1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, I appreciate you joining us as always. You 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: guys are phenomenal. You're the best in the world. You're 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: watching the Richard Sherman Podcast. But if you could do 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: me a huge favor and hit that sub button, it 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: would be greatly appreciated. You would do a service for 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: your boys. SHERV And I'll tell you what. I got 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: your back, You got my back, all love. Welcome to 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman Podcast. In What a week the forty nine 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Ers win, the Seattle Seahawks win. It couldn't go much 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: better in an upset for the Rams. What a game 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks ate. They dominated this game from 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: start to finish. Obviously a little bit more of a 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: shaky game for Sam Donald, and we knew it would be. 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: We knew Brian Floranes would do his best to bring pressure, 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: and he did that early and often. Mitchell, he did 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: a good job of making sure Sam Donald was uncomfortable 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: in the pocket he met. He did a good job 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: of making sure his guys got there and got hits 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. They forced the number of turnovers, forced fumbles, 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: big time hits on him in the pocket. Was he 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: was a little little shaky, and again that ups to 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: concern level for the Seattle Seahawks and I'm sure the 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: fan base because again that these are the these are 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: the issues that showed up before. These are the issues 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: that that plagued him in Minnesota last year, and the 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: issues that continue to plague him now. It's it's not 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna change unless he changes the narrative. Obviously, the offensive 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: line made a fair share of mistakes. There was one 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: play where where the tight end didn't block a defensive 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: end and he came in scott free. But again, none 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: of that helped Sam Donald. What did help Sam Donald 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: was this incredible Seattle Seahawks defense. They forced four interceptions 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: in the game, another forced fumble, They got a pick 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: six by Ernest Jones and I think was eighty five 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: yards on an incredible play by DeMarcus Lawrence to put 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback on the fourth down play, another 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: interception for Kobe Bryant, Tarik wooland got it. Everybody got involved. 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Everybody got an interception in this game, and they were 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: playing at an elite level. And then on the defensive line, 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: it was the guy, the big fellow up front who 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: got the party started. Leonard Williams gets a sack early 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: in this game that sets the tone. Then you look 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: up and DeMarcus Lawrence gets him won and Byron Murphy 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: gets him one, and everybody was getting in on the party. 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: And you gotta be able to appreciate the consistency and 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: playmaking from this defense that allows this offense. Even when 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: they're in the game and they're struggling and Flores is 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: getting to Sam Darnold and they're only able to manage 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: two field goals in the game, they're still able to 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: control this game and dominate it and win it in 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: dominant fashion. They started to get the run game going 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: a little bit in this game. I really appreciated that 53 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker thirteen for fifty six. It didn't seem like 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: a lot, but it looked like a lot in the game. 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: And there was a play where Harrison Smith got him. 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: It was just a shoe string tackle or he would 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: have been gone and that would have been a huge 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: explosive play. But it just looked like the run game 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: was starting to get going. And this is a really 60 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: stingy defense, a really really opportunistic defense that played really well. 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: So you gotta appreciate how they played. Ernest Jones got 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: another interception in the game. Charvionnade fourteen carries for fifty 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: two yards in the touchdown. This is the kind of 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: game the Seattle Seahawks needed to just continue to reinforce 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: the notion that they may be the best team in NFC. 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: And I know they lost to the Rams, but again, 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: I still feel like the Rams are a flaw team. 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: And I know everybody has all these stats to support 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: them being an elite team, but to lose to the 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers at home with the with 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and a bunch of cast all set receiver, 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: it just it just gave. It gives me. Paul's in 73 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: naming them the best best team, but their record said 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: you gotta name the best team. So they've been number 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: one of the pie rinkins. But they're lost today to 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Really shakes everything up somehow. The Chicago 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: Bears are number one in the NFC right now in 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: the playoff picture. I mean, anybody who said they knew 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: that going into the season, including Chicago Bears fans, is 80 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: lying to your face, Mitchell. 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: There's no question about that. But in regards to Seattle Man, Yeah, 82 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: you said it. This was not their best offensive game, 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: certainly not Sam Donald's best game. You know, you figure 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: he would come out, you know, aggressive, playing his former 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: team in the Minnesota Vikings that let him leave. 86 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: He did not look the part today. 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: But Seattle's defense did and they I gotta wonder what 88 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: Max Brosner is thinking about his first NFL debut here. 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: That's not what you want to, you know, turn in 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: on your first important performance. 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: You could see the guys frustrated out there. 92 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Kudos to Seattle's defense making life very tough for Justin 93 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: Jefferson and I don't even know how many others Justin 94 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: Jefferson had. It didn't seem like he had a plus 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: positive catch until like the fourth quarter. I know his 96 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: first catch was for like minus five yards. So every 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: time I was watching this game, it was either sack 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: or an interception. 99 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: So big shout out to Seattle. Richard. I'm with you. 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: I think there's certainly one of the top three teams 101 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: in this conference. I don't know if I throw them 102 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: up at number one. They got some work to do, 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: but we'll see. I mean down to stretch man. This 104 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: next couple of games is gonna be the money maker 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: for them. You know, they play the Falcons and then 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 2: they got some tough ones against the Colts and the Rams. 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: So you want to see who's the best in the NFC. 108 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: You knock off the Colts and Rams, and I think 109 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: a conversation is certainly to be had for them to 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: be the best in the NFC. 111 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: No question, you knock off the Colts and Rams. Forget 112 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the NFC. You're talking about a case for the best 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: team in the National Football League. Those are teams that 114 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: have have been in and out of the top five 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: in my power rankers all season long. They the Falcons 116 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: have been struggling mightily, so I feel like the Seattle 117 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: Seahawks can go in there and get a win there. 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: The Colts struggled a little bit today and that was 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: that was surprising. The Houston Texans. That defense continues to 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: make everybody struggle and they're finding ways to win. I 121 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: think they're now seven and two in their last eight games, 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: or maybe eight and two in their last ten, or 123 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean steven in two in their last nine games, 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: or eight and two in their last ten, if I'm 125 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: not mistaken, I gotta go back and look again. But 126 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: they're playing great football. They start the season on three 127 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: and now they're finding themselves maybe in playoff contention. They 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: gotta win. They got to continue to win. I think 129 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: they might have to win out in order to make 130 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: that a reality. But there's some chaos in the National 131 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: Football League right now. And another team that hasn't hasn't 132 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: really really had success in Cleveland Metell. They have not 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: won in Cleveland since nineteen eighty four. The San Francisco 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: forty nine ers go to Cleveland and get a win 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: over Shador Sanders in the Cleveland Browns. 136 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: Hey, you know it's the Browns and no one's thinking 137 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: too highly of them. But the reality is they got 138 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: a game wrecker on the other side of the field 139 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: of Miles Garrett, who did get home once. But all 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: in all, the forty nine controlled this game. Rock Purty 141 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty eight yards a rushing touchdown. You 142 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: saw his little uh dougie dance that he did in 143 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: the Enzo You gotta love to see that man. But 144 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey held in check twenty rushing attempts for fifty 145 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: three yards. Richard, Like, where are you at with the Niners. 146 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: They're nine to four. We talked about it a couple 147 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. This stretch of the schedule is all 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: winnable games for them that they should be winning. Is 149 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: your confidence level risen with this team despite all the 150 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: injuries that they've endured this season? 151 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean because again, if you got Kyle Shanahan, 152 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: you've got a chance. And that's what I feel with 153 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. Brock Perty is still 154 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: getting his legs under him. Obviously, there's still some injuries 155 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: concerned with the toe. There's still some pain there. He's 156 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: playing without the metal plate that a lot of guys 157 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: wear when they have that kind of turf toe injury, 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: so you got to keep an eye on that. But overall, 159 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: he's playing solid football. Again. It's a tough environment, a 160 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: really good deep defensive line that had him under the 161 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: rest all game long, and he found a way to 162 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: not take sacks that throw the ball away when necessary 163 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: to make the players that were there even scored on 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: a zone read today. That's a that's a wrinkle we 165 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: haven't seen from Kyle Shanahan and this offense in a 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: really long time. I'm not sure we've seen it since 167 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Kaepernick from being honest, but the the special teams and 168 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: in that phase of the game is where the San 169 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers are a different team than they 170 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: were last year or even the year before. The special 171 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: teams are providing incredible value and they had a huge 172 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: hand in winning this game. Sky Moore is the best 173 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: return in the San Francisco forty nine ers have had 174 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: probably since Ted Ginn, I would imagine, and he's making 175 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: an impact on big games and helping playing winning football. 176 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: This one in your offense is struggling and they're struggling 177 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: to move the ball against the defense that's stingy and 178 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: aggressive as the as the Browns defense is with the 179 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: game record, Like Miles Garrett that we we just talked 180 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: to about, you need your special teams to make a 181 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: play and sky Moore did that with a sixty six 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: yard punt return where he sliced through the their special 183 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: teams unit and set the the San Francisco forty nine 184 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: ers offense up with their first touchdown of the game, 185 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's really what got things going. And 186 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: on the other side, you just see this defense continuing 187 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: to mature. Three sacks in this game, two forced fumbles, 188 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: fumbles recovered in this game, and they're just playing more consistently, 189 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: more sound football, and you see the confidence growing. You 190 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: hear how George Kittle talked about Alfred Collins and his 191 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: growth and his work ethic and just how hard he 192 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: was working in this game and the impact that he 193 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: was having and how proud he was of him. This 194 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: team is together, and it's gonna take a second for 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: a young defense to jail in this way for them 196 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: when you don't have the veterans, you don't have the guys, 197 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, communicating the way veterans do. You don't have 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: them understanding the game the way the veterans do and 199 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: understanding the pace of the game and what should be 200 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: coming here and on third down and second down. Oh, 201 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: you should have a feel for this. You're falling. They're 202 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: they're susceptible to veteran moves. When you're a young guy, 203 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: you got to learn the game. And I think they're 204 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: starting to figure it out. And that's that's the cool 205 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: thing to see. Again, I said I said it before, 206 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I think this entire staff deserves 207 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. Robert Salo. What he's been able 208 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: to do, especially the last couple of weeks with this 209 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: with this defensive unit is incredible, incredible, And I know 210 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders and this offense isn't isn't the world beating, 211 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: but they are NFL offense. And he's been able to 212 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: manufacture really good success against the Carolina Panthers, who just 213 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: put up thirty one against the number one defense in 214 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: the land in LA against the La Rams. But they 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: couldn't they couldn't put manufacturer that kind of points against 216 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the Sea against the San Francisco forty nine ers, even 217 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: with all the t and over, the three brought party 218 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: interceptions before the half and they weren't able to turn 219 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: those into points. But they were able to manufacture thirty 220 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: one points against the La Rams. And so it's not 221 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: like he's doing it against offenses that aren't having success 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: everywhere else. Obviously, this is offense that that's been struggling 223 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: mightily throughout the season. But you got to tip your 224 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: hat off to Robert Sala and the job that he's doing. 225 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: You gotta tip your hat off to Kyle Shanahan getting 226 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: these guys prepared, and and John Lance for finding a 227 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: way to bandiate this defense as best he can with 228 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: with Cleveland Farrell and and Kean White and guys. I 229 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: think Cleveland Ferrell had two sacks today. And when you 230 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: when you when you're last in the league in sacks, 231 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: you will take it from wherever you can get it, 232 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: no question about it. Richard. 233 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't too long ago that I think the forty 234 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: nine are faithful ready to punt on the season with 235 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: all these injuries mounting and mounting and mounting. 236 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: And I know, you know, you. 237 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: Could even see it with you and in your in 238 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: your face and your voice. After that that last Fred 239 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: Warner injury, it just seemed like, man, maybe this is 240 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: just not the year. But to your point, this coaching 241 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: staff has put together and rallied the troops and has 242 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: got these guys at nine to four now. And Richard, 243 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: I mean, the reality is they're scheduled. The rest of 244 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: the way allows them to compete for this division. They 245 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: get to knock off some heavyweights and we'll see how 246 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: it nets out for him. They keep playing like this, 247 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: anything is possible. They enter the byeweight, they get healthy, 248 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: they go to the they go play against the Titans, 249 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: and then the Colts. 250 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: So we'll see here, Richard. 251 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: I like what I see with the Niners, especially defensively. 252 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 2: Rock Purty keep things rolling, Pete keep bitting, getting back 253 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: into his comfort zone, and the Niners. 254 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: Might be able to make some noise at the end 255 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: of the day. 256 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: Let's switch the focus of the other NFC West team, 257 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: though you already alluded to them, the La Rams. They 258 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: take on the Carolina Panthers that are all of a sudden, 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: a super hot team out of nowhere. I think everyone 260 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: had given up on Bryce Young as the quarterback for 261 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: this franchise, but clearly he looks like he belongs and 262 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: he puts up three touchdowns over two hundred passing yards 263 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: against this Rams team. And it really was Carolina's defense 264 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: that set the tone big interception. They picked off Matthew 265 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: Stafford twice in that first quarter. 266 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: When all you heard about. 267 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: Was Matthew Stafford going thirty touchdowns and two interceptions on 268 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: the season, they made life very difficult for Matthew Stafford 269 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: to come out with a huge win, especially for the 270 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: NFC West. This is a huge win for the Niners 271 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: in Seattle. Seahawks, Richard, good thoughts on this game. I 272 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: know the NFL has displayed a next level amount of 273 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: parody this season. 274 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: But did you see this one coming? No? No, I 275 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: did not see this coming before I even jumped down 276 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: that rabbit hole, because we got a lot to talk 277 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: about with that, because there's been a lot of speculation, 278 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of Rams fans and 279 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: to mentions like oh yeah, wordbust team, etc. Etc. Every 280 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: team's the best team for a little while in this 281 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: league this year. But I want to talk about the 282 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: weather conditions in Cleveland because that was a big factor 283 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: in this game. But you talked that, We talked about 284 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: the special teams. There was a muffed punt in this 285 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: game that led to a touchdown because the pup returner 286 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: dropped the ball and it was swirling, it was rain, 287 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: it was everything. And those are the games the San 288 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers usually struggle with. Those are games 289 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: that you look up and ah, man, the worst thing 290 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: that could have happened in the game, Christian McCaffrey fumbles 291 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: the ball or brought purty. It just it slips out 292 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: of his hand. With that, That's what happened the last 293 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: time they played in Cleveland, and the record Schwartz has 294 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: against Kyle Shanahan is incredible. I think this is only 295 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: Kyle's second win against Swartz overall period as a coach, 296 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: and so this is a big time win. And I 297 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: know that San Francisco forty nine Ers fans were nervous 298 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: in his game and they gotta feel good. But going 299 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: to the Rams, going to the La Rams, the world 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: beaters Mitchell with the MVP of this season at quarterback, 301 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford thirty I mean thirty touchdowns and only two 302 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: interceptions on the season coming into this game, and he struggled, 303 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: and he struggled. He threw as many interceptions in his 304 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: game as he had all season long, even including a 305 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: pick six to Michael Jackson. Not the Michael Jackson y'all 306 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: thinking of, but the Michael Jackson and Carolina who's been 307 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: as hot as Fish Grease over the last couple of weeks. 308 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: He had an interception against the San Francisco forty nine Ers, 309 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: he had a pick sick this week. He's making himself 310 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: some money, no question about it. Seems like he's found 311 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: his rhythm. But this is an opportunistic defense for the 312 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers and Matthew Stafford. You know he had his moments, 313 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: but he had three turnovers in the game, and that 314 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: was the difference in the game, his last turnover being 315 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: a fumble that Carolina recovered and never gave the ball 316 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: back to him. I think you got to give a 317 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: lot of credit to David Kanalis and this staff Egiro Evere, 318 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do with this defense and 319 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: how they continue to just press the envelope because a 320 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, kind of left Carolina for dead, 321 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, after the Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold years, 322 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: and then you draft Bryce and he struggles, and then 323 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: you five his staff You're like, Okay, Carolina, they will 324 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: see if they ever figured it out. They draft tetch 325 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Roll McMillan, and you're like, okay, maybe they got some 326 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: building blocks. But I don't think anybody saw this coming. 327 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: They're seven and six right now, just beat the number 328 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: one team in my power rankings, a team with a 329 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: number one defense, a team with Matthew Stafford playing the 330 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: best ball of his career at thirty seven years old. 331 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: And I can't really explain it. I can't explain it out. 332 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: This keeps happening in Mitchell. Bryce Young was efficient fifteen 333 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: to twenty for two oh six and three touchdowns. Like 334 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: you said, but Chubba Hubbard looked like his old self 335 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: in this game, had a receiving touchdown, seventeen carries thirty 336 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: three yards, and then ric O'dowdell. Ricodoudle has been a 337 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: godsend for this team. He's been incredibly consistent all season long, 338 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: and they've been splitting carries between him and Chubba Hubbard 339 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: all season long. But this has been phenomenal. This has 340 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. And if you look at the Saints schedule, 341 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean the Panthers schedule, they have a winnable game 342 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: coming up against the New Orleans Saints in the NFC South, 343 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: and they win that and and you're you're gonna be 344 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: scratching your head because they're gonna be in the playoff conversation. 345 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: That's everybody's in the playoff conversation right now. I don't 346 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: think I've seen a year where the NFC is so tough, 347 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: like nine and four in San Francisco's barely in. You 348 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: used to be nine and four, ten and four, and 349 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: you like you're you're thinking about resting your starters at 350 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: the end of the season, not this year, not this year. 351 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's got got eight eight at least eight wins, nine wins, 352 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: ten wins. So it's gonna be an incredible finish. Somebody's 353 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: gonna get left out of this playoffs that probably deserves 354 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: to be there. Uh And and I just don't know 355 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: how we're gonna call it, because when you see games 356 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: like this, you realize everybody can beat everybody, and every 357 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: week in the NFL it's its own unique week, it's 358 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: its own unique battle. You you almost gotta throw everything out, 359 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: throw all the stats and records out for a week 360 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: outside of a few teams, and then you just to 361 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: watch the game. Because if you would have told me 362 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: coming into this game that the Carolina Panthers would beat 363 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: the LA Rams and put up thirty one, I would 364 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: all laught you out out the build, Mitchell, no question 365 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: about that. I'm with you. 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was a layup for the Rams going 367 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: on the road, But I mean, Carolina Atlanta is a 368 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: tough place to play and they've got a lot to 369 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: play for. You mentioned that they played Saints next week, 370 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: but then they got two games against the Buccaneers down 371 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: the stretcher and they played the Seattle Seahawks. So a 372 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: team that is desperate and hungry for a win, no 373 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: one's gonna want to see him down the stretch. They 374 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: really do control their own destiny here, Richard. It's wild 375 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: to see. But like you said, there's going to be 376 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: an eleven and six team that misses a playoff this year, 377 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: which is wild. 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If 418 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: you looked at their schedule up to this game, you'd 419 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: understand why they were eight and three. Not to discount 420 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: the eight and three record, because there takes a lot 421 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: of work around the way, but there wasn't a tough 422 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: opponent that you saw that stood out in the schedule. 423 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: This was the game that I thought would set the 424 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: true bar for the Bears, and holy cow, did they 425 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: pass this test. With flying colors. Kyle Manungai, the sixth 426 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: round picker, seventh round pick out of Rutgers, has just 427 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: exploded on the scene and him couple with DeAndre Swift, 428 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: both rushing for over one hundred and twenty rush yards. Richard, 429 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: you saw it first hands. How good is this Chicago 430 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: Bears team? 431 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, let me, let me let me go down and 432 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: really really really just kill back the layers. The Eagles 433 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: got bullied in this game, they got bullied the their 434 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: defensive line, their linebackers. The Chicago made a huge emphasis 435 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: on the offensive line this offseason. They drafted, they paid, 436 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: and they traded for offensive line. They got Joe Tooney, 437 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: they got Dolmond. They were making they were gonna make 438 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: sure that Hey, they gave Caleb Williams the best possible 439 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: chance with with time in a beautiful pocket. But this 440 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: game wasn't about Caleb Williams. It was about the guys 441 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift and Kalman Nung guy and it just they 442 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: weren't being touched. At times. They were running through gaping holes. 443 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: You look and you see guys getting moved three techniques 444 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: and noses getting moved three four yards. That way. We 445 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: see d ns. We saw Jalen Phillips one time. I 446 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: thought he was in the stands Mitchell I looked up. 447 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: I said, dang is he did he buy a ticket 448 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: to the game. They were moving them. They were moving them, Mitchell. 449 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: They were moving the Philadelphia Eagles. And it did not 450 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: look like a game where there was a non playoff 451 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: team playing against the reigning defending champs. It didn't look 452 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: that way. It looked almost opposite they the Philadelphia Eagles 453 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: look disjointed on offense. And you wonder after this game, 454 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: you didn't hear anything about aj Brown complaining or or 455 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: or or saying, hey, I didn't get the ball enough 456 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: or anything like that, because he got thirteen thirteen targets, 457 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: had one hundred and something yards. They did well, but 458 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: they lost. And when you lose and you're productive, does 459 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: that feel better? Does that make you, you know, you 460 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: feel good? No, He's a competitor, so he wants to win. 461 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: So where do you go from here? I think I 462 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: think they have to take play calling duties away from 463 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Petullo. It's too big of a job for him. 464 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: He does not get it. He cannot design a run 465 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: game that's suitable for Saquon to have success. And I'm 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: not going to put it on Saquan. I'm sorry. I 467 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: we watched last year. Obviously, this isn't the same offensive line. 468 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: They've been a little banged up. Lane Johnson's banged up 469 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: right now. They said he may come back, but the 470 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: injury that he has, Liz Frank is not injury you 471 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: come back from very often. But he says he's coming back. 472 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust in lane and what he believed. They 473 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: didn't put him on I R. They don't have Makai 474 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: Beckden anymore. He went off to the Chargers to get 475 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: his money. Respect that I think it's the Chargers. Yeah, yes, 476 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: but he makes a huge difference. But schematically, they're just 477 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: too simple. They're too simple and at times they don't 478 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: have answers. When when you got plays where you see 479 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams in the three technique and you're running counter 480 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, we probably don't want to run 481 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: this play with him in the three technique. You probably 482 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: should should should can can or audible out of it, 483 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: but you can't because that's not in there. That's not 484 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: in there. You can't kill can can, You can't kill 485 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: the play and then go somewhere else. And I think 486 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: that's the issue this year. They're running into they're running 487 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: into situations where they're outmanned and they don't have enough 488 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: guys to block the team that they're trying the way 489 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: they're trying to run. Sometimes they have three blockers and 490 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: there's four defenders there and you look at that play 491 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, how do you expect Sakuan to have 492 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: a chance right here? You don't even have enough blockers 493 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: to give him a chance. You're saying he has to 494 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: break a tackle here just to have success. And when 495 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: you see that consistently, consistently, it it leaves you to say, Okay, 496 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: say Quan may have his issues, maybe he lost his step, 497 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: whatever you feel, but there's something wrong with this scheme 498 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: and they got to get that corrected. And Sirianni is 499 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: an offensive mine. He's an offensive coach. I know he 500 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: has say so in these meetings. Maybe he needs to 501 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: take control again of this offense so that it can 502 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: it can function like he knows is capable of. We 503 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: know Jalen Hurts can play the quarterback position at a 504 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: high level at times. We know that he's at multiple 505 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: Super Bowls where he threw for over three hundred yards. 506 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: Let him go. Stop stop feeling like you just have 507 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: to play this RBO game all game long in its 508 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: most predictable nature. Hey, AJ Brown's on the left, it's 509 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: a go route. Like if everybody else can tell, hey, 510 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: when he's at this split, when it's here, when he's here, 511 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: when it's here, if everybody else casually watching the game 512 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: can say, hey, we probably know the route or the 513 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: play coming here. That's not a good play. But that's 514 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: not a good offense. And no matter how good your 515 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: players are, they're not going to be able to have 516 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: success playing that way. Their defenses, that's their only job 517 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: is to study this to the point that they understand 518 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: it as well as the team they're playing, so that 519 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: they can stop it. And that's what teams are doing. 520 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't feel like the Philadelphia Eagles are a great 521 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: team right now. You know, they're great that they're a 522 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: great collection of players, but they're not a great team, 523 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. 524 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: Richard. To compare it to a boxing match. They've been 525 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: winning by decision, you know, all season long. They really 526 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: have knocked out any of their opponents, and they were 527 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: living on that edge, and they finally got caught with 528 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: a haymaker and that was the Chicago Bears that just 529 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: put him out. They keep playing like this. I don't 530 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: see how they defend their title in this playoffs. I mean, 531 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: they're scheduled down the stretch is not all that tough. 532 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna have a problem coming out 533 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: with the division in their hands, you know. But they 534 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: they do play the Chargers, they do play the Raiders, 535 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Commanders and Bills, and then the Commanders again. So you know, 536 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: if they don't show up against the Chargers and they 537 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: fall flat against the Bills, you better watch out for 538 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: these Dallas cowboys, man, because they're as red hot as 539 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: it gets. And I know they come to Detroit on Thursday. 540 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be there, but Philly better turn 541 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: it on quick otherwise maybe maybe this division will be 542 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: up for grabs. 543 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: And what's what's remarkable about that? And we're gonna dive 544 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole that may not ever come to fruition. 545 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: But they can miss the playoffs, like it doesn't take 546 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: a ton. It doesn't take a ton for you to 547 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs right now, Like two losses, you find 548 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: two losses somewhere in there, all of a sudden, if 549 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: you're not the division winner, it's not no guarantees that 550 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: you're in this playoff. And that's how tough the NFC 551 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: is right now. It's And so I don't think that 552 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: the Eagles missed the playoffs, but it's a lot closer 553 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: than you want to would think. I'm right there with you. 554 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: And then in terms of in terms of the Bears, 555 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: you know, their schedule gets a lot tougher down these 556 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: last five games of the season. They're at the Packers, 557 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: They're at home against the Browns, They're at home against 558 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: the against the Packers, then on the road against the Niners, 559 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: and then they host the Lions to finish the season. 560 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Off. 561 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: There's four games that really stand out to me here. 562 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: I know they took it to the Eagles, but if 563 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: they want this one seed, they got to take care 564 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: of business against their division foes. Now the Packers are looming, 565 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: and they're looming large. They took care of my Detroit 566 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: Lions on Thanksgiving, Richard, and we'll talk about that game next. 567 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: Because I was there and I was devastated. I thought 568 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: this Detroit Lions team would at some point wake up, 569 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: much like this Philadelphia Eagles team. You see the Lions, 570 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: you know, survive an absolute scare at home against the 571 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: New York Giants, and you say, Okay, maybe that's the 572 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: wake up call they need. They didn't take the loss. 573 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: They were able to rally together and pull this one 574 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: off in dramatic fashion. But then you watch it. As 575 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: this game starts, the Packers jump out to a ten 576 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: to nothing lead like it's nothing. Detroit generates no pressure 577 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: on on Jordan Love all the game. He throws for 578 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 2: four touchdowns to you know, a bunch of wide receiver 579 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: twos Wix is a huge game, Christian Watson goes off. 580 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: You know, all this with the Lions having one of 581 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: the biggest struggles that they have is their interior offensive line. Richard, 582 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: I think they're out. Their offensive tackles are two of 583 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: the best in the league, but they're middle three of 584 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: that old line that's gotta be one of the worst, 585 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: if not the worst interior o Lions in the league. 586 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: And they've just been getting wrecked up the middle for 587 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: the last what four or five games ever since the 588 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: Vikings game. 589 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: And I just don't know what is ever gonna change. 590 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: To renew this faith that I have in the Detroit Lions, because, 591 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: like I just said, they got Dallas coming to town 592 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: on Thursday. They're gonna have to get this thing right immediately. 593 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Well, I think that the thing that can give you 594 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: hope is Janison Williams is coming into his own. Jamiir 595 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: Gibbs continues to be incredibly explosive. I know, I know 596 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: that you were looking for uh rag now to come 597 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: in and and and give you oh yeah, that that. 598 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, it's hard to come off 599 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: that couch picture. It's tough. It's tough coming off that couch. 600 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: You putty, come off that couch and you ain't ready 601 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: hamstring toll off the bone. That's tough. But I think 602 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: offensively they're fine. I think the defensive side of the 603 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: ball is whin. All the concern is some of it's 604 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: in that secondary. They were giving up a lot of 605 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: plays and Kelln Shephard. You can't just sit there and 606 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: play man all day. You can't like these are twos 607 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, receiver twos. But still you can't just sit 608 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: there and play man to man all day long. It's lazy. 609 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: It's lazy defensive coordinating. And I'll keep saying that when 610 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: you just because all the onus is on the players 611 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: in that position, the heart you're putting all the onus. Hey, 612 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: you guys got a hard job, and I'm gonna make 613 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: you do a hard job all day. I'm not gonna 614 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: make my job hard and say, hey, I gotta figure 615 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: out when they're when they're on first down, in first 616 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: down situations, when they're in nickel, I mean when they're 617 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: in uh eleven personnel. What I need to call to 618 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: put you in the best position? Is it three? Is 619 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: that gonna be tough on them? Is it two? Do 620 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: I bring pressure with side? Do I bring pressure? How 621 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: do I manipulate the offensive line? Et cetera, et cetera. 622 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: You just say, hey, play man, and then when it 623 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: doesn't go, you say they didn't cover them well enough, 624 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: Like that's lazy. You got to you gotta be more 625 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: creative defensively. That's what I hate that, I really it's 626 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: it's it drives me crazy because it takes more. It 627 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: takes more football IQ to game plan without saying, hey, 628 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave you guys in man all day, 629 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: because all the fans are gonna say, is ug beach 630 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: keep getting beat man? We sucked. It's like, no, it's not. 631 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: It's not that simple. They're not. They're being tasked with 632 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: a hard job. It's hard to guard receivers one on 633 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: one in the National Football League period. It's dang short 634 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: hard to guard them every play. But again, they gotta 635 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: they gotta figure out that balance. And and maybe these 636 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: guys aren't great at zone. Maybe that's that's the reason 637 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: they're doing it. Maybe it's more to it than than 638 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm giving credit. But I think the lack of pass 639 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: rush also is a concern. But you guys knew that 640 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: coming into the season, and they didn't address it. You know, 641 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: you didn't go get a Preston Smith again, you didn't. 642 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: You didn't call the guys and you haven't called them yet. 643 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: There's always pass rushers out there, Mitchell that those are 644 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: people that come off the couch. They're training year round 645 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: because they know it takes one injury and a pass 646 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: rusher can find himself on a Super Bowl team with 647 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: a ring on his finger. If you stay in shape 648 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: and you can get to that quarterback, you'll have a job, 649 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: especially after week week thirteen, fourteen fifteen, where it's not 650 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna count against the camp in that way, I don't worry. 651 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: They'll pick you up. They'll pick you up. Then playoff 652 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: checks don't count the same. But I just don't know 653 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: if the Detroit Lions have enough defensively to survive the 654 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: way they need to. Especially this division continues to be 655 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: a gauntlet. It continues to be a gauntlet. Last year 656 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: it was Minnesota, you know, going crazy with fourteen wins. 657 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: This year, the Bears are surprising you and running away 658 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: with the division. You got to keep up, and in 659 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: order to keep up, it has to be the pass rush. 660 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: And unless they find that somewhere in a miraculous way, 661 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: I'll let you know how I go this weekend Detroit, Mitchell, 662 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: how It'll be there. 663 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: You'll be there, I will I will be there, and 664 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys will be there as well. And we 665 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: saw another thriller on Thanksgiving. These Dallas Cowboys continue to shock. 666 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm getting less surprised though as I'm watching them, Richard, 667 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: because I think they just might be that good. We 668 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: saw this pairing of George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb coming 669 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 2: into the season, and we said, how the heck is 670 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: that gonna work? It seems cool in theory, but I 671 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: don't know if this is going to pay off. And 672 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: then you see Michaeh Parsons getting dealt and then we 673 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: see Quinn Williams coming in at the deadline. 674 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Maybe, just maybe Jerry Jones knew what he was doing. 675 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: Maybe he thought this team needed a little bit of 676 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: an identity shake up, you know, some fresh faces in 677 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: the clubhouse, if you will. And my goodness, George Pickens 678 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: has had a heck of a year and they've catapulted 679 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys into a team that is a much 680 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: watched must watch TV in my opinion. What was your 681 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: thoughts about this game? Dallas taking down the Kansas City 682 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: Chiefs thirty one to twenty eight. 683 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: It was a huge win for Dallas and it was 684 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: a devastating loss for the Kansas City Chiefs because, and 685 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: going back to Michael Parsons, he played fantastic against the 686 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Detroit Liance too. No question of the three sacks. Let's 687 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: let's not act like he's not going out there and 688 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: having a great, great season. I think he's the first 689 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: player in NFL history to have his twelve and a 690 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: half sacks in each of his first five season. I 691 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: think the Green Bay Packers are perfectly fine with how 692 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: that went for them. On the other side, I don't 693 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: know if I'm willing to say Jerry think Jerry's right. 694 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they pick up Jadeveon Clowney off the streets. 695 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: He gets two and a half two sacks in that game. 696 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: But Quinn William and Kenny Clark they're gonna be impact players. 697 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna be forceful in the run game. 698 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: Quinn's been impactful in the past game putting pressure in 699 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: the interior, and they haven't had that in a while. 700 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: But again, these other guys are starting to develop and 701 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: they're starting to become the guy that they expected. And 702 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: maybe they maybe they knew that. Maybe they knew they 703 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: had these guys in the fold, they knew what they 704 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: would become. They saw flashes during training camp or something. Sure, 705 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: I'll accept that. Also, the Kansas City Chiefs are not 706 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: what the Kansas City Chiefs have been. Sure. Patrick Mahomes 707 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: had four touchdowns in his game. He had two hundred 708 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: and sixty one yards passing twenty three or thirty four. 709 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: He's getting it done, but it didn't look like the 710 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: way you expected to look for Ceedee Lamb to go 711 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: seven for one to twelve against the Spags defense. It's different. 712 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Dark Prescott is playing at as at as high of 713 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: a level as he's played. I'm sure he's had He's 714 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: had a couple games where he struggled this season, but 715 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: in the biggest games he's played really well. And he 716 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: played well this game, throwing for three twenty two touchdowns. 717 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: He did have the one interception Javonte Williams continues, I think, 718 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: I think Shot he's doing a great job of scheming 719 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: up this run game in a real way. He's scheming 720 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: up this run game. You see, there's gaping holes and 721 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: he's finding himself in the second and third level the 722 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: defense pretty consistently, and he's doing a great job with that. 723 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: But the Kansas City Chiefs got some some some real 724 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: self evaluating the dude. Obviously, you knew eventually it had 725 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: to come to an end. Going to the Super Bowl 726 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: five of the last six years. Eventually there's gonna be 727 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: a down year. So does this mean, ah, Man, finally 728 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: the Chiefs it's over it. I don't know. I don't 729 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: know if it's over. You know, I know that it's 730 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: very exhausting to go to Super Bowl five of the 731 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: last six years. I know that's exhausting. Every off season 732 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: is a short one for them. They're They're off season 733 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: doesn't start till February, till til March. You know, after February, 734 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: some guys are booking. Some guys already have that vacations 735 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: booked right now. They know, Hey, January fourteenth, we're gonna 736 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: be in Cabo. Are we gonna be in Cancun. Are 737 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: we gonna be in Tahiti? You know with a martini? 738 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You're gonna be in Hawaii 739 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: with the tie. But not the Kansas City Chiefs Kansa 740 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs have not been able to book vacation plans in 741 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: January for some time. This might be a year. Wouldn't 742 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: that be a shock. 743 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 2: The one blessing that they do have is the AFC, 744 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: unlike the NFC, is a little bit more open. I 745 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: think that Kansas City Chiefs can put together a run 746 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: here and still get in with six to seven losses 747 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: on the scout on the scoreboard. But there is a 748 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: cause for concern, no question. This does not look like 749 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: the same Chiefs team. It took him a while to 750 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: get their offense rolling until they got Rashi Rice back. 751 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: You thought that that. 752 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: Was the bump that they needed to get him over 753 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: the finish line here. But I don't know, Richard. This 754 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: last loss on Thanksgiving and then they go and play 755 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: the Texans, who I don't think anyone wants to play 756 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: right now, Richard. That defense, we already talked about it, 757 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: but that defense has just turned into an absolute force, 758 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: and they brought it to Indianapolis today, But we'll see 759 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: how things shake out for the Kansas City Chiefs. Let's 760 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: turn our focus here a bit to the NFC South. 761 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers fended off the Arizona Cardinals twenty 762 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 2: to seventeen. Baker Mayfield was questionable heading to this game 763 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: with a shoulder injury. He comes out throw us from 764 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 2: almost two hundred yards and a touchdown, Richard, your thoughts 765 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: on this Buccaneers team. They needed to win desperately, they've 766 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: been struggling of late. They improved the seven and five 767 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: leaders in this division with the Carolina Panthers nipping at 768 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: their heels. 769 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this game, Well, they did enough to 770 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: win the game. You know, the Arizona Cardinals have not 771 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: been great this season. They've struggled mightily, so to even 772 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: see this game as close as it was, but you 773 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: got to give the Tampa Bay Buccaneers credit. Traveling across 774 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: the country playing Arizona Cardinals again to Gooby Brissett continues 775 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: to show why he could possibly be a starter, Why 776 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: they made the decision to you know, Kyler Murray got hurt. 777 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: But Kyler Murray, they said, hey, Kyler Golic just we 778 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind take your time. Yeah, go on our A 779 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: call of duty's out, the new call of dude, Call 780 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: of duty Block Ops seven out. Make your time. Maybe 781 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: explore baseball. I don't know, you can do whatever you like, 782 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: but we're gonna We're gonna go with Jakobe right now. 783 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: And you can see why. Twenty nine forty three oh 784 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: one a touchdown the interception. Sure, he's had some struggles 785 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: of the game, but that's NFL quality caliber, NFL caliber 786 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: quarterback play, and Baker Mayfield did enough to win this game. 787 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: He was eighteen to twenty eight and one ninety four touchdown. 788 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: Bucky Irvins seventeen carries for sixty one yards in the touchdown, 789 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin finally got getting back into the fold and 790 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: getting involved. The defense got two sacks in the interception. 791 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: So sure, sure, Dampa Bay Buccaneers are finding a way 792 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: to win against Arizona Cardinals. I'm not sure that's a 793 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: quality win that makes you feel great, But you're an 794 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: NFC South and at the end of the day, they've 795 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: won the NFC South four straight years and looking for 796 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: a fifth straight year. They got this. A lot of 797 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: NFC South games coming up. They got the Saints Falcons Panthers, 798 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: and then they got the Dolphins, who've been playing better 799 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: as of late, and then the Panthers again. So this 800 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: this division will be determined down the stretch as it 801 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: usually is. Can the Carolina Panthers beat the Tampa Bay 802 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: Buccaneers in one of those two games when they played 803 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: in two of the last three weeks the final they 804 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: play him twice in the final three games, I believe, right, 805 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: and then the car the Cardinals have the Rams, and 806 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: I would expect the Rams to win that game, but 807 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: as we found out in this league, you can't expect anything. 808 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: I would expect the Rams to win that game as well, 809 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: but who knows? 810 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: Who knows. 811 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 2: Let's talk more in depth about this Houston Texans team. 812 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 2: We've alluded to them all podcasts, and they just knocked 813 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 2: off the Indianapolis Colts, who now fall to eight and four. 814 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: They were once number one in your power ranks, weren't they, Richard? 815 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: Yes? 816 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: And now they have fallen in The Texans now seven 817 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: and five and out far behind this division. Let's be 818 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: real here, it's the Jags, it's the Texans. It's called 819 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: it's a tight battle here. What do you credit this 820 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: most to this turnaround, because it seemed like this was 821 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 2: gonna be a lost season based on the start. 822 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: I credited to just stability. Accredited to stability, and sometimes 823 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: you just have a rough start to the season. And 824 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: I think Demiko Ryan's giving up, uh, defensive play calling 825 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: duties and and just Folk going to the offensive side 826 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out what's going on, what's what's 827 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: what's holding us back? Obviously they they lost a big 828 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: time tackle on Jeremie Tounzul and you know, you gotta 829 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: they're doing a little bit of of of you know, 830 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: uh around shuffling, shuffling on the offensive line. What he 831 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: marks has has developed into their lead back. They started 832 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: the year thinking Nick Chubb will be the lead back, 833 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: and he's still getting his carries, but sometimes he takes 834 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: a second. And then Nico Collins is getting starting to, 835 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: you know, play like he's capable of playing. C J. 836 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: Stroud was struggling early on, and I think he was 837 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: struggling to see it and and offensive coordinator getting on 838 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: the same page. And I think he's gotten more of 839 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: a voice and and and Demiko has done a great 840 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: job of just making sure he has conversations with offensive coordinator. 841 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: He feels comfortable saying, hey, this is what I like 842 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: to do, and you see it's it's starting to manifest itself. 843 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: But I think the other side of the ball is 844 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: why they've really been in it. They've been dominant. They've 845 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: been really dominant in each every phase of the game. 846 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: I think they're number one and number two against the 847 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: pass and number one and number two against the run 848 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: uh in the league, you know, And that's where they've 849 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: been succeeding. They got an incredible secondary, they got an 850 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: incredible uh D line, and they got my my guy 851 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: Z's al sha here in the middle of that defense 852 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: commanding it. And so it's one of the best defensive 853 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: talent wise in the National Football League. I remember we 854 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: had them a couple of weeks ago and and they 855 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: they just dominated. I mean it was it was Will Anderson, 856 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 1: it was Kaylin Bullocks, uh it was it was Danil Hunter, 857 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: it was just it was Kamari Lassiter, it was everybody 858 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 1: and it And then you you say all those names 859 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: and you don't say Derek stingly because nobody's messing with 860 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley out there. They tried to it was an 861 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: incomplete almostly almost a big play, but incomplete. But they 862 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: they're starting to believe that they can be a special 863 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: team starting the season. Oh and three, there aren't many 864 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: teams that make the playoffs. But nobody, like you said, 865 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: nobody wants to play the Texans right now. And they're 866 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: going to play the struggling Kansas City Chiefs in their 867 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: next game. And I and again, Mahomes has been hit, 868 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: he's been sacked and in these games. And they just 869 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 1: lost their their I believe they lost their their tackle 870 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: last week. And so they're gonna have to play Jalen 871 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: Moore coming up, and and Hylan Moore's fine backup tackle, 872 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: swing tackle in this league. But you're going against Daniel 873 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: Hunter and Will Anderson. That's a long day for anybody. Well, 874 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned Derek Stanley Junior. 875 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 2: This is he did not allow a single reception today 876 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: on twenty eight coverage snaps. This is a fifth game 877 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 2: the season that he has allowed less than ten yards 878 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: in coverage. Richard, those are stats that used to throw 879 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 2: up next to your name when you were playing my man. 880 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: This just goes to show you how good he is 881 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: and how good of a cornerback he has developed to 882 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 2: be in this league. On the other side, the Colts, 883 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: who once were the hottest team in the NFL, have 884 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: cooled off dramatically. We find out that Indiana Jones, Daniel 885 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 2: Jones has been playing with a fractured fibula. You know, 886 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 2: that's a big deal. I mean, it's obviously gonna catch 887 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: up to you at some point. It looks like it 888 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: might have. I know, they were going up against the 889 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: top tier defense, but this is the first time they've 890 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 2: been held under twenty points all season. How much concern 891 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 2: is there for you in Indianapolis? 892 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: A lot of concern. I don't know how serious. You know, 893 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 1: when when you say a fractured fibula, it just sounds 894 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: so severe, But you know there are stress, fracture, stress reaction. 895 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: There's different levels of things. But obviously Daniel Jones is 896 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: an incredibly tough player. But do you see how how 897 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: how much an NFL season in a team's future, in 898 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: a team's uh destiny can be on the edge of 899 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: a knife, because if they lose Daniel Jones and and 900 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, they'll go back to Anthony Richardson and then 901 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: people have a lot different feeling about the Indianapolis Colts. 902 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: You don't feel great about it. You don't feel great 903 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: about them winning this division at all, even with the 904 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: lead they have. And so Daniel Jones feels like he 905 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: has to, like he's playing for a contract in his career, 906 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But if you're playing already with 907 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: a stress fracture, there usually means you're It usually means 908 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: you're compensating in some other way, you know, whether it's 909 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: your hips, your your glutes, your et cetera. And that's 910 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: when you start to see strain muscles and pull muscles 911 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: and knock on wood. You don't want to see that 912 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones, but that's the fear when you start 913 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: to have an injury like that and you know that 914 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: you have to compensate. Thank you, thank thankfully, this offensive 915 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: line kept him relatively clean this game. I mean, he 916 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: only got sacked once, so you you hope that can 917 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: continue in that he's not getting sacked a ton, he's 918 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: not getting hit a ton. But it's something to watch 919 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: because if he goes down for even a couple games, 920 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: this season can fall apart, no question about it. 921 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 2: Next up, they got the Jags, who you know took 922 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: care of business against the lowly Titans this week, but 923 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 2: nonetheless another divisional game against a team that's got a 924 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: very good record as well, that is firmly in the 925 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: necks for this division. The Bills just knocked off the 926 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, who have been reeling. They fall to six 927 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 2: and six. The Buffalo Bills go on the road, get 928 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: a convincing win. Josh Allen, with a nice rushing touchdown, 929 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: got shoved in by his entire old line. You know, 930 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 2: whether it was an issue today, we didn't see a 931 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 2: ton of a ton of in the air. We saw 932 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: a ton of James Cook though thirty two carries for 933 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four yards. Richard, Is it safe 934 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 2: to say the Pittsburgh Steelers are done this season? 935 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: Is it safe to say they're done? No, because of 936 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: what you said earlier. You know, the AFC isn't like 937 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: the NFC right now, So there's a lot of chaos. 938 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: There's a lot a lot of things that are left 939 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: to are gonna have to happen for them to get 940 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: put out. But yeah, you don't. You don't see a 941 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of hope right now because their their defense has 942 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: been inconsistent. They've had games where they've played like at 943 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: a really high level. There's been games where you you 944 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: question all the decisions they made this offseason. So with 945 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers potentially being out for for the foreseeable future, 946 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: who knows, who knows? Because the offense was stagnant even 947 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: with him in the vote, the offense was stagnant. So 948 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 1: without him, you you you you go to Cayl Rudolph 949 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: and you know he's just not at the same level 950 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 1: and he doesn't get the same respect, and it's maybe 951 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: the end of the row fair because he you know, 952 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: father time catches up to everybody. It's undefeated, and these 953 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: injuries are injuries you expect for a guy over forty 954 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 1: years old in the National Football League. You know, he's 955 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: getting banged up. This offensive line isn't the best in 956 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: the National Football League. So the the Buffalo Bills did 957 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: what they needed to do to win. Josh Allen did 958 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: what he needed to do to win this game. But 959 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are are are skating o thin ice. 960 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel great about any team in the AFC 961 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: right now. Again, we thought the Colts were the class 962 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: at AFC. They've lost a few games since then. The 963 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: only team that's really been dominant and and feels like 964 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: they can make a case clearly the best team is 965 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, and nobody would have said that 966 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: before the season started. 967 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: It's a wild proclamation, but it's certainly looking like it 968 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: might be true. You also forgot about the Denver Broncos, 969 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 2: who have only got two losses, but we shall see 970 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 2: they've been flirting with losses all season long, Richard. Before 971 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 2: we wrap up this game, Josh Allen's touchdown was rushing touchdown, 972 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 2: with the seventy sixth of his career. That's the most 973 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 2: of any QB in NFL history. He has certainly made 974 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: his mark on this league with his style of play. 975 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: Next up for the Bills, they play the Bengals, who 976 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: now have Joe Burrow at the helm, and then the 977 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,439 Speaker 2: Patriots and the follow by the Browns. The Steelers next 978 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 2: week have the Ravens. Speaking of those Bengals in Joe Burrow, 979 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 2: who saw this one coming. Thanksgiving Day for Baltimore fans 980 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 2: was not fun. 981 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: I can imagine. 982 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 2: Thirty two to fourteen final. Joe Burrow came in a 983 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 2: interviewed the pre game basically said, hey, you guys are 984 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 2: all but a mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Why'd you 985 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 2: come back? And he just said, I signed a big contract, 986 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 2: I'm here to win. And that's what they did. They 987 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 2: took it to the Baltimore ra And kudos to Joe 988 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 2: Burrow for coming back playing through pain. What did you 989 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 2: think of what you saw from Joe Burrow and the 990 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: Bengals on Thursday. 991 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: Well, you saw some rust early, but eventually he knocked 992 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: it off and he looked like that Joe Burrow. He's 993 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: still not the Joe Burrow Vold because there's still some 994 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: pain in that toe out I could imagine. But the 995 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: rapport between him and Jamar Chase is still there. You know, 996 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: they're able to score points. There are thirty two points, 997 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: but they were scoring points with Joe Flakau. The concerning 998 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: part of this game was the Ravens and Lamar Jackson 999 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: and how he struggled. The Bengals defense has been abysmal 1000 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: all season long. They've been awful. They've been a door 1001 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: mat They've been a revolving door of touchdowns, field goals 1002 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,720 Speaker 1: and points. Every time you look up that the Bengals 1003 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: have scored a lot of points, but the other team 1004 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: has scored a little more and for them to hold 1005 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, who were before the season started considered 1006 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender with an MVP candidate at quarterback, 1007 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry at running back and you felt really good 1008 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: about him to being beat by the four and eight Bengals, 1009 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 1: especially when you're in desperation mode. You're in desperation mode. 1010 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: You could potentially make these playoffs, you could potentially win 1011 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: this division now with the with the Pittsburgh Steelers struggling, 1012 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: the Browns out of it, the Bengals out of it, 1013 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: Like now's your chance to make a moved move and 1014 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: you lose by eighteen points to the to the Cincinnati Bengals. 1015 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: That's that's concern. That's when the concern level goes up. 1016 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: You wonder what's going on with Lamar Jackson. He had 1017 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 1: three turnovers in this game and that's what really cost 1018 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: this team the game. Like what what is what is 1019 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: going on? Because this I don't know if this is 1020 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: Russ because he's been playing for a couple of weeks. 1021 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: Is it is it just you know, him taking a 1022 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,919 Speaker 1: step back. Is it just you know, maybe it's something 1023 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: going on at home. I don't know what it is, 1024 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: but we've rarely seen Lamar Jackson play this way. Hopefully 1025 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: he's able to bounce back again next week against the 1026 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, a game that that could def decide who's 1027 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: at the top of this division. The Bengals have a 1028 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: game against the Bulls and we'll see if they want 1029 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: to play defense for another week. And again, we don't 1030 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: know what's going on in this league. I'm not gonna 1031 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: be one trying to predict it this year. 1032 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 2: Well, the Bengals still are not mathematically eliminated in this division, 1033 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 2: so crazy things could happen. Joe Burrow, they run the table. 1034 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe it is their division. We shall see. 1035 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: All odds and lines come from our partners at hard 1036 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: Rock Bet. We've got the Giants at the Patriots on 1037 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football tomorrow. Hard Rock Bet has the Patriots 1038 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: as a seven point spread in this game. I think 1039 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,760 Speaker 1: that's about right. You know, you never know if Jackson 1040 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: Dart's coming back with a little bit of rust, how 1041 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to maneuver in this offense. The 1042 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 1: Patriots have a rock solid plan. You know they're gonna 1043 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: be prepared to play you know Mike Rapel is gonna 1044 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: have those boys raring to go. They're feeling good, they're confident, 1045 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: they're at home. They they're hard to beat and Gillette 1046 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: and so I feel like this seven point spread is 1047 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 1: the perfect number for this team. I feel like they're 1048 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: gonna cover. 1049 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: You know, Richard, I think they're gonna win. I don't 1050 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,720 Speaker 2: think they're gonna cover, though, I've seen enough from Jackson 1051 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 2: Dart to become a huge believer in him. I would 1052 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: love for him to be my franchise quarterback. New York 1053 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 2: Giants fans have got to be thrilled. I think with 1054 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 2: him at the helmet's gonna be a high scoring affair. 1055 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 2: We'll see if their defense can keep them in it, 1056 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 2: because I know the Pats are gonna be putting up 1057 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: points too. But I have the Pats covering. I'm sorry 1058 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 2: the Pats winning, but the Giants covering that spread. I 1059 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: also have got three players who I think are gonna 1060 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: be anytime touchdown scores. Stefan Diggs who's been hot lately, 1061 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,720 Speaker 2: Romandre Stevenson fresh fresh legs coming back from injury last week, 1062 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 2: and then finally Jackson Dart. 1063 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: Those are my picks I love it Richard. 1064 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure sitting down with you here every 1065 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 2: and this concludes our podcast for week thirteen. 1066 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: I will let you sign us off, my friend. The 1067 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: season's been flying by, and you guys have been sticking 1068 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: with us the whole time. We appreciate you as always. 1069 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: You could be anywhere in the world, but you hear 1070 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: with us and we surely do appreciate it all. 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