1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garland. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: all about the choices we make and where they lead us. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: My guest today is someone who is a self made 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: serial entrepreneur and vocal advocate for women. Over a twenty 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: five year career in healthcare, she has built and sold 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: two businesses for more than one point five billion dollars. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: She's the founder of the first ever FDA approved drug 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: for low sexual desire in women, Addie the Little Pink Pill, 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: and I cannot wait to speak with her. Please welcome 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Cindy Eckert to the pod. Thank you. 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm having a pinch me moment. I need you to 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: know this right now. Sitting here with you, well I 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: really am. I mean, just sitting here with you and 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: now your whole I Choose Me. It's it just so 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: resonates with this entire path for me. So thank you 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: for having me. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. I'm so glad that it works for 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: you because it's such an important message. And I'm so 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: glad you're here too. 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Oh we were talking before about how fabulous you look. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to reiterate that, I think before we 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: dive into women's libido and that vast topic. Yes, I 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: would love for our listeners to get to know you 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: just a little bit better. And one of the interesting 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: things that I found in my research was that you, 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: growing up moved around a lot, and I was wondering 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: what kind of impact that had on you, both positively 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: or negatively. 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: So positively, I still ask my parents if it was 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: some kind of weird experiment to train me to be 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, because I was definitely the perpetual new kid, 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't fit. I was always a 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: little bit on the outside of the room looking in. 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't the jock, I wasn't the geek. But it 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: also that's incredibly freeing because I was never sort of 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: defined by anyone else's you know, sort of belief of 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: who I was or their own terms. So that was 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: the pause of the negative like I was in that regard, 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: also such a social misfit. I came back, I lived 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: overseas and I lived in the Fiji Islands. 43 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: There wasn't even tell them bad. 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound bad, but come back in like the 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: eighth grade, and no, no, like cultural reference. You're pretty weird. 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: But I look back on it and I'm so grateful 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: for it. At the time, you know, every twelve months 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of packing your bags and leaving your friends and 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: saying bye. It was tough. A lot of disruption, disruptor 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: lots of disruption. 51 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: That's good. But I also kind of love the fact 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: that you could just keep reinventing yourself, Like wherever you moved, 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: you could just be whatever you wanted to be. 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: I think it really made me a very open minded 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: thinker in the sense that, you know, there were all 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: of these possibilities, all these different kind of points of 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: view that I saw, different cultures, everything else that, you know, 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: It's allowed me to not be confined in my thinking 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: even in my professional life now today. 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, how does one go about co 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: founding a pharmaceuticals brand, because I've got no idea. Had 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: you wanted to do this since your whole life or 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: is this something that just sort of came out of 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: the blow. 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: You know what I want to do. I wanted to 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: be exceptional in business. I've always like chased learning from 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: people who are great at something, and so when I 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: got out of college, I went to work for Fortune's 69 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: most admired company, which happened to be a pharmaceutical company, 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Like it could have been anything. I went there. Then 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: I fell in love with science and actually making a 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: difference in people's lives. Like I was so moved by 73 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: it that I chased innovation, and you know, I got 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: into smaller and smaller startups really doing the cool work, 75 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: the innovation, and thought, well, why am I going in 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: and like cleaning up everyone else's messes, Like I'll just 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: go make my own mess. It's my own fault. I'll 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: have to fix it. And I think I had enough 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: of a track record that I believed that people would 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: write me a check. It was all it takes, by 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: the way I have to and like that. My first 82 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: company was literally called slate, so clean slate on my 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: own terms, you know, soberen when you go out and 84 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: actually ask people to write you a check. And I 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: don't fit the mold of what you would think of 86 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: as a pharma CEO in any way. So that was 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: an interesting journey. But the idea was there've got to 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: be all of these other people out there in this 89 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: industry that like, really are in love with the patient, 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: and the difference we can make in patients lives, and 91 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: that can be lost in you know, big business. So 92 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: what if I got those kind of people together against 93 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: a challenge, what could we accomplish? And we built a 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: really successful business. But you know it's it's not a 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: typical startup story. Pharma is very expensive, all the clinical trials. 96 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: I had to figure out a way to raise a 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: whole lot of money to get these products to market. 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: But did get to do it on my own terms. 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: That's amazing. You went out and raised all your own 100 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: money too. Oh absolutely, And was like ceremoniously laughed out 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: of basically every room at the beginning, like you especially 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: are you kidding the pink pill? They were like hah, 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: like all the all the guys in gray suits for 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: link and get out of here. Good luck and you 105 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: know what is your what feels like your curse becomes 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: your blessing. You know, all those no's led me into 107 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: rooms of people who were high networth family office nobody. 108 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: I didn't have a rich uncle, so I didn't know 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: any of these folks to begin with. But I you know, 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: went into rooms and when I would meet people who 111 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: believed in me, I would say, can you introduce me 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: to five of your friends, And so now I have 113 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: this unbelievable group who bet on me, who were just 114 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: like private individuals who believed in the cause. And that 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: was the blessing because this was such a rocky road 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: to get this to market that as opposed to like 117 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: a classic venture you know, capitalist who would have said 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: no way the first time we hit a road bomb. 119 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: They stuck with me all the way through and they're 120 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: still still with me today. 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: That's the persistence that it takes. And you found your people. 122 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: I did. I really found my people. I mean, I'm 123 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: so grateful for it. Even we'll get to this in 124 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: the story, but when we sold the product and they 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: never launched it, that group of people had a great return, 126 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: but they were like still stuck with me and said 127 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: go back and get it. We didn't do this for 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: women not to have access to it, so they they're 129 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: true to the cause. And I really appreciate that about. 130 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then selling the business, which is such 131 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: a huge decision, I'm sure, but part of that usually 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: means letting go of what happens after you're gone. Was 133 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: that hard. 134 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: So I really can't think of a period of my 135 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: life in which I was more depressed. It's so this 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: is it was your baby, Addie is me. I'm in 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: so many ways like what it stands for. What it 138 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: stood for to me and to sell it was the 139 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: dream come true. Like it's a little bit you know, 140 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: you have this beautiful baby, but if somebody else could 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: raise your baby to its highest potential in the world, 142 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: you say, okay, you know, like I want that. That's 143 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: what I want for this baby. So it was arguably 144 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: like the entrepreneur's dream come true. I sold the business. 145 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: They were gonna get it to women everywhere, and then 146 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: when they didn't do it, it was soul crushing, like 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: I was so not only lost part of like what 148 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: this was all about for me, but I felt like 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I'd let everyone down. I'd let all the women who 150 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: were counting on me down, all the doctors who'd stood 151 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: there next to me at the f day, I'd let 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: them all down. And that was really hard to wrestle 153 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: with until I like kicked myself in the ass and 154 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: said nope, not on my watch, Like you fought to 155 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: get this far, put the gloves back on, and then 156 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: I went, you know, and I fought big pharma and 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: I got it back. 158 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ended up selling the company for a billion 159 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: dollar yes, and then that's a incentive, yes, and then 160 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: ultimately you got it back. What made you choose to 161 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: step back up to the plate just that that it 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: was your baby and you had so much passion. 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: How in the world can a company we fought men 164 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: had twenty six FDA approved treatment options before we ever 165 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: got one, even though more women struggle than men do. 166 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: And then a company bought it and they never gave 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: women access to it. They shelved it. When was this 168 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: That was in twenty and fifteen, ten years ago, they 169 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: bought it. You know, so big week. I got this 170 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: product the first ever in the world approved, you know, 171 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: sell the company a billion dollars cash. Oh my gosh, 172 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: people are going to care about women's health. We're so excited. 173 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: And then literally it never gets launched. They like put 174 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: it on the shelf in no way, like absolutely not, 175 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: like we fought so that women could have access to it. 176 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: I even to this day, you know, whether women take 177 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: out of or don't take AUDI, that's not what this 178 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: has ever been about. 179 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: For me. 180 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: What it's been about is that you deserve to know 181 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: it exists. You deserve to talk about this and have 182 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: equal access to medical treatments for medical conditions. 183 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay, before we get into Addy and all its glory, 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 2: tell me about the pink ceiling. Yeah, why is that 185 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: something so important to you to get involved with firsts? 186 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: That healthcare first that are for women, buy women? 187 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, having an exit like that, it 188 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: was my second, but like it was, you know, big 189 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: lots of news media around it. I think in that 190 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: intervening period, as I was so sad that my baby 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: wasn't being launched, I also thought to myself, like, you 192 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: have a responsibility to help other women get there quicker 193 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: than you did, Like how do I help this not 194 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: happen to anyone else? How do I help them achieve 195 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: their dreams? And how do we continue to push for 196 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: first Like we can't have these massive discoveries in women's 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: health for them to be shelved. And so I thought, well, 198 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: then I'm going to start putting money behind it and 199 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: see the things that I want in this world come 200 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: to life. And you know, it's been so fun to do, 201 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: and it's had a variety, like I stick to my 202 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: lane of health, but you know, everything from a woman 203 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: in Texas. She's a brilliant engineer. She created basically like 204 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: a stud finder for the spine so that women's epidurals 205 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: are easier. Okay, amazing, right, Like as opposed to like 206 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: going like I think this is the right spot and 207 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: like sticking a needle in. You know, she's got an 208 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: actual device. It's like, no, this is the right spot. 209 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Put it in. And you know those kind of things. 210 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: Bobby the Infant Formula Company, like talking you know, working 211 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: with Laura there as they were going through some FDA, 212 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's my lane. Like I understand 213 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: when it's regulated, but just have loved to be behind 214 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: these products for women that might not otherwise ever make 215 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: it to market. 216 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: You said, I got a billion dollars. Heck am I 217 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: going to do with it? 218 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Success for me has never looked like money. It's looked 219 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: like impact. And like you know, money is a conduit 220 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: for a lot of good in this world can be 221 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: a conduit for bad. You choose, right, how are you 222 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: going to use it? And for me, it's been a 223 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: responsibility to I think, help other women achieve their dreams. 224 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: And I would like, you know, a billion more exits 225 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: if you will for women. 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: So that's so admirable. I love the idea of women 227 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: building other women up. There's just nothing like it, no doubt. 228 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: I love that. So part of choosing ourselves and there 229 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: shouldn't be any shame around this topic is choosing to 230 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: acknowledge that we as women are sexual beings. Right, We 231 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: have desires and that's healthy, yes, But for some reason 232 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: society doesn't encourage us to talk about that. And so 233 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: when we experience dips in our libido certain times in 234 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: our lives, we tend to not talk about that either. Yeah, 235 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: and oftentimes internalize that and feel bad about ourselves because 236 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: of it. 237 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: But still no talking, right, so filled with so much 238 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: shame and stigma. I you know, I really think about 239 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: like our desires as transcendent, even of the bedroom, like 240 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: in this conversation, right, Like what is our what brings 241 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: us pleasure? 242 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: It? 243 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the bedroom, and I think if you 244 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: become in touch with that, it comes out. It's in 245 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: the boardroom. It's all of those things. But this entitlement 246 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: that women deserve, women deserve to be in touch with 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: this part of themselves. And it's so weird to me 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: that we it's so it's such an obvious truth for men, 249 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: but for women it's like the silent unspoken. 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: It's wild. 251 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: I have a game that my fiance and I play. 252 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: We go not that kind of game, but we can 253 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: talk about that offline too. I we you know, when 254 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: we go to cocktail parties. It's like I live a 255 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: social experiment every day being in this business. So when 256 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: we go in, at some point in the night, it 257 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: comes to that conversation with like, what do you do? 258 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: What do you do? And he always looks at them 259 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: and he's like, buckle up, so just for it. So 260 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: I start telling and if it's a you know, a 261 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: woman and a man, a couple, they'll like the woman 262 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: will immediately like lean back from the conversation, and the 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: man will immediately lean in and he'll be can I 264 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: take it? And I'm like, what I'm watching right here 265 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: is actually all social conditioning. He understands he's entitled to it. 266 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: He's entitled to a great, satisfying sex life. It's part 267 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: of who he is. And she's worried she shouldn't talk 268 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: about it. Now, by the end of the night, I'm 269 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: in like a cluster of women and we're all talking 270 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: about it though, but it's not. It's still like that 271 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: social conditioning. It's fascinating. It sounds like that's the why, right, Yes, 272 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: breaking that down, like why shouldn't we get to live 273 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: life on our own terms? Why shouldn't we ask for 274 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: the things that we need? None of us would be 275 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: here without sex and trustake, I know this is gonna 276 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: we're going to break the Internet with But if that's true, 277 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: then it is a part of how we go through 278 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: this life and it's part of our overall wellness. 279 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you have a good sex life, something 280 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: that brings you pleasure, I can see how that would 281 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: transcend into all the parts of your life. Absolutely, the 282 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: endorphins and all the chemicals that come from a good 283 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: sex life. 284 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: The most delicious cocktail our body releases, the most delicious 285 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: cocktail of you know, hormones when we have good sex, 286 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: and it really does like your in mental wellness, like 287 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: I always describe over time, like my probably greatest privilege 288 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: is how many women have shared with me this struggle, 289 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: like you know, behind the closed doors or their bedroom, 290 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: something that they don't They've revealed that to me. And 291 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: what I can tell you is to a person different 292 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: walks of life, different ages, everything. They feel disconnected. They 293 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: feel disconnected from themselves and like that inner moxy you 294 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: know that we have with our sex drive and our sexuality, 295 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: and they feel disconnected from the person that arguably they 296 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: want to be most connected to in this world. You 297 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: tell me that restoring that doesn't make It's like life 298 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: comes in color. I watch it like I feel it 299 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: with friends who you know, are sort of living in 300 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: this gray world. They've sort of shrunken back in themselves 301 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: everything else, and then like the lights go on and 302 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: they're just they're transformed. 303 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: That's so beautiful. Wow, I love that. Okay, tell our 304 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: listeners about Addie. Okay, little pink pill, Little pink this 305 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: is what we've been doing. Yes, so Addie is this 306 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: is our biggest sex organ. So we're brain flow, not 307 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: blood flow. Okay, So Addie works on the brain. It's 308 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: a non hormonal pill that women can take that increases 309 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: their sex drive. It was discovered as a mood drug. 310 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: So actually, if you think about like all all of 311 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: these products, most of which women take, which are around 312 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: you know, depression, anxiety, what's their number one side effect? 313 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Typically they decrease your sex drive. So The scientific thesis 314 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: was simple, if we work on dopamine and serotonin and 315 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: we cause your sex drive to go down, could we 316 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: also work on dopamine serotonin cause it to go up. 317 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, that's what Addie does. And 318 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: so when I'm in you know, perimenopause and I'm starting 319 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: to have mood disturbance, sleep disturbance, libido disturbance, that's really 320 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: how ADDIE's working and what's going on there on dopamine 321 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: and serotonin. 322 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: So the media, you know, over time, has has called 323 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: us the female viagra, And all I'll say is we're 324 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: so much more interesting. Yeah, right, this is such a 325 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: bigger This isn't directed blood flow. This is about like 326 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: igniting the sex center of the brain so that you 327 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: are responding to cues. And you know, this is what 328 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I love. So patients who respond I need I should 329 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: say not. No medication is a panacea, right, No medication 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: is perfect for everyone. So I always want to say that. 331 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: But when I see women who've responded, what's so fun 332 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: is that at the very beginning they talk about like Ooh, 333 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: I had the best sex dream, or you know, I 334 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: was watching a movie and I was like, wow, that 335 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: I'm really turned on, Like let's go do that, and 336 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: they're like, I can't remember the lastime I had a 337 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: woman come up to me at a medical conference who's 338 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a physician. She's on Addie and she's like, I sent 339 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: my first nude. I'm like, okay, don't show me, and 340 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: like those are the stories that delight me because they 341 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: actually reveal exactly how we are wired biologically and how 342 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: it's working. And I think, like it's as if female 343 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: sexuality is so mysterious and then you're like, no, like 344 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: this is right here, and when things go off kilter, 345 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: it's not surprising. We don't think about it. We're lying 346 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: and bet we're doing our to do list. Oh like 347 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I gotta do this, this, this, and like you're not 348 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: in that place or that headspace for sex to ignite. 349 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: So that's how it works, and. 350 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: It makes sense because women are emotional beings and you 351 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, men can just get it going and do 352 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: it anytime. 353 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, interestingly, I will say, like men don't get 354 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: an erection unless they have desire, So like there's a 355 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: very connection with like mechanics, if you will same with us, 356 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: like you know, arousal lubrication, like if you look at 357 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: all of the models and sex, like, if I can 358 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: get the engine started in that part of that brain, 359 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: like the quality improves. We actually, in our clinical size, 360 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: we had to prove that not only that you wanted 361 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: to have sex, but when you had sex, that it 362 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: was satisfying. And that's that's really the core relations. 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: So this is such good stuff. 364 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: It's very very fun sex ed for adults. 365 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: I need it. I love it. I'm not often so 366 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: open about talking about sex, but I feel like this 367 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: is such important information all women need to have access 368 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: to because you know what, like, as you said, it's 369 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: true that we are emotional beings, and that's important right 370 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: talking about that, But I think what happens in women's 371 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: health all too often is we end there you're just 372 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: emotion So when you come in with medical symptoms, I 373 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: first pat you on the shoulder and I tell you 374 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: just relax. You're just freaking out, And like that shows 375 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: up when if you're having a heart attack, if you 376 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: have PCOS, if you go on and on and on, 377 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: and it's because like we are, but that's not our 378 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: full picture. And maybe similar for men, like we immediately 379 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: think men are all men are biology like they have 380 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: a problem, fix it, Like we we're gonna fix it. 381 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna give them a solution. And for women, like 382 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: for too long in medicine, our solution is take a 383 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: bubble bath. 384 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: That's your prescription. 385 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I will take that prescription, but I want more. 386 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: That's right. Like, That's that I think is exactly it 387 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: not biology to the exclusion of all of that conversation, 388 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: right like self care, you know, all all of those things, scheduling, 389 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: date night, making it, all of those things are very valid, 390 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: but they can't be the full picture. 391 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: Right. 392 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: That's that's really I think, at least from my standpoint, 393 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: my crusade. And I'll I say this to audiences today 394 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone's talking about GLP ones or 395 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: weight loss medications and zempimunjar, et cetera. And I'm like, 396 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: what is that? Actually, what's the takeaway? The takeaway is 397 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: for so long we've told, you know, folks who struggle 398 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: with weight, work out more, eat better, do this, do that, 399 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: and a little bit we're like, I know that it 400 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: places blamed. You're like, oh, but I'm yeah, I'm trying. 401 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing this and I've done this. Fad died and 402 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: this fad diet, and then all of a sudden a 403 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: medication comes along and we're all like, wait, it's genetics, 404 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: and like it's such an obvious truth. How could we 405 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: have missed it. It doesn't mean don't eat well, exercise, 406 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: do all of those things that are important for your lifestyle. 407 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: But again, like, let's be kind to everybody by acknowledging 408 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: they are a biological being and they may be struggling 409 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: with something for which there is a medical solution. 410 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so specifically, tell me what are the positives you 411 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: will see from taking addia? Okay? What if are there 412 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: side effects? Yes? For sure the details. 413 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: Everything has side effects, whether it's a supplement or an 414 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: over the counter or a medication. What I likes about medications, 415 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: We know what they are because we've done the extensive 416 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: research and studies in them. So let's start there. Side 417 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: of effects common to Addie our sleepiness, dizzyness, nausea, those 418 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: are our top three. Less than two percent of women 419 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: in our clinical trials discontinue due to any side effect 420 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: less than well tolerated. You know, like I said, we're 421 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: not all one size fits all, so some woman might 422 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: not tolerate another woman will. It's why you take it 423 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: daily at bedtime. So that's really the key. It's not 424 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: for everybody. If you have liver impairment, you're not ready 425 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: for Addie. You know, it's not common in our age band, 426 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: but that's like a patient type that they would look 427 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: out for. And doctors of course know all this from prescription. 428 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: What should you expect? So if you take Addie, it's 429 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: building in your system over time. Remember we're working on 430 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: we're working on neurotransmitters, so it's building, so it starts 431 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: to come alive with exactly like I told you, those 432 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: spontaneous thoughts or little fantasies. There's an obgyn out of Ohio. 433 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: I love listening to her speak because she says she 434 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: had a patient comeback and she's like, I can't stop 435 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: thinking about Lebron James. And she was like, are you 436 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: a basketball fan? And she's like, not really no, but 437 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, and who knows, who knows who yours will be. 438 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: But I think it's again, it's that like that place 439 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: in the brain waking up, percolating, responding to sexual cues. 440 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: I think that also is receptivity to partner that might 441 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: have been missing, you know, you might have been like 442 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: going to bed early just to avoid this, avoiding sex, avoiding. 443 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: Staying awake while when they go to sleep. 444 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear it all the time. So it's it's receptivity, 445 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: even initiation, like you're feeling you're sexy. So I think 446 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: that's really like it's a it's a waking up of 447 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: like an inner drive. It's sex drive, right, So that 448 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: that's what you can expect from it, I think, is 449 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: to feel that and because of how it works, you know, 450 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: because it's working on you're getting sort of that daily 451 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: dose of dopamine. We'll hear from a lot of patients 452 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: about food, so mood, I feel good sleep. Sleep is 453 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: a side effect for many women. And that's really getting 454 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: disturbed right now. Like I talked to so manyone whence 455 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: the last time you got a good night of sleep? 456 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: And that's all of those so important. So I think 457 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: those are you know, realistically, what you can expect from 458 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: from the medication. It's not zero to sixty, So I 459 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: do think, you know, sometimes because the media like to 460 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: call it, of course they had to call it the 461 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: male drug, right, female viagram. I'm still waiting for them 462 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: to invent a male addie, because I think men should 463 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: have a male addie right transmitter exactly right. But you know, 464 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: I think, like, you're not going to take it and 465 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: swing from the chandeliers tonight. I just want to set 466 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: that expectation with everybody. I can't remember my first press interview. 467 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: She's like, but what if Channing Tatum comes to the table, 468 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: like are you going home with him? And I'm like, actually, 469 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: probably not the first night. 470 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: Like it's it's. 471 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Not it takes time, yes, I think it's It's much 472 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: like so many products we take, you know, for medical conditions, 473 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: like it takes a minute to like your system to adjust. 474 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: It's bringing you back to that place. It's just like 475 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: you wouldn't take an antidepressant tonight and become euphoric. You'd 476 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: be restored back to a place you once to work. 477 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: It takes time at builds, whereas the viagra is on demand. Yep, 478 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: it is a situation. 479 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: It is. We're not on demand when it comes to sex. 480 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: And I love that about us. I do too. I 481 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: actually love that even in our like even in our 482 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: market testing, women love that about us. I love that 483 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: we do like we are very well aware, so you know, 484 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: taking something daily and finally, like the kids are asleep 485 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: or it's date night or something like it. It's there right, 486 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: like it's the it's on board. 487 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 2: It's on board. I'm a little confused. I read on 488 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: your website that Addie is not for menopausal women. 489 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'll tell you that distinction. So we had 490 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: to study pre menopausal prepairs right and post separately. We 491 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: are at the FDA now for postmenopausal, so that's great. 492 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: They're reviewing it right now. We're already approved in Canada 493 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: for postmenopausal. But today in the United States, our indication 494 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: is for pre so up until the time you go 495 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: through menopause, but the data is already published in menopause. 496 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: Oh. I love this because, yeah, perimenopause can last for 497 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: years and years and years, and that can really affect 498 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: your relationship when you have no sex drive, no doubt 499 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: for those perimenopausal years. It's also when your menopausal doctor 500 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: Haer told me that menopause lasts for one day, yes, 501 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: and then you're after that. 502 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: You are your post y. 503 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 504 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: It's like a single day in your life day that's 505 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: that day you have disappointment. 506 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: For me, I want like longer to celebrate it. That's great. 507 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: But yeah, so then you have the rest of your 508 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: life basically sure. And if your sex drive doesn't come 509 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: back yeh, or doesn't you know kick in, yes, then 510 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: you're just not It's not a work out for you. 511 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: There's very way weird things in women's health. I know 512 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: you'll you'll know this, and there's far too vast to 513 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: go into for the whole audience. But it's a little unusual. 514 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: We had to study women separately pre and postment apostle 515 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: because it's brain chemistry. It's not hormones, right, ADDIE's non hormonal, 516 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: so it's a it's a funny thing. But we're really 517 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: excited about the review of our data right now because 518 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: we would be the first ever FDA approval for that too. 519 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: So keep your fingers crossed and I'm coming back on 520 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: the day that we get it. 521 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, I'm so I have all 522 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: of my fingers and toes cross. Okay, specific can you 523 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: drink alcohol so you can't? Yes, short answer yes, Because 524 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: Addie makes you sleepy, you think about anything else that 525 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: might also make you sleepy, combining it. 526 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: This is good common sense advice. So our language actually 527 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: looks like tile. It all addie. If you have three 528 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: or more drinks, we say skip the dose that night. 529 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: If you're going out to the you know, to party 530 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: with the girls, just skip your dose that night. And 531 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: it's really about like compounding effects basically, So would it 532 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: make you extra sleepy? So doctors know that language for us? 533 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: If you're out on a bendor, the answer is no, 534 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: but yes you can safely use if you're having a 535 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: couple of glasses of wine with dinner, and you know, 536 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: taking addis directed at bedtime. 537 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, at bed time. That helps with the sleepy part, yes, okay. 538 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: What I love about this conversation is that so many 539 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: of us know about the little blue pill that we 540 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: talked about for men, and people talk about it so openly. 541 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: I think that all women out there should be talking 542 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: about this little pink pill just as much, because we 543 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: deserve it. We deserve to have good sexual health, and 544 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: I think that we are so prettydispositioned to somehow forget 545 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: that or not allow ourselves. That's mindset I know. I 546 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: think it's rooted in pleasure. I think it's rooted in 547 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: like so much shame around sex for us, Like we 548 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: are told we are here for reproduction that has reinforced 549 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: our entire life. We are only sort of taken seriously 550 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: if pain is present, like we never enter into the 551 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: realm of the pleasure conversation so messed up. 552 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: It's so messed up. I mean, I really do. Every 553 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: audience I get an opportunity to speak, this is my 554 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: first question. By a show of hands, how many of 555 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: you know that there's a little pink pill for women? 556 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: And you know, thankfully more hands are starting to raise, 557 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: but for years it's almost no hands in the room. 558 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: And then I say, well, then I have to ask 559 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: the obvious next question, how many of you know there's 560 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: a blue pill for men? And the entire audience raises 561 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: their hand, and I'm like, well, you couldn't have missed 562 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: it because it was the cover of Time magazine and 563 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: we have three times as many patients worth of data. 564 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: This women's product has more science. So how has it 565 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: not been the cover of every magazine. 566 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: To get you? On the cover of Time, Let's do 567 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: you and this little pink pill? I am here are. 568 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: Little pink pills, right, yep, yep. 569 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: When women think about lolbido, they kind of associate it 570 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: with aging, and that's just a natural thing that happens 571 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: and there's nothing you can do about it. Not true, 572 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: not true, not true. And also I think people think 573 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: of that for Addie, and you'd be surprised. This is 574 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: pretty indiscriminate across the age bands, so across all of 575 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: our clinical trials, not necessarily our indication, you know, as 576 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: FDA gives you a narrower band. 577 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: We studied eighteen to eighty. Really, and you know, your 578 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: distress is high, Like I can get stopped outside of 579 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: the you know, when I'm going to some of my 580 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: team's like wedding showers or the bridal showers, and like 581 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: young women are stopping me, Like Sunday, Sindy. You know, 582 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: I was struggling, like with dating because I really have 583 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: such a low sex drive and I'm so like, you know, 584 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: it's making me not get out there socially, and I 585 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: mean I love that. So it's not like this is 586 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: one thing if I had one wish, We're going to 587 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: make so many things happen out of this podcast. Time 588 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: agg all it we have so many things. But let 589 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: me put this out there to everybody. If we could 590 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: change one word in women's health, we would quit telling 591 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: women things that they struggle with are normal, and we 592 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: would say they are common, because once we acknowledge it's common, 593 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: we continue to explore what we might do to solve it. 594 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: As soon as we tell her it's normal, Yeah, you 595 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: just walk away it's normal. Deal with it like it's 596 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: not normal. Like actually losing your sex trip is not normal. 597 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: It's common, common, and there are things you can do 598 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: for it, many things you can do for it. But 599 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I think that's crucial, and so I give that even 600 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: to the audience as a watch out that if if 601 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: you're in a medical office and you're talking about something 602 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: you're really struggling with that maybe you even are embarrassed 603 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: to be discussing and they tell you it's normal, you 604 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: have to push through. You have to like you're your 605 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: own advocate. 606 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: What happens? What should we say when the doctor says, oh, 607 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: that's normal. 608 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: You should say. I think what you say to them 609 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: is is it normal or is it common? And what 610 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: are the biological issues that might be going on? Because 611 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're saying emotion normal, move on, 612 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: good luck, and you just have to say normal or common. 613 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: Because I've read there's a lot of women who struggle 614 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: with this, what are my options? Again? Nothing if it's 615 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: too complicated for them to figure out, you know what's 616 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: not complicated for them to tell you what solutions there 617 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: are for it. That's not complicated. 618 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be. Yeah, so interesting. Okay, where can women 619 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: go to get addie? Do they go to their grinecologist? 620 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: And is it covered by insurance? 621 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: Great questions. So to get Addie. First, I'm going to say, 622 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: go to our site ADI dot com because we have 623 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: a list of doctors in your area, so you'll know 624 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: that you're going to somebody who is passionate about this, 625 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: because I feel like so many women run into their 626 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: doctor and run straight into a brick wall because they're 627 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: not trained. 628 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: They don't know about it. 629 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: And actually that's true of obgyn's too. So while we 630 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: have wonderful obgyn champions, of course of Addie, they're actually 631 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: trained in reproduction and fertility. We are reproductive beings for them. 632 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: So pleasure is often not asked like I ask, how 633 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: many of you have been asked by your OBGN how's 634 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: your sex life? They're at the front end. If they're 635 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: asking you that question, they're going above and beyond to 636 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: become educated. What I find fascinating is that so many 637 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: women walk into the environments in which like a medspolike 638 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: environment where they're talking about vulnerabilities. They're talking about maybe 639 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: it's the GLP ones, maybe it's hormone replacement therapy, maybe 640 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: it's just mike toxin or whatever that might be. You've 641 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: kind of let your guard down. So we're seeing a 642 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: lot of adoption of Addie in that space. But the 643 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: simple answer really for the audience is find somebody on 644 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: our website, because I will tell you for sure, doctors 645 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: are not educated on this, and I don't want you 646 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: to be met with resistance or a blank stare back 647 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: at you, because there are physicians that are really passionate 648 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: about this. 649 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was so interesting when I had 650 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: doctor harn and she said that she was a terrible 651 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: gynecologist for many years. Yeah, and that took so much courage, 652 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: I think for her to admit that I agree, and 653 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: then to sort of adjust course. I know. 654 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there are people. I think Mary Claire has 655 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: done so much to like just inspire other doctors to 656 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: go back and get educated, like you must be solving 657 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: these challenges. I will share a story. It's a wonderful woman. 658 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: Her name is doctor Julian Burt. She's an OBQ in 659 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. Shout out. And she told a similar 660 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: story to me where she said, you know, I had 661 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: this patient who would come in and ask me about 662 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: this issue about her libido. And I was always like, what, Like, 663 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: you're good, it's normal, Ada, and she said, And one 664 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: day she walked her out to the checkout and her 665 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: husband was sitting in the waiting room waiting for her, 666 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: and she said, this was the most beautiful man she'd 667 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: ever seen. And she's like, wait, what, Like, what's going on? 668 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: What's the problem that's going on? And she actually really 669 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: that patient inspired her. She's like, I cannot be doing this. 670 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: I can't be going to Google. I need to go 671 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: be educated. And she was so excited when Addie came out, 672 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: but she lost the patient. So she thought, I finally 673 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: have something I can I can help her with something. 674 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: She was textbook for this diagnosis, and she said she 675 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: ran into her at Costco and. 676 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm so excited, I'm so exacy. 677 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: I have something for you. And she said, oh too late, 678 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: doctor Bert, we got divorced. 679 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: Oh god, And she said that terrible story. 680 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: It's with me every day and I'm like, that is Look, 681 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: not all stories are going that way. That maybe is 682 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: the most dramatic. However, when we don't help women with 683 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: the things they're asking for, like, what is our responsibility 684 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: in it? Here's what I love. This has been a 685 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: long road for me. Of course, it's my deep passion 686 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: to change this conversation. Today, you can't be board certified 687 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: if you're a family practice internal med OBIQI n or 688 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: urologist without answering a test question on addie. Great, we're 689 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: changing it. It takes decades to change medical establishment, but 690 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: I really do. My niece just had a baby, and 691 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: I said, I'm promising her that like the world in 692 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: which her daughter grows up, she'll think it's ridiculous. We 693 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't talk about this. 694 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: There's just so many, so many fascinating, interesting, important developments 695 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: in women's health is happening now many and it's exciting. 696 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: It is exciting. I think it's exciting, and I think 697 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: the hero of the story are women who just took charge. 698 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: They don't just got up and said stop, give me 699 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: real solutions. I want things studied in my body, I 700 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: want things proven and I think that we're actually causing 701 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: the sea change. 702 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 2: Definitely. Oh I love women so much. 703 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: Me too. 704 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I asked you if it was covered by interro. 705 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. The answer is, I mean, obviously it 706 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: depends on your insur if you have a great employer, 707 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: the answer is yes. And it's actually a reasonable conversation 708 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: for you to have with your employer if it gets rejected, 709 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: because I promise you they covered the ed meds. I 710 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: tell a terrible story again. Oh my gosh, I'm Debbie 711 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: down around this one. But last year, I like, I 712 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: had to close the door of my office and just scream, 713 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: and my whole team was like, what's happening? And a 714 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: doctor had sent me a rejection notice from Blue Cross 715 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: Shield that said they would pay for the woman's addy, 716 00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: but first she needed to try marriage counseling. What what 717 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: what the actual that is offensive? To which I would say, 718 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: I'll give them my full proceeds of selling sprout if 719 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: they can show me one time they did that for 720 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: an edy medication with the man. Oh my god, that 721 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: is the that's the trap, right, that is the trap. 722 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: And that's even the trap for you know doctors when 723 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: they patch you on the shoulder. They're reinforcing being able 724 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: to get away with that. So the answer is not always, 725 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: but it should. If it doesn't, ask your employer, and 726 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you're too shy. At a minimum, we've 727 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: got cash coupons through you know, good RX and through 728 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: med spas and stuff that you can at least get it. 729 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: But you should fight like I. We fight it. We 730 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: fight it every day. We you know, I went berserk 731 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: when that happened on behalf of all women. I'd like 732 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: to think, and but I, you know, I need everybody 733 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: to kind of do their own fighting too if we 734 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: want to change it. 735 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so I heard that on your website. Yes you 736 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: can do telehealth. Yes appointments so you don't even have 737 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: to go to the doctor. Yes you can do this 738 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 2: from home. 739 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So honestly, when we set this up, I thought, 740 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: I just want women to be talking to somebody who's 741 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: educated about this, an expert, so you can like it. 742 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: If there's a blush factor for this, just go to 743 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: addie dot com. You'll talk to a doctor license in 744 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: your state. You do it completely online. They check on 745 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: the medications you're on, if you're appropriate for it or not, 746 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: and it ships to your doorsteps. So don't let shyness 747 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: or a blush factor keep you from addressing this that 748 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 1: was important to us too. Every way we can lift 749 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: the stigma and increase access around this conversation. 750 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, before I let you go, Cyndi Eker, what 751 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: was your last I choose me moment? 752 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I choose me having great sex last night. 753 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: Okay, yay, that's a choice because you chose to take 754 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: your health, your sexual health in your own hands. Yeah, 755 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 2: and do something about it. 756 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: But I did when we started at the top and 757 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: I said how much it means to me to be here. 758 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: I think I Choose me has been this whole journey 759 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: for me, every step along the way, whether it was 760 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: being laughed at when I raised money for it, and 761 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: choosing me in that like, I can do this, I 762 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: will find the way, you know, choosing me fighting the FDA, 763 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: like all of it, every step of the way. And 764 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: I think you know today choosing me is continuing to 765 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: get out there and get loud about this until it 766 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: changes in the way that I think it deserves to. 767 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 2: I love your passion, Thank you, I love your conviction. 768 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: Thank you. You are very strong and inspiring and I'm 769 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 2: so happy you were with us today. 770 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: Thank you,