.280 That was the first time I probably told him soning. 1:29:04.280 --> 1:29:06.320 He ain't want to hear. It's like, bro, that shit 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:09.160 was the scaries shit I've ever seen in my life. Like, like, 1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:10.920 I don't want to see you like that ever again. 1:29:11.000 --> 1:29:13.960 My nigga. He's like word, He's like, believe that blood 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:16.240 love you know what I'm saying. And then after that 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:19.120 when we land, he went to he went to the 1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:21.479 hospital and that's when he stayed overnight. And you know, 1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:24.800 but that shit was scary, man, because it's like and 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:26.360 that's why I said, I don't want to I don't 1:29:26.360 --> 1:29:28.040 want to put it to the Lean. I don't. You 1:29:28.080 --> 1:29:30.960 know what I'm saying, Because when I have seizures, it's 1:29:31.000 --> 1:29:34.280 from overworking myself. It's high blood pressure and low sugar count. 1:29:34.360 --> 1:29:36.760 It's it's an imbalance, you know what I'm saying. So 1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:40.960 it ain't it ain't Perks and Zannies and Lean because 1:29:41.000 --> 1:29:43.599 I got a history of this shit and I don't 1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:45.960 do none of that shit, right, you know what I'm saying. 1:29:46.040 --> 1:29:47.960 Like the closest to a pill, I'm gonna get his 1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:50.200 partying with an E Pill or Molly back in the day. 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:52.320 Just it does seemed like that that is so different 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:55.320 people bodies, you know, they it shit hit different. But 1:29:55.920 --> 1:29:59.479 that that's some scary shit. Damn. Was that like something 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:01.360 where like you think that like it maybe changed the 1:30:01.400 --> 1:30:03.519 way he thought about some of the recreational use of 1:30:03.520 --> 1:30:07.280 stuff he had going on. Probably probably when you almost die, 1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:09.519 your life flash before you you think about all sorts 1:30:09.520 --> 1:30:12.679 of shit that's whether you get shot, you get stabbed, 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:15.840 you get jumped, natural causes. I remember when the doctor 1:30:15.880 --> 1:30:18.759 told me I got you know, I got six months 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:20.760 if I don't get this surgery. And then he said, 1:30:20.760 --> 1:30:23.080 I'm gonna let you be with your lady in six 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:26.200 months and walked out like damn, like I'm gonna let 1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:28.120 you figure out if you want to get this surgery 1:30:28.280 --> 1:30:29.960 or if you want to wait it out a little bit. 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:34.720 And at that time, it's April, my daughter three years old. 1:30:34.760 --> 1:30:39.200 You're telling me I'm not making it to And then 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:41.200 when you go through all that, it's like, nah, I 1:30:41.240 --> 1:30:44.320 gotta put everything back in perspective. And I promised myself 1:30:44.360 --> 1:30:48.559 since twenty fifteen, I wouldn't deprive my fans. I wouldn't 1:30:48.640 --> 1:30:53.200 cheat myself. I wouldn't waste my time overthinking shit or 1:30:54.240 --> 1:30:56.960 holding the music hostage. You know what I'm saying a 1:30:57.000 --> 1:30:59.280 lot of times, as artists, we hold music hostage because 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:03.400 we playing so much. You're thinking, like, yo, I need 1:31:03.560 --> 1:31:06.439 I need somebody to push this man, push that shit yourself. 1:31:06.479 --> 1:31:08.800 You got Instagram, you got Twitter, you got stories, you 1:31:08.880 --> 1:31:13.240 got timelines. Be annoying, be annoying, Be like the bitches 1:31:13.280 --> 1:31:15.920 that be like, hey, follow my hot bestie and never 1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:20.240 met them bitches before, be like that. I know it 1:31:20.360 --> 1:31:25.040 sounds crazy, fellas, but the moment you swallow that pride 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:28.519 and you stop thinking like it's eight or twenty thirteen, 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:32.320 this shit is different. Man. People out here making all 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:35.880 sorts of money that don't have no hot music. Now. 1:31:36.000 --> 1:31:38.640 Not saying you need to put out bullshit music, but 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:44.720 this is the era of don't work harder, work smarter, man. 1:31:44.880 --> 1:31:48.080 Facts like I'm the king of working hard. I'm the 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:52.919 king of working super super hard. But somewhere not connecting 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.680 the dots because you so busy working hard, you so 1:31:55.880 --> 1:31:58.960 busy busting your ass working hard, you ain't connecting the 1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:01.080 dots with the work, you know what I'm saying. And 1:32:02.240 --> 1:32:04.360 that's where That's where I'm at with it. I don't 1:32:04.360 --> 1:32:05.840 know where a lot of other artists at with it, 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:09.880 but I feel like everything is different now. Man. We 1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:11.640 were talking about Tiger over there, and I was telling you, 1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:13.960 I remember when Tiger came out with the album Singing 1:32:14.000 --> 1:32:16.000 a few years ago. Now, everybody was laughing at him. 1:32:16.680 --> 1:32:20.800 Everybody was laughing at him. Ship said, dude, dude, and 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:24.120 he never looked back. Tiger had a rough patch. Man, 1:32:24.560 --> 1:32:27.920 we all do. I mean, like the thing is he 1:32:27.960 --> 1:32:31.679 gets just kept throwing up shots, and then the taste 1:32:31.880 --> 1:32:34.280 was I'm gonna say, some real ship. Man. I've been 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:36.680 in this game a long time. I know people may 1:32:36.760 --> 1:32:38.800 not realize it, they may not look at it like that, 1:32:39.360 --> 1:32:41.240 because I came into this ship young, and I done 1:32:41.320 --> 1:32:44.920 did battle solo ship young, money, shit and dependent ship 1:32:45.160 --> 1:32:46.880 ups and downs all that. I've been in this ship 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:52.320 two decades. When you in this game as long as 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:54.559 somebody like me or you got longevity in this ship 1:32:54.600 --> 1:32:58.600 and you learn how to stay afloat, you're gonna have 1:32:58.720 --> 1:33:01.200 some patches. Wheen shit get dropp. Of course, every one 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:04.560 of my favorite artists had a dry patch. Nas is 1:33:04.600 --> 1:33:09.240 one of my favorite artists. Not Stradamus album exists there, 1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:12.400 Project Windows was so. Jay Z is one of my 1:33:12.640 --> 1:33:18.080 favorite artists. The Kingdom Come album exists. I would I 1:33:18.160 --> 1:33:21.120 would argue Kingdom Comes in second words, it exists, you 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:23.599 know what I'm saying. Like, however, you want to look 1:33:23.640 --> 1:33:27.280 at it the same way, same way you said Carter 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:30.280 Fall it was cool, it wasn't cool. That might be your, 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:33.680 That might be your. It exists. There's a listen if 1:33:33.720 --> 1:33:36.160 I don't want to die, I tried it. It's a 1:33:36.240 --> 1:33:38.439 lot of I'm not diving down. Lil Wayne's had a 1:33:38.520 --> 1:33:42.040 rough decade. Yeah, it's a but you gotta think quality wise. 1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:45.080 Quarter three and then no Ceilings, and then after no Ceilings, 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:46.640 shit just went left. For me as a fan, I 1:33:46.760 --> 1:33:49.240 was like, all right, listen, yeah, but you gotta take 1:33:49.280 --> 1:33:51.000 the good with the bad, because if you're gonna take 1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:53.320 those four or five, then you gotta take the fifteen 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:56.720 before that that was a monumental. And now we gotta wait. 1:33:57.360 --> 1:33:59.519 We got to wait to Drought and Dedication one and 1:33:59.640 --> 1:34:02.320 dedicate I mean we got a way to card A 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:04.360 one to two to three. I just think back to 1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:09.320 like I Am not a human degrees? What was the 1:34:09.439 --> 1:34:14.040 rock star album we was doing? Rock music had dropped? 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:16.320 I remember that. I remember had dropped the world with 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:21.479 eminem which was a solid, solid song that hit number one. 1:34:22.760 --> 1:34:25.360 The album probably did Little Wayne could literally ship. That's 1:34:25.360 --> 1:34:29.000 what I mean. Did we listen to the Snoop Lion album? 1:34:29.800 --> 1:34:33.200 Did we listen to the Snoop Lion album? Of course? Not? Alright, 1:34:33.479 --> 1:34:37.640 listen to number one Everything's not for every No way 1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:39.679 the Snoop Dogg album was number one on the Gospel 1:34:39.720 --> 1:34:43.880 album hit, number one on the bill on the reggae chart. 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:47.000 Check it. Okay, wait wait wait what chart are we 1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:50.040 talking about here, because we're not talking about the overall Billboard. 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:52.160 All I'm telling you is, I'll give you ten thousand 1:34:52.160 --> 1:34:54.519 dollars right now if if Snoop Dog's had a number 1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:57.439 one overall album in the last seven years on Billboard, 1:34:58.600 --> 1:35:01.479 you don't think now, you don't think gospel chart, yes, 1:35:01.640 --> 1:35:05.000 because there's like two gospels. We move in the goal post. Now, 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:07.720 come on, no, you just moved a gold post. I'm 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:10.720 telling you. Everything's not for everybody. He might have been 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:14.240 number one on the reggae chart. That's number one, No, 1:35:14.400 --> 1:35:17.000 but not number one like number one it's number one. 1:35:17.080 --> 1:35:19.000 That's like saying I got a number one death metal 1:35:19.080 --> 1:35:21.080 song out right now, Like it's like yeah, but like 1:35:21.360 --> 1:35:25.400 it's number one. It's number one to somebody in the genre. No, 1:35:25.880 --> 1:35:28.439 you know what you just said. It's number one to somebody, 1:35:28.600 --> 1:35:30.200 may not be number one to you. They shout out 1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:32.400 to Wayne Man, shout out to Snoop too, shout shout 1:35:32.479 --> 1:35:36.439 the Snoop. But we're not slandering them. What We're basically 1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:40.160 saying is when you have longevity like a Wayne or Snoop, 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:44.040 you're gonna have some drop patches. Were you disappointed number 1:35:44.080 --> 1:35:48.920 Carter five? It was cool? It wasn't It wasn't the 1:35:49.040 --> 1:35:51.519 other Carters. It wasn't like Carter two. It wasn't like 1:35:51.600 --> 1:35:53.639 Carter three, it wasn't like Carter four. I actually think 1:35:53.640 --> 1:35:55.160 it was better than Carter four. But that's not saying 1:35:55.200 --> 1:35:57.360 much because I thought Cardi four was and now you see, 1:35:57.520 --> 1:36:00.479 but but that's you. I think Carter four better than 1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:04.280 Carter five. So because you were around like the Carter 1:36:04.400 --> 1:36:07.559 five ship. I know a lot of those songs were 1:36:07.600 --> 1:36:10.000 older obviously, but like how many I don't think I 1:36:10.120 --> 1:36:12.200 was around for Carter five. I don't know. You weren't 1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:13.879 around when it came out, but I mean like they 1:36:13.920 --> 1:36:16.280 had to be, like it changed so much, That's what 1:36:16.360 --> 1:36:18.679 I mean, because there was a change. It was supposed 1:36:18.680 --> 1:36:20.479 to come out for so long, and then he was 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:25.759 getting held against his will by baby Oh the free Wheezy. 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:30.080 I remember that he put that on the title. Yeah, man, 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:32.360 well shout out to it, shot through my man tune 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:34.800 and he worked through it. He worked through it, man, 1:36:35.040 --> 1:36:37.240 like That's That's one thing I will say about Wayne. 1:36:38.479 --> 1:36:40.960 He ain't never lay down, you know what I'm saying. 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:43.720 It's a lot of rappers that was out when he 1:36:43.880 --> 1:36:47.760 was out. They don't they laid down, you know what 1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:49.680 I'm saying. They threw the towel and they was like, 1:36:49.760 --> 1:36:51.680 fuck it. You know what I'm saying. He rapped through it. 1:36:51.840 --> 1:36:53.439 Even if it was some ship that you didn't want 1:36:53.439 --> 1:36:56.000 to hear, he rapped through it, you know what I'm saying. 1:36:56.080 --> 1:36:58.680 So everybody gonna have they dry spots. But I'll be 1:36:58.720 --> 1:37:02.120 feeling like I'm or for the comeback story. I'm more 1:37:02.200 --> 1:37:04.400 for like, damn, how did you bounce back off that ship? 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:08.000 Come on, man, they counted Drake out. Everybody was, oh, ship, 1:37:08.120 --> 1:37:11.559 you had a son? You fucking don't. It's because Drake 1:37:11.680 --> 1:37:15.559 lost the battle. I didn't. They counted. They counted Meek 1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:18.960 out too. Is that a world that they counted him out? 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:24.439 Everyone counted out your dub You got wat juice all over. 1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:26.479 This is true, and it changed. I remember seeing it 1:37:26.560 --> 1:37:29.479 in my own eyes, like and everything changed. I remember 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:32.800 people really trying to say, like Drake was done. I 1:37:32.880 --> 1:37:36.160 don't know about that. Drake got fried up. By it. 1:37:36.240 --> 1:37:39.479 I always that I was Drake. I was like I 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:41.559 was living out here. None of Drake's fans know who 1:37:41.600 --> 1:37:44.559 pushed it to you, I was living out here. They 1:37:44.800 --> 1:37:49.160 thought Aubrey was done in terms of that battle. He 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:54.040 was done. They thought Drake was done. They thought he 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:57.040 was done for And that was the only time he 1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:59.280 had any sort of stench. Well not the only time. 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:04.479 Shout to quintin that that that that was funny when 1:38:04.520 --> 1:38:08.639 he said, uh damn a nigga got points for saying 1:38:08.680 --> 1:38:14.640 I had a son, My points for saying who my 1:38:14.760 --> 1:38:19.920 girl was Drake definitively And you know what happened after that. 1:38:20.080 --> 1:38:22.960 He took the L and then God's plan came. Of course, 1:38:23.320 --> 1:38:27.120 that's not an L in that specific battle. Now, look, 1:38:27.120 --> 1:38:28.479 I'm not because I don't want to shoot on push 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:30.360 your tea because I'm not. I'm not. I don't have 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:32.760 anything to do with that anymore. But push a push 1:38:32.800 --> 1:38:35.759 a put put through that out. If Drake never even replied, 1:38:35.880 --> 1:38:38.320 I could take if I could take that, if I 1:38:38.360 --> 1:38:42.040 could take that one, if that's the last high point 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:44.759 that we have for pushing tea, Oh, come on, Daytona 1:38:44.840 --> 1:38:47.559 came out after that. I said it's a classic album. 1:38:47.640 --> 1:38:49.719 But you're not talking to me about a classic album 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:53.559 right now. You're talking to me about a verse over 1:38:53.560 --> 1:38:56.639 a jay Z beat, which was a little light something 1:38:56.760 --> 1:38:59.360 and so light. And then I'm telling you, and then 1:38:59.520 --> 1:39:03.160 God's Plan came out, and then we forgot about anything 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:05.559 that had to do with Push your Tea. Now I'm 1:39:05.600 --> 1:39:07.920 saying as far as Drake go, because I can't, just 1:39:08.479 --> 1:39:10.360 because because I gotta keep this a buck right now, 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:12.200 I can't shoot on Push your Tea, like push your 1:39:12.240 --> 1:39:15.200 Tea career, don't take my career and like put his 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:17.679 foot on it and like move it around a little 1:39:17.680 --> 1:39:19.439 bit like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm a realist, 1:39:19.560 --> 1:39:21.720 but I'm also going to be a realist and tell 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:26.720 you after that high point for Push your Tea, I 1:39:26.800 --> 1:39:29.960 don't remember. Look, and somebody might be like Mills, I 1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:32.880 don't remember how point from you ever shut I get 1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:35.840 it technically came out. We just haven't. We just haven't 1:39:35.880 --> 1:39:45.040 regular just regular conversation. Yeah, listen, long time, but look, 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:47.639 but look, look, because I love Drake man, I love Drake. 1:39:48.080 --> 1:39:50.679 Anything with young money involved, I'm taking the young money side. 1:39:50.680 --> 1:39:56.040 I don't give a fuck Drake did ordered a microphone 1:39:56.800 --> 1:40:01.400 with push your T's autograph on it back in the days. Yeah, 1:40:01.439 --> 1:40:03.960 because I remember when I seen that and I was like, 1:40:04.040 --> 1:40:06.000 you might, you might. That was like a bad one, 1:40:06.479 --> 1:40:08.200 but then you know, but then that turns out, that 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:10.960 turns into like the super senior's still bothering the freshman. 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.680 It's like, Bro, go to college. I push it's that guy, Bro, 1:40:13.840 --> 1:40:18.240 Now push it. Look listen, Push your te is undeniably literally, 1:40:18.280 --> 1:40:21.479 it's probably not impossible for Drake to like lose in 1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:24.880 the grand scheme of things because he's the biggest ever. Look, people, 1:40:25.080 --> 1:40:29.599 you can no, you can't lose. You can lose because people. 1:40:29.760 --> 1:40:32.679 You you have people that will say, now Drake lost 1:40:32.720 --> 1:40:34.360 that battle. Then you have people that say you won 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:36.920 the battle. You got people saying he won the battle. 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:40.680 You literally have people that they're like twelve year old 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:43.439 white kids who don't know what what what see? But 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:44.960 see what you know what you're saying right now? You 1:40:45.120 --> 1:40:47.479 move in the goal post. The goal post is who 1:40:47.680 --> 1:40:49.960 cares how old they are. There are people that will 1:40:50.000 --> 1:40:53.760 say ether was whack because they are jay Z stands. 1:40:54.000 --> 1:40:56.680 First of all, I'm a no stand, I'm a nod stand. Too, 1:40:56.760 --> 1:40:59.360 and you're knock. My favorite me to beat was Whack. 1:40:59.439 --> 1:41:03.120 But also, I mean you know what Ether was before that? Yeah? Okay, 1:41:03.439 --> 1:41:10.920 so listen in retrospect. In retrospect, say it takeover? Was it? 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:13.880 Say no no? But Takeover wasn't a special it was 1:41:14.280 --> 1:41:18.599 There was a NOAs line in there. Right. If we're 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:23.280 talking about which song is better sonically to listen to, 1:41:24.800 --> 1:41:28.680 why does he move the gold? Because Ether is a 1:41:28.800 --> 1:41:32.400 better disc record but the but which song is better 1:41:32.439 --> 1:41:34.000 to listen to it? I didn't ask you which song 1:41:34.080 --> 1:41:37.160 was better? I said who lost jay Z? And I 1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:39.400 said there are people like you who still say but 1:41:39.520 --> 1:41:45.000 the better than the It's almost like when you watched 1:41:45.080 --> 1:41:46.600 Belly as a kid and you were like, Yo, this 1:41:46.640 --> 1:41:48.240 ship is fire. But then you watch it as a 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:50.479 grown ass man and you like the last twenty minutes 1:41:50.520 --> 1:41:52.320 and you're life watch But it's really a good movie. 1:41:52.360 --> 1:41:53.920 If you've been hustling and you went out of town 1:41:54.000 --> 1:41:56.160 and you got money and you had to drive around 1:41:56.200 --> 1:41:58.240 and intrepid and a nigga snitched on you, and then 1:41:58.280 --> 1:41:59.920 you was getting money and then you had to you 1:42:00.120 --> 1:42:03.320 did that before, is a great movie. It's I don't 1:42:03.320 --> 1:42:05.320 know if you did that before. I don't know. You 1:42:05.439 --> 1:42:11.479 keep saying that. There's people that say, y'all, y'all really 1:42:11.600 --> 1:42:12.720 like push your tea in the I don't like to 1:42:12.720 --> 1:42:15.680 push your tea too. I love the album, Like what 1:42:15.760 --> 1:42:20.519 are you talking about? So? Who won the battle? The 1:42:20.640 --> 1:42:25.080 overall battle? No? Or the four four four Freestyle and 1:42:25.240 --> 1:42:27.479 the other ship? Like the other ship for them? I 1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:30.760 like four Freestyle because it had I didn't. We didn't 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:32.400 know he had a son. And you think Drake should 1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:36.519 have should have replied. I think that would have been 1:42:36.560 --> 1:42:38.400 good for Rap. I think that would have been good 1:42:38.400 --> 1:42:40.439 for Rap if you apply. I think it was a 1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:42.479 bad look that he didn't reply, and it was a 1:42:42.560 --> 1:42:46.040 bad look that he wasn't that similar to did Meek reply, Well, no, 1:42:46.160 --> 1:42:49.200 Meek didn't need a reply because Jesus Christ. His reply 1:42:49.280 --> 1:42:52.200 to Fucking Back to Back was atrocious. It was he 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:56.000 ruined the Undertaker's theme song. It was really bad. It 1:42:56.120 --> 1:42:58.760 was over. It was like, okay, dude, Drake just hits 1:42:58.760 --> 1:43:00.800 you with two of them brouh and then you coming 1:43:00.880 --> 1:43:03.560 back with this bullshit. But but see on top of 1:43:03.640 --> 1:43:06.320 that and listen with me. But I and and and 1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:07.960 and I'm not the biggest Drake fan in the world, 1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:11.200 but he undoubtedly beat the ship out of Meek milling 1:43:11.240 --> 1:43:14.400 that it was. It wasn't even a fucking question. It 1:43:14.560 --> 1:43:17.439 was really sad. I remember We're in Tampa and I 1:43:17.600 --> 1:43:19.160 was just sitting there, like, man, it might really be 1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:22.080 over for Meek Man because this was when he was 1:43:22.160 --> 1:43:25.840 on Twitter tweet because that's when you know what he 1:43:26.000 --> 1:43:27.880 was like what he had the Trump Twitter fingers and 1:43:27.960 --> 1:43:29.760 you know what it be sometimes too. You know it'd 1:43:29.760 --> 1:43:34.640 be sometimes too. Sometimes you can dig a hole with 1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:39.320 uh the fans. I know this from battling like you 1:43:39.400 --> 1:43:41.240 could talk so much ship that they want to see 1:43:41.280 --> 1:43:44.280 you lose. Like I think that's what happened with Meek 1:43:45.080 --> 1:43:48.479 like Drake, not to say like back to back, but listen, 1:43:48.880 --> 1:43:52.120 Meek jumped out though yeah he was talking crazy you 1:43:52.360 --> 1:43:54.479 you you you made it with Drake looked like he 1:43:54.680 --> 1:43:58.280 was countering. So you made people be like, you made 1:43:58.280 --> 1:44:01.360 people pick sides, you made them be like, now we 1:44:01.640 --> 1:44:05.439 like him more than you. Even if you're right, you 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:08.160 know what I'm saying, if you've given us you know 1:44:08.240 --> 1:44:10.720 what to go back to the Kanye jay Z ship, 1:44:10.800 --> 1:44:13.600 even if you're giving us evidence and you're right, we 1:44:13.920 --> 1:44:18.280 don't care. That's what I've seen at that time, and 1:44:18.320 --> 1:44:24.640 I think we don't give a fuck. We still like 1:44:24.760 --> 1:44:26.760 him more than you, and that's I think that's when 1:44:26.800 --> 1:44:29.400 it was just like, hold up, he don't write. He 1:44:29.400 --> 1:44:32.720 didn't write that ship though, so we don't care. I 1:44:32.760 --> 1:44:36.120 ain't need one dance and we're gonna say those songs too. Hey, 1:44:36.200 --> 1:44:38.720 back to back was crazy. The fact that you had 1:44:38.720 --> 1:44:40.439 to go to a night club for an X amount 1:44:40.439 --> 1:44:43.519 of years and hear the disc song in every club 1:44:44.080 --> 1:44:46.320 for two years straight. That ship was I'm a I'm 1:44:46.360 --> 1:44:49.360 a fan. I'm a fan of all of the disrecord ship. 1:44:49.360 --> 1:44:51.720 That's why I like this type of conversation, whether it's Pushers, 1:44:51.840 --> 1:44:57.200 Drake Drake or Knives or whole no, whoever you I 1:44:57.240 --> 1:44:58.760 don't care if you want to talk about Kim and 1:44:58.880 --> 1:45:02.320 fifty close beef though, Beanie Seagull and Jada, Yo, how 1:45:02.360 --> 1:45:05.800 did you take that? Look a here? Why this nigga 1:45:05.840 --> 1:45:08.680 took it here? Earnt my spot? Ain't nobody put me 1:45:08.760 --> 1:45:12.360 here closest you hear the Beanie shit and the Jada shit, 1:45:12.400 --> 1:45:16.000 You're like, oh, so now this conversation is going somewhere 1:45:16.000 --> 1:45:20.760 else that was a time of like that was like 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:24.160 a real time of like niggas study and like them disraps. 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:26.439 When I'm talking about the cruise, I was talking about 1:45:27.560 --> 1:45:31.400 d Block and dipseid g Unit, State Property. I remember 1:45:31.560 --> 1:45:34.240 that beef. That beef went for a long time. That 1:45:34.320 --> 1:45:37.599 beef went from DJ Clue mixtapes to State Property. Would 1:45:37.640 --> 1:45:39.280 drive from Philly to New York and go up the 1:45:39.320 --> 1:45:42.040 funk Master Flex and rap for a hour. Fuck SPJ 1:45:42.240 --> 1:45:44.479 Hood died to looking out for Nazi a nigga. When 1:45:44.520 --> 1:45:48.160 I find you, I'm like, whoa, Like they're from Philly. 1:45:48.960 --> 1:45:51.280 They're at the radio station on Hudson Street. Right now. 1:45:52.680 --> 1:45:55.760 This is live. This isn't like a pre recorded thing. 1:45:55.880 --> 1:45:59.439 And then like two days later kissing them or come 1:45:59.479 --> 1:46:01.320 up there stay. I was to come out with some ship. 1:46:01.400 --> 1:46:03.160 Fuck Beanie Siegel. He could suck my dick with the 1:46:03.200 --> 1:46:06.680 ship up on it. WHOA, whoa? What did he just say? 1:46:07.240 --> 1:46:08.960 They got to see each other at some point, you 1:46:09.000 --> 1:46:11.760 know what I'm saying. So that's why when I think 1:46:11.800 --> 1:46:14.720 about like the new beefs and it's like somebody might 1:46:14.800 --> 1:46:16.840 put out a freestyle and in this one put out 1:46:16.880 --> 1:46:20.800 like nah, this ship went from Powerhouse to live performances 1:46:20.840 --> 1:46:23.240 the niggas throwing French fries at niggas on that stage. 1:46:23.720 --> 1:46:28.960 Came out that see that's different than you freestyle over 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:30.920 somebody beat and you put it out and deer what 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:34.439 you're saying With that being said, that was gra replied 1:46:35.160 --> 1:46:38.240 he I wanted him to the white flag and said, 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:41.240 shit got too real, guys. I wanted to reply, you know, 1:46:41.400 --> 1:46:42.800 I think that would have got bad because I think 1:46:42.880 --> 1:46:44.800 at some point Drake would have started saying, like which 1:46:44.800 --> 1:46:46.880 people wives he fucked and stuff like that. I think 1:46:46.920 --> 1:46:49.080 it would have gotten bad because pusha t had like 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:52.760 five or six records just waiting for this for like, 1:46:53.040 --> 1:46:54.760 you want to know what's crazy? I said that, and 1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:59.519 everybody in the room face it because Drake everyone's wives, 1:47:00.040 --> 1:47:03.320 because that could have got so bad. That could have 1:47:03.360 --> 1:47:06.560 gotten so that could have gotten so bad, like that 1:47:06.640 --> 1:47:09.240 could have got so bad of the like, oh, you 1:47:09.360 --> 1:47:14.400 think people write for me? I wrote for him? You 1:47:14.439 --> 1:47:18.120 talk about Kanye? Think who gives everyone knows con Ryan 1:47:18.200 --> 1:47:22.559 ft and said, Ryan Fest wrote, Jesus, well, why are 1:47:22.600 --> 1:47:24.960 you so quick to tell me when somebody wrote for Kanye? 1:47:25.160 --> 1:47:27.160 But you wasn't quick to tell me what Kanye wrote 1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:32.400 for jay Z. Kanye is my favorite artist ever. Listen, 1:47:32.840 --> 1:47:34.880 what I'm saying is Kanye is my favorite artist, but 1:47:36.320 --> 1:47:38.599 MC is nos on. My favorite overall artist is Kanye. 1:47:38.640 --> 1:47:41.960 But you're not You're overlooking. You're overlooking the same thing 1:47:42.040 --> 1:47:44.120 that you would put on him that he's did for 1:47:44.240 --> 1:47:48.000 other people. Because I never I don't, I don't think people, 1:47:48.640 --> 1:47:51.559 how can we How can you just Drake for having 1:47:51.760 --> 1:47:54.120 no no, not you, but just I'm just thinking, how 1:47:54.800 --> 1:47:58.120 could you dis Drake for having a ghost writer If 1:47:58.160 --> 1:48:03.360 the person you're assigned to he writes for, that's weird. 1:48:03.439 --> 1:48:06.960 This is all weird. Like we're talking, we're talking. What 1:48:07.080 --> 1:48:08.760 are we're talking? Gnis, you don't even know what you 1:48:08.800 --> 1:48:13.080 want to say. He's a gladiator. He's a Jedi when 1:48:13.160 --> 1:48:15.639 it comes to this rap ship. He's a fucking Jedi. 1:48:16.040 --> 1:48:17.960 You don't even know what you want to say. Right now, 1:48:18.000 --> 1:48:20.599 I'm saying, we moved the goal post for certain People's 1:48:21.680 --> 1:48:24.880 nothing to do with this. He has everything to do 1:48:25.040 --> 1:48:27.600 with this. Push your Teas hated Drake before he was 1:48:28.120 --> 1:48:32.080 bro I'm not even talking about pushing Tea. What are 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:35.360 we I'm just talking about Drake and the ghost writing thing. 1:48:36.760 --> 1:48:39.680 Kanye has everything to do with it. Don't care that 1:48:40.280 --> 1:48:44.120 ghost ghost writers that people could say wrote for ya 1:48:44.439 --> 1:48:47.280 or wrote for this one. I could turn around and say, 1:48:47.640 --> 1:48:51.200 but yay wrote for jay Z. If we're gonna do that, okay, 1:48:51.280 --> 1:48:53.920 So now we gotta say jay Z has ghost writers, 1:48:54.600 --> 1:48:58.720 and that's a whole different conversation. But we don't want 1:48:58.760 --> 1:49:01.600 to have that conversation. Don't want to. I want to 1:49:01.960 --> 1:49:04.240 do business with rock Nation and Title, so I don't 1:49:04.280 --> 1:49:06.639 want to have this conversation. But I have to keep 1:49:06.680 --> 1:49:11.439 it real and tell you that I have footage and 1:49:11.600 --> 1:49:15.280 evidence that Kanye West came in the studio and gave 1:49:15.360 --> 1:49:18.920 him a song, a hook, and a bridge. I gotta 1:49:19.040 --> 1:49:21.680 get these devils out my life. That's Kanye. I'm from 1:49:21.680 --> 1:49:26.400 the murder capital where we murder for that's Kanye, loser 1:49:26.479 --> 1:49:29.360 for louserf I did the beat that I gave you, 1:49:29.479 --> 1:49:32.479 that I wrote that for you. That's no different than 1:49:32.520 --> 1:49:36.320 with Quentin Miller differs. I don't disagree, But so jay 1:49:36.400 --> 1:49:39.360 Z don't got ghost writers. Blame me. The Kanye reference 1:49:40.160 --> 1:49:42.000 it's in Fade the Black movie. You want me to 1:49:42.040 --> 1:49:43.680 find a time stip for you? I know it's in there. 1:49:43.680 --> 1:49:45.240 I remember I have the movie on DVD. I could go. 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:46.960 You just don't want we don't want to accept that. 1:49:47.600 --> 1:49:50.120 I fuck that shit, right, Like, this is what I 1:49:50.120 --> 1:49:52.160 would say. I think Drake is one of the greatest 1:49:52.280 --> 1:49:55.439 artists that shit. Fuck that ship. I don't put Kanye 1:49:55.560 --> 1:49:59.000 nor Drake in the top MC's like like top ten, 1:49:59.439 --> 1:50:02.920 you can put them top artists exactly now we're talking 1:50:02.960 --> 1:50:04.760 about like MC ship like, I can't put them in 1:50:04.840 --> 1:50:09.680 that because because it is very very come on man, 1:50:11.240 --> 1:50:14.040 that fucking on crowd in two thousand and one. But 1:50:14.320 --> 1:50:17.439 Kanye wrote for him on him Black album, a couple 1:50:17.479 --> 1:50:20.599 of lines on a beat that he had brought to him. 1:50:20.640 --> 1:50:21.680 No no no no no no no no no no. 1:50:22.040 --> 1:50:25.479 He gave him a bridge, a hook and lines, and 1:50:25.640 --> 1:50:28.920 jay Z went in in and said it word for word. Now, 1:50:28.960 --> 1:50:31.720 I don't want to say I will get I don't 1:50:31.760 --> 1:50:34.559 want to say. I don't want to say Kanye wrote 1:50:34.600 --> 1:50:37.559 for jay Z. But if we're gonna move the gold 1:50:37.640 --> 1:50:42.040 post for certain people, you gotta keep it a buck. 1:50:42.439 --> 1:50:44.400 We gotta we gotta keep it a buck. Jay Z 1:50:44.560 --> 1:50:47.760 wrote for Bugs Bunny on the Space, jay Z wrote 1:50:47.800 --> 1:50:50.120 for Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg. I'm aware, but we 1:50:50.280 --> 1:50:52.800 won't say. But we won't say Snoop had ghost writers 1:50:52.880 --> 1:50:55.000 until Snoop came out a couple of weeks ago and said, 1:50:55.040 --> 1:50:58.000 hell yeah, he wrote that ship for me. Yeah, but again, 1:50:59.280 --> 1:51:01.280 why we don't how we don't look at it like that? 1:51:02.120 --> 1:51:04.080 And I love all these people. I'm not shitting on them. 1:51:04.080 --> 1:51:06.519 I'm just trying to play Devil's advocate. Like if jay 1:51:06.600 --> 1:51:08.840 Z could tell me, I mean, if Snoop could tell 1:51:08.840 --> 1:51:10.760 me that jay Z wrote Still dr E and like, 1:51:10.800 --> 1:51:12.160 hell ya, that shit was banging. So I said, I 1:51:12.160 --> 1:51:14.320 won't say that. Let me I say that shit. And 1:51:14.439 --> 1:51:16.519 then I could tell you Kanye gave jay Z some 1:51:16.560 --> 1:51:21.120 shit he's not, I said, Snoop, while you overlook that, 1:51:21.520 --> 1:51:24.639 you good man, You've been in this journalism shit too, Snoop. 1:51:24.640 --> 1:51:28.599 If we're talking about Snoop, Snoop also somebody who openly 1:51:28.680 --> 1:51:32.040 admits to freestyling at this point, and they got to 1:51:32.120 --> 1:51:34.080 do with other people writing for you and has also 1:51:34.160 --> 1:51:36.519 openly admitted what does that have to do with jay Z? Right? 1:51:36.560 --> 1:51:39.679 And are we putting Snoop Dogg in the top ten discussion? 1:51:39.760 --> 1:51:41.560 He's top twenty, But I wouldn't put him in the 1:51:41.600 --> 1:51:45.519 top ten, top ten? What MC's who was doing top anything? 1:51:45.600 --> 1:51:47.880 Right now? Talking to MC, I'm just talking about you know, 1:51:48.120 --> 1:51:51.240 you're talking MC's, we're talking about ghostwriters. You you just 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:53.880 made a whole different conversation for us to talk about. 1:51:54.080 --> 1:51:56.360 Now we're talking Top twenty. So Snoop not top ten, 1:51:56.800 --> 1:52:01.800 no top ten? What MC's So what is Snoop? If 1:52:01.840 --> 1:52:03.519 he if he could freestyle off the top of his head, 1:52:03.760 --> 1:52:06.200 top twenty, I think I think I think it's doggy. 1:52:06.479 --> 1:52:12.160 I think Snoop's discography doggy style. Dog Father here is 1:52:12.200 --> 1:52:15.680 the biggest rapper ever that you're probably right about. I 1:52:15.760 --> 1:52:17.800 didn't say he's the best or the greatest. I said 1:52:17.800 --> 1:52:20.240 he's the biggest rapper ever. He has the biggest debut. 1:52:20.360 --> 1:52:26.040 He got one of the longest illustrious career. He done 1:52:26.320 --> 1:52:28.519 had his dry patch. He had his dry patch when 1:52:28.560 --> 1:52:29.920 nobody was fucking with him and he had to go 1:52:29.960 --> 1:52:33.160 to New Orleans and he bounced back. You know what 1:52:33.160 --> 1:52:34.760 I'm saying. He did have a dry patch, just like 1:52:35.040 --> 1:52:37.160 Doctor Dre had a dry patch. But I've been there 1:52:37.160 --> 1:52:40.160 and I've done this. Dog Father. What he did was 1:52:40.400 --> 1:52:42.400 he put out one album I didn't say they don't. 1:52:42.400 --> 1:52:44.320 I said he had a draft patch. But his first 1:52:44.360 --> 1:52:47.080 album was No Limit. I said, that fucking air ball. 1:52:47.320 --> 1:52:51.280 I said, but that's the dry patch. But that was 1:52:51.720 --> 1:52:53.920 that was with New Orleans. That was with no limit. No, 1:52:54.000 --> 1:52:55.600 he got with no limit because he was in the 1:52:55.640 --> 1:52:57.960 studio doing a verse for Mystical for thirty five hundred 1:52:58.000 --> 1:53:03.240 dollars that had no fucking That is a did you 1:53:03.280 --> 1:53:06.000 hear what I just said, Snoop Dogg got with no Limit. 1:53:06.280 --> 1:53:09.479 You said he was in the studio doing a feature 1:53:09.720 --> 1:53:13.320 with Mystical for thirty five hundred dollars. He said, he 1:53:13.479 --> 1:53:15.680 was fucked up, and Masterpiece said, you know what, I'm 1:53:15.680 --> 1:53:17.479 gonna give you thirty five thousand, and I'm gonna go 1:53:17.520 --> 1:53:19.720 meet with sug Knight. He was. That was a dry 1:53:19.840 --> 1:53:22.920 spot before No Limit. Okay, are we talking about financial 1:53:23.000 --> 1:53:26.080 dry spots or or quality of music dry spots? He 1:53:26.120 --> 1:53:28.400 didn't have nothing going, That's why he was doing it. 1:53:28.720 --> 1:53:31.479 I mean dry spot. He had doggy style, he had 1:53:31.520 --> 1:53:33.760 dog father. No, I'm telling there was no No. I'm 1:53:33.800 --> 1:53:35.640 telling you what Snoop Dogg said. I'm not telling you 1:53:35.720 --> 1:53:37.320 what I think. I'm telling you that. He said he 1:53:37.439 --> 1:53:40.280 was in the financial dry spot because Sugar Knight was 1:53:40.280 --> 1:53:42.599 probably no, I don't have nothing. I don't have no deal. 1:53:42.840 --> 1:53:44.640 I'm fucked up. I need you to come get me 1:53:44.840 --> 1:53:47.040 out of my deal. This is my dry spot. I 1:53:47.120 --> 1:53:49.640 am in a deal with a gang member. It's a 1:53:49.720 --> 1:53:51.760 lot bigger than me, and I can't do shit. That's 1:53:51.800 --> 1:53:54.360 why I'm here doing this verse for thirty five hundred. 1:53:54.600 --> 1:53:57.280 And I have an album called Doggie Style, and I'm 1:53:57.320 --> 1:53:59.640 here doing a verse for thirty five hundred for Mystical. 1:54:00.320 --> 1:54:02.679 That's a draft spot. That's that was before No Limit. 1:54:02.920 --> 1:54:05.800 That's a draft spot. But he bounced back. He bounced 1:54:05.840 --> 1:54:09.439 back from that. So that's just I'm talking about this 1:54:09.560 --> 1:54:12.519 quality of music wise dry spots. Yeah, you had a 1:54:12.560 --> 1:54:16.200 dray spot there too. Oh, definitely. Every everybody has draft spots. Man. 1:54:16.360 --> 1:54:18.639 That that's that's I can't sit up here and say 1:54:18.640 --> 1:54:22.519 I can't name one artist that had a full career 1:54:22.840 --> 1:54:26.720 of You could have said Kanye until fucking this old 1:54:26.800 --> 1:54:29.280 Jesus King came out. That just fuck it was a 1:54:29.439 --> 1:54:33.160 fuck it that was atrocious. You think Jesus King was 1:54:33.200 --> 1:54:36.560 the first one? Uh, I mean personally, Jesus was was 1:54:36.600 --> 1:54:39.040 the one Jesus has changed sonics and music. I didn't 1:54:39.040 --> 1:54:41.240 ask you that. I said the one yes I listened 1:54:41.240 --> 1:54:44.120 to and Heartbreaks changed the sonics and music. I think 1:54:44.160 --> 1:54:46.080 you're a couple of albums late with the Jesus. First 1:54:46.120 --> 1:54:48.600 of all, sir, relaxed. I'm just telling you wanna find 1:54:48.600 --> 1:54:50.800 a bigger Kanye fan in the world than me. Second 1:54:50.840 --> 1:54:53.680 of all, that's what will me. Kanye literally has changed 1:54:53.720 --> 1:55:00.240 it over and over as and Heartbreaks made Drake possible. Okay, so, 1:55:00.720 --> 1:55:04.120 but but Jesus did the same thing for Travis, for 1:55:04.240 --> 1:55:07.080 all these people. Like the sonics that Kanye brought into 1:55:07.200 --> 1:55:11.280 hip hop on Jesus was crazy, bro, Jesus is that ship? Yes? 1:55:12.200 --> 1:55:14.400 You don't think Travis Scott was already making that sound. 1:55:14.520 --> 1:55:17.240 Travis Scott was working with Kanye on Yees. Travis Scott 1:55:17.280 --> 1:55:20.680 was on Grand Hustle. No ship, but no, but Travis 1:55:20.680 --> 1:55:24.680 Scott was worked on Jesus with Kanye. He also was 1:55:24.720 --> 1:55:27.760 on Grand Hustle before he met Kanye. I underware he 1:55:27.880 --> 1:55:29.360 was doing songs with Young Thug and all that when 1:55:29.400 --> 1:55:33.040 he had Little Twists. That was on days before Rodeo. 1:55:33.200 --> 1:55:35.440 I know, but but that was we're talking about before 1:55:35.560 --> 1:55:37.520 what you're talking about. I'm telling you that that sound 1:55:37.640 --> 1:55:40.160 was around before Kanye. He didn't bring it anywhere. Somebody 1:55:40.240 --> 1:55:43.400 bought it. You know what he did speak He sampled 1:55:43.400 --> 1:55:46.280 Travis Scott. You know, Waits and Heartbreaks wasn't a sound 1:55:46.320 --> 1:55:48.800 that he brought to us. Neither Kid Cut He brought 1:55:48.840 --> 1:55:52.800 it to him. Bro and Wayne was already doing love 1:55:52.880 --> 1:55:56.800 Lockdown came. What Kanye does is he sampled. He samples 1:55:56.880 --> 1:56:00.200 people's creative. He sampled Kid Cuddy as a huge human 1:56:00.280 --> 1:56:04.040 being for Awaits and Heartbreaks. Jay Z sampled all of 1:56:04.040 --> 1:56:07.240 the Philly niggas Flow too, definitely. Oh yeah, young, I 1:56:07.360 --> 1:56:09.760 was just talking about you swiped it. You want to say, 1:56:09.760 --> 1:56:11.400 sample or swipe? Which one we're gonna use? But the 1:56:11.480 --> 1:56:13.440 problem is is that those guys were in the studie. 1:56:13.480 --> 1:56:16.160 Kid Cuddy was there for Awaits and Harbor right and 1:56:16.560 --> 1:56:18.640 Scott was there for years. And I swiped that and 1:56:18.720 --> 1:56:20.880 I took it to a bigger level. Exactly. I didn't 1:56:20.920 --> 1:56:23.800 create it. I didn't say created said that that album 1:56:23.840 --> 1:56:27.200 made it J Dilla sound. I'm not into the I 1:56:27.280 --> 1:56:30.200 don't like I swiped it. It was hot and I 1:56:30.440 --> 1:56:33.879 swiped it. Was in Atlanta, it was hot. The difference. 1:56:34.480 --> 1:56:37.600 I'm not that, I'm not that I'm a creative. He did, 1:56:37.760 --> 1:56:40.360 I know a sound he was always gonna give Kanye. 1:56:40.560 --> 1:56:43.240 Kanye was heavily influenced by Cutting on a Ways and Heartbreaks, 1:56:43.280 --> 1:56:44.880 but cut. He was a part of that fucking album. 1:56:45.040 --> 1:56:49.480 He was heavily and was in the studio. He was heavy, alright, 1:56:49.800 --> 1:56:53.560 He was heavily and it was by Travis. Song like 1:56:53.840 --> 1:56:57.400 Day and Night from Kanye until Kid Cuddy was with 1:56:57.840 --> 1:56:59.840 we never heard and I can't stop winning. I can't 1:57:00.160 --> 1:57:04.320 we ned vibe from Kanye until so we can't say 1:57:04.920 --> 1:57:06.760 he did that. We all know that he did do 1:57:06.840 --> 1:57:08.480 It was a cutty thing. What do you mean he 1:57:08.560 --> 1:57:10.760 did it all of it. Yes, it was a cutty 1:57:10.840 --> 1:57:14.880 thing that Kanye did and did it ten times. Scott. No, no, 1:57:15.160 --> 1:57:18.360 So you're not you're telling me. You're telling me Kid Cuddy. 1:57:18.480 --> 1:57:22.120 It's not Travis West. You're telling Travis Scott for Kid Cuddy. 1:57:22.360 --> 1:57:26.360 It's okay. So they're his kids, they're his kids. Don't know. 1:57:26.360 --> 1:57:28.880 Cuddy's one of the most influential artists ever and Kanye 1:57:29.000 --> 1:57:30.640 is too. I'm not taking out away, but you got 1:57:30.760 --> 1:57:33.960 a credit due you think Kid Cuddy puts out a 1:57:34.040 --> 1:57:36.360 kid named Cuddy mixtape which was My Ship, which was 1:57:36.440 --> 1:57:40.440 like his first tape that everyone jumped on. And if 1:57:40.520 --> 1:57:43.920 it don't, if Kanye don't get behind Cuddi's moved like else. 1:57:44.160 --> 1:57:47.800 No know, what I'm saying is Kanye executed. He brought 1:57:47.880 --> 1:57:50.040 them dudes in the studio and they bought the sound. 1:57:50.200 --> 1:57:53.160 They bought that and he knocked out the park. No, 1:57:53.320 --> 1:57:56.840 you swiped because your sound is J Dilla backpack. Your 1:57:56.960 --> 1:57:58.720 sound ain't I got brought in that limb. Yeah, but 1:57:58.720 --> 1:58:01.280 see that's not even hits. In the graduation, he was 1:58:01.320 --> 1:58:03.840 sampling Daft punk and Ship. Like every single Kanye album 1:58:03.920 --> 1:58:06.320 sonically grows and is different. If you go to college dropout, 1:58:06.360 --> 1:58:08.800 you can say that Ja dealer ship, but you go 1:58:08.880 --> 1:58:12.200 to a registration, it's difficult that come around him is 1:58:12.320 --> 1:58:16.160 the sound. That's That's what I said, Kanye. He came 1:58:16.240 --> 1:58:19.600 around Kanye samples people. And once again, I don't want 1:58:19.600 --> 1:58:22.240 anybody think I just like having conversation about this is 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:25.960 just regular conversation. You don't want every single Kanye album. 1:58:26.040 --> 1:58:29.240 I'm a fan of Yay. I have every single Kanye album. 1:58:29.240 --> 1:58:33.120 I'm saying, like every album is different, sonically Kanye way 1:58:33.240 --> 1:58:35.040 before a lot of this ship, like He's give me 1:58:35.040 --> 1:58:38.920 beat CDs. So I'm a Kanye West fucking fanatic. We 1:58:39.000 --> 1:58:41.240 sat up here last week and I told you, niggas 1:58:41.280 --> 1:58:46.040 like Yay Cole krit Russ, I'm fanatics of this That's 1:58:46.080 --> 1:58:48.080 what That's where I'm at with it. But that being said, 1:58:48.480 --> 1:58:50.800 I this all went back to you saying, do I 1:58:50.840 --> 1:58:54.040 think Jesus was that ship? One hundred percent front to back, 1:58:54.360 --> 1:58:58.760 zero skips? That ship is a classic. No, I didn't 1:58:58.760 --> 1:59:01.000 know Bound was on that album. I remember the video 1:59:01.120 --> 1:59:03.080 for Bound came. I said, you did. You didn't make 1:59:03.080 --> 1:59:04.880 it all the way to the end of the album. No, 1:59:05.000 --> 1:59:06.960 I'm not even gonna lie. Come on, man, and I'm 1:59:07.000 --> 1:59:10.640 a yeasy fan. I'm a blood on the leaves, blood 1:59:10.680 --> 1:59:14.640 on the leaves, all that hold my liquor. This ship 1:59:15.280 --> 1:59:18.080 Come on with Chief Keith Dog come about. That ship 1:59:18.240 --> 1:59:26.120 is crazy. Covall, Bro, Black skin Head is crazy. You're tripping, bro. 1:59:26.200 --> 1:59:30.040 That should not graduation, that should not live registration hereak. 1:59:30.560 --> 1:59:33.200 It's definitely better than Life of Pablo. That shit. Ain't 1:59:33.240 --> 1:59:35.320 none of them albums better than Life of Poplo whoa 1:59:36.760 --> 1:59:42.200 Jesus no more? No? More parties, Jesus thirty hours. Come on, bro, 1:59:42.680 --> 1:59:44.560 you wild right now? Man? I love it. I love 1:59:44.640 --> 1:59:46.720 we Kanye for now. We go about this forever. If 1:59:46.760 --> 1:59:49.440 you're gonna tell I love the life that camera and 1:59:49.840 --> 1:59:53.720 tell the world that Yeesus is better than Life for Pop. 1:59:54.480 --> 1:59:57.000 Jesus is definitively better than the life of Pop. Can 1:59:57.040 --> 1:59:58.800 somebody raised their hand in his room? It's four people 1:59:58.840 --> 2:00:01.640 in here? Can somebody what are we doing right now? 2:00:01.920 --> 2:00:04.400 Life of Pablo Jesus. If you want to go with 2:00:04.440 --> 2:00:06.040 Life for Pablo, put your hand up with me. If 2:00:06.040 --> 2:00:08.280 you're gonna go with Jesus with him and be his friend, 2:00:08.760 --> 2:00:13.960 I'll take it. I'll take it. Listen, Bro, God bless uh, 2:00:14.160 --> 2:00:16.720 God bless the Life of Pablo. Great album. But Jesus 2:00:16.880 --> 2:00:22.000 was Jesus is like it's aged, don't say it. I 2:00:22.080 --> 2:00:24.480 loved it when it first came out. You about that 2:00:24.520 --> 2:00:26.760 ship the same day? Was that ship came out the 2:00:26.800 --> 2:00:28.880 same day as Born Center from J Cole and Mac Miller, 2:00:29.520 --> 2:00:32.040 I brought. I bought three albums that day. Watching movies 2:00:32.040 --> 2:00:35.000 with the soundofser was better than Jesus. You're fucking crazy, 2:00:35.400 --> 2:00:39.520 You're fucking crazy. Jesus is a fucking classic. Born Center 2:00:39.720 --> 2:00:42.080 was a good album. Jesus might be one of Kanye's 2:00:42.120 --> 2:00:45.320 worst albums. With Jesus is King, You're something fucking crazy, 2:00:45.680 --> 2:00:50.360 Jesus King, it's not better than graduation. Graduation might be. 2:00:50.440 --> 2:00:55.400 Actually think it's you're crazy. Graduation breaks Graduation to me, 2:00:55.560 --> 2:00:57.840 is I put Jesus above graduating. No, no, no, no, no, 2:00:57.960 --> 2:01:00.320 you're right. That's that's that's kind of like to I'm 2:01:00.360 --> 2:01:02.360 gonna tell you, I think graduation was like one of 2:01:02.400 --> 2:01:06.600 the best. That was the evolution. That's like I take 2:01:06.680 --> 2:01:09.760 cares like Drake's evolution, like my junior and senior will 2:01:09.760 --> 2:01:12.520 only get me in it, like that speaking shit into existence. 2:01:12.600 --> 2:01:15.880 I feel like like can't tell me nothing, and good 2:01:15.960 --> 2:01:18.600 life and I wonder and all of that shit like 2:01:18.760 --> 2:01:23.400 Barry Bonds and everything I'm not made me everything I am. 2:01:23.600 --> 2:01:26.040 All of that shit was a moment of like I 2:01:26.160 --> 2:01:29.600 beat fifty, I sold more than him, the Teddy Beer beat, 2:01:29.680 --> 2:01:32.400 the Bully. That shit was like a moment in time. 2:01:32.520 --> 2:01:35.360 Bro can't tell me nothing was like we all was 2:01:35.400 --> 2:01:39.400 wearing scarf, like the big fucking Palestinian scoffs around our neck, skinny. 2:01:41.520 --> 2:01:44.640 We always doing that. That was Jesus is better than graduation. 2:01:45.400 --> 2:01:47.480 I just named about eight songs that was incredible. He 2:01:47.640 --> 2:01:50.120 just had ten records. Go, but what are we talking 2:01:50.120 --> 2:01:52.680 about here? I just named eight bengas off of graduation. 2:01:52.800 --> 2:01:54.880 I didn't even get to the end. Drunken Hot Girls 2:01:55.040 --> 2:01:58.000 is on fucking graduation. That song was, Yo, can't tell 2:01:58.080 --> 2:02:00.560 me nothing. Barry Bonds with Lulu Wayne is on there. Yo, 2:02:01.400 --> 2:02:04.120 Barry Bonds with Lil Wayne has not aged. Well, go 2:02:04.240 --> 2:02:05.920 listen to that song today and tell me that song 2:02:06.000 --> 2:02:08.880 is aged. Well. We outa here, baby. Big Brother was great. 2:02:09.000 --> 2:02:10.880 Big Brother was on there too. Everything I'm not mam 2:02:10.920 --> 2:02:13.400 me everything. That album's not better than late Registration. I'm 2:02:13.440 --> 2:02:16.240 still naming songs. You stopped at one. What are we talking? 2:02:16.280 --> 2:02:18.560 Blood on the leaves, black skin, heead, don't drop my 2:02:18.640 --> 2:02:21.600 look or keep going? That's three, keep going, Welcome to 2:02:21.680 --> 2:02:24.080 the good life. Can't tell me nothing. I wonder bro 2:02:24.760 --> 2:02:26.920 with Flashing Lights on there because we could stop talking 2:02:27.120 --> 2:02:30.040 right now. Flashing Lights was on late registration. Late registration 2:02:30.160 --> 2:02:32.360 to me, No, no, no, you're cheating. What do you 2:02:32.400 --> 2:02:35.879 mean you're cheating right now? Flashing Lights was on graduation. 2:02:36.160 --> 2:02:39.200 That was the I wonder was it I wonder if 2:02:39.280 --> 2:02:41.800 and then flashing like yes you lost. Oh yeah, you're right. 2:02:42.280 --> 2:02:44.040 It was a better album than Yasus. It's not better 2:02:44.080 --> 2:02:47.520 than Late Registration. It's better than Yusus lost. I mean 2:02:47.680 --> 2:02:51.400 That's registration is incredible too. You don't argue with that, 2:02:51.600 --> 2:02:55.160 my beautiful twist, Like all of these albums are better 2:02:55.400 --> 2:02:58.120 than the ten song ye'ss album, all of them. It's 2:02:58.160 --> 2:03:01.760 only about five or six like incredible records on Yeesus. 2:03:01.840 --> 2:03:03.880 Every other album, the first six records on his Shit 2:03:03.960 --> 2:03:09.360 is incredible. Jesus is like Caviard bro. It's not for everybody. 2:03:09.560 --> 2:03:13.240 That's what Yesus is like four four four when you 2:03:13.320 --> 2:03:17.520 say it's better, you might say that is a great album. 2:03:17.560 --> 2:03:19.360 I think four four four is jay Z's worst album. 2:03:19.680 --> 2:03:22.440 That's just me. I can name ten other albums that 2:03:22.520 --> 2:03:25.200 are better. I think Magnet Carter Holy Girls' worst album. 2:03:25.200 --> 2:03:27.280 I thought that album was a steaming pilot dog shit 2:03:29.240 --> 2:03:30.960 what happened? That might be what you want to say. 2:03:31.440 --> 2:03:33.080 You know what album is most left on album that 2:03:33.120 --> 2:03:36.320 gets all the hate? Blueprint three, that was the double album, 2:03:36.640 --> 2:03:38.840 that was a double album, but that ship. I like 2:03:38.920 --> 2:03:41.840 that her Blueprint two, Blueprint too, That's what I'm got 2:03:41.840 --> 2:03:45.640 to say Blueprint three was terrible too. It's Blueprint three. 2:03:45.760 --> 2:03:48.000 Blueprint three had j Cole on it. They had an 2:03:48.400 --> 2:03:51.440 Empire state of Mind on it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:03:51.480 --> 2:03:54.080 you had the song with phar Real some bullshit, had 2:03:54.120 --> 2:03:56.760 a with Drake on there too. Yeah yeah, I mean 2:03:56.800 --> 2:04:00.080 Empire state of Mind is biggest record. But yeah, I 2:04:00.120 --> 2:04:02.200 didn't like Blueprint three. I didn't like Magna Carta Holy Girl. 2:04:02.280 --> 2:04:04.800 I loved four forty four. Blueprint two had some of 2:04:04.840 --> 2:04:06.400 the best Jay on it ever, but it also had 2:04:06.440 --> 2:04:08.760 some of the Remember how you said Wayne had a 2:04:08.840 --> 2:04:11.680 tough decade? Yeah, what albums did jay Z put out 2:04:11.760 --> 2:04:18.800 last decade? When did American Gangster come out? That was 2:04:18.840 --> 2:04:20.360 a great album. But I just want to go back 2:04:20.360 --> 2:04:22.560 because I remember you said Wayne had a rough decade. Okay, 2:04:22.600 --> 2:04:25.040 I'll give you that if we're talking about the last decade. 2:04:25.080 --> 2:04:31.600 Four forty four great album, nominated for a Grammy, Watched 2:04:31.600 --> 2:04:36.080 the Throne, great album. You said that album was a 2:04:36.160 --> 2:04:38.680 rack of dog shits. Magna cart Holy Girl was not 2:04:38.800 --> 2:04:41.720 a champ. I like that album, not for me, Sir 2:04:42.520 --> 2:04:46.280 tom Ford, All that shit? Right? What else? What else 2:04:46.320 --> 2:04:48.560 came out from Home this decade? I was not a 2:04:48.640 --> 2:04:51.760 fan of the Beyonce album. But then again, there's people 2:04:51.760 --> 2:04:53.520 who think that that shit was incredible, and I'm like, 2:04:53.600 --> 2:04:55.120 I don't hear. I mean, I mean, I liked the 2:04:55.160 --> 2:04:56.760 few songs on there. I like the few songs on 2:04:56.880 --> 2:05:01.160 the Oh yeah, come on, come on the JA Electronic 2:05:01.240 --> 2:05:03.880 It became out in January, that shit, bro Hope washed 2:05:03.960 --> 2:05:07.680 j Electronica for a whole album. I mean, I don't, 2:05:07.720 --> 2:05:10.360 I don't don't. I I liked some of the joints 2:05:10.400 --> 2:05:13.320 on there. You don't like four forty four. I didn't 2:05:13.320 --> 2:05:15.400 say I don't like it. You just say it's worse 2:05:16.000 --> 2:05:18.960 to me. I can't put four four four above And 2:05:19.080 --> 2:05:20.760 this is just me having a regular convo because I'm 2:05:20.760 --> 2:05:22.600 a rapper, so I probably shouldn't be talking about other 2:05:22.720 --> 2:05:24.880 rap shit like this, but I'm a fan, so it's 2:05:24.960 --> 2:05:32.000 like reasonable doubt. Yes, in my lifetime Value one, in 2:05:32.080 --> 2:05:37.440 my lifetime Volume two Streets is watching Volume three, So 2:05:37.560 --> 2:05:41.360 you don't put four forty four above Volume one? Uh? 2:05:41.920 --> 2:05:44.480 You said, do I put four four four above Value one? Yeah? 2:05:45.120 --> 2:05:48.560 Volume one is Imaginary Playmates. Lucky Great Stuff on the 2:05:48.600 --> 2:05:50.920 Street is watching. The City is Mine? A million and 2:05:51.000 --> 2:05:54.360 one questions. You must love me? No, I don't you 2:05:54.440 --> 2:05:56.160 want me to go to volume two? No? Volume two. 2:05:56.200 --> 2:06:00.600 I mean listen, I love Volume three. Neither on the 2:06:00.600 --> 2:06:06.080 way there's been a murder dope, remove your roof, nigga, 2:06:06.160 --> 2:06:08.040 Let the sun shine in. No, it's not better than 2:06:08.080 --> 2:06:09.440 that one either. You want to go to the next one. 2:06:10.200 --> 2:06:12.320 It's not better than that Black album either. It's not 2:06:12.800 --> 2:06:17.240 Colic service announcement. And I think black album is lu 2:06:17.800 --> 2:06:21.280 that kan I think black album is. I think there's 2:06:21.320 --> 2:06:24.280 only there's three right answer. Let's keep going through these albums. 2:06:24.520 --> 2:06:27.920 What's your favorite jay album? Oh, Blueprint? What's got about Blueprint? Blunt? 2:06:28.120 --> 2:06:31.400 What's your favorite jay Z album? Blueprint? That's fair? That 2:06:31.560 --> 2:06:35.760 was I think because I'm born on September eleventh, So 2:06:35.840 --> 2:06:38.200 I remember when he put the album out him in 2:06:38.280 --> 2:06:44.080 fab I think fabulous album. That showed me a lot too. Yeah, 2:06:44.120 --> 2:06:46.520 I remember just putting Blueprint on and the city, New 2:06:46.600 --> 2:06:49.280 York was in like a real funny It wasn't like 2:06:49.320 --> 2:06:54.080 a real funny area. And uh, I remember the rulers 2:06:54.120 --> 2:07:04.080 back fucking uh uh song cry never change all I 2:07:04.240 --> 2:07:07.080 need you know what I'm saying the shit with Eminem Jesus. 2:07:07.120 --> 2:07:09.680 I remember jay Z's had a better decade than Wayne, 2:07:10.280 --> 2:07:14.200 quality of music wise, would you would you well, actually yeah, 2:07:14.240 --> 2:07:16.320 oh wait yeah so wait is one? Yeah, so I 2:07:16.360 --> 2:07:18.280 would say, you know, the last ten years, if we 2:07:18.360 --> 2:07:21.160 had to stack up music, it would be close. Yeah, 2:07:21.560 --> 2:07:23.680 every every Like I said, everybody got their drop points. 2:07:23.680 --> 2:07:25.400 You know how you said you ain't like the Beyonce shit, 2:07:25.440 --> 2:07:27.160 and you ain't like the Magna Carta Holy Grail, and 2:07:27.200 --> 2:07:28.720 you ain't like a lot of people like Manna card 2:07:28.800 --> 2:07:30.440 Holy Grail. I was not one of them. A lot 2:07:30.520 --> 2:07:32.840 of people like Jesus, I was not one of them. 2:07:33.160 --> 2:07:36.920 That's fair. Most people don't like you, I think. And 2:07:37.040 --> 2:07:39.280 then bring this whole thing for us, this whole conversation, 2:07:39.360 --> 2:07:41.440 because I don't want nobody to get this misconstrued like 2:07:41.480 --> 2:07:43.560 I'm shitting on people. I'm a fan of all of 2:07:43.600 --> 2:07:46.320 these people that we talk about. That's why I can 2:07:46.520 --> 2:07:48.640 go this in depth in the conversation with you about 2:07:48.680 --> 2:07:50.920 it and not sound like I'm kicking dirt on them 2:07:51.000 --> 2:07:53.200 and not be able to praise them in the same token. 2:07:53.800 --> 2:07:57.720 You know what I'm saying, a lot of a lot 2:07:57.760 --> 2:08:01.200 of artists that we've been talking about today, they went 2:08:01.320 --> 2:08:04.480 through errors of shit changing. You know what I'm saying. 2:08:04.480 --> 2:08:06.400 I think a lot of times we overlooked that too, 2:08:06.520 --> 2:08:10.840 prime example, push your teeth. How we was talking about 2:08:10.880 --> 2:08:15.720 like Lord Willing, and then then when his brother went 2:08:15.800 --> 2:08:17.560 to do his things, so now they not the clips 2:08:17.640 --> 2:08:21.120 no more? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that was 2:08:21.160 --> 2:08:23.360 hard too. And then it's like then we've seen him 2:08:23.360 --> 2:08:26.480 on the VMA's with Yay, like oh shit, this ship 2:08:26.560 --> 2:08:28.880 might be oh yay, got a spitable where is this 2:08:28.960 --> 2:08:30.720 gonna go? Then we'll be seen where that could go. 2:08:30.800 --> 2:08:34.240 He had to reinvent himself from Lord Willing, from my 2:08:34.360 --> 2:08:38.320 I don't love her. You know, is yet to reinvent himself. 2:08:38.400 --> 2:08:40.920 He's still rapping about selling cocaine. No. But I mean 2:08:41.360 --> 2:08:43.920 when I say reinvent himself. When I say reinvent himself, 2:08:43.920 --> 2:08:47.320 I mean to a new eraror here to a new demographic. 2:08:47.440 --> 2:08:50.680 You know what I'm saying. Because I was young listening 2:08:50.720 --> 2:08:54.280 to the clips, so for me to be grown, and 2:08:54.440 --> 2:08:57.160 the nigga from the clips still look like the nigga 2:08:57.160 --> 2:08:59.120 from the clips in ninety eight don't even really look 2:08:59.240 --> 2:09:01.920 like he aged. But they fucked with him right now, 2:09:01.920 --> 2:09:03.880 they listening to him. You know what I'm saying, It's 2:09:03.880 --> 2:09:06.240 the same thing with Lil Wayne. He was Lil Wayne. 2:09:06.880 --> 2:09:11.120 He was on songs with Sammy and litl Zane Strike one. 2:09:11.880 --> 2:09:15.440 You know what I'm saying, He bowow and shit like that. Right, 2:09:15.600 --> 2:09:18.800 He went through eras like Lil Wayne went through the 2:09:18.880 --> 2:09:23.160 Kitty era, the you know, then the teenage era, the 2:09:24.080 --> 2:09:27.360 getting a little older era. Then it's like, oh nah, 2:09:27.400 --> 2:09:30.320 he's like one of the top artists. So now he 2:09:30.440 --> 2:09:32.640 has the top artists, Like if you look at all 2:09:32.720 --> 2:09:34.640 of them fucking evers. He went through like we were 2:09:34.640 --> 2:09:39.000 talking about Snoop. Snoop got erors of shit, Jay got 2:09:39.240 --> 2:09:42.640 errors of ship Yay Yay, got errors of shit. You 2:09:42.680 --> 2:09:44.320 know what I'm saying, Like from album to album, like 2:09:44.360 --> 2:09:47.480 you were saying, shit changed. Whether it was somebody coming 2:09:47.560 --> 2:09:49.040 in with a sound and he liked it and he 2:09:49.120 --> 2:09:52.120 latched onto it or whatever it was, it worked. He 2:09:52.280 --> 2:09:53.720 did it. A lot of people might have tried to 2:09:53.760 --> 2:09:55.720 do that shit and it didn't work because a lot 2:09:55.760 --> 2:09:58.400 of people that tried to do the sounds that other 2:09:58.440 --> 2:10:01.440 people did or was popping at that time, they couldn't 2:10:01.440 --> 2:10:03.120 make it work for them. You know what I'm saying, so, 2:10:03.920 --> 2:10:06.920 same thing with Rick Ross. I remember seeing Ross in 2:10:07.000 --> 2:10:09.720 a fucking Trina video for the all about the Benjamin's 2:10:09.760 --> 2:10:14.800 movie with No Beard right, told y'all how to get down. 2:10:16.600 --> 2:10:19.920 He was out then, but he went through errors. When 2:10:20.000 --> 2:10:23.440 I'm when every Day I'm Hustling came out, it's a 2:10:23.520 --> 2:10:27.800 total different Everdent now, definitely, it's a totally different erident now, 2:10:27.960 --> 2:10:29.960 you know what I'm saying. And he still got he 2:10:30.040 --> 2:10:32.040 still got us wanting to hear that fly shit. He 2:10:32.080 --> 2:10:33.960 still got a nigga like me waiting like yo, when 2:10:34.040 --> 2:10:36.320 Ros's gonna do an album with Justice League, Oh yeah, 2:10:36.360 --> 2:10:41.000 that'd be great. I need fifteen Rick Ross tracks over 2:10:41.280 --> 2:10:44.160 Justice League type production. You know what I'm saying. So 2:10:44.280 --> 2:10:48.200 your album is out wood panel walls out right now. Man. 2:10:49.680 --> 2:10:54.040 I rode it, recorded it, mixed it, shot all the videos, 2:10:54.160 --> 2:10:59.080 edit all of the videos, shot the documentary, edited. You 2:10:59.360 --> 2:11:01.440 handled the whole sit handled the whole ship. Man. I 2:11:01.520 --> 2:11:03.160 just had my homeboy master it because I was like, 2:11:03.360 --> 2:11:06.040 sometimes it just sounded a little a little here and there, 2:11:06.120 --> 2:11:07.680 But That's what I'm trying to get into. I'm trying 2:11:07.720 --> 2:11:11.200 to get more into the the visual aspect of it. 2:11:11.720 --> 2:11:13.600 I know I'm nice. You know I'm not and that's 2:11:13.640 --> 2:11:15.440 not even to be on no cocky shit. But I 2:11:15.600 --> 2:11:19.080 know I'm nice. I know I'm dead fucking nice. But 2:11:19.240 --> 2:11:22.120 that's not enough for me right now. At one time, 2:11:22.240 --> 2:11:23.960 maybe it wasn't enough, you know what I'm saying, But 2:11:24.080 --> 2:11:26.600 right now, I want to be known for more than 2:11:26.720 --> 2:11:28.800 just being nice, you know what I'm saying. Like that's 2:11:28.800 --> 2:11:30.920 why I'm getting into the videos and directing and shit 2:11:31.040 --> 2:11:32.680 like that, not saying like I just want to come 2:11:32.760 --> 2:11:35.280 some video direct or doing documentaries and shit, and I 2:11:35.280 --> 2:11:37.720 don't rap no more because rap is my first this 2:11:37.880 --> 2:11:39.680 is my love. Like I feel like we're in an 2:11:39.800 --> 2:11:41.640 error now where you don't got to retire as a rapper. 2:11:42.920 --> 2:11:46.680 You just put out music whenever you feel like, you know. 2:11:47.040 --> 2:11:49.000 So that's what I kind of did with this one. 2:11:49.200 --> 2:11:53.560 It's available, whoopaying the walls. I got Vito on there, 2:11:55.200 --> 2:11:59.080 I got cars on there, got my brother rel on there, 2:12:00.080 --> 2:12:02.440 Anthony King the dude singing on the High Roads joint. 2:12:02.440 --> 2:12:04.080 I got him on another joint on the project too, 2:12:04.880 --> 2:12:07.960 cause from dream though. Yeah, yeah, trying to trying to 2:12:08.120 --> 2:12:11.400 just do what I do, you know what I'm saying, 2:12:11.440 --> 2:12:13.520 because it's real. We in the error where it's real 2:12:13.640 --> 2:12:15.320 easy to go in the booth and just throw a 2:12:15.360 --> 2:12:17.840 bunch of plugins on your ship. Try to get that 2:12:18.000 --> 2:12:21.440 right melody, but not really say nothing, but just get 2:12:21.480 --> 2:12:23.680 the right melody and do that for two verses. You 2:12:23.720 --> 2:12:26.000 don't even need three verses no more, you know what 2:12:26.040 --> 2:12:28.880 I'm saying. So my shit is more, just go talk 2:12:28.920 --> 2:12:30.680 your ship, you know what I'm saying. So all you 2:12:30.720 --> 2:12:32.480 gotta do is talk your shit. You ain't really gotta 2:12:33.000 --> 2:12:35.440 just like you told me last week, you know, since 2:12:35.480 --> 2:12:37.200 we ain't making too much club shit because we ain't 2:12:37.240 --> 2:12:40.880 in the clubs. Male, I'm gonna play the music at well. 2:12:40.920 --> 2:12:44.920 I'm so at this point, man, niggas is just spitting. Man. 2:12:45.000 --> 2:12:48.880 I'm I'm glad that the industry is where it's kind 2:12:48.880 --> 2:12:50.720 of at right now, because it's kind of like open 2:12:50.760 --> 2:12:52.960 field right now. You don't know who gonna beat them next, niggas. 2:12:53.320 --> 2:12:55.600 You don't know who gonna be the person that reinvent 2:12:55.720 --> 2:12:58.800 theyself and do some two chain shit. You know what 2:12:58.840 --> 2:13:01.040 I'm saying, Just pop up like damn. He been around 2:13:01.160 --> 2:13:06.280 for years. We're just starting to Damn, we're late. It's 2:13:06.320 --> 2:13:07.960 gonna be a lot of artists like that, because right 2:13:08.000 --> 2:13:12.640 now it's just downtime. Man, Like how we were talking before. 2:13:12.680 --> 2:13:14.320 I feel bad for a lot of artists that was 2:13:14.360 --> 2:13:17.120 at the high points and now this shit fucked them up, 2:13:17.160 --> 2:13:20.080 like we were talking about Roddy and Roddy rich Russ. 2:13:20.560 --> 2:13:22.560 You know what I'm saying, the whole Griselda shit. You 2:13:22.560 --> 2:13:24.360 know what I'm saying. Get well to Benny too, you 2:13:24.400 --> 2:13:28.560 know shit. Yeah, man, it's like niggas, we want to 2:13:28.560 --> 2:13:30.000 get back on the road. We want to get back 2:13:30.000 --> 2:13:33.840 out there. But if you a person that make that 2:13:33.960 --> 2:13:36.480 type of music right now, this ship might be a 2:13:36.520 --> 2:13:38.640 little it's a little sketchy because it ain't really no 2:13:38.720 --> 2:13:40.920 way for us to feel that vibe. But if you 2:13:41.000 --> 2:13:42.760 a nigga like me and you just talking some shit, 2:13:42.760 --> 2:13:45.560 you painting pictures with these words, or you really gotta 2:13:45.560 --> 2:13:47.280 do it, sit dowre and roll up a blunt poor 2:13:47.400 --> 2:13:50.480 soning or just sit there. People are listening about yep, 2:13:50.600 --> 2:13:53.320 they got their headphones in right now, you're in their cars. 2:13:53.520 --> 2:13:56.440 That's what I'm doing, Boom, I'm listening to you know, 2:13:56.600 --> 2:13:58.720 I'm listening to everything too right now. A lot of 2:13:58.800 --> 2:14:00.480 new shit too. There's so much you shout out. You 2:14:00.560 --> 2:14:02.680 kind of got time to kind of got time to 2:14:02.760 --> 2:14:05.760 fish right. You know what I'm saying talking about Discovery Ship. 2:14:05.760 --> 2:14:08.520 We appreciate you pulling out, man, appreciate me come here 2:14:08.520 --> 2:14:10.240 and talk all of this ship about a bunch of 2:14:10.360 --> 2:14:13.080 rappers that's gonna think I don't like them, but I 2:14:13.240 --> 2:14:15.880 just appreciate Uh. Once again, I appreciate you letting me 2:14:15.920 --> 2:14:18.040 come through, chop it up with you all good man, 2:14:18.440 --> 2:14:20.400 talk some ship, promote the product. By the time this 2:14:20.520 --> 2:14:22.320 is out, the freestyle will be out. So you go 2:14:22.440 --> 2:14:24.800 check out the freestyle. Oh yeah, orange Face out of here. Man, 2:14:25.160 --> 2:14:27.400 it's crazy. Go check that out, man. Yeah. Bluele Cab 2:14:27.480 --> 2:14:30.080 podcast wrapping up J Miles Oh