1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Wednesday, Jude twenty six, twenty twenty four. 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football POCAP. But we're reminded 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: it's crazy to be a sports fan. It's me and 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: your man, MG, Marcus Grandjoy, My, Michael f Florio, and 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Lakwan Jones. I was gonna mention this on yesterday show 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: completely kind of slipped my mind, but you know, like 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: being sports being a sports fan is sort of a crazy, 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: borderline stupid endeavor. And I mention it because, you know, 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: one I talk about the text chain I had with 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: my friends all the time, and one of my friends 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: is he grew up in the Bay Area like the 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: rest of us, but he is of Croatian descent and 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: he has family in Canada. And on Monday he had 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: maybe the worst possible sports that you could imagine, because 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: the Croatian national team of the Euros coughed up a 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: late one nothing lead. They ended up in a tie 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and they get eliminated. So that's how his day started. Yeah, 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: and then later that night his family near Edmonton, and 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, the Oilers had pushed it all the way 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: to Game seven and then they lose in Game seven, 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: of the Stanley Cup finals. So like his we had 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: to do like a wellness check on him to make 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: sure everything's fine. 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean he has. 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: He has texted us a couple of times since Monday nights, 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: so we appear, it appears, at least on the surface, 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: that all is well, unless unless somehow his son is 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: just ghost texting for him. But it was just a 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: reminder that being a sports fan is just stupid. 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we shouldn't do it. It's also hilarious, like 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: the fat at Canada. Look, look, I'm not gonna talk 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: about the soccer thing. I'm not a hockey guy at all, 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: but the fact that Canada as a country hasn't won 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: a Stanley Cup in. 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: Over thirty years thirty is hilarious to me. 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: I was trying to think of, like, could you imagine 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: if like eighty percent of the NFL moved to like 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Canada and then like all of those teams kept winning 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: super Like if you know, if somehow we were like 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: holding on to the Jaguars and like the Falcons is 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: our last chance to win Super Bowls? Like oh gosh, 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Canada man, like this is their 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: national sport and like it's it's basically been. 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: Taking and we dominate them minute. 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we dominate, right, even though most of them are Canadian. 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: The funniest part is, though I've talked to some Canadians, 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: like mostly Canadians on the West Coast, like British Columbia 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, who were sort of like, yeah, man, if 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: it's not the Canucks, then I don't care. 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: I think you know. It was like sort of like, yeah, 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: like whatever, cheer for whatever. It's not the Canucks, Like 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: that's my team, I don't really care. 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: So whatever, We're gonna dive into some off season storylines 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: that maybe are overblown, maybe deserve more attention. The inspiration 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: for this was an article that our own Eric ed 56 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: Holm wrote on NFL dot com. 57 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: You can go check it out. 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Plus, we're gonna die into a preview of the scott 59 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: Fish Bowl because we're just a few weeks away, a 60 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks away actually from the sf BE draft 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: kicking off. It's just only a fun day on Twitter 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: when people are posting their first picks. So yeah, we'll 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: dive into that in just a little bit. But first 64 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: let's get to Eric ed Holmes article. It is at 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: NFL dot com. It is titled five NFL offseason storylines 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: that are overblown, Five that deserve more attention. I pulled 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: a couple out that I felt like we're talking about. 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Not all of them were offensive minded, but I got 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: a couple that were the first. One overblown florio the 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: immediate success for Caleb Williams. There are high expectations. There's 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: already talked that he's in year one gonna be the 72 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: first Bears passer to throw for four thousand yards. Have 73 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: we gone a little bit too overboard on expectations for 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams? 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. I disagree with ed with 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 5: at home on this one, because if it was like 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: Bryce Young's rookie year or Trevor Lawrence's rookie year, then yeah, 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 5: then it's like, Okay, what did you expect these guys 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: to do in year one? 80 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: But I would make the yard that at. 81 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 5: Least in recent history, a number one quarterback has never 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: gone into a better situation like he's throwing to DJ Moore, 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: who is a proven wide receiver, one Keenan Allen, who 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: is potentially a future Hall of Famer and still at 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: the peak of his game. 86 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: And then you add in Roma Dunsa. 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: And all the weapons they're like, this has been a 88 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 5: build up, and kudos to Ryan Poles. He saw the 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: vision well before a lot of other people. But the 90 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: Bears have been building up for this season for three 91 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 5: years now and all the pieces are in place. So like, 92 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: I think the Bears could make the playoffs this year. 93 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: I think Caleb could throw for four thousand yards. I 94 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 5: think that's all on the table. I'm not saying if 95 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: those things don't happen, it's a failure. 96 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: But if Caleb goes out. 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: There and looks lost and really struggles and has like 98 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 5: a very down year one, I think we're gonna the 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 5: narrative around the Bears is going to be very very 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 5: different a year from now. 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess you agree though that that's 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: overblown or are you the only read that it's overblown? 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 6: Lakwan, Yeah, it's not overblown. Like this is a real factor. 104 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 7: You have this caliber of a quarterback coming in with 105 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 7: a very strong wide receiver corps, with a great running 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 7: back room as well. Like, the expectations are going to 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 7: be high. This is the best team Bears fans I've 108 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 7: probably seen in the last twenty years. To be honest, Like, 109 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 7: I feel as though, like you have Caleb Williams the 110 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 7: quarterback that he is, Like, you're going to enjoy the 111 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 7: ride regardless of what it is, because we know they're 112 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 7: going to go out there and win some games with 113 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 7: this offense. So as a Bears fan, your expectations deserve 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 7: to be high. Versus having somebody like justin Field still 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 7: in the building. Your expectations now are like, all right, 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 7: we have the squad, we have the offense. Let's get 117 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 7: to the playoffs. Let's go far in the playoffs. Let's 118 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 7: go to the super Bowl in first couple of years 119 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 7: of Caleb's career. Wow, this is possible things. Yeah, these 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 7: are possible things. I mean, you're looking at Keenan Allen. 121 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 7: He's still a guy that's out there, route running as well, 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 7: contested catch as well. DJ Moore is a proven wide 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 7: receiver one like four Florio said, who can also stretch 124 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 7: a field. And then you have Bo Dunes in the mix. 125 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 7: This is a crazy, high power offense that the Bears 126 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 7: fans have probably never seen in their life super. 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: Bowl Offensively, the Bears have been great defensively all the time. 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, let me clean that up. 129 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: I guess I sort of agree with him that it's 130 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: sort of overblown because I've been the ones saying that 131 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna hit four thousand yards in 132 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: his rookie year. 133 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I think it happens. 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I think he will hit that mark in his career, 135 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: maybe year two, year three. I don't see it happening 136 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: in year one. I wouldn't looked. There have been six 137 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: rookie or five rookie quarterbacks, only five rookie quarterbacks to 138 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: throw for four thousand yards in a season, right Obviously CJ. 139 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: Stroud the most recent to do it. Andrew Luck did 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: it in twenty twelve. Justin Herbert did it in twenty twenty, 141 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: Cam Newton in twenty eleven. 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 6: Jamis Winston. Let's go Winston. 143 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think if 144 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: he goes out and throws for thirty seven thirty eight 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: hundred yards, I think that's a really good season. 146 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: It's not four thousand, it's a win. 147 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: I know Bears fans are hoping that Caleb is the 148 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: guy that leads him to the Promised Land, that he 149 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: takes him to the super Bowl. I will just say 150 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: to you, are we thinking that Patrick Mahomes is going 151 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: to retire soon? I mean, like, right, I guess if 152 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna make a Super Bowl right now, the NFC 153 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: is probably the place to do it. 154 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because in the AFC, you've. 155 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Got Mahomes, You've still got Lamar Jackson, You've got Josh Allen. 156 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: You know, it looks like you've got CJ. Stroud to 157 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: deal with now, Joe Joe Burrow. You've got so many 158 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks to deal with on the AFC side. There 159 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: isn't that depth of quarterback on the NFC side, So 160 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: maybe that's a better spot. I know we've been hearing 161 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: about Caleb for a couple of years. I know he's 162 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be the next generational thing. It just feels 163 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: like this idea that he walks in in year one 164 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: and not only matches, but surpasses what CJ. Stroud does 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: when nobody expected this side of c J. Stroud, it 166 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: just true feels like a lot. 167 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 5: What what would in your opinion, then, Marcus, what would 168 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: be a disappointing year for Caleb? 169 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think if he struggles, if he 170 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: if he's just around three thousand yards, I think if 171 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: you're looking at a touchdown interception ratio that is somewhere 172 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: close to one to one, I think I think that's 173 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: going to be disappointing. Also, you know, factor in the 174 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: division that he's in, right, the Lions were in the 175 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: NFC championship game. Uh, the the Packers made the playoffs, 176 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: and they look like they are continuing to improve, you know. 177 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean the Vikings, I think are still sort of 178 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: in a rebuilding mode. But you've got two pretty solid 179 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: playoff teams already in your division. So there's already gonna 180 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: be a lot of hurdles for you to get over 181 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: throwing the fact that's before you get to you know, 182 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles being better, the Cowboy who knows what the 183 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to do? But you got you have 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: an NFC West where the forty nine ers are going 185 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: to be there, the Rams are going to be very 186 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: good this year. We'll see what the Seahawks and Cardinals 187 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: are going to do there. There may not be it 188 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: may not be as top heavy in the NFC, but 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of depth and competition, and so I 190 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: just think you sort of have to so factor that 191 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: in and Tiper the expectations. 192 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: Especially in year one for Caleb Williams. There's a reason 193 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: we keep. 194 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Saying that Jayden Daniels is the fantasy quarterback we want 195 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: from the rookie class, right, Like, if that's the guy 196 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: we want in fantasy in year one, how are we 197 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: expecting Caleb Williams to just come out and just be 198 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: gangbusters this year? 199 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: It just I don't know, man. 200 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 5: I will say, as much as I love Jade and 201 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: Daniels and and I think I do agree, he's the 202 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: one I want more in fantasy. 203 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 4: If any rookie has a CJ. Strout type rookie year, 204 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: it's going to be Caleb Williams. 205 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I could buy that the tools. 206 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: I will also say they did win seven games last year. 207 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: True. 208 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: I will push back though, Lakwan, I'm a little nervous 209 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: about about Keenan Allen this year. 210 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: I don't like saying it. 211 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: I love Keenan Allen, I love him, but older guy, 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: he's been banged up the last couple of years. 213 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I don't know. 214 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I know people have done the research on this, but 215 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: veteran wide receivers moving to a new offense that first year, but. 216 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 6: He's in the slot, he's not gonna be doing much. 217 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: He also has more target competition than maybe he's ever 218 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: had in his career too. Never never had this, never 219 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: had this much depth in a wide. 220 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 7: Name with Dj Moore too. That's kind of my case 221 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 7: to not really go so heavy on Dj Moore that 222 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 7: he's never had this target competition his entire career. 223 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 6: He's always been the only guy I've pushed. 224 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm like, yeah, we're doing We're drafted it. 225 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: I guess. 226 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: Ironically, the Bears wide receiver almost likely to draft is 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 5: probably Roman Doonsday because he's far the cheapest. 228 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: All right, So we got it all covered between the three. 229 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: It's great. Uh. 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of wide receivers, one thing that Eric at Holmes 231 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: says is overblown is the panic over the Chargers wide 232 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: receivers that we've been sitting here saying that, well, they 233 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: got Jim Harball and Greg Roman, then they drafted an 234 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: offensive lineman and they bring in Gus Edwards and JK. 235 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: Dobbins. Then you reminds you, like, look, they're. 236 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Still going to throw the football, yeah, because they've got 237 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. They do draft, they did draft Lad McConkie. 238 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: They're trying to rebuild Quinton Johnston and more of the 239 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: image that he was at TCU. So, lakwan, have we 240 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: gone too far freaking out over the Chargers passing game? 241 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 7: I think at this point, Yeah, just how high the 242 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 7: overblown has gone of, like just completely counting out Justin Herbert. 243 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 7: He's still a great quarterback man and you have some 244 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 7: pieces there that you're hopeful for lat mcconfie comes in 245 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 7: as a. 246 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: Reliable target for him. 247 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 7: You still have Joshua Palmer who's shown the flashes in 248 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 7: the past. He hasn't been consistent, but neither has his opportunities. 249 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 7: Like if you look at the games that he played 250 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 7: last season that he had sixty five percent of the snaps, 251 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 7: he had two one hundred yard games in there, and 252 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 7: he averaged seventy five receiving yards per game. Very small sample, 253 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 7: but it just shows there's something there. Keenan Allen presence 254 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 7: as the alpha wide receiver will be missed, but I 255 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 7: think overall they should be fine, and they're still going 256 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 7: to be running the ball as heavy as they're gonna be, 257 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 7: and they're still gonna be throwing the ball. Where you 258 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 7: have Joshua Palmer that can be a guy that has 259 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 7: the previous chemistry with Justin Herbert to be his number one. 260 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: FLOORYA, are you still willing to give Quinton Johnston another shot? 261 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: I mean last year was bad, but. 262 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, last year was bad. 263 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: Uh It. 264 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 5: He's not someone that I'm gonna like want on every 265 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: one of my teams. But I haven't, in like my 266 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 5: early best ball drafts, taken a shot or two on 267 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: him because I was saying a lot of what the 268 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: Chargers came out like. I just never felt like he 269 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: was used in a way that fits his skill set. 270 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: I think everyone see and Marcus. When we saw him 271 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 5: in person at training camp last year, we were like, 272 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: oh my goddess, like imagine him. But then you watch 273 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 5: the tape and you're like, he doesn't play that way. 274 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: He's a yat guy. 275 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: But I believe in Lad McConkie as well. Like I 276 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: comp him to Tyler Lockett. He's an excellent separator. I 277 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: think he can be like long term, be there one 278 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: and Quentin Johnson could be there too, even though when 279 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 5: you look at them you probably think it would be 280 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 5: the other way around. But yeah, I expect a lot 281 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: of running from this team, so I'm not I agree. 282 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: I think the wide receiver room is being overblown. One 283 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 5: thing I wanted to ask you guys, and I will say, 284 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 5: like when I used to I kept saying on the show, 285 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 5: like I'm fading justin Herbert. 286 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: But now you see he's going outside the top fifteen 287 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: quarterbacks in some drafts. 288 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 5: And I'm taking a shot on him then, because I 289 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 5: keep thinking what if, And this is what I wanted 290 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: to ask you guys, like what if they let him 291 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 5: run more? Because you look at at the coaching staffs 292 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: and their history with running quarterbacks Colin Kaepernick, Tara Taylor, 293 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson for Greg Roman, They've always had a quarterback 294 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 5: that runs Herbert Ken run. 295 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: He just wasn't asked to do so a whole bunch 296 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: with the previous regime. 297 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit more, I don't. 298 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: I guess they have some designed runs for him, right, 299 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Like he's never gonna be the guy I think that 300 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: just takes off and breaks out, right, We're not gonna 301 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: think of him as Lamar or you know, Jaden Daniels 302 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: or Anthony Richardson. Maybe they design a few more runs 303 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: for him. 304 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, really, I don't know. Do you think 305 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: they use him near the goal line more importantly, I guess. 306 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 7: Oh god, no, no, I keep him away from the 307 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 7: goal line, it's going to get banged up again. I 308 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: mean the ribs man that that would be my biggest 309 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 7: fear if they start getting him to run more. I 310 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 7: just think him as a pocket passer, as a as 311 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 7: a quarterback that has the great decision making and makes 312 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 7: the right choices, and if you have this offense of 313 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 7: what it is, I think getting him outside the top 314 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 7: fifteen is kind of a steal because he's still part 315 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 7: of that five thousand yard club. He's still a guy 316 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 7: that can stretch the field. He's one of those great 317 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 7: quarterbacks that we have have to keep in conversation with. 318 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 7: So I'm taking all justin Herbert later if I can. 319 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 7: If I'm building that. 320 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Way, yeah, no, I mean at that price, absolutely, that's 321 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: a sweet price. 322 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: I definitely overblown with the running thing. 323 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm hoping for like four to five hundred 324 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: rushing yards because he's always been over two and a. 325 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: Three touchdown guy pretty much every year in his career. 326 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: So we get that up to like. 327 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: Four hundred yards and five rushing touchdowns, and I think 328 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: he makes up for all the passing loss. 329 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be interesting. We'll take a week break, 330 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: come back. We'll dive into more of these offseason storylines 331 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: in just a bit. Here on the NFL Fantasy Football podcast, 332 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Eric at Home on NFL dot Com has a story 333 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: about five offseason storylines that are overblown, five that deserve 334 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: more attention. We talked about a couple that were overblown. 335 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple that he thinks deserve more attention. 336 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: One he talked about with the quarterback situation for the Giants. 337 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: And I bring this one up because we had Judy 338 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Batista on last week and we sort of asked her 339 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: about this Daniel Jones versus Drew Locke situation, and her 340 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: suggestion was that they really are in on Daniel Jones. 341 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: They still believe in him. Locke is there sort of 342 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: as insurance. Eric Edenholman suggests that maybe there's more to 343 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: this competition than people are sort of letting on. So, Flora, 344 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: I will start with you, should we be paying more 345 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: attention to the QB competition in New York? 346 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: I think so, although I don't think there's a ton 347 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: of competition for who starts Week one, Like I am 348 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 5: a firm believer that I think the Giants, because of 349 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: how invested they are into him and because of what 350 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: they got out of him two seasons ago, are going 351 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: to give Daniel Jones at least another opportunity, and his 352 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 5: play will determine how long that will last. But if 353 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 5: he struggles and it looks like it did last season, 354 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: I think Drew Locke was brought here to kind of 355 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 5: potentially take over in the second half if things go 356 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 5: wrong for Daniel Jones. But I also kind of think 357 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is being overlooked in fantasy a little bit. 358 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: Like I understand how awful last year was and that 359 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: he's coming off the acl tair, but just a season 360 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: before that, he was a top ten fantasy quarterback. Now 361 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 5: he's going like outside the top twenty five. So to me, 362 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: I I'm not saying I'm in on Daniel Jones, but 363 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: I think he's undervalued a little bit. 364 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, so I'll ask you, Lakwa. I mean, right, 365 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: we're not really drafting Daniel Jones. But if you are drafting, 366 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: say Melik Neighbors, or if you decide you want to 367 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: maybe take a swing at one Dale Robinson, do you 368 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: have a preference of who you'd like to see a quarterback. 369 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 7: Man, it probably would be Daniel Jones. But honestly, it's 370 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 7: like it's very close because his leash is very short. 371 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 7: He could be pulled week two, week three if he's 372 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 7: still struggling, because I think you bring in a guy 373 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 7: like Drew Locke because he has put on tape. He 374 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 7: could step in for that game for Gino Smith. He 375 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 7: can go out there and put some points on the board. 376 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 7: So I feel as though, like it's a nasty situation 377 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 7: if you're looking to invest in any Giants. 378 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 6: Wide receivers because the quarterback play, it's. 379 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 7: Gonna matter a ton, But like we should kind of 380 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 7: just look at Daniel Jones for what he is. He does, 381 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 7: still had the rushing upside. Two seasons ago, he was 382 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 7: top ten. I just feel as though it's not really 383 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 7: going to be like a large leash that he'll have. 384 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 7: So honestly, I'm not really looking into either one of 385 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 7: these guys for fantasy or the wide receivers. 386 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: I mean, like I've drafted the Leak neighbors a few times. 387 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: I will say that I've taken some end of draft 388 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: I mean like round seventeen eighteen dart throws at Jalen 389 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: Hyatt's Yeah, and but I'm not doing it based on 390 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: who I think the quarterback is gonna be. I'm doing 391 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: it based on because I think these guys are talented 392 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: or their level of talent and the fact that they 393 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: can potentially earn targets in certain situations. 394 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: That's kind of it. 395 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 5: That's I will say. I think Drew Locke is purely. 396 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: Running on vibes. 397 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 5: Like I know, it was a small sample size last year, 398 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: but you look at his numbers and he's the same 399 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 5: quarterback he's always been. But when he's out there, it 400 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: looks fun and and he's got all this confidence and stuff, 401 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, he's still. 402 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 6: Kind of Drew lock. 403 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 404 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: I think that's that's probably lock it up last one here? 405 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: Uh That that Eric ed Holme thinks deserves more attention 406 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's shoulder, and he brings it up because Richardson 407 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: talked about having a little bit of shoulder soreness. Now 408 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: he says it's not a big deal, but he said 409 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: it set off some alarm bells for him that you 410 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: talk about quarterbacks and shoulder soreness. That is something that's 411 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of a red flag, especially for a 412 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: guy who had surgery in the offseason. That is what 413 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: he injured, that that put him down for the year 414 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, Flora, we saw the videos, the 415 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: photos of him. He's put on weight, he's gotten bigger. 416 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: We've seen videos of him throwing fantasy. Twitter has already 417 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, had its huge, like big, you know, sigh 418 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: of relief and her big celebration. Should maybe we be 419 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: listening to the shoulder soreness complaints a little bit about 420 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. 421 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: If we're hearing about it in July and August, when 422 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: when training camp in preseason and stuff is going on, Yeah, 423 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 5: if we hear about it impacting his ability to make 424 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 5: certain throws, or or it hurts on the long anything 425 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 5: like that, I will one hundred percent take notice too. 426 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: A player working their way back from injury, first time, 427 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 5: really ramping up in June dealing with some soreness, to me, 428 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: it's kind of to be expected. It's like when a 429 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 5: pitcher is working their way back from an arm injury 430 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 5: and they throw and then it's like, all right, yeah, 431 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: there's a little fatigue. We're gonna take a week off 432 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: and then they're back and they're on their throwing program. Like, yeah, 433 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 5: if this is still an issue when he's supposed to 434 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: be out there and if we hear it impacts him 435 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 5: at all, I'll change my mind. But right now, a 436 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: day off in June, I'm not I don't think that's 437 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 5: a big. 438 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: Deal, are you. I'm sure you are drafting him, lakwan. 439 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, how high are you willing to draft him? 440 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: And you're drafting him as a top five, top six 441 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: quarterback and will this change anything? 442 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 7: I'm drafting them as like a top seven quarterback. I 443 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 7: feel as though, like it's good to hear it now, 444 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 7: Like there's some soreness in the shoulder which he's recovering 445 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 7: from rehab, I mean gained the way he's just been 446 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 7: sitting on the couch, you know, like reading plays and 447 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 7: reading the playbook and stuff like that. But hopefully that's 448 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 7: just him shedding some rust off. But we're hearing about 449 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 7: it now, like it would be in the back of 450 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 7: my mind. But once we start getting closer to the 451 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 7: draft day and August and stuff like that, it will 452 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 7: be in my attention, you know, Like, all right now, 453 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 7: I got to pull back a little bit because this 454 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 7: dude's been dealing with soreness or dealing whatever he's been 455 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 7: dealing with for the last couple of months. But I'm 456 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 7: still in on Anthony Richardson today as of today in June. 457 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, it does give me a 458 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: little bit of pause, But I think the the thing 459 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't concern me so much is that generally we're 460 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: not drafting him for the passing ability. We hope it 461 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: comes together. We hope, I mean, we hope that becomes 462 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: a thing, right, We hope he improves there because that's 463 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna certainly, you know, raise his ceiling. It's gonna you know, 464 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: improve his stock overall. That's not the reason we're drafting him. No, 465 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: drafting him because of his ability to run, because of 466 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: what he can do at the goal line and that 467 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: sort of thing. 468 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: So you know, I get it. 469 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: I understand reason to sort of you know, look at 470 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: that a second time, but it's not stopping me from 471 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: drafting him where I have been, especially in Best Ball. 472 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 5: One thing on Richardson real quick, we don't hear about 473 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: it a lot. 474 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: But like Shane Styken was part of the brain trust 475 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: that invented the. 476 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 5: Toush push and Anthony Richardson is every bit as capable 477 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 5: of completing that as Jayleen. 478 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: Don't don't say that out loud, because anybody who's drafting 479 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor does not need. 480 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: You don't. 481 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: You don't need Jonathan Tailor getting down to the one 482 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: and then they just decide to toush push. Anthony richards 483 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: called the Brotherly Shove in Indianapolis, like, I don't know 484 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: what they would call it. 485 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 6: Oh man, now I gotta think of that. It's kind 486 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 6: of bother me. 487 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to come 488 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: up with some things. But what's like a break first, 489 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: and I can come up with some things. Maybe during 490 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: the break we'll come back. 491 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Scott FISHBOWLT coming up very soon. 492 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some draft strategies for that one. That's 493 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, It is time 494 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: to Drive your Draft, presented by the all new hybrid 495 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: Toyota Camery figured this week, the way to talk about 496 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: driving your draft is to focus on a specific draft, 497 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: that being the Scott Fish Bowl, the fourteenth edition of 498 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: the Scott Fish Bowl. And of course every year there 499 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: are some new little tweaks and when it comes to 500 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: the scoring, and that should impact how you draft your team. 501 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: So some of the highlights of the scoring system for 502 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: those of you who are fortunate enough to participate. And 503 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: I know there are still some some tournaments going on 504 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: for some wildcard spots as well for future I guess 505 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: for futures FBS, right, I think is what it is. 506 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: It is a super flex tournament, which I you know, look, 507 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: I will admit there have been a couple of times 508 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: where I have just spaced on it and I'm like, 509 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: why are all these quarterbacks gone? 510 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, crap. 511 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: So it's a super plex league's a night end premium, 512 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: so they get one and a half points per reception, 513 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: but it is lower for quarterbacks and running backs, just 514 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: a half. 515 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: Point ppr for those players. 516 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't really matter so much for quarterbacks 517 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: because they're generally not catching the football. 518 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: But you never know. I you take some hills of 519 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: the world out. 520 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: There, Oh, that's why it's there. 521 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly why it's there. And then kickers get involved 522 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: here in an interesting way. Three point three points for 523 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: every extra point, and then decimal bonus is for field goal. 524 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: So for instance, a thirty seven yard field goal is 525 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: three point seven points. A twenty four yarder is two 526 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: point four points. So if you have a kicker that 527 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: kicks a lot of long field goals forty and fifty yarders, 528 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: then potentially that is an advantage for you there. So 529 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: first off, Lakwan, what is your strategy for drafting? You 530 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: have a particular strategy when you approach the scott Fish Bowl. 531 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 7: I have to do more drafts, but I did a 532 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 7: mock just the other day and like, I want to 533 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 7: get on these mobile quarterbacks like asap, because they were 534 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 7: flying off the board and it's like, you want your 535 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 7: Josh Allens, you want your Jalen Hurts, and you want 536 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 7: your Colin Murrays and et cetera. 537 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 6: Et cetera. 538 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 7: Because you're only getting one point for fifty yards in 539 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 7: the passing yards of the Scorge system, so you kind 540 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 7: of want a quarterback that can double dip because man, 541 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 7: you're you're gonna be getting the extra little bonus points 542 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 7: from the running as well for each yard. So I think, 543 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 7: you know, I want to lock up the mobile quarterbacks 544 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 7: early and then hit on the tight ends because that 545 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 7: premium is going to be awesome because they get a 546 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 7: little extra bonus as well for those first downs. So 547 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 7: you want to target a tight end that's going to 548 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 7: be relied on that very crucial moment and a guy 549 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 7: that's going to be obviously in the tight end friendly offense. 550 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 7: So you want your Mark Andrews, you want your you know, 551 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 7: Sam Laporti's and Travis Kelce's. 552 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: You talk about the Travis Kelces the Sam Report. Is 553 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: there also another feature? There is points per first down too. 554 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: You do get a point per first down. I mean, Florida, 555 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: could we see maybe a couple of tight ends sneak 556 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: into the first rounds in these drafts? 557 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 5: I definitely think you could. I'll never be the one 558 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: doing it in the super Flex. My strategy in super 559 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 5: Flex is almost always the same. I'm going to grab 560 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 5: a quarterback in first in the first round, and then 561 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 5: I'll probably take another quarterback or two, four or five 562 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 5: rounds later something like that. I'm not the typically every 563 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: draft is different, but I'm typically not the double dippering 564 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: quarterback guy. And I get the tight end premium being 565 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: so valuable, but it's only a half a point difference 566 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: between a wide receiver and a tight end, and those 567 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 5: elite wide receivers are going to rack up. In my opinion, 568 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 5: I think a lot more catches and yards than a 569 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: lot of the elite tight ends like Sam Reporter didn't 570 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 5: even have nine hundred yards last year, whereas I could 571 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: get someone like AJ Brown or something like that who's 572 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 5: routinely goes for fourteen hundreds. So and in this league, 573 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: you you have six flex spots, so I could start 574 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 5: up to as many as seven wide receivers. So my 575 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 5: opinion is still pound wide receiver early. Now. If I 576 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 5: feel if tight end is a good value, I'm not 577 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 5: gonna shy away from taking them. 578 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 4: Typically I'll punch on running back in scott Fishbelt. 579 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 5: But wide receiver is still, in my opinion, my most 580 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 5: important emphasis in the early rounds. 581 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: So because you do get that bonus for tight end catches, 582 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: and because it's still a full point for wide receiver catches, 583 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: obviously it changes sort of the way guys go off 584 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: the board. 585 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: Lukwan, could we. 586 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: See Christian McCaffrey fall out of the first round in 587 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: some of these drafts, not in the. 588 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 6: Mack I did yesterday. He actually went in the first 589 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 6: five or six picks. 590 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: Because you're you're getting the dude that's obviously still be 591 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: the alpha of his team where he's the best player 592 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 7: on that roster. You had twenty one touchdowns, Like, he's 593 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 7: going to find the end zone a ton, So it's like, 594 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 7: no way, I'm gonna bounce off of that bonus as well, 595 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 7: where you're getting the running backs. I think it's zero 596 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 7: point two five per rushing attempt. He's getting all the carries, 597 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 7: so I want all all those little extra points in 598 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 7: the guy that we know it's a solid one on one. 599 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 7: So yeah, after the while, you know, once the mobile 600 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 7: quarterbacks get out of the way, the Josh Allens of 601 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 7: the world, he's probably gonna be sitting there in the 602 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 7: first five to six picks. 603 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: Uh. The other thing that I think is interesting here 604 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: and Florya, you talk about these six flex spots. Now, 605 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: if you're playing on sleeper, there are different platforms you 606 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: can play on. If you are playing on sleeper, you 607 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: are forced to draft a kicker because you cannot flex 608 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: a kicker. 609 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: It is one of the spots there. 610 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I mean, in general, is it 611 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: worth drafting a kicker if you're getting to the later rounds? 612 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: Right? And sure, you can start up to seven wide receivers. 613 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: But I think I can make an argument that I 614 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: would rather have, say, and Evan McPherson over a Jalen 615 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Hyatt or something like that. I mean, at some point, 616 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: does it make sense to go draft a kicker later. 617 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: In these you heard Kelly groening because she hates kickers. Oh, 618 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 5: I think it gets to a point where yes, like 619 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: like that's a good like, yeah, the kicker is going 620 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: to outscore the wide receiver at that point. But I 621 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 5: never drafted kicker because scott Fishbowl is so deep, and 622 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 5: we joke about it all the time, Marcus, Like, the 623 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 5: waiver wire is almost non existent in that league. You're 624 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 5: not typically going to find breakout wide receivers or running 625 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: backs on the waiver wire. You know what you still 626 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 5: will find on. 627 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: The waiver wire kickers. 628 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 5: So because of that, I'm using all of my draft 629 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: spots on upside receivers, running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks, whatever 630 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 5: it might be. And then in season, I'm okay, if 631 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: whichever one doesn't hit, I'm okay. 632 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: Dropping for now. 633 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna have one of the top kickers, but 634 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: I'll still have a useful kicker that'll get me some 635 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 5: points and there's always a couple of kickers that end 636 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 5: up coming out of nowhere or whatever the case may be, 637 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: so I think it's worth rostering them. I just don't 638 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: love using a valuable draft spot because once the draft 639 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: is over, it's so much harder her in this league 640 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 5: that's so deep to find talent. 641 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 6: On the waiver wire. 642 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: I might be remembering this wrong. Didn't Kate Maju draft 643 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: like Justin Tucker first last year? I feel like I 644 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: know Kate did something a little bit, and like, krudos 645 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: to her, because yeah, and Scott Fish made the point. 646 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: They're like, it's really hard to win this tournament, right, yes, 647 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: so why not do something fun that's gonna be memorable. 648 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: I want to say it was a kicker, but I 649 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: know she did something with her first pick with the 650 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: one dot oh one last year that was just like 651 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: what yo. 652 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: And then when you gotta. 653 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Sat it, you said you sat back, You're like, Okay, 654 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: this is just fun, right, It's just just somebody having 655 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: fun with the situation. 656 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: The draft is the. 657 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 5: Best part of it, like the week tweeting out your 658 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 5: picks and stuff like that, and then it's like, all right, 659 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 5: that was fun. I'll see you guys next year because 660 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 5: I know I'm not winning this thing. 661 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm probably not gonna win this thing. I I 662 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, Like I have the same 663 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: feeling every year. It's like I draft this team and 664 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: I feel okay about it, and then when we get 665 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: to set lineups in like late August or September or whatever, 666 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I look back and I'm like, what was I doing? Yeah, 667 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: what was I thinking about when I drafted this team? 668 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: That happens. 669 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 6: That was me last year as well. 670 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: Like I can literally tell in the draft where I 671 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 7: started drinking and I stopped caring and started won the 672 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 7: socialize with everybody because it was that trophy smack HQ 673 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 7: for the LA Live Draft. 674 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 6: So it was kind of like I was just having 675 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 6: fun man at that point. 676 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the live drafts were happening around the 677 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: country as well. I'm not going to be able to 678 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: participate in the LA one, which isn't this weekend. 679 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: It's coming up. 680 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 6: Oh wait soon, it's not this weekend, Okay, it was. 681 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: I only joined yesterday. I joined the league and that 682 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: one was full. 683 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So anyway, I know the Drive Draft 684 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: is coming up. I think I'm not available for it, 685 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: so I won't be there. But Lakwan, I know you 686 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: were there last year. Uh the good photos photos looked 687 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: like they were a lot of fun. One thing I 688 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: do have to ask you about the LQ because you've 689 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: talked about your DST plus theory in terms of like 690 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: scoring defenses and like the way the new kickoff rules work. 691 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: One of the rules in the Scott Fish Bowl is 692 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: that you get ten points for a sick or a 693 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: punt return. 694 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: Now that belongs to the individual player. 695 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 6: There are no. 696 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: DSTs that you're drafting here. But does the methodology does 697 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: your thought process sort of work similarly here in terms 698 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: of like the guys and the teams that you're targeting there. 699 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 7: Yes, So like there's guys like Marvin Mems, Damien Pierce 700 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 7: or Shishahi. These are double dipping opportunities for you where 701 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 7: they were very strong in that department and special teams, 702 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 7: and like I love getting guys that are kind of 703 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 7: like off to the side for guy, and like of Damien 704 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 7: Pierce and a Marvin Mems because man, these guys have 705 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 7: shown naked return a touchdown back in the old ages 706 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 7: of what the kick return format was. Now we're getting 707 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 7: into this hybrid area of where, like man, it's not easier, 708 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 7: but I think you will see a lot more touchdowns 709 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 7: out of this format, just based on how we've seen 710 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 7: it displayed in other leagues. And like this hybrid man, 711 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 7: it's going to make kickoffs a lot more exciting. And 712 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 7: if I can get a guy like Rashi Shihid that 713 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 7: we're hoping for this breakout season, ten points for a 714 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 7: kick return man. 715 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 6: That is huge. 716 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 7: For a guy like Rashidi sh that's gonna get some 717 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 7: offensive opportunity and he's kind of looking like the number 718 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 7: two for the Saint. So I love the target guys 719 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 7: like that. 720 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. 721 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I would be interested to see as these drafts go along, 722 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: how many of these late round picks are guys that 723 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: have potential to run. 724 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 7: Back if you're Gifton and stuff like that. I think 725 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 7: he led in return yards last year and it's like 726 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 7: these are very strong players that. 727 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 6: Have the ability to take it to the house. 728 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in this new world, with this this new 729 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: kickoff format, how many guys are maybe gonna find some 730 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: new life on fantasy rosters especially let's go. 731 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 6: I'm excited. 732 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 7: I'm really excited like this, Like I finally put the 733 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 7: vote in for my home league, and they're like, all right, fine, 734 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 7: because I'm not the commission anymore, so I can't just 735 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 7: bully the rules anymore. 736 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 6: But they were like, all right, we'll do it. It sounds fun. 737 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: Commission's most thankless job in fans. 738 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 6: Yea, oh, I'm done. I'm no more leagues. I don't 739 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 6: commission on it. 740 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: Never had any interest in doing it, never want to 741 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: do it. Shout out to the people who like it, 742 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: who are willing to take on that risk. 743 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 6: I'm not that person. 744 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: There that was drive. Your draft is ined by the 745 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: all new hybrid Toyota Camra. Whatever your vibe, it's a 746 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: Camri vibe. Learn more dot com slash Camri. Uh. 747 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: You guys know what divisions you're in. I know you 748 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: said you just signed up Florida. 749 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 5: You know what that division you're in forgetting Sarah Marshall Baby, 750 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 5: the most underrated movie out there. 751 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: I'm out to Snow. 752 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: I quote that movie from London to the point where 753 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 5: people don't. 754 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 4: Even know that I'm quoting them. 755 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: Snow Yeah, Wow, a movie all three of us know 756 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: in can quote. 757 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: It's funny because like all the snow end getting a 758 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: spin off and get him to the Greek. 759 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 4: Which is all one of the funniest spin off movies ever. 760 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: I would say, when lifehand you with Jeffrey Stroke the 761 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 2: Furry Wall. 762 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: Uh. Speaking of which, we're gonna be watching back Draft 763 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: for the the cheat sheet in honor of Donald Donald 764 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: Sutherland also Donald Sterling in personal. 765 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: Show out about him too. 766 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't watched yet, anything to go check that. 767 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: It must be kind of interesting. 768 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: But in honor of Donald Sutherland's passing one of the 769 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: roles that I remember him most in uh in the 770 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: movie Backdraft, So that'll be part of the cheat cheat 771 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: plus some other nonsense that I'm sure we'll find across 772 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: the interwebs. 773 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: Uh, that will be involved as well. 774 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: But that'll do it for this edition of the NFL 775 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do good 776 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: and live well, and I guess we'll talk to you tomorrow.