1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tail Woods, presented by 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: First Light, creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: saddle or blind. First Light Go farther, stay longer, and 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: now your hosts Casey Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Christmas time is here, but there's still time to kill 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: it the year. This is Retfresh. Let's go. Welcome to 8 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Refresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith. This is Tyler Jones. 9 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: We're brought to you by first Slight Gear and Merry Christmas. 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Jimmy Christmas. That's right to commemorate 11 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: one of the ogs of outdoor television, shooting Big Bucks 12 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: on film. Man, you're raggling, Yeah, Roger ragling outdoors. He 13 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: was doing it way back. You know, it's easy to 14 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: be critical of some of the things that happened in 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: early outdoor TV, but you got to realize that those 16 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: guys are pioneers doing something no one had ever done. 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: Before, creating a dust ball. 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: It's western expansive, way faster than I am right now, 19 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: but I'm kind of moving the speed of the deer 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: right now, just moving kind of slow, you know what 21 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: I mean. I think people across the country are either 22 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: real hype because deer seasons just getting going, or real 23 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: sad because it's over. 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: It depends on where you're at. 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: It's weird, how like, you know, everybody up north kind 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: of gets all hype about this early season white Tail 27 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: and then you know. 28 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: Remember you're talking to Mark's fan base. Listen, I can 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: speak that language. My mom's from Minnesota. 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: But you know, around December tenth, that's all like, oh, 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: it's over, you know whereas Like, dude, I mean, even 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: in our backyards here in Texas, December we're in pretty 33 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: far in North Texas, December tenth is still a good date, 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: you know. And well we're looking at December today is 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: this will come out Christmas Day, Okay? And you can actually, 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: even in North Texas have good hunts at this point 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: in the year if you've got good food or you 38 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: know where betting is. And we're gonna talk to some 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: different people around the country, a lot of more southern 40 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: latitudes this week, but I thought it might be a 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: good time because this is the last episode of Retfresh 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: for the year, guys, to kind of reflect on some 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: of the good interviews that we've had this year. I 44 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: do believe we had our first perfect ten this year. Really, yes, 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: we did. Someone I can't, I can't was it Alex 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: Comstock that called up perfectly? Was like Parker or something. 47 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Might have been Parker. I don't know. Parker killed a 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: big o' deer. 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: There is a trend on Retfresh, okay, And I think 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: that this is a good trend that a lot of 51 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: people do a Refresh interview and then kill deer the 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: next day. 53 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Michael Huncker did it. Mike Hunsucker, Alex Comstock did it, 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: Parker did it? 56 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: Who else? Someone? Charry Larson does it every year Cheryl Larson. Yeah, 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: that's right. 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you want to kill a deer, just 59 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: try to get on a re Fresh interview. 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: Then there haven't been a few messages trying to get 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: on who's our friend from Minnesota? 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: That other guy he killed right away? Yeah, yeah, he 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: killed right away too. So like it's a thing. And 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: I've found that, you know, people actually enjoy the information 65 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: they get from Refresh, and that's not because of us. 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm a terrible interviewer, I think sometimes because I just 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: asked the old mornings or evenings, you know. But you know, 68 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: a lot of times it's pretty cool to actually talk 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: to the boots on the ground folks. And you know, 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: because I don't know what's going on in Maryland, you'll 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: want to listen to me, but you do want to 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: listen to Grant Forniy or whoever it may be up 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: there hunting. 74 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: That's uh, you know, knows what's going on in the 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: woods for sure. Sure, man. Yeah, No, it's been fun. 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: It's been it's been good. You know. I I I 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: think I get a little bit maybe I don't know, 78 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: jaded or whatever, a little underappreciative of the information that 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: I get from this podcast, being so tightly connected to 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: it that I don't sometimes see how much that information 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: helps me on a week to week basis when I'm hunting. So, uh, 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: it's good to kind of know that and talk to 83 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: people and get a get a good you know idea. Uh. 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: You know, for instance, one thing you said at one 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: point was when you killed in Nebraska, you did a 86 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: light rattling sequence once you hadn't really been doing and 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: you talked to Mike Huntsucker about it, and he said 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: he had done that Colorado, that week, So you try 89 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: it and it actually works, you know, stuff like that, 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: you're like doing the thing that Mike talked about. Yeah, 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: it's pretty cool for sure. It's uh, that's the thing, 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: man is It's like, it's not you. It's not like 93 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: you haven't heard that before or heard somebody talk about 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: doing that before. It's just how how event and how 95 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: like how you know recent have you heard that information? 96 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: You know? 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: And that's why this is good because whether you're hearing 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: the same things or not week to week or even 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: you know, things that you've heard before. When you hear 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: that that week and then go out in the woods 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: and maybe try that and be like, oh, yeah, that 102 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: was the thing I used to do two years ago. Whatever, 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: you try that thing again. It works. It's like, man, 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: that was worth listening to. So I find it valuable 105 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: in that way. 106 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, man, I mean it's it's it's cool, and 107 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: there's there's some value to having things top of mind, 108 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, like you might know something, but being reminded 109 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: of it it is worth a whole lot too. You 110 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: know that we as humans tend to have a problem 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: with pride, and one of the pride things is that 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: we think that we know all the right answers, and 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: if you can just tell yourself, hey, you know, maybe 114 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 2: I should listen to someone else and take their advice 115 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: because they kill big deer too. 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Works out pretty well. Yeah, we also have a problem 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: with top of mind stuff right now in our culture, 118 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: just because of the smartphone. In my opinion, you know, 119 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: it's like this is a thing that as soon as 120 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: soon as your mind is at the least but not 121 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: just fully entertained or you know, busy, it's like, let 122 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: me grab my phone and look at the phone, and 123 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: then there's not a whole lot of top of mind 124 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: going on except for what you're being fed. So it's 125 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: potentially good to sit there and listen to stuff, think 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: about stuff, and have some things like rattling lightly be 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: top of mind critical thought. Man, it's important thing I 128 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: know how to do. 129 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: Guys, I would be remiss if I didn't say something 130 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: about it being Christmas time. I mean, Christmas is awesome 131 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: for a lot of different reasons. If you believe that 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Jesus came to earth. I mean, it's a great time 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: to celebrate that, it's a great time to be with family, 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: and it's a great time to absolutely reflect on all 135 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: the blessings that we have here as just you know, 136 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: inhabitants of this world and to be able to chase 137 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 2: these creatures around. And it's a lot, a lot of fun. 138 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: And there are some guys that are out still hunting. 139 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: We got some dudes to talk to you this week 140 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: about some hunting around I would say the South, the 141 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: semi South. We got actually some pretty good reports, right, Tyler, 142 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: who are we talking to? 143 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: We got a couple of good reports, a couple of 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: bad reports, you know, or the reports weren't bad, it 145 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: was just the numbers that year. 146 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know, honestly, it's important to be realistic, Yeah, 147 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: That's part of the whole deal, right, that's knowing what 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: to expect, when to take some time off, when to 150 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: you know, spend time away from family or job or whatever. 151 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: So this week, you know, we had our friends Scott Harness, 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: which plug he's he's on this episode, but he's also 153 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: on the Element podcast this week. So I think you know, 154 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: what I talked to Scott about on the Element podcast 155 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: this week was a lot of stuff about being a 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: good kind of being a good hunting partner or hunting 157 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: buddy or whatever. And then also we talked a lot 158 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: about like what it's like to hunting Arkansas and what 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: kind of tactics work. And I think that can and 160 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: that can expand to you know, East Texas and Louisiana, 161 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: Mississippi and Alabama and Tennessee and some of that stuff, 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: because you've got kind of that south thing there, you know, 163 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: that kind of a south or southeast thing there. So anyway, 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: that was our podcast this week on the Element podcast. 165 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: Feel free to go over there here and just a 166 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: little bit probably plug it again at the end, but 167 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: I talked to him and or we talked to him 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: this this week. We also talked to our buddy Rob Mendoza. 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: He's been in Missouri. I think he had a pretty 170 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: much resident there nowadays because of how big of the 171 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: deer he's chasing and what he's been after all year. 172 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: Rob's got a great report for us. Our own guys 173 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: helped us out this week as well. Greg Latham, who 174 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: is just a connoisseur of Texas deer hunting. I mean, 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: he is just all about it, everything about Texas. You know. 176 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: Greg likes he likes him some SpaceX, he likes him 177 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: some hill country deer hunting. He likes axis deer. In fact, 178 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: he shot it access tore and so Greg has given 179 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: us a report here in Texas, and I think there's 180 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: not hardly a more worthy guy to do that. And 181 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: then Casey Knight, who we call Cuppy Cup or Cupcake, 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: he's on his way to Kentucky right now and has 183 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: been there his whole life learning about the Kentucky Way. 184 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: So we're gonna get that report from him as well. Awesome, 185 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: let's get him on the phone. Now. 186 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: I've got my brother, Scott Harness. He's hunting Arkansas. Actually 187 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: he's in a grocery store hunting up some good old 188 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: Christmas food. But he's been out in the woods in Arkansas. Scott, 189 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: what's happening, man? 190 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: Man? 191 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 5: Just having a good time getting ready for Christmas. The 192 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: hours are, they're just melting away. It's almost time, I 193 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 5: guarantee you, dude. 194 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, if a feller was still trying to fill an 195 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: Arkansas tag, is it a good time right now? 196 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: You know you're on the backside of it. I would 197 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: say this. 198 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 5: Just looking at my cameras and visiting with my friends, 199 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: I'm still seeing a few people killing some nice deer 200 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 5: and it some nice dear encounters, but it's it's not 201 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 5: like it was. There's a lot of nighttime movement and 202 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: they've moved back to food. The rut for the most 203 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 5: part of the state is over. Now there's some there's 204 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: some pockets where there will be some late rud activity, 205 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: and I know a lot of people that capitalize on 206 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 5: that and they swear by it. I have not had 207 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 5: success doing that, but I know if you can find 208 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: an acorn tree dropping, and a lot of times I 209 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: hear that if you'll have like a year ling or 210 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: something come in, or a dough that hadn't been bred. 211 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: A lot of times they're pretty dumb. And that big 212 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: old buckle just follow men late. He's not as he's 213 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: not as on his guard as what he is other 214 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 5: parts of the year. 215 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: And they say they'll come in they make a kill. 216 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: I personally can't witness to that. 217 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 5: I would say, if you're going to kill a deer 218 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: in Arkansas right now, I would shoot whatever comes by, 219 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: because that's gonna be probably your best bet. 220 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: A lot of your brethren there in Arkansas they go 221 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: by the same thing. You know, to shoot whatever comes by. 222 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: But do you do you would you hunt? Betting or 223 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 3: food right now. If you had the options, well, I 224 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: would hunt food. 225 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 5: That's that's close to to to cover. If you want 226 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: to see a buck, I think you can probably get 227 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: a little a little bit away from the cover if 228 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 5: you're if you're you know, trying to just put some 229 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 5: meat in the freezer. 230 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: But if you're trying to see a buck, you gotta 231 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: you gotta go. 232 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: You're gonna to be close to where he's he feels secure. 233 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: And I move that far you think now. 234 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: They're not moving far and they're not moving hardly any 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 5: during the daylight. It's that that that testosterone is already 236 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 5: diminished and they're they're back to their weary you know selves. 237 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: And so unless there's a but here's the thing, you 238 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: know as well as I do, there's that there's that 239 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: group of doughs didn't get bread. They'll come back in 240 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: and and if you find that, absolutely you might have 241 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 5: a big buck, just one around right in the middle 242 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 5: of the day. 243 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: But it's just not like it was. Does the type 244 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: of cover matter, like any particular vegetation or or you 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: just think anything thick? I think anything thick. 246 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: I think you know if you're if you're in a 247 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 5: like a thick grassy field. A lot of times this 248 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: time of year, that stuff's laid down. So it might 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: been thick early, but it's not thick now. So you 250 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 5: need to find something that's got some you know, high 251 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 5: stem count. But it's got to be it's got to 252 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 5: be robust because we've had some decent weather and some 253 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 5: of that places that used to be thick, the grass 254 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: is laid down and it's not near stick. They like 255 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 5: it thick, thick, I'm talking thick. 256 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: Okay. 257 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: So Arkansas is a state you can put corn on 258 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: the ground, and I know a lot of people do it, 259 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: and I ain't above it either, you know, especially if 260 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: you're trying to fill a late season tag. It's a 261 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: great way to do it. Do you have any tips 262 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: for hunting around bait in the late season. 263 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's absolutely effective, really really effective. And I do 264 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 5: it as well on some private land. I have a 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: couple of pieces that I did on and if I 266 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 5: was gonna do corn, the one thing that I don't 267 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 5: see happening, and I'm not seeing it never happens in 268 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: another somebody gonna say, well, I see it all the time, 269 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 5: like feeders or mechanical devices. I just find that that 270 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 5: bucks with any age on them at all, they just 271 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 5: don't go around them. 272 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: You're better off putting it on the ground. 273 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: Back to that is is that it doesn't last long 274 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: when you take all the raccoons and everything else. You know, 275 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: you gotta be you gotta lay it on the ground, 276 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: and you gotta be ready to hunt it, you know, 277 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: pretty quick, or it's gonna be it's gonna be eating up. 278 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 5: But I find much better success killing a buck with 279 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 5: any age class late season by putting it on the 280 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: ground and not not depending on some type of mechanical feeder. 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 282 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: Cool, all right, So with all that in mind, and 283 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: you know the discrepency and rup dates and all that, 284 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: but it being pretty late. If you had to give 285 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: buck movement daylight buck movement a scale of one to 286 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: ten rating in the state of Arkansas, what are you gonna. 287 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: Give it over the next week? 288 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna I hate to be Debbie of the Downer, 289 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna say five. 290 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: Hey, I mean that's bad. That's bad. I ain't this 291 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: neither down or up. Honestly, it's right. 292 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: In the middle, you know. 293 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: So that's pretty good. Yeah, I appreciate the report. Scott 294 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: and appreciate you so much. 295 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: Brother. Merry Christmas. Yeah, absolutely, Merry Christmas. 296 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: On the phone, I've got my buddy Rob Mendos with tether. 297 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: He is down hunting in Missouri and he's just giving 298 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: us a hard time. Honestly, he's just being a goofball. So, dude, 299 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: what's happening? 300 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 6: Not much, guys, how are you? How you been? 301 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: Good man? 302 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. 303 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 6: Merry Christmas to you too and everybody out there listening. 304 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: Thanks, dude. 305 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: I think it's cool that, like you're figuring out how 306 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: to hunt on Christmas Eve. 307 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you just have to have a family with a 308 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 6: farm and then get your your father in law down there, 309 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 6: and it's like you're still with family, but you're kind 310 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 6: of not. 311 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, easy enough. 312 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah it works, man, that's cool. So you've been doing 313 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: some hunting in Missouri. What are you doing right now? 314 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: Man? 315 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 6: They're moving, they're moving in the daylight. Mark, I get 316 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 6: a lot of activity the first two hours of daylight, obviously, 317 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 6: and then last night I had five bucks within thirty 318 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: yards or three of them at the same time, and 319 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 6: all of them within an hour of each other, about 320 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 6: an hour left the daylight, and they were crushing the 321 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: some acorns? 322 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: Really? What are those? Oh? Yeah, I got you? Okay, 323 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: I got you. 324 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 6: Now I forgot my dialog. 325 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah you're in the South, now, bro, you gotta say 326 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: it right when you're Missouri. I don't know about that. 327 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: Well, he's in South Missouri. Yeah, uh spit. But I 328 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: kind of to actually play off of that a little bit. 329 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: What kind of acorns are those that that the deer's 330 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: still eating? 331 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 6: These are actually where I was? Are the runnants of 332 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 6: the white oaks? 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: Really? 334 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 335 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: How about that? 336 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 6: Was there a big surprise that I replaced some camera batteries, 337 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 6: not really expecting much out of this one particular camera. 338 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 6: But this ridge system is just getting hammered, it's getting 339 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 6: lit up. 340 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: Was it was there a big drop? I mean, was 341 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: there a ton of acorns that dropped earlier this fall? 342 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: Or was it just not a normal thing and they just, 343 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: you know, they're they were especially heavy? Yeah? 344 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, yeah, probably i'd be looking for the was red, 345 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 6: you know. But yeah, they seem to have enough left 346 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 6: over that they're hitting them or at least scavenging them. 347 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: Do you is there any sort of retin action that 348 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: you can see or have seen on camera? 349 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 6: I had two little bucks just messing around a lot 350 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 6: of active scrapes, and I thought that it was probably 351 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 6: just the dose, but the camera's told me otherwise, and 352 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: watching him make a scrape yesterday, but it was probably, 353 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: you know, a two and a half year old deer 354 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 6: doing it. Let me two and a half year old 355 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 6: deer battling each other for a minute. 356 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this the So I've seen late 357 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: season scrapes where deer don't even scrape the ground, but 358 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: they'll use the licking branch. Still, did you actually see 359 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: this deer scrape the ground with his hoofs? 360 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 6: So the mega that I'm after it did was doing 361 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 6: what you were talking about, just hitting the licking branch. 362 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 6: The two and a half year old yesterday was digging 363 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 6: in the scrape. 364 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: Gotcha. 365 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: So what kind of inferences are you making off of 366 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: that show camera data? Are you just trying to inventory 367 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: and see where that big Bucky is or are you 368 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: kind of using that to backtrack him to betting? 369 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 6: Now I'm trying to backtrack him to betting so that 370 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 6: I can figure out where he's coming from, where he's 371 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 6: going to. I thought last night was definitely one of 372 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 6: my more high probability just based on what he was 373 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 6: doing leaving the property the night before the wind and 374 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 6: then his routine. 375 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: Of coming back on the property. So he just didn't 376 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: read the script. Are you are you? Do you have 377 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: any agg around or is it pretty much just fully 378 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: reliant on white oaks? No, there's not. 379 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 6: I don't think, Well, your neighbors aren't farming anything right now. 380 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 6: I don't think there's much eg around here. There's a 381 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 6: couple little food plots in a neighboring property. 382 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 3: So would you if you had food plots you think 383 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: that'd be more effective than acorns right now? 384 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like that might give some give a 385 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 6: man an advantage. 386 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: Really, So if you were if you had that on 387 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: on a on the uh neighbor's property, you would you 388 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: would be hunting deer that were moving to that as 389 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: opposed to finding places that there's still white oak a 390 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: white oak acorns on the ground. 391 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 6: If I wanted to kill any buck, I'd probably be 392 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 6: hunting over a food plot. If I wanted to kill 393 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 6: a smart, mature animal who's been a hunted hard all 394 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 6: season by all my neighboring properties, I'd probably be on 395 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 6: on acorns. 396 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: M Yeah, would you would you prefer to shoot this 397 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: deer this year or have a chance out of next year? 398 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm letting that God decide that one. 399 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: There you go, gotcha, gotcha? Very cool to you. Well, 400 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: it sounds like you're on the deer. Uh. 401 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: And it's you know, honestly a pretty uh. I don't know, 402 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: just optimistic outlook on things. So I'm ready to hear 403 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: what your number is on a scale of one to 404 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: ten for buck movement in Missouri? 405 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: What are you going to give it over the next 406 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: week based off the. 407 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 6: Past three days of having my cameras alive again, I'm 408 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 6: gonna put it out a nine. 409 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: Whoa, that is way up there. 410 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not a nine for everybody? Then, thank you Jesus. 411 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 7: There you go, dude. 412 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 413 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: Well, hey, y'all go have a merry Christmas, have some 414 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: phone family, and I appreciate the report. 415 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: Dude, Hey, take care of guys. 416 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 7: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year everybody. 417 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: My good friend and guy who films me a lot, 418 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: Greg Latham has been hunting in Texas, hunting like a maniac. 419 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: Actually, Greg, what's happening, bro? Uh? 420 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 8: No much, just trying to get a deer killed before 421 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 8: the end of the Texas season. 422 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: Hey, I have a question for you. Is this the 423 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: latest that you haven't filled a Texas tag ever? 424 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: Uh? 425 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 8: Well, the first deer I ever killed, I kill him 426 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 8: December twenty sixth. 427 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Gotcha, you possibly will be. 428 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: You got a few days. You might kill a deer tonight. 429 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: So that's uh, that's kind of cool. But the wind cooperates, yeah, ooh, yeah, 430 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: that's a whole nother thing right at the weather. So 431 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: let's talk about that in in in Texas right now? 432 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: Whatater deer doing? 433 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 8: Uh in Texas right now? The deer we're going everywhere 434 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 8: this past week, but uh, the weather's not really cooperating 435 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 8: neither cold front for deer to get really going. But 436 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 8: it's a it's been pretty good. 437 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, gotcha. 438 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: So do you have cameras that are looking pretty good 439 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: and you still have some pretty good suspects on the ground. 440 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 8: I do have a giant buck I'm after right now, 442 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 8: and he's been daylighting almost every day. Kind of it 443 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 8: doesn't even matter what the weather is, but he's been 444 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 8: showing up. 445 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: Gotcha. That's cool. So what's it take weather wise? Are 446 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: you trying to find a cold front? Are you trying 447 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: to find just the right wind, or like, what's the deal? 448 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: Why is he so hard to kill? 449 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 8: Well, I've been waiting for a cold morning to like 450 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 8: a frost, but I don't know if we're gonna get it. 451 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 8: But I think I'm gonna get some lower forties here 452 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 8: that next week, and I think that's when I'm gonna 453 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 8: go in and try to kill him. 454 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: Why do you need colder weather. 455 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 8: Well, he seems to daylight mostly on the coldest day. 456 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: He for sure daylight's on the coldest day. 457 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 8: So if I can get that weather front, I'm probably 458 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 8: gonna go in and try to kill him. 459 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: So when he daylights on days that aren't cold, you're 460 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: afraid that it's too aggressive and you might spook him, 461 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: like once he gets in there, or what he's coming 462 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: in or after you know it's dark and you leave 463 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: or what. 464 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, if I go in there, I want to kill him. 465 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 8: I don't want to mess around. Like sometimes on hotter 466 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 8: days he's gonna show up, you know, the last few 467 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 8: minutes of daylight. But on the cold, colder weather day, 468 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 8: he usually shows up with good daylight. 469 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: Got you so can you still in Texas? You know 470 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: kind of use rut top tactics. So you're gonna be 471 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: able to rake trees or rattle or whatever to kill deer. 472 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 8: Right now in this particular part of Texas, I don't 473 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 8: think so. But there are other parts of Texas it's 474 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 8: like it's going down right now. 475 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: Got But how would you determine if that's if you 476 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: are in the zone on that, I. 477 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 8: Mean judgment from trail camera data. I mean, you can 478 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 8: kind of tell if the deer fired up or not. 479 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 8: But I just know from history that this particular part 480 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 8: of Texas is not the it's not going down right now, 481 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 8: but there's still a little bit of red activity, but 482 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 8: it's not as far as up fired up as they 483 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 8: were like a month ago. 484 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: So are there any Are there any food sources outside 485 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: of corn that you you could focus on if you 486 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: were in that part of Texas that had a little 487 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: less red action going on. 488 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, if you had wheat or oats planted, 489 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 8: it would be it would be on. Like you're you're 490 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 8: seeing a ton of deer and I'm kind of worried 491 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 8: that my neighbors down the road have oats planted, and 492 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 8: I'm worried that this buck might end up down there. 493 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: So would you if you had, say you had a 494 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 3: food planted like that, or or you had a wheat 495 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: field planted on the neighbors next to you, would you 496 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: hunt closer to the betting or closer to the food 497 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: if you had an idea where the betting. 498 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 8: Was, I would hunt closer to the food. Right now, 499 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 8: deer seemed to be hammering food. We've had a couple 500 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 8: of frosts and it seems like everything's dead. So they're 501 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 8: hammering food right now. 502 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: Gotcha? Gotcha? 503 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: Is there any way that you could hunt a deer 504 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: on a morning right now or is it just too risky? 505 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 8: It's possible, but it's just it's just hard to know 506 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 8: where they're coming from. In the evenings, it's like you 507 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 8: kind of identify where the betting is and slip in 508 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 8: and like get between them and the food, and it's 509 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 8: not that hard. But in the in the mornings, you 510 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 8: don't know where they're at, and they could be out 511 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 8: cruising around and. 512 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: Giving the left. 513 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 8: I think, yeah, give me this. 514 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: So in the next week, if you had to put 515 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: a number on buck movement in the daytime on a 516 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: scale of one to ten, what are you gonna give it? Uh? 517 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 8: Where I'm hunting right now, it's gonna be about a six. 518 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: Gotcha? What about it? What about elsewhere where? You say 519 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: it's going on. 520 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 8: Elsewhere, there's place in Texas that's going down. I'd say 521 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 8: the next week is an eight or nine. 522 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: All right, good numbers out there, sir Well. I have 523 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: full confidence that you're gonna get it done this week. 524 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: Man. Uh, Merry Christmas to kill a big buck. Yeah, 525 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. This is the Element's own Casey Night. 526 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: He is currently in root to the second greatest state 527 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: in the country, Kentucky, to get you know, some of 528 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: that home cooking, but also to do a little deer hunt. 529 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: Right You've been kind of conversing with friends and family 530 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: and and looking at Chuck Hard and pictures and stuff. 531 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: Man, what's going on in Kentucky right now? 532 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 9: Casey Well, I think you know the party's pretty much over. 533 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 9: You know, it's I think it's time to just start 534 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 9: going back to hunting. 535 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: Bed to food. 536 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 9: You might have a little bit of rud action if 537 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 9: you have a hot dough in the area for some 538 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 9: stupid reason, but other than that, you know two words 539 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 9: corn pile. That's probably what what if you have that option, 540 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 9: you need to be focusing on because some some kind 541 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 9: as you can't bait anymore. So, but if you have 542 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 9: that option to hunt over you know, a bait pile 543 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 9: or just a good food source in general, I'd say 544 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 9: that's probably your best bed. 545 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: Corn pile is one word Eese Texas In case you're wondering, 546 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: So what if you don't have that option? Is there 547 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: like cut agfields or something that deer using, you know. 548 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 9: I'd say yeah, probably if I mean, you know, if 549 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 9: you have you know, act like a cut cornfield or 550 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 9: something that you know, some corns left over from the harvest. 551 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: I've seen them, like on my lease. 552 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 9: That happens quite a bit when there's corn, you know, 553 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 9: the farmer hill cut and then there's quite a bit 554 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 9: of corn just scattered on the ground and I'll see 555 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 9: him beating on it up until like late January or 556 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 9: whenever the seasons, I guess. 557 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: So, do you think that you could hunt mornings still 558 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: or is it pretty much gonna be evenings only at 559 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: this point in time? 560 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: I mean historically when I hunt this time of yere, 561 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: I'm seeing most of the action in the evenings for sure. 562 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 3: What's the what's the weather looking like in the next week, 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: Are we gonna get any cold weather? 564 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 9: From what I saw, I don't think it's going to 565 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 9: be super cold. I think I mean most of the 566 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 9: days are going to be in the forties or fifties, 567 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 9: which I feel like is a little bit warm for 568 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 9: this time of year. Usually usually I think by this 569 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 9: time we're seeing like thirties. I mean, sometimes we'll get 570 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 9: in the twenties. But I think it's gonna be pretty 571 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 9: warm in this next coming week. 572 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, for those northern latitudes. So you expect that deer 573 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 3: movement is going to be late in the evening or 574 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 3: is that going to depend on any other variables. 575 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: I would expect late in the evening. 576 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 9: I know last year I was on quite a bit 577 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 9: in like late December early January, and I wasn't really 578 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 9: seeing much until the last I mean the last hour 579 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 9: a lot pretty much. 580 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: So that that would mean that if you had a 581 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: bunch of holiday stuff going on, but you're only able 582 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: to get out for the last hour or so, that 583 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: it would still be worth going out. Probably. 584 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd say if you've got a buck on camera 585 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 9: that you know is hitting food consistently and you kind 586 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 9: of know what he's doing, I'd say it's definitely still 587 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 9: worth getting. 588 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: Out there, gotcha. Gotcha. 589 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So are you going to spend much time glassing 590 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: and observing or since you have kind of like a 591 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: short amount of time here, you're just going to hop 592 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: in in a place that's historically good. 593 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 9: Probably, I'm just gonna hop in a place that I 594 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 9: know I've seen him use in the past. That's probably. 595 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 9: I think that's going to be my best option at 596 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 9: this point. 597 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha. Do you have decent targets that are still 598 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: showing up on uh camera? I know, you know, we 599 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: kind of talked like Kentucky doesn't have a lot of 600 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: a gun season, but you said their gun season is 601 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: in the heart of the rut, So I would imagine 602 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: that kind of puts an impact on how many are 603 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: still around. 604 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely noticeable. 605 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 9: Uh you know, you have all these deer on camera 606 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 9: before gun season, then once getting season, it's all disappear 607 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 9: because they're probably all there. 608 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't I have a like maybe two. 609 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 9: On camera that I might shoot, but the pretty time, 610 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 9: I pretty love steam. 611 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: So are they going to be would you be closer 612 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: to betting or would you be closer to food in 613 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: this situation, Well. 614 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 9: I probably I like being close to bedding because you 615 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 9: have a better chance of seeing him earlier on in 616 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 9: the evening if you're closer to bedding, catching them going 617 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 9: from the bed to food. 618 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: So I like to be closer to bed. 619 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: Gotcha, gotcha, we know that. Yeah, we know you like sleep. 620 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: All right, guys, I'm gonna use his nickname because that's 621 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: how we actually know him. And this is Cupcake, Cuppy 622 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: or cup and so cup. If you had to rank 623 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: buck movement daylight buck movement on a scale of one 624 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: to ten in the state of Kentucky over the next week, 625 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: what would you give it. 626 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to give it a three. Three. 627 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 9: There's still a chance you might catch a little bit 628 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 9: of ruddy Buck, but I think chances are pretty slim. 629 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate the honest number three is a very 630 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 2: realistic number I would imagine. 631 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: So a way to go, dude. 632 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: Hey, I hope you still get it done up there, man, 633 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you, dude. 634 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. 635 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all too, Merry Christmas. 636 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 3: Man. 637 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: Those are better reports than I expected for the last 638 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: retfresh of the season. There's still a lot of optimism 639 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: and a lot of reason to be in the woods. 640 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: I hope everybody gets what they wanted for Christmas, and 641 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: what you should have wanted was just some time with 642 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: your family and friends and to be thankful for the 643 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: stuff that we get and bucks. Yeah maybe you maybe 644 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: you did get something that you really wanted, like a 645 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: new Element T shirt or something. 646 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: Who knows, Yeah you didn't because. 647 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: But anyways, guys, thank y'all so much for listening throughout 648 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: this season. It's been a blast getting to talk to 649 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody and to actually hear from folks who said that 650 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: Refresh helped them out. And I'm thankful that, uh, the 651 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: effort that we can put in can actually be useful 652 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: for you all to get some good information. 653 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: From Hey, quick tip, don't just focus on your family. 654 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: There are people out there that can be kind of 655 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: lonely this time of year, So make sure that you 656 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: send a text to somebody if you think they might 657 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: not have a whole lot of family goings on. Might 658 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: just be the thing that helps them optimistically get through 659 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: this season. So do that real quick, and then also 660 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: head on over to the Element podcast here in just 661 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: a second and check out the episode that I did 662 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: with Scott pre Christmas here this week on the Element 663 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: podcast about Arkansas hunting and just live stuff and appreciate 664 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: all the support on the Element podcast as well here 665 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: on the Wire to Hunt podcast. You guys keep the 666 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: lights on and make this thing a possibility for us 667 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: and we're blessed by you guys for sure. Marry Christmas. 668 00:31:49,320 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: This has been rough, fresh, keep it fresh.