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Speaker 2: At the University of Alabama kind of goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: We are live high atop a stormy downtown Tuscaloose, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Pate State Speaker series on the road.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Kaylin de Boor for a lengthy chat

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Speaker 2: We got the Clemson Mood Tracker. Tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and answer in April, who legitimately can

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Speaker 1: Is there a difference than those two Yes, kids, there is.

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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Monroe, Louisiana, Fargo, North Dakota, Akron, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: and beautiful Alabaster, Alabama. If you haven't been following on

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Speaker 1: Josh great behind the scenes content from here today. I've

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Speaker 1: tires have gotten wobbly over the last few years. They

438
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Speaker 1: haven't fallen off, to take it from someone who had

439
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: to get a tire adjusted today, they haven't fallen off.

440
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 2: But it's wobbly. You know, it's not elite.

441
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 1: It's not exactly running as smoothly as it was. It's

442
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 1: really hard to maintain that altitude that they had as

443
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Speaker 1: a program a few years ago. They've just it seems

444
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: like forgotten. The combination locker still looks the same. Everything

445
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: in stile is still the same. Can we just get

446
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: the combination remembered? Or in more practical terms, can we

447
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: figure out the wide receiver room?

448
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: We can we make that room look like did a

449
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: few years ago?

450
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: We had monsters in there, We littered the first and

451
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: second rounds of the NFL Draft.

452
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: Not so much now.

453
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Speaker 1: Candidly, having your ear to the ground in South Carolina

454
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Speaker 1: this spring, it sounds like they're probably upgrading from an

455
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: athlete to athlete perspective in the wide receiver room. My

456
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: fingers are tightly crossed on that prospect. So you want that.

457
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: You want Garrett Riley, who I thought was one of,

458
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: if not the biggest assistant coach additions in the entire

459
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: industry last year at offensive coordinator. You want there to

460
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: be really, really big year one to year two jump.

461
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: You want that quarterback Kay Klubnick to play out of

462
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: his mind this year. Basically, you want a lot from

463
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: positions that have delivered at an elite level this year

464
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: like they have in the past. It's not so much

465
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Speaker 1: to ask, is it. You know that you're not scrapped

466
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Speaker 1: for resource there. Now there's some uncertainty around you. There's

467
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Speaker 1: some uncertainty as to what conference you're going to be

468
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Speaker 1: playing it in five years, but that doesn't matter.

469
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Speaker 2: This year.

470
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Speaker 1: You got access, you got plenty of rowdes. The FSU

471
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: example from last year. Notwithstanding, no one's getting left out

472
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: of a twelve team playoff if they go undefeated. I'd argue,

473
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Speaker 1: no one's getting left out if you even have one

474
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: loss in these Power four conferences, especially the ACC, I'm

475
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Speaker 1: going to argue that and hope it's true. So the

476
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 1: other thing is no one has claimed your throne over there.

477
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Speaker 1: If you're a Clemson fan, the worst thing that could

478
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: happen is you fell off and then someone was there

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: to grab the crown, and then they just kicked you

480
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: down the hill. Like Florida State won the conference last year,

481
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: but if you look at the fan duel odds right now,

482
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: it's Clemson, it's Florida State, like Miami's not too far off.

483
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: No one has become the presumptive favorite at your expense.

484
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Speaker 1: It's just kind of viewed still as a coin flip

485
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Speaker 1: any given year.

486
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Speaker 2: It was this way last year, guys. And then we lost.

487
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Speaker 1: If I'm talking as a Clemson fan, we lost to

488
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Speaker 1: Duke in week one.

489
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Speaker 2: We were already a two loss team by week four

490
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Speaker 2: or week five. I want to say.

491
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Speaker 1: Turnovers were a huge problem for us. It's not major things,

492
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: it's minor things. I'm not even getting into the whole

493
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: will or won't Dabbo dive into the portal like that's

494
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: its whole other show. And I'd love love to get

495
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: him on the show one day to discuss that. Probably

496
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: in the summer, that's probably where we would be free

497
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Speaker 1: enough to discuss such things. But the thing's still wide open.

498
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: The ACC is still wide open. The door you know

499
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: that Clemson kind of got pushed out of it's still open.

500
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: It hasn't slammed shut, so everything could still be rectified.

501
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: And righted there.

502
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Speaker 1: And I I don't know if I would label it

503
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Speaker 1: freak out.

504
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Speaker 2: I don't think Clemson fans have freaked out about that

505
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: stuff at all.

506
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: But I do think that they kind of look back

507
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: in their rear view mirror a little bit, and then

508
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: they're looking down at the gear shift, like, where's the R,

509
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: the R the R. We actually want to go back.

510
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: We want to go back to the way it was. Well,

511
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: you can't do that, However, you can make adjustments to

512
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: where the future looks like the past. I wish the

513
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: music industry would do the same thing, so Clemson, the

514
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: music industry.

515
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Speaker 2: It would just be great for everyone. Where have we

516
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: been all day?

517
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: You got to stop and think, because we've been on

518
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Speaker 1: the road for a while, and we will be on

519
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: the road for a while because the Peate State Speaker

520
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: Series stops.

521
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: For no man or management.

522
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: So we've been at Alabama all day today. It's been

523
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: really fun. We've seen a whole lot. I really wish

524
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: that I could just kind of wear one of those

525
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: miners helmets that has a light on it, and I

526
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: could put a camera in there and no one could

527
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: see it, and I could just show you around and

528
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: let you be privy to all the conversations. But that

529
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: would be unethical, they tell me, So we can't do that.

530
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: So we had to leave the miner's helmet in the car.

531
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: The battery had died anyway. But what I do want

532
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: to talk to you about is what it's like in

533
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: this building right now. This is the premiere programm in

534
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: college football, it has been for a long time. Then

535
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: you have an iconic head coach step down. And for

536
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: all the talk around college football about who knew Nick

537
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: Saban was going to retire? When did people know? No

538
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: one knew, Guys, no one knew. I'm talking to several

539
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: folks in this building today that were intimately familiar with him,

540
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: talking with him day to day new So it was

541
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: a shock to pretty much everyone, just like it was

542
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: to me. I was checking out at publics when the

543
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: news went public, and so I had to rush back

544
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: over to the studio.

545
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: You all remember where you were, so this could have

546
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: been a disaster.

547
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: And if you asked me five years ago, you know, generically,

548
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: whenever Saban retires, how tough is it gonna be. I

549
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: did segments on this if you recall, I said, just

550
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: enjoy it while you can, you know, because whatever happens,

551
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a steep drop off. And now we're here.

552
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna have Kaylin Debor on the show in

553
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: a few minutes. He's gonna talk to you about how

554
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: he sees it. But I'm talking to you about how

555
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I saw it today. And being around this program a

556
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: fair amount, what a vibe change in this building and

557
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: had everyone you talk to, every staffer you talk to

558
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: who's been here from the previous regime to this regime,

559
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: they're always quick to say, it's so different here. It's

560
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: not worse, it's not better, or maybe it's for the better.

561
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: It's just different though.

562
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: So anyway, I talked to several people about that before

563
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: I came here, and they said, well, you'll see, you'll

564
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: see when you're there. It took like ten minutes of

565
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: being in the building for me to realize, wow, it's

566
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: a little different here. Don't know if I can explain

567
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: that to you. You just have to experience that energy

568
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: for yourself. But I cannot stress enough how disastrous this

569
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: could have been. Nick Saban stepping down in January, it's

570
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: not December one, It's well into January. Nick Saban steps down.

571
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Speaker 1: I cannot in strong enough terms describe to you how

572
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: well they threaded the needle here. And I'm not just

573
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: talking about from a talent retention standpoint. They lost, like

574
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Caleb downs to the portal. They lost a few guys

575
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: to the portal. Some of them may be in the

576
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: process of finding their way back.

577
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Speaker 2: It could have been a disaster.

578
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: And frankly, talking to some folks here, the worst fears

579
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Speaker 1: were that it was.

580
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Speaker 2: Going to be that way. And man, they Kaylin de

581
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: Bor got in here.

582
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Speaker 1: He got his staff in here, and they steadied the

583
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Speaker 1: ship enough to where they kept a chunk, a large

584
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: chunk of vast majority of this roster, the guys they

585
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: wanted to for the most part, and got good staffers

586
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: in place. So this is something that I've touched on

587
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: for a while on the show before we ever came

588
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: down here. But it's a sentiment that's been echoed in

589
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: the building from a lot of people I've talked to

590
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: today is they understand very solidly and they're not shy

591
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: about telling you they got a really good defensive staff here.

592
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: Everyone understands that Kaylin de Bor's offensive staff and his

593
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: side of the ball will be very effective because we've

594
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: watched it like we watched it at Washington and even

595
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: before that. What I'm trying to tell you and what

596
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I think you'll see pretty quickly this fall is they upgraded.

597
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: They didn't just maintain like Alabama, upgraded the caliber of

598
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Speaker 1: coach they have.

599
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: On the defensive side of the ball.

600
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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure people saw that coming, and I'm

601
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: not sure I saw it coming. That's something that really

602
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: stands out. It's glaring is a word that.

603
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: A lot of people use to describe that.

604
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: So I don't need to hype him up like they'll

605
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: play football eventually this fall.

606
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: But that's one thing.

607
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: And number two is they are about to probably get

608
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: after it a little bit in this post spring portal window.

609
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: Everybody knows it's coming and they're not gonna be the

610
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: only ones. But you know, we've been on the road

611
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: to Fairmount this spring. I told some coaches here today

612
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you one of the big fears out

613
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: there in the in the portal world, in the player

614
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: personnel departments around the country is everybody's kind of looking

615
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: out of one eye at Tuscaloosa and wondering what kind

616
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: of move BAM is about to make? Plural what kind

617
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: of moves is BAM about to make in the portal

618
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: post spring several would be my guess.

619
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Speaker 2: Several.

620
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: I think they got a plan of attack, and I

621
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: think it will be very effective.

622
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: So that's coming. And the other thing.

623
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Speaker 1: Is I'm gonna let Kaylen Debor talk about it a

624
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: little bit more when we have him on the show

625
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: in just a second. But you know, when Nick Saban

626
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: stepped down, there was a lot of talk about how

627
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: no one wants to follow a legend. And you know,

628
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: you've heard that many many times, and I've always told

629
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you that that's true in a sense that most people

630
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: believe that and that will always be true. It is

631
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: very intimidating to follow someone in any industry, any line

632
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: of work.

633
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: That was the best at what they did.

634
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: So I would say ninety seven or ninety eight percent

635
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: of personality types would be turned off by that. But

636
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the thing about a place like this you're not looking

637
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: for a ninety seven percenter. You're looking for like a

638
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: one percenter or a two percenter. The benefit for you

639
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: is those people look at this sort of situation as

640
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: a golden opportunity because they look at themselves and they say, hey,

641
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm one of the best there is. They're never going

642
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: to say it publicly unless they're just a douchebag, but

643
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: they believe that about themselves, and so they don't care

644
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: about dropping the ball. What they do care about is

645
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: all the infrastructures in place. And believe me, it is

646
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: because this place is like NASA, So all the infrastructures

647
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: in place. And you're telling me that I'm going to

648
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: go from Seattle to Tuscaloosa, and I've got virtually unlimited staff,

649
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: and I've got virtually unlimited resource, and I think the

650
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: recruiting piece is already starting to show itself to be

651
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: a lot more effective than you know, some doubters thought

652
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: it would be. Where's the downside? What people are going

653
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: to have high expectation like that's I've just tried to

654
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: articulate this, and I think you'll hear it in our

655
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: talk with Kaylen Debora. Momentarily that's just not on the radar,

656
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Kaylendbor for like thirty minutes. Now,

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721
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Speaker 1: when sitting down with Kaylendebor to just go ahead and

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724
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Speaker 1: for the crew here, for the crew punching the buttons

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Speaker 1: down in Fort Lauderdale, it's been a pleasure. We're going

729
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Speaker 1: on one with Jeff Levy on the channel at some

731
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Speaker 1: point tomorrow. We're going to be live from Auburn Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So we've got a loaded week on the Pate State

733
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Speaker 1: Speaker Series. But without further ado, here's our sitting down

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Speaker 1: with new Alabama head coach Kaitlin Debor. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how long you feel like you've been here. I feel

736
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Speaker 1: like in some ways you got here yesterday in some

737
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Speaker 1: way to feel like five years already.

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Speaker 2: But I'm really interested.

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Speaker 1: You just took over a major program, an institutional brand

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Speaker 1: in the sport. How long does it take you to

741
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Speaker 1: feel like you have fully assessed a program.

742
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Speaker 2: And a job when you inherit it. Yeah, time's flown by.

743
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: It's hard to believe.

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00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: It's already the beginning of April and we have nine

745
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: practices under our belt here this spring. I think, you know,

746
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: we got through the first month and that was I

747
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: think it's always different too. We came in the middle

748
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Speaker 3: of January, and so you know, your first thirty days

749
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Speaker 3: or sixty days, it's different if you're hired in December

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Speaker 3: versus the middle of January, and kind of where you're

751
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Speaker 3: at there, so hiring a staff and you know, kind

752
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 3: of keeping the roster attact.

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Speaker 2: There was a priority. Probably thirty to forty days in.

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Speaker 3: You kind of had a pretty good idea of kind

755
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Speaker 3: of where we're at, and I found a rhythm to

756
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Speaker 3: the day. It kind of a cadence as far as

757
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, the schedules that we had set, and so

758
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 3: it's just been awesome though, seeing these guys respond and

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00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: seeing the energy they continue to bring in the bar

760
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: that they've set. You know, there's a lot of high

761
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: aspirations and goals that we have for this season.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting when you walk around the building and when

763
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Speaker 1: you talk to people who have been here, who have

764
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Speaker 1: been here from the previous staff and your staff's here now.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's really careful to say it's different, not worse, not better,

766
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Speaker 1: it's just different. It's a different vibe. You'll feel it

767
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Speaker 1: when you walk in the building. And of course we

768
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Speaker 1: walked in the building today and we felt that how

769
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Speaker 1: would you describe the kind of culture atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: That you want to foster?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is exactly that. Those are some of

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Speaker 3: the exact words I use. An environment that.

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Speaker 2: Facilitate, that facilitate.

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Speaker 3: You know, every right coach and I think you're referring

775
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: to this leads in a different way. And there's multiple

776
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Speaker 3: ways to win a lot of football games. I've seen

777
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Speaker 3: it as an assistant and my chances to be an

778
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator at different places. I was under a lot

779
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Speaker 3: of really good head coaches and they all have their

780
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Speaker 3: different style and it does have a different feel and

781
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: it's it's good and the thing again, I go back to.

782
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Speaker 2: Just appreciating these guys.

783
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Speaker 3: We're open to the leadership and the people I've brought

784
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: in on this on this coaching staff. But you know

785
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Speaker 3: the I alreadyferred the aspirations. The goals are extremely high.

786
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: We know that's the case and always needs to be

787
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: the case here at Alabama. But you know how we

788
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: get there and what it feels like and what the

789
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Speaker 3: day to day vibe is.

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Speaker 2: You know it's going to be different no matter who

791
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: the head coach is going to be.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about this on our show, but

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Speaker 1: I would love to just hear it from you. There

794
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: is a phrase, it's almost like bumper sticker lodge. Everyone

795
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: just blindly repeats it. They always say, no one wants

796
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Speaker 1: to follow a legend, no one wants to be the

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Speaker 1: guy after a legend. A lot of people think that way.

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Speaker 1: Obviously not everyone thinks that way. So when this opportunity

799
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Speaker 1: was presented to you, how did you view the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I viewed it as Alabama Football and a great opportunity,

801
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: a great job with resources and getting a chance to

802
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: meet with Greg Burn just seeing his vision and how

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00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: passionate he was about this place and wanting to make

804
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: sure that the tradition and the pride continue on.

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Speaker 2: It's what I want to be a part of.

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Speaker 3: And I've had a chance, and it's I don't want

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00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: to say, you know, and speak in terms relatively to

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Speaker 3: coach Saban and what's been done here and the amazing

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00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: job he did for seventeen years. But you know, having

810
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: had a chance to follow at you know, other universities,

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Speaker 3: great coaches, you know, at Jeff Tedford and Pat Hill

812
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Speaker 3: at Fresno State, and at Chris Peterson was there not

813
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: soon before myself at Washington, and you know, you just

814
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Speaker 3: embrace that like it's a it's a privilege and an

815
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Speaker 3: honor to be at a place like this, and you know,

816
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Speaker 3: Coach Saban has done an amazing job of putting the

817
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Speaker 3: foundation in and you know, the infrastructure just that you

818
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Speaker 3: need to be successful. And so we'll continue to grow it,

819
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Speaker 3: We'll continue to build on it, you know, and continue

820
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Speaker 3: to make the alumni and fan base proud.

821
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Speaker 1: So we're here as we're recording, it's April second. I

822
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Speaker 1: assume you're kind of being immersed into a lot of

823
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824
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Speaker 1: So it's a whole new world down here in terms

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829
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Speaker 1: now has struck you? I know you spend a lot

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831
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Speaker 1: of these walls, what are some of the things that

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Speaker 1: already have been like, Oh, that's what it's like down here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to act like I've lived this

834
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Speaker 3: far south right, been in southern Illinois, recruited down in

835
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Speaker 3: this area, had a good feel, you know, the South Dakota. Honestly,

836
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: the South Dakota feel is probably one of the more

837
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Speaker 3: recognizable feels that I have relative to living here. Just

838
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Speaker 3: kind of rural and you know, just kind of those

839
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Speaker 3: type of things. I understand that there's a there's other

840
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: pieces to the culture and stuff too, so it is

841
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Speaker 3: its own kind of different animal here.

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Speaker 2: But it's been just really enjoyable.

843
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: And what I do know is that the fan base

844
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: is extremely passionate, and you know, there's just excited about

845
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: their ball and whether it's the spring game or just

846
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: following each and every practice here this spring, it's exciting

847
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: for myself, our staff, our guys to continue to build

848
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: and feel the energy and excitement. You know that that's

849
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: taking place as we get ready for twenty twenty four.

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00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: The whole talent acquisition aspect of college football, we used

851
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: to just call that recruiting, but now you kind of

852
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: lump it all in with nil and the portal.

853
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Speaker 2: When you guys came.

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00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: Here immediately, you you tried to retain guys as best

855
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Speaker 1: you could, and some you were successful on others hit

856
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 1: the exit door.

857
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Speaker 2: That is what it is. You can't control that.

858
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Speaker 1: So there's this perception that this post spring portal window,

859
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Speaker 1: you guys will be able to be very active there,

860
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: maybe more on the receiving end immediately when you walk in.

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Speaker 1: Is that's something you just look at and you say,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, let's hold on. If we can

863
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Speaker 1: get to there, then we'll make up some ground. Because

864
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Speaker 1: that used to not be the way it worked. You

865
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Speaker 1: the roster you've gotten year one, So what's it like

867
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Speaker 1: not to know, No, there's this half a month period

868
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: coming up where we can tangibly address this year's roster.

869
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as you said there in January, you know,

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Speaker 3: the thing you to realize that I know you do,

871
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: is we're a twelve and two team, you know, a

872
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: national semi final team, and so the talent that is

873
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: here is a high level of talent.

874
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: And there's guys that go to the NFL. And there

875
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: were some guys that had.

876
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: Entered the portal even before you know, either coach retired

877
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: or I had an opportunity to get the announce as

878
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: the head coach, so you know, that was what it was.

879
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: But really our only opportunities other than maybe a few

880
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: guys that were out there in the portal, was to

881
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: make sure that we really worked with our current roster

882
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: and kept the great talent that was here, you know,

883
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: all in line. And again I applaud our players. They

884
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 3: really believed in this place. They believed in the message

885
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: that was sent starting with Greg burn through the staff

886
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: that was that was you know, continued to work and

887
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: operate each and every day.

888
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Here, and they believed in themselves.

889
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: They believe that if they stuck together, you know that

890
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: we could continue on this path that's that they've been

891
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 3: on and this journey, and so we did. We dove

892
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: full into our roster, really trying to build a staff

893
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: and keep the roster at the same time. A lot

894
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: of long days, but I think we did a really

895
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: good job. I think the staff is great with building relationships,

896
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: and I think the player really enjoyed their personalities. And

897
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: we've come a long ways even since those early days

898
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: and going into this next portal window. There are some scholarship,

899
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: you know, scholarships that we have available where we can

900
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: fill some gaps in whether it be numbers or just

901
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: you know, talent. You know that we need to maybe

902
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: get out on the football field and some at some

903
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: high end spots. So we'll keep an eye, our eyes

904
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: and ears open for sure, and and you know, when

905
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: the right opportunities come up, will certainly be aggressive there.

906
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: How clear is it when you immediately inherit a rostring,

907
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: you guys, especially open spring ball. In relation to that

908
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: post spring portal window, I know there may be some

909
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: areas where you know, red sharpie circle it, we got

910
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: to address this, and then there may be others where

911
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: a spring goes on. You say, maybe that is a

912
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: little more of a position of need as we want

913
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: to install our thing here, maybe we don't have the

914
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: pieces we need. How much of that evolves throughout spring

915
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: as to who you need to pick up?

916
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: I think I think we had a pretty good idea

917
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: even going into Spring, just be because of sheer numbers,

918
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: you know.

919
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: And it's pretty easy.

920
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: I mean, anyone can look at our roster or see

921
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: who entered the portal and see that there was a

922
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: couple of position groups that were just short at you know,

923
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: a defensive backfield, offensive line, just those numbers that you

924
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: normally have. They aren't where they would would normally be

925
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: and where we'd like them to be. So you know,

926
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: we we gotta we gotta be ready, be ready there.

927
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: And so it has nothing to do with even the

928
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: level of talent that's on the football field for us

929
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 3: or us being nervous in that way. It's all about

930
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: just making sure you got enough guys to to get

931
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: through the season. You know, uh, you know DB's and

932
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: they're involved with special teams as well, you know on

933
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: you know, in a.

934
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: Lot of those reps.

935
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: So we gotta we got to make sure that we

936
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: have the right guy right numbers. For the most part,

937
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: you never hit exactly on the marks that you have set,

938
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: but you need to be we need to be a

939
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: little closer than where we are right now.

940
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: There's this belief in the South that I think has

941
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: some and then a lot of fiction to it, that

942
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: only certain people are cut out to recruit in the South.

943
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: And there's this tendency from folks who have been bored

944
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: and bred down here to look at outsiders who come

945
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: in and say, won't work out here, and on the streets,

946
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm paying attention, so you don't have two on the streets.

947
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I know you've heard this. A lot of people say, huh,

948
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: how well is that staff going to recruit down here.

949
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I've always maintained the formula for recruiting the South is

950
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: just relentless work and then knowing people, with the emphasis

951
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: on people instead of the emphasis on knowing. And so

952
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: I looked at you guys at Washington, and there was

953
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: never a criticism about how much you've worked.

954
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: There's not been a criticism here of how much you've worked.

955
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: And then I've looked at the logs of the official

956
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: visitors you've had here, and how many guys you just

957
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: had on campus. I've never seen that many roll through here.

958
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I know, the Ryan Williams piece is kind of the

959
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: immediate north star everyone looked at and said landed him

960
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. But just looking out, how do you expect

961
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: recruit to go? How equipped you guys feel and what

962
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: is your philosophy on that?

963
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you could deny that.

964
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't spent a lot of time recruiting

965
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: at the intense level that is needed to here in

966
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: the SEC, and so it was important for me to

967
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: surround myself with guys either who were really familiar with

968
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: the area, familiar with even the faces that were in

969
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: the next cycle or two, the twenty five, the twenty

970
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 3: six is so forth, or guys that were just elite

971
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: recruiters in general. And I think we have a great combination.

972
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: Our staff have been very blessed to surround myself with

973
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: a recruiting staff led by Courtney Morgan, and he did

974
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 3: a great job of putting some of those pieces together

975
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: to fill in the gaps that we felt were necessary

976
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: to you know, to you know, take care of those

977
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: those areas maybe that we were you know, wanting to

978
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: make sure we were on top of here. Early, and

979
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: I think it's led to you know, really good results here.

980
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: As you said, there's been a lot of visitors campus,

981
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: and every time they come, you know there, they leave

982
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: feeling really good about you know, what they saw, what

983
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: they felt, and you know, it's opened up some doors

984
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: again that I think at one point were maybe closed.

985
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean we get all of those guys, whether it's

986
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: next year, the year after, but you know we're back

987
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: in the game and continue to build those relationships.

988
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: No one else will ever ask you this, I promise you.

989
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the movie Devilwar's Prada I have not. Okay, well,

990
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: don't waste your time. But there is a scene in

991
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: there where Meryl Street that's who it is, right, Yeah,

992
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: so Meryl Street meets so many people she can't remember

993
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: the names. She just has an assistant there to whisper

994
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: the names in her ear. How many people have you

995
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: met since you got here? And like, how are you

996
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: retaining those names? Because I think that would be the

997
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: secret biggest challenge of taking this job.

998
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, yeah, you're right, it is a lot. You know,

999
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: it starts with your own roster and even though the

1000
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 3: people in your building and so constantly having access and

1001
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: becoming efficient with it and having staff help me out

1002
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: out just pictures of our roster, you know, and different spots,

1003
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: whether it's digitally or just like a flash.

1004
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: Almost is that.

1005
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: And so you know, it started with that to make

1006
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: sure when you walk down the halls you know who

1007
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 3: the players are you're talking with and the staff, and

1008
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: then it, you know, it continues to add on and

1009
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: you you really have to be intentional on trying to

1010
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: remember and even asking again you know before you leave

1011
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: that you got the names right.

1012
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: But I enjoy it. You know, I can't say I'm.

1013
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: Great with it, but I do really purposely, you know,

1014
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: be very purposeful on trying to remember. I think that's

1015
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: a big part of even the recruiting is when families

1016
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: come in, really trying to pay attention to who the

1017
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: names are of the parents and and so forth. And

1018
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, my staff we got to we've got a

1019
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: group that cares about those things. And again, I use

1020
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: the word intentional a lot, but we're very intentional on

1021
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: that area.

1022
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us who are die hard college.

1023
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Football folks, like we knew of you all right any

1024
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Fresno stadium before, Like we knew of you, maybe the

1025
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: casual fan had you pop on their radar when you

1026
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: guys started doing things at Washington the last couple of years.

1027
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Did you just copy and paste who you were to

1028
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: there or were there some foundational things that evolved about

1029
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: you even as you were at Washington, Like what's changed

1030
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: the most over the past couple of years?

1031
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: Would you say?

1032
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: The foundational things I think are really the same. But

1033
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: I think your experiences that you have and the people

1034
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: you know that go through it with you, that you

1035
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: that you have at different places, and the ones that

1036
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: you know, Kane Wamack or those that I've coached with

1037
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: or ran into it, you know, maybe they hadn't worked

1038
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: with them at Washington or Fresno, but you know, have

1039
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 3: relationships with you know, It's it's been good to kind

1040
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 3: of get everyone together. But I think the foundational piece,

1041
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: the core values, they're the same. The pyramid I use,

1042
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: or what I call the pyramid, you know, it's in

1043
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: that shape starting with our core working to the peak.

1044
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: It's really got the same things on there. It's just

1045
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: got a different backdrop, you know, because I believe that

1046
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: there is a recipe to how we've built teams and

1047
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: built programs, whether it was when I was a player

1048
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: and a coach at the University of Sue Falls and

1049
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: how I saw what a two and eight culture look

1050
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 3: like versus a fourteen and o culture, you know, and

1051
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: what led to that. You know, those are the things

1052
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: that we have is you know, the recipe or the

1053
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: foundation to you know, how we want to do things.

1054
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: But you know, your experiences and how to make things better,

1055
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: and the people you put around you and the great

1056
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 3: ideas they bring to the table. They're all really important

1057
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: and we are, you know, utilize all of that here

1058
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: at Alabama.

1059
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's interesting you mentioned going all the way back

1060
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: to Sue Falls playing baseball. You used to always hear

1061
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: guys when they'd get called up from double A, triple A,

1062
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: and then you get to the show, all of a

1063
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: sudden you try and do more than what got you there.

1064
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: And you know, one of those one of those.

1065
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: Young pitchers always needs to pitching coach or a manager

1066
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: to say, we brought you here because you were doing

1067
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: what you were doing.

1068
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: You don't need to change that.

1069
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: From a foundational standpoint, like core beliefs, the pyramid that

1070
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: you're talking about, could you just talk a second about

1071
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: how there are things that work at every level, like

1072
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: there are foundational principles of success that work no matter

1073
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: where you are, and how hard it is sometimes to

1074
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: maybe remind people that you don't need to do anything different,

1075
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: like we're here, we got this job because that stuff works.

1076
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's first of all, like who do

1077
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: you want to be? Like?

1078
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: You know, so we talk a lot about being first class.

1079
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: We talk about being you know, men of integrity, you know,

1080
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: a staff of integrity. We talk about the importance of

1081
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: academics because I think there's it's all relative. If you

1082
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: can take care of academics and things like that, that's

1083
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: less distractions. It's it's getting the right people in the

1084
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: program that you know, make it enjoyable to talk about

1085
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: football and you're not worried about, well, you know, you

1086
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 3: didn't go to class here or you know your grades

1087
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to you know, be off the

1088
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: football field a couple of days here to worry about,

1089
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 3: you know, school. So the priorities being in a good

1090
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: place or at least und understanding and importance of getting

1091
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 3: a degree, you know, class integrity, academic excellence is a

1092
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: big piece of that. And then I think you really

1093
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: work into the team piece and your culture and it's

1094
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: you know, having some type of chemistry.

1095
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: So we refer to it as our family. And you

1096
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: know families, you.

1097
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: Know, they it's not always perfect, right, They have spats,

1098
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: they have times and feuds that they go through, but

1099
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: in the end, we all want the same thing for

1100
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: each other and there's a care and that will hopefully

1101
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: build to a love that we have and us all

1102
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: you know, wanting the same thing for each other. And accountability,

1103
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: you know, is really important. It's us being accountable to

1104
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: ourselves and then to each other, whether it's coaches to

1105
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: coaches or players to players and coaches to players and

1106
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: that relationship that exists there. And then I think there's

1107
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: a toughness that has to exist, and it's mental and

1108
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: physical toughness, and you know, you could go on and on,

1109
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: but I think those are really some of the key

1110
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: things when we talk about our non negotiables, we talk

1111
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 3: about family, accountable, and tough.

1112
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: When you met with your roster when you got here,

1113
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: how long does that take, first off, to meet with

1114
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: every player? And secondly, what were some of the most

1115
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: common pieces of feedback that you've got.

1116
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, I tried to meet with.

1117
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: It was just again so intense kind of in the

1118
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: moment as you're trying to build a staff, met multiple

1119
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: team meetings, just trying to keep guys a team abreast

1120
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 3: of what you know, the staff was that we were hiring.

1121
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: When we had introductions, we get everyone together. They did

1122
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: get into you know, the winner workouts, So there were

1123
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: some touch points there, you know. But you know, as

1124
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: we just kind of position groups, got a chance to

1125
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: get into those meeting rooms and I think a lot

1126
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: of there were someone there are a lot of one

1127
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: on one meetings just kind of guys that needed to

1128
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: you know, have them or guys that requested them. And

1129
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 3: you know, I think some of those are still happening,

1130
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, and I try to again be very very intentional,

1131
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: purposeful on trying to have those touch points with guys

1132
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: and you know, when you got five minutes, ten minutes

1133
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 3: here and there, you know, getting to know them better,

1134
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: and then we will of course have our end of

1135
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: the spring one on ones here coming up.

1136
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: After a day when I got my job, I tried

1137
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: to do a thirty sixty ninety day plan and it

1138
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: went out the window very quickly. Your job is slightly

1139
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: more complicated than mine. Do you even try to do

1140
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: the thirty sixty ninety and if so, like how quick

1141
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: does the extra sketchboard just get a race?

1142
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: Then things start to get redefined.

1143
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, going back, you know, probably ten years ago,

1144
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: you know, and the opportunities that came up there was

1145
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: I've just kind of paid attention to what it is

1146
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: when you move from a job to job and you

1147
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 3: come in and I think about going to be an

1148
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 3: assistant even at Eastern Michigan or at Fresno, and you

1149
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: come in as a new staff, you understand the timeline

1150
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: of what you need to do, like you said, during

1151
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: those first thirty sixty ninety days, whatever it might be,

1152
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: and so you know the priorities and you know the

1153
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: order of what it should look like. It's just a

1154
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: matter of how much it gets scrunched down into and

1155
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: then some of the decisions that you've got to make

1156
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 3: as far as okay, this needs to just be put

1157
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: on hold here because it's not as big of a

1158
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: deal and we'll get to it, you know, And that

1159
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: was certainly the case here. You know, taking a job

1160
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 3: at Washington or December first was much different than taking

1161
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: a job at Alabama on January twelfth, and so much different,

1162
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: much different deal. But those experiences and those kind of

1163
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: priorities that I had, they were kind of a baseline

1164
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 3: for me to be able to hit the ground running.

1165
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I think make.

1166
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 3: The most of the each and every day, and you know,

1167
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: getting the staff around me that was at least informed

1168
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: and you know, organized in our pursuit.

1169
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: You mentioned the timeframe there and how it was later

1170
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: in January. I think a normal person would probably fall

1171
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: victim to let's just throw one together. We get it

1172
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: fixed a year from now, we'll get it fixed in December.

1173
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: Let's just make sure we got something in place. Let's

1174
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: have a staff in place. And yet this year counts

1175
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: like everything counts, and so how how do you balance

1176
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: trying to be thorough but also trying to get things

1177
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: in place ahead of spring football? Yeah?

1178
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: You know, to me, it was all about getting the

1179
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: right people, you know, and getting the right people in

1180
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: the building, players and staff.

1181
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: That was the key.

1182
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: And when you get the right people, they figured out,

1183
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, and you give them the guidelines and kind

1184
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: of delegate designate kind of who's in charge of what?

1185
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: And unfortunately there were some great people here in the

1186
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: building as well that really were able to you know,

1187
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 3: give me a head start on that, and I think,

1188
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, like a day balloo and strength and conditioning.

1189
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he just hit the ground running with the

1190
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: plan and the program that he had already in play,

1191
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: you know, and so that was that plan was going

1192
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: to start, you know, a week or two, you know

1193
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: after I got here, and you know, he just instituted

1194
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: that and that led to our fourth quarter program with

1195
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: our workouts, and that was one of those you know,

1196
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: we'll continue to evolve that. I'll add my personal touches

1197
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: to it, but it's in a great place. Didn't need

1198
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: to be really changed. And you know there's other areas

1199
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 3: that are very similar to that that I just let

1200
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: the great ones who continue.

1201
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: To have their positions, you know, do their thing.

1202
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: You know, guys some of our alumni that just do

1203
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: an amazing job with our player development program.

1204
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: You know, let them just.

1205
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 3: Stay the course and their their touch points were really

1206
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: critical because they had a great message to our players

1207
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: and they were able to kind of be a pulse

1208
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 3: of the team both to me and the other way

1209
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 3: as well. So some of those things were in place

1210
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: and you know, just continue to try to bring the

1211
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: right people into the building in all these areas that

1212
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 3: we need to hire over the last couple of months.

1213
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: Right now, you guys are one scrimmage in to spring. Yeah,

1214
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: and so you've you've seen what you've seen so far.

1215
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: You guys brought Austin Mack in the quarterback room via

1216
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,959
Speaker 1: the portal, you inherited Jalen Milroe, and so I'm really

1217
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: interested just twenty thousand foot what's your assessment been of

1218
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: the roster you have so far and what you guys

1219
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: could ultimately be.

1220
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the squirret scrimmage was good. There's some

1221
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: learning lessons probably penalties was the first thing, you know,

1222
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: and that just tells you that there's a lot of

1223
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 3: guys still thinking, you know, and penalties that were you know,

1224
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 3: pre snap penalties and false starts or you know, just

1225
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: a couple of things here and there. So you know,

1226
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: that's been already better here this week and it's just

1227
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: more of the guys, you know, wanting to be great,

1228
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: and you know they've they've responded to that challenged them.

1229
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: They knew it when we were on the field.

1230
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: But the first scrimmage, really I was really both sides

1231
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: of the ball had their moments. From a head coach standpoint,

1232
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, one side dominating the other. I know that's

1233
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: not how you are as a coordinator or a position coach.

1234
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: You want your side to have the best day possible.

1235
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 3: But I really felt the give and take was good

1236
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 3: position wise, and you know, you brought the quarterback position up.

1237
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly.

1238
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: Jalen brings a skill set that's a very unique you know,

1239
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: dual threat, can do a lot of things with his legs,

1240
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: but also just got an extremely strong arm, continues to

1241
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: learn the offense, become more comfortable, and he's got some great,

1242
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: great quarterbacks also in that room around him that have

1243
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: done some really good things. I mean, all four of

1244
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: our guys that have taken the reps, you see why

1245
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: they're here, you know, and they bring great value and

1246
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 3: you would feel pretty comfortable with any of them out

1247
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: there on the football field, you know.

1248
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: And so they've all.

1249
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: Really raised their game. I love the way that they

1250
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 3: work together. They're competing at the same time while they're

1251
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 3: trying to build or help build our football team.

1252
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: I'll wrap up with this. You are going to go

1253
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: into a.

1254
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: Lot of really incredible road environments in the SEC You've

1255
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: got an incredible home environment. That's what I love about

1256
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: covering this conference from a head coach's perspective. What's the

1257
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: thing or things you look most forward to experiencing for.

1258
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 2: The first time?

1259
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just the challenge, right, just you know,

1260
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: each and every week you know you're gonna get everyone's

1261
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: best shot. Been a part of that, You know that,

1262
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: you know there's a there's a bullseye target you know,

1263
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 3: on your chest, and you know it's it's it's great,

1264
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: it's fun. It's a privilege to be in that spot

1265
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: to where you know you're gonna get someone's best shot

1266
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 3: and be pushed to your limits. I think a lot

1267
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: of people, you know, say that and then they get

1268
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 3: in that moment, then they kind of back off in

1269
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: the corner, you know. And I think we got a

1270
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: football team of guys that either are used to that

1271
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: because they've been through it the last year, two years,

1272
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 3: three years, whatever it might be. Or you got guys

1273
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 3: that came into it, you know, excited and hungry to

1274
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 3: be in that position and embrace the pressure that comes

1275
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: along with expectation. And so I'm excited. I'm excited for

1276
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: those challenges that come our way. You know, I think

1277
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: we're laying down a great foundation again and how we

1278
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,760
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1279
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 2: Those big moments come.

1280
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 3: And you know, from a mindsetam mindset standpoint and just development,

1281
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: a belief and an attitude creating confidence through our.

1282
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Speaker 2: Preparation Canvint Moore, This is incredible man. Yeah, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you being here.

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