1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Yo, what I mean? It's another edition of that bouleg 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Cap podcast episode number almost thirty, that's for sure, not 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: quite thirty. I think it's twenty eight, twenty eight. It's 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight, episode number twenty eight with the homie J Mills. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: What a crazy day. First of all, got a shout 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: out everybody who got nominated for Grammys, Roddy Rich the Baby, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: But most importantly, the Rap Album of the Year category 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: was revealed, and boy was there a lot of rappin' 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: ass rap on that category. Freddie gibbson Alchemist Alfredo headlining 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the Album of the Year nominations for Alfredo. Then of 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: course you have a Jay Electronica's album, D Smokes Project, 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Royce the Five Nines Project, and NASA's King's Disease. So 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: some real dope rap music got nominated for Grammys. I 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: think personally, there was some obvious snubs in the Album 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: of the Year category. There's no way you do Album 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: of the Year and not put Roddy Rich in there. Also, 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: Run the Jewels Killer, Mike LP Run the Jewels four 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: should have been in that talk probably would have left 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: off D Smoke, probably would have left off Jay Electronica, 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, Shout out to jay great project, 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: but you know, the whole album jay Z just kind 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: of washed him. Nonetheless, I hope Freddie Gibbs wins. It's 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: my favorite album of the year. And congratulations to Gangs, 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: the Gibbs and the Alchemists for being nominated finally because 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: they got snubbed last year. Him and Madlib got snubbed 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: last year. But I digress. YO dope episode this week. 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Shout out to j Mills formerly of Young Money. You know, 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: it's crazy because we had him come up just to 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: do a freestyle. The freestyle's out right now on our 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: YouTube page. But then we started to just shoot the 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: shit with him and we're like, Yo, you should come 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: in and do an interview because he's got so much 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: crazy insight into the Young Money world because he was 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: signed a Young Money for about a decade and was 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: around for so many history moments. So this interview with 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: J Mills. By the way, he's got a new album 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: out go support that. But it really was us just 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of diving into his time with Young Money and 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: him sharing some pretty dope stories about his time around 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: Drake and Nicki and Wayne for the last decade or so, 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: so I hope you enjoyed the episode. Shout out to 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: our our pod cast sponsors, per the Usual. Got a 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: big big ups. Big ups to our main sponsor, odds Socks. 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: You know the holidays are coming. 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Woodpan walls. By 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: the time this is out, it'll be out. Yeah, woodpano 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: walls with wood painted walls, wood panel, wood panel walls. Yeah. 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: So what's that? What's that like in a car you 67 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: get the wood panel you know what it is? It's like, Uh. 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I grew up in New York City and Boston Heights, 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: so a lot of those apartments was The architecture was 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: real old school. It might have all, I know, the 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of walls you're talking. Yeah, it might have like 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: five six rooms, but when you first come in, it's 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: a long hallway, but it'll be a room on this side, 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: then the room here, then a kitchen in the room here. 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Then So my grandmother had one of those apartments, right, 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: And when I was born, I was living in my 77 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: grandmam's crib. She from down South, had eleven kids, so 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: the house was very busy, but I'm a virgo, so 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: my memory bank is incredible. Like I can remember things 80 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: that I probably shouldn't remember and I didn't even try 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: to remember. But the woodpanel wallshit, it's stuck out, you 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like rest in peace to my 83 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: grandmom's too. Yeah, they got him trailed in my uncle's trailer. 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: It's like wood, but it's not real wood. Is that 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: what used to be on side of the station wagons too? Yeah? 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I think so, you know Grizzwall Ride Wile World. Yeah, 87 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: it's something like that, like threes think like Three's Company, Like, 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, you got to look panels all and my 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: Grandmam's crib was all like that. So when I went 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: to do this project, kind of like what we was 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: talking about the other day, I've come from an era 92 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: of the radio record the street single to this record, 93 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So this was the first 94 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: time I was like, man, fuck all that, let me 95 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: just record. Let me record a story, you know what 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I got so many stories, so many memories. 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Let me just record some ship that I could paint 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: a picture from track one to track whatever's going to 99 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: be the last one, no radio records. It ain't no 100 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: party shit, no strip club shit. It ain't really too 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: much with a bounce. But if you listen to it 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: from beginning to end, it's a good story. Now I 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: first knew of you from your battle and days. Yeah, 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: way back in the day. It's a long time now 105 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: we're getting we get in the years agoing like I 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: didn't even know you. Just battled the nets again recently 107 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: because I remember the original Yeah shouted shouting nets. You 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: know that was an RB situation. He was in the band, right, Yeah, 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: he was in the band, And this is a big 110 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: thing people don't hate. He was the only one that 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: was dope in there. I think people I think I 112 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: think people think I was trying to be a part 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: of the band. Like I never was auditioning for the band. 114 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: I was never trying to be in the band. It 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: was just like did he call me and nit a 116 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: battle nest? That's really all it was. I wasn't that 117 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: was probably like was that like the first like like 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: your biggest look at the time was to do at 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: that time, that might have been my biggest look. I 120 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: was still doing like street, But I don't know if 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I had no No No out yet. I don't think 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: I had I don't know if I had the Warner 123 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: Brothers deal yet. I think I was still doing like 124 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: battling mixtape type shit. But yeah, I mean coming. I 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: mean obviously, you go from the Battle world where you're 126 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: like a legend, and then you had the No No 127 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: No record. I remember having that right now final yeah yeah. 128 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: But then there's like a whole other wave of people 129 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: who just know you from being from Young Money. So 130 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: you and Wayne and the Young Money situation, Uh, how 131 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: like when did that start and how did it initially 132 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: happen because at the time, it was what just you 133 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: and Nikki. They were from the East Coast from New York. 134 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: It was me and Nicky. But he was fucking with 135 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Cory Guns too shot Oh yeah yeahyah. Well, I mean 136 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if Guns was I don't know if 137 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Guns I don't think he ever signed officially, but I 138 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: don't know if he was signed or whatever yet. But 139 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I remember he had the Millie remix Yah, and he 140 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: was fucking with guns. I feel like he was on 141 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: the original Yeah yeah, yeah. Guns might have been around 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: Young Money before me. Guns and NICKI might have been 143 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: around Young Money before me, but nothing was really solidified. 144 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Nicky was definitely around around, but me and Guns was 145 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of like Wayne just fucked with us. He just 146 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: liked that rapping type shit. But yeah, that was that 147 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: was that situation. I think around the time I started 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: fucking with Wayne might have been like two thousand and seven. 149 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: I want to say like two thousand and seven because 150 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: this is the situation with me and Wayne. I'm explaining this. 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: I had a song called how Had a Player? And 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if people knew or not, but I 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: wasn't signed to Universal no more. This is like when 154 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Sylvia Ron came over and everything changed, like and you know, 155 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm from the radio era. I'm from 156 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: that era of the single and all of this shit. 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to just keep my record going because 158 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: I know I don't got no deal no more. So 159 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing shit like this is it six. I'm doing 160 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: shit like recording myself, taking the curses out and texting 161 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: DJ Enough or DJ Camillo or k Slade like or 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: flex like y'all got this new record? Now? This is 163 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: usually coming from a department. Now, it's like you're sending 164 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: me a shit directly. Well, all right, cool, we fuck 165 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: with you, So yeah, just send it. And now I 166 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: started getting radio play, and I'm like, damn, I'm noticing. 167 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting play like mixed show played twice a day. 168 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: You might get the rush hour play. You might get 169 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: the traffic hour, traffic jam play, seven o'clock play. You know, 170 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: later on somebody else come on to twelve. I might 171 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: have heard my shit four or five times today. I 172 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: don't got no deal with my mom's crib real shit. 173 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't go on to another record. 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm smart enough to know that I cannot go on 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: to another record. I got son going right now. So 176 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: I hit Wayne right like, uh, I got this record. 177 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's bubbling in New York 178 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: right now. If you want to jump on, and I 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: sent it to you. I'm really just taking a shot 180 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: in the dark. I don't I don't know if he 181 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna get on this shit or not. But I had 182 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: a record called Bring It Back with Jada Kiss, and 183 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: then I did a remix with Wayne and Fab. Wayne said, 184 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: come to the studio. I shot the Fab shot the kiss. 185 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Granted, they was they busy 186 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: but Wayne told me come to the studio and did 187 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: it that night and then charged me nothing. This is 188 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: when he doing like three hundred records in it. So 189 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, I'm just taking shit. I'm 190 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: shooting from half court in a dark gym on all 191 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: of these moves right now. I don't know what's gonna happen. 192 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Send him the record. He send the record back next day. 193 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: So my brother is like the super little Wayne fan 194 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: at this time. He like, BROH heard that verse before. 195 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he just did this verse with me 196 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: last night. He said, not, bro I heard that verse before. 197 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: IM gonna be real like he ain't want to say 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: like that, but he's like he pulled the verse up, 199 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: all sorts of egg all on my face now. So 200 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: now I'm faced with the decision. Do I act like 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: I do not know that this man said this verse 202 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: already and still put this song out, or can I 203 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: just hit him and just be like, yo, I appreciate it, 204 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: but I can't put this out, you know, blah blah. 205 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: And he was like, oh my fht blah blah blah blah. 206 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: Next day, sent me another verse back and said some 207 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: shit in the junk like Miles had to tell me 208 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: stop recycling verses, and since I don't write it, I 209 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: recited in cursive. I was like, oh, that's personalized for me. 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: That ain't like he just gave me a verse from 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: some a dedication mixtape that didn't come out right. So 212 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh, that shot you took in the 213 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: dark gym, you hit the rim on that shit like 214 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: you might could stand in this dark gym a little more, 215 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: but just try to get closer to where you hit 216 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: the rim at. So now I'm like, yo, look man, 217 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: I ain't got no situation. I know you're doing the 218 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: young money shit. You know what I'm saying. If I 219 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: coul come play some music, he said, you don't got 220 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: no deal? Coury right back. So I'm like, oh, I'm 221 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: done on that verse like that versus a dub. He's not. 222 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't got no budget. I don't he knows now 223 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't have money to give him for the verse. 224 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: He caught me back with Taz on the phone. He's like, 225 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: when can you get on a flight? He said, but 226 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: tell me this again. You said you don't got no vert, 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: no deal, right, I said, nah? He said, well when 228 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: can you get on a flight to Miami. Now I'm 229 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: in Harlem. I'm like, I get on a flight yesterday. 230 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: He started laughing. After that flight, I was young money 231 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: until I wasn't young money no more. Yeah, I mean 232 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: so that was six. That was like, oh that's around 233 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: six o seven. It was around. It was right before 234 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: you know how reason three was right before the car three. 235 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: When I got around. I remember the first time out. 236 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: He flew me out. After that conversation, I went to 237 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: the Hit Factory and when he walked in, he started 238 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: just playing me a bunch of music and shit, and 239 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: I remember he played Lollipop. I'll never forget this shit. 240 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: This is when I was like, oh yeah, I gotta 241 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: step my shit up a whole lot like that. I'm 242 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: a nice rapper, it's a huge I was like, I'm 243 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: a good rapper. He's a great artist. And I have 244 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: no problem at all. I have no problem with saying 245 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: that because Wayne is my man. I love Wayne unconditionally. 246 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: He showed me shit that no other friend showed me. 247 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: No of a homie, no of a businessman, of a ceo, 248 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: no of a rapper. He showed me. And it was 249 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: hard on me with that ship too. But I learned 250 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: a lot, so I'm like, I'm like, damn, what the 251 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: fuck is this? But it sounded like the T Pain. 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: T Pain was killing everything at this time. But now 253 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm I know Wayne from Dad, and now it's like 254 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, damn, how he do that shit? 255 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: Like now he playing me a bunch of shit? He 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: played me got money. Now I had had to beat 257 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: for got money from playing skills or they had played 258 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: me like, you know, beat that gaming to beat, so 259 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: I knew. I was like, oh I heard this ship before, 260 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: all right, let me just sit here and listen to 261 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: his version. I was like, oh shit, he got T 262 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: pain on it. That's what that's the plan that they played. 263 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: When they played me the song like oh he I 264 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: was like, woy, I wouldn't have not made this song 265 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: like this, right, Glad they didn't get a ship to me, Like, 266 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm so glad they didn't waste this record with me 267 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have never made this this, you know 268 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Carter three wasn't out yet. He 269 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: was still doing like college arenas and ship like that. 270 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't like the I Am music. It was still 271 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: like and then like a lot of the Carter three leaked, 272 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: he was still performing a lot of the leak shit. 273 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: He was still performing. Were you around when the music 274 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: leaker had that already been leaked. I was starting to 275 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: come around. I was still like just doing my like 276 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't on Universe, And I just remember like being 277 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: at because I used to slang shit at the swap meet. 278 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: They're talking my name, So I remember just having to 279 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: every little Wayne tape. There was like Carter three fucking leaks, 280 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the drought, the droughts, and then it was like, I 281 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: mean obviously before that the squad up shit, but like 282 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: that that like era, like right before Carter three, like 283 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: the like twelve months prior, when he was just heating 284 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: up the mixtape shit. It was like that's what really 285 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: got Wayne hot up top. I mean he was already 286 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: hot since he was fucking thirteen fourteen, but I mean 287 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: like reinventing himself from being like a little wheezy to 288 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: like the fire man. Well, no one took little Wayne 289 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: like serious. No, he had to start saying, I'm the 290 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: best rapper alive since the best rapper retired, because he 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: had to start had to make that statement. And then 292 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: he just started. And then I remember he performed on 293 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: the BT Awards. He performed gossip. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 294 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: stop hating on a nigga that no remember that moment. 295 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: No hype man on like an EP. It wasn't even 296 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: on his It was a leak. It was a leak. 297 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: It was a leak. Like you didn't like Wayne once 298 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: I got around him, That's what made me realize, Oh 299 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: I remember that. I was like, oh, this is the 300 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: first single for Carter three, and then nah, he didn't 301 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: get he was one of them type people when songs 302 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: leaked him. He like like he called those dead homies 303 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: he was. I mean, yet what he did with uh? 304 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Because you know, being the youngest dude in Cash Money, 305 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: I feel like as a rapper, there wasn't a lot 306 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: of people who with credibility that probably took him serious 307 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: until the first Carter when he started popping his shit. 308 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: That's that's around the time because five hundred degrees was whatever. 309 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the block is Hot was dope. 310 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: I think if you really were a Cash Money fan, 311 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: you knew little Wayne crap. Yeah, But like people like 312 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: like you said, like once that first Carter came out, 313 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: I remember working a best buy man when that shit dropped. 314 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: That shit was I remember the first time I heard 315 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: being U being Junior. Mm hmm, is that the puttest 316 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: feeding the blades. I ain't tripping nigga. I played the 317 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: corner like ripkin Nigga with the forty. I was like, yeah, 318 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: he in a different world. But Carter two was was 319 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: when because by this time I'm deep in rap. I'm deep. 320 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm an artist. I didn't have my ups, my downs, 321 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and my high points my low points. I read credits, 322 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: I read magazines. I want to know people that go 323 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: to school late. But I'm walking in the lunch room 324 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: with the Source magazine, the Double Excel, the Blaze. I 325 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: might have the vibe that might Blaze magazine. Yeah, I 326 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: might have had fucking the free styles of people. Get 327 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: your tape decks ready last night on DJ Clue the 328 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: fucking fire Truck. I was that type of kid. So 329 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: when I heard Carter too, like, oh ship, this is 330 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: the first time I heard of Wayne album with no 331 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: many fresh production and it was dope. Now I get 332 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: to hear him compare to everybody else. Now, now damn 333 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: me rapping over the heat makers. Who the fuck are 334 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: the runners. Who you know what I'm saying. So around 335 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: that time I got with Wayne, that shit showed me 336 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: a lot. It was to bring it back full circle. 337 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: It was around that time, right before Carter three. That's 338 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: around the time I got with Young Money. Help me understand. 339 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: Uh okay, so Young Money mm hmm. There's obviously the 340 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: product of Young Money is two of the biggest artists 341 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: of all time, Drake and Nikki. But there was all 342 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: these other rappers, so many let's talk about it. There 343 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: was you, there was Gotta Gotta I mean, you know, 344 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Macmaine was the President, but you know it was a 345 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: rapper for Shout Shout the Mac. Surprise, Mac never got 346 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: a solo album off the President. You wanted some funny shit. 347 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: When I first came around Young Money, I remember Mac 348 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: was telling me then like I want to be on 349 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: some balls ship this rapper, like he was tired of it. Then, Hey, 350 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, like, bro, you I used to 351 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: I used to send him so much ship let's get 352 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: on his beat. Let's because I was I'm a fan 353 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: of Mac Man, I'm a fan of the Squad, I'm 354 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: a fan of Win. So I wanted to just do 355 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: all Sorts Hill with everybody. And then I was the 356 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: person that used to when Wayne would fly me out, 357 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: I would bring my inbox and my computer and my 358 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: my m audio speakers in the hotel room that he 359 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: has me or would never go to the bus where 360 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: he's at. I would just be in the room just recording. 361 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: And I remember one day I think gut or Twist 362 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: told him He's like, what mails And He's like, he 363 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: upstairs recording? What are you doing? You're recording hisself? Promise you. 364 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: The next day I came downstairs on Wayne's tour bus. 365 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: He had all that ship learned how to record itself. 366 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, quick quick, Uh but no, but we're talking 367 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: like a vast amount of artists, like you just said, 368 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: Little Twist sew piercing right me guns Maneople, and it 369 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: seems Tiger Tiger, Nikki Drake. It just seemed like, uh, 370 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: being on young money could more too, that's the crazy 371 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: put a lot more. But it could be perceived to 372 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: be a gift in a curse. T Streets shot my 373 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: man T Streets, T Streets, But like, what why do 374 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: you think? Uh? It didn't work out for everybody, And 375 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: by everybody, I mean the majority of the artists on 376 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: the label. I tell people this all the time. It 377 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: never works out for everybody. Once you understand that, It's like, 378 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at this picture of Charles Barkley right now, 379 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: and it's taking me somewhere right. I want to explain 380 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: people something. There was a lot of great people on 381 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: the Sixers when Barkley came, a lot of great people 382 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: uh on the Lakers when Kobe came. I always tell 383 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: I always tell people, I know what it feels like 384 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: to be Eddie Joe. I know what it feels like 385 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: to be Eddie Jones. Not saying that I'm not nice, 386 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: I'm not great, but I know what it was like 387 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: to be great. And somebody comes around and they are undeniable. 388 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: You can go in the studio and make the dopest 389 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: shit you want. Aubrey is undeniable. I remember the first 390 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: time Wayne let me hear successful, I was like, WHOA, 391 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: this shit is dope. The next time I heard it, 392 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: Wayne had a different verse. Said why you got a 393 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: different verse? So I sent it to Drake and he 394 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: said he didn't really he liked the verse, but he 395 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't really think it went with the concept of the song. 396 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: I said, he made you do a verse over damn, 397 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it showed me to 398 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: respect Wayne had for him because he did the same 399 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: thing for me. He did the same thing for me. 400 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Did it over? I respect you? You know what You're right, 401 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that just brings me 402 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: back to the whole. It was a lot of artists 403 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: would happened. It was a lot of artists on cash money. 404 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: It was a lot of artists on no limits, a 405 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: lot of artists on death roll. But I remember Snoop 406 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Pot and the Dog Pound, not saying Lady of Rage 407 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: or jewell or or crook or or you know what 408 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm say. It's not to say that they wasn't great. 409 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: Was a part of it after like the dark years 410 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: of death throw. It's not to say that they wasn't great. 411 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: But Nikki was undeniable, Drake was undeniable out of let's say, 412 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: if it was ten of us, because it was all 413 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: it was like ten, ten, eleven of us. It was 414 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: a lot to hit with three the way that you hit. Now. 415 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: Some people might say, males, you being a little too 416 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: cordial about that, my nigga, because you wasn't one of 417 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: those three. It's how it works sometimes, keep it moving, 418 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: figure it out. That wasn't my first stop on the train. 419 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be my last. I came there with 420 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: Dil's already. A lot of people came there that was 421 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: their first time, that was their first rodeo. You know 422 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't fell off the horse, did 423 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: all of this shit already, so this isn't new to me. 424 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I know that this shit ain't gonna last forever. And 425 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people they thought it 426 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: was gonna last forever. I think with Tiger, he had 427 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: been around, he had been with gym class heroes. He 428 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: had poking up milk. He had understood how to make 429 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: this ship work. Drake had already been comeback season. I 430 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: would almost argue that that Tiger popped despite little Wayne. 431 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: He did Wayne it tune, I Love you, I Love 432 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: you tune? All right, Tiger will tell you this. Wayne 433 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: didn't like that direction that Tiger was going in, like 434 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: make it nasty, rack city, bitch, better have my money 435 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: dancing for them dollars? Uh? What was the joint? He 436 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: had asked? So fat and neither lapped in Wayne wasn't 437 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: feeling that because you gotta understand that's not the vision 438 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Wayne saw for him when he first met him. You Tiger, Tiger, 439 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: you like your bouncy flow like kind of like so 440 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: and sos of mischief type shit. You different You like 441 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: a real West Coast lyrical crafty with your words. And 442 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: now you going strip club or me, they don't even 443 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: really have strip clubs where you act like that, like 444 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: where it is coming from. It was kind of like 445 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: when I used to first got around Young Money. You 446 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: listen to Dedication three, my bars was like on top 447 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: of each other, on top of each other. Even anytime 448 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I did mixtapes for Young Money, my bars was on 449 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: top of each other like that. And that's because Wayne 450 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: taught me how to differentiate it. She ain't got a man, 451 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: but she's not alone misindependent. Yeah, she got her own. Hey, 452 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I hated that verse. That was the end of my verse. 453 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: Wayne said, naw, you know what, I think you should 454 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: start the verse off like that, because that's more like 455 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: that's a memorable and I'm just like, I don't care. 456 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: I was more until I got a bitch Nakekeisha from 457 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: around the way. She used to go to college school 458 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: back and the day he was like, oh shit, that's dope. 459 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: That's why he just wanted me to talk crazy all 460 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: day because in his mind his vision for me was 461 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: they already know you for talking crazy. You said big 462 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: in my trouble or what da da dah, and I 463 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: put a gun in your feet. We love you for that, 464 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: So you get a pass to do that, because Little 465 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: Chucky and Little Twist can't do that. They not known 466 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: for that. They gotta be kids still, you know what 467 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he had visions for all of us. 468 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: He never really wanted all of us to be like 469 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: signed to Young Money. He wanted us to be Young 470 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Money a group and we do some Wu tang shit 471 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: and all get deals. I know, this sounds like crazy, 472 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: This sounds like yeah right, Mills he did. He never 473 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: really wanted us all to be signed to him. He 474 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: wanted to give us a platform and we go rep 475 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: Young Money and get deals and bags everywhere. But we 476 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: still like this fucking conglomerate on some shit. Because in 477 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: his mind, the Hot Boys was all solo artists. True, 478 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: so like they if Birdman could put me in the studio, 479 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: beg and juvenile. I don't want to hear y'all say 480 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: nothing about me putting y'all in the studio with a 481 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: little Chucky and Little Twists. Yeah, I mean, go Chucky, 482 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: little Twist, God bless him. Look, there was some times 483 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: that we drop off. There were some times that we 484 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: was like, tune check this out. Bro. We love you, man, 485 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: we love you, but come on, man, it's five forty 486 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: five am. Man, it's beeping looping for We don't really 487 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: want to do this. But but I knew that a 488 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: lot of to see me. I knew a lot of 489 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: the shit that Wayne used to do to us was 490 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: a test. It was like boot camp. It's a lot 491 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: of y'all. I need to see who really wanted you 492 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I need to see who gonna 493 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: go hard? Like it ain't really about who nice. You 494 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: could be dead nice, but you might be lazy. Was 495 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: there ever? Like there's hell of rumors of internal issues 496 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: with people in Young Money. I mean, uh, you said 497 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Chucky and Twist didn't get along. It was internal issues everywhere, 498 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: but not like not like not like beef, Like Me 499 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: and Twist had they thing because they was like they 500 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: were kids. It was like the kid who's the who's 501 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: the young money young and who's the prince of young money? 502 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: And then Chanelle and Nikki they never had a thing, 503 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: but to me it felt like it because it's like, well, 504 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: who's the lady of young Money. Yeah, I mean that 505 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: was pretty evident, not in the beginning, Not in the 506 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: beginning when we all used to have to do group 507 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: photo shoots and shit like that. You gotta remember, Nikki 508 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: was coming from Come Up DVD. Chanelle was coming from 509 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: being a songwriter and a dancer for Neo. Two different things, 510 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: totally different at that time. I'm talking about ten years ago, 511 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was a different thing. 512 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Like Drake wasn't what he is now. He was like 513 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: coming from the grass Sea. He was more known for 514 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: the grassy than people respected him as a rapper. It 515 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: took a very long time for people to respect Drake 516 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: as a rapper. But I think it was so much 517 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: music we was in that digital era that once you 518 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: got so far gone, you was like he alright, no, 519 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: he was fucking incredible, but you just didn't want to 520 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: say he was incredible, because it's like, damn, Wayne's still incredible. 521 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Then after I was like well, who's more incredible. Then 522 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: after a while it's like, damn, Nikki kind of high too, 523 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: and then you kind of for Tiger. I feel like 524 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Tiger was the first one to get lost in it. 525 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: When I seen Tiger get lost in it, I said, 526 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: it's bad for me. Mmm, that's real shit. I'm gonna 527 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: keep it a buck. I said, it's bad for me 528 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: because Tiger had a setup, right, yeah. I don't know 529 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: if that time he was managed by Jay Irvin. I 530 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: don't know. T don't don't don't kill me for this. 531 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't really know the specifics of it, but I remember, 532 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: I remember me and Gutter used to talk a lot. 533 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: Me and GUTTI start, I talked, spoke the gutta gut 534 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: over the shout, the Gutter shout to the whole young 535 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: Money period. Me and Gutter used to talk a lot 536 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: right about just the way shit was going. Because Guttter 537 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: used to he was around before me, and when I 538 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: first got the young money, Wayne told me, if you 539 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: want to know how to stay around me, like how 540 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: to if you really want to know me, stick to him? 541 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: He told me. I remember when I first came around, 542 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: he was like He's like he knows me. You know 543 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you if you want to know me, 544 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: you want to know how not to get on my 545 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: bad side, how not to you know what I'm saying, 546 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: How to move around me? Stick to him? You know 547 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And to this day, I still talk 548 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: to Gutt to Gutter. You know what I'm saying. He's 549 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: not on your money anymore. He's so young money, so 550 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: young money. They gotta they gotta rec it out right now. 551 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I think it's Wayne Gutter and Hood called NFL. It's 552 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: for like the prime video for Thursday Night Football. It's 553 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: like the song for some dope shit, but basically bring 554 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: it to bring it back. Gut. It was like, how 555 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: you think this shit gonna go for US malls? And 556 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: I was like, it's a chain. I was like, at 557 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, Drake is undeniable, Nicki undeniable. 558 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: We don't know who gonna come first out of them. 559 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: And then Wayne went to jail in the midst of them, 560 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: being like like yeah, So by the time he came 561 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: out of jail, Nicky was pink Wig, Marg Simpson. It 562 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: was like, you know, and Drake was Aston Martin music 563 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: and he was he was. He was. They was coming 564 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: into their own and then I remember six foot seven, 565 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and then Wayne was right back to being Wayne, and 566 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: then it was like damn. Now it's like Big three. 567 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: But Tiger, me and Gutter used to always be like, damn, 568 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: Tiger putting in work. I would come out here to 569 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Cali to see my lady and had kid on the 570 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: way at that time, and I'd be like, Tiger, keep 571 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: a song on the radio. Now maybe we in Miami 572 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: or New York, we might not hear that ship like that. 573 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: But when I used to come here before I moved here, 574 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: and I moved here in twenty fifteen, so this is 575 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: like eleven, twelve, thirteen, whatever. Yeah, I call his Molly 576 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: mal Era. When he was in Vegas for MA, he 577 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: was hitting he shit called strip hop going up, and 578 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: there was I think that's where a lot of the 579 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: he was. He was hitting, and he was like branding 580 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: himself in that lane of like bop that DJ muzzle 581 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: on that he would bring himself City Low kids the 582 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: record that really blew. Didn't feel like they was like 583 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: it felt like he was forcing their hand, like you 584 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: got it now you And I felt like, damn if 585 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: he gotta force they hand. You know what I'm saying. 586 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta figure some shit out, you know 587 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I was throwing shit. I'm trying 588 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: to figure shit out. But you gotta remember in the 589 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: midst of that, Wayne is Wayne, Drake is Drake, and 590 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: he's only coming bigger. Nicky is Nicki, and the Barbie 591 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: is only becoming bigger. So now we gotta sustain this. 592 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: We gotta sustain Wayne, Nicki, Drake, Tiger's doing this thing, 593 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: but they're keeping the lights on. Nicky and Drake kept 594 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: the lights on when Wayne went the Rikers, Allen keeping 595 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: it a buck. So now all right, now we're touring, 596 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: all right, Well, how do we do the tours? Now? 597 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: Who's gonna open, who's gonna close? Oh, he's not going 598 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: out with us, he's going out on his own. Or 599 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: she's doing her own tour she's taking. So now I'm 600 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: peeping like this one I realized this ship is really 601 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: really different, and it happened fast. I remember Drake did 602 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Club Paradise. That was the name of Drake. I was hot. 603 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: What were you about? I loved Drake, but I was hot. 604 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: I think me and I think me and Gutta gut 605 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: It might have been I don't know if gut It 606 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: was too hot, but I was hot, and I think 607 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: I was hot because I was thinking something was gonna 608 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: go a certain way, Like did you think you were 609 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be on the tour? Yes, I will completely. 610 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: I was every that was big, that was basically everybody 611 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: that was doing the same thing that we were doing 612 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: at that time that wasn't with Young Money. I remember that. 613 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: I remember, and I loved Drake. I ain't gonna lie. 614 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: I loved Drake with all my heart. Man. I love Nikki, 615 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: I love Tiger, Wayne Gutta, mac Maine, Twist, I love 616 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: all the everybody that was a part of that ride 617 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: who were young Money whoever. We still because me and 618 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Tiger not young money no more. But I I'm not 619 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: covering my young Money tattoo, like I still sign my 620 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: checks and you still see it. Because that was a 621 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: decade of my life. That was a that was like 622 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: a real period of my life. But there were a 623 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of times that in that period I started to see, oh, 624 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: we're label mates, we homies, but we're label mates, and 625 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: you can't you can't forget that because you didn't grow 626 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: up with these people. You met these people on some 627 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: business shit, so people people get traded. At this time, 628 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: we still got the same uniform on. So I'm looking 629 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: at it like, damn, I would have thought we could 630 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: at least open up. You know what I'm saying, like 631 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: thro take us out there like Tune took you or 632 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: or Nikki too. You know what I'm saying, like, take 633 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: us out there like you took dadg Loaf or this 634 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: one and this one. Even if we not hot, like that, 635 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: make us hot. Somebody made you hot now once again, 636 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: to be fair, to be fair, this is just me 637 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: and my feeling here at that time as a younger artist. 638 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm in my feelings because I'm like, yo, we crewe 639 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: we We didn't both had to go chase the tour 640 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: people around for pudem before. Like did you communicate that 641 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: to Drake or did Drake ever like know that you 642 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: you were? Once again, what I'm saying is, at that time, 643 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: we were in our feelings about shit. I'm saying might 644 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: have been in his feelings about shit with us that 645 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: we don't know about. You know, he might have been 646 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: in his feelings with about Wayne or Tesz or you 647 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was times that Wayne might 648 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: have been in his feelings with some shit about tests 649 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: and Drake might have paid for it, you know what 650 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it might have been some times that 651 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Wayne wasn't He just wasn't fucking with New York. And 652 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: when I walk in the room, it's just like fucking 653 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: old New York ass nigga nothing. It's not like the 654 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: end of the world. It's not in person, but you 655 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: gotta think when you around people. As long as we 656 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: was around each other, young money, shit was a long ride. 657 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: That shit wasn't like no two three year you hot 658 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: and then you hear it's like nah, we all went 659 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: from one bus. We was all on Wayne bus to 660 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: now it's Wayne Buss and an artist bus. Now we're 661 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: all on the artist bus. To now it's Wayne Buster, 662 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: artist bus, Drake Bus, Nikki Bust, the band bust, the 663 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: dancers bus, the chef bust, the crew. Like that shit changed. 664 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: I went from doing clubs to performing in front of 665 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: When I say Jay, you say males, Jay, Jay, where 666 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: you at Milsey? And then my shit come on and 667 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I never heard people scream for me 668 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: like that. So it was a hell of a ride. 669 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: But in along that ride, you did learn shit. You 670 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You did learn that, Yo, Drake, 671 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: don't gotta do nothing for you nothing. Now, once I 672 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: got that through my head, I was cool. It's like, yo, 673 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not tripping. If he come out 674 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: with six or seven albums and I'm not on none 675 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: of them, I could still find the dopeness in the 676 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: fucking album. It's like, it's cool, bro, It's not the 677 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: end of the world if somebody don't pull you along, 678 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: like especially if you never told me you was gonna 679 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: pull me along and it's all in your head. You 680 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Did you ever help Wayne with 681 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: any writing? Because and this is a thing too, I 682 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: want because there was like there's there's been a lot 683 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: of rumors about like Gilly used to write for him, 684 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: and well I wasn't around for that. Was I wasn't 685 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: around for the Gilly show. I mean, like you got 686 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: at like did he ever tap in with you for 687 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: some bars? I will say this, There's been many times 688 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: that we're in the studio and Wayne might be like, 689 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: y'all tell me what you think it is yo, okay 690 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: m m, but yeah, like that's what I got for 691 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: right now. But I feel like that's natural. That's like 692 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: any studio. I will go down stairs in the studio 693 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: with Wayne and be like, Yo, this I got. I 694 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: got like twelve, but I don't know if how she 695 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: does sixteen or twelve, but this is what I got. 696 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to say this next, but I don't know 697 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: how that ship sound like what you say that. But 698 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: if you flip it this way and just say it 699 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: like this, so that mean Wayne wrote for me. Now, 700 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: that's just because I watched Kanye West go in the 701 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: studio Kanye. I watched Kanye play Lucifer for jay Z 702 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: and say I'm from the murder Capital where we murder 703 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: for capitals. If you don't use this, I'm gonna use 704 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: this for my album. And then jay Z got on 705 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: there and said I gotta get these devils out my 706 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: life and then cut it off and said, oh my, 707 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: oh god, I never read the Bible. Damn my life. 708 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: On Faith the Black, he says that I watched Kanye 709 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: go in there and give him Lucifer and say I'm 710 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: from the murder Capitol where they murder for capitals. Jay 711 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: Z was not from the Murder Capital Kanye West was. 712 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: But we will never say Kanye West wrote for jay Z. True. 713 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: We will never, even with clear fucking footage of it 714 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: in Fade the Black, we will never say Kanye West 715 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: wrote for jay Z. Well, why do you think the 716 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: Drake thing was recepted so differently? I think I think 717 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: personally it was because we heard the references. Yeah, and 718 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: that's kind of like, Oh, I think with Wayne too, 719 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: it was big because I think it only comes so 720 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: heavy like that when it's somebody you respect. So when 721 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: Gilly said this shit about Wayne, it was like, Nah, 722 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: Wayne been nice since he was thirteen. He didn't even 723 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: know you didn't, so how you saying you wrote? And 724 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he was saying it like that. I 725 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: think he was just saying there was a time where 726 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: I was influencing the way that he rapped. Now. I 727 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: could understand that because we younger than Gilly. So I 728 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: was a major Figures fan too. I was on Dutch 729 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: and Spade too. I was on all that shit, Like 730 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: I bought Major Figures. I bought the album. You know 731 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I understood Gilly was with Suave House 732 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: and Tony Draper and ab Liva before he got was 733 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: I was a fan, I not was m still as 734 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: a fan with major figures, I'll still say they was 735 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: dead nice. So I can understand where Gilly's influence. He 736 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: could say like I influenced the all that swag raping 737 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: the dragon, the words, but I don't like you wrote 738 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: like wrote for him once again, I can't say he didn't, 739 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: but I could see what he could say he influenced him. 740 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: But Wayne is so like articulate with the way he 741 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: put his ship together. He he wants to put it together, 742 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He wants the craft in 743 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: and put it together. Now you can help him. You 744 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: could tell him, Nah, I don't think you should say it. 745 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: You should say it this way. But if I was 746 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: in here recording something, you might tell me that. Yo, Jay, 747 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: I think you that shit might have been crazy if 748 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: you would have said, oh shit, you know what, keV, 749 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: You're right, let's do it over. You know what I'm saying. 750 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: I think like you said with the Drake shit, we 751 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: heard the references. Yeah, the Drake thing. When you heard 752 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: the references, and it's like that was supposed to be 753 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: the go that was a little crazy, supposed to be 754 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. It's the same 755 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: that was a little crazy. But that's different than what 756 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about. What we're talking about is, hey, we're 757 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: in the studio, let me help you with with the 758 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: with the Drake joint. Was it like the same verse 759 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: and all of that, or was the same like melody 760 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: of words and he changed some of the worlds. It 761 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: was the same shit. It was the same hook, same verse, 762 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: the same shit. Quentin Miller Man, No, I know he 763 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: did it, But I do also think listen to think 764 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: that Drake is incredible with his pen as an ignorant 765 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: thought to have. I think Drake is like one of 766 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: the best artists ever. Of course, I think, of course, 767 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: if we're having that discussion, like in life, everybody included. 768 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: So I just think that if you're Drake, you're probably 769 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: so fucking busy, Like he's probably torn doing all kinds 770 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: of shit and people are sending references and he might 771 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, that shits hot, Like let me Like, 772 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: I personally don't rappers do that all the time, man, 773 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: I know they do. It's just it was him. It's 774 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: Drake that the references came out on because once again, 775 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: I will always go back to this, like Fade the 776 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: Black with Kanye West and jay Z. Nobody will ever 777 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: say Kanye West wrote for jay Z, but they'll turn 778 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: around and say somebody wrote for Kanye, but they won't 779 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: give him that same respect and be like he took 780 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: a song into jay Z's session, said this is the 781 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: hook and if you don't use this, I'm gonna use 782 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: it on my album. And if you go pull up 783 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: the Black album, he word for words said yah shit 784 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: that Ya brought him in the studio and we overlooked it. 785 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: We overlooked it because Drake ain't jay Z at that time. 786 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 1: But Drake is up there man now. At that time, 787 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: we were still talking about oh, he wrapped on the 788 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: BlackBerry on Flex. Yeah, And it was only because you've 789 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: seen him with the BlackBerry. I know a million rappers 790 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: that went up to funk Master Flex show and their 791 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: phone is on the speaker, but you can't see it. 792 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: People come to our show all the time. Don't tell 793 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: me this, Let's just go to Sun else. Don't tell 794 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: me this. I've had artists have their lyrics on my 795 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: laptop in front of them and the laptops off. Are 796 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: you doing this? Man? But to be fair, because you 797 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: know it's funny because they're gonna know exactly who you're 798 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: talking about when this no no, no, Like one of 799 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: my boys, I'm cool listening. One of the homies. I'm 800 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: not gonna say his name, really close close friend of 801 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: he wrote the ship like when he got to the stage. 802 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: That's different. So that is different, that's different. But no, 803 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: he wrote it on the spot, that's dope. He literally 804 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: was like, yo, throwing a beat and then he was like, 805 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: give me like twenty minutes and I'll have something now 806 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: that's dope. And then he and then he was like, yeah, 807 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: I got something written that's different. I can respect that. Yes, Now, 808 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: there has been artists that have come in who literally 809 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: put their phone on the thing. And then I got 810 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: to I'm like, because I'm like, I want a good freestyle. 811 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: So I'm out of camera and I'm literally with my 812 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: fingers scrolling down there. That shit happens. Yeah, But this 813 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: is one thing I do want to say about the 814 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: Young Money shit. I feel like the way the Young 815 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: Money shit played out for all of us, believe it 816 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: or not, believe it, or not. That was exactly how 817 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: I was supposed to play out. If I could say, Man, 818 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Wayne fucked my shit up, that'd be different. I can't 819 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: say Wayne fucked my shit up. The good outwegh to bad. 820 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: He did more than he didn't do, you know what 821 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I might could say I ain't gonna 822 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: lie I was a little I was a little hot 823 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: behind Club Paradise. It might be the only thing that 824 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: I could say I was ever hot behind with Drake. 825 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: But I could name so much of a good ship, 826 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I could say, well, Nikki 827 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: never really like took me onto a nehba, same way 828 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: Drake didn't. She never really put me on nothing like 829 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: that neither, but stopped it stopped there. I can't say 830 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: anything else. And it's and those things are me and 831 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: my feelings. That's artist ship, that's rapper ship. Thinking you. 832 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say ego ship. I would say it's feeling like, uh, 833 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: what's the word, uh not prideful, feeling like you uhled 834 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: entitlement that and that that we crew. So I'm entitled 835 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: to first DIBs on something or what you did for 836 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: that artist. You could have did that for me. We crew. 837 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: It's that that's that entitlement, you know what I'm saying, 838 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: so and not saying that you partially shouldn't have that 839 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: entitlement with your team, you know what I'm saying. But 840 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: some of it might have just been me thinking too much. 841 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: But once again, the good outwegh to bad with everybody. 842 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: So it's not like that's not changing. It's not like, oh, 843 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't follow that nigga, ain't like him. I don't care. 844 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't care about she just had kids. Don't give 845 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: fuck if it's his son's birthday on kid. It's like, Bro, 846 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: that shit was It's not that Sari, It's not that deep. Okay, 847 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: So you're behind the scenes. I want to know because 848 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: pusha T Is one of my favorite rappers ever. Push 849 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: your T has been He was poking and prodding at 850 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: little Wayne for years ever since mister Me too, which 851 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: is for long. That's prior to you being with Young Money, 852 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: that sugar Push your T and Young Money or Wayne, shit, 853 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: that should go back way before me. Like I just 854 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: I just probably only entertained it because I was young 855 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: money at the time. Yeah, because you know what I'm saying, 856 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: it took Wayne. I want to say it was maybe 857 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: three or four years ago he finally said push his 858 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: name on a record or it was, I don't remember 859 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: what he said. He's finally acknowledged push your ta officially, 860 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: and I was like wow, but like was that like 861 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 1: was that something that like like like was a known 862 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: issue in the crew, like, man, this fuck these guys 863 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: over here, Man, they're fucking disrespect now you know why? 864 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: Because Wayne be in his own little world, So Wayne 865 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: don't really listen, like he don't really be knowing what 866 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: be going on. It'd be like me or gutt or 867 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: like show him something. Yeah, a little twist would always 868 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: come in and show him some shit on the laptop 869 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: or or Twitter or Instagram. Here a big bro, look 870 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: at this. So he would be so far into his 871 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: music he wouldn't really know about like the darts, but 872 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: when he find out about it, it'd be like a 873 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: word or pull that shit up, let me see that shit. 874 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: And then everybody, like all assistance and managers to be like, 875 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: oh god, males, why did you get them started? I 876 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: remember we was in the studio and Yay came to 877 00:43:53,360 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: play him over this Atoven production. I don't know if 878 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 1: I even wanted to know his story, you gotta started. 879 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: But first time Wayne heard he heard him right, he 880 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: didn't feel that ship. Uh the damn what was the 881 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: barn then? Man? I just remember the baby money you got, 882 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: baby money. That ain't my late something, my lady money. 883 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: That's baby money you got like it was some ship 884 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: like that. M Wayne walked out the room, song still playing, 885 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: like just went to go get like a cup of 886 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,439 Speaker 1: water and ship like yeah. And I remember like two 887 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: days later he did a song. Was he Drake, Jada 888 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 1: Kiss and Wayne? Was that Carter three? Kidnap your bitch, 889 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: Kidnap your bitch, See how much you love your lady money? 890 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: That was Carter three? I think that was that was 891 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: I think it was Drake. It might have been. It 892 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 1: might have been called A four. Carter Foy was Drake, 893 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: Jadakiss and Wayne. Because Washing the Throne came out in 894 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, it was four four apart, it was four. 895 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: I remember, I don't remember much from that album. It 896 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: wasn't good. This is when I liked Carter four. It 897 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: just wasn't Carter three. It just wasn't Carter three. Carter 898 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: four was fired it, Uh, I remember he was like, Yo, 899 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: y'all think that's too much, And everybody was like, nah, 900 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: I think you should take that ball out. Man, I 901 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 1: don't think you should really say that. Man, fuck that ship. 902 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: Say that shit. Everybody got mad at me. So when 903 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: he's like you know what, I was like, Yo, do 904 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: you feel like he was talking about you? Not necessarily? 905 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, this's his words. It ain't like you. 906 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: It ain't like if he was talking about you. He 907 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 1: said that it was j So at this point, nigga, 908 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: you you you you just sold a million records. Of 909 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: course first week, came home and you about to do 910 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: it again. This is you you right now if you 911 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: feel this is just a battle rapper and at this time, 912 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: but this is how much I fuck with Wayne. This 913 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: is this is what Wayne looks at me for. You 914 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like, do you feel like 915 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: it was a shot? You? I'm like, nah, seriously, do 916 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: you feel it was a shot? Because if you didn't 917 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: feel it was a shot, you wouldn't have thought of 918 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: the ball you thought of So you asking us for 919 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: validation to go in there to go say what you feel? Now? 920 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 1: You know what you right? He went in there turn 921 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: me up lighter, everybody looking at me. Yeah, because I 922 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: do feel like, why would you tell him to do that? 923 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: There was like this period of time where and I'm like, 924 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: why not, though, I'm like, at the end of the day, 925 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: it's words, it's a sport, it's rap. It's not like 926 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: he said I'm gonna kill you. You felt he said 927 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: something and you wanted to say something back. Do you rap? 928 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that there was some contention growing 929 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: between Hove and Wayne. I feel like there's some contention 930 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: growing between Hove and anybody else that gets hot to 931 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: the point where they're on his radar. Yeah, because I 932 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: remember I remember that we should go that should go 933 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: back to nas Well, there was the rumors that that 934 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: Wayne was gonna leave Cash Money and then signed with 935 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: Rocking Rock. I remember that. I remember that being a 936 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: thing a few different times, and then and then it 937 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: seemed like they been back before I was with Young Money. 938 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: I think Wayne and Jay had some business history. I 939 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: think Jay was gonna sign him or he was going 940 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: to give him, like a situation to something that go 941 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: back and then it said what happened said in an 942 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: interview that they were talking mm hmm. But then there 943 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: was like after the Carter three, it felt like there 944 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: was like this almost like an unspoken like like like 945 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: energy between the two where it was like Wayne was 946 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: the only guy who was like challenging Hove. Is that dude? 947 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: And I felt like that. I feel like it was 948 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: definitely like was that talked about like openly or was 949 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: it more just like you mean amongst us like the crew, Nah, 950 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: we always looked at even Wayne. Wayne look at Jay 951 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: like Jay, you the go. But Wayne his favorite like 952 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 1: person ever is like Prince Kobe Bryant. Like if anybody 953 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: knows Wayne, they will tell you mails No, Wayne off 954 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 1: that it's Prince and Kobe Bryant. Michael Jackson is cool, 955 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: but to Wayne, Michael Jackson isn't Prince, you know what 956 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Jordan Jordan is cool too, but to Wayne, yeah, 957 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: Kobe could have won seven, you know what I'm saying. 958 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: So it's like menia. His mentality is I love Mike, 959 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: but I'm coming at him. And I think that's what 960 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: it always was with Jay, even if you go back 961 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: to I'm the best rapper alive since the best rapper retired, 962 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: and then once JD wasn't retiring no more. He never 963 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: stopped calling himself the best rapper alive though. He just 964 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: kept calling himself. It's like, oh you back. I thought 965 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: it was my turn. I thought you was retiring. Well 966 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm still. I'm still that nigga here. So if you 967 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: that nigga and I'm I'm the best, though I know 968 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: you might be the greatest, but I'm the best, Like 969 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 1: right now, I'm the best. And I think Wayne just 970 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: carried that shit for so long. He carried that shit 971 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: for so long. It's you heard it when you when 972 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: you heard him about to come on a song, you 973 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: just felt that energy like he just feel he about 974 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: to come on. He used to tell us that he 975 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: used to play beats and look at me and Drake 976 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: and Nikki and Tyger Gutto whoever's on the song. Oh, 977 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm just letting your balls know, like I'm gonna kill 978 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: all your niggas on this song right now and turn 979 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: around and just turn the ship all the way back 980 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: up and like this blood that's crazy. So when you 981 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: at some point, now we come on the record like 982 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,240 Speaker 1: that too. Now, Nikki, come on, I'm a motherfucking mine stuff. 983 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: But she come on like I want to kill I 984 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: don't think Little Chucky ever playing a record like that. Damn, Yo, 985 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: you really don't like Chucky was horrible. I was like, 986 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: why these Why is he signing these twelve year old 987 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,479 Speaker 1: children who can't rap? Shout out to Chuck and shout 988 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: out to Twists. Man. Look, the views of Bootleg keV 989 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: are nothing to do with the views and Mills. Yeah, 990 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: I can you know what though, I can respect, Nah, 991 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to say I could respect because those 992 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: still my little homies forever. I can understand a person 993 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: like you being like, nah, they was fucking trash because 994 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: they could look. Look who they standing next to. They 995 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: standing next to Wayne Drake, Nikki Tiger Mills. I'm godly 996 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: with this lyric. If I never put out an album 997 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: with Young Money. I always used to say I was 998 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: who I was before I got here. I'm godly. I'm 999 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna let you know me for what you know me for. 1000 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: This can't change that, it can add on. I have 1001 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: plaques for one hundred million streams, and I have plaques 1002 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: for four times Platinum, two times Platinum, Billboard Peak one 1003 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: Peak two Peak seven. That's more than I had before 1004 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: I got there. True, So the good outway to bad. 1005 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying a lot of people, they 1006 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: might have loved Drake and Wayne, but they looked at me, 1007 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: how you looked that little chucky in a little twist 1008 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: like oh my god, Jay Mills and Gutta Gutta was 1009 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: fucking horrible. They may look at us like it's just 1010 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: like these people that may look at me and gut 1011 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: a gutting like nah, they was killing dedication through they 1012 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: held They held a lot of them mixtapes up when 1013 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 1: other artists wasn't on them ships. Now, you had said 1014 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: something to me last week. You said you were around 1015 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: Young Money enough to see everyone get kicked out at 1016 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: least once. Oh shit, I said that to you. I did, 1017 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: I did? I did. So explain to me the times 1018 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: in which both Nikki and Drake were kicked out of 1019 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 1: Young Money, because that seems like a preposterous thing. You 1020 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: want to hear. You want to hear the story about 1021 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: how Nikki and Drake were once kicked out of it 1022 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: was probably only lasted for about a day or two, right, 1023 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: But or do you want to hear when I got 1024 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: kicked out of? You? All of them? But which which 1025 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: one do you want to hear first, whatever you feel, 1026 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: I'll give you the Nicky and Drake shit first because 1027 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: they're bigger names and that'll probably be more entertaining for y'all. 1028 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 1: I remember or I saw with Nicki Nicki if you 1029 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: remember that one time she was managed by Dad Walker 1030 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: Moms yep, yeah, and Dad had a work and had 1031 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: her out there with Gucci, and you know, I think 1032 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: Dad was managing French at that time. So she used 1033 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: to do like some shit like Gucci to be booked. 1034 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: But French and Nicki get a bag too, and they 1035 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: come together. So it got to a point when we 1036 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: started going out because we used to record a lot 1037 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Miami and shit like that. But now when 1038 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: Carter three come out Wayne on the road and he 1039 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 1: used to tell us shit like he used to tell 1040 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: me a lot. This is what made me start coming. 1041 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I don't think it's fair to 1042 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: the other artists that you get to go home and 1043 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: then fly back when you want to come back out. 1044 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: Like they don't go home, they just they they on 1045 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: the road with me. But I had never been a 1046 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: part of nothing like that to understand an artist like 1047 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: him that lives on the road like lives on a 1048 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: tour bus. You know what I'm saying. I was more 1049 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: like a well when y'all come to New York or 1050 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: you want me to come back out? Let me know. 1051 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: His thing was, Miles, I fuck with you. You need 1052 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: to be here whenever what you're there for, what you're 1053 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: doing there, Young money ain't in New York. We on 1054 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: the road while you're there, you young money, right, And 1055 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: then it hit me like, all right, I gotta be 1056 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: here more so Nicki at that time, she was booked, 1057 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: so she got her own She's building like her own 1058 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: Nicki Lewinsky. You know what I'm saying. She building her 1059 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: own little Thingcottie Tape in them clubs. Like she was 1060 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: getting getting bags while we riding the bus with Wayne 1061 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: and we you know he bringing us out. She doing 1062 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: that too, but she might have a bag to get 1063 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: in South Carolina or here here. And I think he 1064 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: started to feel like, you know, he never wanted nobody 1065 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: to feel like they was better than another artist, Like 1066 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't want Nikki to feel like she better than 1067 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: Chanelle or Guns just because she booked. But I don't 1068 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: want Mills to feel like he bigger than Twist or 1069 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: Chucky just because he been on TV with Diddy before 1070 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 1: and he did battles and he had deals. Like we 1071 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: all at the same level. You're all the same level 1072 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: field right now. Like let's look don't look down on nobody, 1073 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: because I ain't looking down on you now. If you're 1074 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,479 Speaker 1: gonna look down on a little Chucky or little Twist, 1075 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: or you're gonna look down on guns, I gotta look 1076 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: down on you now, Mills, I have to, you know 1077 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So once we got that shit in 1078 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: our mind, Wayne was looking at it. I think like 1079 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 1: Nicki doing her own thing. I think Wayne was looking 1080 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: at it on some shit like oh, she trying to 1081 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: be over here and over here and kind of see 1082 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: which one pop first. You gotta remember, it wasn't no 1083 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: every girl in the world yet. It wasn't no we 1084 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: was just Wayne's crew, you know what I'm saying. But 1085 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: Gucci was still Gucci. Like French wasn't big, big, big 1086 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: French Montana yet, but he coke boys and he so 1087 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: he don't know if like NICKI was like you fucking 1088 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: over you over here, like you fucking with us or 1089 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: you fucking with them? You fuck? And I think he 1090 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: just had one of them days where he was like, yo, 1091 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: she ain't young on money, no more like and then 1092 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: she started just working. She'll be at video shoots here 1093 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: and there, change hair color, start wearing tight dresses. And 1094 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: did he tell that to her? I don't know if you, 1095 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to say he told it 1096 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 1: to her. He probably told matt Or told Tesz to 1097 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: call or whatever. She never said nothing. He never said nothing. 1098 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: And then him being a businessman and just understanding where 1099 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: he trying to take young money. I think he told 1100 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 1: mac or Tez, like, yo, we put in too much 1101 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: work to just let her go, like tell, I said, 1102 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then she was back 1103 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: on the road with us, but she was still doing 1104 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: her own thing. But she was back on the road. 1105 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: But I can understand how he could feel like that, 1106 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: because it's like, Yo, is you over here or is 1107 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: you over there? Is like, what is you doing right now? 1108 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So they came to their agreement, 1109 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: and after that everything was cool, you know what I'm saying. 1110 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: But I think it was a misunderstanding. It wasn't like 1111 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: it was a miscommunication somewhere. Same thing with the Drake shit. 1112 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: I think Wayne and Drake thing at that time was 1113 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: more so Wayne and Taz, you know what I'm saying, 1114 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: Like Wayne trusting Taz with shit and then finding out 1115 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: like some shit might not be what it is, and like, 1116 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: but now Drake is in the middle of it because 1117 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's that business, that paperwork shit 1118 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: and like all of that type of shit. I think 1119 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: that was an issue, you know what I'm saying. And 1120 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: I was in the studio with Drake in New York 1121 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: and cool chilling everything, cool smokey recording, and he went 1122 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: up and went in the hallway and came back and 1123 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: I was like, you good. He's like yeah, man, he's 1124 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: like to just telling me I'm not young money no more, 1125 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: same thing you just did. I was like, like, where 1126 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 1: the fuck did that come from? Like, because this is 1127 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 1: at a time where like every girl is out like 1128 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 1: we you know, we charting, like Drake's doing like, uh 1129 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: say something and did you new girl? Like he's doing 1130 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: like features now for Mary J and Drake, I mean 1131 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: not Drake, Mary J, Jamie Fox. Yeah, he doing like 1132 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: shit outside of the box. And I think it was 1133 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: that same thing again. It was like that Yo, what 1134 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: y'all like, because there's so much shit going on, but 1135 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 1: Wayne don't know, you know what I'm saying, He don't 1136 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: know what the fuck is going on with his artists. 1137 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: And I think that was the thing with Drake. It 1138 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't really nothing with Drake, because even Drake 1139 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: told him, he was like, he said, it really don't 1140 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with you and me. Just knowing Wayne, 1141 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: I know he was having one of them days where 1142 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: it's like, fuck, is everybody keeping me in the dark 1143 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: with shit? If these is? This is my shit? You 1144 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And just once again miscommunication miss 1145 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: seeing the same thing with fucking what Little Twist? I mean, 1146 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: we don't. Little Twist wasn't in the Bedrock video. If 1147 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: you notice, Little Chucky was all through the Bedrock video, 1148 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: but he wasn't on the song. Was it because Wayne 1149 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 1: wasn't fucking the matter? Because got him trouble in school 1150 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: or some shit like that, whoor tutoring or son happened 1151 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: with his moms like, so Wayne wouldn't let him be 1152 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: in the video. He just let Little Chucky be all 1153 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: through that. He let Little Chucky be the extra in 1154 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: everybody's verse. That's so funny. That's so funny. You know 1155 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I remember, I don't want people to 1156 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: feel like this nigga just want to sit up there 1157 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: and tell stories while people all day. No, I'm just 1158 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: telling you real shit, and I'm gonna tell you about 1159 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: when my stupid ass got kicked out. If you remember 1160 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: the BET Awards, when Drake's foot was hert he had 1161 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: just fucked his foot up when he was on tour. 1162 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: He had tours acl but he still came out and 1163 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: performed at the BT Awards, and I think Reginee came 1164 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: out on stage. It wasn't meant to be disrespectful, but 1165 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: they was performing every girl. I say they because as 1166 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: I tell this story, this is gonna fuck everybody up. 1167 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: So when they was performing every girl and Drake was 1168 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: sitting in a chair and the kids came out, they 1169 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: pulled the performance and they never showed it again because 1170 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: we was performing. I just want to fuck every girl 1171 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: in the world. And people had their kids up there 1172 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: and we were just happy that we made it to 1173 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,479 Speaker 1: the awards show. You know what I'm saying. Wayne usually 1174 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: performed with the hot boys cash Money. This is like everybody, 1175 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 1: this is like young money, the shit that he had, 1176 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: the plan he had for us, this shit came to life. 1177 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: We on stage BT Awards. J Miles wasn't on that stage. 1178 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: J Mills was in New York on one hundred and 1179 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: twelve and fifth Avenue down the block from the Projects, 1180 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: looking at that performance at his homies crib. Vodo was 1181 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: there with me. Shout to Vado and the girl that 1182 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: I had pregnant at that time sitting next to me, 1183 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: about eight months pregnant, and I'm looking at them perform like, oh, 1184 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm done. I missed my flight. Two flights. Two flights 1185 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: flights from New York Airport, had a whole nother flight 1186 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: books from JFK by the time I got the JFK 1187 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: missed that one too. We have to perform at the 1188 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: BT Awards first live TV performance. Now my verse was performed, 1189 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: but it wasn't me who performed it. Shout out to 1190 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: my brother mac Maine because at that time we both 1191 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: had the same facial here and we both had like 1192 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: low seasons and ship and we was like husky chubby, 1193 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: husky type dudes. Hey, you just want to stay with 1194 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: some shades, and he I ain't you know that's wild. 1195 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I ain't being disrespectful, baby, I'm just being Mac damn. 1196 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: But luckily for Milsey, the fucking performance got pulled, so 1197 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: it never even ended up happening like it, but it happened. 1198 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: You just can't find it anywhere. Yeah, I mean you 1199 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,919 Speaker 1: made somebody may have uploaded the YouTube or some ship 1200 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: like that, but yeah, but it didn't actually make the 1201 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: broadcast not live. And then when they whenever they showed 1202 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the after that, they just never showed that performance. Now, 1203 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: this is all a part of my getting kicked out 1204 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: of the Young Money story. So Mac like, Yo, we 1205 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: uh were in New York, but were about to leave. 1206 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: You know, we're about to leave from whre the jet 1207 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: leave from. We're about to go to Paris. Were about 1208 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: to go do the Paris Run and overseas and all 1209 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: that shit. So Mac was like, I don't really want 1210 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 1: you to miss this because you know you need to 1211 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: be here. You know too, Mad He ain't fucking with you, 1212 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: like you're not Young Money right now, he said, But 1213 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to see you know what 1214 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let's just you gotta face it, you 1215 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying say you can't just chill because 1216 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: if you chill, he'll never call you again. So I 1217 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: will say, if it wasn't for Mac Main, I would 1218 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: have been curved from young money a long time, a 1219 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: long time ago. So regardless, and me and Mac we 1220 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: done have a million disagreements, almost came to fights a 1221 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 1: million times. Mac Main is like a big brother to me, 1222 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Like he's like the big brother that you always get 1223 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: into a fight with, but he kind of always right 1224 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: years later, like the shit he was telling you years 1225 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: ago that y'all got in an argument about shit. Kind 1226 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: of he kind of was right, but he kind of 1227 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: didn't worry it right, and he always both fiery at 1228 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: that time. So Mac was like, yo, just come to 1229 01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: the jet and let's just see if he wants you 1230 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: to come to Paris with us. So when I get 1231 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: some I get to the jet. They not there yet, 1232 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: so I just get on the jet and I just 1233 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: wait for them to put He's like, well a few 1234 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: minutes away. So I remember they got on the jet, right, 1235 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: So I remember, I'm me and Tad. I think streets 1236 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: a couple of people, Mac man assistant everybody get up 1237 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: on the joint and they look at me and just go. 1238 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: So I'm dabbing everybody. But you know, like on the jet. 1239 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Well let's say were on the jet and you coming 1240 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: in right here, and we got the sofa right here. 1241 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: They got the captain seats right there. You know, Wayne 1242 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: sit all the way in the back, all his bags everything, 1243 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm sitting on the sofa. Thay, everybody 1244 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: walking by dapping me. So Wayne get on the He 1245 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: get on the jet right so he get up, he 1246 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: look at me. He just keep walking like it threw 1247 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: them off to see me. Right. So now we're waiting, 1248 01:02:50,640 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: jet about to take off. So everybody talking. A couple 1249 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: of people talking to me. But I noticed Wayne his 1250 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: conversation ain't reaching where I'm at. So he back there, 1251 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: he listened to his music, you know, looking out the window. 1252 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: So I said, all right, this ain't this ain't like 1253 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: friend shit. This is business right now. You have to 1254 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: go apologize, like you missed a little you missed a 1255 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 1: performance at the BET Awards. You have to go speak 1256 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 1: to this man. I walked back there. I was like, yo, 1257 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, my fault for missing the flight. 1258 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I apologize. I know that 1259 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 1: shit was unprofessional. Blah blah blah blah blah, and like 1260 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: he looked at me said he said, what you say? 1261 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: So I was like, now I'm talking about the fight. 1262 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: He said, no, I heard you, but I'm asking you 1263 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: what you say. I said, you're right. I just went 1264 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 1: and sat back down. From Teeterborough to Paris, this man 1265 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,919 Speaker 1: did not say a word to me, spoke to everybody 1266 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: else joking ha ha ha. Food just kept walking by 1267 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: me the whole flight, even when we got the Paris checked. 1268 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I had my It wasn't like he shit it on 1269 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: me when I got to Paris, but behind closed doors, 1270 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: I felt that shit like I was definitely on like 1271 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: curve time for a while. And if it wasn't for 1272 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: mac Maine like telling me, like yo, just come to 1273 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 1: the jet and like just see what happened, if I 1274 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: would have been on some bit shit and been like, nah, man, 1275 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: fuck that shit. If he ain't fucking with me, he 1276 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 1: ain't fucking with me, Like you know what I'm saying, 1277 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Like I had to eat that shit, but I was wrong, 1278 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's my story of 1279 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: when I got fucking curved. You know what I'm saying, 1280 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I definitely thought it was over for me though, now 1281 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: you're you're independent. Now, when what year did you like 1282 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: officially have like an official split away from Young Money. 1283 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I know it was cordial. Yeah, I left Young Money 1284 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: the end of twenty sixteen, and I'm gonna tell you 1285 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 1: where I left h into twenty sixteen. I had my 1286 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: surgery already. I had a surgery in twenty fifteen to 1287 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: remove to him my throat. My daughter was born in 1288 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: twenty and twelve, so twenty sixteen, she going on five. 1289 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm not the same dude I was in two thousand 1290 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: and seven, you know what I'm saying. I'm not the 1291 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: same twenty seven year old kid running around wanting to 1292 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 1: fuck every girl in the world at this point, like 1293 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 1: I got a little girl in this world now, Like 1294 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: just the way I think now is different. And then 1295 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 1: it's like, now it's bad with Wayne and Birdman now, 1296 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Oh yeah, and I want yeah, yeah, shit, 1297 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: it was bad and I'm one of them, And I 1298 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 1: was always good with Birdman and Wayne, you know what 1299 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we was all kind of caught in 1300 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the shit now. But now it's like 1301 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. I'm a rider to the wheels 1302 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: fall off dude at that point, and I feel like, 1303 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: to some people, Mills you should have been left. I 1304 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: remember busting round seeing me in a sneaker store in 1305 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Miami and being like, Yo, what are you doing? What 1306 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 1: you're waiting for? Like you're waiting for them to stop 1307 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: fucking with you, like to make you feel that, or 1308 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna like just see it, you know what I'm saying. 1309 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: But at that time, I'm like, Nah, he gave me 1310 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 1: a chance. I owe him a little bit more to 1311 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: leave because it's not good right now. You know what 1312 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because it's not good right now, I owe 1313 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 1: him a little bit more than to leave right now. 1314 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 1: I gotta ride this one out, you know what I'm saying, 1315 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: Even if my loyalty is turning into stupidity, I owe 1316 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: him this to ride this out with him. You know 1317 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now, When it got to a point 1318 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: where I just didn't know what I was doing no more, right, 1319 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I didn't know when I 1320 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: come around if I was supposed to be there or not. 1321 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't know if like 1322 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm overstaying and this is just real shit because I 1323 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: never really said this to a lot of people in 1324 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: young Money. I never said this to Wayne, you know 1325 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like real shit. I never said this 1326 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 1: to Birdman or mac Maine or nothing like that. But 1327 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: I just felt like I was overstaying my welcome, and 1328 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I felt like the Southern hospitality wasn't gonna let them 1329 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: shit on me. You know what I'm saying, that they 1330 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 1: got good hearts, they not fucked up individuals. I'm never 1331 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna say that, you know what I'm saying, But I 1332 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: think that Southern hospitality of you know what I'm saying. 1333 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I fuck with him, but I just don't know what 1334 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: to do with him, you know what I'm saying. I 1335 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 1: think that was just like and he a good, a 1336 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,919 Speaker 1: good you know, millsy family, you know what I'm saying. 1337 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: So it got to I could either be family and 1338 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 1: just you know, you don't know what they trying to 1339 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: do with you, and they don't really know what they 1340 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: trying to do with you, and just to be real 1341 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 1: with you, they don't have an idea of doing anything 1342 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: with you at this point, Like this is the rebuild 1343 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: of Lil Wayne at this time, because I remember during 1344 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: that period of time when he was beefing heavy with Birdman, 1345 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Wayne went on this like club run in the South 1346 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: where he was taking bags that like you would never 1347 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: have ever expected Wayne to take. Like he did a 1348 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: show in Tampa when I was living in town. That 1349 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: was around the time. I was like, I just had 1350 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: it was twenty fifteen, he said, like twenty fifteen. That 1351 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: was around that time I had my surgery and I 1352 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: think I was healing like he did. He did a 1353 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 1: show in Tampa for like forty bands at a nightclub, 1354 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: and I remember being like, wait, little Wayne doing something 1355 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 1: for forty thousand dollars, like, but I think it was 1356 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: because he was just I think I obviously speculation, but 1357 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,640 Speaker 1: I just think he was just grabbing cash. Yeah, I 1358 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 1: mean cash. At the end of the day, he was 1359 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: doing the whole HU but he was doing this whole 1360 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: club run that like you would never think Wayne would do. Yeah, yeah, 1361 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: And I was you know what it was for me? 1362 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Mostly it was I could even stay here because you 1363 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 1: gotta remember, I got a kid now, so I could 1364 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 1: even stay here and figure out what he going to do, 1365 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: or I could go figure out what I'm going to 1366 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 1: do because it's not like you're on a Young Money salary. No, 1367 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was assuming by like then it 1368 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: was not any income coming It wasn't like it was 1369 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,560 Speaker 1: no it was income coming in because we've been on 1370 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 1: hit records, we've been on album we still coming in. 1371 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,719 Speaker 1: But I mean, like as far as money, the plan 1372 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: like because at this time I'm looking at it like 1373 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: I I'm looking at like Drake on four fifth, Nikki 1374 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 1: on I'm looking at it like I R Now I'm 1375 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: looking at the what's the plan? Like what is the 1376 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: plan for me? Not what is the plan for Wayne? 1377 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is like the first 1378 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: time where now I really have to look at like, Bro, 1379 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,560 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna take you on tour, nobody's gonna throw you 1380 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,520 Speaker 1: on a single, nobody's gonna jump on your single, nobody's 1381 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 1: gonna promote your single, nobody's gonna promote any fucking thing 1382 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: you have going because everybody has their own shit going right, 1383 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: and shit is so different now. When I came around, 1384 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: people were still selling ring tones. By the time I left, 1385 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Young Money music was coming out on Fridays. Now right, 1386 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: no longer Tuesdays, It's no longer people lining up in 1387 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 1: front of the stores. All the stores closed, all the 1388 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 1: websites we used to send our music to some niggas 1389 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: is corn balls. Now you could just put it on 1390 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 1: streaming platform Why are we not putting our music on 1391 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: streaming platforms? Why is Wayne not putting projects on stream? 1392 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 1: Why doesn't Wayne have a four pack out? Why doesn't 1393 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Wayne have an EP out? Why don't we just put 1394 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 1: out a new Young Money mixtape to promote everybody who's 1395 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: sitting here ice fucking coal. And at that time, when 1396 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I got to think about all that, I'm a virgo, 1397 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I get lost in my own mind. It's like, Yo, 1398 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: back yourself out. It's like, Yo, you gotta go, you 1399 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: gotta go. Not a bad thing. Like man, fuck these niggas. 1400 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 1: They ain't do nothing for me. Nah whoa whoa. Young 1401 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 1: Money did more for J Mills than any other label 1402 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: did for J Mills. Even if y'all did put me 1403 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: on a promo, run and pay for the no No 1404 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 1: no video or put me here, put me there. I 1405 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: don't have no plaques. I don't have no plaques from 1406 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: anything before Young Money. I don't have big ass cap 1407 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: checks from anything before young money, so I could never say, man, niggas. 1408 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: The niggas held me up. Nah, you got lost in 1409 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: the midst of some great ship. It happens like that sometimes. 1410 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: Now what you're gonna do? Now, keep it moving, Learn 1411 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: how to produce, learn how to direct shoot your own videos. 1412 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had to figure it. 1413 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: I had to basically figure it out the same way 1414 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 1: I had to figure it out when I got with 1415 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,560 Speaker 1: your money. I have no deal. I'm taking shots in 1416 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 1: the dark. I could listen and see when I hit 1417 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 1: the rim. I'm close. Keep taking them fucking shots. What 1418 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: did you tell me the other day? It's the perfect 1419 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 1: time for somebody like you. Yeah, I told you, yo, 1420 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a record. Blah blah blah. And 1421 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 1: what did you tell me? Can I say what you 1422 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: told me about the radio record? Sure? Fuck the radio 1423 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,360 Speaker 1: right now? Man, facts facts, bro, And I work at 1424 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: the radio, And I told when I left because I 1425 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: had my lady with me, and when I left, we 1426 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 1: was talking about that ship, and I was like I 1427 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 1: needed to hear that, yeah, dog, to hear it because 1428 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: once again, like when we were talking about See I'm 1429 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,200 Speaker 1: only reiterating this because they wasn't here for the conversation 1430 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 1: other day. Like I was explaining to you that I'm 1431 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 1: from an era of the single. I'm from an era 1432 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 1: of the radio record or the party record. I moved 1433 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 1: to Miami two thousand and ten. That's prime strip club 1434 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: for sure. I was there for Live on Sunday King 1435 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: of Diamonds money. I know what that shit is like 1436 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: to be with somebody now, and I'm very underrated to 1437 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: I am super cheap. Let's just get that understood. I 1438 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 1: have never went to King of Diamonds and got singles. 1439 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Used to go every Monday. Likewise, See, I like to 1440 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: go to the strip club and eat food. What the 1441 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,560 Speaker 1: fuck am I getting money for? Wayne just got a 1442 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 1: box of ones a box and went here, here, here, 1443 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: What the fuck am I going to get singles for? 1444 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 1: So you think you think I'm impressing him, going to 1445 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: get this rack of singles? Hell not this. Niggas just 1446 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 1: want to sol a million and in the first week. 1447 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm gonna get out 1448 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: of his box. But that's the type of person he is. 1449 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 1: So like I used to always tell people when I 1450 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 1: got around young money. That fucked me up to be 1451 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: like when we on the road and he pulling the 1452 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: red lobster. We on an eighteen hour bus ride, he 1453 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 1: pulling the red lobster. I tell this story a lot 1454 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 1: because I'll be trying to paint a picture for people 1455 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: pulling the red lobster. He gets steak shrimp baked potato. 1456 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 1: It's twenty one orders of steak shrimping baked potatoes. I'm 1457 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 1: not paying for that. Who paid for that? You got? 1458 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 1: Are you chipping in for that? Mac? Who paying for this? Mac? 1459 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 1: Mills just order. Shit went like that for a long time. No, 1460 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 1: it went like that forever. It never stopped. So when 1461 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 1: it got to a point where, like you were saying, 1462 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, he taking a forty thoual bag, 1463 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,600 Speaker 1: He'll or a fifty thous bag here. It's like, I 1464 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: know why, you know what I'm saying, because that shit 1465 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 1: is on his shoulders and that's all he know since 1466 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 1: he was thirteen. All he know is that. All he 1467 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 1: know is that lifestyle chauffeur. He's overhead. Had to be crazy, 1468 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 1: it's all he know. You know what I'm saying. I 1469 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: always tell people if I was if I was if 1470 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: I was Lil Wayne like, if I had Lil Wayne 1471 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: money like, I would have been way worse. I would 1472 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 1: have been worse, way worse. But he had money since 1473 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 1: he was so young, so he understood how to take 1474 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: care of his homies, how to try to put j 1475 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,680 Speaker 1: Mills and Corey Gunns, and even if it don't work, 1476 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: he understood how to try. So I could accept that, 1477 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I don't know, man, 1478 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, like I said, the shit ended how 1479 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: it was supposed to end for me as far as 1480 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: that chapter. Now, of course, I still fuck with Wayne, 1481 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: I still fuck with everybody else. But do I think 1482 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I could have got more out of Young Money had 1483 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I stayed? You know, do you think you should have 1484 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: left earlier? Yeah? Yeah, I probably should have left Young 1485 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: Money years before I left. But once again, man, it 1486 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: is what it is. Wayne gave me an opportunity that 1487 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: nobody else has ever given me before was since So 1488 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel I did anything wrong, you know what 1489 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I feel like I could have left, But 1490 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 1: I remember people used to tell me, Man, you should 1491 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 1: go to Mayback, you should go to it, you should 1492 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: go here, you should go here, and if you think 1493 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 1: about it, Wayne was the only place I ever went 1494 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,560 Speaker 1: other than having my own deals. Yeah, I think that, like, 1495 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: signing with an artist is a crapshoot anyway, you know, 1496 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: when you signed with another artist. I think Wayne pulled 1497 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 1: it off nicely. With Nicky and Drake, I think Ross 1498 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 1: did a great job. But like, there's plenty more examples 1499 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 1: of rappers who have labels. Yo, God, he's doing a 1500 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: great job right now. Yeah, but there's plenty of other 1501 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 1: artists who it's like you just look and it's like 1502 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 1: the problem is most of the time, when you signed 1503 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 1: with an artist, they don't want the people they signed 1504 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: to be bigger than them. Yeah, and that's you know 1505 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,760 Speaker 1: with Wayne, that didn't happen with Ross that that wasn't 1506 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, some people been around so long it's 1507 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 1: not their first time. Like when Ross did the whole 1508 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Mayback music, shit, he had already did Triple C's right, Yeah, 1509 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 1: he had already already did writing for Slippings. He had 1510 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: already did so much shit, So it wasn't his first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1511 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: MMG Energy in like two thousand and like ten eleven, 1512 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 1: so crazy, and I feel like young Money. I'm gonna 1513 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,799 Speaker 1: say this, I don't feel Young Money gets enough credit 1514 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: for bringing back that aura, that Crew Crew. You feel 1515 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: like after like Dipset and G Unit, that was it. 1516 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 1: That was the That was the end of that era 1517 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 1: of like d Block, G United, Dip said, uh Rough Riders, Rockefeller, 1518 01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm like all of those like Crew 1519 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,600 Speaker 1: and then like Young Money came and I remember we 1520 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 1: used to get joked on. It was the joke. You know. 1521 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: We had the poppy singles and shit like that, but 1522 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 1: we still had like Dedication three, Dedication four, like no ceilings. 1523 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 1: Like the reason why we was like like I Am Music. 1524 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: Tour was like six months. It was like the biggest tour. 1525 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: But at that time, that's when Top was creating uh TD. 1526 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Like I met Jay Rock through Wayne. Yeah, they had 1527 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: a song that was first single on Warner Broads and 1528 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Wayne directed the video. I remember when we flew out here. 1529 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,840 Speaker 1: I remember that was when Kendrick was being at that 1530 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: video shoot like yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay 1531 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,759 Speaker 1: in the trailer right, Like you gotta understand I'm from Harlem, 1532 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Wayne out here with Dicky's and Red Band, Dannis and shit, 1533 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm new. I don't even know Wayne for 1534 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: being like this yet, you know what I'm saying, I'm like, 1535 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: fuck is nickoson? But I'm learning, you know what I'm saying. 1536 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, he like, yeah, I'm directing his 1537 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: video for my uh, for my man's artists. I'm like, who, so, 1538 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 1: my man j Rock. I didn't know who TD was. 1539 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know none of that. But I remember, like 1540 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,799 Speaker 1: after Young Money, they was the first people I remember 1541 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 1: being like, oh, they building some ship like what we're doing. 1542 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Not the same thing, of course not. But I remember 1543 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,680 Speaker 1: because Schoolboy Q was a part of GED. That was 1544 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: Tiger's crew. I don't want to say Tigers. They was 1545 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 1: all crew, you know what I'm saying. I remember shouted 1546 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: shout out the Q. I remember I remember Q from 1547 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: being around Tiger, Like, so, I already knew he was nice, 1548 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I already knew Jay Rock 1549 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: from Wayne doing the video. I had heard the apps 1550 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:47,720 Speaker 1: soul uh. A lot of us knew, like found out 1551 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: about Kendrick. What was this section of section eighty? Section eighty, 1552 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 1: But he was on one of he was on Drake Shit, 1553 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: he was on like an interlude or something? Am I bugging? 1554 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 1: Was Kendrick on like a Drake Carter four? Nah, Kendrick 1555 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 1: was on like because I remember we asked him. He 1556 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 1: was like, yo, who that I don't remember? He broke 1557 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: down the verse about how Kendrick was talking about how 1558 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 1: they met and he went here and he was like, 1559 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 1: that's exactly how it happened. Was it a Drake album? 1560 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 1: I think that was yo? For real? If I'm bugging 1561 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: right now, how to apologize had to be Carter four. 1562 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 1: Carter four had all those interviews with like bun be 1563 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Was it a Drake album? Oh the way, You're right, 1564 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,560 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. He was on a yeah, on 1565 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: on a Drake album? Kendrick it was on take Care 1566 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: all right, So now I'm peeping. I'm like, but at 1567 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: this time, Ross is doing ye married to Live there 1568 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: you go? Because I remember asking Drake like you know, 1569 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: and he broke in and he was like, YEO, he's 1570 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: not and he was rapping the verse like he said, 1571 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 1: and that's exactly how it happened, like how we you know, Yeah, 1572 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Kendrick was already like on his way there. So pd 1573 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,719 Speaker 1: E mayeback music. They took that whole ship and ran 1574 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 1: with it. That kind of like birthed the whole. And 1575 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 1: then after that, like Cole look with Dreamville. You know 1576 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,559 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he built that ship. It wasn't quick. 1577 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 1: But if you if you look at and you look 1578 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: at if you look at the Freshman cover, and I 1579 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 1: got a lot I got in all sorts of trouble 1580 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 1: for saying my fucking man was supposed to be under 1581 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 1: cover I worded. Remember when I said the double XL 1582 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: cover was whack because Vado wasn't on it. Oh. I 1583 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: caught so much flak for that because everybody thought I 1584 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: meant every person on the cover was whack because that 1585 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 1: was the J Cole Fra Gizz and that was and 1586 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,719 Speaker 1: that was one of the best fucking covers. It turned 1587 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: out to be one of the best covers. I was 1588 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 1: just mad my home he wasn't on there. I felt 1589 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: he deserved to be on there. Cool worded it wrong. 1590 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 1: But if you look at from that time on, Cole 1591 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: built Dreamville kind of fast. He had because out of 1592 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,720 Speaker 1: everybody on that cover, him and he had a he 1593 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 1: had Omens signed to Dreamville. Fro There's a guy named 1594 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: Omen that he had signed to the LA like Dreamgo 1595 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 1: was a thing for a while. No, but I mean, 1596 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 1: like from what the public first sword because young money 1597 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,800 Speaker 1: was a thing for a while. Young money been in things. 1598 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,080 Speaker 1: Does Jr. Smith have a young Money tattoo on his throat? 1599 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 1: Young Money? Is he? I was just was homie, Okay, 1600 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know, Yo, Why does this NBA player have 1601 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,880 Speaker 1: a gigantic young money tattoo on his fucking throat? Then? Guys, 1602 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 1: I when he was at the Bedrock video shooting I noticed. 1603 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, she got a stupid, big young 1604 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: money tattoo on his neck. Jesus Christ, the homies. He's 1605 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 1: gotta regret that tattoo, you know what? Like, I don't 1606 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 1: really think jayall Smith regrets too much. That might be fair. 1607 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody who could drink honey on game night, 1608 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they regret too much. Man shout out 1609 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,080 Speaker 1: to Jay all Man. So look, your album is out, 1610 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 1: and is this like the beginning of you putting out 1611 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: a ship ton of like what's your like? Early earlier 1612 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 1: this year I put out poll Music five. Last year 1613 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: I put out Feels Like I was here before Keywords. 1614 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: My thing right now is just figure out where you 1615 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,640 Speaker 1: fit in? Right now, there's so much shit going on. 1616 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: Like I love the drill shit, of course, I love 1617 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,720 Speaker 1: the lyrical shit. I love the melodic shit. I love 1618 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 1: the auto tuned shit. I really wish I could fit 1619 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,560 Speaker 1: in all of those lanes. But I've tried it, and 1620 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't just rap. You know what I'm saying, Like 1621 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: I learned, I learned. I say this shit a whole lot. 1622 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 1: You can probably find a million interviews. Whou I say this. 1623 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,160 Speaker 1: Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. 1624 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 1: There you go, man, Come on, man, just because you 1625 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: can do something does not mean you should. You know 1626 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I could go out and I 1627 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 1: could fuck ten strippers in the strip club, that doesn't 1628 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,640 Speaker 1: mean you should. There you go. Whether you got a 1629 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 1: girl at home or not, Well, if you don't have 1630 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 1: a girl at home, no, it's still it's COVID, it's cold. 1631 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: It shouldn't fuck. You shouldn't have sex with ten different 1632 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: people at all. Right now, I mean pandemic times I 1633 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 1: concur but you know, just there you go. I was 1634 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,040 Speaker 1: just giving you an analogy. You know what I'm saying. 1635 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 1: It's like I can DJ you know, I can get 1636 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 1: on the wheels of still and should I I mean 1637 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 1: I should probably, I should probably not you can probably 1638 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,760 Speaker 1: you can probably tell him to load a beat up 1639 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 1: right now, talking ship, I'm not rapping, see now you could? 1640 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 1: Should you? Should you? Of course? Not like should you 1641 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: really do that? I don't know if you. So That's 1642 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,360 Speaker 1: where I'm at with it, man, I'm just trying to 1643 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 1: see where I fit in. I'm having fun with this ship. 1644 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm independent with empire. I love my splits, y'all in trouble. 1645 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 1: When I hit it, hit the liquid one, and I 1646 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 1: think that that's what that's the beauty of this Eraror. 1647 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: And that's probably what made me leave Young Money too, 1648 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 1: just realizing I ain't need a machine in this Eraror 1649 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: no more. You know what I'm saying the middle man, 1650 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 1: it's not the it's like it's not to say it 1651 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,679 Speaker 1: like that. But I come from an era of the machine. 1652 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,680 Speaker 1: I was part of Warner Brothers Machine. I was part 1653 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: of Universal Machine and Steve Rifkin over at SRC and 1654 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 1: a part of Young Moneys. But you were signing a SRC. 1655 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,679 Speaker 1: I was signed the Universal and then when they started 1656 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of shifting and ship like that like 1657 01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,759 Speaker 1: me and my team, we didn't really like the David 1658 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: Banner Acon era src. Yeah, David Banner was up there. 1659 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: I've been being on the road with David Banner. I've 1660 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 1: been on the road with Remy there with Akon, Steve Rifkin, 1661 01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: Ah man, shout out to Steve Rifkins manage and Buster rhymes, 1662 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,720 Speaker 1: now what Yeah, it's Buster's manager. Know that's dope man, 1663 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 1: and shout out the Buster too. I've seen an interview 1664 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: with Buster was talking about the surgery. Uh, surgery you had. 1665 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: That shit fucked me up because that's the same surgery 1666 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 1: I had. And I never really heard nobody like talk 1667 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: about that ship ship like. It scared me from the 1668 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 1: perspective of Uh, you know, when some shit happened to you, 1669 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: you don't feel it. No, that's a bad analogy. You 1670 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 1: have a you have a you smoke weed. Yeah, you 1671 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,679 Speaker 1: have a smoke a bunch of weed and then walk 1672 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: in the mall and wonder why everybody looking at you. 1673 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: You think maybe you're sneak. You know, you got the 1674 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: new sneak, you got some new Yeezy's on it. You 1675 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 1: don't similar and you don't realize you smell like the 1676 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,640 Speaker 1: back of the dispensary, like it all just came in 1677 01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,760 Speaker 1: and you opened it and rubbed it all over your skin. 1678 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,760 Speaker 1: But you're high, so you don't you cool? You don't 1679 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,559 Speaker 1: smell that shit that's me, or I don't I smell amazing. 1680 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: I still smell like the colonne I sprayed this morning. 1681 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 1: You smoked eight blunts since then, meals you don't smell 1682 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 1: like that. But I'm in it, so I don't see it. 1683 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I seen Wayne have a 1684 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: seizure on the jet in the air. Now I have siezures. 1685 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 1: I have sieges in my sleep. Oh wow, like scariest 1686 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 1: shit ever. So but every time I ever had a 1687 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 1: siege in my sleep, I wake up and I'm cool, Like, 1688 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 1: so you were there when we had a seizure, like 1689 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 1: two different times, scariest shit I ever seen in my 1690 01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 1: life because it made me feel you know, it made 1691 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, that's what I look like like. 1692 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 1: And then when he got up, he was cool. He 1693 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,760 Speaker 1: was like, yo was his like lean usage that bad? 1694 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was. I don't know if 1695 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: it was the lean because I don't sibling and I 1696 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 1: have seen everyone's kind of uh come to that conclusion. 1697 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I can't really say it 1698 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 1: because once again, I don't sibling, and I have a 1699 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 1: history of you never sibling. I tried it one time, 1700 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 1: but I tried it by my quad. I tried it 1701 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 1: by mistake me and gutta gut it was and hit 1702 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,600 Speaker 1: factory one time and I had a sun kiss and 1703 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, you got the white cups with the ice 1704 01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 1: poured it in there, but I didn't realize that, uh 1705 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,760 Speaker 1: he had some lean and some sun kiss too, you 1706 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying somewhere. So when I hit the cup, 1707 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this ship tastes sweet, you know, tastes good. Actually, 1708 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like I'm thinking, maybe 1709 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a good ass sun kiss, right, 1710 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 1: And I caught one hit it again. I remember like, oh, 1711 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 1: I was just like slump beat playing like I'm trying 1712 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 1: to get up. I feel good though, but I'm just 1713 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,639 Speaker 1: wow comfortable, like and he like, mil bitch, drunk my cup, bitch. 1714 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, that was my cup, Like males, your 1715 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,599 Speaker 1: cup over there, bitch, this is my cup right here. 1716 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit. And that's when I realized the 1717 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,200 Speaker 1: whole time I was drinking gutta gutter cup. Did everyone like, 1718 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 1: was it like a panic when like he had a seizure, 1719 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 1: because that's an alarming thing to witness, especially Wayne. Yeah, yeah, 1720 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 1: that shit is a panic. But it was a panic 1721 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,960 Speaker 1: for me because everybody looking at me like males you do, like, yo, 1722 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I've never I usually be in the molde he's in 1723 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,800 Speaker 1: right now. And I remember when he woke up, like yo, 1724 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm good, everybody, you know, and they had the EMS 1725 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,760 Speaker 1: on the thing. Get the fuck off my jet because 1726 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 1: we had to land the jet. We was going to La. 1727 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: We had to land the jet for the emest to 1728 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:53,639 Speaker 1: get on, and now we got to put the jet 1729 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,320 Speaker 1: back up in the air. So rich nigga shit, I'm not. 1730 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: I don't live on rich nigga shit, even with money. 1731 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 1: I want to live on broke nigga shit. You live 1732 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,599 Speaker 1: like you broke, you'll stay rich man. Put this bitch 1733 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 1: back up in the motherfucking air, y'all know, not much 1734 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,680 Speaker 1: this fucking gas course. I was like, that guy has 1735 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,639 Speaker 1: a point. Right now. We did land his jet. Now 1736 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,160 Speaker 1: we have to put it back up in the air 1737 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 1: and land it again. It's a whole nother fee that 1738 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 1: none of us are paying. He had a seizure though. 1739 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 1: Now now granted, I'm like I get it. I get 1740 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,160 Speaker 1: where he's coming from. Oh, y'all, get the fuck up 1741 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,680 Speaker 1: my jet. Come on this. I gotta get to LA 1742 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,759 Speaker 1: because he gotta get to LA to do an event, 1743 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 1: like a video game event or something like that. Now 1744 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: you know you don't do that. Now you have to 1745 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 1: pay for the gas to put the jet back up again. 1746 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 1: And you got to give them back that deposit they 1747 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 1: gave you because you ain't show up to that event. 1748 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:49,280 Speaker 1: You lost twice. Today jet go back up in the air. 1749 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: He like, Milsy, He like that shit was that bad? 1750 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 1: It was? It was serious like that. And I promise 1751 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,320 Speaker 1: you I did not want to you know, you don't 1752 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 1: want to really say that, but I'm like, she was bad. Bro. 1753 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 1: That was the first time I probably told him soning. 1754 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 1: He ain't want to hear. It's like, bro, that shit 1755 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 1: was the scaries shit I've ever seen in my life. Like, like, 1756 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to see you like that ever again. 1757 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,960 Speaker 1: My nigga. He's like word, He's like, believe that blood 1758 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 1: love you know what I'm saying. And then after that 1759 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: when we land, he went to he went to the 1760 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: hospital and that's when he stayed overnight. And you know, 1761 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 1: but that shit was scary, man, because it's like and 1762 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 1: that's why I said, I don't want to I don't 1763 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 1: want to put it to the Lean. I don't. You 1764 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because when I have seizures, it's 1765 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,280 Speaker 1: from overworking myself. It's high blood pressure and low sugar count. 1766 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 1: It's it's an imbalance, you know what I'm saying. So 1767 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,960 Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't Perks and Zannies and Lean because 1768 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 1: I got a history of this shit and I don't 1769 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 1: do none of that shit, right, you know what I'm saying. 1770 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Like the closest to a pill, I'm gonna get his 1771 01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 1: partying with an E Pill or Molly back in the day. 1772 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 1: Just it does seemed like that that is so different 1773 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,320 Speaker 1: people bodies, you know, they it shit hit different. But 1774 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 1: that that's some scary shit. Damn. Was that like something 1775 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,360 Speaker 1: where like you think that like it maybe changed the 1776 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 1: way he thought about some of the recreational use of 1777 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 1: stuff he had going on. Probably probably when you almost die, 1778 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 1: your life flash before you you think about all sorts 1779 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,679 Speaker 1: of shit that's whether you get shot, you get stabbed, 1780 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,840 Speaker 1: you get jumped, natural causes. I remember when the doctor 1781 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,759 Speaker 1: told me I got you know, I got six months 1782 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,760 Speaker 1: if I don't get this surgery. And then he said, 1783 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you be with your lady in six 1784 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 1: months and walked out like damn, like I'm gonna let 1785 01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,120 Speaker 1: you figure out if you want to get this surgery 1786 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 1: or if you want to wait it out a little bit. 1787 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,720 Speaker 1: And at that time, it's April, my daughter three years old. 1788 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: You're telling me I'm not making it to And then 1789 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,200 Speaker 1: when you go through all that, it's like, nah, I 1790 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 1: gotta put everything back in perspective. And I promised myself 1791 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen, I wouldn't deprive my fans. I wouldn't 1792 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:53,200 Speaker 1: cheat myself. I wouldn't waste my time overthinking shit or 1793 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 1: holding the music hostage. You know what I'm saying a 1794 01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of times, as artists, we hold music hostage because 1795 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 1: we playing so much. You're thinking, like, yo, I need 1796 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,439 Speaker 1: I need somebody to push this man, push that shit yourself. 1797 01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,800 Speaker 1: You got Instagram, you got Twitter, you got stories, you 1798 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:13,240 Speaker 1: got timelines. Be annoying, be annoying, Be like the bitches 1799 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,920 Speaker 1: that be like, hey, follow my hot bestie and never 1800 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,240 Speaker 1: met them bitches before, be like that. I know it 1801 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, fellas, but the moment you swallow that pride 1802 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,519 Speaker 1: and you stop thinking like it's eight or twenty thirteen, 1803 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,320 Speaker 1: this shit is different. Man. People out here making all 1804 01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 1: sorts of money that don't have no hot music. Now. 1805 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Not saying you need to put out bullshit music, but 1806 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,720 Speaker 1: this is the era of don't work harder, work smarter, man. 1807 01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Facts like I'm the king of working hard. I'm the 1808 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:52,919 Speaker 1: king of working super super hard. But somewhere not connecting 1809 01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,680 Speaker 1: the dots because you so busy working hard, you so 1810 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 1: busy busting your ass working hard, you ain't connecting the 1811 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 1: dots with the work, you know what I'm saying. And 1812 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: that's where That's where I'm at with it. I don't 1813 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,840 Speaker 1: know where a lot of other artists at with it, 1814 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: but I feel like everything is different now. Man. We 1815 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,640 Speaker 1: were talking about Tiger over there, and I was telling you, 1816 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I remember when Tiger came out with the album Singing 1817 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,000 Speaker 1: a few years ago. Now, everybody was laughing at him. 1818 01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Everybody was laughing at him. Ship said, dude, dude, and 1819 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,120 Speaker 1: he never looked back. Tiger had a rough patch. Man, 1820 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,920 Speaker 1: we all do. I mean, like the thing is he 1821 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,679 Speaker 1: gets just kept throwing up shots, and then the taste 1822 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 1: was I'm gonna say, some real ship. Man. I've been 1823 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,680 Speaker 1: in this game a long time. I know people may 1824 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,800 Speaker 1: not realize it, they may not look at it like that, 1825 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,240 Speaker 1: because I came into this ship young, and I done 1826 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,920 Speaker 1: did battle solo ship young, money, shit and dependent ship 1827 01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 1: ups and downs all that. I've been in this ship 1828 01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:52,320 Speaker 1: two decades. When you in this game as long as 1829 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,559 Speaker 1: somebody like me or you got longevity in this ship 1830 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,600 Speaker 1: and you learn how to stay afloat, you're gonna have 1831 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 1: some patches. Wheen shit get dropp. Of course, every one 1832 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,560 Speaker 1: of my favorite artists had a dry patch. Nas is 1833 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:09,240 Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists. Not Stradamus album exists there, 1834 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,400 Speaker 1: Project Windows was so. Jay Z is one of my 1835 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 1: favorite artists. The Kingdom Come album exists. I would I 1836 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,120 Speaker 1: would argue Kingdom Comes in second words, it exists, you 1837 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,599 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, however, you want to look 1838 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,280 Speaker 1: at it the same way, same way you said Carter 1839 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,280 Speaker 1: Fall it was cool, it wasn't cool. That might be your, 1840 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,680 Speaker 1: That might be your. It exists. There's a listen if 1841 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to die, I tried it. It's a 1842 01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,439 Speaker 1: lot of I'm not diving down. Lil Wayne's had a 1843 01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:42,040 Speaker 1: rough decade. Yeah, it's a but you gotta think quality wise. 1844 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 1: Quarter three and then no Ceilings, and then after no Ceilings, 1845 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:46,640 Speaker 1: shit just went left. For me as a fan, I 1846 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 1: was like, all right, listen, yeah, but you gotta take 1847 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: the good with the bad, because if you're gonna take 1848 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,320 Speaker 1: those four or five, then you gotta take the fifteen 1849 01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,720 Speaker 1: before that that was a monumental. And now we gotta wait. 1850 01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 1: We got to wait to Drought and Dedication one and 1851 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 1: dedicate I mean we got a way to card A 1852 01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,360 Speaker 1: one to two to three. I just think back to 1853 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:09,320 Speaker 1: like I Am not a human degrees? What was the 1854 01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 1: rock star album we was doing? Rock music had dropped? 1855 01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,320 Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember had dropped the world with 1856 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:21,479 Speaker 1: eminem which was a solid, solid song that hit number one. 1857 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 1: The album probably did Little Wayne could literally ship. That's 1858 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. Did we listen to the Snoop Lion album? 1859 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,200 Speaker 1: Did we listen to the Snoop Lion album? Of course? Not? Alright, 1860 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,640 Speaker 1: listen to number one Everything's not for every No way 1861 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,679 Speaker 1: the Snoop Dogg album was number one on the Gospel 1862 01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,880 Speaker 1: album hit, number one on the bill on the reggae chart. 1863 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,000 Speaker 1: Check it. Okay, wait wait wait what chart are we 1864 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: talking about here, because we're not talking about the overall Billboard. 1865 01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 1: All I'm telling you is, I'll give you ten thousand 1866 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,519 Speaker 1: dollars right now if if Snoop Dog's had a number 1867 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 1: one overall album in the last seven years on Billboard, 1868 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,479 Speaker 1: you don't think now, you don't think gospel chart, yes, 1869 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: because there's like two gospels. We move in the goal post. Now, 1870 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,720 Speaker 1: come on, no, you just moved a gold post. I'm 1871 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,720 Speaker 1: telling you. Everything's not for everybody. He might have been 1872 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 1: number one on the reggae chart. That's number one, No, 1873 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,000 Speaker 1: but not number one like number one it's number one. 1874 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,000 Speaker 1: That's like saying I got a number one death metal 1875 01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,080 Speaker 1: song out right now, Like it's like yeah, but like 1876 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 1: it's number one. It's number one to somebody in the genre. No, 1877 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,439 Speaker 1: you know what you just said. It's number one to somebody, 1878 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 1: may not be number one to you. They shout out 1879 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 1: to Wayne Man, shout out to Snoop too, shout shout 1880 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 1: the Snoop. But we're not slandering them. What We're basically 1881 01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 1: saying is when you have longevity like a Wayne or Snoop, 1882 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:44,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some drop patches. Were you disappointed number 1883 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Carter five? It was cool? It wasn't It wasn't the 1884 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,519 Speaker 1: other Carters. It wasn't like Carter two. It wasn't like 1885 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,639 Speaker 1: Carter three, it wasn't like Carter four. I actually think 1886 01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 1: it was better than Carter four. But that's not saying 1887 01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 1: much because I thought Cardi four was and now you see, 1888 01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,479 Speaker 1: but but that's you. I think Carter four better than 1889 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,280 Speaker 1: Carter five. So because you were around like the Carter 1890 01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,559 Speaker 1: five ship. I know a lot of those songs were 1891 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,000 Speaker 1: older obviously, but like how many I don't think I 1892 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 1: was around for Carter five. I don't know. You weren't 1893 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:13,879 Speaker 1: around when it came out, but I mean like they 1894 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 1: had to be, like it changed so much, That's what 1895 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,679 Speaker 1: I mean, because there was a change. It was supposed 1896 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 1: to come out for so long, and then he was 1897 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,759 Speaker 1: getting held against his will by baby Oh the free Wheezy. 1898 01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: I remember that he put that on the title. Yeah, man, 1899 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,360 Speaker 1: well shout out to it, shot through my man tune 1900 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,800 Speaker 1: and he worked through it. He worked through it, man, 1901 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,240 Speaker 1: like That's That's one thing I will say about Wayne. 1902 01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,960 Speaker 1: He ain't never lay down, you know what I'm saying. 1903 01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of rappers that was out when he 1904 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 1: was out. They don't they laid down, you know what 1905 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They threw the towel and they was like, 1906 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,680 Speaker 1: fuck it. You know what I'm saying. He rapped through it. 1907 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,439 Speaker 1: Even if it was some ship that you didn't want 1908 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 1: to hear, he rapped through it, you know what I'm saying. 1909 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,680 Speaker 1: So everybody gonna have they dry spots. But I'll be 1910 01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:02,120 Speaker 1: feeling like I'm or for the comeback story. I'm more 1911 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 1: for like, damn, how did you bounce back off that ship? 1912 01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Come on, man, they counted Drake out. Everybody was, oh, ship, 1913 01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,559 Speaker 1: you had a son? You fucking don't. It's because Drake 1914 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,559 Speaker 1: lost the battle. I didn't. They counted. They counted Meek 1915 01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 1: out too. Is that a world that they counted him out? 1916 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:24,439 Speaker 1: Everyone counted out your dub You got wat juice all over. 1917 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,479 Speaker 1: This is true, and it changed. I remember seeing it 1918 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,479 Speaker 1: in my own eyes, like and everything changed. I remember 1919 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,800 Speaker 1: people really trying to say, like Drake was done. I 1920 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,160 Speaker 1: don't know about that. Drake got fried up. By it. 1921 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 1: I always that I was Drake. I was like I 1922 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,559 Speaker 1: was living out here. None of Drake's fans know who 1923 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,559 Speaker 1: pushed it to you, I was living out here. They 1924 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:49,160 Speaker 1: thought Aubrey was done in terms of that battle. He 1925 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:54,040 Speaker 1: was done. They thought Drake was done. They thought he 1926 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,040 Speaker 1: was done for And that was the only time he 1927 01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 1: had any sort of stench. Well not the only time. 1928 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 1: Shout to quintin that that that that was funny when 1929 01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:08,639 Speaker 1: he said, uh damn a nigga got points for saying 1930 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:14,640 Speaker 1: I had a son, My points for saying who my 1931 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:19,920 Speaker 1: girl was Drake definitively And you know what happened after that. 1932 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,960 Speaker 1: He took the L and then God's plan came. Of course, 1933 01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,120 Speaker 1: that's not an L in that specific battle. Now, look, 1934 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm not because I don't want to shoot on push 1935 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 1: your tea because I'm not. I'm not. I don't have 1936 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 1: anything to do with that anymore. But push a push 1937 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,759 Speaker 1: a put put through that out. If Drake never even replied, 1938 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,320 Speaker 1: I could take if I could take that, if I 1939 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: could take that one, if that's the last high point 1940 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,759 Speaker 1: that we have for pushing tea, Oh, come on, Daytona 1941 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,559 Speaker 1: came out after that. I said it's a classic album. 1942 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,719 Speaker 1: But you're not talking to me about a classic album 1943 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,559 Speaker 1: right now. You're talking to me about a verse over 1944 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,639 Speaker 1: a jay Z beat, which was a little light something 1945 01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 1: and so light. And then I'm telling you, and then 1946 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: God's Plan came out, and then we forgot about anything 1947 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,559 Speaker 1: that had to do with Push your Tea. Now I'm 1948 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,920 Speaker 1: saying as far as Drake go, because I can't, just 1949 01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 1: because because I gotta keep this a buck right now, 1950 01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 1: I can't shoot on Push your Tea, like push your 1951 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,200 Speaker 1: Tea career, don't take my career and like put his 1952 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,679 Speaker 1: foot on it and like move it around a little 1953 01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: bit like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm a realist, 1954 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,720 Speaker 1: but I'm also going to be a realist and tell 1955 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:26,720 Speaker 1: you after that high point for Push your Tea, I 1956 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 1: don't remember. Look, and somebody might be like Mills, I 1957 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,880 Speaker 1: don't remember how point from you ever shut I get 1958 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 1: it technically came out. We just haven't. We just haven't 1959 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 1: regular just regular conversation. Yeah, listen, long time, but look, 1960 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,639 Speaker 1: but look, look, because I love Drake man, I love Drake. 1961 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,679 Speaker 1: Anything with young money involved, I'm taking the young money side. 1962 01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck Drake did ordered a microphone 1963 01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:01,400 Speaker 1: with push your T's autograph on it back in the days. Yeah, 1964 01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,960 Speaker 1: because I remember when I seen that and I was like, 1965 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 1: you might, you might. That was like a bad one, 1966 01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,200 Speaker 1: but then you know, but then that turns out, that 1967 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 1: turns into like the super senior's still bothering the freshman. 1968 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,680 Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, go to college. I push it's that guy, Bro, 1969 01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 1: Now push it. Look listen, Push your te is undeniably literally, 1970 01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,479 Speaker 1: it's probably not impossible for Drake to like lose in 1971 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things because he's the biggest ever. Look, people, 1972 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,599 Speaker 1: you can no, you can't lose. You can lose because people. 1973 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,679 Speaker 1: You you have people that will say, now Drake lost 1974 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,360 Speaker 1: that battle. Then you have people that say you won 1975 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,920 Speaker 1: the battle. You got people saying he won the battle. 1976 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,680 Speaker 1: You literally have people that they're like twelve year old 1977 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 1: white kids who don't know what what what see? But 1978 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,960 Speaker 1: see what you know what you're saying right now? You 1979 01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,479 Speaker 1: move in the goal post. The goal post is who 1980 01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,960 Speaker 1: cares how old they are. There are people that will 1981 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,760 Speaker 1: say ether was whack because they are jay Z stands. 1982 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,680 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a no stand, I'm a nod stand. Too, 1983 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,360 Speaker 1: and you're knock. My favorite me to beat was Whack. 1984 01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:03,120 Speaker 1: But also, I mean you know what Ether was before that? Yeah? Okay, 1985 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:10,920 Speaker 1: so listen in retrospect. In retrospect, say it takeover? Was it? 1986 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 1: Say no no? But Takeover wasn't a special it was 1987 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,599 Speaker 1: There was a NOAs line in there. Right. If we're 1988 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:23,280 Speaker 1: talking about which song is better sonically to listen to, 1989 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 1: why does he move the gold? Because Ether is a 1990 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 1: better disc record but the but which song is better 1991 01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,000 Speaker 1: to listen to it? I didn't ask you which song 1992 01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,160 Speaker 1: was better? I said who lost jay Z? And I 1993 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,400 Speaker 1: said there are people like you who still say but 1994 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 1: the better than the It's almost like when you watched 1995 01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,600 Speaker 1: Belly as a kid and you were like, Yo, this 1996 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,240 Speaker 1: ship is fire. But then you watch it as a 1997 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,479 Speaker 1: grown ass man and you like the last twenty minutes 1998 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 1: and you're life watch But it's really a good movie. 1999 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 1: If you've been hustling and you went out of town 2000 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,160 Speaker 1: and you got money and you had to drive around 2001 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,240 Speaker 1: and intrepid and a nigga snitched on you, and then 2002 01:41:58,280 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: you was getting money and then you had to you 2003 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,320 Speaker 1: did that before, is a great movie. It's I don't 2004 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,320 Speaker 1: know if you did that before. I don't know. You 2005 01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:11,479 Speaker 1: keep saying that. There's people that say, y'all, y'all really 2006 01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,720 Speaker 1: like push your tea in the I don't like to 2007 01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,680 Speaker 1: push your tea too. I love the album, Like what 2008 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:20,519 Speaker 1: are you talking about? So? Who won the battle? The 2009 01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 1: overall battle? No? Or the four four four Freestyle and 2010 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,479 Speaker 1: the other ship? Like the other ship for them? I 2011 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,760 Speaker 1: like four Freestyle because it had I didn't. We didn't 2012 01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,400 Speaker 1: know he had a son. And you think Drake should 2013 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:36,519 Speaker 1: have should have replied. I think that would have been 2014 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 1: good for Rap. I think that would have been good 2015 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,439 Speaker 1: for Rap if you apply. I think it was a 2016 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 1: bad look that he didn't reply, and it was a 2017 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,040 Speaker 1: bad look that he wasn't that similar to did Meek reply, Well, no, 2018 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,200 Speaker 1: Meek didn't need a reply because Jesus Christ. His reply 2019 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,200 Speaker 1: to Fucking Back to Back was atrocious. It was he 2020 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,000 Speaker 1: ruined the Undertaker's theme song. It was really bad. It 2021 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,760 Speaker 1: was over. It was like, okay, dude, Drake just hits 2022 01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,800 Speaker 1: you with two of them brouh and then you coming 2023 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,560 Speaker 1: back with this bullshit. But but see on top of 2024 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,320 Speaker 1: that and listen with me. But I and and and 2025 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:07,960 Speaker 1: and I'm not the biggest Drake fan in the world, 2026 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,200 Speaker 1: but he undoubtedly beat the ship out of Meek milling 2027 01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 1: that it was. It wasn't even a fucking question. It 2028 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,439 Speaker 1: was really sad. I remember We're in Tampa and I 2029 01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,160 Speaker 1: was just sitting there, like, man, it might really be 2030 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 1: over for Meek Man because this was when he was 2031 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter tweet because that's when you know what he 2032 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,880 Speaker 1: was like what he had the Trump Twitter fingers and 2033 01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:29,760 Speaker 1: you know what it be sometimes too. You know it'd 2034 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:34,640 Speaker 1: be sometimes too. Sometimes you can dig a hole with 2035 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 1: uh the fans. I know this from battling like you 2036 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,240 Speaker 1: could talk so much ship that they want to see 2037 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,280 Speaker 1: you lose. Like I think that's what happened with Meek 2038 01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:48,479 Speaker 1: like Drake, not to say like back to back, but listen, 2039 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:52,120 Speaker 1: Meek jumped out though yeah he was talking crazy you 2040 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,479 Speaker 1: you you you made it with Drake looked like he 2041 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,280 Speaker 1: was countering. So you made people be like, you made 2042 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 1: people pick sides, you made them be like, now we 2043 01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,439 Speaker 1: like him more than you. Even if you're right, you 2044 01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, if you've given us you know 2045 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,720 Speaker 1: what to go back to the Kanye jay Z ship, 2046 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,600 Speaker 1: even if you're giving us evidence and you're right, we 2047 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:18,280 Speaker 1: don't care. That's what I've seen at that time, and 2048 01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:24,640 Speaker 1: I think we don't give a fuck. We still like 2049 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,760 Speaker 1: him more than you, and that's I think that's when 2050 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 1: it was just like, hold up, he don't write. He 2051 01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 1: didn't write that ship though, so we don't care. I 2052 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:36,120 Speaker 1: ain't need one dance and we're gonna say those songs too. Hey, 2053 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,720 Speaker 1: back to back was crazy. The fact that you had 2054 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:40,439 Speaker 1: to go to a night club for an X amount 2055 01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 1: of years and hear the disc song in every club 2056 01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 1: for two years straight. That ship was I'm a I'm 2057 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 1: a fan. I'm a fan of all of the disrecord ship. 2058 01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 1: That's why I like this type of conversation, whether it's Pushers, 2059 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:57,200 Speaker 1: Drake Drake or Knives or whole no, whoever you I 2060 01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:58,760 Speaker 1: don't care if you want to talk about Kim and 2061 01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,320 Speaker 1: fifty close beef though, Beanie Seagull and Jada, Yo, how 2062 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,800 Speaker 1: did you take that? Look a here? Why this nigga 2063 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,680 Speaker 1: took it here? Earnt my spot? Ain't nobody put me 2064 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,360 Speaker 1: here closest you hear the Beanie shit and the Jada shit, 2065 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,000 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, so now this conversation is going somewhere 2066 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:20,760 Speaker 1: else that was a time of like that was like 2067 01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,160 Speaker 1: a real time of like niggas study and like them disraps. 2068 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,439 Speaker 1: When I'm talking about the cruise, I was talking about 2069 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 1: d Block and dipseid g Unit, State Property. I remember 2070 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 1: that beef. That beef went for a long time. That 2071 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,599 Speaker 1: beef went from DJ Clue mixtapes to State Property. Would 2072 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 1: drive from Philly to New York and go up the 2073 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 1: funk Master Flex and rap for a hour. Fuck SPJ 2074 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 1: Hood died to looking out for Nazi a nigga. When 2075 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:48,160 Speaker 1: I find you, I'm like, whoa, Like they're from Philly. 2076 01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,280 Speaker 1: They're at the radio station on Hudson Street. Right now. 2077 01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,760 Speaker 1: This is live. This isn't like a pre recorded thing. 2078 01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,439 Speaker 1: And then like two days later kissing them or come 2079 01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 1: up there stay. I was to come out with some ship. 2080 01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,160 Speaker 1: Fuck Beanie Siegel. He could suck my dick with the 2081 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:06,680 Speaker 1: ship up on it. WHOA, whoa? What did he just say? 2082 01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:08,960 Speaker 1: They got to see each other at some point, you 2083 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's why when I think 2084 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,720 Speaker 1: about like the new beefs and it's like somebody might 2085 01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 1: put out a freestyle and in this one put out 2086 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 1: like nah, this ship went from Powerhouse to live performances 2087 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,240 Speaker 1: the niggas throwing French fries at niggas on that stage. 2088 01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:28,960 Speaker 1: Came out that see that's different than you freestyle over 2089 01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 1: somebody beat and you put it out and deer what 2090 01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 1: you're saying With that being said, that was gra replied 2091 01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:38,240 Speaker 1: he I wanted him to the white flag and said, 2092 01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:41,240 Speaker 1: shit got too real, guys. I wanted to reply, you know, 2093 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:42,800 Speaker 1: I think that would have got bad because I think 2094 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,800 Speaker 1: at some point Drake would have started saying, like which 2095 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,880 Speaker 1: people wives he fucked and stuff like that. I think 2096 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,080 Speaker 1: it would have gotten bad because pusha t had like 2097 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,760 Speaker 1: five or six records just waiting for this for like, 2098 01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,760 Speaker 1: you want to know what's crazy? I said that, and 2099 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:59,519 Speaker 1: everybody in the room face it because Drake everyone's wives, 2100 01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 1: because that could have got so bad. That could have 2101 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,560 Speaker 1: gotten so that could have gotten so bad, like that 2102 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,240 Speaker 1: could have got so bad of the like, oh, you 2103 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 1: think people write for me? I wrote for him? You 2104 01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:18,120 Speaker 1: talk about Kanye? Think who gives everyone knows con Ryan 2105 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:22,559 Speaker 1: ft and said, Ryan Fest wrote, Jesus, well, why are 2106 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,960 Speaker 1: you so quick to tell me when somebody wrote for Kanye? 2107 01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 1: But you wasn't quick to tell me what Kanye wrote 2108 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:32,400 Speaker 1: for jay Z. Kanye is my favorite artist ever. Listen, 2109 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:34,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is Kanye is my favorite artist, but 2110 01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,599 Speaker 1: MC is nos on. My favorite overall artist is Kanye. 2111 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 1: But you're not You're overlooking. You're overlooking the same thing 2112 01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,120 Speaker 1: that you would put on him that he's did for 2113 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:48,000 Speaker 1: other people. Because I never I don't, I don't think people, 2114 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,559 Speaker 1: how can we How can you just Drake for having 2115 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,120 Speaker 1: no no, not you, but just I'm just thinking, how 2116 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,120 Speaker 1: could you dis Drake for having a ghost writer If 2117 01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:03,360 Speaker 1: the person you're assigned to he writes for, that's weird. 2118 01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,960 Speaker 1: This is all weird. Like we're talking, we're talking. What 2119 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,760 Speaker 1: are we're talking? Gnis, you don't even know what you 2120 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 1: want to say. He's a gladiator. He's a Jedi when 2121 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,639 Speaker 1: it comes to this rap ship. He's a fucking Jedi. 2122 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:17,960 Speaker 1: You don't even know what you want to say. Right now, 2123 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,599 Speaker 1: I'm saying, we moved the goal post for certain People's 2124 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,880 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. He has everything to do 2125 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,600 Speaker 1: with this. Push your Teas hated Drake before he was 2126 01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:32,080 Speaker 1: bro I'm not even talking about pushing Tea. What are 2127 01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:35,360 Speaker 1: we I'm just talking about Drake and the ghost writing thing. 2128 01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,680 Speaker 1: Kanye has everything to do with it. Don't care that 2129 01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:44,120 Speaker 1: ghost ghost writers that people could say wrote for ya 2130 01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,280 Speaker 1: or wrote for this one. I could turn around and say, 2131 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,200 Speaker 1: but yay wrote for jay Z. If we're gonna do that, okay, 2132 01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,920 Speaker 1: So now we gotta say jay Z has ghost writers, 2133 01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,720 Speaker 1: and that's a whole different conversation. But we don't want 2134 01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,600 Speaker 1: to have that conversation. Don't want to. I want to 2135 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,240 Speaker 1: do business with rock Nation and Title, so I don't 2136 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:06,639 Speaker 1: want to have this conversation. But I have to keep 2137 01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:11,439 Speaker 1: it real and tell you that I have footage and 2138 01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 1: evidence that Kanye West came in the studio and gave 2139 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: him a song, a hook, and a bridge. I gotta 2140 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:21,680 Speaker 1: get these devils out my life. That's Kanye. I'm from 2141 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:26,400 Speaker 1: the murder capital where we murder for that's Kanye, loser 2142 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,360 Speaker 1: for louserf I did the beat that I gave you, 2143 01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,479 Speaker 1: that I wrote that for you. That's no different than 2144 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,320 Speaker 1: with Quentin Miller differs. I don't disagree, But so jay 2145 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,360 Speaker 1: Z don't got ghost writers. Blame me. The Kanye reference 2146 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,000 Speaker 1: it's in Fade the Black movie. You want me to 2147 01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,680 Speaker 1: find a time stip for you? I know it's in there. 2148 01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,240 Speaker 1: I remember I have the movie on DVD. I could go. 2149 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:46,960 Speaker 1: You just don't want we don't want to accept that. 2150 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,120 Speaker 1: I fuck that shit, right, Like, this is what I 2151 01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,160 Speaker 1: would say. I think Drake is one of the greatest 2152 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 1: artists that shit. Fuck that ship. I don't put Kanye 2153 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,000 Speaker 1: nor Drake in the top MC's like like top ten, 2154 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,920 Speaker 1: you can put them top artists exactly now we're talking 2155 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:04,760 Speaker 1: about like MC ship like, I can't put them in 2156 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:09,680 Speaker 1: that because because it is very very come on man, 2157 01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:14,040 Speaker 1: that fucking on crowd in two thousand and one. But 2158 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:17,439 Speaker 1: Kanye wrote for him on him Black album, a couple 2159 01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,599 Speaker 1: of lines on a beat that he had brought to him. 2160 01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:21,680 Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no. 2161 01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,479 Speaker 1: He gave him a bridge, a hook and lines, and 2162 01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 1: jay Z went in in and said it word for word. Now, 2163 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to say I will get I don't 2164 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 1: want to say. I don't want to say Kanye wrote 2165 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,559 Speaker 1: for jay Z. But if we're gonna move the gold 2166 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:42,040 Speaker 1: post for certain people, you gotta keep it a buck. 2167 01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,400 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta keep it a buck. Jay Z 2168 01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:47,760 Speaker 1: wrote for Bugs Bunny on the Space, jay Z wrote 2169 01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 1: for Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg. I'm aware, but we 2170 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,800 Speaker 1: won't say. But we won't say Snoop had ghost writers 2171 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,000 Speaker 1: until Snoop came out a couple of weeks ago and said, 2172 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,000 Speaker 1: hell yeah, he wrote that ship for me. Yeah, but again, 2173 01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,280 Speaker 1: why we don't how we don't look at it like that? 2174 01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,080 Speaker 1: And I love all these people. I'm not shitting on them. 2175 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,519 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to play Devil's advocate. Like if jay 2176 01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,840 Speaker 1: Z could tell me, I mean, if Snoop could tell 2177 01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,760 Speaker 1: me that jay Z wrote Still dr E and like, 2178 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 1: hell ya, that shit was banging. So I said, I 2179 01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,320 Speaker 1: won't say that. Let me I say that shit. And 2180 01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 1: then I could tell you Kanye gave jay Z some 2181 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:21,120 Speaker 1: shit he's not, I said, Snoop, while you overlook that, 2182 01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,639 Speaker 1: you good man, You've been in this journalism shit too, Snoop. 2183 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:28,599 Speaker 1: If we're talking about Snoop, Snoop also somebody who openly 2184 01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:32,040 Speaker 1: admits to freestyling at this point, and they got to 2185 01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,080 Speaker 1: do with other people writing for you and has also 2186 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,519 Speaker 1: openly admitted what does that have to do with jay Z? Right? 2187 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,679 Speaker 1: And are we putting Snoop Dogg in the top ten discussion? 2188 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,560 Speaker 1: He's top twenty, But I wouldn't put him in the 2189 01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,519 Speaker 1: top ten, top ten? What MC's who was doing top anything? 2190 01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:47,880 Speaker 1: Right now? Talking to MC, I'm just talking about you know, 2191 01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:51,240 Speaker 1: you're talking MC's, we're talking about ghostwriters. You you just 2192 01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,880 Speaker 1: made a whole different conversation for us to talk about. 2193 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 1: Now we're talking Top twenty. So Snoop not top ten, 2194 01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:01,800 Speaker 1: no top ten? What MC's So what is Snoop? If 2195 01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,519 Speaker 1: he if he could freestyle off the top of his head, 2196 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,200 Speaker 1: top twenty, I think I think I think it's doggy. 2197 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:12,160 Speaker 1: I think Snoop's discography doggy style. Dog Father here is 2198 01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,680 Speaker 1: the biggest rapper ever that you're probably right about. I 2199 01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,800 Speaker 1: didn't say he's the best or the greatest. I said 2200 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:20,240 Speaker 1: he's the biggest rapper ever. He has the biggest debut. 2201 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:26,040 Speaker 1: He got one of the longest illustrious career. He done 2202 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,519 Speaker 1: had his dry patch. He had his dry patch when 2203 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 1: nobody was fucking with him and he had to go 2204 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,160 Speaker 1: to New Orleans and he bounced back. You know what 2205 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He did have a dry patch, just like 2206 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,160 Speaker 1: Doctor Dre had a dry patch. But I've been there 2207 01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,160 Speaker 1: and I've done this. Dog Father. What he did was 2208 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 1: he put out one album I didn't say they don't. 2209 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,320 Speaker 1: I said he had a draft patch. But his first 2210 01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:47,080 Speaker 1: album was No Limit. I said, that fucking air ball. 2211 01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:51,280 Speaker 1: I said, but that's the dry patch. But that was 2212 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,920 Speaker 1: that was with New Orleans. That was with no limit. No, 2213 01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,600 Speaker 1: he got with no limit because he was in the 2214 01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,960 Speaker 1: studio doing a verse for Mystical for thirty five hundred 2215 01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:03,240 Speaker 1: dollars that had no fucking That is a did you 2216 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,000 Speaker 1: hear what I just said, Snoop Dogg got with no Limit. 2217 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,479 Speaker 1: You said he was in the studio doing a feature 2218 01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:13,320 Speaker 1: with Mystical for thirty five hundred dollars. He said, he 2219 01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,680 Speaker 1: was fucked up, and Masterpiece said, you know what, I'm 2220 01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,479 Speaker 1: gonna give you thirty five thousand, and I'm gonna go 2221 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,720 Speaker 1: meet with sug Knight. He was. That was a dry 2222 01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,920 Speaker 1: spot before No Limit. Okay, are we talking about financial 2223 01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 1: dry spots or or quality of music dry spots? He 2224 01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,400 Speaker 1: didn't have nothing going, That's why he was doing it. 2225 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,479 Speaker 1: I mean dry spot. He had doggy style, he had 2226 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,760 Speaker 1: dog father. No, I'm telling there was no No. I'm 2227 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,640 Speaker 1: telling you what Snoop Dogg said. I'm not telling you 2228 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,320 Speaker 1: what I think. I'm telling you that. He said he 2229 01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,280 Speaker 1: was in the financial dry spot because Sugar Knight was 2230 01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,599 Speaker 1: probably no, I don't have nothing. I don't have no deal. 2231 01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. I need you to come get me 2232 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,040 Speaker 1: out of my deal. This is my dry spot. I 2233 01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,640 Speaker 1: am in a deal with a gang member. It's a 2234 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,760 Speaker 1: lot bigger than me, and I can't do shit. That's 2235 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,360 Speaker 1: why I'm here doing this verse for thirty five hundred. 2236 01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:57,280 Speaker 1: And I have an album called Doggie Style, and I'm 2237 01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,640 Speaker 1: here doing a verse for thirty five hundred for Mystical. 2238 01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,679 Speaker 1: That's a draft spot. That's that was before No Limit. 2239 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,800 Speaker 1: That's a draft spot. But he bounced back. He bounced 2240 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:09,439 Speaker 1: back from that. So that's just I'm talking about this 2241 01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,519 Speaker 1: quality of music wise dry spots. Yeah, you had a 2242 01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,200 Speaker 1: dray spot there too. Oh, definitely. Every everybody has draft spots. Man. 2243 01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,639 Speaker 1: That that's that's I can't sit up here and say 2244 01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,519 Speaker 1: I can't name one artist that had a full career 2245 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:26,720 Speaker 1: of You could have said Kanye until fucking this old 2246 01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,280 Speaker 1: Jesus King came out. That just fuck it was a 2247 01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:33,160 Speaker 1: fuck it that was atrocious. You think Jesus King was 2248 01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:36,560 Speaker 1: the first one? Uh, I mean personally, Jesus was was 2249 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,040 Speaker 1: the one Jesus has changed sonics and music. I didn't 2250 01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 1: ask you that. I said the one yes I listened 2251 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 1: to and Heartbreaks changed the sonics and music. I think 2252 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,080 Speaker 1: you're a couple of albums late with the Jesus. First 2253 01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,600 Speaker 1: of all, sir, relaxed. I'm just telling you wanna find 2254 01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:50,800 Speaker 1: a bigger Kanye fan in the world than me. Second 2255 01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,680 Speaker 1: of all, that's what will me. Kanye literally has changed 2256 01:54:53,720 --> 01:55:00,240 Speaker 1: it over and over as and Heartbreaks made Drake possible. Okay, so, 2257 01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:04,120 Speaker 1: but but Jesus did the same thing for Travis, for 2258 01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,080 Speaker 1: all these people. Like the sonics that Kanye brought into 2259 01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:11,280 Speaker 1: hip hop on Jesus was crazy, bro, Jesus is that ship? Yes? 2260 01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,400 Speaker 1: You don't think Travis Scott was already making that sound. 2261 01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,240 Speaker 1: Travis Scott was working with Kanye on Yees. Travis Scott 2262 01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 1: was on Grand Hustle. No ship, but no, but Travis 2263 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,680 Speaker 1: Scott was worked on Jesus with Kanye. He also was 2264 01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,760 Speaker 1: on Grand Hustle before he met Kanye. I underware he 2265 01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:29,360 Speaker 1: was doing songs with Young Thug and all that when 2266 01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:33,040 Speaker 1: he had Little Twists. That was on days before Rodeo. 2267 01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,440 Speaker 1: I know, but but that was we're talking about before 2268 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,520 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I'm telling you that that sound 2269 01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,160 Speaker 1: was around before Kanye. He didn't bring it anywhere. Somebody 2270 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 1: bought it. You know what he did speak He sampled 2271 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,280 Speaker 1: Travis Scott. You know, Waits and Heartbreaks wasn't a sound 2272 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,800 Speaker 1: that he brought to us. Neither Kid Cut He brought 2273 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 1: it to him. Bro and Wayne was already doing love 2274 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,800 Speaker 1: Lockdown came. What Kanye does is he sampled. He samples 2275 01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,200 Speaker 1: people's creative. He sampled Kid Cuddy as a huge human 2276 01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,040 Speaker 1: being for Awaits and Heartbreaks. Jay Z sampled all of 2277 01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 1: the Philly niggas Flow too, definitely. Oh yeah, young, I 2278 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,760 Speaker 1: was just talking about you swiped it. You want to say, 2279 01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:11,400 Speaker 1: sample or swipe? Which one we're gonna use? But the 2280 01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,440 Speaker 1: problem is is that those guys were in the studie. 2281 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,160 Speaker 1: Kid Cuddy was there for Awaits and Harbor right and 2282 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,640 Speaker 1: Scott was there for years. And I swiped that and 2283 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,880 Speaker 1: I took it to a bigger level. Exactly. I didn't 2284 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,800 Speaker 1: create it. I didn't say created said that that album 2285 01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:27,200 Speaker 1: made it J Dilla sound. I'm not into the I 2286 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 1: don't like I swiped it. It was hot and I 2287 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,879 Speaker 1: swiped it. Was in Atlanta, it was hot. The difference. 2288 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm not that, I'm not that I'm a creative. He did, 2289 01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,360 Speaker 1: I know a sound he was always gonna give Kanye. 2290 01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,240 Speaker 1: Kanye was heavily influenced by Cutting on a Ways and Heartbreaks, 2291 01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 1: but cut. He was a part of that fucking album. 2292 01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:49,480 Speaker 1: He was heavily and was in the studio. He was heavy, alright, 2293 01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:53,560 Speaker 1: He was heavily and it was by Travis. Song like 2294 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:57,400 Speaker 1: Day and Night from Kanye until Kid Cuddy was with 2295 01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,840 Speaker 1: we never heard and I can't stop winning. I can't 2296 01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:04,320 Speaker 1: we ned vibe from Kanye until so we can't say 2297 01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:06,760 Speaker 1: he did that. We all know that he did do 2298 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:08,480 Speaker 1: It was a cutty thing. What do you mean he 2299 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,760 Speaker 1: did it all of it. Yes, it was a cutty 2300 01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:14,880 Speaker 1: thing that Kanye did and did it ten times. Scott. No, no, 2301 01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:18,360 Speaker 1: So you're not you're telling me. You're telling me Kid Cuddy. 2302 01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:22,120 Speaker 1: It's not Travis West. You're telling Travis Scott for Kid Cuddy. 2303 01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:26,360 Speaker 1: It's okay. So they're his kids, they're his kids. Don't know. 2304 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,880 Speaker 1: Cuddy's one of the most influential artists ever and Kanye 2305 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:30,640 Speaker 1: is too. I'm not taking out away, but you got 2306 01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,960 Speaker 1: a credit due you think Kid Cuddy puts out a 2307 01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:36,360 Speaker 1: kid named Cuddy mixtape which was My Ship, which was 2308 01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:40,440 Speaker 1: like his first tape that everyone jumped on. And if 2309 01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,920 Speaker 1: it don't, if Kanye don't get behind Cuddi's moved like else. 2310 01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:47,800 Speaker 1: No know, what I'm saying is Kanye executed. He brought 2311 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,040 Speaker 1: them dudes in the studio and they bought the sound. 2312 01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,160 Speaker 1: They bought that and he knocked out the park. No, 2313 01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:56,840 Speaker 1: you swiped because your sound is J Dilla backpack. Your 2314 01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:58,720 Speaker 1: sound ain't I got brought in that limb. Yeah, but 2315 01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:01,280 Speaker 1: see that's not even hits. In the graduation, he was 2316 01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,840 Speaker 1: sampling Daft punk and Ship. Like every single Kanye album 2317 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,320 Speaker 1: sonically grows and is different. If you go to college dropout, 2318 01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,800 Speaker 1: you can say that Ja dealer ship, but you go 2319 01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,200 Speaker 1: to a registration, it's difficult that come around him is 2320 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:16,160 Speaker 1: the sound. That's That's what I said, Kanye. He came 2321 01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:19,600 Speaker 1: around Kanye samples people. And once again, I don't want 2322 01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:22,240 Speaker 1: anybody think I just like having conversation about this is 2323 01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,960 Speaker 1: just regular conversation. You don't want every single Kanye album. 2324 01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Yay. I have every single Kanye album. 2325 01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like every album is different, sonically Kanye way 2326 01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:35,040 Speaker 1: before a lot of this ship, like He's give me 2327 01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,920 Speaker 1: beat CDs. So I'm a Kanye West fucking fanatic. We 2328 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,240 Speaker 1: sat up here last week and I told you, niggas 2329 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:46,040 Speaker 1: like Yay Cole krit Russ, I'm fanatics of this That's 2330 01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,080 Speaker 1: what That's where I'm at with it. But that being said, 2331 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,800 Speaker 1: I this all went back to you saying, do I 2332 01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:54,040 Speaker 1: think Jesus was that ship? One hundred percent front to back, 2333 01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:58,760 Speaker 1: zero skips? That ship is a classic. No, I didn't 2334 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,000 Speaker 1: know Bound was on that album. I remember the video 2335 01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,080 Speaker 1: for Bound came. I said, you did. You didn't make 2336 01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:04,880 Speaker 1: it all the way to the end of the album. No, 2337 01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. Come on, man, and I'm 2338 01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,640 Speaker 1: a yeasy fan. I'm a blood on the leaves, blood 2339 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:14,640 Speaker 1: on the leaves, all that hold my liquor. This ship 2340 01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,080 Speaker 1: Come on with Chief Keith Dog come about. That ship 2341 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:26,120 Speaker 1: is crazy. Covall, Bro, Black skin Head is crazy. You're tripping, bro. 2342 01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:30,040 Speaker 1: That should not graduation, that should not live registration hereak. 2343 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,200 Speaker 1: It's definitely better than Life of Pablo. That shit. Ain't 2344 01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,320 Speaker 1: none of them albums better than Life of Poplo whoa 2345 01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:42,200 Speaker 1: Jesus no more? No? More parties, Jesus thirty hours. Come on, bro, 2346 01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:44,560 Speaker 1: you wild right now? Man? I love it. I love 2347 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:46,720 Speaker 1: we Kanye for now. We go about this forever. If 2348 01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell I love the life that camera and 2349 01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:53,720 Speaker 1: tell the world that Yeesus is better than Life for Pop. 2350 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:57,000 Speaker 1: Jesus is definitively better than the life of Pop. Can 2351 01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:58,800 Speaker 1: somebody raised their hand in his room? It's four people 2352 01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,640 Speaker 1: in here? Can somebody what are we doing right now? 2353 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Life of Pablo Jesus. If you want to go with 2354 02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Life for Pablo, put your hand up with me. If 2355 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna go with Jesus with him and be his friend, 2356 02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it. Listen, Bro, God bless uh, 2357 02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,720 Speaker 1: God bless the Life of Pablo. Great album. But Jesus 2358 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:22,000 Speaker 1: was Jesus is like it's aged, don't say it. I 2359 02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,480 Speaker 1: loved it when it first came out. You about that 2360 02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,760 Speaker 1: ship the same day? Was that ship came out the 2361 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,880 Speaker 1: same day as Born Center from J Cole and Mac Miller, 2362 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:32,040 Speaker 1: I brought. I bought three albums that day. Watching movies 2363 02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 1: with the soundofser was better than Jesus. You're fucking crazy, 2364 02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,520 Speaker 1: You're fucking crazy. Jesus is a fucking classic. Born Center 2365 02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,080 Speaker 1: was a good album. Jesus might be one of Kanye's 2366 02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:45,320 Speaker 1: worst albums. With Jesus is King, You're something fucking crazy, 2367 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Jesus King, it's not better than graduation. Graduation might be. 2368 02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Actually think it's you're crazy. Graduation breaks Graduation to me, 2369 02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,840 Speaker 1: is I put Jesus above graduating. No, no, no, no, no, 2370 02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:00,320 Speaker 1: you're right. That's that's that's kind of like to I'm 2371 02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I think graduation was like one of 2372 02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:06,600 Speaker 1: the best. That was the evolution. That's like I take 2373 02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:09,760 Speaker 1: cares like Drake's evolution, like my junior and senior will 2374 02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:12,520 Speaker 1: only get me in it, like that speaking shit into existence. 2375 02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,880 Speaker 1: I feel like like can't tell me nothing, and good 2376 02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,600 Speaker 1: life and I wonder and all of that shit like 2377 02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:23,400 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds and everything I'm not made me everything I am. 2378 02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,040 Speaker 1: All of that shit was a moment of like I 2379 02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,600 Speaker 1: beat fifty, I sold more than him, the Teddy Beer beat, 2380 02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,400 Speaker 1: the Bully. That shit was like a moment in time. 2381 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Bro can't tell me nothing was like we all was 2382 02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:39,400 Speaker 1: wearing scarf, like the big fucking Palestinian scoffs around our neck, skinny. 2383 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,640 Speaker 1: We always doing that. That was Jesus is better than graduation. 2384 02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,480 Speaker 1: I just named about eight songs that was incredible. He 2385 02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:50,120 Speaker 1: just had ten records. Go, but what are we talking 2386 02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,680 Speaker 1: about here? I just named eight bengas off of graduation. 2387 02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even get to the end. Drunken Hot Girls 2388 02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:58,000 Speaker 1: is on fucking graduation. That song was, Yo, can't tell 2389 02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:00,560 Speaker 1: me nothing. Barry Bonds with Lulu Wayne is on there. Yo, 2390 02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,120 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds with Lil Wayne has not aged. Well, go 2391 02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:05,920 Speaker 1: listen to that song today and tell me that song 2392 02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:08,880 Speaker 1: is aged. Well. We outa here, baby. Big Brother was great. 2393 02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Big Brother was on there too. Everything I'm not mam 2394 02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:13,400 Speaker 1: me everything. That album's not better than late Registration. I'm 2395 02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:16,240 Speaker 1: still naming songs. You stopped at one. What are we talking? 2396 02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Blood on the leaves, black skin, heead, don't drop my 2397 02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:21,600 Speaker 1: look or keep going? That's three, keep going, Welcome to 2398 02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,080 Speaker 1: the good life. Can't tell me nothing. I wonder bro 2399 02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 1: with Flashing Lights on there because we could stop talking 2400 02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:30,040 Speaker 1: right now. Flashing Lights was on late registration. Late registration 2401 02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,360 Speaker 1: to me, No, no, no, you're cheating. What do you 2402 02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:35,879 Speaker 1: mean you're cheating right now? Flashing Lights was on graduation. 2403 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:39,200 Speaker 1: That was the I wonder was it I wonder if 2404 02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:41,800 Speaker 1: and then flashing like yes you lost. Oh yeah, you're right. 2405 02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:44,040 Speaker 1: It was a better album than Yasus. It's not better 2406 02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:47,520 Speaker 1: than Late Registration. It's better than Yusus lost. I mean 2407 02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:51,400 Speaker 1: That's registration is incredible too. You don't argue with that, 2408 02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:55,160 Speaker 1: my beautiful twist, Like all of these albums are better 2409 02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:58,120 Speaker 1: than the ten song ye'ss album, all of them. It's 2410 02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,760 Speaker 1: only about five or six like incredible records on Yeesus. 2411 02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Every other album, the first six records on his Shit 2412 02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:09,360 Speaker 1: is incredible. Jesus is like Caviard bro. It's not for everybody. 2413 02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,240 Speaker 1: That's what Yesus is like four four four when you 2414 02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:17,520 Speaker 1: say it's better, you might say that is a great album. 2415 02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,360 Speaker 1: I think four four four is jay Z's worst album. 2416 02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,440 Speaker 1: That's just me. I can name ten other albums that 2417 02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:25,200 Speaker 1: are better. I think Magnet Carter Holy Girls' worst album. 2418 02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I thought that album was a steaming pilot dog shit 2419 02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:30,960 Speaker 1: what happened? That might be what you want to say. 2420 02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:33,080 Speaker 1: You know what album is most left on album that 2421 02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:36,320 Speaker 1: gets all the hate? Blueprint three, that was the double album, 2422 02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:38,840 Speaker 1: that was a double album, but that ship. I like 2423 02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:41,840 Speaker 1: that her Blueprint two, Blueprint too, That's what I'm got 2424 02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:45,640 Speaker 1: to say Blueprint three was terrible too. It's Blueprint three. 2425 02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Blueprint three had j Cole on it. They had an 2426 02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind on it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 2427 02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:54,080 Speaker 1: you had the song with phar Real some bullshit, had 2428 02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,760 Speaker 1: a with Drake on there too. Yeah yeah, I mean 2429 02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:00,080 Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind is biggest record. But yeah, I 2430 02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:02,200 Speaker 1: didn't like Blueprint three. I didn't like Magna Carta Holy Girl. 2431 02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I loved four forty four. Blueprint two had some of 2432 02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:06,400 Speaker 1: the best Jay on it ever, but it also had 2433 02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:08,760 Speaker 1: some of the Remember how you said Wayne had a 2434 02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,680 Speaker 1: tough decade? Yeah, what albums did jay Z put out 2435 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:18,800 Speaker 1: last decade? When did American Gangster come out? That was 2436 02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:20,360 Speaker 1: a great album. But I just want to go back 2437 02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:22,560 Speaker 1: because I remember you said Wayne had a rough decade. Okay, 2438 02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you that if we're talking about the last decade. 2439 02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:31,600 Speaker 1: Four forty four great album, nominated for a Grammy, Watched 2440 02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the Throne, great album. You said that album was a 2441 02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:38,680 Speaker 1: rack of dog shits. Magna cart Holy Girl was not 2442 02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,720 Speaker 1: a champ. I like that album, not for me, Sir 2443 02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:46,280 Speaker 1: tom Ford, All that shit? Right? What else? What else 2444 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,560 Speaker 1: came out from Home this decade? I was not a 2445 02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:51,760 Speaker 1: fan of the Beyonce album. But then again, there's people 2446 02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:53,520 Speaker 1: who think that that shit was incredible, and I'm like, 2447 02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't hear. I mean, I mean, I liked the 2448 02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:56,760 Speaker 1: few songs on there. I like the few songs on 2449 02:04:56,880 --> 02:05:01,160 Speaker 1: the Oh yeah, come on, come on the JA Electronic 2450 02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,880 Speaker 1: It became out in January, that shit, bro Hope washed 2451 02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:07,680 Speaker 1: j Electronica for a whole album. I mean, I don't, 2452 02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't don't. I I liked some of the joints 2453 02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:13,320 Speaker 1: on there. You don't like four forty four. I didn't 2454 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:15,400 Speaker 1: say I don't like it. You just say it's worse 2455 02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,960 Speaker 1: to me. I can't put four four four above And 2456 02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:20,760 Speaker 1: this is just me having a regular convo because I'm 2457 02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:22,600 Speaker 1: a rapper, so I probably shouldn't be talking about other 2458 02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:24,880 Speaker 1: rap shit like this, but I'm a fan, so it's 2459 02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:32,000 Speaker 1: like reasonable doubt. Yes, in my lifetime Value one, in 2460 02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:37,440 Speaker 1: my lifetime Volume two Streets is watching Volume three, So 2461 02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,360 Speaker 1: you don't put four forty four above Volume one? Uh? 2462 02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,480 Speaker 1: You said, do I put four four four above Value one? Yeah? 2463 02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Volume one is Imaginary Playmates. Lucky Great Stuff on the 2464 02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,920 Speaker 1: Street is watching. The City is Mine? A million and 2465 02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:54,360 Speaker 1: one questions. You must love me? No, I don't you 2466 02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:56,160 Speaker 1: want me to go to volume two? No? Volume two. 2467 02:05:56,200 --> 02:06:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean listen, I love Volume three. Neither on the 2468 02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:06,080 Speaker 1: way there's been a murder dope, remove your roof, nigga, 2469 02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,040 Speaker 1: Let the sun shine in. No, it's not better than 2470 02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:09,440 Speaker 1: that one either. You want to go to the next one. 2471 02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:12,320 Speaker 1: It's not better than that Black album either. It's not 2472 02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:17,240 Speaker 1: Colic service announcement. And I think black album is lu 2473 02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:21,280 Speaker 1: that kan I think black album is. I think there's 2474 02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:24,280 Speaker 1: only there's three right answer. Let's keep going through these albums. 2475 02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:27,920 Speaker 1: What's your favorite jay album? Oh, Blueprint? What's got about Blueprint? Blunt? 2476 02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:31,400 Speaker 1: What's your favorite jay Z album? Blueprint? That's fair? That 2477 02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:35,760 Speaker 1: was I think because I'm born on September eleventh, So 2478 02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,200 Speaker 1: I remember when he put the album out him in 2479 02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:44,080 Speaker 1: fab I think fabulous album. That showed me a lot too. Yeah, 2480 02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I remember just putting Blueprint on and the city, New 2481 02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:49,280 Speaker 1: York was in like a real funny It wasn't like 2482 02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:54,080 Speaker 1: a real funny area. And uh, I remember the rulers 2483 02:06:54,120 --> 02:07:04,080 Speaker 1: back fucking uh uh song cry never change all I 2484 02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:07,080 Speaker 1: need you know what I'm saying the shit with Eminem Jesus. 2485 02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:09,680 Speaker 1: I remember jay Z's had a better decade than Wayne, 2486 02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:14,200 Speaker 1: quality of music wise, would you would you well, actually yeah, 2487 02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:16,320 Speaker 1: oh wait yeah so wait is one? Yeah, so I 2488 02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:18,280 Speaker 1: would say, you know, the last ten years, if we 2489 02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:21,160 Speaker 1: had to stack up music, it would be close. Yeah, 2490 02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:23,680 Speaker 1: every every Like I said, everybody got their drop points. 2491 02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:25,400 Speaker 1: You know how you said you ain't like the Beyonce shit, 2492 02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:27,160 Speaker 1: and you ain't like the Magna Carta Holy Grail, and 2493 02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:28,720 Speaker 1: you ain't like a lot of people like Manna card 2494 02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Holy Grail. I was not one of them. A lot 2495 02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:32,840 Speaker 1: of people like Jesus, I was not one of them. 2496 02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:36,920 Speaker 1: That's fair. Most people don't like you, I think. And 2497 02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:39,280 Speaker 1: then bring this whole thing for us, this whole conversation, 2498 02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,440 Speaker 1: because I don't want nobody to get this misconstrued like 2499 02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm shitting on people. I'm a fan of all of 2500 02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,320 Speaker 1: these people that we talk about. That's why I can 2501 02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:48,640 Speaker 1: go this in depth in the conversation with you about 2502 02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,920 Speaker 1: it and not sound like I'm kicking dirt on them 2503 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and not be able to praise them in the same token. 2504 02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:57,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, a lot of a lot 2505 02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:01,200 Speaker 1: of artists that we've been talking about today, they went 2506 02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:04,480 Speaker 1: through errors of shit changing. You know what I'm saying. 2507 02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we overlooked that too, 2508 02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:10,840 Speaker 1: prime example, push your teeth. How we was talking about 2509 02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:15,720 Speaker 1: like Lord Willing, and then then when his brother went 2510 02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:17,560 Speaker 1: to do his things, so now they not the clips 2511 02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:21,120 Speaker 1: no more? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that was 2512 02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:23,360 Speaker 1: hard too. And then it's like then we've seen him 2513 02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:26,480 Speaker 1: on the VMA's with Yay, like oh shit, this ship 2514 02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:28,880 Speaker 1: might be oh yay, got a spitable where is this 2515 02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna go? Then we'll be seen where that could go. 2516 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,240 Speaker 1: He had to reinvent himself from Lord Willing, from my 2517 02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't love her. You know, is yet to reinvent himself. 2518 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:40,920 Speaker 1: He's still rapping about selling cocaine. No. But I mean 2519 02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:43,920 Speaker 1: when I say reinvent himself. When I say reinvent himself, 2520 02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean to a new eraror here to a new demographic. 2521 02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:50,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I was young listening 2522 02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:54,280 Speaker 1: to the clips, so for me to be grown, and 2523 02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:57,160 Speaker 1: the nigga from the clips still look like the nigga 2524 02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:59,120 Speaker 1: from the clips in ninety eight don't even really look 2525 02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,920 Speaker 1: like he aged. But they fucked with him right now, 2526 02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:03,880 Speaker 1: they listening to him. You know what I'm saying, It's 2527 02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:06,240 Speaker 1: the same thing with Lil Wayne. He was Lil Wayne. 2528 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:11,120 Speaker 1: He was on songs with Sammy and litl Zane Strike one. 2529 02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:15,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He bowow and shit like that. Right, 2530 02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:18,800 Speaker 1: He went through eras like Lil Wayne went through the 2531 02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Kitty era, the you know, then the teenage era, the 2532 02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:27,360 Speaker 1: getting a little older era. Then it's like, oh nah, 2533 02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:30,320 Speaker 1: he's like one of the top artists. So now he 2534 02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:32,640 Speaker 1: has the top artists, Like if you look at all 2535 02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:34,640 Speaker 1: of them fucking evers. He went through like we were 2536 02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:39,000 Speaker 1: talking about Snoop. Snoop got erors of shit, Jay got 2537 02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:42,640 Speaker 1: errors of ship Yay Yay, got errors of shit. You 2538 02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:44,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like from album to album, like 2539 02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:47,480 Speaker 1: you were saying, shit changed. Whether it was somebody coming 2540 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:49,040 Speaker 1: in with a sound and he liked it and he 2541 02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:52,120 Speaker 1: latched onto it or whatever it was, it worked. He 2542 02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:53,720 Speaker 1: did it. A lot of people might have tried to 2543 02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:55,720 Speaker 1: do that shit and it didn't work because a lot 2544 02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:58,400 Speaker 1: of people that tried to do the sounds that other 2545 02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:01,440 Speaker 1: people did or was popping at that time, they couldn't 2546 02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,120 Speaker 1: make it work for them. You know what I'm saying, so, 2547 02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:06,920 Speaker 1: same thing with Rick Ross. I remember seeing Ross in 2548 02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,720 Speaker 1: a fucking Trina video for the all about the Benjamin's 2549 02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:14,800 Speaker 1: movie with No Beard right, told y'all how to get down. 2550 02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:19,920 Speaker 1: He was out then, but he went through errors. When 2551 02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm when every Day I'm Hustling came out, it's a 2552 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:27,800 Speaker 1: total different Everdent now, definitely, it's a totally different erident now, 2553 02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:29,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he still got he 2554 02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:32,040 Speaker 1: still got us wanting to hear that fly shit. He 2555 02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:33,960 Speaker 1: still got a nigga like me waiting like yo, when 2556 02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:36,320 Speaker 1: Ros's gonna do an album with Justice League, Oh yeah, 2557 02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:41,000 Speaker 1: that'd be great. I need fifteen Rick Ross tracks over 2558 02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Justice League type production. You know what I'm saying. So 2559 02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:48,200 Speaker 1: your album is out wood panel walls out right now. Man. 2560 02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I rode it, recorded it, mixed it, shot all the videos, 2561 02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:59,080 Speaker 1: edit all of the videos, shot the documentary, edited. You 2562 02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,440 Speaker 1: handled the whole sit handled the whole ship. Man. I 2563 02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:03,160 Speaker 1: just had my homeboy master it because I was like, 2564 02:11:03,360 --> 02:11:06,040 Speaker 1: sometimes it just sounded a little a little here and there, 2565 02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:07,680 Speaker 1: But That's what I'm trying to get into. I'm trying 2566 02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:11,200 Speaker 1: to get more into the the visual aspect of it. 2567 02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I know I'm nice. You know I'm not and that's 2568 02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:15,440 Speaker 1: not even to be on no cocky shit. But I 2569 02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:19,080 Speaker 1: know I'm nice. I know I'm dead fucking nice. But 2570 02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:22,120 Speaker 1: that's not enough for me right now. At one time, 2571 02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:23,960 Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't enough, you know what I'm saying, But 2572 02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,600 Speaker 1: right now, I want to be known for more than 2573 02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,800 Speaker 1: just being nice, you know what I'm saying. Like that's 2574 02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:30,920 Speaker 1: why I'm getting into the videos and directing and shit 2575 02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:32,680 Speaker 1: like that, not saying like I just want to come 2576 02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:35,280 Speaker 1: some video direct or doing documentaries and shit, and I 2577 02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:37,720 Speaker 1: don't rap no more because rap is my first this 2578 02:11:37,880 --> 02:11:39,680 Speaker 1: is my love. Like I feel like we're in an 2579 02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:41,640 Speaker 1: error now where you don't got to retire as a rapper. 2580 02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:46,680 Speaker 1: You just put out music whenever you feel like, you know. 2581 02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,000 Speaker 1: So that's what I kind of did with this one. 2582 02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:53,560 Speaker 1: It's available, whoopaying the walls. I got Vito on there, 2583 02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:59,080 Speaker 1: I got cars on there, got my brother rel on there, 2584 02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:02,440 Speaker 1: Anthony King the dude singing on the High Roads joint. 2585 02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:04,080 Speaker 1: I got him on another joint on the project too, 2586 02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:07,960 Speaker 1: cause from dream though. Yeah, yeah, trying to trying to 2587 02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:11,400 Speaker 1: just do what I do, you know what I'm saying, 2588 02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,520 Speaker 1: because it's real. We in the error where it's real 2589 02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:15,320 Speaker 1: easy to go in the booth and just throw a 2590 02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:17,840 Speaker 1: bunch of plugins on your ship. Try to get that 2591 02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:21,440 Speaker 1: right melody, but not really say nothing, but just get 2592 02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:23,680 Speaker 1: the right melody and do that for two verses. You 2593 02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:26,000 Speaker 1: don't even need three verses no more, you know what 2594 02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So my shit is more, just go talk 2595 02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:30,680 Speaker 1: your ship, you know what I'm saying. So all you 2596 02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:32,480 Speaker 1: gotta do is talk your shit. You ain't really gotta 2597 02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:35,440 Speaker 1: just like you told me last week, you know, since 2598 02:12:35,480 --> 02:12:37,200 Speaker 1: we ain't making too much club shit because we ain't 2599 02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:40,880 Speaker 1: in the clubs. Male, I'm gonna play the music at well. 2600 02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm so at this point, man, niggas is just spitting. Man. 2601 02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad that the industry is where it's kind 2602 02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:50,720 Speaker 1: of at right now, because it's kind of like open 2603 02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:52,960 Speaker 1: field right now. You don't know who gonna beat them next, niggas. 2604 02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:55,600 Speaker 1: You don't know who gonna be the person that reinvent 2605 02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:58,800 Speaker 1: theyself and do some two chain shit. You know what 2606 02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just pop up like damn. He been around 2607 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:06,280 Speaker 1: for years. We're just starting to Damn, we're late. It's 2608 02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:07,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of artists like that, because right 2609 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:12,640 Speaker 1: now it's just downtime. Man, Like how we were talking before. 2610 02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,320 Speaker 1: I feel bad for a lot of artists that was 2611 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:17,120 Speaker 1: at the high points and now this shit fucked them up, 2612 02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:20,080 Speaker 1: like we were talking about Roddy and Roddy rich Russ. 2613 02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:22,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the whole Griselda shit. You 2614 02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:24,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Get well to Benny too, you 2615 02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:28,560 Speaker 1: know shit. Yeah, man, it's like niggas, we want to 2616 02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:30,000 Speaker 1: get back on the road. We want to get back 2617 02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:33,840 Speaker 1: out there. But if you a person that make that 2618 02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:36,480 Speaker 1: type of music right now, this ship might be a 2619 02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:38,640 Speaker 1: little it's a little sketchy because it ain't really no 2620 02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:40,920 Speaker 1: way for us to feel that vibe. But if you 2621 02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:42,760 Speaker 1: a nigga like me and you just talking some shit, 2622 02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:45,560 Speaker 1: you painting pictures with these words, or you really gotta 2623 02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:47,280 Speaker 1: do it, sit dowre and roll up a blunt poor 2624 02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:50,480 Speaker 1: soning or just sit there. People are listening about yep, 2625 02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:53,320 Speaker 1: they got their headphones in right now, you're in their cars. 2626 02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:56,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing, Boom, I'm listening to you know, 2627 02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm listening to everything too right now. A lot of 2628 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:00,480 Speaker 1: new shit too. There's so much you shout out. You 2629 02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:02,680 Speaker 1: kind of got time to kind of got time to 2630 02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:05,760 Speaker 1: fish right. You know what I'm saying talking about Discovery Ship. 2631 02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:08,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling out, man, appreciate me come here 2632 02:14:08,520 --> 02:14:10,240 Speaker 1: and talk all of this ship about a bunch of 2633 02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:13,080 Speaker 1: rappers that's gonna think I don't like them, but I 2634 02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:15,880 Speaker 1: just appreciate Uh. Once again, I appreciate you letting me 2635 02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:18,040 Speaker 1: come through, chop it up with you all good man, 2636 02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:20,400 Speaker 1: talk some ship, promote the product. By the time this 2637 02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:22,320 Speaker 1: is out, the freestyle will be out. So you go 2638 02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:24,800 Speaker 1: check out the freestyle. Oh yeah, orange Face out of here. Man, 2639 02:14:25,160 --> 02:14:27,400 Speaker 1: it's crazy. Go check that out, man. Yeah. Bluele Cab 2640 02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:30,080 Speaker 1: podcast wrapping up J Miles Oh