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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. We're talking about Marguerite Steinheil and her

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Speaker 1: sexual escapades across early twentieth century France and the trail

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Speaker 1: of bodies left in her wake. Kind if you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard part one, you got to go back and hear that.

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Speaker 1: Some of that episode, which is Marguerite stein isl and

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Speaker 1: Felix far the President of France. Uh, A lot of

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Speaker 1: that's going to lead into what happens in part two

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Speaker 1: of her life, which we're going to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: So welcome back. Yeah, thanks for joining us again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you did hear part one, welcome back. Or if

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Speaker 1: you're a regular listener of the show, welcome back. Either way,

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Speaker 1: happy to have you. If you're a new listener, hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Oh my goodness, that way to

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Speaker 1: catch our ive from across the room. Yeah for real,

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Speaker 1: we can see you right through the camera in your phone.

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Speaker 1: It's watching you, by the way, and we have at

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Speaker 1: that got creepy. I don't know where it's so. Happy

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Speaker 1: to have you today. I hope everybody's doing well. But

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Speaker 1: before we jump into the second part of Marguerite's life

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Speaker 1: and sexcapades, we got a great comment on our Instagram

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Speaker 1: post about Linda Riss and Bert Poogash recent terrible episode. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I guess the episode was good story. Yeah, and uh

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Speaker 1: look it's Steph G commented this guy put the dick

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Speaker 1: in ridiculous. I cannot with this man, which I wish

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Speaker 1: we had thought that during the episode. That was quick

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Speaker 1: thinking step good job, um and also said also hear

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Speaker 1: me out. Could this have been the inspiration behind Harley Quinn?

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Speaker 1: Because this story has a real joker Harley feel to it.

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Speaker 1: This is too good. This is a very good speculation station. Yes,

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Speaker 1: stef acid in the face, you got you know, abusive relationship?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um, girl who's way too good for the guy? True.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how she got all wrapped up in him.

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Speaker 1: And he's like a sociopath. He doesn't care about the

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Speaker 1: well being of other people and only he cares about

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Speaker 1: getting what he wants. It's a little it's too good.

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Speaker 1: It might be not to mention. The first appearance of

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Speaker 1: Harley Quinn I believe was Batman, the animated series, and

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Speaker 1: that was two I think her episode aired. Joined the

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Speaker 1: comics the next year, I believe. And that is just

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Speaker 1: prime boogas time, because that's uh, that's that is definitely

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Speaker 1: shortly after than being a huge media sensation. Um so yeah.

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Speaker 1: I could totally see those comics writers at least having

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Speaker 1: read the Poogas story, because everyone in America did and thought.

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Speaker 1: You know, even it wasn't deliberate, it was in their minds.

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Speaker 1: It must have been that lead. At the very least,

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Speaker 1: they were like acid in the face, some kind of

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Speaker 1: weird love love relationship something. I think. I think Steph

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Speaker 1: is on the money with this perfect got it, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to add quit to type into d C

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Speaker 1: comics and ask we gotta get Margot Robbie to do

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Speaker 1: the Linda Risks story. Oh my god, who would play Poogas?

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Speaker 1: I don't want Jared leto would get him out? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like you'd be insulting to

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Speaker 1: name anyone that's fair. Well, Margot Robbie as every character.

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Speaker 1: I'd watch it. I'd watch Yeah, I'd let her give

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Speaker 1: it a whirl. Margot Robbie as Linda Riss, Tilda Swinton

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Speaker 1: as Burt Posh. I buy it. I'm buying it. So

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for sending that, Steph number one fan.

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Speaker 1: You're awesome and uh yeah, very exciting stuff. So enough

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Speaker 1: about the poo gashes. They're old news. Let's get back

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Speaker 1: to Meg and her husband Adolph Steinheil. Uh and um

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Speaker 1: the second half of their story, which is crazier than

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Speaker 1: own episode. That's certainly was He'll be the judge. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the music going and get started. I'm ready. Hey,

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Speaker 1: their friends come listen. Well, Elien and Diana got some

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Speaker 1: stories to tell. There's no match making, a romantic tips.

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Speaker 1: It's just about ridiculous relationships, a lover. It might be

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Speaker 1: any type of person at all, and abstract concept on

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Speaker 1: a concrete wall. But if there's a story where the

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Speaker 1: second glance ridiculous roles a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: So just a quick recap in the last episode, in

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Speaker 1: case it's been a minute since you've heard it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's see. So Marguerite Steinheil, she married a painter named Adolph,

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Speaker 1: and they moved to Paris together. Had this really nice life.

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Speaker 1: not political. I'm just steering France in a particular political direction. Political.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, he died while she was giving him a blowjob.

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Speaker 1: So she's on top of the world, and she continues

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Speaker 1: Remember I told you that they were coming to paints

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Speaker 1: He's like, what's going on? He says, Look, I know

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Speaker 1: I know you have these papers. And also, do you

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Speaker 1: happen to have a really fancy pearl necklace? Yeah? Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you recall from part one the pearl necklace that

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Speaker 1: Felix gave her and said, yeah, I have this beautiful

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Speaker 1: And then he came back to her later and said,

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Speaker 1: I have to leave France. Please hide it away forever.

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Speaker 1: I never want to see it again. The funk is

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Speaker 1: but here he's asking her about it. Marguerite says she

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Speaker 1: And he says, you've got this necklace, and he knows

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Speaker 1: every detail about this necklace. He says, look, if you

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Speaker 1: don't give it to him, he will ruin you and

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Speaker 1: me and our daughter Martha. We're totally screwed if we

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Speaker 1: don't give him this necklace. So just give me the necklace,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to give it to him. He said.

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Speaker 1: The whole affair is so dreadful that if you don't

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Speaker 1: on earth thought I should commit suicide. Damn. This is intense,

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Speaker 1: this necklaces. This is the one ring, isn't it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's just like the mystery of the ages. Like what

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I didn't write it down, Like he

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Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, speculation station. So it's broken at all. Out.

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Speaker 1: This is a lot. Yeah, But Marguerite is like, I

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Speaker 1: ain't nobody's Patsy, And she's like, no, this is just blackmail.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be blackmailed. And Adolph's like, no,

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Speaker 1: pearls individually. And he says he'll never talk about it again.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like he wants to like reveal the

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Speaker 1: You're not blackmailing someone if you're paying them for what

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Speaker 1: nicer form of blackmail, I guess, because you still get

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Speaker 1: I'll pay you for it. So anyway, Meg's like fine, whatever.

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Speaker 1: You better not lose one of those pearls and uh,

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Speaker 1: so much not scared of this guy. She's like, I've

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Speaker 1: seen it all, my friend. Um, let me go through

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Speaker 1: my Rolodex real fast and show you how many incredibly rich, powerful,

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Speaker 1: influential people I know. And you can try to make

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Speaker 1: not gonna work. I've been through some ship. I had

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Speaker 1: pearl neck was blackmail. It's not what words could you

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and add Off admitted, yes, it is

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Speaker 1: um and she says she has no idea what happened. Next,

420
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: she assumed that Emily and Adolf were both alive and

421
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: similarly just gagged and tied up like like she was right,

422
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: it was quiet everywhere else, so she just assumed that's

423
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: what happened. She never thought they could have been killed.

424
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: So she had described to police these long black gowns,

425
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: that they were wearing, these black cloaks, and shockingly enough,

426
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: a nearby theater had said that those exact clothes had

427
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: been stolen from them just six hours earlier that very night.

428
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: When the story gets out, public opinion immediately had her

429
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: pegged as being the mastermind of this. Nobody believed that

430
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: she was just an innocent bystander. They're like, oh, this girl,

431
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: she already killed the president. What's the stopper from killing

432
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: her husband and her mom? Again, unfair to say should

433
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: kill the president. Okay, she didn't, but you know how

434
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: people are, especially, do you know how the rumors start.

435
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: But it totally split Paris once again, just like the

436
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: Dreyfus affair had you know, pit people against each other.

437
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: Everybody picked a side. It was the Steinheil affair and

438
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: the same situation. Everybody said either she was innocent or

439
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: she was the killer herself. And honestly, police weren't really

440
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: doing that much work on the case. They had kind

441
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: of more or less abandoned the investigation. I mean, you

442
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: know how police are. They like, yeah, we'll get around

443
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: to it. You got a lot of Yeah, we've got

444
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: a lot of going on over here. What is that

445
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: big Lebowski quote. Yeah, they got us working in shifts

446
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: on your stolen car. Yeah, yeah, we'll get right on it.

447
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean that They're like, we got no leads, we

448
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: got nothing. And she's like, what about the stolen cloaks.

449
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: That's huge. There's a break in at a theater and costumes,

450
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: and then those same costumes showed up in my house.

451
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: That's huge. How can you not follow that? And they're

452
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: just giving her the run around, like, oh, you gotta

453
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: stop bothering us. We'll get to it. We'll get to it.

454
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: We're going on and she's like, look, this whole time

455
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: that you guys are piddling around not doing any work,

456
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: everybody's blaming me for this. Murder, and I'm really sick

457
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: of it. And this is like weeks, if not months,

458
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: are going by with no action being taken, and everyone

459
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: a ton of people just blaming her for it. She's like,

460
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm sick of this. I gotta make sure somebody else

461
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: gets to blame here, so we gotta get to work.

462
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: And so maybe she decided to embellish the story a

463
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: little bit. Adolf's valet, Remy cou Yard, who had discovered her,

464
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: he was an easy target to to finger at. She said,

465
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: you should check his pocket book. I know he's been

466
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: stealing from us. And he's like, what's with the drive

467
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: by bring you coffee every morning? Come on, it's not

468
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: my fault, it's how you naked. Come on. No, when

469
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: I can't have someone describing my boobs sprint, she's probably

470
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: please draw my boobs. Uh. And sure enough, when they checked,

471
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: they found a very fancy and distinctive pearl that looked

472
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: like it had been removed from a ring in Remy's possession.

473
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: And Meg's like, WHOA, that's definitely a pearl from one

474
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: of my rings that was stolen. And of course he's like, uh, no,

475
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: I did not steal any ring. I did not steal

476
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: a pearl. I'm totally innocent. Oh come on, Remy, then,

477
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: what are you doing with that pearl right there in

478
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: your pocketbook? So, but this is new evidence, the case

479
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: blown wide open. There's pictures of Remy and the pearl

480
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: and the papers, and they're like extra extra. But I

481
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: steal jewels and murders his boss pearls. I'll let's have

482
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: a dolls And everyone in Paris is saying it better

483
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: than me and also reading about it, including a nearby

484
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: jeweler who thought something was a little suspicious about this story.

485
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: So he walks right down to the police station and says,

486
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: the excuse him. I recognize this pearl, Madame Steinheil asked

487
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: me to remove it from one of her rings two

488
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: weeks after the murder happened. And that is where commercial

489
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: would be if this was a television show. So we

490
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: should also do a commercial right now. Yeah, because there's

491
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger. I know you're coming back. We will be

492
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: right back. So holy ship, Megan's totally made up this

493
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: story about Remy Collard stealing the pearls. She totally slipped

494
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: evidence into his pocket book. That is crazy. That is outrageous,

495
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: very suspicious also for me to do. Yeah, so shady, right,

496
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm trying to prove to society that it

497
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: wasn't me, So I'm gonna go manufacture evidence falsely accused. Yeah,

498
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: and didn't even cover your tracks very well. I mean,

499
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: come on, you got to kill the jeweler if you're

500
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: going to do that, or go out of town, you

501
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, go to a jewelier out of town.

502
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Don't go to the one down the street. What are

503
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: you crazy? Yeah, so you know the police are like,

504
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: uh damn woman, for real, you're just gonna bring us

505
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: this like really poorly put together evidence like this. She's like, wait, wait,

506
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: wait with Wade, did I say Remy Culard? No, no, no, no, no, no,

507
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: that's not it. That's a good We love him. He

508
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: brings me coffee every morning. He's great. He saw my boobs.

509
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: He's a good guy. But oh, but you know what,

510
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: we got this housekeeper. Her name is Maryette Wolf, and

511
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: you know she and her so on Alexander, they're always

512
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: sneaking around the house. So we're always trying to see

513
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: which stairs make noise and how they can keep quiet

514
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: and not wake us. Up and shushing each other and

515
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: just acting very strange. Yeah, why would a housekeeper want

516
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: to keep quiet around the house when they get up

517
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: probably six or eight hours before you do every day

518
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: to clean your house. She's like, these boards are very squeaky.

519
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: Let me make sure that I fix them for the

520
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: owner of the house, who's paying me to take care

521
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: of the house, to keep the house, and so suspicious.

522
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: So she tells the police to keep an eye on

523
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: Marryott and her son. And Maryette catches word of this

524
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: and she corners Meg and she's like, say, hell, you

525
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: just say about me, You say a word about my son,

526
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: and I was spills absolute tey about you and all

527
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: your boyfriends. Lady, I know what you've been up to. Yeah,

528
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: don't funk with servants. Man, she's got the deeds. And

529
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: that kind of shuts Margarite up for a second. But

530
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: then there's some reporters harassing Meg one day. They're just

531
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: grilling her with like accusatory questions. They're insisting that she confess. Confess, confessed,

532
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: you know you killed your husband and your mother. Yeah,

533
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: that's a great way to get an honest report out

534
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: of something to work out really well. It just harassed

535
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: someone and tell you tell you what I want to hear.

536
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: That'll sell your papers. That's really what's happening. Journalism at

537
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: its finest. And she said she was huddled on the

538
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: ground nearly in tears, and that she just blurted out

539
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: just to shut him up. Alexander Alexander Wolf is the murderer,

540
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and reporters are like, oh shit, for real, him up

541
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: real quickly, right, I guess that story worked work And

542
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: she tells him, you've got to go tell him so

543
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: he has a chance to run. It's like, oh, sume

544
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: me to commit a crime, help a murderer get away

545
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: with something. But the reporters asked her if Alexander's mother, Maryett,

546
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: knows anything about it, to which she said, oh, she

547
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: is watching us. She'll probably turn against me and make

548
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: up all kinds of stories of Maryette. But I did

549
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: not ask Wolf to do it. He terrorized me and

550
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: said if I confessed that it was him, he just

551
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: claimed that I was the one who told him to

552
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: do it in the first place, and he's threatened to

553
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: kill me since how convenient. Yeah, she really did try

554
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: to get in front of this whole thing, and like, well,

555
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: whatever they tell you, I'm going to tell you first

556
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: so that it doesn't sound real. Classic, classic liar move. Right,

557
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: also pretty lame that she's just going after their servants, right,

558
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: She's really looking for like the most powerless people in

559
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: the situation and being like, let me point my finger

560
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: at you because you can't do anything about it. Really, yeah, exactly,

561
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: and people are willing to believe yeah. Yeah. So Meg

562
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: goes and tells the police next about this because she

563
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: got to keep the story going at this point, and

564
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: they're like really, like really though, because last time your

565
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: little lead wasn't so good. I know. We immediately debunked

566
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: that very quick. And she's like, oh, yes, no, I'll

567
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: never be able to prove what I said because it's

568
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: a lie. She said, I'll never be able to prove

569
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: what I said, So just kill me. Just bring me

570
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: some strict nine so I can kill myself. She asked

571
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: the police for strict nine to kill herself as a

572
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: way of emphasizing that she wouldn't be able to prove

573
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: her own story. Meg, come on, first of all, I

574
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: guess threatening suicide is a common dramatic French reaction that

575
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: things back then because everyone is just like if you

576
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: do it, I'll just give him my self, will scroll

577
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: myself from the Eiffel Tower. So the police are like,

578
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: all right, we'll bring him in. And they go and

579
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: they arrest Alexander Wolf and they bring him in. They

580
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: questioned him like, hey, she says that you and your

581
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: mother you've been making sure the boards don't squeak or

582
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: whatever evidence they and he's like, uh, okay, okay. Because

583
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: he's a big guy. Is there's a drawing up. He

584
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: looks like, you know, either a housekeeper's son or someone

585
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: who might kill somebody. I'm gonna say that from the portraits.

586
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't not suspect him anyway.

587
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Its coverage absolutely. He comes and he says yes. Except

588
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: the day of the crime, I had sold the horse

589
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: in the morning. In the afternoon, I was delivering it,

590
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: and then I had a few drinks with the buyer.

591
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: We spent the evening together in a cafe. We left

592
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: around eleven thirty pm. On my way home, I met

593
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: a couple other friends and we had late night drinks

594
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: at another cafe. I didn't get back to my own

595
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: house till around two am, and early the next morning

596
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: I sold another horse. Police are like, can we check

597
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: can we check on those alibis with they're all confirmed? Yeah, okay,

598
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that story I'll checked out with everybody pretty

599
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: rock salad alibi. And they're telling Meg like, hey, uh,

600
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: this whole Alexandra story isn't checking out, and she says, no, no, no, no,

601
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: he definitely came into my room, or I mean somebody

602
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: who looked just like him at least, So all of

603
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, now she's got a back door. I got

604
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: like a doppelganger running around, So like, really, come on,

605
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: Meg girl, you so full of random ship. I'd be

606
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: more suspicious at this point. Yeah, she's making a more suspicious.

607
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: They're like, why are you making up the story? She's like, well,

608
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: look the journalists, they were hounding me for a name,

609
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: and one of them told me that, oh, the story

610
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: about the black cloaks, that's not going to fly, that

611
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: won't print. Well, so you got to come up with

612
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: something else, So blame the journalists. I'm just a crazy widow.

613
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: What do I know. I don't know what I'm saying.

614
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay again, not looking good And they're like, okay, Marguerite,

615
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, under arrest because she is a suspect because

616
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: she's acting Hella suspicious. She's giving two false accusations so far.

617
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: She's just full of ship. Yeah, and they're like, Okay,

618
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: she planted easily disproven evidence and then told an easily

619
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: disproven story. Yeah. So she's in Saint Lazar prison for

620
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: a year before her trial happens. Okay, that's a bit

621
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: much a long time. Yeah, you shouldn't be able to

622
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: hold people for that long. Don't get arrested in France,

623
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: I've heard, and Italy. I hear. Getting arrested in Italy's

624
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: real bad news. Don't get arrested period. Wherever you're at,

625
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: probably best to not be locked up. I think you

626
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: can get arrested in like Sweden, and it's great. It's

627
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: like a day at the spa. It's like a little

628
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: do you want a little vacation? You just go swipe

629
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: a boot her finger from a Swedish gas station, a

630
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: booter finger. I was like, what they boot fingering a

631
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: Swedish speed and stavorite candy bear. Anyway, the point is

632
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: they want to rehabilitate you in Sweden. Okay, So there,

633
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: iss sidivism rate is very low, even though their prisons

634
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: are very comfortable, but anyway, whatever, So she's arrested. She's

635
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: languishing in prison for a year. The housekeeper, Marriett is

636
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: super pissed that Meg falsely accused her son of murder.

637
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Makes sense, get it? That would we can all get that.

638
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: So she starts throwing around some accusations of her own

639
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: because she knows all a Meg's business, as we are aware.

640
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: And so she sits down with the prosecutors and she's like, oh,

641
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: I think that Meg was trying to get Adolf knocked

642
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: off because remember Maurice Borderell, who she was in love with,

643
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: who wouldn't marry her because she would be a divorcee.

644
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: Well it's okay to be a widow, isn't it. So

645
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: she's trying to get her old husband out of the

646
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: way so she can get this wealthy man's ring on

647
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: her finger. I mean, better motive than Alexandra or like

648
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: letting some boards creak around, and she's like, now they're murderers.

649
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: That's a big squeaky boards. So the case is the

650
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: talk of the town and when the trial starts, only

651
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: a hundred people are allowed in at a time. This

652
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: thing is harder to get tickets to than production of

653
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Hamilton's Right, and it is which we're very hard to get, which,

654
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: if you don't know, if you unaware, very hard to get.

655
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: So she gets in. The trial starts, and the judge

656
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: is like, okay, Madam Spinal, let's start by going through

657
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: all of your affairs, and he just starts name and

658
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: names bing bang Boo all the way down the list

659
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: notably did not mention President Felix for I guess the

660
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: judicial system was like, let's not rupt the government into this,

661
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: but definitely pretty much everyone else. And she's like, he

662
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: is not on my side. The judge already has his

663
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: mind made up, she said. Before the trial even started,

664
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: the judge said she was guilty. A New York Times

665
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: report said he called her stories disuse of lies. And

666
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: if you remember from part one, this guy scuard Real,

667
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: who Meg called, quote a well groomed and boring poser

668
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: who seemed to think that every woman at once fell

669
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: in love with you. Oh yeah, that guy. He's like

670
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: one of the first guys she met in the salon world. Well,

671
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: guess who the prosecutor is in her case? The well

672
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: groom boring and he said there are two women in

673
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: that creature, the woman with the musical, chanting, caressing voice

674
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: who conkers and deceives, and the woman who threatens, attacks

675
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: and stops at nothing. He said, there's no struggle or violence.

676
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: He thinks the whole thing with an act. He said,

677
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: the lock was not tampered with. The key to the

678
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: house was in the keyhole on the other side, on

679
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: the inside of the house. Somebody had to have let

680
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: these attackers in, and he thought it was Meg. He's like,

681
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: she hates her husband, she's broke, she wants to marry

682
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: this wealthy dude. Why did these so called robbers leave

683
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of jewels behind after they killed this guy? Yeah,

684
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: because there was They took some, but there was a

685
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: whole mess of stuff left behind after after the murder.

686
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: And he's also like, and those ropes around her neck,

687
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: we're so loose that she could have easily freed herself

688
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: if she wanted to, and so on and so forth.

689
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: So he's just he's just flinging things out like this

690
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: don't make sense. This don't connect, This don't make sense,

691
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: Like make it makes sense. There's a lot that doesn't

692
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: make sense. I mean, the thing about the keyhole inside

693
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: the door. That's like, even if one of them had

694
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: stolen a key and that's how I got in, They're

695
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: not going to leave the key on the inside on

696
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: our way out. Let me leave this for you. Very polite. Again,

697
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: I don't know the blackmailer was very polite. Maybe these

698
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: robbers were also very like, well, I would hate the

699
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: wind convenience you, but after I killed your mother and father,

700
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: it would be like a mugger, like pistol whipping you,

701
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: taking your wallet, but then giving your license back. He's

702
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: so annoying to get that. I'm not a monster, and

703
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't want you to sit at the d m V.

704
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So it's uh, it's quite a case

705
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: they're building. So eventually they bring Marguerite. So she comes

706
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: out on the stand and she is crying, shing it.

707
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: She actually knows everything to say, Oh you got a question, boom,

708
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: I got an answer. Sticking to my story about the

709
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: black cloaks, Why do you falsely accused people? I was

710
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: in the panic. How come they killed your mother and

711
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: husband but left you alive when you had seen their

712
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: fishy I think they wanted me to strangle myself. The

713
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: ropes tightened around my neck every time I moved. Why

714
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: was the rope around your next loose? No surprise, dummy,

715
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: I didn't move. Next question. You know, that was a

716
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: very rude answer. She's just she's handling it really well. Also,

717
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: like the key from the inside of the house. She

718
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: said that the gardener there was three keys, and the

719
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: gardener had lost his three weeks ago. And she said

720
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: that she had actually asked Adolph several times to change

721
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: the locks, and he kept telling her, don't worry about it,

722
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: it's no problem. So you know, that makes sense. Kind

723
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: of sounds like Adolph. At the same time, here you go,

724
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm putting it on a dead guy, so you can't

725
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: ask him. Yeah, it's always someone else. It's just convenient, right.

726
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: At one point during the trial, a young man named

727
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: Renee Collard stepped forward and claimed he was the real assassin,

728
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: but the judge later said, as quoted in the New

729
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: York Times, this is nothing more than a joke. The

730
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: inquiry has established that this was a crack brained youth

731
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: whose parents have stated that he followed the case passionately

732
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: and has previously attempted to intervene. He just wanted some

733
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Yeah, there's something you want to see his

734
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: name in the paper or something. Always one of those

735
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: it feels like, which is so weird to be, like,

736
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: let me go say I did a crime I didn't do,

737
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: but what and then they're going to definitely find out

738
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: that I didn't do it. I guess we're stay in

739
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: his name now, so you got what he wanted. Guess.

740
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things to me where I'm like,

741
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: you know what, some people are just glitchy n PCs.

742
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: You know some people out there in the world that

743
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: they're not thinking. They're just running on a program, and

744
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: every once in a while they just glitch and do

745
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: something crazy. It's the only explanation I can come up with.

746
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it is better than the other explanation, which

747
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: is that people are weird and crazy. Well, I guess

748
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: that's probably also true. True. Yeah, that that is a

749
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: bit of a glitch. So the prosecution steps up and says, okay,

750
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to was a housekeeper. But over the

751
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: year that Meg was in jail, maybe they shouldn't have

752
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: kept her in so long because Marriott's attitude had totally

753
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: changed and she now refused to incriminate Meg see they

754
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: should have gotten here while she was hot and angry.

755
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: I had everything they wanted to hear. But at this

756
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: point she's like, no, that's my that's that's my girl.

757
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: You know. It's like I got really into meditation. I've

758
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: decided not to hold grudges. So the prosecution then says, oh, well,

759
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: then they're probably in it together Meg and the housekeeper,

760
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: you know. Oh yes, Look it was all a set up.

761
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: Meg said, if we kill my husband, then I can

762
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: go marry this rich guy and will bring you in

763
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: as the new housekeeper, and then you the fresh job

764
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: with a younger guy. It'll last a lot longer. Ah ha,

765
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: got you. I mean again with the drive bys, Like

766
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: are you into this? Maryette apparently caught wind of this

767
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: and walked up to the stand and was like, excuse me,

768
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: I understand that I am being accused of murder, and like,

769
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: I really really piste off about it. She's like course, yeah.

770
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: She was not having it. They had to ask her

771
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: to leave. I like Marriott. She's like, oh, what then

772
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: do you say to me? I like, Mary, It's like,

773
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: I know you think I'm just a little housekeeper and

774
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do anything, but I will come

775
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: for you. There's this passage in Meg's book where she

776
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: when Mariette confronts her after she initially accused her son,

777
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: and she's telling her like, don't you say anything, or

778
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell him everything about you, And that conversation apparently

779
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: ends with Maryette saying, I just need to go get drunk.

780
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I can do. I just have

781
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: to get drunk, drunk, drunk, drunk. And I couldn't tell

782
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: if that was Meg like trying to paint her in

783
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: a bad light or Marriott's just fucking great like that.

784
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Let me coadd a fucking cocktail a few people right now,

785
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: and that's to get a blackout dropping she's a wine mom.

786
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: So Meg's defense attorney gets up because it's their time

787
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: to shine now and runs an absolute disk track on

788
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: the prosecution, basically just painting Meg as this kind and attentive,

789
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: devoted friend and even wife. He starts busting out all

790
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: the letters from various friends and family members that he's got.

791
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: Here's a letter from a friend about how kind she

792
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: was to loan them some money. Here's a letter from

793
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: her mom about how much they love each other. Here's

794
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: one where mom says, try to learn, my adored one,

795
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: to think of yourself and to forget wanting always to

796
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: please others. Here's a testimony from a nist who says

797
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Madame Steinhart was extremely kind and attentive to her husband

798
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: and cared about his health, seeing to it that he

799
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: followed the diet prescribed to him. Basically, he's like, if

800
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: she wanted him dead, she could have just let him die.

801
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: By letting him die from whatever was right, she was

802
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work to keep him alive, Like,

803
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: why bother if she wanted him dead, what's the point

804
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: of all that? I also love how many different countries

805
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: that letter was from. It's like France, a little, Russia, Ireland,

806
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: he's a European, Okay, Frans European. He's like, I've been everywhere. Yeah.

807
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: So He's like, and if and if you don't think

808
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: that she was attentive to her husband, check out all

809
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: of these letters they wrote to each other constantly. I

810
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: got them all right here. And he pulls out all

811
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: these little notes and letters that between them, because remember

812
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: everything important between them they always put in in writing.

813
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: That was their whole deal. That shit paid nice. Always

814
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: have the receipt and they probably didn't even care that.

815
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: It wasn't like love notes. It was just like, look,

816
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: there they communicate constantly because because they weren't speaking to

817
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: each other. You know, yeah, we're gonna leave that part out.

818
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: That's awesome, these letters between her and her mom, Like

819
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: there's no reason she would have murdered her mother too,

820
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: Like that's that's one of the key elements of this

821
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: whole case is even if she wanted to kill her husband,

822
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: why would she kill her mother? And initially the prosecution

823
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: tried to paint it as a witness thing, and they

824
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: realized that wasn't going to play like, oh, she saw

825
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: her kill her husband, so she had to kill her too,

826
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: But that didn't fly. And honestly, the prosecution kind of

827
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: tried to just downplay the mother's death at all and

828
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: be like very focused on her husband getting killed and

829
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: like we'll deal with the mother thing later, but for now,

830
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: she killed her husband and that's the main thing. But

831
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: the defense wasn't having it. They're like, no, that's the

832
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: second dead body, and a huge element of this case.

833
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: You can't just brush it away, right, That is really stupid.

834
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: Defense is also like I'm sorry, did you all say

835
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: that she killed Adolph so she could marry Maurice Bardell. Well,

836
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: let me get Maurice back up here real quick. Ask

837
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: him a couple of questions. Hey, Maurice, did you ever

838
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: give her any reasons to hope that you would marry her?

839
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: And Maurice says no, I cannot conceive of any. There

840
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: was no thought in me of marrying again. I did

841
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: not want to raise my youngest daughter with a stepmother.

842
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: So the defense is like, there's no conceivable reason why

843
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: Meg would have thought, Oh, I'll kill my husband and

844
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: then marry this guy who doesn't even want to marry me. Also,

845
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: do you all think seriously that a widow entrenched in

846
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: a sensational murder trial was somehow going to be a

847
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: better prospect for a bride to a guy who didn't

848
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: even want to marry. A divorce like this falls apart

849
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: the moment you look at it, so you've got nothing.

850
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: This is dumb. If it was this, then it was that,

851
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: and this and that don't make sense. So I rest

852
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: my case. We're done here, Dung dung, gavel, gavel. We

853
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: all want to get home in time for dinner. Come on,

854
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: we're friends, we love dinner, Yes, and takes a long time.

855
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: It takes six hours. Yes, it's almost it's almost two o'clock.

856
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: It this time for dinner. They're putting down the bread basket.

857
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: Bread though. So the jury goes to deliberate for three hours.

858
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: Marguerite is in tears. She's meeting with people and everyone's

859
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: telling her, your acquittal is at hand. Any minute now,

860
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: you're going to be free. I you know, it's going

861
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: to be all right, but it's just taking a long time.

862
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: And guards at the courthouse they're asking her to sign

863
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: her autograph on pictures they have of her, which she

864
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: thought was sweet. She said like, oh, these, you know,

865
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: they're just they're gonna go make a lot of money

866
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: off of these. She was like, you, I'll help him out. Yeah, sure,

867
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: I'll sign my picture for you, because either way, however,

868
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the case turns out. Yeah, absolutely. A bell rang. She

869
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: stands up. Someone tells her the jury has summoned the judge,

870
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: and the room goes silent. Slowly people trickle in, but

871
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: even that takes hours, and she's so nervous about the

872
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: silence because everyone's all cheerful and talkative up till now,

873
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: so now they're all being really quiet. They must be

874
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: suppressing really bad news. A guard whisper steward, I've seen

875
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: this before. You're good. You're totally acquitted, I can tell.

876
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: But in the corner of the room, she overhears two

877
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: others saying, oh, she's done. For no way. The jury

878
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: would have summoned the juge if they were going to acquit.

879
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Plus they would have known by now. So she's hell

880
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: of nervous because if she were found guilty, she faced

881
00:51:52,160 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: execution by uh, you guessed it. Let no still nineteen

882
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: o eight. The last guillotine execution was in nineteen seventy seven.

883
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: That's bad. And even then, the last execution was in

884
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: seventy seven, but they didn't officially outlawed until one, at

885
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: which point they outlawed all capital punishment in France, so

886
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: they went from chopping people's heads off to you know what,

887
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: let's just not care about none of that. I think

888
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: we overdid it for long enough that we can just

889
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: take a break from the whole thing for years. We're good.

890
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: We scratched that itch. At one thirty in the morning,

891
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the bell rang twice, then a horrendously loud uproar deafened Meg.

892
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: She couldn't understand what was happening. Then she started hearing

893
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: people say acquitted, acquitted, acquitted, blur. She was walking out

894
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: of there a free person. That case totally fell apart,

895
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: But we're left with the question who did it? Who

896
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: did it? Who killed them? Who the funk killed these

897
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: two people? What was it all about? Yes, there's so

898
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: many pieces left over. I mean, the case fell apart.

899
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like Meg did it, but we really

900
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: are left with a lot of questions and pieces to

901
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: pick apart. So we're going to analyze this evidence real quick.

902
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: Take another short little break. As soon as we come back,

903
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna break it down. All right, Welcome back to

904
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: the show. And now that we're back, we're gonna have

905
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: to pull this train right into speculation station because there's

906
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: too much left after this murder trial. There's too many questions,

907
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: and to this day we don't have a lot of

908
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: the answers. Part of it is that there are definitely

909
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: newspaper clippings at the time. There's a lot of information.

910
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't that long ago. There's plenty of

911
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: info you can get um, but a lot of the

912
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: circumstances that we have starving. These murders come from Meg's

913
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: own autobiography, which, as we've pointed out numerous times, is uh,

914
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, she paints herself in a special a light.

915
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: It's a bit of an unreliable narrator. Yeah, as most

916
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: of us probably are about our own lives. But still so,

917
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of questions left over. And one

918
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: of the key things, one of the keypias of evidence

919
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: which Meg's brings up so much in her autobiography and

920
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: then it just kind of drops off, is this pearl

921
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: necklace right that she got from the President. Now, it's

922
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: so interesting to me. She makes the biggest deal out

923
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: of it as we did. What is this necklace? Why

924
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: did the president give it to her? What are its origins?

925
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: Why is it so scary and dangerous to everyone who

926
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: talks about it? Why did that guy want it disassembled

927
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: and taken away in parts? Why did he want it

928
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: so bad? Um? But I think maybe even more to

929
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: the point was all of these documents that the necklace

930
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: was with. So that's why my speculation stage is that

931
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: this German guy arranged this home invasion, my god, because

932
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: we know he already knew where their private rooms were

933
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: he knew about the tapestry, the you know, murderers or

934
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: the home intruders. She said, we're there asked specifically for

935
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: the jewels, so they were probably really asking where is

936
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: You're safe with all the good stuff in it, right

937
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: she He knew she still had some of those pearls,

938
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: and he did want those ten pearls, and when he

939
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: found out she ain't telling them, he got to get

940
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: him some other way. I don't know, I just think

941
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: so maybe there's something to it. So you're thinking this

942
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: guy like learns about the pearls, goes in, scopes out

943
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: the house, realizes, Uh, she's got sharp eyes. I'm not

944
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get in there. She knows who

945
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: I am. Also, i gotta handle this differently, So I'm

946
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna hire, you know, some hands to go break in.

947
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell him where everything is somewhere in

948
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: the process, maybe unintentionally. Maybe maybe it was just one

949
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: of those cases like in the movies where they hire

950
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: some idiots to go in and do it and they

951
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: screw up and end up killing a couple of people.

952
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, ship, we better get out of here.

953
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: They leave the key, they don't get all the jewels.

954
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: They don't get the papers. You know, after they kill

955
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: an old man, an old woman, they're like, we gotta go,

956
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: we gotta go, we gotta go. They probably disappear, never

957
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: even see the German again. They probably take what jewels

958
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: they did steal and high tail it out of there,

959
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: and that was that, and then you know, took off,

960
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, probably ran away to Italy or something. We

961
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: never saw him again. I mean, honestly, it makes as

962
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: much sense as any of the stories Meg told. Seriously,

963
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I don't know. I know, France

964
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: and Germany, I don't know if they were allies or

965
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: whatever at that time. Whatever foreign prince was he related

966
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: to the Kaiser or something, do you know what I mean?

967
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: And like this German guy is like, I need to

968
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: get those proof of this necklace, like wiped from existence

969
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Let me go trace these pearls. You know,

970
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe he's he's working for the working for the government. Maybe.

971
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: So I'm a speculating station. I can say all kinds

972
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: of things from here. This is an international incident, obviously,

973
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, well she thought so. She thought it was

974
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: a foreign prince involved or some gambling thing. But the necklace.

975
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I don't know, it's pretty intense

976
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: pulling out of the station. Just wrap up, Meg, here,

977
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: she's free now, right, She's free to go. She the

978
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: court's ruled that she did not kill her mother and husband,

979
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: but Paris was not as welcoming to her as they

980
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: once were. The court of public opinion had a very

981
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: different idea, I guess, the world's cruelest court. They were

982
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: kind of still split down the middle about her innocence,

983
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: and she didn't really have the the reception that she

984
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: once had in Paris. If only you'd killed your husband

985
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: through a blow job, you'd still be popular. We'd be

986
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: okay with it. So she decided, you know what, all right,

987
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: I think my time in Paris is done, and she

988
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: moved up to London. She took a new name, Madame

989
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: de Serenac, just to avoid, you know, the association, the

990
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: many stories that she's accumulated over the years. He aught

991
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: to you the blow job woman. At least she didn't

992
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: call me the woman who killed my mother and husband.

993
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: Oh yes, no, that one too. I forgot all about that.

994
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: It's thank you for reminding me. But in Meg wrote

995
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: her memoirs. The autobiography we've been speaking of throughout this

996
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: widely considered to be, as we said, whitewashed, cleaned up,

997
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: embellished accounts of what happened, especially between the time of

998
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: the president's death and the death of her husband and mother.

999
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: That sort of time in between people like this doesn't

1000
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: line up. This is all her kind of justifying her

1001
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: own crazy actions that she took during the trial, because

1002
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: she says in the autobiography, it's regularly written like I

1003
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: hope the reader understands that when I say this, you

1004
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: know this is what I meant by it, and stuff

1005
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: like that. She's she publishes notes from the trial like

1006
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: other people's notes in the book, and it's like, let

1007
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: me break it down for you and say what I

1008
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: meant when I said this, and things like that. It's

1009
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: she's very clearly like trying to make a puff piece

1010
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: about herself. And that's fine. You're writing your own autobiography.

1011
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: You can make yourself sound however you like, and we're

1012
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: going to take it with a grain of salt, exactly,

1013
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: and we're going to sniff around your book going smells

1014
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: faintly of bullshit, getting a little bit of bullshit here,

1015
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: just a whiff smack of bullshit. I'm getting notes of cherry,

1016
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of bullshit. But in nineteen seventeen she

1017
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: did marry again, man named Robert Brooke Campbell Scarlet, sixth

1018
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Baron of Avenger, and he died ten years later after

1019
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: they were married in nineteen and Marguerite lived until nineteen

1020
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: fifty four, when she died in a nursing home in

1021
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: Sussex at eight five years old. So quite a life.

1022
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: She's pretty good. She did. She kept herself out of prison,

1023
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: she found herself baroness. Yeah, yeah, it's not bad, It's okay,

1024
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: you know. I just I think Marguerite is a kook.

1025
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: I think she's an embellisher. I think she's got a

1026
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: lot of crazy stories that probably don't hold up historically.

1027
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't think she killed anybody. I don't think I

1028
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: think that either. I feel like she it seems far fetched. Yeah,

1029
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: it's really the mother that throws the whole thing out

1030
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: the window for me. I agree. They seem to have

1031
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: a fine relationship. And it's not like she was like,

1032
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 1: thank God, my mom's dead. I'm sure she was really

1033
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: sad about that. I mean, whether or not she was

1034
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: sad about Adolf, like that's up right here. But yeah,

1035
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: the mom is weird. I don't know, she's got tangled

1036
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: up in something, and uh, I think she was really

1037
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: bad at trying to to overcorrect it in her favor.

1038
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: She definitely went about it the wrong way. She should

1039
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: have just been like, you know what, I don't know

1040
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: what happened. All I know as I woke up, I

1041
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Speaker 1: was tied up, I was naked. Hopefully that was her.

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: She went to bed naked. I don't know what she

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: was naked. I hope she just slept naked. And we

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01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: don't have these a weird random robbers that are like

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: also strip all her clothes up right, so she won't

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01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: run into the street. I don't know anyway, Maybe she

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: just went to bed naked. I don't know. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it seems like it would be easy enough

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: to make a bumbling criminal movie where they get hired

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: by some guy to steal a necklace and he tells

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: them there should be three people in the house, the husband,

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01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: the wife, and the daughter, and then they went in

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: and they saw an older woman and an older man

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: and a younger woman in the daughter's room. Maybe they

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01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,479
Speaker 1: were even like, we know he's a polite German guy.

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he was like, don't hurt the daughter. Yeah, a

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01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: little kid. Yeah, that's what I think. She's like tire up,

1058
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: so she can't, you know, run around and get you caught.

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01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: The other two. Do whatever you want. I don't care

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: if you have to kill him. You have to kill him,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Get me that necklace or those documents

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01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: or both or whatever he's looking for. And so they

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: were like, okay, well we'll ask the daughter where the

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: safest will take care of everything. And yeah, she just

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01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: got mistaken, as she even said, I as we said

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01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: in part one, she even said she didn't want to

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01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: marry at OFLF because she said people would think she

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: was his daughter. So she even said that that lines

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Speaker 1: up to with the fact that she said she heard

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Speaker 1: the woman say finish her off and the guy said, no, no,

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: leave the girl alone. The girl alone. That's what the

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01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: boss said. You know, Oh man, I'm willing to ruin

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01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: her life and prospects of marriage if I don't get

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01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: this necklace, but don't kill her. That's too much. President mcrown,

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01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: I know you're listening. Uh. We think we might have busted.

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01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: This case wide open, So give us a call, will you.

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01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: I know Macron is a long time listener um yet

1078
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: to be first time caller, but I know he's going

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01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: to call in at some point he's going to send

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: us an email it and you know what, President mccron

1081
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: or anyone. You can email us at Romance at iHeart

1082
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: Media dot com right or slide into the d M

1083
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: s on Twitter and Instagram. I'm at Dianamite boom, I'm

1084
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: at oh Grade, it's Eli. Or if you don't want

1085
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: to hit us up directly, if it's some sort of

1086
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 1: like legal thing there, that's fine, you can go ahead

1087
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: and hit the show up at ridic Romance. Yeah. If

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01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: we just want to add, you know, kind of clean

1089
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: up the paper trails some here, you can also call us,

1090
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: but we'll put our cell phone number, uh directly, We'll

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01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: mail it to the French governy. I feel like I

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01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: don't answer numbers. I don't know so, but if I

1093
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: do get a number on my phone from France in

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01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: the next couple of days, I will answer. So. Oh

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: can't what a story, Marguerite Stein, Uh too much for

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01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: one episode? Thanks for sticking with us through two parts.

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01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: Because this is a two part story. She had a

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: lot of love, a lot of ridiculous romance going on

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Speaker 1: in her life. It's almost like, know, spread it around

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Speaker 1: a little marguerite, because you know, some of us get

1101
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: to just have a president die while we're having sex

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Speaker 1: with them. Some of us have our husbands and mothers murdered.

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: You know, you spread the stories around a little bit.

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01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: You don't get both of those sensations. Got so many sensations.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot. But she was a lot of a person.

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01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, she had a lot going on. As she said,

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01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: she could never just sit in and dumb resignation, and

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01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: she didn't, and she did not. I don't think dumb

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Speaker 1: resignation ever found her. I mean I guess, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Good for you. Yes, she lived alone. I mean she

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01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: did some weird ship, but I don't think she deserved

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Speaker 1: to go to jail for murder or anything. So I

1113
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: don't think she got away with anything. Yeah, I feel

1114
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: like she just had a really wild, really exciting life

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Speaker 1: worth writing a book about. For sure, Good for you

1116
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: writing that book. We definitely liked reading it or standing it.

1117
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: And also if you want to read her autobiography, it

1118
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: is on Project Gutenberg for freeze, so you just google

1119
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: it and all the whole text is online enough to

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Speaker 1: steal it or anything. It's just out there. So thanks

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01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: so much for tuning in everyone. Uh, I'm so excited

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01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: to hear from you again and we look forward to

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Speaker 1: the next episode. Yeah, see you next time. So long, friends,

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Speaker 1: it's time to go. Thanks so listening to our show,

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: tell your friends names, Uncle s indece to listen to

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Speaker 1: our show ridiculous Well Nance