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Sometimes, 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: and he wasn't in here, Ken, So you can't blame 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: me this time. What is the problem. You're like the 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: child in the family that always feels like they're blamed 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: for everybody. I didn't say anything. I didn't know that 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I could read your mind. The problem is, John, the 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: show started and I didn't know you weren't there, so 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't have the chair. I cannot what 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: did I say? Yeah, yes, that is he wheeling the 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: chair down the hallway. Wait right now, as we speak, 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: I left the chair behind. I don't know why. And oh, 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: you're always with your chair. I cannot do my job 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: in the substandard chairs they have. You could get a 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: job at the airport, the one to push the wheelchairs 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: around you. So I'm good to pushing chairs around. Yeah, no, 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm good at that. And I have to go back 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: and get it. And I didn't know, you know, the 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Debra was going to do a minute and a half newscast. 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: So oh, I know. I did get blamed. That's what 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Ken, it was a little lot than a 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: minute and a half. That's a good one. I'm not 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: going to complain about short. I'm gonna say, would you 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: like me to go longer? I'll go much longer. Next time. No, no, 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: you'll be filling with animal stories and vegan food and stuff. 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't complain, John, Yeah, can you can you hold 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: up for just ten seconds because I got to close 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the studio door because yeah, you hear a lot of 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: these very noisy people out there, so just hear conversation. 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well here's the deal. Oh oh, by the way, 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: the keywords coming up for a chance for a thousand dollars. 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: There's there's that old cliche expression. Um, better to uh 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: is he back? He's back? Yeah, better to be thought 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: a fool, but never speak up instead of removing all 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: doubt by speaking up. Because the father of the Highland 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Park shooter, this would be Bobby Well Robert Cremo, the first, 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: the second, I guess the second. The murderer is the third. Yeah, 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: the father is the second. The first one's rolling over 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: in his grave. Oh yeah, the father is referred to 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: his Okay, yeah, really I think the first died. But anyway, Um, 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: he has done some interviews, he's talked. He talked to 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: the New York Post and he talked to ABC News. 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Do we have Aaron Katurski ready to talk about that part? 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: Aren't you there? Hey? Guys, how are good? How are 62 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: you so? Um? What's this dad saying? Well, he's he's 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: doing a couple of things. He's he's downplaying his own 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: role in the process to get his son the firearms 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and then and and he's also downplaying the idea that 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: his son was troubled or particularly violent. He said that 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the night before the shooting, they had a nice conversation 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: on the lawn. They talked about astronomy or something like that, 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: and even even talked about a mass shooting and I 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: think it was Denmark, and the son apparently remarked about 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: how weird the shooter was. And and he down played 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen encounter when when Robert Kreemo had threatened 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: members of his family and police recalled and he was 74 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: briefly labeled to clear and present danger um And he 75 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: chucked it up to a kind of a childhood tantrum 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: or acting out based on whatever was bothering him. But 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: the dad does not seem to see his son, at 78 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: least in the way he described it to us as 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: particularly troubled. Despite some of the signs that we've seen 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: as as investigators have done their work. Wow, what would 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: it take? Did anybody ask him if he's ever seen 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: what his son posted online. Well, we were not sure 83 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: that he fully understood that what he posted online, and 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: really not to excuse anything, but you know, maybe maybe 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: he just didn't just didn't know um. And it's not 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: clear that what the relationship necessarily was, and that's something 87 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: investigators or curious about because sometimes the home life or 88 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: a troubled home life can be a signal of of 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: the isolation or anger that one feels. And so so 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: police are taken a look to see what that relationship 91 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: was like, and they're also they're going to look to 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: see if he deserves any charges. What's fascinating about the 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: dad's responses here is I understand, especially if you're neglectful, 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: your child could put together a secret life and online life. 95 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: He could go out and you don't really know where 96 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: he is and who he's seeing and all that. But 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: they were bringing up the reporters were bringing up circumstances 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: that the dad was aware of and witnessed, and every 99 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: single one of them was downplayed. Up. Yeah, that's what 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: it sort of seems. And and his you know, his 101 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: attorney issued a statement especially to say that you know 102 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: his own role. All he did was was consent to 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: his son trying to get an Illinois firearms Owner's ID 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: card because he was under twenty one. The dad needed 105 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: to sign off, but he said that's where it ends, 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: and he really put the owners more on the process 107 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: in the state. He said, look, my son passed a 108 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: background check on his own. You know, I didn't do 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: anything for him, and he's either approved or he's not. 110 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: And he was approved, and so but what about your 111 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: background check? And dad? Because he threatened to killed everybody 112 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: in the home. Here's the timeline. In April twenty nineteen 113 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: was the suicide threat. In September of twenty nineteen, he's 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: threatening to kill the family, and that's when they took 115 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: away all the knives. And then in December twenty nineteen, 116 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: his dad sponsors the uh, the gun application. I mean 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: it was in recent memory here, This isn't five years ago. 118 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: This is too much like I wasn't a big deal. 119 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: He said, that episode in twenty nineteen wasn't that big 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: a deal. And in fact, the father said the knives, 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: that the dagger, and the sword belonged to him, and 122 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: they were returned the very day that police confiscated them, right, 123 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: and but again he was threatening to use them. He 124 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: was seemingly threatening to use them. Although the dad certainly 125 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: doesn't quite see the episode in the troubling way that 126 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: that it's been that it's been portray it. Supposedly it 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: was a sister that called nine one one. From what 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: I understand, yea the family. No one in the family 129 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: ended up taking the next step of actually pressing charges 130 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: or of um of initiating a red flag petition that 131 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: that perhaps would have gotten you know, you know what 132 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: would have had a different kind of an outcome here. Well, 133 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: that sponsorship for gun ownership, that does it's a consent 134 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: for him, and apparently it does have a closet that 135 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you could be held responsible, does it not? Yeah, it does. 136 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that when 137 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Illinois State Police say they're looking into it, I think 138 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: that's one of the things they're looking into. But there's 139 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: no real you know, I don't know whether a criminal 140 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: charge is going to be appropriate here, but they are 141 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: looking into whether there were any knowing false statements or 142 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: something like that. Well, um, and it, But are you 143 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: aware of the mural that Robert Kremo painted on his 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: mother's home. And yeah, it was the picture of a guy. 145 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: He's got a yellow like smiley face head. Uh, he's 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: wearing what looks like green and black fatigues, and he's 147 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: holding a rifle and and and he's got painted on 148 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: the back of his mother's denise, his mother denise, his 149 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: home on brick. I mean, you talked about a word 150 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: through all this, all this stuff, to see what the 151 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: home life was and what and whether it contributed to 152 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, this spiral into these Internet subcultures that he 153 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: seems to have been obsessed with and all that. Um. 154 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: But but so far, there's been no evident motive, you know, 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: they they've they haven't found a ratio or a or 156 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: religious you know, animists that that may have motivated it. 157 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking the motive might jest been to kill 158 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: people teams, ye seems and based on his alleged confession 159 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the way police put it that he you know, stared 160 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: down the site to the rifle, took ain and opened 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: fire at random. All Right, thank you very much for 162 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: thank you for it. Thank you very much. Erica Tursky, 163 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Senior investigative reporter, ABC News on the father of the 164 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Highland Park, Illinois shooter doing some interviews, one with ABC News, 165 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: one with the New York Posts, which we saw last 166 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: night just as we were signing off the air. Yeah, 167 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: he referred to that twenty nineteen incident where they took 168 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: the sword, the dagger or the knives from the from 169 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: the shooters home. First of all, the father said he 170 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: wasn't living with me then, and it was just a 171 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: childish outburst of the two of the terms he used. Right, 172 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: dad said, you know, I used to collect coins and 173 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: baseball cards. I don't know, referring to what his son 174 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: was collecting knives. See what that means? Well, yeah, that's 175 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: what he is. See. I don't think it was the 176 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: dad's collection. I think it was the Sun's collection because 177 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: he called the knives a collection like I used to 178 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: collect coins and baseball cards. The implication being I collected 179 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: baseball cards, he collects knives. What's the big deal? In fact, 180 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: all his quotes pretty much add up to what's the 181 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: big deal? Apparently at the time, they did label the 182 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Sun a clear and present danger. That was in the 183 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: police report when they came to the home in twenty nineteen, 184 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: but the police didn't do anything. Right now, So somebody's 185 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: a clear and present danger and it's threatening to kill everyone, 186 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: but there's not probable cause to arrest him. That makes 187 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: zero sense. The police committed malpractice there. They screwed up. 188 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: They blew it. If he's a clear and present danger 189 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: and you're taking the weapons away, then yeah, a crime 190 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: has been committed. Yes, there's probably cause you can't have 191 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: it any other way. One directly leads to another. I'm 192 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: just this is just amazing. They're making this look like 193 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: I groomed him to do all this. I've been here 194 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: my whole life, and I'm going to stay here and 195 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: hold my head up high because I didn't do anything wrong. 196 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we've all seen denial, but this takes it. 197 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something else. He's even talking about 198 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: mass murders the night before. He does want a long 199 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: sentence for his son. Well that's nice to hear. Yeah, 200 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: so he doesn't, and of course his thoughts and prayers 201 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: go to the victims. Thoughts and prayers. Really he actually 202 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: said that he actually did the thoughts and prayers line. Really, yeah, 203 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: I guess it's defaulticket I have to do that. You know, 204 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: Clueless doesn't describe this guy. He's like he lives in 205 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: an alternate reality. Well, I can't wait real I essentially 206 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: lost a son too, and it sucks. He also said, 207 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: uh huh it sucks, right, yeah, damn Well, I mean 208 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: that a relative of one of his own lifelong friends 209 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: was injured in the shooting. 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But they 239 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: get there and they talk to him. He just says, well, 240 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I've used drugs and I'm depressed. His mother doesn't want 241 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: to say anything negative. They both act like it says here. 242 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: They both disputed the threat of violence. Cremo told police 243 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: he did not feel like hurting himself or anybody else. 244 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: And they claimed there was no probable cause to arrest. 245 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: It must be nice to have no critics in life. 246 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: No matter what you do. That you could threaten to 247 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: kill your whole family and they'll just go. It's just 248 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: an out first. He doesn't mean it's not such a 249 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: big dlhy looks like the sister was the only one 250 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: at her head screwed on right. He said she didn't 251 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: want to go back to the home after that. I 252 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, yeah, if somebody threatens to kill you, 253 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to spend the night with them. So 254 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: a reviewing officer looks at the report and concludes there 255 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,119 Speaker 1: is insufficient insufficient information for a clear and project danger determination. 256 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: That means he could apply for and get the guns 257 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: two months later with his dad's help. What would be 258 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: sufficient information? If that's not enough, what would the standard be? 259 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: What would have to happen? Because we went through yesterday 260 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: the list of crimes that could have been charged. It 261 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: could have been domestic violence, it could have been intimidation, 262 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: it could have been assault. There's all They're all real crimes, 263 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: and all the definitions fit exactly what he did. Something 264 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: there's not enough evidence information. It sounds like a whitewash. Well, 265 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: it sounds like they were given the family and the 266 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: dad and the kid a big break and saying I 267 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: don't see anything here. It's like a domestic abuse call. 268 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: When they go there, and then the wife doesn't want 269 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: it to She says, oh, no, it's not a thing. 270 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Please go away. That's what they have to do. They 271 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: don't have anything. I have a case, and I mean, 272 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: witness anybody that's gonna state this was dangerous. Well, he 273 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: took the knives away, so they much have thought there 274 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: was a case. They wanted to do something. I suppose No, 275 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: I just I just think I just think they blew it. 276 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I just think they blew it and they gave deference 277 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: to the dad because he was a big deal in town. 278 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Well here is the dad. We have some of the 279 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: audio from ABC seven in Chicago from Mayer Kawash. Let's listen. 280 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: Robert Krimo Junior says this has all been a nightmare, 281 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: shocking the family because they believed his son was raised 282 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: with good morals. Robert Cremo Junior also saying he doesn't 283 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: regret helping his son get that void card because he 284 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: was following the law as a father. All right, I 285 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: pretty much lost a son. Father of the Highland Park 286 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: shooting suspect, speaking publicly for the first time in an 287 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: exclusive phone interview with ABC he Knews, Robert Cremo j 288 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: a twenty eighteen candidate for mayor of Highland Park, says 289 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: he had talked to his son the night before the shooting, 290 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: thirteen hours earlier. I spent almost an hour with him 291 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: sitting in the yard talking about, you know, the plan 292 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: at the atmosphere and nothing is great mood. I shocked. 293 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: I think three days before the fourth my wife had 294 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: asked him, they do you have any plans for the part, 295 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: and he simply said no. Cremo Junior says he doesn't 296 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: know the motive behind his son's actions. That's what I'd 297 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: like to ask him when I see him. I mean, 298 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: they're this kind of definitive act. Is it's a senseless 299 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: act of violence. There's no need for it. Illinois State 300 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Police now investigating Cremo Junior and his culpability for signing 301 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: the consent for him, which allowed his son to obtain 302 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: a FOID card. The father downplay threats his son made 303 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen to kill others, lining to a child's outburst. 304 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: He said that didn't change his mind about his son 305 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: owning a gun, leaving it up to the vetting process, 306 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: like that's that's all. That's all it was to come 307 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: sent from and to allow myself to go through the process. 308 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: They do background checks, whatever it entails. I'm not exactly 309 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: sure either you're approved or denied, and he was approved 310 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: and right for twenty twenty. Kremo Junior says his son 311 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: purchased the guns on his own and registered them in 312 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: his own name. In the meantime, the father says he 313 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: hasn't stopped thinking about those victims since the shooting. My 314 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: heart goes out when he just I can only imagine 315 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: losing a family member of a parade or a child 316 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't have their parents. It's horrific now. Crimo Junior 317 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: also strongly denies any rumors that his son suffered from 318 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: abuse at home. He also says he was not concerned 319 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: about social media posts that came up in the past 320 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: from his son, saying he has not seen them all 321 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: and he thought the ones that he did see just 322 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to do with his music, right, nothing big deal. She 323 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: only saw the music ones, right, You know, any parents 324 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: are there out there like this, where there's been these 325 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: kinds of outbursts, there's been these threats and they're posting 326 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: this crap online and you're like, yeah, go ahead, get 327 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: a gun, I'll help you. That's what I was wondering 328 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: if if threatening to kill the family wasn't enough to 329 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: not sign his application card? Yeah, what would be enough? 330 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: What would he have to do? This is like with 331 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: the police if you went to the house and there 332 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: wasn't enough evidence, Okay, what would be enough evidence? Same 333 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: thing with the dad here, what is enough to say? 334 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I'm signing that card. I 335 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to help you out well. And 336 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: of course he passed the background check because you didn't 337 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: press charges against him. Pressing charges against him was the 338 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: best thing you could have done for him. And to say, 339 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: the lives of the people shot in the parade, Oh, 340 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the father's acting like I wasn't there. I don't know 341 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: anything about that. With the knives. That was the mother 342 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: and the sister who apparently were home when the police came. 343 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: So he's acting like I don't know, I can't speak 344 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: to that. I mean, I mean he and by the way, 345 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: this kid was a lunatic, like, let's say, at least 346 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: every day of his teenage life, right, every day, he 347 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: was a lunatic. All right, you got you got tattoos 348 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: on your face, you got tattoos on your neck. You 349 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: paint a mural on your mother's house of a weird, 350 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: smiling guy and fatigues holding a rifle. I'm a full 351 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: color mural. That doesn't make you stop and go, oh, 352 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: what is that. One of the first stories that came 353 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: out is that the parents would always leave the kids 354 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: at school, wouldn't pick them up in the afternoon. I don't. 355 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't think they were involved in their lives at all. 356 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: They had no idea. And then this one turns out 357 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: to be what's your path? That's why he's so Cluelessly, 358 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know, Yeah, because you didn't really talk to 359 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: him for a twenty years. Nobody talked In the night 360 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: before the shooting, you know, yeah, he discussed what happened 361 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: in Denmark with a mass shooting, and yeah, isn't that weird? Uh? 362 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: And and and well, I don't know my you know, 363 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: my wife, she she asked him, what are you doing 364 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: for the fourth And well, you think special, you think 365 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you, I love how people really don't 366 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: know how to deal or recognize mental illness. He tells 367 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: the conversation why it's like, well, he was talking normally. Well, 368 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: of course he's talking normally. What's he gonna tell you, 369 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to shoot up forty people, and not 370 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: that that the dad would have done anything anyway, even 371 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: if he'd gotten that answer. Oh, he was just joking. 372 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: He's just trying to get attention. Well, when we come back, Uh, 373 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Sophie, and we're gonna talk about 374 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: what do appear to be some racist and anti semitic 375 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: messages from Cremo. Yeah, Sophie. You know Sophie's job. No, 376 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: is that his uh teenage sex blow up friend. Yeah, yeah, 377 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: Sophie and he killed her too, all right, More coming 378 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: up John and Kid God John and Kid Cafe Tomorrow 379 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: will mark the return of the more sline to the 380 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: John and Ken showing the five o'clock hour. You're not 381 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: out of time yet. If you've got something that's just 382 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: in your mind right now and you want to leave 383 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: a message, it might still be included. You can go 384 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: to the iHeartRadio app and use a little microphone to 385 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: leave a message, or you can, of course do it 386 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: the old fashioned way call us up at one eight 387 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven six 388 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: six four seven eight eight six. Well, of course, still 389 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: talking about the mass shooting in Highland Park, Illinois that 390 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: killed seven people wounded over thirty. The shooter is Robert 391 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: Bobby Kremo. The third. Well, of course, we're talking a 392 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: lot about the police visits to the home by the way. 393 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Since two thousand and two, the police had been to 394 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: that home because the parents were constantly fighting. I mean, 395 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: think about all the years you grew up in the 396 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: household with your parents. How many times did the cops 397 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: come to break up a fight between your parents? Most 398 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: of us zero zero, maybe not even did you even 399 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: hear about this much in the neighborhood when you think 400 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: about it. Yet this family, yeah, we only had They 401 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: had psychopath who raised a psychopath. My mother set fire 402 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: to dinner in the kitchen once the purpose firemen had 403 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: to come. No, it was just dinner had gone wrong. 404 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh I thought maybe she was trying to get back 405 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: at your dad. No, no, no, no, it's just cooking accident. Oh, 406 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: so they did the fire of the fire. Yeah, I 407 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: was coming home from school. Somebody was driving me home 408 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: and I saw these fire trucks in front of the house. 409 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: Went inside and it looked like mom had Yeah. And 410 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: the only time if you're talking about any kind of 411 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: emergency people coming to the house, that's the time the 412 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: lawnmower blew up on me and the fire up department 413 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: came because I was afraid it was going to burn 414 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: up a big tree in the yard, just burn up 415 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: the whole house. And the lawnmower blew up on you. Yeah, 416 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: I I've told this story. My dad would not replace it. 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: It was a piece of crap, little push lawnmower. Yeah, 418 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: he got it. I still remember. It's from Sears. There's 419 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Sears. But he bought it, and like 420 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: it was probably fifteen years old and we're still you it. 421 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: And like the handle was coming off the gas tank 422 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: I think was deteriorating the metal. So what happened was 423 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: I had to fill it because it ran out of 424 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: gas while I was pushing it. And when I splotted 425 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: some gasoline, it fell onto one of the deteriorated parts 426 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: and just started going to flame. I was like, because 427 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: the motor was hot, right, Yeah, sure, Yeah, I just 428 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: ran out of there. I was I was afraid it 429 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: was gonna like explode like a car in the movies. Yeah, 430 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: I remember my sister looked at the window. She said, 431 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: off the hell she called the could have been a 432 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: fire bomb. It was a pretty small thing. So we're 433 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: learning more about what this guy's been doing online. In 434 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: addition to all of his dark, demented postings about mass 435 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: shootings and of course playing video games where he's a 436 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: mass shooter's avatar was actually shooting from a rooftop, we've 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: also learned about his relationship with Sophie. Sophie the teenage 438 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: sex style, that's what it is. And uh, I guess 439 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: you know you pumped Sophie up full of air and 440 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: when you're in the mood to go down on her. 441 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: He had a car an accurate that he he put 442 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: the doll in the front passenger seat and he did 443 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: fasten her seatbelt. Yeah, there's a photo here. The back 444 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: of the car had a bumper sticker really kind of 445 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: a P magnet. You know what the P word is, Yeah, 446 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: a vulgar expression for teddy bears in the back seat. Yeah, 447 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: and a Donald Trump bobblehead. Oh yeah, you're right on 448 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the rear dash well for Teddy bears on a Donald 449 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: Trump bobblehead, And that should be enough to have somebody 450 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: put away exactly. I mean, how much more information do 451 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: you need to lock a guy up? Another one of 452 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: the images he posted was that Sophie killed herself and 453 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: he had the doll in a mock suicide hanging in 454 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: his closet. Yeah. I guess since the doll is not real, 455 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: it would be a mock suicide. Right. This was an 456 00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: incredibly lonely, really severely troubled person who would the age 457 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: of twenty is playing with Uh, well, I guess a 458 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: teenage sex doll we kind of batch when else was 459 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: doing with it and killing it. Well, she hung herself. 460 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: He didn't kill it, all right? She yeah? Like yeah, 461 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, right. He actually posted I don't understand why 462 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Sophie July one, twenty twenty July twenty two, twenty twenty. Wow, 463 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: he added, and he put a frowning face. It was 464 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: very sad, but Sophie took her own life. And I 465 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: think if you were a teenage sex doll stuck with 466 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: this guy, you would take your own bike two three 467 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: weeks is all you good? Handle? It was on it. 468 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: It was on some kind of chat side called documenting Reality. 469 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh so just they just dug this up. Yeah, this 470 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: is newer and his his his handle was awake forty 471 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: seven again. Yeah, and they have a site moderator named 472 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: Chris Wilson. Now you imagine a guy who spends part 473 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: of his day moderating comments from want to be mad, 474 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: murderer whack jobs like this guy. This is not something 475 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: we've ever had to deal with. He was a member 476 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: of the site, as well as other sites. I think 477 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: what happened is horrendous, and I'm cooperating fully with law 478 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: enforcement officials. No nobody thought posting photos of a guy 479 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: hanging his sex style was caused for concern. Now it 480 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: looks like he indiscriminately fired on the parade crowd from 481 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: that rooftop. But he did post recently some racist things. 482 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: The math is all screwed up. The logistics of six 483 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: million Jews doesn't make sense. But I'm just retarded. He 484 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: posted on June twenty fifth, so that's obviously a reference 485 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: on the Holocaust, right, not a believer? Other posts we 486 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: should I say, we should just get it to the 487 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Blacks altogether on June twenty eighth, and Asian people should 488 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: be gassed then washed on July second, which is just 489 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: two days before the massacre. There you go. So he 490 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: didn't like anybody, did he? No? He wrote, I see 491 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: old Sparky. If I remember right, some states of reinstated 492 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: gas chambers as a way to do I like that. 493 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: There's old Sparky's a reference to the electric chair. But anyway, 494 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: other than that, nothing was wrong, just a childish outburst, 495 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: just expressing himself. I know. This is why I wish 496 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: there was a way we could charge the parents, just 497 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: because maybe it'll wake somebody up somewhere that's got a 498 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: kid like this. I don't know how you deal with 499 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: a case like this, because in the Vivaldi situation in Texas, 500 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: you had a huge police force that all stood there 501 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: and did nothing. In this case, you had a lifetime 502 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: of adults in Highland Park that stood around and did nothing. 503 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: And there's no counteracting that inertia, that lack of interest, 504 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: lack of action. If everybody's going to stand around and 505 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: do nothing, well yeah this is what you get. And 506 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: and and now young men like this can spend all 507 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: their lives taking in violent impulses, violent input from video 508 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: games and whatever's on the internet, channel it into violent 509 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: rap music and violent rap lyrics, and then entertain their 510 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: imaginary friends online, and everybody will applaud them and support 511 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: them and encourage them to go out and do the shooting, 512 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: because they all want to do the shooting too. So 513 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: there's there's not a single person in America right now 514 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: who's looking at that particular dynamic where all the adults 515 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: are standing around doing nothing, and he spends his day 516 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: immersed in the internet sewer, feeding his damage troubled brain 517 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: with all kinds of violent imagery. Someone else who spoke 518 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: out is the mother of what is described as Cremo's 519 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: only friend. The mother is speaking because the friend, whose 520 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: name was Anthony, he actually died in twenty seventeen. I'm 521 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: not sure what it doesn't say, kill him well, but 522 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: he made a video Cremo did that said Anthony was 523 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: the person I could call him when I couldn't sleep, 524 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: and he would always reply. He was always free to 525 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: hang out whenever I wanted to be with him, and 526 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: I felt like I wasn't alone anymore. So I guess 527 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: the death of that kid meant he was completely alone, 528 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: because this is being described as his only friend that 529 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: anybody can think of. The mother said she's surprised because 530 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: he was always a happy kid. Look at that, she said, 531 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: he's the type of boy that would have taken a 532 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: bug out of the house rather than kill it. Wait, 533 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you saw this as a TV show, 534 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe it. You would think it's kind of 535 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: a parody of zombie suburban life where the kids are 536 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: plotting mass murders and the parents are going, oh, he's 537 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: just a wonderful child. Yes, he's always happy. Cut to 538 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: the bedroom where he and his buddies are online talking 539 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: about how many bodies they're going to rack up when 540 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: they finally get their rifle from dad. Yeah, I know, 541 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: parents probably don't really, I mean, unless the real helicopter 542 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: ones take a look at what their kids are doing online. 543 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: The father is said, I just knew about his music stuff. 544 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: I didn't see any of his in that post. That 545 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: wasn't disturbing enough. Well, he's always his awake rappers. Oh yeah, 546 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: some of the lyrics were disturbing, remember, Yeah, yeah, in 547 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: the imagery, it was it was it was a lot 548 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: of violent noise and it was awful. It's horrible. It 549 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: only comes out of a disturbed mind, that stuff. Obviously, 550 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: all right, we got more coming up, John and Ken 551 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: Cafe I died all afternoon during the show. We'll live 552 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: a shot at a thousand dollars. The next one comes 553 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: at three twenty with the keyword to enter into the website. 554 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: That will come up at around three here on KFI. 555 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Another big story today was the resignation of the Prime 556 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: Minister of the United Kingdom, the guy with the weird hair, 557 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Boris Johnson. So it always looked like clown hair to me. 558 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: People said he did that on purpose, purposely disheveled, to 559 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: give him sort of a distinct look. Well it must 560 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: have been. He gets up in the morning, he sees 561 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: himself in the mirror, so he knows he looks like that. 562 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: What caught up to him was a series of scandals. 563 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: We can't do this in this country. I mean, basically, 564 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: Parliament can do a no confidence vote and they can 565 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: trigger an election, and he cites at that by simply 566 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: just resigning. I think those kind of governments where you 567 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: can decide, you know, after this guy was empowered two 568 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: and a half years. Well, he had he had a 569 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: bunch of Newsom scandals. He was locking down Great Britain. Well, 570 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: at the same time he's having his own private parties. Yeah, 571 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: they called it party Gate back in twenty twenty. Whenever 572 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: that was locked down. Apparently it got pretty wild among 573 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the government employees. Government employees, of course, 574 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: so they were boozing it up, probably having wanton sex. Yes, 575 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: and he looks like a guy who enjoys a beer 576 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: or too. And but you know, at least it caught 577 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: up to him. Here knows some is out at the 578 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: French laundry racking up, you know, twenty thousand dollars dinners. Right, 579 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: nobody does anything in Montana now violating his anti state 580 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: travel band he is. Yes, Apparently the last straw for 581 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: Boris Johnson were complaints about a man by the name 582 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: of Chris Pincher, which is an interesting thing when you 583 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: hear the rest of the story. His title was Conservative 584 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Whip. He stepped down as to that ten 585 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: days ago because he was groping men at a private club. Pincher, 586 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: the whip. Johnson's office initially said they knew nothing of 587 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: these allegations which were made against Pincher back in twenty nineteen. 588 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I was that guy doomed by Monday. Johnson said he 589 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: did know of the claims, but they either resolved or 590 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: didn't progress to a formal complaint and just tried to 591 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: push the whole thing aside. And you know what else, 592 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: The economy sucks in England and inflation is ten percent 593 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: now because he was another stupid ass that locked down 594 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: the whole country for way too long. And all these 595 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: idiot leaders with their lockdowns, they just kind of ruined everything. 596 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: They ruined the supply chain, they ruined you know, the 597 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: job market. Everything is upside down. I'm actually surprised at 598 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: the reverberations of all these lockdowns that persist now for 599 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: months and months and months. It's going to be years. 600 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: They just they should never ever do this again. I 601 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: don't think they will. Oh, this is just bad. There 602 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: were still fans of that style, but I don't think 603 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: that's happening. Here. We are two and a half years later, 604 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: and we still have so many issues from doing that. 605 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, you want to heard about the airline industry today. 606 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: You know, there were thousands of flights that have been canceled. 607 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: I think just over the weekend it was about fourteen 608 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: hundred flights. And what happened is the government, our government 609 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: gave the airline industry fifty four billion dollars in imaginary 610 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: printed tax money, and the airlines took that money and 611 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: they didn't spend it just to pay the bills and 612 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: to keep everybody employed. What they did is they used 613 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: it for buyouts and early retirements. So now the airlines 614 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: are missing thousands of people who took the buy out 615 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: and retired. It's like hey, thanks Sea, so they're no 616 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: longer available to work. Plus they had a vaccine mandate. 617 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: The airlines lost thirty one thousand employees to the vaccine mandate. 618 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: So now they're not enough pilots, they're not enough flight attendant, 619 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: it's not enough general staff. And that's why they're canceling 620 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: thousands of flights this summer. They just completely blew it, 621 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: just completely boxed because the lockdown led everybody to believe 622 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: we're going to head into a major depression and we 623 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: had to scale back because there's no demand. And that 624 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: went on for so long that companies just rejiggered in 625 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: that fashion, and then you know, lo and behold, what 626 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: do you think when things got better? And by the way, 627 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: the economy never got that bad, but people decided that 628 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: they really wanted to do a lot of things that 629 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: they couldn't do the first year, and they started doing 630 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: them actually last year, and now this year everything's popping 631 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: out all over the place. Everybody, everybody overreacted. The lockdown 632 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: was overreaction. The business's reaction to it was an overreaction 633 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: to shutting everything down, taking immediate action just to completely 634 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: halt a lot of operations. Really, just we do that 635 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: with so many things. We just overreact. Yeah, So Boris 636 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: Johnson's big moment came with the Brexit, and but it 637 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: says here I'm reading this matorial in the Wall Street 638 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: Journal that what he wanted to do after Brexit was 639 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: built an economic powerhouse. But instead he wanted to raise 640 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: the corporate tax rate to twenty six percent from nineteen percent. 641 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: He should have been cutting it to attract investment. So 642 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: they did everything wrong and it probably has hurt the economy. No, 643 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: he raised taxes. They're at the highest point in fifty years. 644 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: Whole electricity and natural gas rates have spiked fifty four 645 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: percent in April. Yeah, because They also went to like 646 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: went to wind energy and the wind turbines that they 647 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: have in the North Sea that was supposed to provide 648 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: the energy a calming period hidden the ocean, and it 649 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: wasn't producing enough energy anymore. Well, yeah, what happened to 650 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: the wind? It stopped. I don't know what to tell you, 651 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to do the same thing here they 652 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: want to put when turbines out in the Pacific there, 653 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna make all the same stupid mistakes. They make 654 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: the same mistakes in Europe as as we do here 655 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: in California. Everyone's in sync. You know. It's like like 656 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: Germany guy who was trying to get rid of burning 657 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: coal and natural gas. So we're gonna go with wind 658 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: and solar. It's like, you do that, Let's see what 659 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: happens here. Oh. He also raised the payroll tax inflations 660 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: expected to exceed ten percent later this year. In the UK. 661 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: This is all self inflicted by the governments. This is 662 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: the government's getting involved in the private economy. And look 663 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: what they've done. All their mandates, whether it was closing mandates, 664 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: vaccine mandates, energy mandates, all their brilliant stupid ideas, all 665 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: their woke philosophies, all failures, and you got to deal 666 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: with it. You got to deal with all the all 667 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: the fallout because they don't know what they're doing. But 668 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: keep electing them, you know, keep voting the way you're voting. Yeah, 669 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: And apparently a Putin and the Kremlin took one last 670 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: swipe at Boris Johnson after the news broke that he 671 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: was going to resign. We would like that Britain has 672 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: more professional people who can make decisions who come to 673 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: power in that country. Good. Yeah, because Johnson was the 674 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: biggest booster of helping Ukraine. He was he went there, Yeah, 675 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: he went there, and he's given them billions of dollars 676 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of military support. I mean they're number 677 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: two to what the US has done. So yeah, so 678 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: Putin's getting a big laugh out of that. 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