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Speaker 1: will Conta. We got Taylor Lawan, we got industry plant

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Speaker 1: Josh Pate. We're gonna be just talking about Army Navy

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Speaker 1: this weekend. A lot of stuff to cover. The system

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Speaker 1: Josh Pate, thirty seven and forty. Your boy Willie see

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Should we get it? May be a little weird. Should

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Speaker 2: we give ourselves round on the pause or wait for

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Speaker 2: somebody and that's watching, Well, someone's gotta guys, seriously, thank

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Speaker 2: you guys. Really shouldn't have stop.

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't unnecessary, guys.

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Speaker 3: Incredible necessary, But since you guys clapped, you might as

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Speaker 3: well talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Was I hearing before the pod that uh, Pate was

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Speaker 1: just breaking down? Pate, Yeah, self scout with an IVY

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Speaker 1: in his arm, came.

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Speaker 2: Back in full help.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that the ivy was necessary masculine. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: So I'm sitting in the chair this morning because I

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Speaker 5: get the ivy. Truthfully, I don't even know what's in

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Speaker 5: that bag, but they put something in me every Wednesday

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Speaker 5: morning at seven am. So I have not watched the outcast.

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Speaker 5: All I've had is my mom told me it was good.

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Speaker 5: A few dudes online told me it sucked at which

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Speaker 5: we talked about off air. Maybe we can mention on

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Speaker 5: are if we have time later. And that's all I

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Speaker 5: knew about it. We got good feedback from the people

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Speaker 5: that matter at ESPN, though, and then it occurred to

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Speaker 5: me this morning to search for it, and it's available

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Speaker 5: on the ESPN app.

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Speaker 4: So I had the IV.

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Speaker 5: In my arm, which I just realized I still have

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Speaker 5: the mandate on my arms.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure that take.

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Speaker 4: Care of everything.

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Speaker 5: And I watched I watched the film. I thought we

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Speaker 5: really peaked in the second half as the game went

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Speaker 5: downhill quickly. So maybe the people did not see the

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Speaker 5: best versions of ourselves, but I thought it went really good.

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Speaker 5: You called Quevo mister Quavo several times, had to several

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Speaker 5: times special you want to be a little more formal.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: The boys were laughing at it because I gave him

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Speaker 1: and I just.

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Speaker 3: What's weird about that, too, is like you usually dap

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Speaker 3: everybody out. Hey, man, great to see you, and you

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Speaker 3: go like this, It's never it's never this.

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Speaker 5: After that early season incident up at ESPN though, with Hawk,

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Speaker 5: I think you've been a little trepidacious with the handshakes here. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you got no problem shacking my hand, checking Taylor's hand.

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Speaker 5: There were some hands though that you still look at

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Speaker 5: and you go, how do I HA?

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Speaker 2: Not mitches, not JP's.

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Speaker 1: Not Jazz.

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Speaker 4: I think we all know what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Not Clay's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought the first quarter first off, the

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Speaker 3: dry run. We've talked about it on the busting on Busted,

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Speaker 3: but like I was like more, I was very excited

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Speaker 3: like all of us together lifting this ship of like

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Speaker 3: being the quarterback and just going to play by play.

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Speaker 3: You can jump into any moment and give great insight.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is really gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun, Like the boys just kind of hanging out.

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Speaker 2: And then when the dry run happened.

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Speaker 1: Which, by the way, dry run caught me off guard,

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Speaker 1: No doubt they know we're gonna be doing a driver.

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Speaker 1: Once the monitors started going, I was like, what's happening here,

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Speaker 1: Josh going, isn't that the worst?

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Speaker 3: First couple of times you do something and things are

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when when will did his drive run and they

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, we remember we stocked into

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Speaker 2: the whole thing up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and credit to Willie Bompton Man. As soon as

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Speaker 3: the lights are on, they said, hey.

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Speaker 1: We're on. I had to go next play.

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Speaker 2: You crushed it. I had to go absolutely killed. It

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Speaker 4: And then the dry run.

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Speaker 5: To be clear, there's nothing scripted about the game except

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Speaker 5: the first five minutes before it kicks off, which is all.

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Speaker 5: We had to do a dry run, and the producers

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Speaker 5: and we are supposed to go in order, and they

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Speaker 5: got preset packages and we got it timed out when

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Speaker 5: the anthem's gonna happen, when the teams are going to

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Speaker 5: take the field, And you dropped this like forty five

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Speaker 4: And they come in our ears like, Taylor, that's great.

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Speaker 4: That has nothing to do with what we're talking about

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Speaker 4: right now. Queue it back up, start the try run.

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Speaker 3: So what's wild is I'm learning about this right now

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Speaker 3: because I never heard the producer say that.

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Speaker 2: Great points I wasn't hearing it either.

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Speaker 1: I was just I was hearing the monologue Taylor was

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Speaker 1: Just kind of chuckling to myself like I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we're probably supposed to have to get back

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Speaker 1: g Pot somewhere in here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, long boy man, long winded boy. And then

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Speaker 3: when it's like so loud and Josh, You're like, you

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Speaker 3: clearly look at one of us. One time you and

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Speaker 3: I made eye contact and you're talking, I can barely

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Speaker 3: hear you. And as you're speaking to me, Kaitlyn comes

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Speaker 3: hear you two. I'm just trying to read your lips

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Speaker 3: now and I just stare you for and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I got in my head most of that kills Hey,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I'm thinking of myself, Kaitlyn. This is

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Speaker 3: the worst time he's looking right at me. I'm supposed

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Speaker 3: to talk next year. I have no idea what he

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Speaker 3: be going to commercial in like ten seconds. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: just started talking, and I'm like, oh, ship, all right, I.

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Speaker 1: Hear hearing her talk over the year, knowing that we

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Speaker 5: You know what it is to do with a pro

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Speaker 5: you know what it lets you know, it lets you

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Speaker 5: know never sit at home and hate on an announcer

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Speaker 5: for getting a name wrong, or for tripping over a word,

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Speaker 5: or for occasionally, like mispronouncing the town they're in. Those

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Speaker 5: like a very, very roided up version of what we

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Speaker 4: We had minimum traffic in our ears.

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Speaker 5: If you're doing legit like play by play in the booth,

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Speaker 5: you got thirty seven different voices in your ear, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: if I pronounce a name wrong every now and then,

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Speaker 5: not the worst thing in the.

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Speaker 1: Work, wind, fight or flight the entire time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one time I'm breaking this is it.

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Speaker 1: I'm breaking down number three c J al and I'm

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Speaker 1: going on this huge rant and it was number zero.

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Speaker 1: Their d tackle talking about the guy talking about the

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Speaker 1: alpha the SEC correction hand up.

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Speaker 2: That is not CJ.

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Speaker 1: Allen.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get that a few times from Willie See

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Speaker 2: on this all.

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Speaker 4: Cast thought that was a great ownership.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 4: Don't wait for the quality control email Monday morning.

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Speaker 5: Just own it on air because you know everyone's yelling

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Speaker 5: at you on the TV anyway.

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Speaker 1: So this dude is an idiot, Well there he is.

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Speaker 2: He's calling himself an idiot. We're gonna hear it a

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Speaker 2: few more times, boys.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 5: Allen, really good player though, really good Who was your

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Speaker 5: favorite guest that we had?

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Speaker 6: What did you guys think about? Like Taylor, Josh, You

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Speaker 6: guys obviously were speaking with your inside voices. Will just

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Speaker 6: felt like he was screaming the whole time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Will was Will was the night before WrestleMania ninety three,

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Speaker 5: Will went full Ultimate Warrior.

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Speaker 4: I was really surprised. No face paint, that was all.

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Speaker 2: That was a little, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There was a part of me that started thinking about

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Speaker 1: it before the game, but I was like, let's not

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Speaker 1: let's not get too obnoxious.

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Speaker 5: We talked. We talked to the lower level, He talked

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Speaker 5: to the three hundreds. Yeah, he talked to the upper deck. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you're in every man's.

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Speaker 3: People in just in a crowded bar watching the game.

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Speaker 3: He's I want to make sure everyone.

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Speaker 1: Can hear Will.

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Speaker 5: Will's the Roman Emperor in the coliseum before technology exists. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I've just got to speak with my outdoor voice or

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Speaker 5: these people aren't going to hear me. I gotta yell

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Speaker 5: kill and it's got to echo around this entire building.

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Speaker 4: But PI he brought when.

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Speaker 2: We're in a commercial, right, no one's screaming.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that reminded me of you brought up Sean Alexander.

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Speaker 5: I remember we played here in ninety nine. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Middle of it.

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Speaker 2: Spikes was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Spikes, Yeah, I can't wait to get him on

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Speaker 2: He's a rock star. He's got things to do.

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Speaker 1: People see, he's gonna he appreciated. He's not like he's

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Speaker 2: No doubt, Spikes will be ready to go.

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Speaker 2: That's the main events.

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Speaker 3: The main event Miami Notre Dame. And you said I

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Speaker 1: I sit at it in twenty twenty five this season,

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Speaker 1: the college will playoff.

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Speaker 2: The system is broken?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, the process is broken or the system

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Speaker 4: And this is coming from an industry plant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't even know. I'm kind of nervous speaking

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Speaker 2: There's somebody in New Yorktown. What you say, Yeah, here

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Speaker 4: I'm saying the process is broken.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying the system can't be broken if it gave

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Speaker 5: G five teams.

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Speaker 4: That's its own separate thing.

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Speaker 5: G five thing. We all agree with that. If we

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Speaker 4: So obviously I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think the entire system is broken, but the process the

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame's rightfully irate about that. They opted out of.

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Speaker 4: If that makes any sense.

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Speaker 1: It makes a little bit of sense. But Notre Dame

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Speaker 4: Yep, we're up there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying by you should have been in.

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Speaker 1: We all knew BYU wasn't going to be in. But

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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is Notre Dame was sitting at nine.

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Speaker 5: Here explained it to you. I told you what they

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Speaker 4: I told you what was coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an insurance policy in case we got the doomsday

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Speaker 5: My viewpoint is Bama should have already been ahead of

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Speaker 4: But that's not what you should be doing with the ranking.

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Speaker 5: Your ranking should solely reflect the body of work not well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think should have been.

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Speaker 4: What was was Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: Was ahead of Miami going into the final week, neither

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Speaker 5: Well, the head to he was their last week and

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Speaker 1: we can't see through what they had to do in

446
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Speaker 1: the eleventh hour because the way it was set up

447
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Speaker 1: like Notre Dame was again number nine for a long

448
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,879
Speaker 1: period of time until they dropped a ten. We go

449
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Speaker 1: into conference championship weekend and everybody talks about should conference

450
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Speaker 1: championship games meet anything?

451
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Speaker 2: Should they not mean anything?

452
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Speaker 1: We saw two teams BYU and their championship game, Bama

453
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,959
Speaker 1: and their championship get whooped, and again the Committee went

454
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Speaker 1: in full protection mode on Bama and protected their ranking

455
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Speaker 1: at large because we were having the conversation the night before.

456
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Speaker 1: This is one where Notre Dame and Bama are now

457
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Speaker 1: side by side. They could easily flip back to where

458
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,240
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is now nine, because again they still never

459
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Speaker 1: explained why they put bam my head in the first place.

460
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Speaker 1: But we all knew the insurance policy. But now Alabama

461
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Speaker 1: sitting there at nine, they got whooped. They sit there

462
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Speaker 1: and talk about BYU their ranking didn't get protected out large.

463
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Speaker 1: I know they were never in the College wall playoffs.

464
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Speaker 1: I know they were never getting in unless they want,

465
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Speaker 1: but they still drop to get Miami right next to

466
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame and now on their feeding everybody that had

467
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Speaker 1: the head game, which is that's what they want everybody

468
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Speaker 1: eating at. But if Virginia wins, Miami's not getting Notre

469
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Speaker 1: Dame is in the college football playoffs, Virginia is getting in.

470
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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

471
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Speaker 2: That makes sense?

472
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Speaker 4: Two things? All right?

473
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Speaker 5: So you asked, what do you mean about the ACC tiebreakers?

474
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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna hit that in a second, because that

475
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,680
Speaker 5: would have fixed everything. That's simply young people are making

476
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Speaker 5: this argument, and people are saying, hey, why did Brigham

477
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 5: Young fall? But Alabama didn't fall because they look the same.

478
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Speaker 5: On Saturday, both of them are in conference championship games.

479
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Speaker 5: Both of them lose convincingly. Brigham Young drops what they

480
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Speaker 5: dropped one spot, two.

481
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Speaker 1: Spots, dropped enough to just ki Miami next.

482
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Speaker 5: Even if they dropped in one spot, they dropped further

483
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Speaker 5: than Alabama, Becausbama didn't drop a right. A couple of

484
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Speaker 5: things that if I wanted to play Devil's advocate, if

485
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Speaker 5: I was a deep plant, and I may be, what

486
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Speaker 5: I would say is one of them is a comfortable truth,

487
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Speaker 5: and that is Brigham Young winning got smoked by a

488
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Speaker 5: team that already smoked them before. Bama went and got

489
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Speaker 5: smoked by a team they beat in their own building

490
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Speaker 5: earlier in the season. So at least Bama's track record

491
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Speaker 5: has a win over Georgia this year. B why you

492
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,479
Speaker 5: never got close to Texas Tech. The second thing, this

493
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Speaker 5: is the uncomfortable truth, is what I told you last

494
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Speaker 5: week and the week before, and that is, whether people

495
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Speaker 5: want to admit it or not, the treatment of conferences

496
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Speaker 5: is conditional in college football. The Big Twelve is not

497
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Speaker 5: going to get the same respect the SEC does. The

498
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Speaker 5: Big Twelve is not going to get the same respect

499
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Speaker 5: the Big Ten does. And that's just the way it is.

500
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Speaker 5: You don't have to like it, but I'm telling you

501
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Speaker 5: that's why that happened. And then the third thing, the

502
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Speaker 5: ACC tiebreaker, which I keep glossing over because I think

503
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Speaker 5: people live in the weeds of this, but they don't.

504
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Speaker 5: If nothing else changed but the ACC fixed their tie breakers,

505
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Speaker 5: none of this would have happened.

506
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Speaker 2: And what was what needs to be fixed with the

507
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Speaker 2: AEC TIB breaks.

508
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Speaker 4: All they would need to do.

509
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Speaker 5: Everyone's first tie breakers had to head. So if you

510
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Speaker 5: and I were six and two in conference, and I

511
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 5: played you and I beat you, I get the tiebreaker.

512
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 5: That's that's universal. The second tiebreaker should be conference standings

513
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 5: based on the college football playoff rankings. So if we've

514
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Speaker 5: got a five way tie in the ACC, it doesn't

515
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Speaker 5: come down to what a sixth grade calculations equate to

516
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Speaker 5: or whatever like, it should be the college football playoff rankings.

517
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Speaker 5: And in that case, Miami would have gone to Charlotte

518
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Speaker 5: and they probably would have won convincingly. Miami would have

519
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Speaker 5: been the ACC's team and it would have been a

520
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Speaker 5: moot point. Bama would have been in only one G

521
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Speaker 5: five team would have been in. Notre Dame would have

522
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Speaker 5: been in, and Miami would have been in. Yeah, instead,

523
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Speaker 5: we got this because the ACC couldn't get out of

524
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Speaker 5: its own way to the point where a five loss

525
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Speaker 5: team ended up in their conference title game.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Virginia couldn't get the job done with the ACC.

527
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't have to, you wouldn't have the two.

528
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you wouldn't have those two G five And if

529
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Speaker 5: Virginia got your job done, there's not that much different

530
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Speaker 5: than virgin and a G five team like Virginia is

531
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Speaker 5: going to be a sixteen some odd point dog, whereas

532
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Speaker 5: James Madison's a twenty one point dog. Either way, there's

533
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 5: going to be a huge gap, Like there's gonna be

534
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 5: an undeserving team by universal standards in the playoff either way,

535
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Speaker 5: Whereas if Miami would have gone to Charlotte one, at

536
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 5: least you have a playoff caliber team. At least you

537
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 5: have a team loaded up with future Sunday guys, a

538
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 5: team that realistically could make noise. You don't say that

539
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 5: about Tulane, you don't say that about James Madison. Now,

540
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 5: if we could broach this for just a second, the

541
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Speaker 5: whole G five inclusion thing, I think a lot of

542
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Speaker 5: people make faulty arguments about why the G five shouldn't

543
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Speaker 5: be in the playoff. So you've got people who think

544
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Speaker 5: the G five should be in the playoff. So we'll

545
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Speaker 5: do this again. They're on the table here, they're not

546
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Speaker 5: part of this conversation. You already have your opinion. There

547
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Speaker 5: are those of us, are you, and yeah, you're definitely man,

548
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Speaker 5: You're mister ANTIG five.

549
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Speaker 2: So not I respect you.

550
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Speaker 5: You You desrise the very fiber of the being of

551
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Speaker 5: a player on a G five ord Michigan.

552
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Speaker 4: Yes, so I would.

553
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Speaker 1: Say road State to argue for Taylor when we were

554
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Speaker 1: first talking about right here, okay, well defending Taylor when

555
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Speaker 1: we were first talking about the G five teams on busting.

556
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: It's more so twenty twenty five watching the G five

557
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: teams knowing like none of these teams should be in

558
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Speaker 1: the college close, not with the way we're arguing about

559
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: all of these other teams that are on the bubble.

560
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Speaker 2: Yes, you are believe every G five school like remembers

561
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Speaker 2: Boise State, Oklahoma, Fiesta Bowl, AB State, Michigan.

562
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Speaker 3: Well okay, all right, I'm just I mean a State

563
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Speaker 3: Michigan as well, Gain And then they think, oh, we

564
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Speaker 3: could do all these things. But that's like, hey, bois

565
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Speaker 3: State that year in the Fiesta Bowl. I guess olomost

566
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Speaker 3: an outlier. If the College Will Playoff was structured at

567
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Speaker 3: twelve teams, I agree they should probably be.

568
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Speaker 2: They would probably be like seven Boise State making it

569
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Speaker 2: last year.

570
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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, okay, I could see this team coming

571
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 3: in being a little destructive or making games closely at

572
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: least competitive. But I don't think G five teams should

573
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Speaker 3: just get a bit in because it's fair, like we

574
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Speaker 3: all all have to be equal to making sure that

575
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Speaker 3: everyone is represented somehow, like college football has been.

576
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Speaker 2: These kids go from.

577
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 3: High school, they're one percenters, they get to go play football,

578
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Speaker 3: whether it's a big school, small school, whatever. When it

579
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Speaker 3: comes to the College Fool Playoff, I want the twelve

580
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: best teams that are going to be the best matchups

581
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: down to the wire games that can sit there and

582
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Speaker 3: be like who truly is the best team? Because the

583
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Speaker 3: only I keep bringing up Vanderbilt and Texas can be

584
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: in the conversation too. It's in like Notre Dame, like

585
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: they all should have a good argument to be in

586
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 3: the College Wall playoffs. We get it was never an

587
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: option because one G five team has to make it

588
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: and now because the ACC can hold, they're into the

589
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: bargain of being a power for conference, they two G five.

590
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Speaker 2: Teams have to get in.

591
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Speaker 4: Yep.

592
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 3: I have respect for both those teams, but I do

593
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Speaker 3: not think they should be in the College World playoffs right.

594
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Speaker 1: I think there's there's you see, yah, the system's broken,

595
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: systems broke.

596
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Speaker 3: But here the thing I love about this season, though,

597
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 3: is stuff like this has to happen for change to

598
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: take place because a lot of people. I've seen a

599
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: lot of people go, hey, we gotta go to six team,

600
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Speaker 3: we gotta go.

601
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Speaker 2: To twenty four.

602
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Speaker 3: It's like, if you keep kicking the can down the

603
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 3: road more and more teams. And a couple weeks ago

604
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: I said he, I was like, I kind of like

605
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Speaker 3: the idea of sixteen. I don't like the idea of

606
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: sixteen right now because the process, the timing, the calendar

607
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: has to change for the count for the playoff bracket

608
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 3: to be correct. Then we can go and look at

609
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: the sixteen, the twenty four whatever people want to do,

610
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: the playing games, those types of things. But if it's

611
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Speaker 3: not fixed at twelve, it's not going to be fixed

612
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Speaker 3: at sixteen because we're gonna have the same argument just

613
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Speaker 3: down the road.

614
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Speaker 4: So I agree with you. The three of us largely

615
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Speaker 4: agree on this G five stance.

616
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Speaker 5: But here's what I want to say to anyone out

617
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Speaker 5: there watching, because there are a lot of debates about this,

618
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Speaker 5: and people get themselves caught up in debates, and one

619
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Speaker 5: of the worst stances you can take about the G

620
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 5: five view is I don't think G five teams should

621
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Speaker 5: be in because they can't compete in the playoff. I

622
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Speaker 5: don't think JMU should be in because they're going to

623
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Speaker 5: get blown out by Oregon. It leaves this really, really

624
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: obvious hole in your theory.

625
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Speaker 4: And that is what happens.

626
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Speaker 5: If they go out there and it's a competitive game

627
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, your argument is shot.

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Speaker 4: That shouldn't be your argument.

629
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Speaker 5: Like what your argument should be is, I don't think

630
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Speaker 5: G five team should be in the playoff because here's

631
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 5: my argument. I don't think G five team should be

632
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Speaker 5: the plaoff because they don't meet the minimum baseline of

633
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 5: struggle during the regular season that it should take to

634
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Speaker 5: merit playoff inclusion. I was looking at the schedule last night.

635
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Speaker 5: I took JMU and I took Oklahoma, and I put

636
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Speaker 5: them next to each other. And I just looked at

637
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Speaker 5: our power ratings, they're going to be similar with everyone's

638
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 5: power ratings, like FanDuel would have roughly the same numbers.

639
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: JMU played no teams power rated top thirty. They played

640
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Speaker 5: one team power rated top fifty, and they lost to

641
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 5: them by fourteen points. That's Louisville. Outside of that, their

642
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 5: toughest opponents are. Their toughest opponent was Old Dominion, who's

643
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Speaker 5: number fifty two. That's their best win over number fifty two.

644
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 5: Oklahoma played eight teams power rated in the top thirty.

645
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 5: They're not playing the same sport, so I don't My

646
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Speaker 5: argument about the G five would be the same whether

647
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 5: JMU gets beat fifty to nothing or whether they legit

648
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: going upset organ That proves nothing to me because I

649
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 5: don't judge you based on what I think you would

650
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Speaker 5: be capable of. I judge you base what I think

651
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: you earned. And my very simple stance on G five

652
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: is the strength of schedule that they play does not

653
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: warrant inclusion into the playoff because you're not playing the

654
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 5: same caliber football. You're not playing the same caliber of opponent.

655
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Speaker 5: So like and the other thing is, if people want

656
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 5: to go back and point out the upsets in the past, dude,

657
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 5: the boiss of like the late two thousands, those teams

658
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: would murder current G five teams because you didn't have

659
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 5: the transfer portal and NIO. That works the way it

660
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Speaker 5: works right now. The way it works now is anything

661
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Speaker 5: that is like the slightest blinking light on these G

662
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: five rosters immediately gets posts. Yeah, by the big boys.

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Speaker 5: It happens with coaches too. We're watching both of these

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Speaker 5: teams in the playoff whose head coaches already took Power

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Speaker 5: four jobs. The players do the same thing, So it's

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Speaker 5: impossible for a G five program to ever start to

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Speaker 5: elevate to the level where they would be remotely comparable

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Speaker 5: to the big boys. So then people listen to that

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Speaker 5: and they stop listening really thirty seconds in, and they

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Speaker 5: just think, oh, man, you must hate the G five.

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Speaker 5: Why do you hate the little guy? Why do you

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Speaker 5: hate us having a seat at the table?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I just wish you had your own table that made

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Speaker 5: sense and it gave you enough to eat to where

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Speaker 5: if you really do get big enough, you take the

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Speaker 5: place of one of the weaker guys up at the

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Speaker 5: head table. Because we got plenty of weak chairs at

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Speaker 5: the head table. So if you want promotion and relegation

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Speaker 5: to where you're not permanently banished to table number two.

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Speaker 5: But we're also acknowledging there's a clear difference in Louisiana

682
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Speaker 5: State University and Louisiana Monroe University. That's the world I

683
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Speaker 5: would love to live in. It sounds so logical, and

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Speaker 5: then they just they beat it like a piniona right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for me and for G five's to even have

686
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Speaker 3: a conversation. To get in the playoff, it would have

687
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Speaker 3: to be like, you're twelve and oh.

688
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Speaker 4: It's obvious without an auto bid.

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Speaker 3: Yes you're you're twelve and oh and you're winning. You're

690
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Speaker 3: winning all your games by multiple time shows. And it's like,

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Speaker 3: to them it might be unfair, but based on like

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Speaker 3: the old dominion being their best win. As Jamie you

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Speaker 3: were talking about, yeah, being their best win. It's like

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Speaker 3: that's crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ol.

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Speaker 2: When someone says old.

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Speaker 3: Dominion to me, I think about a band, not a football,

698
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Speaker 3: maybe the freight line. It's like, that's nuts. And now

699
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Speaker 3: we got to deal with those two teams. The thing

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Speaker 3: I do love, though, is like now we get into

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Speaker 3: and I thought like one of your points was maybe

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Speaker 3: the best point is like, to get into collegeable playoff

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Speaker 3: you have, did we have a minimum ranking and.

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Speaker 4: Or a minimum struggle struggle?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like if I could be the top ranked

706
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Speaker 5: figure skater in the world and you could be number seven,

707
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Speaker 5: but if you actually have to go and do all

708
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Speaker 5: the flips and the triple axles and stuff, and I

709
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Speaker 5: just kind of skate around on a pond, it doesn't

710
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Speaker 5: really matter what people think I would be capable of.

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Speaker 5: He actually went and performed under pressure with judges and

712
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Speaker 5: people looking at him, and maybe the ice wasn't as

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Speaker 5: smooth because the little Zamboni machine didn't even clear it

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Speaker 5: off for you. You had to go out in the trenches

715
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Speaker 5: and you had to earn it. I'm just sitting over

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Speaker 5: here saying, well, think about what I could do. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter what you could do, right. That's why, like

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Speaker 5: I think it's it's the dumb slant of an argument

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Speaker 5: to just say, oh, I don't think James Madison should

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Speaker 5: be in cause they're going to go get killed. Like

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Speaker 5: with SMU last year, I thought SMU did belong in

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Speaker 5: the playoff because I thought they earned it through meeting

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Speaker 5: a minimum threshold of strength to schedule. Then they went

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Speaker 5: and got blown out by Penn State, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of people said, oh, that's proof they didn't belong.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's just proof they're not as good as Penn State. Yeah,

728
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Speaker 5: but they belonged in the playoff. Conversely, JMU could go

729
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Speaker 5: play Oregon Razor tight and it doesn't prove to me.

730
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Speaker 5: My argument's flawed because my argument was never about what

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Speaker 5: they're technically capable of doing in one four quarter game.

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Speaker 5: Because what I don't think they could do over the

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Speaker 5: span of twelve four quarter games is go to Iowa

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Speaker 5: and go to Penn State and face Indiana and do

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Speaker 5: what Oregon had to do.

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Speaker 4: That's what I don't think they could do.

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Speaker 2: We do the work well said, you said something earlier.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the SEC bias because you

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Speaker 1: earlier were talking about SEC Big twelve. Big twelve is

751
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Speaker 1: never going to be compared to the SEC Big twelves

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Speaker 1: are going to be comparison to the Big ten. But

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Speaker 1: also it's like we were on the All cast and

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Speaker 1: I sat there a couple times in that second half

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the camera and I'm like, putting

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame in Miami both in the playoff over Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody understands that the SEC does carry They

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Speaker 1: carry the bigger stick, they carry the deeper pockets, They

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Speaker 1: have the most depth as far as talent different rosters

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Speaker 1: and teams in the SEC. But that, to me, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we should just accept it when we

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Speaker 1: know that, hey, there is there, very much is SEC

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Speaker 1: bias coming into this equation because when they put Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame in Miami in front of the people, and all

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Speaker 1: we do is nit pick as much as we can

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Speaker 1: for whatever their resumes are. We talk about their Week

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Speaker 1: one matchup where Miami beat them by three points. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about how badly they beat teams who were inferior

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Speaker 1: to them. But then when Alabama gets in this situation,

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Speaker 1: they're getting whooped right there in the SEC Championship game,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking, well, what was Alabama doing in Week

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Speaker 1: one when Miami beat Notre Dame by three points? They

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Speaker 1: were getting mopped by Florida State. And if we're looking

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Speaker 1: at how are they performing late in the season against

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Speaker 1: inferior opponents. They beat South Carolina JP no disrespect. They

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Speaker 1: beat South Carolina by seven points. They had to hang

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Speaker 1: on to that. They went in they they didn't beat

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Speaker 1: LSU very badly when LSU had just fired their coach

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Speaker 1: and Bama was coming off with bye week, I believe.

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Speaker 1: And then they survive Auburn limp into the SEC Championship,

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Speaker 1: get whooped by a team that they had beat by

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Speaker 1: three points earlier in the year. But they got whooped

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Speaker 1: same way BYU, same way. We've seen ass whoopings happen,

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Speaker 1: So to me, I'm thinking, I feel like it's justified

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Speaker 1: when everybody's thinking, Yo, is Alabama a top team that

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Speaker 1: should be the collegewall playoff over these other teams that

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Speaker 1: we're arguing about on the bubble because we've seen them

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Speaker 1: over the last month and they're clearly wounded going into

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Speaker 1: this thing.

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Speaker 2: Do you mind if I ask one question before you go.

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Speaker 5: What I'm going to do over here? Why you ask

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Speaker 5: is I'm going to zoom the telescope out? Okay, because

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Speaker 5: I have context. You're not wrong.

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Speaker 4: I just have context to add to.

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Speaker 2: I'm with the telescope thing too.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't want to know if at Obama

797
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Speaker 3: did not play Georgia in the SEC Championship and we

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Speaker 3: didn't set the result that has wiped from our brain.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Alabama should have been in the playoff?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So if we're going to go into an SEC Championship

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Speaker 3: where there's two other teams that are in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: already that didn't earn the right to play in that game,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna three three excuse me, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: judge those teams. We're gonna judge the two teams that

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Speaker 3: have earned the right to play in a game for

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Speaker 3: a championship and we're gonna judge them so much that

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Speaker 3: they are now losing a chance to which is the

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Speaker 3: ultimate prize in the national championship. How is that fair

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Speaker 3: to Alabama because they can lean on eight They had

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Speaker 3: eight guys out, so I think three or four are

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Speaker 3: the best some of their best players on the team.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, to that, I agree, But that to me

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Speaker 1: is where it's like, the fact that they got protected

816
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Speaker 1: with their ninth ranking at large is what blows my

817
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Speaker 1: mind because again, they can still earn their way into

818
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Speaker 1: the playoff because you move them down to ten, they're

819
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Speaker 1: still in the playoff in that situation. And to me,

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Speaker 1: it's like, are these championship games, like what do they

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Speaker 1: even mean to everybody? Because if Bama wins, they all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're talking them getting the potential by

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Speaker 1: week they get to jump up so many slots, it's

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Speaker 1: a reward. It's like, okay, if they mean if the

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Speaker 1: championship teams mean nothing for the teams that lose that

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Speaker 1: are already positioned in the College Wabill Playoff, it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is a dumb argument, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, so Ohio State lost by three why should

829
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Speaker 1: they lose. They're at large ranking still being the number

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Speaker 1: one team, But I know that's just a flip. They're

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Speaker 1: playing for the one seed. Yeah, I'm just taking multiple

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Speaker 1: movement overall. Why are we moving teams? Why? Okay, b Y,

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Speaker 1: you got whooped again protecting they're at large ranking at eleven,

834
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Speaker 1: why do they have to get moved down.

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Speaker 3: If two teams play each other in a championship game

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Speaker 3: and the winner of that game got a buy that's

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Speaker 3: worth playing for.

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Speaker 5: Also, Alabama plays that game knowing, Hey, if we win it, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's what we're playing for. We're playing for a conference title,

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Speaker 5: and we're playing to jump up into the by Terrace Hill. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: if they lose it, even if they're still in it's

842
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: not like they got They didn't get punished because they

843
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: end up being one of the only teams in the

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Speaker 5: playoff that ended up having to play five games to

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Speaker 5: win a national title. Like from the end of the

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Speaker 5: regular season, you go play your conference title game, we'll

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Speaker 5: miss it.

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Speaker 4: A and M's not. Oklahoma's not. They're sitting at home.

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Speaker 5: So if you go playing Atlanta and you lose, it's

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Speaker 5: not like that game didn't happen, right, it's not like

851
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Speaker 5: the bumps and bruises didn't happen exactly. Then you don't

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Speaker 5: get a first round by so you got four more

853
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Speaker 5: to go. After that, you end up playing five games,

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Speaker 5: which is probably impossible for them to win a national title.

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Speaker 5: But go back to the telescope, if we zoom it

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Speaker 5: out a little bit, they did get smoked by Florida

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Speaker 5: State at the beginning of the year. They did get

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Speaker 5: smoked at the end of the year by Georgia. They

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Speaker 5: did look suspect on the road against South Carolina. They

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Speaker 5: did look they looked okay, like they covered against LSU.

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Speaker 5: It's just defense had to carry it diverdly. They did

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Speaker 5: have to hold on against Auburn. All that stuff happened,

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Speaker 5: But it's important to note that right before that, they

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Speaker 5: had that stretch where they had to play at Georgia

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Speaker 5: with one of the best wins in the season, going

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Speaker 5: on the road and winning in Athens, and then they

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Speaker 5: had to play Vanderbilt and beat them by double digits,

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Speaker 5: and then they had to go on the road before

869
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 5: Missouri was injured and their season was shot, and they

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Speaker 5: beat them on the road, and then they had to

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Speaker 5: come home and beat Tennessee. So that little four week

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Speaker 5: stretch that's more impressive than anything anyone went through all year,

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Speaker 5: I think provides a lot of context in terms of injury,

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Speaker 5: in terms of vulnerability down the stretch, for why Alabama

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Speaker 5: looked the way they did. And while everyone's asking, well,

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Speaker 5: what were you all doing while Notre Dame was busy

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Speaker 5: playing two top teams in the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 5: Apply that same logic when Notre Dame was playing that

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Speaker 5: like jelly middle of their season, what was Alabama doing?

880
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 5: Bama was in the meat of their schedule playing a

881
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: troism in a row. Instead of there's one here, then

882
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 5: a month later there's another one. They went boom boom,

883
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: boom boom, No bye, go on the road to Columbia

884
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 5: South Carolina, And like that's why I remember when we

885
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: wrote that game down and we were just talking about

886
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 5: get out of there by one point, get out of

887
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 5: there by any means necessary, because they're beat to death.

888
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 5: Get to the bye week. However, you can like, it

889
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 5: was just big for me that they won that game period,

890
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 5: having provided the context to what they had just gone through.

891
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: So you can apply like you'd apply that logic, but

892
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: to me, you gotta apply the whole logic, like you

893
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 5: gotta look at the whole picture. That's why I didn't

894
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 5: think it was unfair that they were in the top

895
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: ten nine whatever. You can argue they shouldn't have jumped

896
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: Notre Dame right before the final Sunday, But my counter

897
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: would be they already should have been ahead of Notre Dame,

898
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: so it should have been a moot point, which was

899
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: kind of my stants all along. I thought it was

900
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 5: dumb that they weren't ahead of Notre Dame. I thought

901
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: it was dumb that Miami wasn't already ahead of Notre Dame,

902
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 5: which provided a lot of the fireworks.

903
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: At the end.

904
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: But we end up arguing about like the merit of

905
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 5: teams when you ought to be arguing about how like

906
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: mind numbingly stupid the process of the committee was. Because

907
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: you find out, oh man, a lot of us actually

908
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: kind of agree. What are we yelling about. We're yelling

909
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 5: about the committee. That's what you're yelling about up Yeah.

910
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: And the way the committee breaks down the games were

911
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: going for four, if you know, being it is so

912
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: ridiculous when he could literally just use logic to explain

913
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: their answers and it's it's simple like Miami head to

914
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: head and common opponents were better than Notre Dame, regardless

915
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: as the beginning of the season, at the end of season,

916
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: whatever it was, Miami should be over them.

917
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: That's just what is.

918
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: They're more deserving regardless what they're better or not. If

919
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: you just say that, is Notre Dame really feeling this

920
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: big of a fit We're now they're like breaking all

921
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: ties with the ACC.

922
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: Now, you remember.

923
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 5: Going into Conference Champions of Saturday, when they jumped Alabama

924
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: above Notre Dame. I looked at it and I said, oh, well,

925
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: better late than never. You corrected your flaw. Then Hunter

926
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 5: y're Achek, the committee chair, came on camera and Rhese

927
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 5: Davis asked him why Alabama jumped Notre Dame, and that

928
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 5: dude started listing the reasons, and one of the things

929
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: he said was, well, you know, they jumped out to

930
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 5: a seventeen to nothing lead. Auburn came back to tie

931
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: the game, so they also blew a seventeen to nothing

932
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 5: to lead.

933
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: Well, they ran the ball better today.

934
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 5: Well, you know, they had a gutsy call on fourth

935
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 5: and two and I just sat there and I just went, oh, No,

936
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 5: I can't defend this he made They made a move

937
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: I agree with, and yet this sounds so bad. Yeah,

938
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to spend all my time criticizing this,

939
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: even though it correlates with a decision that I agree with.

940
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: It's the craziest thing that.

941
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's where it's like, if there's accountability

942
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: in the college world payoff committee, to see how they're

943
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: breaking all this stuff down, because again he sang all

944
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: that stuff publicly, making you know, making everybody else feel like.

945
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: Yo, we see through all of this bullshit.

946
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna need a better argument, an argument that you

947
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: provided with Alabama the Gaullt being being in the playoff,

948
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: and to me, it's like the logic of how that

949
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: year ended and everything else, that logic is like, where

950
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: is that logic when again, they could just move down

951
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: they're still in the playoff and they could just move

952
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: down a slot, but they couldn't do it because Virginia

953
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: couldn't take care of business for the conference of the

954
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: ACC So they needed to find a way. We got

955
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get to manipulate this.

956
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: Get these guys together. Hey, we value the head to

957
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: head game It's like that wasn't it. If Virginia wins,

958
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: Miami isn't in over Notre Dame. I can't believe this

959
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: is now?

960
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: Can I full it one more theory to you guys?

961
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 5: This is a very fifty thousand foot theory. So a

962
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 5: lot of people are saying that playoff expansion is the

963
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 5: way you fix all this. I of course disagree with that,

964
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: but let's remove the Notre Dame stuff for a second.

965
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 5: Think about Vandy, think about Texas, think about Brigham Young,

966
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 5: because those are teams that were just on the outside

967
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: looking at or last year it would have been South

968
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 5: Carolina and Alabama and Ole Miss. So last year people

969
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 5: were saying, we need to expand. These teams deserve a shot.

970
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 5: I disagreed. It is my belief that people being mad

971
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: at the end of the season isn't automatically evidence that

972
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: something's broken. I think that if you have a playoff

973
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: that's the proper size, you'll know it because there will

974
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: be anger at the end of a season because it

975
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 5: was exclusive to where not everybody could get in. Therefore,

976
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: some people were left outside the door banging on it.

977
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: But that just means there's still enough scarcity and that

978
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: valuable thing you have that it means something. If you

979
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: expand to the point where no one's mad, it means

980
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 5: you've got a playoff that's way too big.

981
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: That's how I feel about that.

982
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't disagree that twelve teams is the proper amount

983
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: for a playoff. I just think in twenty twenty five,

984
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: where we're currently at with this system, the system was

985
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: broken this year because of two G five teams being in,

986
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: and there was the squeeze out operation to get Notre

987
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Dame out when they led them to believe the entire time,

988
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: when all these rankings came out every Tuesday, that they

989
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: were going to be in the college football play You believe.

990
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 5: This happened to Notre Dame of all programs, because for

991
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: my entire life grown up in the South, I was

992
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 5: taught that the entire system was rigged in the favor

993
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: of Notre Dame. Yeah, and now we fast forward to

994
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 5: present day and Notre Dame's making the kind of argument

995
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 5: that like a Fresno State would have made in the past,

996
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 5: of man, you're boxing us out. The system's built just

997
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: rigged against us.

998
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. Notre Dame football, it.

999
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: Was the favorite child of rage against the.

1000
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: Machine South Bend, Indiana, who also.

1001
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: Notre Dame got a clause in there.

1002
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: What was it the MoU where it's like, if they're

1003
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: a ToxT year, next year they have an automatic bin.

1004
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 5: Lost Dellinger, man over Yahoo, was just licking that index finger,

1005
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 5: flipping through papers and realize that, and to his credit,

1006
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: he said, wait a second, no one's reported this, and

1007
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 5: it's just there, but it's in all that boring legal

1008
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: ease and you got to like push the readers way

1009
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 5: down on the tip of the nose to even read

1010
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: it in there. And he saw that and he reported it,

1011
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 5: and everyone was like, wait a second. So they're they're

1012
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: making this argument, they're like railing against the operation knowing

1013
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: this will never happen to them again, like mathematically or contractually,

1014
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: they're guaranteed it'll never happen again.

1015
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: Where did that come from? No one knew that. I

1016
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: had never heard that. Yeah before this past week, Yeah.

1017
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: You never heard of automatic I.

1018
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: Never heard that they had negotiated as part of agreeing

1019
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 5: to whatever current and present or future version of the

1020
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: playoff we're going to have that they're guaranteed if they're

1021
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: in the top twelve they get a they get a

1022
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 5: playoff spot, or if it expands to sixteen, like whatever

1023
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: the size of the playoff is, if they're in that

1024
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 5: number or higher, they get a spot in the playoff,

1025
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 5: which has a lot of people up in arms. Honestly,

1026
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: there's a very very minute chance that that ever comes

1027
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 5: into play. But ironically it would have come into play

1028
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 5: this year. So that but here's my counter. All right,

1029
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 5: So you're thinking based on that language, you're thinking, oh, man,

1030
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 5: if that was in place this year, then that means

1031
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: even though Miami was tenth, then Notre Dame was eleventh,

1032
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: Notre Dame would have still gotten in it. Well, if

1033
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: you believe the system is built against you, how do

1034
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: you not know the committee wouldn't have just bumped you

1035
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: down another spot, and they wouldn't have just bumped you

1036
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: down to thirteen if you believe that, Like, I don't

1037
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: know that the system's rigged against them. I think the

1038
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 5: system ironically favored them too much in the racegular season

1039
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 5: and had to correct itself, which is corrupt and flawed

1040
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: and stupid, but that's the way it happened. But I

1041
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 5: don't know that that just automatically gives me all the

1042
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: comfort in the world if I'm a Notre Dame fan.

1043
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: And an example of them being comforted is losing their

1044
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: first two games and still being in the top twenty five,

1045
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: that being like the first time in however many years

1046
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: something happened.

1047
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Right, Like, yeah, that that process it kind of did

1048
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: it to themselves. But I to me, it's like, Yo,

1049
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: if they would just come out and say the reality

1050
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: of the situation versus trying to make stuff up to

1051
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: where if you just look behind the curtain you can

1052
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: figure out what happened to me, I feel like that

1053
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: would that would play with more favor.

1054
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: From the public eye, you know what I mean.

1055
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: Like a few weeks ago when they kind of flipped

1056
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: Bama Notre Dame, they started to put insurance policies in place. Hey,

1057
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: b y, you could be collateral damage here if they

1058
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: get whooped. It's just more like if at any point

1059
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: that it came out and said, hey, we kind of

1060
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: mess this up, dude from the ums.

1061
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: Like Miami, we do value that.

1062
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1063
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: They It's like if we can.

1064
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: Get a mistake, if they talk like normally people, yeah

1065
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: we're sorry, we actually made a mistake. We actually did

1066
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: not put in the head to head or the pit

1067
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: game or any of that. Miami should be over over

1068
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: Notre Dame because of these reasons, because we made a mistake.

1069
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, we're probably all pissed off. We're like, oh,

1070
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: these guys made a mistakes. Who's to say is not

1071
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: going to happen again? But like, at least they're not

1072
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 3: hiding behind bullshit like a gutsy call or.

1073
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: Or to two got no other coach made a call

1074
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 5: to go for it on fourth. Okay, so just Ryan

1075
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 5: Grubb and Alabama, Hey, how about just saying this we

1076
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 5: changed our mind?

1077
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we could just say we changed.

1078
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 5: We're thirteen humans and as we continue to watch the games,

1079
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 5: we changed our mind.

1080
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, because every other person does. That is upset as

1081
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: people want to be. That are not the non Alabama

1082
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: fans out there who want to be upset about Alabama

1083
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: being in Imagine if Alabama lost where they did in

1084
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: the SEC Championship and they're out, now, what would take

1085
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 3: place in college football?

1086
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: I don't think we would have an SEC championship.

1087
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we'd have conference championships at all anymore.

1088
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 5: Not that they not, not that people care because if

1089
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: you're anti Alabama you probably don't care about the SEC Championship. Yeah,

1090
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 5: I'm just saying there's a lot of other collateral damage

1091
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: that comes along with that, And I don't really even

1092
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 5: know what it is as I say it. I just

1093
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: know it would have been a mess. It kind of

1094
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 5: would have been fun to watch, just purely like voyeuristically.

1095
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 5: You want to watch the world burn?

1096
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh god, this is crazy.

1097
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because I'm sitting there on the selection Sunday when

1098
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: I see Bama nine, I was like, man, I guess

1099
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Is it gonna be Notre Dame? Here?

1100
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Miami? And you're just kind of

1101
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: sitting there waiting, And then when you see the Miami

1102
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: want to come across, I'm like, oh shit, what is

1103
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: going to be?

1104
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 5: If I if I had surveillance footage of you as

1105
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 5: you were watching it, what would I have seen?

1106
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: You would I saw I'm sitting there, and I'm like,

1107
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: hang on, Sweeter, I just gotta see. Yes, I'll play

1108
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: hide and seek with you here in a second. I

1109
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: just got to see what happens here.

1110
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: With my So you have your hand on your child's forehead, Yeah.

1111
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: I push your back a little bit and I see

1112
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: it happen and.

1113
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: I go, oh shit, and Charles like what And I'm like,

1114
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: you have no idea what just happened?

1115
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 4: The world just changed?

1116
00:45:54,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sweeter, I need five minutes on my phone. Yeah yeah, yeah, dude.

1117
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: It's it's nuts in the way Notre Dame is handling this,

1118
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: like when they say we're not gonna play a ball game.

1119
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm personally of the opinion that the only thing that

1120
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: matters about Bowl games is the fifteen practices that you

1121
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: get playing the game and the gifts. But playing the game,

1122
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: there's so many guys that set out it's not gonna

1123
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: it's like, really a chance to get the scrimmage.

1124
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: It's an exhibition match now.

1125
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: But for some guys, some seniors, you're never going to

1126
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: play again.

1127
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: I don't disagree either with the cheerleaders, the band, all

1128
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: of that. For them to say, oh shit like that

1129
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: the last game, we didn't know it was our last game.

1130
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: We didn't take a moment to sit there and go,

1131
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: you know, kind of look around, be like, hey, it.

1132
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Was a fun ride. I have empathy for all of that.

1133
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it was kind of it was

1134
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: a weird move, Like I understand emotional move in the moment.

1135
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: This is what they're standing on this where they're going.

1136
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: It probably came more likely from the administration their positioning

1137
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: of it. They're going to get torch for it for

1138
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the time, especially knowing what we know

1139
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: with the MoU where they're they're in the they're in

1140
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: the spot that they want to be in from here

1141
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: on out, you know what I mean, Like, they're not

1142
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna they won't be in the spot again as long

1143
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: as they're in the Top twelve or however things get

1144
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: fixed within the process.

1145
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: And Clark being like, oh, you guys, you know not

1146
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: this book was like, no, we love football here.

1147
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 4: That's interesting.

1148
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: He's part of Big Conference.

1149
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: He's in on it.

1150
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: He's doing.

1151
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just reading off him.

1152
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: He had the text. No, yeah, it's it's tough.

1153
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: You know. I was telling the story yesterday when we

1154
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: were in the Big twelve championship, I believe in O

1155
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: nine and we lost that one second game to Texas

1156
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: when they kicked that field goal. They put the second

1157
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: back on the clock, they kicked the field goal. It

1158
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: was known that we were going to the Big ten,

1159
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, after that next year or whatever. So everybody

1160
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: in their mind thought it was like Big twelve is

1161
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: against US. I still this day believe Big twelve was

1162
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: against US, but both we losed a Big twelve championship.

1163
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: It's US in Texas. Texas wins, they went by that

1164
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: game winning field goal. They go on to play in

1165
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: the National Championship against Alabama. Well, the delegation for the

1166
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: Big twelve champion loser, like where we were positioning bowl

1167
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: games mattered a lot. It was the Fiesta Bowl got

1168
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: a Big twelve team, the was it, the Cotton Bowl,

1169
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: the Alamobile. I believe we got delegated all the way

1170
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: down or relegated all the way down to the Holiday Bowl,

1171
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: which everybody yeah, San Diego, which everybody was pissed off

1172
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: because again we're in our heads, we're the number two

1173
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: Big twelve team. All these other bowl games that are

1174
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: slotted for Big twelve that we get to get chosen with,

1175
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, the Nebraska fan base. So we were playing,

1176
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: we had in domicate Sue Heisman, we had like the

1177
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: number one scoring defense in the country, and we get

1178
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: pushed all the way down to the Holiday Bowl. Bo

1179
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: comes in the team room when all this got decided

1180
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: and asked everybody out right, do you guys even want

1181
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: to play in this fucking game? Like, I'll tell you

1182
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: right now, I'll burn the whole thing down if you

1183
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: guys want to.

1184
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: Guys stood up.

1185
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: We decided obviously to play the game whooped Arizona that year,

1186
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: But it was a conversation in that moment to give

1187
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: people an inside look at when you feel like you

1188
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: just get wronged in a situation. In that moment of time,

1189
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: which I'm sure again Notre Dame, there was no explanation,

1190
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: no nothing. It's like, yeah, we've been sitting in the

1191
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: top ten the entire since the college football rings has

1192
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: come out, and now all of a sudden, you're just

1193
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: throwing this in here at us, in our face. I'm

1194
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: sure they were all in the team room and everything else,

1195
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: very emotional, but yeah, I remember Bo comes into you

1196
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: guys weren't even playing this fucking game and saying like

1197
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: I will burn this place. Don't want too, probably about

1198
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes because it was emotional. We just, man, we

1199
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: felt like they put the second back on this when

1200
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: reviews like it wasn't like a reviewable play to go

1201
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: and put a second back on. They put it back on.

1202
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: They kicked the field, go and win. You felt like

1203
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: you won the Big twelve championship. But it was like

1204
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: a very emotional next week and then you know, bowl

1205
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: games get picked and everything else, and it was it

1206
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: was very tense, very tight, like everybody was pretty angry.

1207
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: How we felt like we got treated, getting pushed down

1208
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: to the Holiday Bowl back when bowl games were a

1209
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: big time thing.

1210
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: That was big time before people had opted out too.

1211
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 5: So you fast forward fifteen sixteen years. I could especially

1212
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: understand at Notre Dame now that it's normal to opt

1213
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: out of bowls. Don't take bowls seriously, You think you

1214
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: just got shafted out of a playoff spot. Yeah, me

1215
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 5: walking in the default mechanism is yeah, we're done. We're

1216
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 5: not participating in this. That's why I said. And a

1217
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 5: million people ask me, what do you think about Notre

1218
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 5: Dame opting out of a bowl game? Well, I personally

1219
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: hate the concept, but I'm not going to rail against

1220
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: them and that, like I don't understand.

1221
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: It's the world we live. Yeah, Like I totally get

1222
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 4: where their mind is.

1223
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: Do you think Jerremala Love is gonna play that game?

1224
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: No?

1225
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: No shot, No, you're thinking about than that ultra that

1226
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 3: Ultra then bragging rights. Uh, mikel Ultra Superior is worth

1227
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: playing for and we're playing for a Michelobultra. We've started

1228
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: this row pay percisors and right now I'm leading the

1229
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: series eight to six.

1230
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: At one point I was down two. This would be

1231
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: catastrophic for you if you lose this.

1232
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: One possibly rob scissors shoot.

1233
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: Superior is worth playing for nowadays?

1234
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: Seven down one? Yeah, down one down one.

1235
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: Back to the episode Heisman candidate, By the way, should

1236
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 3: we talk about our heidsman?

1237
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 6: I have a quick question about will you tweeted about

1238
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 6: it yesterday? And I don't know, Josh, if you can

1239
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 6: give more insight about it, the whole Utah thing going

1240
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 6: with that?

1241
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I said, what could go wrong where it

1242
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: seems like Cana.

1243
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Utah bought a p or some private equity company

1244
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: bought a piece of Utahs that.

1245
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 4: It's essentially, it's essentially.

1246
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: It's the Big ten correct.

1247
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: As as a whole, the Big ten as a whole.

1248
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an individual athletic department basically taking an

1249
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 5: effusion of private equity money.

1250
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Over five hundred million.

1251
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's no small it's no small figure. It is

1252
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 5: it's you could see it coming from a long way away.

1253
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 5: College football has been horrifically financially mismanaged for a long time.

1254
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 5: It's no different than the federal government. It's just college

1255
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 5: football administrators who have been loosely spending money because it's

1256
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: not their money. When you're spending someone else's money, you

1257
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: don't really have proper incentive to be frugal with it.

1258
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 5: And so a lot of different places have dug themselves

1259
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 5: in holes. And then all of a sudden, you have

1260
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: on this other set of rails over here congruent to

1261
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 5: your You've got the college football train at large, which

1262
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 5: has been mismanaged, and now you didn't really have a

1263
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 5: plan when all of a sudden, you have to pay

1264
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: the players to pay the players, so you had this

1265
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 5: huge added operating expense that you can't afford. Because you

1266
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 5: never positioned yourself. You kept on spending every dime you made.

1267
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 5: That's why all the facilities look like they do. That's

1268
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 5: why coaches make ten fifteen million dollars a year. The

1269
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 5: buyouts are huge because you couldn't afford to make the

1270
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 5: revenue and sit on it. Because if you were sitting

1271
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 5: on a mountain of money, it was going to be

1272
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 5: really bad optics because the public was going to look

1273
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 5: at it and say, wait a second, you're hoarding hundreds

1274
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 5: of millions of dollars while also saying you can't afford

1275
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 5: to pay the players. So they kept spending the money

1276
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 5: as it came in the door and spending on all

1277
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 5: sorts of ridiculous things. So now they're in a bind,

1278
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: not just Utah. Utah just happens to be the first

1279
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 5: one to do it, and they're looking into the future

1280
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 5: and they're looking at projections and saying, yeah, we're just

1281
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 5: headed even more in the red. We need help. Private

1282
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 5: equity comes in and they help. Now, most college football

1283
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 5: fans won't be affected by this. They'll see low goes

1284
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 5: on the jerseys, they'll see a branding on the fields,

1285
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 5: and that's whatever. The real question I have becomes, who's

1286
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 5: making decisions for Utah Athletics now or if it comes

1287
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: time to fire a coach and hire a new coach,

1288
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 5: Who's making the call on firing coach and hiring the coach.

1289
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 5: Because we're really in the interest of what's best for business,

1290
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 5: right and if it's just your business, that's your business.

1291
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 5: But all of a sudden, if someone's bought a stake

1292
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 5: in Utah football or Utah Athletics. They want to return

1293
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 5: on their investment. And they want to say because they're

1294
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 5: paying for a seat at the table, which.

1295
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Is what essentially is happening with Utah because where we're at,

1296
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: it's like, say, you have this five hundred million dollars

1297
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: in a private equity, Like you have all this money,

1298
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: you want to back it, Like we've been seeing, whether

1299
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: it's Cody Campbell down at Texas Tech, whatever it is.

1300
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: The thought was, we'll donate to the nil collective, like

1301
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: make a donation. They got a lot of money backing them.

1302
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: What's happened at Utah is they've stood up another LLC

1303
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: to where now this five hundred million this private equity

1304
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: company has bought like a minority stake in the team,

1305
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: to where they will be decision makers for making money.

1306
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Are they going to be involved with making these big

1307
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: decisions now we'll never see there's like a new Yeah,

1308
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: there's like a new master who's now at the seat

1309
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: of the table with all this money coming in.

1310
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: They now own a part of Utah Athletics.

1311
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: They're not like donating like, hey, our group wants to

1312
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: make our football team better. Here's a shitload of money.

1313
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: Now they are minority owners, like in Utah football, say.

1314
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm just getting that small breakdown. It feels like there's

1315
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 2: no good outcome.

1316
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: You saw Dillingham yesterday, he was doing I saw him

1317
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: in an interview and they're kind of asking about it.

1318
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: He's like, dude, it's a messman. As far as financials,

1319
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: as far as money, entertainment, the media that is booming,

1320
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: it's going to continue to boom, like very popular. But

1321
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: as far as all the structures and processes in college football,

1322
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: he's like, it's an absolute messman. So I He's like,

1323
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: we'll handle it the way we handle each new thing

1324
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: that comes in.

1325
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: He's like, but it's a mess man.

1326
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: If you're looking at like a Utah and ASU, these

1327
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: these brands of college football that their logo doesn't have

1328
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: like a bunch of people that have left made a

1329
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: billion dollars or doing a lot of money an il

1330
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: to be competitive.

1331
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: What are the choices they have than to take on

1332
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: a private equity career.

1333
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll tell you you need to collectively bargain with

1334
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 5: the athletes.

1335
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 4: Athletes dot org.

1336
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I sound like a spokesperson right now. But

1337
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 5: it just so happens that as we're recording, it's Tuesday, right,

1338
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 5: it's Wednesday.

1339
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 4: Two days ago, two days ago out in Las Vegas.

1340
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: They go ahead, ground. I just wanted to know he's

1341
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: going to make a move. As soon as you open

1342
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: it up. I started to get flashed back.

1343
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 5: I just look at it. I just follow your eyes

1344
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 5: and just go down there. Man, he's looking at this

1345
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 5: crotch again. That must be you know, but God, players

1346
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 5: dot Org, You've got to make yourself financially viable in

1347
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 5: the future. Right now such a train wreck because people

1348
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: are trying to figure every which way around collectively bargaining

1349
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 5: with athletes. I'm not taking a stance on this. I'm

1350
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 5: kind of old school in it myself. I'm just saying,

1351
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 5: you've tried the congressional approach over and over again. Just

1352
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 5: last week, the Score Act fell in its face in

1353
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 5: Congress again, and that is basically to dumb that down,

1354
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 5: where just normal people understand what's happening here. They really

1355
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 5: want a way for Congress to step in to make

1356
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 5: laws that say, all right, college football, you're free to

1357
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 5: govern yourself.

1358
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: Now.

1359
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: You can limit transfer, portal movement, you can limit what

1360
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 5: nil is you can do all of that because we're

1361
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 5: giving you the power. Legally, well, that keeps falling on

1362
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: its face, so that's never going to pass the legal

1363
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 5: barometer that it needs to to be signed into law.

1364
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 4: At least that looked that way.

1365
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 5: The other option is to collectively bargain with the players

1366
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 5: and to centralize that. Take it out of the hands

1367
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: of the teams and the leagues and centralize it. This

1368
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: is very very clearly gaining traction. Athletic directors are on

1369
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 5: board with it, University presidents are on board with it.

1370
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: Some of the most influential voices within those two realms

1371
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 5: are on board with it. And I really think over

1372
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 5: the next six to twelve months, you're going to see

1373
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 5: traction on this and then where I'm interested because that

1374
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 5: stuff is boring. What I'm interested in down the road

1375
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 5: is do we ever get to a place where that

1376
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 5: same principle is applied to media deals. None of the

1377
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 5: networks really want that, none of the leagues really want that,

1378
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: but collectively it would make everyone a lot more money.

1379
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: If college football's media rights structure reflected that of the NFL.

1380
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 5: There is no AFC East TV package. There is just

1381
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 5: the NFL, the AFC, and the NFC. But underneath the

1382
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 5: NFL's umbrella, that is a media rights deal that is

1383
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 5: sold by the NFL, and NBC's got a piece, and

1384
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: Fox has got a piece, and CBS has got a piece,

1385
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 5: and the league kind of dictates.

1386
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: Here's the players got a piece.

1387
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 5: Yes, that I think is the direction we're headed in

1388
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 5: college football. It's just we're like a pinball going through

1389
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 5: the machine right now to get there. It's not just

1390
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 5: let's flow down the river out into the ocean. It's

1391
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: we're a pinball and we're going all over the place.

1392
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: So if that takes place, then that happens, and there's

1393
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: a CBA for college football and it becomes just like, oh,

1394
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: this is a big umbrella company. What happens is private

1395
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: equity companies that have bought pieces.

1396
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1397
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm not smart enough in that world

1398
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: to know. I just know that we need that's what

1399
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 5: we need.

1400
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: We need your life that kept from the Live Show Man.

1401
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: Your dad and I was, I was like.

1402
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: Nervous each other's legs. You want to take this on?

1403
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: Nope, I'll tell you what, man, I I like. I

1404
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: love that the players are getting paid. But I also

1405
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: we're in such a d we're in such dangerous territory,

1406
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: like even for the athletes too, with all this money

1407
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: that comes in and everything else happened, and just man,

1408
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: when when we were in high school, the whole thought

1409
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: process was, I'm just saying, like, think about the commitment,

1410
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: the dedication and work ethic everything just to get the

1411
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to get a scholarship on thinking that you're that's

1412
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: the way out to get to the NFL and all

1413
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: of the foundational values and cultural things that you have

1414
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: to establish as a high schooler. But you're very raw

1415
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: as a high schooler learning all of these values, learning

1416
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: all of these traits and characteristic and then they get

1417
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: molded and developed and hardened in college to where whenever

1418
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: those first big paychecks come in in the NFL, it

1419
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: can get guys off the tracks. Like obviously you see

1420
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: guys fall off, but at least you're equipped. I know

1421
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: when the money started coming in For myself, It's like

1422
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys know in their head they have

1423
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: to stay very principled in their approach and commitment all

1424
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: year round to keep getting and keep getting it, tapping

1425
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: into this well and keep getting paid and the life

1426
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: and all the bells and whistles that come with it.

1427
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: Now it's like all that's just getting chopped when all

1428
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: this money sinking into these seventeen eighteen year old kids

1429
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: when they're gone, because now it's not even about this

1430
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: work ethic, the sickening, gritty approach when you're in high school.

1431
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: It's about picking up your phone, looking at how many

1432
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: likes you have on Instagram, looking at what deals your

1433
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: agent might begin to you. Because now you have an

1434
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: agent who's telling you all these things, you might not

1435
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: have to worry about certain principal things that you're established in,

1436
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: whether there's workout routines and everything else, because it's like,

1437
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: who's going to pay me the most money? Like it

1438
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: used to be, you owe the process everything, and the

1439
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: process owes you nothing in return. Now these kids are

1440
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: getting paid for a process they haven't even established going

1441
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: into college football, and it's just I hate it for

1442
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: the athletes because the development that happens that isn't going

1443
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: to be taken serious as much near as much anymore

1444
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: at the college level is what bothers me about the

1445
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: whole thing. Because I do enjoy that they're getting paid.

1446
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: It's what we wanted. But there's all this how it's

1447
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: getting pushed all the way down. Now we're talking about

1448
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: college is going to be looking like the NFL. That's

1449
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: a big fix because we need all this regulation to

1450
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: come in and help everybody out with all the money

1451
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: floating around everywhere. But in doing that, it just the

1452
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: way it massages the mentality of these college kids. Now

1453
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: at the high school level, I'm like, fuck.

1454
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 5: But in your CBA, let's say it structured properly. Because

1455
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 5: I had long conversations about this last week, because I

1456
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 5: have those concerns as well. Most people who love college

1457
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 5: football have those concerns. You worry about the detriment of

1458
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 5: the product when sixteen and seventeen year old kids already

1459
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 5: bank high six low seven figures coming in like it

1460
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 5: adversely affects the compass, the north star of motivation, of process,

1461
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 5: oriented of drive of everything. All right, So think about this,

1462
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 5: all right, if we have a CBA in college, your

1463
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 5: player reps are probably not going to be freshmen. They're

1464
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 5: going to be upperclassmen. Those upper classmen are in the

1465
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 5: position to be a player rep, probably because they've proven

1466
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 5: themselves and paid the price. If you have a CBA

1467
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 5: in college football, I think you have a payscale that's

1468
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 5: very much correlated to like a rookie pay scale versus

1469
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 5: a second contract third contract in the NFL. Not apples

1470
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 5: to apples, but very similar to where if I'm a

1471
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 5: seventeen year old kid, If we have a CBA, that

1472
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 5: also means that we enter into a world where there

1473
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 5: are enforceable laws within IL, which means it's not just

1474
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 5: wild West pay for play anymore, like, yeah, you're gonna

1475
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 5: make money and it's been collectively bargained. But you know,

1476
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 5: if you're a freshman committing to Nebraska, you're not making

1477
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 5: nearly as much as you're gonna make if you succeed

1478
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 5: and you play, and then you're still a sophomore on

1479
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: that roster, and then you're a junior, and then there's

1480
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 5: this huge bonus that kicks in third and fourth years

1481
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 5: on the same roster because you prove yourself and you're

1482
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 5: under a collectively bargained umbrella where you know the big

1483
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 5: payoff is down the road, where you have all the

1484
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 5: incentive in the world to keep chasing instead of already

1485
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 5: having a gigantic bag in your lap. The moment you

1486
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 5: step on campus.

1487
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the way you broke that down

1488
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: because I sit there and I'm like, we're hearing guys

1489
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: close to the program.

1490
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: Just be like, man, this program.

1491
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: This dude's dumb for signing a two year deal within

1492
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: IL And I'm just thinking, Jesus Christ, I cannot believe

1493
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: we are in this world.

1494
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: There's two hugs that out there though, Like, well, you're

1495
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: bringing down all the things I agree with it, Like

1496
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: the process owes you nothing, all the work ethic if

1497
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,479
Speaker 3: you're being coached hard by your coaches, like buy into

1498
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: a program, going to a school because that's the school

1499
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: you want to be at and they just hosted you

1500
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 3: the best, and you're like, this is where I can

1501
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: think my next four to five years. Like that is

1502
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: clearly missed.

1503
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: But I can't sit.

1504
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: Back and not just like for these kids if we're

1505
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: in these positions, like yeah, you want to gain the

1506
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: system as much as possible, to put as much money

1507
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: in your pocket as possible, signing a one year deal

1508
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: as opposed to a two year deal, Like I can't

1509
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: get mad at a player for doing those things with

1510
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 3: the CBA, Like I would love for a CBA to

1511
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: take place because then there's an umbrella. There's only a

1512
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: certain amount of money you can spend. Each team can

1513
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: spend on their players. And I love the idea of

1514
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: like you have freshmans like a rookie, and the more

1515
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: you work and the better you do and the more

1516
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: accolades you have, the.

1517
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: More you'll get paid.

1518
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: Because it's just on a way simpler level from being

1519
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: able to play in the NFL and go to the

1520
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: lunch room and sit there in the morning and Georgia

1521
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: and Alabama had to play, and I have five Georgia

1522
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: teammates and three Alabama teammates and they're in their lunchroom

1523
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: arguing about their team. They're loved there for their team.

1524
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't see that in the next four or five

1525
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: years if it continues the same way, staying that way

1526
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: in that lunch room where it's like kids have like

1527
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: absolute pride and where they played at and they're like

1528
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: like Nebraska, like no one's.

1529
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: Gonna have that anymore.

1530
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: And that's where like, that's where college football I think

1531
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: is at its best because in a unique way, like

1532
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: when people gamble, it's like they're only going to want

1533
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: a gamble on their team for the most part because

1534
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: they're so invested in love with that team.

1535
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: When you played for the Tennessee Titans, who is your employer.

1536
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: The Titans?

1537
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 4: Was the NFL your employer or was it the Titans

1538
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 4: your employer?

1539
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: The Titans were my employer.

1540
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: So in this world, I don't think that's the way

1541
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 5: it'll be structured. I don't think you'll be employed by

1542
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 5: ole miss or the SEC.

1543
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: I think you'll be employed.

1544
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 5: By filling the blank name of whatever entity they form.

1545
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 5: And that is where the authority will be. But that's

1546
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 5: also where the risk will be. That's where the finances

1547
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 5: are handled. That's where private equity goes. By the way,

1548
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: in case you're wondering, like to answer your question, instead

1549
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 5: of trying to glom onto an individual athletic department, private

1550
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 5: equity will go to whatever that entity is, and that's

1551
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 5: where that cash infusion will happen and they'll be able

1552
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 5: to afford the operating costs. And at that point, University

1553
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 5: of Georgia, University of Nebraska, University of Arizona, you guys

1554
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 5: are good. We're handling it. But here are the rules

1555
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 5: you're going to abide by, and here's the amount of

1556
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 5: money you can afford. To pay your players handle your

1557
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 5: salary cap accordingly. By the way, this doesn't get rid

1558
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 5: of nil, It just repurposes nil for what it was

1559
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 5: supposed to be, which is the same way it is

1560
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 5: in the NFL, which is Pat Mahomes as a superstar.

1561
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 5: So he goes out and gets all the endorsement deals

1562
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 5: he wants. What's not happening is some guy who got

1563
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 5: rich beyond his wildest dreams, who happens to be a

1564
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs fan went to Pat Mahomes and free

1565
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 5: agency and said, I'm going to pay you thirty million

1566
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 5: dollars to come and play for us, because that's a

1567
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 5: competitive disadvantage, whether you think is fair or not or

1568
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 5: should be. Well, if you live in the world of

1569
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 5: the NFL, you're going to operate by their rules. And

1570
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: if you live in this world in the future, if

1571
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 5: it's collectively bargained that means laws can be enforced, nil

1572
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 5: is not going to be what it is right now.

1573
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: So guys will still make nil money, but it'll be

1574
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 5: guys who legit deserve to make nil money, and most

1575
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 5: guys will make their money based off of, for lack

1576
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 5: of a better term, their salary. I think we're very,

1577
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 5: very much closer to that than people realize.

1578
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: It would mean there's a lot.

1579
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 5: Of movement happening on that front this week as we speak,

1580
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 5: there's a lot of movement happening.

1581
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: Need the urgency, Need the urgency.

1582
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I know that you're there's a lot

1583
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: of things that we want to fix. There is also

1584
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 3: the fan in me of college football where it's at

1585
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: right now, where there's gonna be so many documentaries with

1586
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: the last four or five years. Yeah, I'm kind of

1587
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: just sitting here like I'm really enjoying watching all these

1588
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: things unfolding, all the chaos.

1589
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: Yep, it's just hey, fix the a SEC tie break.

1590
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: There, you go, fix the that was the butterfly?

1591
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 3: Good, let's everything everything, Navy, Do we want to talk

1592
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: about the brackets?

1593
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: Do we actually want to do that?

1594
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: Because it's really comes down to we're going to talk

1595
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: about all these games on future episodes.

1596
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: I think.

1597
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: I'm not going to take too Lane to win at all.

1598
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 5: So that's a spoiler, like that's a tease and I'm

1599
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 5: not going to take Jmu to win it all. I

1600
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 5: think Miami A and m is the best game of

1601
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 5: the first round.

1602
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: Notre Dame beats both, then.

1603
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 4: I think the difference. Can I just say one more,

1604
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 4: Let's let's play who does notre Dame.

1605
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: Let's play the game who does notre Dame beat? We'll

1606
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: start with.

1607
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 5: Speak about Joe does not think so they probably give

1608
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 5: him a good fight.

1609
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: Probably a good fight. James Madison was the whole president man.

1610
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1611
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I look at this bracket, the two teams

1612
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: that I'm most excited to see is Ole Miss and

1613
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 3: Texas ole.

1614
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: Miss in Texas Tech. Y.

1615
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Ole Miss because of all this

1616
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: stuff that took place with Lane Kiff and now the

1617
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: coaches are going back to Ole Miss to coaching those games,

1618
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: but Lang Kiffin is staying at l s U and

1619
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: then Texas Tech. We've had so much conversation on the

1620
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 3: show about how the Big twelve is not as respect

1621
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: as much as the Big ten or the SEC and

1622
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 3: Joey McGuire being able to assemble a team that's, you know,

1623
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: more expensive than anybody else and for them to play

1624
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: the way they have to get How good are they

1625
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: really when we go against these Big ten and the

1626
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: SEC teams. Yeah, I'm excited to see how they play

1627
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 3: to find out against I tuned up, pissed off Oregon

1628
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: team that remembers this month very well from very well,

1629
01:07:59,200 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: and they're going to get it.

1630
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: Two game with JMU tough to beat ole Daan Lanning.

1631
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 5: Can I confide in you guys, Lanning's not watching because

1632
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 5: he doesn't have a game this week, so we Lanny

1633
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 5: won't watch this, So this is going to be some

1634
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 5: big time rat poison. No one is set up better

1635
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 5: than Oregon here. I would rather have Oregon's spot in

1636
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 5: this bracket than anyone else's. They get the easiest first

1637
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 5: round matchup at home. They then get teed up to

1638
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 5: go play Texas Tech, which out of the other three

1639
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 5: teams in the semi final or in the quarterfinal. From

1640
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 5: a roster standpoint, they match up the best against probably,

1641
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 5: but look at the way it advances. Think about talent rosters,

1642
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 5: Think about who athletically could match Oregon. The three that

1643
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 5: I would circle the most are on the other side

1644
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 5: of the bracket, Miami A and m Georgia, Ohio State

1645
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 5: four of them. Four of them are on the other

1646
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 5: side of the bracket, and the soonest you would meet

1647
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 5: them as in the national title game. The most you'll

1648
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 5: have to defeat is one of them in the national

1649
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 5: title game, Oregon. I hope they don't embarrass me because

1650
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 5: I'm sky high on Oregon.

1651
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 2: I am too and potential reimagine.

1652
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 3: I know it's like we said hard to beat a

1653
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 3: team twice when we saw in the SEC championship.

1654
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: But let's just be real.

1655
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 5: You already know what Kurt Signetti said about Dan Lanning

1656
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 5: and his family the first time around. If they beat

1657
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 5: them again, I don't want to get ahead of myself.

1658
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 4: I know what I am.

1659
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: If they beat them again in a semi final, there's

1660
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 5: no limit to what that guy could text you.

1661
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not man and we hate that.

1662
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't want college football to be like that.

1663
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 5: That's not what we want this game to be.

1664
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: No Cincinnati being Oregon again, Like, does Dan Lanning continue

1665
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 3: to coach?

1666
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 4: Say that again?

1667
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 5: Because of the sound bite we cut down the road

1668
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 5: is going to be great and you said Cincinnati say

1669
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 5: Indiana sorry?

1670
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: If Indiana beats Oregon again, does Dan Lanning continue to coach?

1671
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: That's something you If Bignetty beats Lanning again, right, does

1672
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: Lanning have to think his wife.

1673
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 4: I thought we were gonna leave it unspokeus.

1674
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: I thought we were, and you had. She's a nice lady,

1675
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: and we know about Dan's game with the card, the

1676
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: whole thing.

1677
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, so I would hate to see a man

1678
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: like Dan Lanning never coach again if he loses Indiana.

1679
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: Have you got winning at all?

1680
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: Had? Very much? Very much?

1681
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, so I picked free season.

1682
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 3: Am I sticking with Oregon? I guess you'll find out later.

1683
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 4: Wow, do we know, Clump? Where these where these next

1684
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 4: round games are going to be?

1685
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 6: Like?

1686
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 5: Where would Indiana and the winner of Oklahoma Bama be?

1687
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 5: Is that Pasadena? Where would Oregon play Texas Tech? Where

1688
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 5: will the rematch of Ole Miss and Georgia take place?

1689
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 4: All right?

1690
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana, Indiana?

1691
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 5: That's in Pasadena, Okay.

1692
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: In Texas.

1693
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: Georgia is playing New.

1694
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: Orleans Sugar Bowl.

1695
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 5: So Oregon, if they go on to play in the

1696
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 5: National Championship, we'll play in hard Rock Stadium the second

1697
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: round and then a couple of weeks later in the

1698
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 5: National Title because hard Rock rotates in for the quarterfinals

1699
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 5: and the National Title. Interesting, Miami could play a home

1700
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 5: game in the National Title. Could could or they could

1701
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 5: not escape the first round? You know, either way.

1702
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that just makes will consent. Go Notre Dame.

1703
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 5: Sh everyone who loses in this bracket. You just need

1704
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 5: to have the tweet ready to be fired. Yeah, Notre

1705
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 5: Dame would have been such a better replacement in no doubt.

1706
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 3: Well before we do two classic game of the week Heisman,

1707
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 3: who's your heisman right now?

1708
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: At thefore?

1709
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 3: That's it there, futures clump. Did anybody who picked a

1710
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 3: future heisman?

1711
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: Guy? They make it? Yes?

1712
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: Who's that? Oh? Yeah, well.

1713
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: Geez? Who?

1714
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 5: Actually I deserve half a win for this he led

1715
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 5: he did to his thumb got cut off. He's playing

1716
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 5: with four fingers and he's still in the playoff. Imagine

1717
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 5: what he could have done with five.

1718
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: Imagine a couple of weeks off getting healthy, that thumb

1719
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: finally gets bigger.

1720
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: Nexterity exercises, getting healthy.

1721
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 2: Who do you have the hesman in your mind?

1722
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 4: Diego? What do the odds say?

1723
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: Actually?

1724
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 4: Because was it Mendoza?

1725
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: I just minus three? It doesn't make any sense, makes

1726
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: zero sense.

1727
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 5: The game that catapulted him was a thirteen to ten game. Yeah,

1728
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 5: it's not like you rain touchdowns all over the place. Now,

1729
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 5: one touchdown. He took one of the hardest hits of

1730
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 5: the season, got right back up and cut one of

1731
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 5: the great postgame promos in the modern era.

1732
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 4: But that, guys, are that will grant you that.

1733
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: Presssion.

1734
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: He had a You starting to sound like the playoff committee. Yeah,

1735
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: he had a great third down conversion. I'm sure Diego

1736
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: had as well. No, No, I know you, I know

1737
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 3: where you stand on who the heisman should be. But

1738
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:10,520
Speaker 3: I think it's so clearly Diego Pavia. And when I

1739
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 3: tweet that and everyone's coming at my head, how Fernanda

1740
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 3: Mendoza and then Jacob Rodriguez, he just gets it thrown

1741
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 3: in and I'm like, yeah, I kind of wish he

1742
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 3: was going to New York, but he's not gonna win.

1743
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: Ye.

1744
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: It's like the only two people that you would argue

1745
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 3: is Foranana Mendoza and Diego Pavia. People want to say

1746
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: Julian same, but I think there's enough holes there with

1747
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: who he was throwing to. You know that that whole thing.

1748
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: But Diego Pavia stats are his throwing sets are better

1749
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 3: than Banana Mendoza. And also you have to add on

1750
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: almost nine hundred yards of rushing and nine more touchdowns.

1751
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 3: Like if you're a value saying, who is the best

1752
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: player in college football? And who does who does more

1753
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: for their team?

1754
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: Diego does not keep it high and tight?

1755
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: Who does more for their team than anybody Else's Diego Pavia's.

1756
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need I need that speech.

1757
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: Through the air, Fernando has more turn Fernando has more

1758
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns through the air.

1759
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: Correct, like I think he was, Like Fernanda Mendoza doesn't

1760
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: have three thousand yards throwing because more touchdowns five?

1761
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: Actually game, Diego has more passing yards. Who's the last

1762
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: high who's the last quarterback to win a Heisman? They

1763
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't throw for three thousand Dude.

1764
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: He's a mic?

1765
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: Dude?

1766
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 2: What he's a mic?

1767
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: Oh? It is Cam. Cam Newton was the last quarterback

1768
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: to win a Heisman without throwing for three thousand yards

1769
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: and the only reason was because he ran for fourteen

1770
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: hundred yards and twenty touchdowns.

1771
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 5: Well that in Auburn picked up guys from the playground

1772
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 5: to be wide receivers for him that year. Yeah, so

1773
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 5: Cam a little bit different, A little bit there, just

1774
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 5: a little bit.

1775
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, people want to hate all this, you know. I

1776
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: think it's Diego Pavi too.

1777
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: I look Diego Pavi in the eyes last week and

1778
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: I say, he's like, what do you think? I was like,

1779
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 1: I think it's yours right now. But for Nanda Mendoza

1780
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: goes out there and throws for like two seventy five

1781
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: or three hundred and a couple of touchdowns. Probably he

1782
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: probably needs two touchdowns at least. I could see where Fernando,

1783
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: where the public gets on Fernando. But that didn't happen,

1784
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: So I was I feel like I would be lying.

1785
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: I would have lied to Diego if Bernando Mendoza wins

1786
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: this Heisman, and it was the Ohio State game where

1787
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: he hit him for one touchdown, one interception, and then

1788
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: a nice third downplay. But Banda mendo is a great

1789
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,839
Speaker 1: player though, keep said, I and I do in joy.

1790
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: I love every every interview he does. Need him on

1791
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: the bus.

1792
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 4: Raise your hand.

1793
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 5: If you have a Heisman vote, we can't be trusted

1794
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 5: with your Yeah, we can't be trusted to have a

1795
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 5: Heisman vote.

1796
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: Do you people not have it? Not have the vote?

1797
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: How do you get a Heisman vote?

1798
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 5: That's a great question, William.

1799
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I feel like if anybody would

1800
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: be close to it, it'd be you out of us.

1801
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 5: Three Well, I haven't asked for one. Apparently you need

1802
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 5: a beg and that's not something I'm you do get one? Yes,

1803
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 5: So we do know Heisman voters.

1804
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: Oh beg?

1805
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: Oh no, true story. A couple of years ago.

1806
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, I had I had a

1807
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 5: production assistant on my on my staff that was cutting

1808
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 5: video and we were having this conversation and I was

1809
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 5: just kind of laughing because I've never been upset about it.

1810
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 5: I just thought it's kind of weird that, like the

1811
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 5: way the Heisman votes are handed out, and she just

1812
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 5: echoes and like, wait, I have a Heisman vote. And

1813
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 5: we all looked at her and we said do what

1814
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 5: now she goes, yeah, I have a Heisman vote.

1815
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 4: It was at that point that I lost faith in

1816
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: the process.

1817
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, system is not broken, though, the Heisman system.

1818
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 4: Where were you trying to cook the vote over here?

1819
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask a couple of people, a

1820
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: couple of.

1821
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 4: Things, Okay, how many? How many?

1822
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: High?

1823
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 3: That was always making sure that if you've won a Heisman,

1824
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 3: you do get a vote.

1825
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: You get a vote. So I texted.

1826
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 3: Marcus and I was like, do you have a vote,

1827
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: And when he says yes, I'm saying who did you

1828
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: vote for?

1829
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: And the ill yeah, I can ask I.

1830
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 5: Well, they try and make it sound like he's punishable

1831
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 5: by banishment to if you reveal your vote.

1832
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 2: All right, so the vote's already in.

1833
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: I guess Digle lost, which is Oh, it's over, man.

1834
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 3: I feel like if there's anybody to be made, no Playoff,

1835
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 3: no Heisman, no Joe Moore.

1836
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 1: Either, Vandy doesn't get to partake in any of the

1837
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: no sec favor.

1838
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 5: And they showed, They showed up, They parked out front,

1839
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 5: they got a good spot. They went knocked on the

1840
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 5: door and they hear the music inside and they know

1841
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 5: someone's home.

1842
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 4: No one ever comes to the door to.

1843
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 1: The Off, which is insane.

1844
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Speaker 3: Army at Navy America's game. Okay, Navy's favorite at six

1857
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: and a half. The total points in the game is

1858
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: thirty seven and a half, fifty stars, thirteen bars. These

1859
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 3: colors don't run. I think it's unpatriotic for me to

1860
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: even sit and say this team's been the other. Even

1861
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: though Navy was in a three way tie for their

1862
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 3: conference championship and Army was six and five, so I

1863
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 3: would pick a Navy to cover six and a half. However,

1864
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the over thirty seven and a half.

1865
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 1: William, thirty seven and a half, let me go defense.

1866
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: I'll go under thirty.

1867
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that.

1868
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: Let me just fight for the under this game with

1869
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: these two teams.

1870
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 4: I agree with you.

1871
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 5: Under thirty seven and a half's always been a safe

1872
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,200
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1873
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,679
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1874
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 4: You know.

1875
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 5: I told you. I went back and reviewed the outcast

1876
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 5: and the actual hardest image from that outcast was we

1877
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 5: were on air when they played the anthem and you

1878
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 5: could see us, and someone took a picture from the

1879
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 5: ground up and we all got hands over hearts and

1880
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 5: old Glory is flying in the background.

1881
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 4: I'd be lying if I.

1882
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 5: Said I didn't get little Missy looking at that. We

1883
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 5: did that broadcast for our country. Yeah, this game is

1884
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 5: being played for our country.

1885
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: All there's a lot of things that bust what the

1886
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: boys doesn't do for their country. We believe in this country.

1887
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: I believe in these men that have taken the field.

1888
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,919
Speaker 2: We're not at war yet, we're not overseas.

1889
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: There's done a lot of things busting with the boys

1890
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: won't do for this country.

1891
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, we're always in a war. Every days of war.

1892
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: That all cast was a war.

1893
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: The trolls in Pate's comments section. That's a war going on.

1894
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 3: There, wars that take place every single day. It's whether

1895
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna answer the bell or not.

1896
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 5: I wish you could have my seat because the moment

1897
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 5: you said, we're not at warr yet, JP has been

1898
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 5: scrolling his phone for ten minutes, hasn't said a word,

1899
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,799
Speaker 5: and he just went every day's a war.

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: So under over yep.

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Speaker 1: Fun.

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1904
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: last time they were in Baltimore, Army broke a twelve

1905
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: game losing streak.

1906
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Speaker 2: So if that is the case of Barmy's gonna win

1907
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