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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off now

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Speaker 2: much to discuss decline in Biden. He's not able to

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Speaker 2: be hiding the same way that he used to. People

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Speaker 2: are seeing what's going on more and more. We shall

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Speaker 2: discuss that. But first, I just thought this was so interesting.

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Speaker 2: There is a rise in the availability of simple artificial

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Speaker 2: intelligence technology out there that allows you to do some

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Speaker 2: pretty amazing stuff. You can have a very mechanically written

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Speaker 2: essay pumped out almost instantaneously on something that would have

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Speaker 2: been fun when I was in seventh grade English class.

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Speaker 2: You have just kidding I would I would never want

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Speaker 2: that for any of the young people listening. Don't ever

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Speaker 2: take the shortcuts. Do all of the work. Algebra is

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Speaker 2: essential for your life. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Do they still say, how like the spark Notes and

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Speaker 1: the cliff Notes in the same way.

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Speaker 3: Those online online. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember that it was a study tool where they

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Speaker 2: would sell that in bookstores, the cliff Notes study tool,

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Speaker 2: And some of.

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Speaker 1: You out there probably told your parents, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: just a supplement. I just want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: I'm not missing anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to be fully enriched in this reading

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Speaker 2: of Catcher in the Rye without actually reading it, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the whole That's what the spark Notes

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Speaker 2: cliff Notes world could do for you. And I love

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Speaker 2: that they even had a warning on it. It was like,

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Speaker 2: don't don't use this instead of reading the book. You're

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Speaker 2: giving your precious years in order to get an education.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of the students who were

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Speaker 2: trying to cram the night before exams or whatever thought

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Speaker 2: to themselves, oh well, if they say I shouldn't do it,

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Speaker 2: maybe I should get back to reading it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: AI tools now are all over the place. You can

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Speaker 2: do some pretty fun have you. Have you experimented it

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Speaker 2: all with AI tools? Play just for fun, like try

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Speaker 2: to see if you could what would Clay Travis winning

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl look like?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And you turns you into have you? No, I haven't

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Speaker 1: actually gone on and looked at it at all? You

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Speaker 1: have you just kind of played around with a tiny bit.

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Speaker 1: I tried chat GPT to see what that was like.

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Speaker 2: And I'm somebody who's I admit this that I'm by

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Speaker 2: no means, even particularly technically inclined. I think all the

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Speaker 2: stuff about how artificial intelligence is going to turn into

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Speaker 2: something akin to the Skynet machine from Terminator, and that

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Speaker 2: the machines could destroy us all, I think that's a

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Speaker 2: little overblown.

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Speaker 3: But I've even thought about it.

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Speaker 1: Sorrady cut you off, but I have thought about it

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Speaker 1: in the context of our show, and even in the

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Speaker 1: context of a lot of you out there listen to

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Speaker 1: Rush for over thirty years. What's a little bit scary

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Speaker 1: to me is, let's say something happens to us. Rush

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Speaker 1: is obviously passed, but something happens to us down the line.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they could put all of the audio

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Speaker 1: from us, because you could basically have us saying every

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Speaker 1: word under the sun fifteen hours a week, and say,

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Speaker 1: have Clay and or Buck talk about you know something

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen in twenty fifty based on what

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Speaker 1: we've said in the past. To try to create a

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Speaker 1: new version of a show, right, Rush talk for thirty

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Speaker 1: three years, there is a.

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Speaker 3: Consistency.

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Speaker 1: I would argue to the things that he would say,

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Speaker 1: could you take what he has said about past issues

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Speaker 1: and try to create a new version. Commenting on real life.

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Speaker 1: He says this area, right, I mean, you know, human the.

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Speaker 2: AI can't do creativity and improvisation and these things the

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Speaker 2: way that human beings can.

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Speaker 3: That's just the bottom line, right.

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Speaker 2: AI doesn't have weird moments like we hear on this show.

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Speaker 2: For example, how much time do we spend talking about

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Speaker 2: whether Clay could have a dental hygienist who is a guy?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: He got very deep into that conversation, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: maybe we should talk about the inflation data, which is

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Speaker 2: publing for the economy. He's like, hold on a second, buck,

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Speaker 2: you want a dude with his fingers in the.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about that during the break.

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Speaker 1: I think the reason there's no male hygienis is men's

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Speaker 1: That I was thinking about this while I was going

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you watch enough Seinfeld, you will know

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Speaker 2: that some ladies have man hands. It's a thing, and

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Speaker 2: they're probably not dental hygienis. That's probably true as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, So AI is all over the place, and

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Speaker 2: it's happening more and more where you'll see something and

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Speaker 2: it's for parody.

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Speaker 3: Purposes.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, right, because you can you can use it

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Speaker 2: to you know, if you used an AI machine, you

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Speaker 2: could have I don't know, Nancy Pelosi drinking chardonnay and

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Speaker 2: insider trading while cackling about, you know, the lower classes

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Speaker 2: and how they're going to be stuck on this wheel

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Speaker 2: of poverty forever. And it will make well and that

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Speaker 2: would just be a photo of Nancy Pelosi, but it

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Speaker 2: could make you some image that would show you Nancy

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Speaker 2: Pelosi and it would be taking into account those instructions, right,

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Speaker 2: that's the way it works. So the the companies had

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Speaker 2: the big AI companies in San Francisco, they're not banning it.

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Speaker 3: This just happened, but they are.

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Speaker 2: Trying to come up with guidelines about what the markings

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Speaker 2: will be on it, how they'll identify AI content. Because

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Speaker 2: here's where this is all going. There's gonna be stuff

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Speaker 2: out there that looks because this stuff it used to

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Speaker 2: be like you could see, you know, with what's that

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Speaker 2: someone's head on something else, it didn't look quite right.

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Speaker 2: And with some of this AI stuff now you really

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Speaker 2: can't tell. And that ability to look at something and

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Speaker 2: say this has been messed with, forged, faked.

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Speaker 3: Remember where a big deal it was for.

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Speaker 2: The Bush, the Bush administration when he was running what

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Speaker 2: was this in two thousand and four, right against John

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Speaker 2: Kerry and Dan Rather had the forged National Guard documents.

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Speaker 3: Right, you try to do that to this now. I mean,

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Speaker 3: anybody can.

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Speaker 2: Come up with forged National Guard documents to try to

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Speaker 2: It's so easy to make this stuff. And so On

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Speaker 2: the one hand, Clay, I'm worried about the actual weaponization

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Speaker 2: of the technology. For dare I say disinformation purposesn't But

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Speaker 2: just because the left is obsessed with disinformation that isn't

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Speaker 2: think is important to remind people that's a real thing.

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Speaker 2: They say, Joe Biden, can you know, tie his own shoes?

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of disinformation out there. But Clay, the other

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Speaker 2: part of it is too think about the ways they

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Speaker 2: can shut down now. They can just say, look what

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Speaker 2: they did to the Hunter Biden laptop. They said it

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Speaker 2: bears all the hallmarks or washing disinformation. Right, that was

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Speaker 2: the way they tried to undermine it and maybe even

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Speaker 2: helped Joe win the election, or made Joe win the

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Speaker 2: election by lying. Now, anytime you see something, if you

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Speaker 2: cash from one of Hunter's Ukrainian bagmen, you could just say,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it looks like AI to men. Prove

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Speaker 2: to me it's not Ai. And this is going to

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Speaker 2: be I think a big argument that people have over things.

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Speaker 2: They're going to just say that they're going to lie

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Speaker 2: about it, and it's going to really confuse the electorate.

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Speaker 2: I think that's right, and it's going to require a

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: It used to be like, oh well we've got a

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Speaker 1: video evidence of it, Okay, like that is legit. Now

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Speaker 1: And how do you prove it?

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Speaker 3: To your point?

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Speaker 1: Right, the Hunter Biden laptop all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Well,

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Speaker 1: anybody who looked into that at all knew that this

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Speaker 3: But if you want to believe.

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Speaker 1: That something is is fake, you always have an excuse.

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Speaker 3: You always have the issue.

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Speaker 2: You've basically created a reasonable doubt excuse for any information

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Speaker 2: your God. You can just always say, I know it

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Speaker 2: looks like AI to me, Prove to me it's not AI.

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Speaker 2: it's almost a certainty clay, which is why they have

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Speaker 2: this manifesto that the biggest tech companies in the world.

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Speaker 2: there's pressure from regulators about this, and people are saying

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Speaker 2: But this is why, you know, all along the notion

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Speaker 3: On the internet, You're never going to be able to

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Speaker 2: So what ends up happening is they create the context

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Speaker 2: for the disparate policing of what one side doesn't want

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Speaker 2: And that's how we got the twenty twenty election, right,

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Speaker 2: That's how we got shutting you know, Twitter saying that

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Speaker 2: it was hacked material all this stuff. It was essentially

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Speaker 2: a fix. So I know, we don't talk about AI

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Speaker 2: range of businesses are It's truly enormous. Nvidia is one

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Speaker 2: some others, but I'm just saying it's a huge company.

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Speaker 3: And this is going, like we know, this is going

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Speaker 2: This is coming down the pike, and honestly, Clay, do

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Speaker 2: you have I don't know how we really stop it

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Speaker 2: other than just you fight bad speech with good speech,

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Speaker 2: because there's going to be AI deep fakes circulating that

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Speaker 3: There's no question.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have to comment on it. I think it'll start this

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Speaker 1: election because I would expect that they'll be both pro

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Speaker 1: AI fakes that are circulating on a regular basis, and

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Speaker 1: The Truth Compass pointing do right every Day the Clay

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Speaker 1: and some of you out there maybe not as confident

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Speaker 1: as I am. I am of the states that will

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Speaker 1: flip or could flip if I were betting right now,

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Speaker 1: I feel the most confident in Trump winning Georgia. Of

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Speaker 1: Trump winning any of the states that he did not

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Speaker 1: win in twenty twenty, I would be stunned at this point.

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Speaker 1: If Trump is not gonna moorse so than Arizona. Yeah, really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Arizona's going to be a mess with Carrie Lake,

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Speaker 1: maybe Kirsten Cinema and Ruben Diego and the mess that's

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Speaker 1: going on out there. I feel like looking at the cause.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you've got a Senate seat going on simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: There's no other race going on in Georgia that's going

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Speaker 1: to gin up Democrat turnout, and so yeah, I'm most

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Speaker 1: I think Trump will win both Georgia and Arizona in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, which would mean he would only need

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Speaker 1: one of the Midwest states in order to get over

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Speaker 1: the number.

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Speaker 3: But I feel the most confident about Georgia.

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Speaker 1: If I were betting right now on states that would

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Speaker 1: flip their result from twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: I would bet that Georgia would be the.

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Speaker 1: One that Trump wins the most comfortably, because most of

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Speaker 1: the data buck that's out there right now has Trump.

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Speaker 1: All the polling in Georgia has Trump up seven or

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Speaker 1: eight points.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I love your optimism though about how Georgia is in

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Speaker 2: the bag already.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 1: I also think by the way Georgia has added since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty a lot of people have moved to our

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Speaker 1: red state voters to Georgia. I think Georgia has benefited

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Speaker 1: from out of blue state red migration.

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Speaker 2: The state of Georgia has been the scene of more

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Speaker 2: Republican own goals and missed opportunities than I think any

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Speaker 2: it has been what we lost three winnable Senate seats

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Speaker 2: there at this point three should have won Senate seat.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Think about the difference that would have made everybody three

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Speaker 2: out of three in Georgia. So I'm hoping that we've

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Speaker 2: learned some lessons there in those Senate races, and that

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Our good friend Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden stumbled out. Did you see him?

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Speaker 3: Buck?

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Speaker 1: Not be able to know where to stay behind the

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Speaker 1: King of Jordan during I believe it was yesterday's state

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's probably an X that they literally had

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Speaker 1: marked on the floor that said stand here, and he

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure out which one to stand on. That in

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Speaker 1: and of itself, is really difficult to even watch. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure we've ever seen any politician not be able

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Speaker 1: to know where to stand on a stage or how

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Speaker 1: to get off a stage at all like this. But

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Speaker 1: I am fired up, and I'm sure you were too, Buck,

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Speaker 1: because you were the first person I heard make this argument.

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Speaker 1: We have spent now over one hundred billion dollars trying

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Speaker 1: to defend Ukraine's border, even though Ukraine is basically in

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Speaker 1: a stalemate now and now they want to give sixty

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Speaker 1: billion more dollars of American money, and what is it?

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Speaker 1: Seventeen different Republican senators went along with this, and now

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden just trotted out and he said, you have

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Speaker 1: a choice to make, just to update you guys on

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Speaker 1: what's going on.

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Speaker 3: You have a choice to make.

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Speaker 1: Do you stand with Ukraine or do you stand with

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump?

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Speaker 5: Listen, Our nation stands at an inflection point, an inflection

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Speaker 5: point in history where the decisions we make now are

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Speaker 5: going to determine the course of our future for decades

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Speaker 5: to come. This is one of those moments. And I

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Speaker 5: say to the House members, House Republicans, you gotta decide.

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Speaker 5: Are you gonna stand up for freedom or are you

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Speaker 5: going to side with terror and.

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Speaker 3: Tyranny.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna stand with Ukraine, You're gonna stand with Putin?

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Speaker 5: Will we stand with America or Trump?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 1: I just this idea that we should while we are

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Speaker 1: thirty five trillion dollars in debt, be taking yours and

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Speaker 1: minds money, basically borrowing money to give to other nations

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Speaker 1: so that they can secure their own borders, is frankly

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Speaker 1: indefensible to me, and the fact that seventeen Republicans would

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Speaker 1: go along with this. We can't solve our own border issues,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to be spending one hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 1: to preserve other nations borders. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: very essence of selling America down the river and not

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Speaker 1: taking care of our own people.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I also would want to know what the plan is

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Speaker 2: for Ukraine, because it seems like we're told they just

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Speaker 2: have to keep this war going against Russia that's now

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Speaker 2: been going on for two years and there's no end

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Speaker 2: to it in sight. I also do think that I

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Speaker 2: think the support that I voiced on the show and

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Speaker 2: you voiced for this show on the issue of Israel

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Speaker 2: is very clear. I'm not clear on why we're giving

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Speaker 2: Israel seventeen billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I haven't even heard anyone try to

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Speaker 3: explain it. I'm kind of curious.

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Speaker 2: Is there any anyone who wants to explain why we're

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Speaker 2: giving I mean, okay, that they have depleted military stock Pulsey.

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Speaker 2: Israa was a wealthy country, so I don't really understand

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Speaker 2: why the US is paying the bills for Israeli defense

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Speaker 2: but nonetheless I also feel that way about Ukraine. So

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Speaker 2: there's a consistency there, this notion that four and eight

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Speaker 2: is just something that we do at a time when

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Speaker 2: we have thirty three trillion dollars in debt and a

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Speaker 2: time when inflation is remaining stubborn. Oh what look at that.

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Speaker 2: That's their way of saying, Yeah, we thought it was

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Speaker 2: going away. It's not going away. We thought you were

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Speaker 2: going to maybe start paying a little bit less, or

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Speaker 2: prices would maybe at least stabilized, not go down, but stabilize.

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Speaker 2: Turns out no, things that you need to live are

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Speaker 2: going to keep getting more expensive. The math At some point,

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Speaker 2: Clay takes over. At some point, we can't afford to

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Speaker 2: do this anymore. And I think that in the case

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Speaker 2: of these senators, these Republican senators, you want to ask, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do they think they're accomplishing by doing this? I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's dead on arrival in the house. They want to

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Speaker 2: show the donors who write them checks that they'll send

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Speaker 2: our money to Ukraine and send our money to Israel

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Speaker 2: and nothing for the border.

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Speaker 3: What are they proving?

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Speaker 1: Oh, in Taiwan, I also haven't been shown anything that

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Speaker 1: would suggest that our money is doing anything other than

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Speaker 1: prolonging a stalemate in Ukraine. Remember last summer we were told, Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians are about to go on an invasion, about

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Speaker 1: to go on the attack, and they're going to be

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Speaker 1: reclaiming territory. They're going to force the Russians out of

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Speaker 1: the land that they've seesed. No, we basically have what

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Speaker 1: feels increasingly like basically a new Majno line where you

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Speaker 1: have trench warfare set up and if you attack in

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Speaker 1: either direction you get mowed down their land mines everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So we're just giving Ukraine billions of dollars to continue

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Speaker 1: to fight a war that is not.

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Speaker 3: Going to be able to be won by them.

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Speaker 1: Why would we not just go ahead and have a

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Speaker 1: negotiation that in that situation, I don't understand by the

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Speaker 1: way Tracy and Texas has been waiting a long time.

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Speaker 3: Tracy wants to weigh in.

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Speaker 1: We played earlier Joe Scarborough saying he doesn't remember what

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Speaker 1: year his mom died, and so it's very reasonable that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden wouldn't know what year his son died. This

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Speaker 1: is the angle that they are now trying to play

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Speaker 1: to defend Biden Tracy, you wanted to call in and

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Speaker 1: react to that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 6: I do. My son died June's second, nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 6: You don't forget that ever, and you don't tell people

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Speaker 6: it's none of their business. If they ask you did

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Speaker 6: just comes rolling right out of your mouth. And as

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Speaker 6: for that turd muffin, Joe Scarborough, I haven't lost a

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Speaker 6: parent yet, but I think that's like parent a cow

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Speaker 6: to at Chihuahua. You can't compare such a so wrenching

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Speaker 6: event to a loss of a parent, someone that's expected

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Speaker 6: to go before you. He's just an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Tracy. We're sorry for your loss, and thank you for

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Speaker 3: the call.

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Speaker 1: And I think buck that connects with people if I

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Speaker 1: ever had God forbid that it ever happens. I've got

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Speaker 1: three boys. The idea that any of them would go

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Speaker 1: before me, as it is for any parent out there listening,

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Speaker 1: is so crippling to my soul to even think about

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Speaker 1: it that I can guarantee you that I would never

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Speaker 1: not think about that for the rest of my life

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Speaker 1: on every single day.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather, when I was fifteen years old, died on

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Speaker 1: July thirty first, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 3: I didn't expect it to happen. It was actually his.

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Speaker 1: Eighty first birthday. I still remember the day that he died.

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Speaker 1: And you expect that your grandparents are going to die

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Speaker 1: long before you. So I agree with Tracy the idea

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Speaker 1: that Joe Scarborough would say, I don't remember what year

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Speaker 1: my mom died. It's not normal for a parent, especially

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Speaker 1: one Buck who talks as much about his son's death

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Speaker 1: as Joe Biden does, to not know what year it

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Speaker 1: happened in.

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Speaker 3: And I would just circle back around.

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Speaker 1: Obama picked Hillary in twenty sixteen for a reason. Obama

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Speaker 1: didn't endorse Joe Biden in twenty twenty until he'd already

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Speaker 1: won the nomination. Obamas know that Biden's mental and physical

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Speaker 1: health is not there.

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Speaker 3: Better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: They never endorsed him for president either of the times

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Speaker 1: when he could have easily gotten.

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Speaker 3: The nomination with a nod from them. Buck, I think

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Speaker 3: that's significant.

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Speaker 1: Still going to be the nominee. Clay, We'll see. I

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Speaker 1: don't buy that at all. More.

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Speaker 3: Hang with us tomorrow