1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to ste Gotson Company Live podcast. Be 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday from three to 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: five pm Eastern noon to two pm Pacific on Fox 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Stugotson Company. 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Live at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: PLEA give thisun you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: What a Friday Friday. It's always already been here on 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: the West Coast. We're just twelve hours in, twelve more 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: hours to go. The bracket craziness. Kentucky and Santa Clara, 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: absolute classic. We're gonna make some history with that game 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: in just a matter of minutes. You heard Isaaclorencrawan say 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: the Texas Tech advances. Now we'll see if Alabama can 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: meet them after what's been a crazy week. And Aaron 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Torrez new coach, same Virginia like, oh my goodness, it's unbelievable. Yes, 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Virginia trailing by five at a half. It's so funny 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: because they're the anti old school Virginia. They run up 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: and down, they shoot a lot of threes. I guess 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: they left their defense back at Charlottesville, though, because Wright 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: State not a very good three point shooting team, and 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 2: they hit about a million of them in the first half. 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: They had eight in the first half. As a matter 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 4: of fact, right states. 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: It's the game that we're watching right now, and we'll 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: get to the finals from earlier. But the Ryan Odum 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Higher from Virginia is one that's always intriguing to me 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: because of what he and UMBC did to Virginia, of course, 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: and you would like, if you were to rewind and 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: go back to twenty eighteen, to think that Ryan Odam 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: would end up didn't succeed Tony Bennett, but kind of 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: succeeded Tony Bennett. Here's a big question. 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: Is there a Ryan Odam curse at Virginia? They have 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: not well, I guess not. They won the NCAA Tournament 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: the year after and have not won an NCAA Tournament 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: game since. With Tony Bennett, we thought Ryan Odam would 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: be the guy to get them over the hump, but 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: right now they're down five. I guess that doesn't make 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: sense because they won the championship after that he played 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: right now. 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: But the Ryan Odum Higher at Virginia has something for me. 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Where so Urban Meyer in his early coaching days, was 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: a grad assistant at Ohio State, and he had talked 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: about wanting to be the head coach at Ohio State 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: or maybe be the head coach at Notre Dame. But 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: he wins the national championship in beating Ohio State, he 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: wins his first one, and then he goes in coaches 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: the Buckeyes, leads them to a national championships. But like 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: at the moment when they are in Arizona and it's 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Chris Leek and Tim Tebow, you're not thinking that urban 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Meyer's gonna lead Ohio State. But ultimately urban Meyer's maybe 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: biggest win of his career happened against the team that 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: he would ultimately coach. And I feel it's the same 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: thing with Ryan Odum. We've got more of those in 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: college sports than you would realize. But the Ryan Odom 56 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: one stands out because of them being the first sixteen 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: seed to end up to end up upsetting a number one. 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: But it also shows you a little bit of the 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: finnicky nature of it where Tobin Anderson when FDU beat Perdue, 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: he ends up taking another job out of that, which 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: you would I would totally advise, right Like that's you 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: strike while the iron's hot, but then he's bounced around. 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: He landed somewhere new recently as well. But the paths 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: that these coaches take off of NCAA tournament runs, it's 65 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: always interesting to see where they end up. And Ryan 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Odum ending up at the school that they he beat 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: to make history is always intriguing to me. 68 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 4: So two quick things on that. 69 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: One. 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: I could be mistaken, but I believe Tobin Anderson was 71 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: the person who replaced Rick Patino at IONA, and they 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: moved off of him really quick for whatever reason. They're 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: the other thing too with Ryan Odum, which I don't 74 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: let me ask, is I don't remember it being talked 75 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: about at the time. He talks about it now all 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: the time. But I guess his dad was like an 77 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: assistant at Virginia for like ten years and he went 78 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: to high school and all that. I don't remember that. 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: It's a conversation now that he's the Virginia head coach. 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: I don't remember it being a conversation when he was 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: at when he was at UNBC. 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Dave Odams's dad, the former view was a head coach 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: that at Wake Forest for yes, for a while. 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: But I think he was an assistant. His dad was 85 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: an assistant at Virginia for several years, and he kind 86 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: of grew up in Charlottesville. And he's done interviews where 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: he talks about, you know, this is the place, more 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: than anywhere else, that I consider home, and this is 89 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: the place that I consider, more than anything else a 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: dream job. I just don't remember that being a conversation 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: when they upset UNBC. 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: So But anyway, but right now, with the two games 93 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: going on, Virginia the three seed in the Midwest region 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: currently trails right State in that three fourteen matchup forty 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: three to forty one. The other game, Arizona's taking it 96 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: to LIU sixty five thirty seven with thirteen minutes left 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: to go. So the Wildcats in San Diego moving on, 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: which we expected, but we may have a three fourteen 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: upset of Brewing. I will say this, this is the 100 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: earliest we have ever done it. Okay, let's say it 101 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: is time now for our tireract play of the day, 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: and if we actually have a play sequence, if you, 103 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: if you will, that tops what went down on TBS 104 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: earlier today. 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It is time now for our earliest 110 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: ever ti Iraq Play of the Day. 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: The basket she gets you to al Wady, the Spain 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: elevates please, Tide spearing out to sit on. 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: The Santa Clara is just. 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: Getta looks Graves elevates please. 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: Two breaks. 116 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: Just spirodidas Jim Spinarkle on TBS the Kentucky basket to tie, 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: the Santa Clara three to lead, and the buzzer beater 118 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: to tie to force overtime. What a way to get 119 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: Friday going in the NCAA tournament. 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: Can I just say, I know Spirodidas does NFL. I 121 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: don't know anything about him, but his calls just always 122 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: hit the spot, like NFL college basketball whatever, crazy crazy, crazy. 123 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: Moment you know this was. 124 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: I thought, you know you and I were in for 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 4: Cavino and rich yesterday. I thought you could argue this 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: was the most intriguing game of Friday in college basketball 127 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: because you have a Kentucky team that obviously has had 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: a disappointing season, and it was kind of this weird thing, 129 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: Dan where I didn't know if Kentucky fans just kind 130 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 4: of wanted to be put out of their own misery 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: and have the season be over. But the counter was 132 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: they didn't want to lose to Santa Clara. But the 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: counter to the counter is that Santa Clara was and 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: is and now was again actually a very good team. 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: The kid Graves who hit what was the go ahead shot, 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: is projected as a potential NBA player down the road. 137 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: So it was a very intriguing game. It was a 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: trendy upset pick. It was only about a two two 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: and a half point spread, and you could see why 140 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: with the way the game ended. 141 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: I find it so interesting on how then things change 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: in overtime and Kentucky ends up winning the contest. But 143 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: it's kind of like last night with VCU in North 144 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Carolina where neither team had any momentum yep, and nobody 145 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: could hit any shot whatsoever in that overtime and it 146 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: was VCU coming back from the big deficit to tie it. 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: But when you end up having the sort of play 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: that Kentucky had to tie the game. That momentum can 149 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: then carry you over into overtime and they end up 150 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: scoring sixteen points in overtime and winning by five. 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah no, And I still think, you know, Kentucky, we 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: assume will play Iowa State. They just tipped off against 153 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: Tennessee State in a two to fifteen game. I still 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: think that is a tough matchup for Kentucky and I 155 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: don't think they're gonna win. And I think their season 156 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: will be done this weekend, and I think there will 157 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: be big questions coming out of a season where they 158 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: wear a preseason top ten team. I know I'm saying 159 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: season a lot, but they were preseason top ten team. 160 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: I still think their campaign ends this weekend. But I'll 161 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: tell you what, there would have been a lot of 162 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: angst and a lot of frustration if Otega Away did 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: not hit that shot to force overtime. They survived to Sunday, 164 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: and for at least one night, they have something to celebrate, 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: and frankly, you know a March memory. I guess if 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 4: you lose in the second round, I don't know that 167 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 4: we'll be telling our grand kids about it. But it 168 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: was still an incredible sequence and an incredible yeah and something. 169 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: A couple of things that went on in the final 170 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: two and a half seconds that I want to get 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: to in a second, but I do want to stay 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: on the Kentucky thing. You know more about the Wildcats 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 2: than I would is the talent there, So listen, you 174 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: can give me a short answer, because it's going to 175 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: lead to another one. Okay, I'll try to be quick. 176 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: They had two season and ending injuries to their starting 177 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 4: point guard and their starting center. And the counter to 178 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: that is the starting center was coming off acl injury 179 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 4: and it was a question of how much he would 180 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: be able to play anyway this year. It wasn't a 181 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: second injury. It was just kind of a play and 182 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: it's safe. We're not gonna play him. So long story short, 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: if you want to justify the regular season record, you 184 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: can point to two season ending injuries to two projected starters. 185 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: The counter to that is that if you watch them 186 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 4: game by game, they are not as good as we 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: thought they were going to be, and I do think 188 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 4: they are. One of the larger disappointments in this season. 189 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: Is the nil there in Lexington? 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they got a lot of money a lot 191 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: of money. So the there's your answer, Yes, right, that's why, 192 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: and that's why. And I will say this, you know, Dan, 193 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: I think it's a bigger conversation about college sports now 194 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: is It's interesting because I do think you see coaches 195 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: get shorter leashes because whether the actual number is public 196 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: or not, we know you are investing in players, and 197 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: so it's just very clear if you know how to 198 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: evaluate develop and invest how to evaluate develop at whatever. 199 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: And so the NIL was there. I don't think there 200 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: is any reason to believe that anyone other than Kentucky 201 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: spent the most in NIL this season. We don't know 202 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: for sure, but it was reported over twenty million dollars 203 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: on this roster, and so I just bring it up 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: because that is a big part of why it has 205 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 4: been seen as such. 206 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: What I also think we do know is the twenty 207 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: million that is allowed by schools to be used towards nil. 208 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: Kentucky's one of the few schools that has a sizeable 209 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: chunk going to men's basketball. Well, a lot of the 210 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: other schools are just like, let's just put at the 211 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: football and everybody else just take your scraps or I mean, 212 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: but Kentucky is one of the few that says, all right, 213 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: we will fund men's college basketball from that twenty million 214 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: that they're allowed. 215 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: To one hundred percent. I think it's another very interesting 216 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 4: conversation about college sports going forward, is that I think 217 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: most schools aren't going to be able to be good 218 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: at both men's college basketball and football, and it's going 219 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 4: to be a tough decision. It's kind of funny Alabama 220 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 4: is tipping off here in just a few minutes, and 221 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: it's pretty well known that you know, natoates whatever you 222 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: want to say about, you know, the personnel decisions, the 223 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: player getting arrested this week, that he did pretty well 224 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: considering that it's pretty well known that he does not 225 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: have the NIL resources because so much of it is 226 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: going to football at Alabama. I think that's certainly the 227 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: case that a lot of SEC schools, a lot of 228 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: Big ten schools, and I think it will be an 229 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: interesting question as we evolve in this NIL era of 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: how many schools actually are willing to invest in basketball 231 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: the way that Kentucky did and will continue to. 232 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: Stull mentioned it yesterday on the show, and I know 233 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: others have as well. We're living in a world now 234 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: where Indiana is dominating football or super successful and national 235 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 2: champions in football, and here Nebraska and basketball, there is 236 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: some changing of the card. But in Kentucky it's still 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: about basketball. Now. I want to talk about the final 238 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: two point four seconds because there are two things that 239 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: stand out. One of them is very near and dear 240 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: to my heart, how Kentucky could get that shot in 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: two point three seconds or two point four seconds and 242 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State had four point three seconds out of a 243 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: time out yesterday and could only get the shot that 244 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: they got against TCU. You don't think that these things 245 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: would like you're thinking to yourself, Huh, that wasn't a 246 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: great shot. Maybe that wasn't a great decision, Maybe that 247 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: wasn't a design. You mentioned the point about on the broadcast, 248 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: Bill Raftery questioning the quickness of Bruce Thornton. He also 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: them not throwing an inbounds and calling a timeout at 250 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: half court where you would be able to then inbound 251 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: it if it would be with two seconds left or 252 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: three seconds left. Seeing what Kentucky did in that time 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: makes me scratch my head, being like, huh, it was 254 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: even worse than I thought. And now what you're seeing 255 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: and it was a great job by the I don't 256 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: know I was TBS, but the whole CBS Turner crew, 257 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: the crew that was doing the in game breaks where 258 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: you have Adam lef Goo and Jalen Rose and Bruce 259 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: Pearl and Seth Davis and everybody pointed out that Herb 260 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 2: Sendek was trying to call timeouts and they did not 261 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: grant him timeout. After that made three, Santa Clara had 262 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: their three timeouts remin and didn't use any in the 263 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: second half, so they end up calling the time out, 264 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: not getting the time out granted to set their defense, 265 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: and ultimately it cost them. 266 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: Dan, I don't want to cut you off. Joshua Jefferson, 267 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: Iowa States all Big twelve first team member is walking 268 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: off cannot put any weight on his left leg two 269 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: minutes into a game against Tennessee State. We just talked 270 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 4: about how Iowa State will play Kentucky in the next round. 271 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: Don't know what the injury is, but it did not 272 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 4: look good. He could not put any weight on his 273 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: left leg. So I want to talk Kentucky. I want 274 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: to focus on the end of the game, but obviously 275 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 4: we're here to kind of keep everybody informed on what's 276 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 4: going on. 277 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to note that, really, I mean, 278 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: is I mean, is the bracket opening up for Miami 279 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: of Ohio? I mean, like, is that what we are 280 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: talking about here? That bottom portion of the bracket could be. 281 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: I mean, geez, we've got We've got a Virginia team 282 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: that's sitting there on the ropes against right State. You 283 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: have Kentucky and Santa Clara. Maybe Kentucky was the team 284 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: like this. 285 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: Is this is where we are. And he brought this 286 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: up yesterday, you said it's hard to see the team 287 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: that's gonna beat Michigan before potentially the Elite A. Iowa States, 288 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: the number two seed in that region. I thought they 289 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: were the only team really that matched up well with 290 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: Michigan in the entire region. And their best player just 291 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: goes out with an injury. You hope he's okay, but yeah, no, 292 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: I'll tell you this. I think it totally changes the 293 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: complexion the entire region, and frankly, all of a sudden, 294 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: it changes the Kentucky trajectory as well. Of you get them, 295 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: you know, you might be looking at a second weekend again, 296 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 4: first second straight year under Mark Pope. All to go 297 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: full circle back to that Otega away three that he 298 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: got off in two point nine seconds when Ohio State 299 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: could not do what they needed to do yesterday. 300 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: He's all right, Torres, can I I'm depressed. 301 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: No, No, it's funny because on my Saturday night show, 302 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: Jason Martin and Steve Disager make fun of me and 303 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: say I always circle it back to Yukon, and so 304 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: you just pulled the Torres and you're like, hey, best 305 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: best moment of the tournament. Let's go ahead and make 306 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: it about Ohio State. 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What was lost in all of the fervor 326 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: of the NCAA tournament last night. Maybe not lost, but 327 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: I do think that over these four days sometimes the 328 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: NBA takes the back seat because we're so consumed with 329 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: our brackets in the madness. But this is also a 330 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: time of the year when you get silly stuff happening 331 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: in the NBA. You get absurd winning streaks, you get 332 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: crazy losing streaks, and you get people scoring eighty three 333 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: points or in the case of Luka Doncic sixty points 334 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: last night for the Los Angeles Lakers. To talk about 335 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: that and so much more in the association, good friend 336 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: Rick Buker, Fox Sports Radio, NBA insider FS one NBA 337 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: analyst as well, joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hello, Rick, 338 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: how's your Friday? 339 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: It's good, but I haven't checked my bracket lately. So 340 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 6: that's TVD. 341 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: Let's let's let's be honest, because you are mister NBA. 342 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: It's where your bread and butter is. How much do 343 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: you veer from the NBA to maybe just checking out 344 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: college basketball, especially over these four days of the first 345 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: first week of the tournament? 346 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean, look, it's it is when you 347 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 6: got like, you know, four at least four games, six games, 348 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: it seems like it's all day starting in the morning. 349 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 6: Where you get the trouble is is if I, like, 350 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 6: if I flip on my TVs, I may get stuck 351 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 6: not getting a whole lot else done or trying to 352 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 6: multi pass the rest of the day. So yeah, no, 353 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 6: I get I get consumed like it everybody else, particularly 354 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 6: because when I first started out my career, one of 355 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 6: the first things I did was I convinced my uh 356 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 6: then I worked for something kids. It was called a newspaper, 357 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 6: and it was like it was it was literally made 358 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 6: out of paper and it had news on it. It's 359 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 6: crazy thing, but and it would come out like eight 360 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 6: hours after after it was printed. Anyway, I digress. I 361 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 6: convinced them to my my I grew up in Cincinnati. 362 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 6: Cincinnati was one of the locations. Dayton was one of 363 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 6: the other. I convinced them that if I flew, if 364 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 6: they flew me to Cincinnati, I could stay in my parents' 365 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: house and I would travel between Dayton and Cincinnati, and 366 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 6: I could cover all of the NCAA first round games, 367 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: first round and second round games there. And they said, Okay, 368 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 6: you know that's that's a pretty good bang for our buck. 369 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 6: And I fell in love with the idea. I think 370 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 6: his name was Skip skip Malenski. Skip Maluski worked for 371 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 6: the Chicago Tribune, and he was nothing but at college 372 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 6: basketball and NCAA March Madness in particular Honk and I 373 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 6: initially dreamed of having his job to be in a 374 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 6: gym all day long, watching all these different schools play 375 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: in March Madness. That was ultimately the dream. So I 376 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 6: kind of relive a little taste of that every spring, 377 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 6: a lot more than you wanted to know. I guess 378 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 6: we're out of. 379 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: The sun now, but. 380 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 6: That's that's what background for me in March Madness. 381 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: Well, I do know this, and I'm gonna be honest 382 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: I didn't see a point of Lucas sixty last night 383 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: because I'm watching the tournaments as it's going on, and 384 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: we're based in La as well, So Luca has sixty 385 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: against the heat. But my question stems from this narrative 386 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: about Luca, like why why are we changing so quickly? 387 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: And I say we as a collective hole because I 388 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: know it's not everybody, but it was not even a 389 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: month ago that we're wondering if the Mavericks actually did 390 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: the right thing. And now and now Lucas scores sixty 391 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: points and we're saying this team's prime for a playoff run. 392 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 2: Why are we having these knee jerk reactions, especially when 393 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: it comes to a player like Luca, Because. 394 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 6: We're kind of a knee jerk kind of people, aren't we, Like, 395 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 6: I mean, it's what we do. It's and I don't 396 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 6: and people I mean broad spectrum like fans, media, I mean, 397 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 6: even teams to a certain extent can can be reactive. 398 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 6: And so it's really it's big picture, and it's forgetting 399 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 6: why they traded him. It wasn't because he didn't have 400 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: performances like this or stretches like this. It was because 401 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 6: you were going to have to pay him three hundred 402 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 6: and sixty five million dollars and how you were feeling 403 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 6: about him a month ago is part of that price tag. 404 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 6: And so can we build around this guy? Can we 405 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 6: trust him physically? And that story has yet to be 406 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: told for this season. When it comes to the Lakers, 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 6: uh and and Luka Doncics, I mean they're they're yes, 408 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 6: they're third in the in the West. Do I think 409 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 6: that they are title contenders? 410 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 411 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 6: Their their defense simply isn't good enough and will be 412 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 6: exposed in the postseason. There are a number of other 413 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 6: teams that are that have various Achilles heels in the 414 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 6: in the Western Conference as well, Houston Rockets being one 415 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 6: of them, and the Lakers that exploited that. But look, 416 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 6: I'm looking at Luka Dancis right now, and what is 417 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 6: making him phenomenal in the moment is that he's He's 418 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 6: hitting his threes at an incredible rate from almost anywhere 419 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 6: as we know, he can get to the hoop, he's 420 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: expert at drawing fouls. He is scoring, but he doesn't 421 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 6: he's not being asked to defend at a very high 422 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: level the way he will in the playoffs, and can 423 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 6: he maintain scoring the way that he does and and 424 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 6: and give you a the defensive effort that you're going 425 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: to need in order to play for a championship. That's 426 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 6: the question that's always going to be the question. And 427 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 6: until he answers that, my only issue with Dallas Mavericks 428 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: trading it is that they simply the way they went 429 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 6: about it, and that they ultimately they didn't they didn't 430 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 6: get enough. And at the time I said, I can 431 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 6: see through a certain window Anthony Davis Max Christy, like, 432 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 6: if you're believing that you have the other requisite pieces 433 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 6: to play for a title, and you're not trusting that 434 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 6: you want to invest three hundred and sixty five million dollars, 435 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: you think that's a bad bet. In Luca, I understand 436 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 6: why you would do that. I would certainly hope that 437 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 6: you would just get more out of the deal. And 438 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 6: as it's turned out, Anthony Davis has been a disaster. 439 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 6: That's why he's not there anymore. And so the deal 440 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 6: looks really really bad. But count me as one of 441 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: those at the time, and throughout all of this, I've said, 442 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 6: let me just wait and see how this turns out. 443 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 6: Because if Luca ends up not winning a championship in LA, 444 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 6: then I think that we will ultimately look at this 445 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: a little different. So it might be a bad deal 446 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 6: by Dallas, but not as bad as we're looking. 447 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: At it now. 448 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: You mentioned you don't think the Lakers are a title contender. 449 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: I assume you think the San Antonio Spurs, who officially 450 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: clinched a playoff spot with a Victor wind Binyama not 451 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: quite buzzer beater, but pretty close. I assume you like 452 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: the Spurs heading into the postseason here in a few weeks. 453 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 6: I do, and my only question with them is simply 454 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 6: that they haven't had the experience of making a deep 455 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 6: playoff run, and I do think that that experience is important, 456 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 6: particularly for a young team, and looking at their team collectively, 457 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 6: like I don't have, you know, I don't really have 458 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 6: the Alex Caruso type who has gone and won a championship, 459 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 6: And so that's where I have a certain question, you know, 460 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: do they They're a very mature team for as young 461 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 6: as they are, but they've also shown that they have 462 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 6: some thing that the Oklahoma City Thunder have difficulty countering, 463 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 6: and so they're a very intriguing team. But yes, I would. 464 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 6: I consider them a dark horse, but I certainly would 465 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 6: put them in the title contender category. 466 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: For me. 467 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 6: Really, there's there's probably three teams in the Western Conference 468 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: that I can see realistically coming out number one Oklahoma City, 469 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 6: Number two Denver, even though I do have some concerns 470 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 6: about them right now. And San Antonio would probably be 471 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 6: the third team in that order in terms of the 472 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 6: teams that I believe in in the Western Conference. 473 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Rick Buker joining us here on Fox Sports Radio FS one, 474 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, NBA Insider, also co host of Finding 475 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: the Teams podcast with Brendan Haywood. Joining us here on 476 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It's Stu Gotson Company Live. He's erin Torres. 477 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Beyer in for Stu Gotson Company. And the 478 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: piece put out today by Ramona Shelburne about the Milwaukee 479 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: Bucks and Joannison Tetacumpo. I know that, uh, you know, 480 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: you were familiar with Bucks ownership. There's been a change 481 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years. Jimmy Haslam moving in. 482 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: Is that the ultimate reason why Gyianis has staying is 483 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: because of the situation with ownership. But why is he 484 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: still a Buck? And will he continue to be a 485 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Buck after this upcoming offseason. 486 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 6: Well, here's here's the reality. If we look at just 487 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 6: the backup big picture, who was the last international player 488 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 6: to demand the trade? 489 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: Great question, I wouldn't have an answer. James Harden He's 490 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: not international man has. 491 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 6: Never had one. We've never had one. 492 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: Wow. 493 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 6: I mean look at Luka Doncis when he was traded 494 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 6: to the Lakers. He was heartbroken. International players, there is 495 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 6: still a mindset that they are being an NBA player. 496 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 6: Becoming an NBA player is a feather in their cap. 497 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 6: To be considered of an NBA player that we're going 498 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 6: to build around is the next step. And they are 499 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 6: so grateful for that that the idea that they would 500 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 6: turn around and say, no, this isn't good enough for me, 501 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 6: I want to go someplace else. Is It's just it's 502 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 6: it's bred into them because over over internationally, you would 503 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 6: you would never do that. Like you you can see 504 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 6: Americans all the time, like get upset and they leave 505 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: and they go join another team. Even overseas, you generally 506 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 6: don't see that, particularly with a with a player who 507 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 6: is uh is made a cornerstone of a team. The 508 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 6: gratitude is man, you're you're giving me this responsibility. You 509 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 6: think that much of me. I want to pay it 510 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 6: back any way that I can. And if we have 511 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 6: to go through some rough spots, that's okay because you 512 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 6: still believe in me, and you believe that I can 513 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 6: get us. 514 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: Through those rough spots. 515 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 6: We've gotten to a place now that's been bred into 516 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 6: the American mindset. 517 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: You know what, we're in rough spots. 518 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 6: I got to find a different road. I got to 519 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 6: find both place else to drive. And so I think 520 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 6: that's the part. And I do think that he is 521 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 6: conflicted in terms of he wants to be seen as 522 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 6: an all time great. He's won a championship, he wants 523 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 6: to win more. He wants to be viewed a certain way. 524 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 6: But he raised his family in Milwaukee. They've taken care 525 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 6: of his entire family. I saw him when he first 526 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 6: came over. I know how naive and raw he was, 527 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 6: and how much he's grown up and developed in Milwaukee. 528 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 6: That is an adopted home for him. And so I 529 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 6: think from the outside, a lot of fans in media 530 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 6: just look at it and say, oh, well, you're honest. 531 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 6: You have to go someplace where you can play for 532 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 6: championships and he's looking at it and going, well, okay, 533 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: but I got to leave home to do that where 534 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 6: I've already won a championship and how many championships can 535 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 6: I realistically win? And then throw in that he just 536 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 6: had Damian Lillard as a teammate. You can't tell me 537 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 6: that Damian Lillard doesn't regret having left, and he was 538 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 6: traded so it wasn't much choice on his part, but 539 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 6: that he looks at what happened going to Milwaukee and 540 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 6: now being back in Portland and that he's thinking, Man, 541 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 6: I wish I had never gone through that. I think 542 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: I think Johannis has to look at that and go, yeah, 543 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: is that what I really want? Because the grass isn't 544 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: always greener? 545 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? One more follow up, just because Rick we've done 546 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: shows together. The Bucks are my team. But I do 547 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: have a question about ownership, and that's where a lot 548 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: of the article seems to be focused on, because Jimmy 549 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: Haslam did go in and purchase the portion from Mark Lasry, 550 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: so has them at one point's going to take over. 551 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't even want to talk to Browns fans about 552 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: what has happened with that organization with them as the owner, 553 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: but how much how much of it is ownership chaos 554 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee considering they got a heck of a deal. 555 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we have an expansion fee that could be 556 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: eight billion dollars. They got him for just north of 557 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: a half a billion, But like, like, where where are 558 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: we with that ownership group in Milwaukee? 559 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 6: I mean it is it is a conflicted group. I 560 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 6: mean they do they do. And if you look at 561 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 6: any organization, the ownership and how they approach things and 562 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 6: whether they're all on the same page. And there's a 563 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 6: clear connection between ownership management and coaching and is ownership 564 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 6: smart enough to hire the right people and let them 565 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 6: do their jobs and not to not to divert here, 566 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 6: but you know, the living in the Bay Area with 567 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: the Warriors, I'm seeing the repercussions of ownership management and 568 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: coaching not being on the same page. And I don't 569 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 6: know that we've got to the Jonathan Kaminga subject. But 570 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 6: Kaminga is is collateral damage and from that because the 571 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 6: mistake wasn't in trading him to Atlanta for what they got. 572 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 6: The mistake was drafting him in the first place, and 573 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: then the second mistake was not him when you realize that, 574 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 6: you know what, he doesn't fit with the team that 575 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 6: we're trying to build at the moment. I think there's 576 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 6: just too many situations where ownership gets hung up on 577 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 6: we want to compete for this thing. We want to 578 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 6: win a championship now and then that, but your timeline 579 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 6: is not that doesn't necessarily work, or you're trying to 580 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 6: force management and coaching to do something that's not realistic 581 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 6: at the time. At the moment, the Bucks needed to 582 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 6: pivot after they won that championship. They've gotten everything that 583 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 6: they could out of that collective team. 584 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: And what we see over and over. 585 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 6: Again is teams thinking, let's try to get one more 586 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 6: and then they hang on to all the pieces and 587 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 6: I don't I think. I think management is smart enough 588 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 6: to know when when time is up on a roster, 589 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 6: but ownership a lot of times doesn't want to want 590 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 6: to conceive that, and so they force management and coaching 591 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 6: to make moves that they're back ball sense says, it's 592 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 6: not a good move and it's going to cost us 593 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 6: down the line. 594 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Rick Buker joining us here on Fox Sports already just 595 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: last one. Because expansion has been such a topic. I 596 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 2: get Seattle I I I in a way I get 597 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Las Vegas, but in a way I hate Las Vegas. 598 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: I mean, is this a done deal like that that 599 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be these two and it's gonna happen 600 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: and in three years? 601 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 6: Is that it's either it's either going to happen with 602 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: these two or it's not going to happen. 603 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't. 604 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 6: I don't see any other markets that uh that that 605 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 6: that are legitimate contenders to replace one of those two. 606 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 6: And a lot of it has to do. I mean, obviously, 607 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 6: you know, Seattle. The reason for Las Vegas is because 608 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 6: people see the potential owners, see the ability for them 609 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 6: to make money there. 610 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: It's why. 611 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 6: It's why I'll you know, it's it's why the Davis 612 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 6: has took took the raiders to sure to the Las Vegas. 613 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 6: It's not necessarily. I mean we looked at it from 614 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 6: like the level of fan interest is that is it 615 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 6: a is. 616 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: It a football city? 617 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: Is it a basketball city? It's like, no, it's a 618 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 6: dollar sign city. That is how the that's how the 619 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 6: prospective owners are looking. 620 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: At it fair enough, and they are going to get 621 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: a lot of money into the league. 622 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 6: I mean, may not, who knows, who's going to be 623 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 6: in the stands. But but the the owner will be 624 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 6: pocketing Mark Davis will be pocketing a lot of money. 625 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: Isn't that? Literally? 626 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 4: The as like we don't care who shows up. 627 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 6: Honestly, honestly with with with the NBA in particular, like 628 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 6: and I'm really kind of aware I'm putting together a 629 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 6: global basketball podcast network, and so I've become really aware 630 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 6: of what's going on in Asia and Africa and Europe 631 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 6: with NBA Europe, and what it's come become clear to 632 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 6: me is there was a time where the NBA was 633 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 6: really trying to spread the gospel of basketball. They were 634 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 6: trying to bring basketball to every country that they could globally, 635 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 6: having academies, sending coaches, having clinics, and part of it 636 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 6: was we want to create a bigger market and a 637 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 6: bigger audience, but it also was we just want to 638 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 6: spread the value of playing basketball in everywhere that we can. 639 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 6: And over i'd say the last five six years, they 640 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 6: are pulled back on all of these things because now 641 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 6: they're just looking on return of investment. It's the you know, 642 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 6: the communal kind of ad aspect that the NBA once 643 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: had as part of its approach seems to have been 644 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 6: cut out, and it's really become about how do we 645 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 6: maximize our revenue, how do we make the most money. 646 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 6: That's driving decisions more than anything else. 647 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: He's the co host of the Finding the Seams podcast 648 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: for Brenda and Hey What. And he's our Fox Sports 649 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: Radio on FS one NBA analyst and insider Rick Buker. Rick, 650 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: We appreciate the time, enjoy the weekend. 651 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 3: Welesome, guys. 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After taking 666 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: out North Carolina in overtime last night in a six 667 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: eleven game, a crazy overtime where nobody wanted to score, 668 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: nobody could make anything, and ultimately VCU rallies from what 669 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: was it nineteen point deficit at one point in the game. 670 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: It was significant they come back and get the win. 671 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: VCU is happy. You know who's not happy? North Carolina 672 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: head coach Hubert Davis got a little bit tired there. 673 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't. 674 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 4: Hubert, Why did you go to just a six man 675 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: rotation in the second half? 676 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: Because that was my decision? 677 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: Coach? What did you generally? 678 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: What do you think went wrong? 679 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 3: What do you mean, Hubert? 680 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: The free throws again, as you mentioned a little bit 681 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: of an issue tonight, Why do you think that was 682 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: such an issue for your team throughout the season. That's 683 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: a great question. I mean, we work on them. Okay, 684 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: I don't mean to laugh, but there's a lot there. 685 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: You're not laughing, You have a straight face. You think 686 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: there's serious issues in chapel. You know, it's so funny. 687 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: My wife, who's a therapist, has been yelling at me 688 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 4: about my affect, which means I'm basically like the Courtney Kardashian. 689 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 4: She never knows like, am I happy, am I sad? 690 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: Whatever? 691 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna have to tell her that you called 692 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: me out on that as well, that there you know, 693 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: there's no you don't know if I'm if I think 694 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 4: it's funny, if I think it's serious, whatever. She literally 695 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 4: was lecturing me about this today. Anyway, to Hubert Davis, 696 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: you know what that press conference was, Dan, what's that? 697 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: That was the I had too good of a season 698 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 4: to be fired press conference? But I know everybody's mad 699 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: and my life is gonna be miserable for the next 700 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 4: eight months until next season tips off. Press conference. That's 701 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: what that press conference was. 702 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: They I would be he brought in Caleb Wilson, right, So, 703 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: like I get why, like Hubert Davis would not be 704 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 2: happy with that with the line of questioning because if 705 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 2: he goes out, their season likely goes down the tubes. 706 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: But this is not a way to also curry favor 707 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: with anybody that you're gonna have to deal with now 708 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 2: for the next three hundred and sixty five days. 709 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just tough because they obviously lost a lottery pick. 710 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: I think there was essentially a way in which the 711 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: season could have been successful unless they lost in that 712 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 4: specific way, getting up big, blowing e lite. If you lose, 713 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: it's one thing. If you get to the second round, 714 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 4: it's fine, but this specific loss. 715 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: Virginia is now up five on an eight zero run 716 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: over Wright State, two minutes to go, So the Cavaliers 717 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 2: trying to get some breathing room, but not even close 718 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: to over as they again have two minutes to go. 719 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: He's aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer, will tell you what 720 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 2: happens next in the tournament. I'm Fox Sports Radio.