1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Welcome Birg Gang. We reported we passed our run test. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: We're ready for training camp. Okay, maybe there was no 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: running involved, but we are here at State Farm Stadium. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals training Camp powered by Cox. On today's show, 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Jordan Hicks they're also here, but Larry 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is not. Also It's become quite clear there is 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: a singular focus among the players playoffs. It's Cardinals Cover two, 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Episode four forty five, and it starts now. Welcome to 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolew and Mike Jarecki. 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And I'll say this 16 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: mj our location here for Cardinals training Camp powered by 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Cox in twenty twenty one, much different than in years past. 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm liking this loft three oh one set up here 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to well downstairs where you don't get to 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: see anything. Even this is much better than the press box. 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I could get used to this. I can get used 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: to the sun game day. Yeah, yes, here, Yes, as 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: we sit here at about what about the forty forty 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: five yard line, the field not all the way in, 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: so you're probably, yeah, this is good. We might have 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: to make some arrangements to on game day just you know, 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: do pregame and post game from here. I mean, why not? 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Good luck? Yeah, exactly, good luck. All right, let's let's 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: get into it because as we speak, yes, training camp 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: has arrived, as we have as well here at State 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium. And I will say this, as we discussed 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: earlier this week on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, our top storylines and 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: number one for me outside of COVID nineteen. But number 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: one was the fact that there was going to be 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: no Larry Fitzgerald. I'll give the media credit. It took 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: the tenth question before it was asked to head coach 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. Tenth question, tenth question now based on Kingsbury's answers, 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: we'll get into some of the things he was quoted on. 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Is you could see that he knew was coming and 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: he's probably tired of talking about it just a little bit. 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: As he said, the balls in his court talking about 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald in the bottom line, as we've said this 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: from day one, and I'm still it's mind boggling that 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: here we are at the end of July with no decision. 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: But you've been very consistent. If fitz wants to play, 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: he'll play for the Arizona Cardinals. If he doesn't want 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: to play, then he won't play. But I don't see 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: him playing for anyone else, and there will be a 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: spot open. Kingsbury made that very clear. If fitz wants 51 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to play, there will be a roster spot made available 52 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: to number eleven. And you know, basically after the season, 53 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: Cliffs said, Larry is going to take as much time 54 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: as he needs paraphrase, and he's earned it. He'll be 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: ready when he's ready to make a decision. But we've 56 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: maintained all along that he's been he has a contract 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: or in this case, he's to a point where they're 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: want him to bring him back. Now, you know, Clift 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: had also mentioned that the wide receiver position is deeper 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: than probably last year, which on paper it is, but 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: we've known all along that he's been welcome back here. 62 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean it came out yesterday because now the balls 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: in his court. And again, I don't know if we're 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: going to have any decision from Larry Fisher old no, 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: And at this point, you know, you hate to say 66 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: we move on, but we move on. I mean, the 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: team can't wait. They've made a number of decisions within 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, as far as the signing the 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: free agent AJ Green, the drafting of Rondel Moore. So 70 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: this team is prepared to move on without Larry Fitzgerald. 71 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: And that's perfectly fine because it was going to happen 72 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: sooner or later. And we know here is whether or 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: not there will be another season with eleven wearing a 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals uniform that we were in the later stages of 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Fitz's career, because we've done this cat and mouse game 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: now for the last handful of seasons. And along those lines, 77 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you know the fact that you know Larry 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: wasn't here and it was a big deal. I mean, 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: we're so used to him being at the run test 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: and you know, usually he's available the first couple of 81 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: days of training camp and he gets the questions out 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: of the way, and then we don't really talk to 83 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: him maybe before the season starts. We normally talked to 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: him on you know, Wednesdays during the season. So yeah, 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people think that 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: maybe he's going to show up at some point in time, 87 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: and I just don't know that. I don't have those 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: conversations with him. I would never ask him that stuff. 89 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: It's just not you know, our relationship. But at this 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: point time, it's you know, it's full goal with the 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: roster they have, and so Larry will make a decision 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: when he needs to or wants to, and at that 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: point in time, we know that the Cardinals would like 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: to have him back under I got certain circumstances which 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: would be the salary. It was good to see both 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Jordan Hicks and attendance during the run 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: tests they have reported to training camp, and that was 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: the other big storyline that we were following, what was 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: going to happen with those two players given what had 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: transpired in the offseason. Jordan Hicks reportedly given permission to 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: seek a trade Chandler Jones reportedly asking for a trade. 102 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: Have not heard from either one of those players as 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: of now, as far as as we speak here and 104 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, but certainly at some point I do believe 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: we will hear from both Chandler and Jordan coming out 106 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: of their mouths. But at this point, I mean, look, 107 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: there was they hit. Neither one of them had any 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: leverage whatsoever. And if they want to be a part 109 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: of the I was on the Cardinals, there there's a 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: spot for both of them, especially Chandler Jones. Yeah, and 111 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a chance to talk to Vans show, 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: so I think a little bit later in the week. 113 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: You know, obviously he's got a role for both of 114 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: those guys. Obviously Chandler is going to be a starter. 115 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: And you know, you just look at the depth behind 116 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: Collins and Simmons and to me that there's a hole 117 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: right there. And that's where Jordan Hicks experience can come in. 118 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Not saying he's going to be a three down linebacker 119 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: covering guys in the open field, he may bring them 120 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: in and you know, as Colin's going to play every 121 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: single snap now according to the Carlins. He's a three 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: down linebacker as Isaiah Simmons, gonna play every single stap, 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: Buda Baker playing every snap. We know JJ Watt. We're 124 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: interested and curious to see what his snap count's going 125 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: to be. So yeah, and Chandler looked good. You know, 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I've been, you know, banging the drum last year. I 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: thought he was a little heavy coming into camp. Maybe 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: it was because of the offseason where this year they 129 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: were able to go to the facility and work out 130 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: and he's going into the final year of his contract. 131 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: But he was in great shape yesterday and he did 132 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: the conditioning test and he was smiling, in good spirits. 133 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: So again, once you get here, you're part of it, 134 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: and this is where you lay the groundwork when it 135 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: comes to trust and building relationships. Of course, he's familiar 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys on the roster, but 137 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: there are some new faces. But I think he's in 138 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: a good spot. And whether the Cardinals decided to reward 139 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: him with a contract extension, I think right now the 140 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: focus is how does he return from the injury. And 141 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: he's going to be thirty two in February, and you know, 142 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure he wants a contract extension just from a 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: security standpoint, But if I'm the Cardinals, I don't know 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: what the hurry is. No, and especially coming off an 145 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: injury like he had a year ago. Now it was 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: a biceps injury, it wasn't a knee injury or an 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: ankle so and as we've seen, he's posted a number 148 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: of different pictures and video on his social media accounts, 149 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: So to your point, he does look very good. I 150 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: like the fact that Cliff Kingsbury described Chandler Jones as 151 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: quote jovial, and we all all know Chandler's personality and 152 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: you know what he always you know, what gets reported 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: versus who Chandler Jones is as a person, at least 154 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: what we get to see of him. Jovial, I think 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: is a pretty apt description, because he was all smiles, 156 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: he was bouncing around, he was you know, handshakes and 157 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: hugs to everyone. He saw fist bumps. So it was 158 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: good to see him. Because I do think if you 159 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: have a healthy Chandler Jones and you pair him up 160 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: with the JJ watt, you get that pass rush, then 161 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it becomes much easier on the 162 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: back end. You're not asking as much out of the 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: secondary and the injury to Chandler Jones. I did think, 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: you know, as well as the defense played last season 165 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: without Chandler Jones, as far as getting to the quarterback. 166 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: You know, as I mentioned before, you can't count on 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: that year end and year out. That's too difficult of 168 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: a task for any defensive coordinator because the roster is 169 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: always turning over. You want one guy? Do you want 170 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: to be able to count on one guy for the Cardinals? 171 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Since he arrived in twenty sixteen, Chandler Jones has been 172 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: that guy. Now he might have the best help he's 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: had apologies to Marcus Golden, but with JJ Watt and 174 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you've got bookends. And as 175 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: we've heard from our colleague bertrand Berry on the Cardinals 176 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: Red Seat Report, he wants to see Chandler and JJ 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: on opposite sides as opposed to maybe stacking the deck 178 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: on one particular side. And I think we're going to 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: see the Cardinals move around Poul, Chandler Jones and JJ Watton. 180 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going against an all pro guarden 181 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: or center, and not saying he can't win that matchup, 182 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: but if he got a right tackle that maybe has 183 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: only been a league a year or two. That's a 184 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: good observation you had, because when Chandler Jones stepped on 185 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: the field here, he went over and gave a hug 186 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: to Steve Kime, he went over, hugged Cliff Kingsbury, Billy 187 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: David's fans, Joseph and clearly, I mean he's been he 188 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: was in the building, but clearly wasn't there for the 189 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp or some of the OTAs. So it 190 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: was good to see that. And so he's here to 191 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: play football. I mean he's betting on himself. Put up 192 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: big numbers. Now, the last time that Marcus Golden and 193 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones were together before they made the trade because 194 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: they didn't play together last year. The reason why they 195 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: went out and got Marcus gold because Chandler Jones went 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: down is Marcus gold I had twelve and a half 197 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: sacks and Chandler, I want to say, had ten. Now, 198 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: I think those numbers can fluctuate. Is JJ Watt more 199 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: of a seven and a half sack? Guys? He nine? 200 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: And you bring up a good point though, because Reddick 201 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: had what twelve and a half correct and then Dennis 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: Garduck seven and a half. I believe that was the 203 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: numbers from last case at twelve and a half and 204 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: seven for guards seven. So you won't buy committee last 205 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: year where you take away those sacks. That's where Chandler 206 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Jones only had one sack in five games. He can 207 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: get you sixteen to eighteen if he's able to play 208 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: every single down or the majority of the snap. So 209 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I think that's what they're banking on. And like you said, 210 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: every team has one guy that can get to the quarterback. 211 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: Now you look at you know when Gardick returns, and 212 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: you look at Marcus Golden, and it wouldn't surprise me 213 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: if we see Simmons blitz at some point. Now you've 214 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: got some pass rushers and if you can control the 215 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage with JJ Watt and Jordan Phillips. Last season, 216 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals tied for fourth most sacks with four gate 217 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: but a league high eighteen players recorded at least one sack, 218 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: and they had twelve different players record two or more 219 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: sex That's that was the XS and o's avance, Joseph, 220 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: because you did not have a Chandler Jones. I don't 221 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: need to have eighteen different players record a sack. To 222 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: your point, if you've got Chandler Jones, Marcus Golden, maybe 223 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: even a little Devon Kanard, j J. Watt, Jordan Phillips inside, 224 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: then you've got four legitimate pass rushers and then whoever 225 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: comes up from the linebacker, you know, the inside linebacker 226 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: or the secondary. I like where this team stands on paper. Now, 227 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: obviously we need to see it come out on Sundays exactly, 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: but if you just look at where they were a 229 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: year ago at this time compared to what they have, 230 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have more options now. I 231 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: mean there last year, you know, Tanner Valajos on the 232 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: field because Jordan Hicks was hurt. Isaiah Simmons, you know, 233 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: fortunate enough he was on the field against the Seattle 234 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks where he got that pick, was able to recoverage. 235 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: So this year, I mean, when you look at the 236 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: outside linebacker's healthy, Canard, no COVID, Marcus Golden, you can 237 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: pencil him in for seventeen games, and then you look 238 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: at Chandler Jones, hopefully seventeen games, so I think they'll 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: have a better rotation. And then depending on Gardick returning, 240 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: you know he's not going to play a ton of snaps. 241 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: He played ninety three snaps last year, had seven sacks, 242 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: he had tackle for losses. And he's a guy that 243 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: probably when you break the huddle and you look at 244 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: he's undersize, But now you can I wouldn't say you 245 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: can junk it up, but you have options now a 246 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Russian quarterback and still have coverage in the secondary. Here's 247 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: what Kingsbury had to say about Chandler Jones. Quote. We 248 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: felt like we missed him last year when he was injured. 249 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: He brings such a presence and the locker room on 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: the field that we get him back and having him 251 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: rolling again is going to be big for us end quote. 252 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: And everyone from the head coach to the players that 253 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: spoke so far this week, Chase Edmonds and Christian Kirk, 254 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: they understand that what happens in the offseason, what happens 255 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: off the field, does not affect what happens on the 256 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the contracts and the reported request for 257 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: a trade. That's just part of the business of the 258 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: National Football League. But when you step between those wide lines, 259 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: there is a different mindset. Then all of a sudden, 260 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: it's about your job. What you can help this team 261 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: do on defense and overall. So I do not think 262 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a distraction. I'll say 263 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: the same thing about Jordan Hicks. I don't think this 264 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: is going to be a distraction either, because both players 265 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: are professional and both players understand that, you know, if 266 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: you make it difficult or you make a stink, then 267 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, maybe you do find 268 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: yourself on the out, but there's no guarantee that the 269 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: grass is greener on the other side. Yeah, listen, I 270 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: ever since the Cardinals signed Jordan Hicks and he became 271 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a captain again in the last couple of years, maybe 272 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: he didn't have the right rush defense to where he 273 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: was making tackles four or five yards past the line 274 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. It was a mismatch when Campbell went down. 275 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: He has to cover tight ends. But to me, I'm 276 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: sure he's looking forward a competition. I mean, you got 277 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: you got a rookie and Collins who a pencilvan as 278 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: a starter. We know Simmons is a guy that can 279 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: do multiple things. So to me, I like the fact 280 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: that he can be her first guy coming in versus 281 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Turner or Vallejo. So I you know, I think he's 282 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: going to try to earn some playing time, but competition 283 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: is a good thing bring out and I just think 284 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: he's a true pro. So I think he's willing to 285 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: help Simmons like he did last year, and I think 286 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: he's willing to help Collins this year. And you got 287 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: to have continuity in that room. You're rooting for all 288 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: for each other even though they're trying to get the 289 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: most playing time. Kingsbury did say Hicks quote is going 290 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: to come in and compete his tail off end quote. 291 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Now I mentioned earlier on the Cardinals Red Seat Report 292 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: when those quotes came about at the end of our 293 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: show this week, that is like, okay, well, what's he 294 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: competing for? Because I am curious MJ that you have 295 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: from day one and Cardinals fly plan. We saw it 296 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: general manager Steve com once that pick was made, and 297 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: we joked that it was like pointing directly at me 298 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: because day one starter talking about Zaven Collins. Yet what 299 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: happens here over the next several weeks and you're competing 300 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: and I use air quotes and all of a sudden, 301 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks is proving to be a little bit ahead 302 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: or maybe a lot ahead of his Zaven Collins. What 303 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: does this team do is it prepared to make that switch, 304 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: because that was for me, the trouble with going out 305 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: so far as to say he's our day one starter 306 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: because he hasn't earned anything talking about Zaven Collins, and 307 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: that to me is a concern. Why put so much 308 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: pressure on a young player who's, yes, very talented, but 309 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: he's never done it at this level as opposed to 310 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, who's got two years under his belt within 311 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: this defense, and all of a sudden, maybe it's a 312 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: slower transition from Hicks to Collins as opposed to right 313 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: out of the gate. They feel that they feel that 314 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: high on him. I mean they thought he was one 315 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: of the better defensive players in the draft, like Simmons 316 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: last year. So listen, let's talk to him about Hicks. 317 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: Everyone on the team wants to know their role. So 318 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: you see the next man up at inside linebacker. I mean, 319 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: injuries do happen, so he'll find a role on this team. 320 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: And again what that role is. I don't think it's 321 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: going to be a full time player. You know, I 322 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: understand what the Cardinals are doing. You drafted a guy 323 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: eighth overall last year, and they kind of wanted to, 324 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, slow play him, but unfortunately they had to 325 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: move them around a little bit. You then you draft 326 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: a guy at sixteen and they feel like that's the 327 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: trend in the league. Now. You got to have these 328 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: athletic inside linebackers that can go from sideline to sideline. 329 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: You know, I wonder what the questions were about Patrick 330 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: Willis and no Barrow Bowman when they arrived. I mean, 331 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: how long did it take Devin White and Lavante David 332 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: to kind of come together and under Todd Bowls? And 333 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: then you look at you know, some other teams Luke 334 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Keekley and Thomas Davis. I mean, those guys were a 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: little bit older in her career. So and in advance 336 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: has already told us there's gonna be mistakes, there's gonna 337 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: be growing pains. You just hope those mistakes may happen 338 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: early in the season in a month of September, they 339 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: don't happen again in October, November, and December. Otherwise you 340 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: have to get more experienced on the field. I just 341 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: hope that those mistakes aren't costly mistakes or that are 342 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: so huge that all of a sudden in September where 343 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: there's a learning curve that those mistakes are costing your 344 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: wins because it was just one win last season that 345 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: kept this team out of the postseason. And you're exactly right. 346 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Let's say he gets the call from the sidelines and 347 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the formation changes and he changes 348 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: a call. Now, you would think a guy like Buddha 349 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Baker with the experience in the defense, or maybe a 350 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: guy like Chandler Jones, can say, all right, this is 351 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: where we need to line up. You make the wrong 352 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: call and they see a gap and next thing, you know, 353 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: a five yard run becomes a forty yard run. That's 354 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: where you got to cut down in those big plays, 355 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: another way to keep everything in front of you. But 356 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: if he makes a call and they notice something different 357 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: and there's a sliver or you know, a crease there, 358 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a big play, that's where you 359 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: need to have experience out there. And he's only going 360 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: to get better by being on the field. And that's 361 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: why I think it's imperative that he plays in a 362 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: couple of preseason games. Well, and that's to your point. 363 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: The difference between Isaiah Simmons last year versus Avian Collins. 364 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: This year is OTA's mini camp and a full training 365 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: camp and three preseason games as opposed to Isaiah Simmons, 366 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: who had none of that. Last season was basically week 367 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: one on the field, and we know he was exploited 368 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: by the forty nine ers on that touchdown early in 369 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: the contests, and then we didn't see Simmons for a 370 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: little while. So any rep that Collins gets now is 371 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: only going to benefit him come September twelfth. And I 372 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: think he's got enough veteran presence out there between J. J. Watt, 373 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how vocal. Jordan Phillips is more a 374 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: guy that's going to try to crash the pile and 375 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: tackle for losses and hit the quarterback. He got Chandler 376 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: out there, so you know, I think he's got enough 377 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: veteran guys. You know, maybe the first couple of possessions, 378 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: they come off the field and say, have you what 379 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: are you seeing? Because Bertram Berry has always talked about 380 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: your eyes. Your eyes have to be in the right spot, 381 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: and if you're looking at the quarterback all the time, 382 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: that's not going to be the good thing. Wear your eyes, 383 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: So maybe you know after a couple possessions, but I 384 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: think they got another veteran guys not so much. JJ. 385 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: He hasn't been in the system, but he's played with 386 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: fans in a similar system in Houston, So I think 387 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little carry over to where if 388 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: a veteran sees something, he can help the young guy. 389 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: Last points on Collins and Simmons as we continue here 390 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday, probably partner of the 391 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Yes, we have reported to Cardinals training camp 392 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: powered by Cox. We are here at State Farm Stadium 393 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: and we'll be for the duration of training camp. It's 394 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: always good to get out of the office. And of course, 395 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: as we talked about, our view here from laft three 396 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: oh one is pretty good. Just need to need to 397 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: make some phone calls. MJ. You've got the stroke here 398 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: to make sure that this might be our home away 399 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: from home if you will come to the regular seas. 400 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: I think some fans and season ticket holders and holders 401 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: are going to be sitting here and we'll be in 402 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: the press box. By the way, did you catch this 403 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: NFL dot com talking about the two young ens odd 404 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: linebackers Lanzer line who is Big with the Draft, listed 405 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: his top ten NFL defensive Rookie of the Year candidates, 406 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: and he had Collins and at number five, behind Quitty pay, 407 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, jam And Davis, and Michael Parsons, the latter 408 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: whom is number one. And I think there's a lot 409 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: of people that believe Parsons could be the guy this year, 410 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: but a top ten candidate for Defensive Rookie of the Year, 411 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it is because he's 412 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna play a lot this year and he should fill 413 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: up the stat sheet again he holds those tackles are 414 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage or one or two yards 415 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: and you know, not four or five yards passed the line. Yeah. 416 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Last year, I think it was a shoe win that 417 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: Chase Young was gonna win. It's just based usually if 418 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: you get a guy that's a pass rusher and a 419 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: guy like Chase Young played pretty much every down and 420 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: he won the Rookie of the Year. I don't know 421 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: if there's one guy this year that you could say, oh, 422 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna win. Its based on him rushing the passer. 423 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: But some of the guys you mentioned are our guys 424 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: are on the outside, where Collins is going to get 425 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: a chance to get a lot of tackles, hopefully some 426 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: tip balls and interceptions based on them getting pressure up front. Yeah, 427 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: Collins could really fill up the statute. It might not 428 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: be overwhelming numbers across the board, but he will fill 429 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: every single category. Tackles, tackle for losses, maybe even a 430 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: sack or two, and then maybe the interceptions, the force fumbles, 431 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: the fumble recovers. I mean he literally could have at 432 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: least one or two in every single defensive category. Again, 433 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna have help. I don't know. You know, it's 434 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to have a force fumble, a fumble 435 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: recovery every single week. I know what you're saying, though, 436 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: he'll do. He'll fill up the statute a little bit 437 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: different than your normal inside linebacker because he's going to 438 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: play one position and he's going to allow the other 439 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: guys around him to make plays, and that's where he'll 440 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: be able to come in and scoop up, similar to 441 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: what we've seen some of these inside linebackers have done 442 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: over the years. Also from NFL dot Com, Cynthia Freelan, 443 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: the analytics expert, projected her most improved player on each 444 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: NF team, and for the Cardinals, he singled out Isaiah Simmons. 445 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: And I've heard her on the NFL Network talk about 446 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: this a few times this offseason, so this is nothing 447 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: new for her, but this is what she wrote. Quote. 448 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: This projection is fueled by later season progress, perhaps suggesting 449 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: the lack of regular camp and preseason games last year 450 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: initially stunted his growth. With a season under Simmons's belt 451 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: and a real offseason in which to learn, I can't 452 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: wait to see how the Swiss Army Knife performs in 453 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: this defense alongside Buddha Baker, and that is something we 454 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: discussed earlier as far as having a full offseason and 455 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: now a full season under his belt. Isaiah Simmons, I 456 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: think that light bulb went on on Sunday Night football 457 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: against the Seattle Seahawks. He only played. It was his 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: fifth defensive stat when he picked off Russell Wilson in overtime, 459 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like, Okay, I can 460 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: do this at this level. And I think he understands 461 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: what it takes now. And it's always a little bit 462 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: of an eye opener going from college to the pros, 463 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: even coming from a big time program of Clemson, and 464 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: I think Simmons is poised to have a breakout season 465 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: if you will. But you know, on the flip side, 466 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: is there's nowhere to go butt up for him considering 467 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: what he did or did not do last season. You know, 468 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: normally you see guys make a jump from year one 469 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: to two, and you got to put an asterisk there 470 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: because they didn't have an off season. And then we 471 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: talk about quarterbacks making the jump from year two to three, 472 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's a number. He went 473 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: from forty eight to number nine. To me, he's got 474 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: his swag back like you saw in college. He's comfortable, 475 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: he's confident, he's mingling with his teammates. So I think 476 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: he's in a good spot. And now the fact that 477 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: they got colins next to him, getting Chandler and Jones 478 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: and Marcus Colton, you know, he should be able to 479 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: make plays in this defense, and that's what they're asking for. 480 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he should be all over the field when 481 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: it comes to their defense. And when we hurt from 482 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: Simmons this offseason, he was very open and honest. Quote 483 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: last year was a little rough, and then he mentioned 484 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: that he's never going to make any excuse for anything 485 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: that did happen, but I do think it was a 486 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: learning experience for him, and I'm excited to see what 487 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: he can do because you pair the two pretty trees, 488 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: if you will, that has been described of those two, 489 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: but you're talking about six five sixty four, and all 490 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, quarterbacks have to throw a little bit 491 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: higher over the outstretched arms of those two. And I 492 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: do think you'll see Vans Joseph utilize both of them 493 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: in a number of different ways. But homebase is going 494 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: to be inside linebacker for both. Yeah, I don't want 495 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: to put too much pressure on those guys. I like 496 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: to look at this front seven defense because they can't 497 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: do it alone. It all starts up front, and that's 498 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: where J J. Watt and we'll see who's at nose tackle. 499 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: They got a good little rotation. They were Lucky Foe 500 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: two and Richard Lawrence Xavier Williams's back and then you 501 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: got Phillips. So that's where it all starts. When I 502 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: look at the front seven, that's I mean, you can't 503 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: just rely on those two linebackers. Those guys got to 504 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: do their job up front and then hopefully you get 505 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: some passions from the outside and that's where they can 506 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: get some tip balls and tackles or possibly in So 507 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: to me, when I look at the two linebackers, I 508 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: got to look at the front seven because that's going 509 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: to dictate how effect that those guys will be. Cardinals 510 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hyundai. We have reported to Cardinals 511 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: training camp powered by Cox here at State Farm Stadium. 512 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: As we continue here, we did have an opportunity to 513 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: hear from a couple of players so far, and that 514 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: being Chase Edmonds and Christian Kirk. And you listen to 515 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: both of those and I think we're gonna hear a 516 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: lot of the same from any player that we speak 517 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: to during training camp. And that is the singular focus 518 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: of everyone in that locker room, whether it's a coach, 519 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: an assistance or a player, and that is postseason. This 520 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: team is focused on getting into the playoff picture, or 521 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: not just a picture. I'm getting into the playoff race. 522 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: A couple of things we'll talk about Kirk's comments, but 523 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: one thing that stock off from Chase Edmonds. He said, 524 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: we really didn't have an identity last year, and clearly 525 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: in the second half teams Cardiff maybe the offense was predictable, 526 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe because Kyler was ailing with some 527 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: injuries or just some bumps and bruises. And I always 528 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: thought when Cliff and answered that question, it was about 529 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: temple physicality and finishing. And we know they didn't finish, 530 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: so that's important. These guys want to know what's the 531 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: identity of the offense going in. Well, I gotta think 532 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: run the football, play action, takes some shots down the field, 533 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: but you want to win the line of scrimmage. So 534 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting about the identity of this offense. 535 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: This is year number three. I think we know the 536 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: identity the offense eleven and twelve personnel which sprinkled with 537 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: ten personnel, and when they go to their four minute offense, 538 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: you got to think that James Connor is going to 539 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: be on the field, that this team can ever get 540 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: a lead. So it's interesting to say about identity. And 541 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: Chase knows his role, He's willing to accept his role, 542 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: and he knows it's going to be a good one 543 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: two punch with him and James Conner. Yeah, that is 544 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: going to be fun to watch those two, whether they 545 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: share the backfield or share the football field. With one 546 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: in the backfield, one lined up as a slot receiver. 547 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: But I think you're going to see a lot of 548 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: both Edmonds and James Connor. And I think Edmonds had 549 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: the line or the statements of camp to dates about 550 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: last season quote, we folded point blank period. We got 551 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: to be better. And he's talking about how this season 552 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: or last season ended with the back to back losses 553 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers and to the Rams, the 554 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: home loss to San Francisco certainly inexcusable, and just maybe 555 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: some bad luck in Los Angeles when Kyle the Murray 556 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: went down. But this team has to finish off seasons. 557 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: You talk about finishing games, but finish off seasons. And 558 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that this team has not been 559 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: able to do under head coach Cliff Kingsbury last year 560 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: three and six after the buy two and four post Thanksgiving. 561 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: That can't happen, especially if you want to be a 562 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: postseason team. Well, you know, you gotta avoid losing streaks. 563 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: You can't go in a three game losing streak in 564 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: this league. And it's tough because you usually have one 565 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: or two games at home or one or two hundred roads, 566 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: but you gotta avoid losing streaks and we know how 567 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: disappointed in an upset we were the Monday after the season. 568 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: Here's a player. Imagine what they went through because they 569 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: started feeling and tasting the postseason. You know, we were 570 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: talking about seating at some point last year. You know 571 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: they you know clearly with Seattle winning twelve games, you're 572 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: just hoping to get in. And it was between them 573 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: and the Bears and the Vikings. So you could tell 574 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: the player. It affected the players and maybe they use 575 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: it as a motivation. We can't focus on the past. 576 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: You to look ahead. But I like the fact that 577 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: he you know, he talked about how they folded and 578 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: that should be motivation going into this season. Yeah, it 579 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: is going to be something that has brought up a lot, 580 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: the start till last year and the finish till last year, 581 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: in which this team won just two games after beating 582 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills on the Hell Murray the high point 583 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: of the season. We didn't know it at the time, 584 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: but it went downhill from there, unfortunately, and the Cardinals 585 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: had a number of chances to get into the postseason 586 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: and unable to get through that door. Christian Kirk brought 587 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: it up as well, that the team's goal, quote is 588 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: to shoot for nothing less than make a playoff push. 589 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: And I'll even go further that it's a playoff push, 590 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: but getting through that door and being among those seven 591 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: teams that's competing in January for an opportunity to go 592 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Yeah, it was also interesting. Christian 593 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: Kirk was after about Larry Fitzgerald just because they shared 594 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: a locker next to each other, and tren Sherfield was 595 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: there for a while too. Yeah, he said it was 596 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: a lot different. But you know, he said he was 597 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: able to learn a lot of things from Larry in 598 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: the last four years, and not even just so much football, 599 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: but off the field, how do you present yourself being 600 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: a professional? And Christian Kirk, I like his attitude going 601 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: into camp. He knows it's going to be a big 602 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: year for him. He's got a guy like Rondel Moore 603 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: competing with him. But I think Kirk has earned the 604 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: trust of Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury in the offense 605 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: where he's going to be a big part of this offense. Yes, 606 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: he may mean get the most targets, but I do 607 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: think if you want to spread the ball around and 608 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: use your second or third option. Kirk is going to 609 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: be a viaball option. It's a contract gear for him. 610 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: He was asked about that. He's very aware of what 611 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: his situation is. But I don't see, you know, following 612 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: his career going all the way back to high school days, 613 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: it's got still swarld. I don't think you know, he's 614 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: a self motivated individual, and much like a lot of 615 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: professional athletes, they're not expecting or we can't put expectations 616 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: upon them that they don't have for themselves. And I 617 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: just think that there is a lot of motivation, internal 618 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: motivation from Christian Kirk one to stay healthy and then 619 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: be a part, a large part of this offense. And 620 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: we're going to see him though playing hopefully maybe a 621 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: little bit more outside wide receiver to where maybe that 622 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: becomes his role or his spot in this offense. I mean, 623 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: I got to think that a J Green on one 624 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: side and hop on the other, and you know, Hoped 625 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: lined up on the left side eighty two percent of 626 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the time last year. That was the most in the 627 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: NFL since twenty fourteen. So I hope they move them 628 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: around a little bit this year. But I think you're 629 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna see Kirk and Ron del Moore in the slot 630 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: and when they go for wide, they'll both be in 631 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: the slot. And speaking the receivers. AJ Green, boy does 632 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: he look good and shorts and a helmet. He looks 633 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: ready to play. His lower torso is thick, like you 634 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: can see why he runs these routes. And I don't 635 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: know if I'm bullish on him. I just want to 636 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: see what he can do with Kyler Murray and you 637 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: can see the chemistry there. And we really won't know 638 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: until they can put the pads on. But I've been 639 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed the way he goes about his business. You 640 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: can see he's focused on, you know, obviously resurrecting his career, 641 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: is considering what happened in Cincinnati. So I like that 642 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: pickup and now we need to see it on game day. 643 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: AJ Green and the rest of the Arizona Cardinals bird 644 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Gang in the first opportunity to see this team in action, 645 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: or I should say, in an open practice setting is 646 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: this Friday. And go to asy Cardinals dot com for 647 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: more information on how you can be a parts of 648 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty Arizona Cardinals team. As far as getting 649 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: your first glimpse of what this team potentially has the 650 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to do this season because the expectations MJ are 651 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: very very high on this season year three for the 652 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: head coach Kyler Murray and everyone else within this offense 653 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: and this defense, and not to discount special teams, but 654 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of eyes on this football team. Yeah, 655 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: And my reference point was when he was intent being 656 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: out here. They haven't gotten to their ramp up period, 657 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: so you've just seen him in shorts and everything else. 658 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: But I he was standing next to Keishawn Johnson Hopkins, 659 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 1: Hopkins had his shirt off, and then you look at 660 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: AJ Green, I'm like, he's bigger than Hopkins, a little 661 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: bit taller, longer legs, and then you look at Keishawn Johnson, 662 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: who's you know, he's got good sized himself. So it 663 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: was impressive just the size at that wide receiver positions 664 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: we look at, you know, Christian Kirk and Larry always 665 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: had good size, and Hopkins obviously he can handle his own, 666 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: but I like the size they have there and on 667 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: those fifty fifty balls. It is going to be fun 668 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: to watch. And of course we'll be with you every 669 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: step of the way here on Cardinals Cover two presented 670 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: by Hunday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As right, 671 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals training Camp powered by Cox here at State Farm 672 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Stadium is officially underway as we get closer and closer 673 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: to the regular season. All right, I'm ja what you 674 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: mentioned the pads. They don't come on until next week, 675 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: and just a couple of more practices without the pads, 676 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and I know it's it's it's no different really than 677 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: OTAs and mandatory mini camp. You're not going to see 678 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: anything different. But when those pads come on next week. 679 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Next Tuesday is the first padded practice, then all of 680 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, I think we'll really get to see the 681 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: new additions and then some of those familiar faces just 682 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: how much improvement? How much did they work in the 683 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, and and normally the Cardinals will install, 684 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, their offense in the offices, and then when 685 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: you get to camp, you reinstall and then you know, 686 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure the coaches already starting to look ahead a 687 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: little bit when it comes to the Titans, or at 688 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: least their first four games. You know, over the next 689 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: couple of days, we're guys lining up, you know, who's 690 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: getting reps at certain positions and when it comes to 691 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: the depth chair because you know, I'm curious about this 692 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: rookie class. I just don't think they're all gonna make it. 693 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: But you know, the new additions. I want to see 694 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, how he practices everything you hear. He practices 695 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: it like he plays and that's a good thing, right 696 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: And then you want to see some of these younger 697 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: guys like Marco Wilson and Tay Gowen and you know, 698 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: Michael Manette. Again, it's going to be tough for the 699 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: back end of the rookie class to make the roster 700 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: at least and only going to be on the practice squad. 701 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: But it's just more, you know, what kind of temple 702 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: they have, you know, is Kyler Murray? You know they 703 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: run in the more different stuff when when it comes 704 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: to installed. But right now you're just laying the groundwork. 705 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: So it's more where guys are lining up and what 706 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: kind of temple they're using in practice. Quick roster update. 707 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: The team waive defensive lineman Ryan b Via an injury 708 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: waiver according to the league's official transaction page, so now 709 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 1: eight players in that d line room and safety Sean 710 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Williams placed on the active non football injury list. He 711 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: can practice once he's ready. It's one of those designations 712 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: didn't pass his physical, so he'll be ready, hopefully sooner 713 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: rather than the and maybe even by the time you 714 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast here as we come to you 715 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: from Cardinal's training camp powered by Cox. But there is 716 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of roster movements even as 717 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,959 Speaker 1: we get into here during the course of training camp, 718 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: because we know gentlemanners. Steve Common, he's always looking on 719 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: the back end, where can I get better at certain positions. Yeah, 720 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of you know, you're looking at 721 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: the last couple of guys at each position. I still 722 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: anticipate maybe they're waiting for the preseason. At another tight end, 723 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: they got some young guys who have some upside, but 724 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: they're very raw after Max Williams and Derrell Daniels. So yeah, 725 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 1: you're always looking to get better. I mean they added 726 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: a corner the other day. When you start looking at 727 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, just flooding the position. You know, when you 728 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: look at the wide the cornerback position. Now they do 729 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: have some experience back there. Darryl Worley is the cornerback, 730 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: a five year NFL veteran six one, two hundred and 731 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: ten pounds, eleven cornerbacks now in that room. Well, and 732 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: then you got that cars Deniard and you're throwing Butler 733 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: and Robert Alford and Byra Murphy. All of a sudden, 734 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: you're not relying on rookies, even though I think Marcol 735 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: Wilson couldn't be a special teams guy. We'll see what 736 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: happens at every single position, and of course we'll have 737 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: it for you right here on Cardinals cover two presented 738 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: by Hounday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. And on 739 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 740 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: of Cardinals cover two presented by Hounday, proud partner of 741 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 742 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: producer Jim Almahundro for Mike Jareckie. 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