1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the podcast. As the Texans 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: embark on a journey to New York. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: It's really New Jersey. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: The Jets play at the Meadowlands, which is right across 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: the Hudson River from Manhattan. Now you have to go 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: there to understand that they get a lot of grief 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: for playing in New Jersey, even though it's very close 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: to the city of New York. Doesn't matter, they're going 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: to get that grief. They used to play at Chase 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Stadium back in the day, and that was in Queens 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: where City Field is. Is that what they're still calling 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: it for the New York Mets. But Shase Stadium was there, 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: and Shase Stadium was known for Hey, the Oilers played there, 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: of course, but the Jets played there. The Mets played there, 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: the Beatles played a huge concert there. There's a lot 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: of history there and it just feels weird for the Jets. 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: It's never felt right being in New Jersey. Obviously, they 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: haven't been to a Super Bowl since nineteen sixty nine. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: They have not been to the playoffs since twenty ten 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: and done damage. Man, they went to back to back 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: AFC Championship games. Once upon a time, the Texans opened 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: the season and own nine against the Jets. Rookie quarterback 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez defeated the Texans that day, with the help 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: of his teammates, of course, but I remember him making 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: throw after throw and it was really painful. That actually 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: turned out to be a good season for the Texans, 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: their first ever winning campaign at nine and seven. But 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: there have been other times with the Jets that I'd 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: like to forget about, like the twenty ten visit to 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: the Metalalands when they torched the Texans in the final 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: minutes to pull out a victory. But there was a 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: happy trip to the Metallands to play the Jets in 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when they knocked off Sam Darnold and won 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve Monday Night football. Except for the unhappiness 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: of losing Brian Cushing that night, he wasn't playing too 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: far from where he played his high school ball at 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Bergen Catholic in New Jersey. Anyway, this latest version of 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans is hot. 39 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: They are seven and five. 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost to the Jacksonville Jags a week and 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: a half ago, well now it's almost two weeks ago, 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: but they rebounded with a beautiful victory over a hot 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos team that had won five straight. Now, the 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: Jets are anything but hop but they are dangerous good defense. 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: You might be playing in the rain a lot to 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: look out for. So let's catch up with Bob. With Shuzen, 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: who's been doing Jets games as long as I've been 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: doing Texans games. And Bob also does NHL hockey on ESPN. 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: You've heard his voice on ESPN a billion times doing 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of college football stuff, the NHL, whatever else 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: he can get his hands on. 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: He's a b C guy. 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I thought he went to Fordham, but he actually went 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: to Boston College. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. What 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: is important is he is the voice of the Jets 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: and knows a lot about them. So let's get to 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: our conversation with Bob. Bob, it's great to have you on, 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: and I know it's a busy time of year for you. 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: We really appreciate the visit. So tell me what is 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: your general assessment, your general take on what has happened 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: to thee just this year. Everyone talks about Aaron Rodgers 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and there's so much more going on. What do you 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: think of the way the twenty twenty three campaign has transpired. 64 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers got hurt, the period stopped. That's it. So, 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean I would love to say that. And look, 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: there is more they're you know, their wide receivers have underperformed, 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: the offensive line has been decimated by injuries. You know, 68 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: there's definitely other reasons as to why they're having a 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: tough time. But Aaron Rodgers got hurt, and it was 70 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: all began with Aaron Rodgers and ended with Aaron Rodgers. 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: That's he makes you right when you're wrong. And so 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: that's it. That's the you know, basically their house burned 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: to the ground four plays into their season, and that, 74 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: you know, kind of the end of the story. 75 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: You know. 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but that really is true. 77 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Well, still competitive in a lot of games, and I 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of that has to do with the deep. 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: So tell me about the defense, Bob, and how good 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: they can be. I know you see some high point 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: totals as well, but a lot of that is because 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: the offense is not able to carry its share of 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: the load, I would think, But what do you think 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: of the Jets defense? 85 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: Overall? 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: The defense has done everything that could be reasonably asked 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: of it to try to keep them in games as 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: best they can. I mean, like the defense in certain 89 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: games obviously, when you're playing against you know, the Bills 90 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: and the Dolphins and you know, teams that can score 91 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: in bunches, at some point they're going to wilt because 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: they just see the offense not putting any points up. 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: It's just human nature that you know, you can't like, 94 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: you can't play mistake free football, you know, every possession 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: of every game, and that's basically what they're asked to do. 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: So like this past weekend a perfect example. I mean, 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: you know, they were down anywhere from to five points 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: or whatever for basically the entire game. The defense got 99 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: stop after stop after stop after stop, and the offense 100 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: can't score a touchdown. Anybody who's actually watched them play 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: would say that they have a top five defense in 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: the NFL. And unfortunately, it looks like they're gonna end 103 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: up potentially in the top five of the draft with 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: the top five defense in the NFL, because you know, 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: the offense just can't score points. 106 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Bob was Shoes and voice of the Jets, joining us 107 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. We talk about CJ. Mosley about Williams, 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: about the other Williams, about a lot of the players 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: on the Jets, d Jermaine Johnson, But give me a 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: few guys who are performing well in your opinion, guys 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: that Texans fans need to watch out for CJ. 112 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: Stroud and company come to town. 113 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously CJ is gonna try and throw 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: the ball right, like even with without Tank Dell, that's 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: still the strength of your team is they are going 116 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: to try and make chunk plays happen through the air, 117 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: and that is probably playing to the Jets' strength because 118 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: Jets have with Ermaine Johnson, Bright Huff, a couple of 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: guys you didn't mention that are really really good pass rushers, 120 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: DJ Reid and Sauce Gardner, really good corners, you know, 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: like they they stay in games at forcing you to 122 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: throw the pass, rush hits the quarterback, and the defense 123 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: takes the ball away that they beat the Eagles. The 124 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: Eagles have won two losses now. They lost the arguably 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: the best team in football yesterday and they lost to 126 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: the Jets. While everybody of course shakes their head, have 127 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: they possibly lose to the Jets? Well, because the Jets 128 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: dominated the game on defense and took the ball away 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: four times. And they have that capability. So right now, 130 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: even though the offense is struggling as as badly as 131 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: you can struggle, like one of these teams that's in 132 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: a playoff race down the stretch here that the Jets play, 133 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: Jets will probably beat them because they're you know, odds 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: are they'll have one more game where the defense just 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 3: hits the quarterback and knocks the ball out and scoops 136 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: and scores or you know, does something to flip the 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: game because they're that good. And that's what they did 138 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: in the Eagles. I mean again the Eagle game. They 139 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: scored one touchdown and the Eagles let them score the 140 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: touchdown that they scored, so like their offense didn't produce 141 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: a touchdown without the Eagles laying down and letting them 142 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: in the end zone. And yet they won the game 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: against a team that might go to the super Bowl 144 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: because their defense has that capability. So if you're a 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: Texans fan, that's what you have to worry about, or 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: that's what you have to guard against, is not letting 147 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: the Jet defense beat you. 148 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Bob one more on the quarterback situation now, and as 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: we record this it's still in flux. I guess it's 150 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: always in flux this season for the New York Jets. 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: But what have you seen from Zach Wilson that could 152 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: give him some hope for the future here? As it's 153 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: not like he's an older quarterback. He's in year three, 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: still trying to find his way. What have you seen 155 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: from him that can be built upon in his career? 156 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the thing that he brings is physical 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: traits that can't be taught right, Like, he can make pros. 158 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: He can do things with his legs physically that maybe 159 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: three or four or five other quarterbacks in the league 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: can do. Like a top five or top six quarterback 161 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: like athletically like Tua Tongua Bai Looa couldn't dream of 162 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: throwing the ball off platform with the velocity of Zach Wilson. Obviously, 163 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: a massive amount more goes into playing quarterback than just 164 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: being physically gifted as his proof of what the quarterback 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: like Tua does And the fact that Zach has been 166 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 3: benched because just can't score touchdowns. So like the you're 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: gonna get an offensive coordinator or a head coach out 168 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: there where their ego is gonna be oh well, I mean, 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: look at the highlights of this kid when he makes 170 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: a play. I could coach that, like, let me have that, 171 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: let me try and fix some Now, do I think 172 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: that you know there's a coach or at office cordinator 173 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: out there that can do that for Zach's sake, I 174 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: hope so. I would love to see him succeed. I 175 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: think he needs to go to a team that has 176 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: a really good offensive line so he can stand back 177 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: there and do the thing that he has a hard 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: time with, and that is process and read and see. 179 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: But if you are able to put a structure around 180 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: him that supports him in that way, I mean he 181 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: physically he can do things that very very few guys 182 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: can do. And you know, the talent is is like tempting. 183 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: I mean that you know that the talent is intriguing 184 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: when there will be times like if you're his agent 185 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: and you went back and found the ten best plays 186 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: this season that he's made and put up a little 187 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: ten play highlight cut up and show that. You know, 188 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: if there was a proverbial coach from Mars that had 189 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: never seen him play, that coach will go whoa and 190 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: give me this guy. I can make this work. This guy, 191 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: look at the throes he can make. But the problem, 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: obviously is there's so much more that goes into the 193 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: mental side of playing that position, and that's where he 194 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: just needs to be able to develop. 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Bob, with hues enjoining us on Texan's radio voice of 196 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: the New York Jets AFC East, question, more surprising to 197 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: you the Bills being six and six or the Patriots 198 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: being two and ten? 199 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: Bob, to me, the Bills. I think when we all 200 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: looked at the Patriots going into this season, the only 201 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: reason that anyone thought they were going to be anything 202 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: other than a really bad team was well, it's Bill Belichick, 203 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,119 Speaker 3: right Like Bill Belichick is the coach, and he's a genius, 204 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: and he just won't be able to have a team 205 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: be this bat. He'll figure out a way, and ultimately 206 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 3: it's really the talent of your team that determines that's 207 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: our failure of your team. I mean, look, coaching is 208 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: very important, Madically, play calling, all of that is very important. 209 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: But funny people are calling for Joe Douglas and Robert 210 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: Sala's heads here in New York left and right in 211 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: the media. All of those same people acknowledge that if 212 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers had never gotten hurt, the Jets would probably 213 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: be you know, eight and four or nine and three 214 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 3: because of how well the defense plays and Aaron Rodgers 215 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: be able to score, you know, twenty one to twenty 216 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: four points a game. So it just goes to show you, 217 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: like how little people actually understand or believe. It has 218 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 3: to do with coaching, because if you're out of one 219 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: side of your mouth saying fire the Jets head coach 220 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: and fire the general manager because of the record and 221 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: how bad it's been this year. But at the same time, 222 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: we think they'd maybe be in first place if Aaron 223 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: Rodgers had gotten hurt. So he's a good general manager 224 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: and a good coach if the quarterback's healthy, But all 225 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it's a bad general manager and a 226 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: bad coach because the quarterback got hurt. So to me, 227 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: it's it's the talent of your team. And anybody that 228 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: looked at that Patriot roster and thought they were going 229 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 3: to be anything better than you know, a four or 230 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: five six win team, I don't know what they were 231 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: looking at. That's what I thought they would be. I 232 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: thought they were clearly a last place team talent wise 233 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: in the division. And I mean they mentioned their quarterback. 234 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: Their quarterback didn't get hurt, right, the Jets at least 235 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: lost their quarterback. Their season is falling, falling a mart 236 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: because Aaron Rodgers got hurt at Hellent didn't get hurt. 237 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: He's just not played well. 238 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: Bob, ESPN NHL hockey. I know, you gotta love it. 239 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: How much do you love it? And you went to BC? 240 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Were you calling hockey on the student station at BC 241 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: when you were there? And obviously college hockey in Boston 242 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: is huge. How do you enjoy doing the NHL on 243 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: ESPN share with us some hockey play by play stuff, 244 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: and how much you it's a love for you? 245 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a blast. 246 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: You know. 247 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 3: I was a you know, college hockey broadcaster, like we 248 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: all were, right, you'd go to your college radio station, 249 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: and you know, when I was in college, I watched 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: NHL level players in college. I mean, if you're calling 251 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: games from DC or Boston University or Maine or Providence 252 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: from those those schools have NHL players on their roster, 253 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: so you're basically calling like minor league NHL hockey at 254 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: that level. And I've I called games that involved first 255 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: round draft choices and Olympians. So I've always loved the sport. 256 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: And when I was working for Madison Square Garden, I 257 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: was like the backup guy for the Rangers as well, 258 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: so I would call twenty to twenty five Rangers games 259 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: the year. And then when ESPN hired me full time, 260 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: it was kind of like ships passing in the night. 261 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: I came to ESPN as the television rights basically went 262 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: from ESPN to NBC, and now I obviously would have 263 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: always hoped that hockey could be a part of what 264 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: I would have done there. Now they brought it back, 265 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: you know, after repping a ESPN. But seventeen or eighteen years, 266 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: we were lucky enough to be, you know, reunited with 267 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: the NHL, and so it is. Yeah, it's a blast, 268 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: and you know, it's a fantastic league. I'm hoping at 269 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: some point when the NHL expands, that Houston gets another 270 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: shot at it, because that's what we keep hearing that. 271 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: You know, if the NHL a couple of more teams 272 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: that on the short list of cities that could be 273 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: in the mix to get an expansion team, the NHL 274 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: might reappear in Houston, and that would be fun. 275 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: What's been the closest call you've had between calling a 276 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Jets game and some of your ESPN duties. 277 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, Yeah, I've had a couple, you know, like 278 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: when you get the We had one two years ago 279 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: as a good example. I don't know if you've had 280 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: to like dodge bullets on Saturdays to get to wherever 281 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: the Technics are on Sunday. I had a game at Ole, 282 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: miss couple of years ago, like a three thirty or no, 283 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: i'm sorry, noon game from New three thirty game basically, 284 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: but it was a noon start. We had to high 285 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: tail it to Memphis right after the game was over 286 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: and make a flight from Memphis to Atlanta and Atlanta 287 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: to wherever I was going for the Jets and day. 288 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: And of course it's like early October in Memphis and 289 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: there's a lightning delay. I was sitting there with like 290 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: a two hour lightning delay in Memphis or in Oxford, Mississippi, 291 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: scrambling at halftime on our phones to try and figure 292 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: out what to do, and all of a sudden, all 293 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: the you know, collectively myself, my spot, my stats guy, 294 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: and dan Orlabski, who I was working with at the time, 295 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: we all realized that we're not making the flight out 296 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: of Memphis, but all of us were on the same 297 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: flight to go to Atlanta to then get on flights 298 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: from Atlanta and scatter to wherever we were all going. 299 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: Everyone had flights that probably were in the you know, 300 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: ten ten thirty range out of Atlanta. Dan was like, well, 301 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: if we just drive really fast to Atlanta, we might 302 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: be able to make our second flights that way. And 303 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: so we called up and got someone from Disney Corporate 304 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: Travel on the phone and said, here's what we need. 305 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: Everybody needs. The flight out of Memphis canceled, but don't 306 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: cancel the flights out of Atlanta. And that rental car 307 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: that you have returned to Memphis, that rental car is 308 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: now returned to Atlanta. And we got into a car 309 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: after the game was over, and four hundred and fifty 310 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: miles later we were in the Atlanta airport running to 311 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: make our flights and we got out. You know, you 312 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: always figure out a way, it's just but it. 313 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: Can be diceing absolutely well. My broadcast partner Andre Wre 314 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: has had a few close calls, never missed one though, 315 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: so that's good. Hey Bob, thanks so much. For the 316 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: time and we look forward to visiting with you on Sunday. 317 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: In the booth, there's. 318 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Bob with Shoes in voice of the New York Jets. 319 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: And now some bonus action here with the Texans assistant coach. 320 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: We love this Guyino Vasso, who's from Philly and actually 321 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with the Eagles as an assistant coach, 322 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: and he's here coaching cornerbacks. He's been with the organization 323 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: now for three years. So it's great to have Dino 324 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: aboard and going to New York brings up a lot 325 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: of Philly versus New York stuff, so we get into 326 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: that with him here in this conversation. 327 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: How's it going, coach, Great, happy to be here. 328 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you all right, before we 329 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: get into anything, and we have a lot to talk about. 330 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: I noticed this drill you guys run at practice where 331 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the dbs are going for a pick A would be 332 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: pick This is a simulation and you throw these frisbee 333 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: things up in the air to sort of distract them. 334 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: Now this is during open period, so I'm not revealing 335 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: any secrets here. 336 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: And there are those little mini cones with the hole 337 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: in them that a lot. 338 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: Of people use in the youth leagues too, But they 339 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: look like frisbees when you throw them up in the air, 340 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: So why do you do that to give them another visual? 341 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: You're trying to distract them so they come down with 342 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: the pick. 343 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: It's just hard to simulate what they would actually get 344 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: in a game. And I think our guys do a 345 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: pretty good job of not panicking when the ball's in 346 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: the air, so I try to make them panic as 347 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: much as they possibly can. 348 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: And yeah, they just. 349 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: Throw those diss up there just for distraction. Maybe they 350 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: lose the ball for a second and have to find 351 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: it late, all. 352 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 6: Right, coach, I can't remember the last time we talked 353 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 6: to you, but I know it was a few weeks ago. 354 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 6: Since then, every single game has come down to the 355 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 6: final minute, so there have been a few of them 356 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 6: where the defense has been on the field at the 357 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: very end. 358 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: How do you stay calm throing all through those situations. 359 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 6: Including the game against Denver that felt like almost everybody 360 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 6: have talked to you said that was the most stressful one, 361 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 6: maybe because it was not quite Russell proof at the end. 362 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 5: As we talked about how. 363 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 6: Are your nerves the other day and how did your 364 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 6: guys really come through. 365 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 5: How did you kind of make that all work against 366 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: Denver particular? 367 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: I mean, we continuously asked our guys to be poised 368 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: in the moment. So as a coach, you got to 369 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: be the same way. You can't panic when things go wrong. 370 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: You got to keep your cool, because that's the same 371 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: things we ask of our players when they're out there 372 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: in the game. 373 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: What are you seeing from Derek Stingley Chun You're right now, 374 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: he's the AFC Defense Player of the Week. He looks tremendous, 375 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: had the two picks in the Denver game, and he's 376 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: really come around strong. 377 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 4: Coach confidence is what I see. And we've talked about 378 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: this before. It's just that's one thing that's imperative to 379 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: play disposition, and it's one thing that I can't coach 380 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 4: and you can't teach it and no one can. And 381 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: it's something that he has right now and he's trending 382 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: in the right direction. 383 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 5: As a coach. 384 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: One of the things though, is how do you not 385 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: that he has confidence, but how do you make sure 386 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 6: that he keeps his confidence when. 387 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: Things get tough? 388 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 6: You know, he gets beat on one what's kind of 389 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 6: what's kind of your way with the defensive backs. 390 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: When something like that happens. 391 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 6: You always talk about, well, next play, you got to 392 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 6: think about the next play. Is it that simple to say, hey, 393 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 6: next play you get it back? How do you kind 394 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 6: of build that confidence coach? 395 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just talking about being a goldfish and have 396 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: a short memory. Yeah, And he's pretty good that way. 397 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: It's pretty even keel. He gives up a play and 398 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 4: doesn't panic. He makes a play and he doesn't get 399 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 4: super excited, and I think that's the temperament that you 400 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: want out there. 401 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: So Desmond King comes back and he's making plays for you. 402 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: What is he bringing him to the table this time around? 403 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: Because well, he's the same des King and that's a 404 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: good thing. But he's new again. There's just something about 405 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: it as you add him back into the mix. 406 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: Tell us about him, Yeah, the same things he's always done. 407 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: He's he's tough, he's just a good instinctive football player 408 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: and he plays the game the right way. We're excited 409 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: to have him. We know he's versatile. He can play 410 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: in multiple spots. He's playing at nickel for us right now. 411 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 4: He obviously can move around and play other spots in 412 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: the secondary. So just excited to have Dez back in 413 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: the ability. 414 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 6: We are getting your secondary back, kind of having Stingly 415 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 6: back with Nelson. Those are the two corners you expected 416 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 6: to have with Steven. What have you seen from him? 417 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 6: It feels like just the more he plays, the more 418 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 6: steady he is. But it feels like more teams and 419 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 6: I want to mess with him. He's had a couple 420 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 6: of big plays at the end of games. What do 421 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 6: you see from Steven this year and in the two 422 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 6: years that you've seen him? 423 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, he's he's a consistent player and just 424 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: being around him for a long time now, he's a 425 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: consist in person. He has a routine and he sticks 426 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: to it. And we've talked about this before. He doesn't 427 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: like giving up completions that could be in a walk through, 428 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: he could be in practice. Uh, and that transitions to 429 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: the game. He's sticky in coverage literally all the time. 430 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: And that shows up. And that's why guys really aren't 431 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: thrown at him right now. 432 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 5: Has he invited you out to help him on the 433 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 5: farm yet? 434 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 4: We're gonna head out there. My wife and I are 435 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 4: out there. We have we haven't yet, Yeah, we will. 436 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: It's nice I love it cool Didel Vasso, Texans cornerbacks 437 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: coach joining us. When you play the Jets, you got 438 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson at quarterback. He's got a big arm. I 439 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: know the Jets have struggled on offense, but he can 440 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: hit the big one on you get lulled and all 441 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, oh my gosh, going over the top. 442 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: What are some of the things to watch out for 443 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: in this game that the metal lands coming up? 444 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've said this since his kid's been in the league. 445 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 4: He does not lack talent. He's got a live arm, 446 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: he's accurate, he can make he can make every throw. 447 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: So that doesn't scare you as a defense. You just understand. 448 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 4: You understand his playmaking ability. 449 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 7: Uh. 450 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: And he got some playmakers that he can throw the 451 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: ball up to. 452 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 5: And one of one of those back is Garrett Wilson 453 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 5: out on the outside. 454 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously names that you might recognize, ala Zard, Randall, Cobb, 455 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: those kind of guys, but it's Wilson that really has 456 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 6: stood out. Why is why is it that? Why is 457 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 6: I mean's first round pick's rookie year last year? But 458 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 6: in your eyes and what you guys have to handle 459 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 6: you know what what makes him so special? 460 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: Obviously the athletic ability, size, speed ball skills, all the 461 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: things that we talk about all the time, and then 462 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: just route running precision. He's just a good all around player, 463 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: doesn't have a limited rout tree. He can win on 464 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: the inside, can win on the outside, I can win 465 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: in the intermediate game, and then win in the deep 466 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: part of the field. He's just a really complete player. 467 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 6: Have you knocked on a certain quarterbacks door to maybe 468 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 6: get a few more things about him? 469 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: Having played with the mint Ohio State. 470 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure the guys are talking talking to see 471 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: a little bit right. 472 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Very nice ten al Vasso joining us. Okay, you're from Philadelphia, sir? 473 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: Do we make too big a deal out of cheese steaks? 474 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: Is that really the way to go? Or is there 475 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: another food? Or is should Philly be known for something 476 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: else in addition to or instead of cheese steaks. 477 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: I love cheesteaks, and I would eat them nowhere else 478 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: other than Philly, don't. I don't get a cheese steak 479 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: outside the Northeast. Maybe if I'm in Jersey or New York, 480 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 4: I'll get one. But I love food in Houston, but 481 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 4: I may not be getting cheese steak from Houston. 482 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 5: No understood, understood. 483 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 6: Do you have a particular place in Philly, like that's 484 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 6: your spot or is it? 485 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 5: Hey, i'm driving on the city, I'm near this, I'll 486 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: go here. Do you have like this particular spot or 487 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 5: you just where I am is. 488 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: Where I'm getting one? Yeah, my place is Phillips on 489 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: Passion av. It's a good spot. It's a good spot. 490 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 4: It's not the famous one like Gino's or Pats. Yeah, 491 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: but it's that in that area right there in South Philly. 492 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 6: Is that one of those places you're reluctant to talk 493 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 6: about because you don't want people to find out about it. 494 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: No, it's not that underground. People know about it spot. 495 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: We talked about this before being from Philly and being 496 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: able to be with the Eagles Super Bowl championship. Can 497 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: you talk about how the intensity ratchets up this time 498 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: of year? And obviously the playoffs are another dimension, but 499 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: what happens in December to these games that are being 500 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: played now, The magnitude feels so much different than September 501 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: and those are big too, But what do you think? 502 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny that the word that came into my head. 503 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: Before you said that was magnitude. The magnitude increases. But 504 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: as you get in these games, and the more you 505 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 4: coaching them, the more you play in them. I don't 506 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 4: think your process should change, right. You should attack this 507 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: game the same way you attack every game. So the 508 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: magnitude is a little bit different, the stakes might be 509 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: a little bit higher, but your process should not change. 510 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 4: It's stay the same. 511 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 6: As you play in these games, coach, because there's more, 512 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: like you said, more kind of at stake? Are you 513 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 6: trying to put more on the players played? Like from 514 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 6: a scheme standpoint, like, hey, we've been doing these things 515 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 6: all year, but hey, maybe there's a new wrinkle here, 516 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 6: a new wrinkle there. Or do you want to keep 517 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 6: them from having so much under play? You just want 518 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: them to play fast. 519 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 4: I think every week you have a few wrinkles, But 520 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you want to do 521 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 4: what your players do well, and I think Demiko and 522 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: Coach Burke have done a great job of doing that, 523 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: putting our players in a position to succeed. 524 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: All right, So one more about the Philly thing, because 525 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: being from Philly and then going up to New York, 526 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: what is that like for you? What do Philadelphians think 527 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: of New Yorkers? 528 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: Uh, there's a rivalry there. I can't say I despise 529 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 4: New York. I'd say all of my most of my 530 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: favorite rappers are from New York. So I got, I got, 531 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: I got a little love for New York City. But yeah, 532 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: there is a little sports rivalry there, obviously the Giants, 533 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 4: the Jets, the Eagles, the Knicks, the Sixers. But we're 534 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: closed for an hour and forty five minutes away, so 535 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: there's there's some similarities there. 536 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 6: I mean, okay, I'm gonna ask us showing my name 537 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 6: naivete Philly rappers. 538 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody goes, well, Will Smith is from Philly. 539 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: What I mean, whatether Philly rappers? You have to choose Trump. 540 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: The guy that most people would know now is Meek Mill. Yeah. 541 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 6: Okay, so when Meet Mill so in the Super Bowl 542 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 6: they played Meet Mill and the Eagles are coming out, 543 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: Like I was charged, I got goosebumps. 544 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 5: What's that like for Philly people? 545 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 6: For a Philly rapper to be leading them out in 546 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl place I had been in a while. 547 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 4: That was pretty cool. It was pretty cool moment for us. 548 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: And I think that song will forever be tied to 549 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: that team. So yeah, that's that's pretty special moment. 550 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: For Rocky Statue. Yay r nay, Yeah, love it. 551 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: I'm got somewhere I would go to. I mean I've 552 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: been there a million times. Yeah. If you're visiting the city, yeah, 553 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: go check it out. 554 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 555 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 6: So when you have friends that come visit you in 556 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 6: Philly or there with you in Philly, where you take 557 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 6: them where where's. 558 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: The what's the one spot or a couple spots they 559 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 5: want to go? 560 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so going back to cheese steaks like they want 561 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: to eat. Yeah, they most of people want to go 562 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: to Geno's or Pats and that may not I like, 563 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: those two spots may not be the first place I 564 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: would go. Yeah, but glitz, glamour, it's lit up, that's 565 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: where they want to go. So that that's where you 566 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: take them. 567 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool. Dane, thanks a lot for joining us. 568 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 569 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: More bonus time. Following our conversation with Dino Vasso, how 570 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: about Houston Methodist Minutes high ankle sprains. Trevor Lawrence has 571 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: one of these, and you know that we want to 572 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: know more about them, because every time you hear about 573 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. It sounds like it should be a 574 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: lot less of an injury than it is. It's kind 575 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: of like turf toe that's in the same category for me, 576 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: injuries that sound like they're not as bad as they 577 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: actually are. 578 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: Turf toe is very bad. High ankle sprains not good. 579 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: So let's catch up with Houston Methodist minutes get some 580 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: more information. Joining us today is doctor Alicia Robashow from 581 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: Houston Methodist. 582 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: How's it going today, doctor, It. 583 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 7: Is going great. We are excited to be here. 584 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, we want to talk about high ankle sprains, which 585 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: are not exciting, but they're mysterious. Doctor, so tell us 586 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: why it's not a cut and dry kind of thing 587 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: with a high ankle sprain. People hear ankle and they think, oh, 588 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: ankle sprain. But what is the difference between a high 589 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: ankle sprain and the regular variety. 590 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 7: So there are numerous ankles around the medial and the 591 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 7: lateral ankle, and you can sprain any of those by 592 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 7: twisting and turning your foot. But a higher ankle sprain 593 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 7: is going to be higher between the tibia and the fibula. 594 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 7: So if you kind of walk your hand up your 595 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 7: ankle about a hands with up that's going to be 596 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 7: where the ligaments are keeping those two bones together. Those 597 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 7: are really important ligaments, and when you have a high 598 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 7: ankle sprain, you can tear some of that sindsmotic ligament 599 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 7: and it can be a really bad injury. And it 600 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 7: isn't the normal turn your foot type of ankle change, 601 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 7: so it can be difficult to diagnose, it can be 602 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 7: painful for longer. Sometimes there's nerve damage, and sometimes it 603 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 7: can take a player out of their entire season, which 604 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 7: can be really devastating. 605 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: If it's ligaments. 606 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: Is surgery sometimes needed for a high ankle sprain or 607 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: a very bad one? 608 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: Is it called something else at that point? 609 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 7: No, it is. It's still called the high ankle sprain. 610 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 7: And we consider, you know, a surgical approach for any 611 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 7: of our ruptures of those ligaments down low or down high. 612 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 7: Usually we try and hit all of it conservatively without 613 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 7: surgery unless it just does not respond to therapy and 614 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: ice and conservative stuff. But you know, in a professional athlete, 615 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 7: a high ankle sprain, you know, usually they'll jump to 616 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 7: an MRI very quickly, look at all the ligaments very 617 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 7: intimately and determined do we have nerve damage. Do we 618 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 7: have swelling? What can we do to get this athlete 619 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 7: back on the field as quickly as possible. So surgery 620 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 7: is a possibility, but it's not a guarantee. 621 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: So I know for ankle sprains, a lot of flexibility 622 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: involved in warm ups, trying to get the ankle accustomed 623 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: to not necessarily being turned, but some of the torque 624 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: it's going to take throughout the course of an athletic contest. 625 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: I remember, even in high school soccer walking around on 626 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: the sides of our feet just to try to stretch 627 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: things out. Is there anything you can do to help 628 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: prevent high ankle sprains or is this just a sort 629 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: of freak injury if you will. 630 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 7: So, the biggest thing for ankles, whether it is a 631 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 7: regular ankle sprain media and lateral or a high ankle sprain, 632 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 7: the biggest thing is doing obviously the foot agility, being 633 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 7: able to go from left to right, front to back quickly, 634 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 7: but also the stretching. But the other big thing is balanced. 635 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 7: Most of our ankle injuries are when we are off balance. 636 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 7: It's not with a normal walking or running or a 637 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 7: forward plane motion. It's normally reaching to the side or 638 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 7: diving to the side or changing your weight bearing and 639 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 7: if the ankle is not used to that off balance 640 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 7: center of gravity, then the ankle turns. So the best 641 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 7: things that we option we talk to people about doing 642 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: is work on balance on one foot, going forward on 643 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 7: one foot, going to the left and to the right, 644 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 7: on one foot, going backwards on one foot, making sure 645 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 7: that your core stability can pull your body back up 646 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 7: and your foot is strong enough to handle your body 647 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 7: in different planes of motion. So balance work, working on 648 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 7: a bowsuit, bowl, working on a soft film, working on turf, 649 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 7: all of those different textures of ground, basketball courts will 650 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 7: challenge the ankle in different ways. So balance, flexibility, and 651 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 7: agility are all important. 652 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: That is great stuff as always, doctor, thanks so much 653 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: for the time. 654 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 7: Absolutely, y'all have a great day. 655 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: All right, there's your Saturday or whenever you listen to 656 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: this sampling of Texan's radio stuff as we get ready 657 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: for the New York Jets Sunday at noon live on 658 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six out of the Bowl one hundred point 659 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: three FM. And I always point this out. I got 660 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people tell me they do this, And 661 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: if you want to listen at home, your smart big 662 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: brother device, whether it's Alexa or the Google thing. I 663 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: don't even like to say the name Alexa because I'm 664 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: afraid she's listening and she's going to start, you know, 665 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: perking her ears up. You know what is going on there? 666 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Do those things hear everything you say at home and 667 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 1: take notes and download data and send it back to 668 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: the mother ship. 669 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: They probably do. They're big brother devices. 670 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, ask your big brother device, whatever it might be, 671 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: the Google or Amazon thing, and say I want to 672 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: listen to Sports Radio six ' ten in Houston and 673 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: listen to the call of the game and sync. 674 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: It up with your TV. 675 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: So the Alexa device or if you're listening on the 676 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Texans app will be trailing the TV call by a 677 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: little bit. So you just take that DVR remote, pause 678 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: it and try to sync it up, and then you'll 679 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: get the hometown radio call Andre ware John Harris on 680 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: the sideline and yours truly, along with your Texans images. 681 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: And it's fun to do that. So some of you 682 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: might now want to but if you do, go for it, 683 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of you are listening in the car, 684 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I hear countless stories about people driving back from who 685 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: knows where, hunting trips, soccer practice whatever listening in the car. 686 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: We always enjoy you listening no matter how you are listening, 687 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: and we look forward to checking in with you on 688 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: Sunday from the Meadowlands a showdown. 689 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: With the New York Jets. 690 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Have a great day everyone, and go Texans.