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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt we talked about the Warren

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Speaker 2: Sharp Oh yeah, yeah, schedule stuff that comes out. Well,

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Speaker 2: he has now come out with his rest factors. Yeah

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Speaker 2: for everybody. And the Steelers on the negative end of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the middle ish, but they didn't get hit

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Speaker 3: too hard.

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Speaker 2: They're not on the extremes.

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Speaker 3: There's some extremes and I haven't got a chance to

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Speaker 3: really study it. Just the Steelers I looked at and

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Speaker 3: the best and the worst basically. But we did talk

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Speaker 3: a little bit about it on my other podcast and

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Speaker 3: this is becoming my coast. I didn't really think of it,

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Speaker 3: but it's obviously true. This wasn't as big a deal

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Speaker 3: twenty years ago, fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all because everybody played on Sundays or

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Speaker 2: Monday night. There are no Thursday night games. There are

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Speaker 2: no standalone O the right.

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Speaker 3: Right, and you know overseas stuff and COVID and games

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday and Wednesday and Christmas and it was either

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving or that was really the only holiday that was different.

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Speaker 3: But now it's a bit of an issue, and some

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Speaker 3: of these teams are getting hit hard and really benefited

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Speaker 3: a lot too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lions at the top of the spectrum at

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Speaker 2: plus thirteen days almost two full weeks of additional rest

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Speaker 2: over their opponents, Miami at plus eleven. On the bottom

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Speaker 2: end of that, Vegas at minus nineteen.

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Speaker 3: It's huge and you're looking at I'm gonna pull it

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Speaker 3: up here in a second. There's I think the Lions

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Speaker 3: only have one game that they have a negative rest situation.

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Speaker 3: It's only one day, you know, I mean one time

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Speaker 3: the whole year. Maybe I should tell people what this

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Speaker 3: has meant pre Like, if you play on Monday and

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Speaker 3: I play Sunday both week two and we meet in

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Speaker 3: week three, I get a one day rest advantage, right,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Or if it's a week

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Speaker 3: it's you know, obviously well.

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Speaker 2: And a big part of this is built in from

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Speaker 2: the bys, which again goes back, no, there used to

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Speaker 2: be no buys, not too right, right, So for example,

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Speaker 2: the Saints this year play three teams coming off of

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Speaker 2: bye right hit hard, so that so they're minus fourteen.

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Speaker 2: They only play themselves one team. Everybody has a game

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Speaker 2: where they play off the buy unless you're playing somebody

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Speaker 3: Right, So they have one that they're plus seven, but

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Speaker 3: they have three that they're minus seven. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: like that's brutal.

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Speaker 2: I did think about that little quirk of the Steelers schedule.

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Speaker 2: For example, So the Browns Steelers play Minnesota in week

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Speaker 2: four in Ireland. The Browns play the Vikings the following

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Speaker 2: week in London. Okay, the Steelers have their buy that week,

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Speaker 2: correct the steel The Browns then come back and play

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Speaker 2: the Steelers in week six. They don't get the buy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that's a great time to play Cleveland too, you know.

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Speaker 3: As if you want to need that. Ye yeah, but

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Speaker 3: you pick up seven days right just in that game,

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Speaker 3: and they're coming from overseas. But it shocks me that

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Speaker 3: a couple of these teams, you know, like New Orleans

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Speaker 3: or Vegas. I'm sorry, there's only one time they have

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Speaker 3: a rest advantage. It's just one day, you know. A

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Speaker 3: couple of these only happened once or twice. Again, the

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Speaker 3: Lions only have a disadvantage once through the whole course

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Speaker 3: of the year. You know, the teams at the top

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Speaker 3: here are the Lions, Miami, the Rams, the Niners, who

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Speaker 3: already had the easiest schedule in the league before all this.

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Speaker 3: Seattle's near the top, and then there's three at the

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Speaker 3: bottom that are way different than everybody else. And that's

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Vegas, New Orleans, who you referenced in

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Speaker 3: Washington at minus thirteen. That's a lot over the course

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Speaker 3: of the year. And you know, another team that stood

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Speaker 3: out to me was one rate in the middle was Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: They're plus one, but basically it's it's like it's like

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Speaker 3: nothing because there's two games that they're plus one and

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Speaker 3: almost playing on equal rest, you know, where some of

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Speaker 3: these teams have a lot of games. That was the

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Speaker 3: other thing that stood out to me too, is how

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Speaker 3: having a rest advantage. It's a ton, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: it's I don't think the league cares.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't and I don't know that there's any way

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Speaker 2: Right that's the big thing is that there's you just

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Speaker 3: Doesn't even attribute for like a Sunday night game. If

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Speaker 3: that's different than planet one. Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, for example, when the Steelers go to Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles right to play the Chargers, that counts as a

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Speaker 2: Sunday game, but it's really a but it's another disadvantage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not like playing it one two weeks in

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Speaker 3: a row, not even close. But there's a ton of

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Speaker 3: games where one team has a rest advantage and not.

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Speaker 3: It's not always just one game or one day.

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Speaker 2: And for the the teams that don't play Monday night

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Speaker 2: game or I should say Thursday night games they're going

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Speaker 2: to have, they should be on the upper end of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking here. The Tennessee Titans over are not.

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Speaker 3: Right, okays.

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Speaker 2: The Saints are one of the things, right, Like, how

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Speaker 2: do how does that work out? I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Saints obviously, as you mentioned that

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Speaker 3: three times they're playing the team off a bye, which

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Speaker 3: is a little unfair. But they do get one where

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Speaker 3: they're coming off a bye.

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Speaker 2: But that puts you at minus twenty one, right or

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Speaker 2: minus fourteen before you even start the factor in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you would think the Thursday night

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Speaker 3: teams would be more affected because there's a lot of plus.

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Speaker 2: Well they do it with the way they do it,

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Speaker 2: like Dallas is plus five. Dallas plays four Thursday Night games,

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Speaker 2: but one's the opener.

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Speaker 3: Which doesn't count, and two are back to back. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and their opponent is the Lirions on one of them,

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Speaker 3: who's at the top of the list, and they that's

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Speaker 3: an equal. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think because those two teams choose to play

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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving, that's the traditional game, I don't think they

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Speaker 3: I don't either, And the Dallas always does every year.

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Speaker 3: They always play their Thursday before Thanksgiving or Thursday after.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know what makes them so special or

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Speaker 3: six teams playing Thursday, why should they get the difference.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that. But people are probably interested in

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Speaker 3: and they don't, so they're minus seven in one game.

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Speaker 3: They're minus three in two games, which will be a

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Speaker 3: team coming off a Thursday Yeah, they're minus one on

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Speaker 2: The top of the list, and they're positive with one

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Speaker 3: And the bye week advantage over the Browns that we

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Speaker 3: talked about, Right, You wish it wasn't against the Browns.

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Speaker 3: You wish you could cash it in against somebody else,

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Speaker 3: But they're kind of at the part of.

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Speaker 2: Store to be against the Browns. Let it be for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be nine good point. So the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: minus four, which is near the bottom, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Near the bottom, but it's close to the middle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's nothing like Vegas, New Orleans or Washington,

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Speaker 3: who are frankly getting screwed pretty bad on that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's and minus seven, Buffalo's of minus seven, the Titans

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Speaker 2: are minus six, Carolina's minus five. Those are the teams

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Speaker 2: The teams that are on the plus side of this.

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Speaker 2: You get Detroit at plus thirteen, Miami at plus eleven,

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Speaker 3: Last year, they set the record for having the best

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Speaker 3: rest of the dage.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is plus five, the Chargers are plus five. The

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Speaker 2: Giants and then Eagles are both plus four, like the

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Speaker 2: Steelers are minus four.

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Speaker 3: So, as you mentioned, the Ravens have the best rest

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Speaker 3: advantage in the division since he's also plus three, Steelers

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Speaker 3: or minus seven.

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Speaker 2: In every one of Dallas's Thursday Night games, they get

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Speaker 2: the rest advantage over the team that they're playing against.

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Speaker 2: What was that, I'm sorry, Dallas has four Thursday night games? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: in every one of those games they get the rest

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Speaker 2: advantage over the team that they they're playing against.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, no, no, they played the Lions a week after.

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Speaker 2: Their plus three in four different situations.

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Speaker 3: Wow, okay, interesting, I wonder how does that work on them?

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Speaker 3: How can you be plus three if they're are they

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Speaker 3: a Christmas team or something? It's Christmas year. Yeah, they

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Speaker 3: must have a Christmas Monday thing or something.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they play and I did see something where

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Speaker 2: they play like six games in a row against teams

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Speaker 2: that won eleven games last year.

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Speaker 3: Really, but they have.

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Speaker 2: A pretty sizeable rest advantage over a lot of those teams.

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Speaker 3: I don't I think a rest advantage is huge. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, let alone, you know, the travel stuff or

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Speaker 3: on the road, those type of things. But I think

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Speaker 3: it's cool that Sharpe does this because I think it

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Speaker 3: adds up and it definitely is advantageous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see if it matters this year. We'll

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Speaker 2: see if Vegas is effected. Everybody's looking at Vegas. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're much improved this year. Well, they may be much

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Speaker 2: improved this year, but they have a rest advantage basically

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting stuff. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Browns have a rest advantage of one day

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Speaker 2: in three different situations.

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Speaker 3: Which is fine. Which is fine. You know you're playing

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Speaker 3: a team coming off a Monday night or whatever. It's

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Speaker 3: it's helpful, but it's not a time Yeah. And they

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Speaker 3: don't have any of those, then they're not They have

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Speaker 3: no night games, right yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: They have one standalone game, that being the game in

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Speaker 2: Minnesota against Minnesota in London.

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Speaker 3: In London, that's our only featured game. Okay, but no

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Speaker 3: I think it's a huge advantage. I mean a team

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Speaker 3: like Detroit that's or the Ravens last year, it's already

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Speaker 3: a really good team, you would think you have a

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Speaker 3: better chance of not sustaining as many injuries, definitely resting

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Speaker 3: up injuries or a player that's questionable. You know, I

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Speaker 3: get eight days to heel instead of seven.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's look at this from last year's perspective. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: last year, the team with the least amount of rest

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Speaker 3: I didn't scroll down yet to see some of the

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Speaker 3: other stuff he put together.

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Speaker 2: So that's why this matters. When a guy gets nicked

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Speaker 3: That matters. Yeah. Absolutely no. I think it's a huge advantage.

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Speaker 2: Then you gotta fly home. Yeah, it's a long trip.

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Speaker 2: Who are they playing US Eagles? No, they're playing the Chiefs. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: And we are back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 2: The league will have another owners meetings next weekeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: and next week. Yeah, the touch push proposal will be

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Speaker 2: talked about again. They made no tweaks to it though.

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Speaker 2: In what's going to be discovered, it's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 3: At the pass, you don't think there'll be any changes.

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Speaker 2: Because the way it was written initially, it's just banning

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Speaker 3: Can I? Is that illegal? Is there any pushing allowed

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Speaker 2: I don't expect that to.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it gets passed this year. But

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see him rewrite that is he just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is what the rule used to be. I

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's not even on the table. No, that

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Speaker 2: Maybe somebody next year comes up with a better I

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Speaker 2: just think it was a poorly written proposal.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You're thinking like it sounds like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're also going to talk about the reseeding of

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Speaker 2: based strictly on record.

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Speaker 3: But okay, okay, good.

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Speaker 2: If let's say, let's say Seattle plays Minnesota in the

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Speaker 3: In Minnesota doesn't win the division.

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Speaker 2: And Minnesota does a division. There a wild card team. Yeah, Seattle,

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Speaker 3: Well, how's that different than now? I mean, the division

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Speaker 2: Well, it's only if they have the same record.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so the Vikings had a better record even

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Speaker 2: What wouldn't matter now if that were the case, if

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Speaker 3: Gotcha? So that year that Seattle, what were they eight

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Speaker 2: They'd have been worth six seeds right right right, even

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Speaker 3: Even though they won the division. I don't love it.

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Speaker 3: I do find it interesting that it's Detroit proposing it,

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Speaker 2: I think the reason why the commissioner is kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, I hadn't thought about that angle of it. If

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Speaker 2: But in the way the way that this system would be,

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Speaker 2: So I guess that's the same thing for the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Mm happened with it?

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Speaker 2: They could have been four or five, six or seven

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Speaker 3: Yeah, moves ahead of them. Okay, because I originally when

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to play these six games every year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's probably a ton of examples, right, Interesting because

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Speaker 2: If they if Minnesota had beaten Detroit in that final

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Vikings would have been the one seed, the

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Speaker 3: but still where would the game be played at the

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Speaker 3: I don't know how basketball and hockey do it, should

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the Final Four, where it's just

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Speaker 3: You like receding.

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Speaker 2: I really don't care.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that doesn't change my life much, but it'd

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Speaker 3: card would get even harder.

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Speaker 2: Well, that year they went through the I think the

442
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: Bengals were the Well, the Bengals would have been what

443
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 2: the three seed. There were six teams, three plays top

444
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 2: they get the five play six. Yeah, they were the

445
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: they were the three seeds. Steelers were the six. Then

446
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: they played the top seed. They played the one seed,

447
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: culture number one. The Broncos were number two, So they

448
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: went through all those teams. Anyways, Okay, there particular beat

449
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: the three to two and one all in, but.

450
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Speaker 3: You would almost have to if you're the seven seed,

451
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: assuming winners win. Yeah, you know, but even if winners

452
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 3: don't win, you're playing the best team out. If you're

453
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 3: the seventh seed, you're gonna play the hardest team.

454
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna play the two seed. Then you're gonna play

455
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: the one seed if you win.

456
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: If you win, you're right and then whoever's left. But yeah, okay,

457
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 3: I guess it means more than now. Yeah, again, that

458
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 3: might promote someone. The Rams are a good example last year.

459
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 3: You know, like if there's a team that's we're gonna

460
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: be the four or the five, well, maybe I'm gonna

461
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: play my guys in Week eighteen because I don't want

462
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Speaker 3: to be the five, you know, like six or seven lose,

463
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: then we're gonna play the toughest teams. Yeah. I guess

464
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 3: that would promote more less resting, which is.

465
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Speaker 2: What they want. They don't want what they don't want

466
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: games to be meaningless exactly. That's which I get. I

467
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: just don't know if this is the way to do it.

468
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say, is that the best way to

469
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Speaker 3: do it? I don't know. It's one motivation at least.

470
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's something. They're also going to talk about

471
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Speaker 2: allowing NFL players to compete in the flag football at

472
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Speaker 2: the twenty eight, twenty eight or twenty twenty eight Olympics.

473
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Speaker 3: Okay, do you think many would Oh? I think those

474
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: I think so.

475
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would happen, I believe, right before training.

476
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: Camp injuries or scare the heck to scare the heck

477
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: out of you. Yeah, but other sports have them.

478
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 2: And let's be realistic about this, with the NFL and

479
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: flag football, how many guys would actually be able to compete.

480
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: None of your offense, you know, you don't play offensive

481
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: lineman or defensive lineman.

482
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: I wonder how big the rosters even are. Yeah, but

483
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: you have defensive backs. We're talking about.

484
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: Defensive backs, skill position and skill position players quarterback. Yeah, yeah,

485
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: and honestly, in some like you, if you watch flag

486
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: football games, they're way different than an NFL game.

487
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: Way different. I mean I haven't watched like a professional

488
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: flag game. I watch help right.

489
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of the flag football players

490
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 2: are these hundred and forty pound guys that are just shifty.

491
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Speaker 3: As no doubt, like Tyreek to the world would be

492
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Speaker 3: really good in it. Yeah.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys like that are fine. M and yeah, obviously

494
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: speed matters. But but there was a pass rush. I

495
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: mean we played we were the Maroon six. You know,

496
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: you dressed six dudes, and there was two linemen. You know,

497
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: you'd snap the ball and then if you fake the

498
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: handoff you could go in. Otherwise you had to count

499
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: the three one thousand loudly or whatever.

500
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 3: You know.

501
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: But a lot of the quarterbacks are used to just

502
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: standing in the pocket. I'm gonna stand here and you're

503
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: gonna have to get me on the ground. Yeah, if

504
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: I just got to run and grab your your flag,

505
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: it's a lot different, a lot.

506
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Speaker 3: Of different story. I wonder if it'ld be any pass

507
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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger.

508
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger would not be a great flag football player.

509
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray would. Yeah, I mean right, yeah, exactly.

510
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 2: Right as Ben was. Ben made his bones by standing

511
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: in the pocket and shaking guys off. Right, Well, they're

512
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: grabbing his flag. It doesn't do any good.

513
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't do any good. It's a totally different world.

514
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: And even some of the big receivers might not be

515
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Speaker 3: as great.

516
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: Which needn't be helpful to be six five well.

517
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, I mean a big, slow guy. I mean,

518
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: you know, get it tight ends are linebackers on the field.

519
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: Would you have one pass rusher, one pass blocker without

520
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 3: pads on? That could get violent? I mean he kids

521
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: violent with kids, you know, like obviously it's much different.

522
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 3: But like back then when my kids were young, the

523
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: dudes have played tackle. Not only were they better, but

524
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: they shed blocks hard. You know, there's no pads. I

525
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 3: mean the little kid comes out trying to block them,

526
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: and they just I don't know. I mean, I guess

527
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: that happens now, whether they're professional or not. I haven't

528
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Speaker 3: watched any professional flag or Olympic flag.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can remember my son. I think I think

530
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: my oldest son played flag football. Like one year he

531
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Speaker 2: had already played tackle football and he was running with

532
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Speaker 2: the ball and somebody came up to he probably to

533
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: get and he lowered his shoulder.

534
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Speaker 3: There's a fine line man, especially the blocking stuff. I

535
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Speaker 3: mean you get a big guard come rolling around and

536
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: just trampling kids. You could definite do that. Yeah, and

537
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: there's no helmet, there's no pads. But it won't be

538
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: for everybody. I mean again, if they're's an Olympic sport, now,

539
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some sort of violence or some sort

540
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: of rules against it too. It would apply to you know,

541
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Speaker 3: Quent and Nelson too.

542
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna come out and see the violence and hearing

543
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: in the system. These NFL players are going to be

544
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Speaker 2: repressed on.

545
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: The they are. I think they'd do it, though, Oh.

546
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Speaker 2: I know there're could be guys that do would do it. Yeah,

547
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: there'd be a lot of guys who think they can

548
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: do it. H I'm a really good NFL player. Yeah,

549
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily mean.

550
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Speaker 3: You'd be a great flag football player, but would like

551
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes, also have to play safety. Is there a

552
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: defense in an offense? I mean, like all our kids

553
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: played both ways. Of course, you know what I mean,

554
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: that was young, but well, I bet the owners say no.

555
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: And I know NBA does if it's me and I'm

556
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, my twenty million dollar cornerback wants to.

557
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: Do this and be like, no, right, we're not doing that.

558
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Sidney Crossey plays and expensive hockey players play too,

559
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: But doesn't mean the NFL is gonna be cool with it.

560
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, right before the season, right before the season.

561
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: I'd rather did it after we're spread. Yeah, you know,

562
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 3: but it's summer Olympics. Yeah, I would hate that. I mean,

563
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: if you lose somebody right now or even like.

564
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Speaker 2: Two weeks before training camp. Yeah, he tears his a

565
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: c L playing flag football. Yeah, I'm not going to

566
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: be happy about that.

567
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 3: Who is the running back edwards for the Patriots? They

568
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: had rookie It was a rookie game on the beach

569
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: on the beach or something, and his career basically ended.

570
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: And he was a really good rookie running back that

571
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: they were counting on. And that wasn't even like right

572
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: before the season.

573
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Speaker 2: And that's like the average NFL careers is now about

574
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: three seasons.

575
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: M H.

576
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: If I'm a player, I don't know it, get it?

577
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: You know, I want to go. It'd be cool to

578
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: do and and you know, compete in the Olympics, And

579
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: but do I want to risk my career for this.

580
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: Right or my season even you know, I mean there

581
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't be a lot of broken bones and collisions.

582
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: But you can tweak an ankle or knee or whatever

583
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: just easily.

584
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: You're not in pads. You know, you take your trip

585
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: and fall and fracture you're clasical.

586
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: Or something, you know, possibly, right, there's all kinds.

587
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: All kinds of bad stuff didn go that can happen.

588
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: NFL's king and the king of the camp hamstring, right, right,

589
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: even if I can't participate in training camp, not like

590
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 3: him out for the year, but I miss all camp.

591
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean DERMANI Dawson pulled his hamstring in the Pro

592
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: Bowl in that kind of ended his career.

593
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: It hung around. Yeah, yeah, that's I bet the owners say, no,

594
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: we're turf toe. Oh yeah, turf toe. Got Jack Lamber

595
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: Lambert right, right, there's plenty of injuries you could suffer.

596
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: The other thing is we were always worried about concussions.

597
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's real easy to smack head smack caads. Yeah, yeah,

598
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: I mean real easy like soccer. There's no protection at all.

599
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I I understand it. And again

600
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: it sounds cool and pay your kids play play football.

601
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: It's it's a great sport, and you know, it's a

602
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: it's a great way you know, to get kids.

603
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: Catching and running in that right, and a lot of

604
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: parents don't want to see pads on.

605
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Them and you know, and honestly, I mean, I mean,

606
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: there is some translation to the NFL game, No question

607
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: you reading shiftiness.

608
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: And had a route tree. Yeah, you know, I mean

609
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, right.

610
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: It's not all that different from seven on seven drills.

611
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: No, it's not that much different. Tackling is obviously way different.

612
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, there is some form of tackling at least.

613
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I want my star players

614
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: doing it right before training.

615
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: Can definitely don't. The more I think about it, I

616
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: don't want not one bit. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't excite

617
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: me at all. Now, like if Ben wants to play now,

618
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean, like after you retire, maybe it would be fun.

619
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: But you know, Jerry Rice out there, that's bad. Exam

620
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: somebody somebody recent you know what I mean, that's at

621
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Speaker 3: the end, and I could.

622
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: See guys doing like some guy that's twenty years old

623
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: and just is recently out of the league and I'm

624
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: not in camp with anybody. I'm gonna try to yeah, yeah, yeah,

625
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to do this.

626
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: That's great and try out and maybe you get it.

627
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, Let's say it's a I don't know, I'm

628
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: just trying to think of a guy off the top

629
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: of my head.

630
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean, even at Derek car type or something like that.

631
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Speaker 2: Or let's say it's somebody who's been out of the

632
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: game for a few years but still thinks like Eli

633
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: Rodgers is always trying to work his way back into

634
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: and let's say, you know, hey, I'm in shape, I'm

635
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: a good route runner, I'm shifting. Yeah, this would this

636
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: would be a great outlet for guys like that.

637
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: And I wonder is he let alone like Tyreek? Are

638
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 3: they way better than the guys that are competing now

639
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: in the Olympics.

640
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: They're probably better well that I don't know, because they've

641
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: never done it before.

642
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: I'd much. I bet Tyreek is a lot harder to

643
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: deal with than whoever's representing America right now.

644
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

645
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: I've seen some videos. I'm sure they're awesome, they're the

646
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: best of the best, but.

647
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: They're just a lot of them are guys that were

648
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: just too small.

649
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay to not super physical, but they're real shit.

650
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: Again, the one hundred and forty hundred and fifty pound

651
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: guys that I mean, at some point the game just

652
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: passes you by. Doesn't mean you can't play. No right

653
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: outliers in the NFL right now, like Calvin Austin would

654
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: be probably a great flag football.

655
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: Player, I would think, I would say about some of

656
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: the real small backs. Yeah they're Tree Archer and yeah

657
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: Mcluster and those type of dudes too, because there is

658
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: a running game. It's not all throwing, right, and we

659
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 3: had two or three run plays, but you weren't breaking

660
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: any tackles either, you know, I mean, so there'd probably

661
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: be a running back involved or some kind of ballcarrier. Yeah.

662
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know that those guys that the NFL

663
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: players are going to be markedly better than some of

664
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Speaker 2: those guys. Those guys are just too small to play

665
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Speaker 2: tackle football.

666
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: There's probably some really good day on the certain right

667
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: right right.

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00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: We see guys in a draft every year, Like, I

669
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: like his game, but he's one hundred and sixty pounds,

670
00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: and if.

671
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: You do, you have to play both ways. I'm sure

672
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 3: there's a lot of those guys that are pretty good

673
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: running back, pretty good linebacker. But is Fred Warner a

674
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: good running back? You know it's Nigie Harris a good linebacker?

675
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: Probably not. I mean, give me Hunter, that's a perfect

676
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: game for him. But yeah, huh. I still bet the owners.

677
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: Say no, I would be inclined to think that.

678
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And with the players too, like most of

679
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: them dread training camp. Do you want to train for

680
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: this the month before training camp? I mean that's the.

681
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: Other side of part of this, Like you got to

682
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: go live in the NFL or the Olympic village? Yeah, right,

683
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: right right? When the dream team gets together, they go

684
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: and they live in like you know, you're you're not

685
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: just you know, I'm going to go run a house

686
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: and I don't even know where the Olympics are at

687
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty.

688
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: Eight, somewhere beautiful, and I'm rich and I'm going to

689
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: live in the south by. So no, right, you got

690
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: to train make the team during that stretch is the

691
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: only time you have off, right, after many camps, I

692
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: would imagine, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the only vacation time,

693
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: and you're gon do that. Somebody would, but somebody will,

694
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: I have no doubt. But I don't think the twenty

695
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: million dollar players will. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

696
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to risk it because again, most NFL

697
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: contracts are not guaranteed, and there's stuff. There's a lot

698
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: of stuff written into your contracts. You get hurt playing

699
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: basketball or whatever, riding your motorcycle, absolutely you can avoid

700
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: the contract.

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00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can tear that up right. Yeah. I don't

702
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: think the owners will do it, but I do think

703
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: some players would. But it's the fringe guys that am

704
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna get cut or you know.

705
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: But if I go win an Olympic gold that's worth something.

706
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get on a box of wheedies or something.

707
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, you have a real career here,

708
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: an accountant or whatever, and you do that on the

709
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: side or whatever. Maybe, you know, after you couldn't make

710
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: it the NFL or whatever, we should be on a

711
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: box of wheaties. Yeah, the drive Wheaty's box. I like it.

712
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: Maybe cornflakes anyways, let's get to another break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to

714
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Speaker 2: the Driver here on the Steelers Audio Now or Matt

715
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: now will be back with more right after this release.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

718
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt that. Last week, the Jets released their

721
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Speaker 2: longtime punter, Thomas Morestead, okay, thirty nine years old. Today

722
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 2: they released Greg's eer line place kicker. So changes making

723
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Speaker 2: wholesale changes there again. Well that's the Steelers regular season opener.

724
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Speaker 3: Okay, one of where you're going breaking in the kicker,

725
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: new holder, Yeah, yeah, deal, the whole deal. New offensive coordinator,

726
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: new coach, new quarterback, a lot of huge changes, a

727
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: lot of new in New York, in New York, New

728
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Speaker 3: New York. And we talked about this a lot last

729
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: year with the Rogers led team. It was an old

730
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: and fragile build and it didn't work that way at all.

731
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: This regime must be looking at it totally different, you know.

732
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: Well that was you know, when you go back and

733
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: look at the schedule stuff, I think I want to

734
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: say the Jets last year played five of their first

735
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 2: eight games were primetime games.

736
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Speaker 3: I know there was a ton. Yeah, because there's a

737
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: lot of speculation, which I don't believe Rogers was waiting

738
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: until the schedule came out so he doesn't have to

739
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: play as many you know, night games and see all

740
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: that stuff. I mean, I doubt that's going to change

741
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: his opinion if he plays or not. But I do

742
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: remember there was a ton and I'm sure the league

743
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: wasn't thrilled. Well, especially his first year in the Jets.

744
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he gets hurt the first game. They had

745
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: a bunch of them that year, and with bad quarterbacks.

746
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was one of the things that when

747
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: the schedule came out last year, they have a little

748
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: press conference about a conference call, and somebody asked about it, Well,

749
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: the Jets kind of o us for last year. Somebody

750
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: at the league said, you know, joking lyad.

751
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh anything, but.

752
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, the less we see the New

753
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: York teams on prime time, right, it does the world

754
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: a service because they both.

755
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: Stink they've been bad for so long. Yeah, I mean,

756
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: they're not great run organizations, to be honest.

757
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: And they're not real compelling.

758
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: They're not real compelling. There's not even this year, there's

759
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: not much to get excited about, Like, oh boy, I

760
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: think they're gonna turn the corner and maybe Jackson Dark

761
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: turns into something or Fields revitalize his career. Maybe, but

762
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: they're both kind of long shots at this point. Yeah,

763
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: you know, but interesting. Yeah, so Greg the leg probably

764
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: done good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's probably gonna need a kicker at some point,

766
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: is shar But this is what you don't want to

767
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: be in a situation where you're changing Outkay, that's a

768
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: bad place to be.

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Speaker 3: We talk about that a lot. I mean that Boswell

770
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: is such a wonderful thing to automatic and it shocks

771
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: you when he misses. But I do think there's a

772
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: kicker shortage in the league where there's like twenty five.

773
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: I'm guessing it might not even be that man, maybe

774
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 3: not all that many that are professional, definite starting.

775
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: The level of what is considered adequate.

776
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that keeps going up isn't what it was ten

777
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: years ago, times one thousand.

778
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Speaker 2: If you make eighty percent of your kicks now you're

779
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: having a bad year.

780
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: You're having a bad year, and again you're one of

781
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: those teams that don't have the twenty five or twenty

782
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: of them. That is a revolving door of oh, bringing

783
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: two guys on Tuesday to kick off. And I'm sure

784
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: I know Danny Smith and special teams coaches and kicking

785
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: specialists gain a lot out of that, But I always

786
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: kind of laugh at like, well, we brought in two

787
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: kickers and worked them out. Well, he didn't rush them.

788
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: There's no win kicking the indoor.

789
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Speaker 2: When the Ravens, when the Ravens released Tucker Yeah, last

790
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: week or two weeks and whenever it was, and NFL

791
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: dot Com put out a video of their the rookie

792
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: kicker that they took, Yeah, and he's kicking these long

793
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: field goals off off of tee with no rush. Well,

794
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: it looks like the Ravens they got their next guy, right.

795
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: You don't know that, not that.

796
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: It's like making a free throw in Game seven with

797
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: the game on all Yeah, I mean that's a heck,

798
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: that's indoor.

799
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Speaker 2: Sitting there shooting free throws in the gym, right right righth.

800
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: You know I didn't run or anything ahead of it.

801
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm just standing there shooting free throws and I make

802
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: ninety five out of one hundred.

803
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: As goods Larry Bird at it right.

804
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: After running up and down the floor twelve times and

805
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: the line free throw line with the game on the

806
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: line and everybody's screaming.

807
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: You get the fans waving the road. Let alone make

808
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: a huge kick in Chicago in December, you know, like again,

809
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you're in that that treadmill of the bad kickers,

810
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of teams that are forced to

811
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: do that. Luckily the Steelers aren't. But what do you

812
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: gain when you when you cut your guy? Well, yeah,

813
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: we got some tape on Johnny that we're bringing in

814
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: this week, but like week eight, we're gonna I am out,

815
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: Like great, but did you really learn any more from

816
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: that tryout than you did? Then? It's different have him

817
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: in camp at least you know, you're at least around

818
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: them more.

819
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: But you're to see him in the preseason or yeah. Yeah,

820
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 2: So a guy like Matthew Wright has gotten so many

821
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: opportunities because the Steelers gave him opportunities to kick in

822
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: the preseason.

823
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 3: Which is kind, which is very kind.

824
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because now there's tape on him actually kicking in

825
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: a game with the pass rush and you're like.

826
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh, somebody grabs him on speed now, And to your point, Greg,

827
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: the leg's perfect. Like maybe he doesn't have the leg

828
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: that Greg leg used to have, but I at least

829
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: you know, game winning field goals. Yeah, yeah, you can

830
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 3: mentally handle it. Yeah, it made a career of it, right,

831
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: So I guess you could stick around a while, but

832
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: you don't want to be on that carousel.

833
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: Oh it's terrible. I mean, I mean I can I

834
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: can remember back to say twenty was it eighteen when

835
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Boswell was having his down year and people you should

836
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: just cut him, you.

837
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: Just you know, and then he has a good year

838
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: for somebody else and you're like, oh, man, I should

839
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: just waited that out. And I'm sure the Ravens went

840
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 3: through that last year. Yeah, but then the Offield stuff

841
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: came around. But like, how long do we hang with

842
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: this dude? Because I don't want to be on that

843
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: carousel and their new guy might be great. I have

844
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: no clue.

845
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Neither do they.

846
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: But they don't either. I was going to say they

847
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: have no clue, right, I mean, an undrafted dude, or

848
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: a fifth round pick.

849
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: You're guessing, you're hoping, really.

850
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: You're hoping, right, you know, that's I assume they'll have

851
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: two in camp. They do.

852
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they signed another rookie, so they got two rookies.

853
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 3: There should be a true call.

854
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: You know when you look at well, you know, the

855
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: Ravens are really really loaded here are they that? Because

856
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: that could be a thing, no question. I mean, that

857
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: could change the way that they try to play games.

858
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's definitely going to have to change

859
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: them a little bit. Last year, the you get past

860
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: the fifty, it's like, well, we got least three here,

861
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, we can play call accordingly basically now. I

862
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: mean again, coaches don't sleep well at night when they're

863
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: kickers one of those five to ten that are on

864
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: the revolving door. And there's a better chance the Ravens

865
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: have that now than they did.

866
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: Even if he's let's say he's league average, that's not

867
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: what they've had over the years.

868
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: So interesting.

869
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, let's get to another break. That's going to

870
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: do it. For hour number one of the Drive here

871
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I will.

872
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Speaker 3: Be back with a special hour. Yeah, right, after this,