WEBVTT - Maple Syrup Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>you'd never before even considered. Today reporter Otis Gray ventures

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<v Speaker 1>out into the deep woods of rural Vermont to meet

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<v Speaker 1>the Stewart family. Vermont is a state historically known for

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<v Speaker 1>its agrarian businesses, but a lot of these jobs have

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<v Speaker 1>faded away over the last few decades. In this iconic

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<v Speaker 1>New England landscape, the Stewarts run a high stakes operation

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<v Speaker 1>that is totally dependent on each other, the community, and

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<v Speaker 1>the environment they live in. Here's Otis. So for the

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart family, today is a big day. Yeah, today is

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<v Speaker 1>game day, if not the super Bowl. So we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. That's twenty three year old Tanner Stewart and

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<v Speaker 1>he says super Bowl because running the Stewart's business is

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<v Speaker 1>like running a football team if the off season were

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<v Speaker 1>ten to eleven months long. His brother Elliott and his

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<v Speaker 1>dad Mark agree, Yeah, Yeah, it's that's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the playoffs every day and if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you lose the Super Bowl, that sucks. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it for a year. And that's basically what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot to uh to take on, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, there's a lot of good rewards. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason the stakes are so high is because the family

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<v Speaker 1>is in the third year of running Stewart Maple. Maple

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<v Speaker 1>syrup is a huge commodity in the Green Mountain State

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<v Speaker 1>and is a big part of its identity, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like how wine is to Italy. But the window for

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<v Speaker 1>harvesting maple syrup usually lasts only three to five weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So unlike most businesses, where if you have a bad month,

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<v Speaker 1>you just try to do better the next one, the

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<v Speaker 1>Stewarts have to make enough money in just one month

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<v Speaker 1>to support them and their business. And no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>much they prep in the off season, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their success is totally dependent on the weather. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I guess that's the uniqueness of it all,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we really are are on a small window

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<v Speaker 1>from that winter to summer range where we gotta make everything.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be following Elliott today, but it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>note that the whole family has gone all in on

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart Maple um taras Stewart again, Elliot's brother. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Elissa Turgeon. I'm Elliott Stewart's fiance. I'm Mark Stewart,

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<v Speaker 1>Elliot's dad, all right, Paul Stewart his uncle. I'm Gina

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<v Speaker 1>and of course his mom, Gina Stewart, who Elliott says,

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<v Speaker 1>the unsung hero of the business. Oh that's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I make cookies. That's the most important part. She's being modest.

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<v Speaker 1>She runs the finances of the business and a million

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<v Speaker 1>other things, while the rest play pivotal roles as well,

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<v Speaker 1>from sales to social media to the actual boiling of

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<v Speaker 1>the syrup. Yeah, every single person in our family plays

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<v Speaker 1>a huge role in the business. And uh, there's not

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<v Speaker 1>really one person that could be replaced. Having grown up

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<v Speaker 1>in Vermont myself, I know that every winter is completely

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<v Speaker 1>different and you never know what it will bring. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the Stewarts, that unknown is directly tied to their livelihood,

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<v Speaker 1>and every year around March it always comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>one question, will the sap run. It's a beautiful sunny

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<v Speaker 1>March day, snow on the ground, and Elliott Stewart is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to start our snowmobile so we can go out

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<v Speaker 1>into the woods that doesn't run. To make syrup, you

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<v Speaker 1>first drill a hole into a maple tree and you

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<v Speaker 1>tap a little pipe into it. When it gets about

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<v Speaker 1>freezing the tree, sap drips out of the tap, looking

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like water, you collect it and then you

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<v Speaker 1>boil it down to make it more pure and syrupy.

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<v Speaker 1>But it takes a lot to make a little. About

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<v Speaker 1>forty gallons of sap will make one gallon of syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Stewards have to tap a lot of trees

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<v Speaker 1>to make a profit. And this year they've tapped twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand trees. And one of Elliott's jobs is to go

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<v Speaker 1>around the woods and make sure that all of those

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<v Speaker 1>taps are working just the way that they should. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're up, so I'm on the back as Elliott takes

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<v Speaker 1>me through the winding trails of the Stewart's sugar Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>suggar Bush being acres of land and maple trees that

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<v Speaker 1>the family has tapped to collect pure maple sap. The

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<v Speaker 1>lines go eight thousand feet in each direction from the

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<v Speaker 1>sugar house. It's about a little over six hundred acres

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<v Speaker 1>of of lines that flow to the sugar house, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's quite a bit of ground to cover. The

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<v Speaker 1>land itself is shaped like a bowl, a little valley

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by mountains covered in maple trees. Light blue tubes

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<v Speaker 1>that collect sap run like phone lines through the woods

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<v Speaker 1>and along the trail. It's tough to ring. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>riding along a trail that looks down at an alarming

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<v Speaker 1>steep ravine on the left hand side the main lines

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<v Speaker 1>on our left here there are two inch pipes and

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh, it's a long ways down to the river

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<v Speaker 1>down below. So you're climbing down in this ridge. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like well like sixty degrees trying to get the taps in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's steep. It's definitely. There's some spots where you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like you're hanging on you know, you gotta climb

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<v Speaker 1>with your hands and some spots and those are those

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<v Speaker 1>are always fun days. Nobody wants to go to that

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<v Speaker 1>section of the woods. You break your ankle, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>your own on a snowmobile, riding through some of New

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<v Speaker 1>England's iconically beautiful woods. You might get kind of jealous

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<v Speaker 1>that this is Elliott's day to day job. Yeah, it's definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not mad about it. It's definitely. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not too bad of a thing. Fair weather.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good. It's the nasty days that that are hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an all sweet, delicious syrup and Robert Frosty

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<v Speaker 1>and landscapes. The business end of Stewart maple Aside. Their

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<v Speaker 1>success is highly dependent on mother nature, so there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of variables and the stakes are high. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of their days are taken up just maintaining the lines

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<v Speaker 1>between fallen trees and leaks or bad taps and animals

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<v Speaker 1>biting the lines, anything could interfere with the SAP running.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't take things day to day, it's very overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you think about the woods as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Um we have acres of land with trees down everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're like, if you wake up in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and you think you're gonna get it done that day,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna drive yourself crazy. You gotta take a

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<v Speaker 1>day to day and do one step at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>and as long as you're working hard and getting something

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<v Speaker 1>done every day, it's one step in the right direction. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>just being out here in the woods all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out in the fresh air and you can think

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<v Speaker 1>so clearly and um so that honestly, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>helps me to be able to process things where you

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<v Speaker 1>have like five million different things going on, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can easily kind of just go through everything

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<v Speaker 1>in your head because just there's no distractions. You're out

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<v Speaker 1>here in the woods, there's no noise, it's just cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just you're just out there hiking. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time you get tired or you're cold, you go back

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<v Speaker 1>in and you do it all again the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no there's no weekends. You just do it

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<v Speaker 1>any day the weather is good. It's relaxing in a sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what you don't want. So that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big league so that what that does. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see in the line. Each one of these blue lines

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<v Speaker 1>connects to many trees. They all run down to the

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<v Speaker 1>sugar house below where we started our ride. The lines

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<v Speaker 1>are airtight and pull the SAP through a vacuum system

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<v Speaker 1>through the woods. But if there's a leak like this one,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no vacuum pressure and any trees behind that leak

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<v Speaker 1>will be stopped from running as well. Again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of twin eight thousand taps that they have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on. This one's a pretty steep one

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<v Speaker 1>right here, riding down one of the trails, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to duck under a big treat that felt right

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<v Speaker 1>down over one of the main lines a pretty common

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<v Speaker 1>nuisance that becomes a serious problem with big storms like

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<v Speaker 1>this past fall November December time. There we had that

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<v Speaker 1>crazy heavy wet snow that blanketed the trees, snap branches,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so we just had we had quite a

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<v Speaker 1>mess on our hands. Um it looked like a bomb

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<v Speaker 1>went off in the woods. Like, oh man, we had

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<v Speaker 1>all these lines all cleaned up ready to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh oh, we gotta go back through more chain,

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<v Speaker 1>said work for a couple of weeks. Elliott's twenty five now.

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<v Speaker 1>He spent a year at college before deciding he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come back home and go full time into sugaring.

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<v Speaker 1>He eventually convinced his brother Tanner, who's now twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same. And this is unique here. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young people are leaving Vermont to go find

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<v Speaker 1>work in bigger cities and lesser sticking around to carry

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<v Speaker 1>on the agrarian businesses that have long been a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of the culture. Yeah. We we definitely are on

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<v Speaker 1>an island. It's definitely. Uh, there's just not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people doing like going out on the limb and

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<v Speaker 1>and just hoping that it works. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're fortunately our parents have supported us with it. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad's done a similar thing where he was a carpenter

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<v Speaker 1>all his life and uh, and he took went out

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<v Speaker 1>on the limb with us, um and did the sugaring

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<v Speaker 1>full time. UM. So we've we've we've basically got to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where we're like, Okay, well, if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this, we have to leap. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually what's made us pretty successful at it is that

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<v Speaker 1>we are one percent committed. So like when we go

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<v Speaker 1>home at the end of the day, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup. We wake up in the morning where everything

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<v Speaker 1>is maple all the time, and so we have there's

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<v Speaker 1>about seventy acres of trees over there, and have town

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<v Speaker 1>and so that at times can can be a negative

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<v Speaker 1>because we struggle to shut off from it. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times where it's just like, wow, we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked nothing about life at all outside of maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>In the off season, the Steward spend the entire year

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<v Speaker 1>prepping for this month, removing old lines, making new trails,

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<v Speaker 1>repairing damage ones, drilling new trees, finding vendors to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the syrup. Once they have it. It's a monumental amount

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<v Speaker 1>of work that all leads up to right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you work for nine months, ten months, you don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>make a penny. You get to a point where you

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<v Speaker 1>can start to question what you're doing. You're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't made a single dollar and in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to really have a good mindset with it

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<v Speaker 1>and have to trust that you know what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you start to question it, then it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, we got we got issues. We'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>And now back to our story. We'll back down in

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<v Speaker 1>the sugar house. You can see pretty quick that after

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<v Speaker 1>putting in all of that work, the payoff can be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sweet. That is the sound of sap flowing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it down at the sugar house. All the

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<v Speaker 1>lines from the woods feed into this big cement box

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<v Speaker 1>the size of a small basement, lined with a food

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<v Speaker 1>safe plastic. Really good site for you. Yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is exciting. This is the excitement that we wait

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<v Speaker 1>for for throughout the year. This is what we work for.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's rewarding to see it happened like this.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a swimming pool filled with a what's sap?

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<v Speaker 1>I think will probably be uh close to um eight

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<v Speaker 1>tho gallons of sap over the last like forty eight hours,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot. This basement size holding tank where

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<v Speaker 1>the sap runs into it fills fast. And now this

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<v Speaker 1>is when Elliott's dad Mark lets the sap flow into

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<v Speaker 1>a giant boiler that looks like a stainless steel train car.

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<v Speaker 1>And this right here is how they make their finished product.

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<v Speaker 1>They boil out most of the water, turning the sap

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<v Speaker 1>from two percent sugar into sixty six sugar. So how

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<v Speaker 1>many gowns are you gonna be making it? Anything? Probably

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<v Speaker 1>around five gallons somewhere in there, five to six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>gallons of syrup finished product, finished product, Yet lots of syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>In a short amount of time. With the day being

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<v Speaker 1>game day, I asked the rest of the family how

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<v Speaker 1>they were feeling today. Is awesome. It's wonderful to see

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<v Speaker 1>the sun come out and the SAP finally run and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. And how's the Super Bowl going today?

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad? I think we're we're up at halftime. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing well right now, so not mad about it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. The game is strong today. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>great chance of taking this one home. Also, the steam

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<v Speaker 1>of the maple syrup smells pretty good, so you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in like a little like maple syrup high when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in there, so the maple bubble exactly. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good day for the Stewart family. And after touring

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<v Speaker 1>the woods in the sugar house, I could tell that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for their success is because they all rely

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<v Speaker 1>on each other. Like Elliott said, none of them can

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<v Speaker 1>be replaced, and seeing them work together, that is abundantly clear.

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<v Speaker 1>But just as much as a family depending on each

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<v Speaker 1>other to make a livelihood, a lot of their business

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<v Speaker 1>depends on the community too. There's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hoops to jump through, a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>roadblocks along the way. But with the support of of

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<v Speaker 1>the community, um, you know it, Uh, it's made it

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<v Speaker 1>all happen. In return, they've actually given opportunities to their

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors that didn't even exist before, like the Stewarts leasing

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<v Speaker 1>trees from their neighbors each year at a dollar apiece.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of gives landowners of Avenue to to make

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<v Speaker 1>a little money off their property. And you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>adds up fast as the least payment. Um, so they

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate a check in the spring and uh in a

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<v Speaker 1>gallon of stirrup or whatever, and so like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a new way to make a little and

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<v Speaker 1>come off of a property. I also I have to

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<v Speaker 1>mention a few other byproducts of the Stewart's maple business

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<v Speaker 1>that really blew my mind. First, right next to that

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<v Speaker 1>swimming pool sized tank filled with sap is an equally

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<v Speaker 1>big tank filled with crystal blue water. This year, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>we'll produce a million gallons of water, a million gallons.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because they actually on the sap through a reverse

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<v Speaker 1>osmosis machine before they boil. Basically, it's just a machine

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<v Speaker 1>that helps separate the water from the sugar so they

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<v Speaker 1>can save a little bit of money on boiling. That

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<v Speaker 1>separated water is pure beautiful water that they can sell

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<v Speaker 1>to a bottled water company that specializes in just that,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, we have a contract with them to start

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<v Speaker 1>selling it as tree filtered organic water. Pretty cool. Second,

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<v Speaker 1>all those trails that they've made to work on their

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<v Speaker 1>lines are now open to everyone as a public hiking

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<v Speaker 1>trail system, which I think is just amazing. And lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>they've inadvertently become environmental warriors of sorts. That's because the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the stewarts are growing and the more land

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<v Speaker 1>that they occupy, it means that they play a big

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<v Speaker 1>role in the landscape around them thriving. So they regularly

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<v Speaker 1>work with a forester to always make sure that they're

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<v Speaker 1>tapping responsibly and with the least thing that they do

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<v Speaker 1>for their neighbors. Elliott preaches the long term economic value

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<v Speaker 1>of sugaring versus cutting down a tree for its lumber.

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<v Speaker 1>If we can promote the value of the woods, they

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<v Speaker 1>won't be cut down because there's more value to keeping

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<v Speaker 1>them standing. Like sugaring, UM is really tied to the

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<v Speaker 1>forest health real heavily, and uh, you know, we're really

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<v Speaker 1>reliant on on the healthy woods, which is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to always work to achieve that. Just as the

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup that they make now is a perfect representation

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<v Speaker 1>of the land, they are becoming a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>the area's identity, and with each other to rely on,

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<v Speaker 1>they only have plans to keep growing. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>grown the our our business to where our business kind

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<v Speaker 1>of our sandbox is a lot bigger than it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I guess is a simple way to put

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<v Speaker 1>a giant playground. I mean, we were always in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and uh building forts in the woods. Uh, our

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<v Speaker 1>hands are always dirty, our clothes are always dirty. We're

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<v Speaker 1>always outside and uh, you know, this work is literally

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<v Speaker 1>no different than my childhood. You know, it's literally the

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<v Speaker 1>same exact thing where it's the same hill. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the uh the same area, and uh you know

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<v Speaker 1>I can get out there and enjoy it literally what

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<v Speaker 1>we did as as kids, you know, and uh, it's

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