1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Bagels from breakfast this morning. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: But you know what else I do? 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: I put cucumbers on top of my bagel, So I'll 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: put this hallopeen your cream cheese on, sorry, and then 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: hallopeen and cream cheese on cucumbers. M I'm telling you 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: it's a great topping. 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: It's crunchy, it's spicy, and it's just yummy. 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Good morning, Sweeter and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Monday, June sixth I'm g Eastkeets 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: and alongside me here in the Classic Factory as always 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: tas Millie. 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 4: The world is very meta. We were just laughing at 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 4: a guy reacting to somebody putting cream, cheese and cucumber 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: on a bagel. Everybody's just reacting to everything. Why don't 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: we just start a channel reacting to reactions. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: It's a good idea. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 4: People will watch it. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: Fresh out of health and safety protocols. Got the top 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: shot Hopoy himself, Trey Herby, Hey heyo, great to have 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: you back to you, k. We got the international Man 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: of Mystery taking it to the max. Leella. Then, and last, 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: certainly not least finding cold opens like that. Super producer 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 3: GD didn't send me that one. 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, that was a noora. 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, just feel like a cold open you 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: as we use and giggle about while the air. She 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: knows us. Shout it to the stream team. Joining us 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: live right now on YouTube. Take a second like the video, 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube, Share the show and 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: comment away, both in the stream team or below in 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: the YouTube comments. Tweet at us too at No Dunk. 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: Think and email in your NBA questions about the NBA 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: or not to No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Okay. 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: On today's show, we will do a deep dive really 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: on Quinn's stepping down as the Jazz head coach, what 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: that means for well, who's going to coach the team 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: and the direction of their franchise. And also Donovan Mitchell 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: Wos says he's unnerved. 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: I went unnerved and unsettled yesterday, but it was from 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: eating too much Chipotle on Saturday. You don't want to 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: dip into a burrito at one am. Let me tell. 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: You, you could have filmed the video like that one. 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Indeed. 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: Okay, anyway, it's hard, Well, it's so hard, so many options. 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: You just want to pick them all, you know, give 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: me one of everything. 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: But before we get to Snyder and Burrito talk and 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: even tweeted the night. We had a Game two of 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: the NBA Finals on last night and the Warriors dominated 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: this one classic third quarter Warriors sure, and then maintained 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: that lead in the fourth. Then we got some garbage time. 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: Warriors beat the Celtics one oh seven to eighty eight 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: to even the NBA Finals task. Where do you want 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: to start with this? 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: Well, big adjustment for the Golden State Warriors play better defense. 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: That was huge. The Warriors scored one fewer point than 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: they did in Game one, but the biggest change was 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: the defensive end. It started with their best defensive player, 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Draymond Greene saw on the first possession stealing it from 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: Al Horford, causing that jump ball. But that was a gotcha. 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: He's not guarding Al Horford. He's gonna guard Jalen Brown 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: for a good chunk of this game. And maybe it 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: was because Jalen Brown was so good to start this 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: game they had to move Draymond over to him. But 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure that was part of the plan because Jalen 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: Brown was so good in Game one. It just looked 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: like the Warriors didn't really have a lot of good 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: matchups for Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. Maybe Wiggins can 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: guard one of them, but Jalen was killing Klay Thompson 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: and who else are you gonna put there on him? 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: You know, trying Andredalt trying a lot of people. He 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: hit four of his first five shots here in Game 73 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: two and then only won the rest of the way. 74 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: Draymond Green was big. There was that great possession in 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: the second quarter where he stopped three Jalen Brown moves 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: and was able to get a really bad shot from 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown. So that was a big, big move Draymond 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: Green on Jail and Brown there. The Celtics had eleven 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: first half turnovers, but this was a really close game 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: at half, surprisingly just a two point game because the 81 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: Warriors missed the layup after layup after layup after five 82 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: to six in that first half. Pool had a really 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: bad spurt there. But it was a fun first half. 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: Derek White a couple of big blocks on Pool and 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: Steph Curry. But the other Celtics did not go off 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: like they did in Game one, mainly Horford, Derek White 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: and Marcus smart. We'll get to them in a second. 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: So flip the page to the third quarter. As we said, 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: it was a balllistering third quarter for the Warriors, but 90 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: it was surprising looking back. Four thirty left in the 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: third quarter was still a six point game. It was 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: pretty tight, and that's when Curry went off. They allowed 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: him to go pick and roll, so that kind of 94 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: prevented a lot of the Celtics turnovers that happened in 95 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: the first game. Instead of him running around and having 96 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: to make more passes to find him, just give him 97 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: the ball up top and allow him to work some 98 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: different types of magic, you know, a pick and roll 99 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: to the middle, pick and roll to the side line. 100 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: And he just got hot. And I thought this wasn't 101 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: a Smiley Steph game. It was as stone faced as 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: you could get from a staph game. It wasn't like 103 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: it wasn't quite Lebron's stoneface against the Celtics. But there 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: was no smiley, no jumpy, no skipping, no yeah, very 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: little of that. But he went off in that third 106 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: quarter towards the end there, as I said, it's six 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: point game, but then he started going off. Fourteen point 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: quarter for him, finished with twenty nine, and then Pool 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: came in to finish that third quarter, which was a 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: blast to watch because, as I said, bad spurt in 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: the first half, people wondering is he gonna play in 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: this series? And I think he was held out till 113 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: really late in that third quarter because he was just 114 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 4: making bad decisions in the first half going into traffic. 115 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: But he came back and assist, then a deep three 116 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: and then an even deeper three from half just dancing 117 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: on him. Wild stuff. 118 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: Steph did smile, he smiled. He's very smiley at that one. 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: You're very right. And when I said he was stoneface, 120 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: that's the smile I thought of. There was a smile 121 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: for somebody else, but no, Skipping just came out and 122 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: laughed because well, yeah. Seventeen points was the second highest 123 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: scoring number for the Warriors Jordan Poole there. This was 124 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: a dominating win, especially because Wiggins had a bad shooting night, 125 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: Clay had a bad shooting night, but they dominated thirty 126 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: five to fourteen in that third quarter, and that was 127 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: basically at the Celtics score twenty and fourteen. In the 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: middle quarters, they scored eighty eight points in total, the 129 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: fewest points they've scored in any of their twenty playoff games. 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: And again it was just getting into the Celtics and 131 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: able to fall back. You know, eventually Brown and Tatum 132 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: are going to get past your first line of defense. But 133 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: they were able to take away lobs, they were able 134 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: to get in the passing lanes, and they imposed their 135 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 4: will on the defensive end. It was a thirty five 136 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: to fourteenth third quarter all, she wrote. And I think 137 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: my last note here Gary Payton the second coming back 138 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: and helping on Tatum and Brown who looked to be 139 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: again unstoppable really against this Golden State Warriors team. Gary 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: Payton the second is so important with iagod all being 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: old claytops and not looking quite like you know, the 142 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 4: Dynasty defensive guy. So that was really really key. And 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: Al Horford only two points, Derek Waid only twelve points 144 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: on thirteen shots, although he did some good things defensively, 145 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: and Smart only two points to go along with Tiedeman 146 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: Brown who are twenty eight and seventeen eighty eight points. 147 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: This was an impressive defensive effort. 148 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: What do you think overall? I thought the Celtics started 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: off the game actually pretty well. I mean they're up 150 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: nine points early on, and that wasn't really that that 151 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Warrior's defense didn't really take effect until sort of midway through, 152 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: I think, sort of the second quarter there, and then 153 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: because Jaallen Brown just came out firing away, it was 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: like he's on track for sixty here tonight. But he 155 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: obviously did cool off here. But I think you could 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: just tell that the Warriors didn't let that first quarter 157 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: rat on them at all. They came out and they 158 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: knew that they had to go out and get this one, 159 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and Steph was good. But this was a grind out 160 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: victory I still believe, other than you know, the sort 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: of explosion there in the third quarter, because the Warriors 162 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: didn't really just go out there and find everyone. You 163 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: sort of almost expect someone like at Klay Thompson to 164 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: have six streets. He had a little burst there in 165 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the third quarter where he hit a couple, only hit 166 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the one three, But I think you also noticed and 167 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: he stayed in the game late. I think Steve Kerz 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: really trying to get him some sort of rhythm, some 169 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: sort of momentum because he can't shoot right now, which 170 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: is crazy. If Clay He's taken the same sort of 171 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: shots that we see sometimes they don't always look like 172 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: they're great shots, but when it's Clay, he's got the 173 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: green light to fire away. So I think that's what 174 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. He hit a couple, but he 175 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: also was like, all right, I've got to get inside. 176 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I've got to just try to get something going here, 177 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: and he did a couple of times. Even again, he 178 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily knocking them down, but he was showing it, 179 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: just trying to vary up his game a little bit. 180 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: And then the Jordan Pool staff, I mean that was 181 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: like just that really sealed it. When he hit that 182 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: second one there in the third quarter, and then the 183 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I think Udoka was like, hey, we came 184 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: back in the fourth quarter of game one. Game two, 185 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: it was like a burst, only about six points. And 186 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: then he was like, all right, I think we're done 187 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: here tonight, and he took the right move, I guess, 188 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and said, all right, let's rest of these guys. But overall, 189 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the Warriors played better, they still didn't play great. 190 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: It's ironic that both team shot fifteen for thirty seven 191 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: from downtown exactly the same amount, and in game one 192 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: it was Hawford smart and White, who went fIF fifteen 193 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: for twenty three themselves only two for seven combined. For 194 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: those three guys, al Horfe had a very weird He 195 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: didn't even take a shot until the third quarter. 196 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: Because he had his birthday. 197 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: That's right. I forgot about Bay Yeah, yeah, right at 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: some point. But the weird thing is again between Smart, 199 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: White and Awefull, they only got up seven three pointers. 200 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: That to me is very unusual because I didn't expect 201 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: them to go fifteen for twenty three again. But I 202 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: would have thought that Udoka would have been like all 203 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: right with these guys, like spread the floor out, moved 204 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: that ball. That's how they got all those open looks 205 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: there in Game one. Didn't really happen in Game two. 206 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: So they kept turning the ball over well, and. 207 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: They did and they got punished for that. Thirty three 208 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: points off those turnovers for the Warriors. And I know 209 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: that both of these teams have a tendency to turn 210 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the ball over, so if one can really capitalize on 211 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: the other one in a nineteen point game that had 212 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: an eighteen point positive differential in those points off turnofs 213 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: compared to the Celtics. That's largely where the game I 214 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: think was won there so very very impro I thought 215 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Cavon Looney was was good again. He continues to just 216 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: sort of be in the right spot at the right time. 217 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: When that ball does move around, go to the hoop, 218 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Wigans will find just Steph Curry will find it, and 219 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: he finishes strong around the rim. Because there wasn't like 220 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: a standout second best player I didn't think for the Warriors. 221 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: I thought I thought Paul had his moments. Of course, 222 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Looney was okay, Draymond was better, Clay was okay, but 223 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: none of them were like really really good there. And 224 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: then Steph, I mean, man, when he gets that half 225 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: a inch of daylight, it's cash, it's catch and it's 226 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: great to watch. So overall glad for the series. We've 227 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: got a one one here, good good bounce back here 228 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: from the Warriors. 229 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: Who really set the tone for the Warriors you thought 230 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: last night, True it was Draymond, no doubt about it. 231 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: He had the I don't know, you don't call it 232 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: a steal because it's just a jump ball, but he 233 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: forced the jump ball with Al Horford right away, and then, 234 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: like tass Is saying, after that first possession, he was 235 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: on Jaalen Brown, and outside of the first three minutes, 236 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: really it was really frustrate frustrating Jalen Brown. Just the 237 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: tighter defense, the more physical defense, and it led to 238 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: the Warriors forcing eighteen turnovers, which Lee mentioned thirty three 239 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: points for the Warriors because they were mostly live balls 240 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: and overs. The Warriors limited dribble penetration. That was a 241 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: huge problem in Game one, a huge part of the 242 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: reason that Jalen Brown was able to have such a 243 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: big fourth quarter. In Game one, he was going right 244 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: by Klay Thompson, either finishing inside or driving kick to 245 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: somebody outside for an wide open three. So I thought 246 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: the Warriors did a great job of having active hands. 247 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: They were switching off ball and they were just completely 248 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: locked in. And it even filtered down to Curry. Like 249 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Curry is playing incredible basketball right now. Sixty three points 250 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: in seventy minutes in this series, forty six shots, nine 251 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: a sists, just four turnovers. And in that third quarter 252 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: there's a couple of great plays where he's playing some 253 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: really physical on ball defense against Marcus Smart, forcing a turnover, 254 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: forcing a miss, hitting back to back threes. Looney then 255 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: scores and then back to back threes for Pool as well. 256 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: So you could tell between Draymond sett and the tone 257 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: early and Steph being as committed on defense as he 258 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: was offensively. This was the perfect kind of game for 259 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: the Warriors to really blow things open, cuz you know, 260 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: it could have gone either way. To the first half 261 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: that was very similar to Game one, but in the 262 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: third quarter, obviously, the Warriors had the Celtics number. Celtics 263 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: have had a number of bad third quarters in the playoffs, 264 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: they just didn't have a good fourth to offset it 265 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: in this one. 266 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: What do you think about the officiating overall, because I 267 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: know some Celtics fans are like, this game was way 268 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: more physical than Game one, mainly because Draymond set in 269 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: the tone barking and everybody obviously getting into it. And 270 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: we can get into whether or not he should have 271 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: been even playing in the second half with the whole 272 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: Jalen Brown incident, but yeah, well yeah, the idea that 273 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: he was just the team really that they were allowed 274 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: to be more physical because the officiating. I know the 275 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: Celtics talked a little bit about it after the game. 276 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: Did it did it get in their heads? Were they 277 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: just not ready to sort of fight back? In this 278 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 3: one because they thought the whistle was going to be 279 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: similar to Game one. 280 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: Would you think there were some bad whistles, There's no doubt. Yeah, 281 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: dropping the flow, Yeah, Draymond stole some some calls because 282 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: he was flopping around. There was bad whistles definitely against 283 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: the Celtics. But I don't think that's why they lost 284 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: at all. That's all I got to say. I mean, 285 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: that's really I don't really want to get it into 286 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: him more. 287 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, Jalen Brown said that the game changed when he 288 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: got his second file. That was a bad call, no 289 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: doubt about it. Gary Payton the second on a fast 290 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: break layup, he goes up for a lefty, he just 291 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: misses it, and Jalen's like holding his arms back to 292 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: not follow him. But that was the first quarter. Peyton 293 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: misses the layup, he missed the two free throws. Jalen 294 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: didn't get pulled from the game, and he didn't file 295 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: for the rest of the game. So yes, I mean, 296 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: that was probably a frustrating play in the moment, but 297 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: it's you know, there's forty minutes left of basketball. You 298 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: gotta be able to recover. So maybe, I don't know, 299 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: maybe it was in the Celtics heads that they weren't 300 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: going to be able to be as physical as the 301 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: Warriors were being. But to me it would be frustrating, 302 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: but the rest were not the problem for the Celton. 303 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: And bad call on that one. Fair, But let's give 304 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: Zack zab a credit because he gave he gave Derek White, 305 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: no Jordan Pool sill excuse me, he gave Jordan Pool 306 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: a tech fail in a play there where he ran 307 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: over the top. 308 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: He tried jumping over Jordan Poole, his arms up sort 309 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: of trips him whenever he called tech foul stopped fast break. 310 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he went back and he said, Nope, 311 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't a tech foul. I miss, I sort of 312 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: miss saw what I thought. I saw that Almost I 313 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: don't remember a time where that has happened where they've 314 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: rescinded a tech foil in the moment like that. They 315 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: almost never do because it's like a tech foul. So 316 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: we've got to give him credit for that, because that 317 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: was the right call. No one. There was nothing malicious 318 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: from White, nothing malicious from Paul. Paul was Rich literally like, well, 319 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: is he going to kick me in the head. No, 320 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: and they almost didn't touch each other. So some other 321 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: calls sure bad, but let's also give them credit where 322 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: it's dude. 323 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: Yes. And also he called him tech foul on Jordan 324 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: Powell correctly, where to go? 325 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk go Dreamond though, because early in the 326 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: game he picks up the technical foul getting into it 327 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: with Grant Williams. I mean, yeah, he's somehow if I 328 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: remember correctly, Draamond Green trucked Grant Williams, Yes, and got 329 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: the foul called on Grantams. Okay, this is Dreamond stuff here, 330 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: and that is still getting into it with the officials, 331 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: gets a tech Okay, can you shut up? Dreamlind gets 332 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: that first time. Of course, this comes into play later 333 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: in the second quarter. Right still, he fouls Jalen Brown. 334 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: Draymond does on a three pointer. 335 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: It's a fowl. 336 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: The two get tangled up on the floor. You got 337 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Green's legs sort of on Brown shoulders and heads. Hey, 338 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: don't like that, you know, stop that sort of get 339 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: off me. Then you know a little shoved back from Draymond. 340 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: Jalen Brown steps up. Now he's sort of standing over Draymond. 341 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: Draymond he said after get I'm a man first before 342 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: I'm a basketballer, can't stand over me. And anyway, there's 343 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of jostling, and then it's like, uh oh, 344 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: they're gonna go look at it. And they're saying on 345 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: the broadcast, I don't think they're wrong. Regular season game. 346 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: This is the classic double teas. You guys are both 347 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: guilty here of like just doing nonsense. Okay, you both 348 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: get a tee, but they don't, and some people are like, good, 349 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: it shouldn't be a tee to begin with. But then 350 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: there's this whole thing, and Draymond's even talking about it 351 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: after the game, is like, yeah, I already got one. 352 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: They're unlikely gonna give me a second one because I 353 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: got one, and I'm Draymond Green. You know, I don't 354 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: get I don't get favorable treatment, but I get favorable Triman, Yes, 355 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: really weird the whole thing. So how do you what 356 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: do you think about the whole thing and the decision. 357 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: I guess to night Ty stream on there. 358 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Because of the second time, So I think they're both right. 359 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: I think in that moment the refs, no, we can't 360 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: throw a guy out for this, But also Draymond pushes 361 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: the envelope so far every time, at some point he 362 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: is going to get thrown out for something like that, 363 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: and it's going to be his fault. As my man 364 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: Chuck d he said on Twitter there last night, how 365 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: many times are you going to put your head in 366 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: the lion's mouth before you realize the line's going to 367 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: bite you? You know, because that's what Draymond does, is 368 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: he pushes it so far he gets tangled out. Oh whoops, 369 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: my legs are in your face. Oh I what didn't 370 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: do that? Oh you're pushing me? What are you pushing 371 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: me on? He's always the victim in that sense. So 372 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: Draymond has to understand that he puts the refs in 373 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: these positions multiple times in a game where it's like, 374 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: is that a tech? I mean, we don't want to 375 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: have to throw him out, But at the same time, 376 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: the refs have to say, Draymond, cut. 377 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: That shit out. 378 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: Man, you're gonna get yourself thrown out for two probably 379 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: unnecessary texts. But the refs again give them credit in 380 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: that moment. There was no way that he deserved to 381 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: be thrown out, and they said. 382 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: You don't think either of them deserved any tech. 383 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: There was happening between I mean and again, I understand 384 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: people saying, well, if it's a tech, it's a tech. 385 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be the finals, a regular season whatever, but 386 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: it should be different in that moment because the refs 387 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: are actually we always say they've got to sort of, 388 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, bring the level to a finals level. And 389 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Britain came their composure, so they did the right thing. 390 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: But Draymond, if you do get thrown out later in 391 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the series, fuck man, it will be your father doing 392 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: it because you continue to be well. 393 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: Trey has a theory and he said it on the 394 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: Immediate Reaction podcast last night that Draymond like goes and 395 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: gets his first. 396 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: Technical more powerful. Yeah, you get away with more. The 397 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: least gets longer after he gets the first lea. My 398 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: two takes on this that I you know, have germinated 399 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: over the night. Is that number one. I definitely missed 400 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: Draymond almost pulling down Jalen Brown's very funny. Also, I 401 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: think the best team came from Joe Varden at the 402 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: Athletics subscribe at the Athletic dot Com slash no Dunks. 403 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Celtics shouldn't have stopped Jayalen Brown from getting in Draymon's face. Yeah, yeah, 404 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: that deescalated the situation. That was not a double technical 405 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: situation in the playoffs. But if they keep going at 406 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: each other, Draymond ain't backing down. So sure, that's how 407 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: we could pick up four technical easily. You flash back 408 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen, Draymon's most famous missing of a game 409 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: when he stepped over Lebron. No call that was postgame 410 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: right that he eventually got added the extra flagrant file 411 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: point which eventually eliminated him for Game five. Yeah, I 412 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: suppose so even in that, you know, Draymond's stepping over Lebron, 413 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: that's a bigger deal to me. That's more of a 414 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: more of a skirmish, and nothing was called in that scenario. 415 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: So to expect this here in the finals I think 416 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: is kind of a kind of silly, but a weird 417 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: scenario like Draymond just kicking back, throwing his feet up 418 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: on the autumn. But the ottoman is Jayalen Brown. 419 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, weird. 420 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: What do you think? 421 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: Well, Celtics fans, they got nothing to complain about. Really, 422 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: their team could barely hit one in three shots. They 423 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: shot thirty five percent from this in this game. That 424 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: is where they lost the game, and we all want 425 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: the referees to call what they see. Well, they didn't 426 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: give Draymond Green a leash on that first technical, and 427 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 4: that's what everybody wants. If Draymond is barking at the officials, 428 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 4: give him at tech. And that's what happened. He just 429 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 4: started yelling at the refs. They gave him a tigue. 430 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: They teaed him up and they said, all right, that's 431 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen in this game. You can't talk to us. 432 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: And then in the second instance, I really don't think 433 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: he deserved a call at all. I don't think either 434 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 4: of them really deserved anything because when you look at it, 435 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: he fouled Jalen Brown because Jalen Brown kicked out his 436 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: leg anyway, So they both go to the floor. Draymond 437 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 4: Green falls down, and yes, his legs end up on 438 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown's head, but I think they just ended up 439 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 4: on his head. I think that's just what happens. So 440 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: Jaalen Brown throws off those throws off those legs and 441 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 4: people say that Draymond shoved him. Afterwards, he said he 442 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: put his hand. If you want to call that a shove, 443 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean, come on. He put his hand on Jayleen 444 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: Brown to say, listen, I wasn't kicking your head. It 445 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: was it was just a touch and he said he 446 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: was he was already seated. He put his hand on 447 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: Jayleen Brown. He didn't get up. He put his hand 448 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: on him and sat on his butt. It was Jalen 449 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: Brown who got up and sort of got in his 450 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: face with Draymond Green got like tried to pull his 451 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 4: shorts to get up, and that was that. They talked. 452 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 4: Maybe the Celtics should have allowed it to happen a 453 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: little bit more so he got tossed. That that is 454 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: a good point, but that is that that's what happened. 455 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: It was. It was a chat if you go, if 456 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: you look at it frame by frame, he didn't do 457 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: anything and he shouldn't have been tossed for that. And yeah, 458 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: the first tech wasn't something that officials hand out immediately 459 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: to Draymond Green. In the past, they allow him a 460 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: leash to talk and talk and talk and talk. But 461 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: when he trucked Grant Williams and still was talking to 462 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: the referee, they gave him a tech. And so that 463 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: one was fairly quick, I thought. And yeah, the second 464 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: one maybe the Celtics pull him off number on because 465 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: they don't want Jahen Brown toss, but they also want 466 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: to beat the Warriors. I don't. I don't think they're 467 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: they're looking at this thinking. Maybe they are, hey, let's 468 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: get Draymond Green toss, but I think they want to 469 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 4: beat the full Warriors. And and I'm sure they weren't 470 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: thinking that in the moment. I'm sure they were thinking, 471 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: we don't want Jalen Brown toss. But again, they lost 472 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: this game because they shot thirty five percent from the floor. 473 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: That had nothing to do with the officiating. But Draymond Green, 474 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 4: Draymond Green was a beast in this game, and he 475 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: had led the more fierce team, and I'm glad he 476 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: didn't get tossed in that instance. 477 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: Here's a question for you to go back to play. 478 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: Can the Warriors win three more games against the Celtics 479 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: with Clay shooting like this? I mean four nineteen In 480 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: Game two, you said they like Curt decided just keep 481 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: him out here basically a garbage times. See we can 482 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: get them going at all. I don't think he really 483 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: got going all that much. He shooting thirty percent from 484 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: the field in the final, but I asked that because 485 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: like every Warriors championship team has been Curry. He's he 486 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: is the common factor in all of those titles. But 487 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: then there's always a second guy, Kevin Durant, be it Clay. 488 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: That is like a go to don't worry, he's our 489 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: secondary scorer. And right now with him struggling, you know, 490 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: they don't really have that you know, you know, Pool 491 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: got it go on a little bit eerie and those 492 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: two bombs there, But can they do it with El 493 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: clai or just Clay? And are you even worried that 494 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: Clay can never find you know, classic Clay from the 495 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: you know, a game or two at least in the 496 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: serious prayer. 497 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, well, that's it. I'm not 498 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: worried because he's had two eight point eight three point 499 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: games so far, basically in close out game. So get 500 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: to game six, the worries. If they're up three to 501 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: then Clay is going to have a forty five point game. 502 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: But certainly it is a concern because he's not just 503 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: missing these shots for someone of his standards of shooting. 504 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: He's clunking a lot of those. So maybe the layoff 505 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: didn't help him. From the Mavericks series. Maybe he needed 506 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: to keep playing, who knows, But we've also seen him 507 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: at times against the Mavericks. He went six for eighteen 508 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: in one game there. He went six to twenty against 509 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: the Memphis Grizzly, so he does. He's a little bit 510 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: sort of feast and famine right now, but you know 511 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: they can survive if someone else's sort of filling in 512 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: the void a little bit there, And Jordan poul offensively 513 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: gave it to him last night. Wiggansn't hasn't really sort 514 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: of established himself too much, so there are points there, 515 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: but as you saw on the broadcast where he did 516 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: hit that three last night, it only can sometimes maybe 517 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: take one and then Clay's like, you can see a 518 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: little avalanche coming himself. 519 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, he finally hit a three, and he did like, yeah, yeah, 520 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: she's in horrid. 521 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, you never because he is such 522 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: a great shooter, He's going to get basically as many 523 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: chances as he needs to go. 524 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: Because you don't see a game in this series where 525 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: it's a take game and Kurk goes away from Clay 526 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: taking him off the floor in a close game for 527 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 3: a Gary Pete or something like that, and he could 528 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: still be out there or like a Pool, he's gonna 529 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna give him the benefit of doubt every single 530 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: time that he'll get going. 531 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Just for the gravity alone. Yeah, because it's like, Okay, 532 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: you're going to say to the Celtics, all right, are 533 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: you gonna leave Clay and double Jordan Paul? You know 534 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: in a let's say Jordan Pool's had seven threes in 535 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: the game, You're gonna double him and leave Clay. Great, 536 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: go and do that. So No, he's proven, he's done 537 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: it so many times. He's a huge playoff performer. He'll 538 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: get as many chances as they need from him. 539 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: He's doing too much right now, Clay is over dribbling 540 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: the ball. They're like posting them up to try and 541 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: attack Peyton Pritchard just because Peyton Pritchard's the smallest guy 542 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: out there. Just catch and shoot. Like the best Klay 543 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: Thompson games are when he touches the ball forty times 544 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: for forty seconds and makes forty threes. Just stand outside 545 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: and shoot some threes. See the ball go through a 546 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: few times. The post ups are weird to me. Like 547 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: the best offense that the Warriors had last night, just Steph, 548 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: just go out there. Steph makes him place you don't 549 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: see it from Steve kerr Offfen saying just go play 550 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: pick and roll basketball. Other than that, they got to 551 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: move the ball. They are, you know, a ball movement team, 552 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 2: driving kickball, switching sides. Everybody kind of is actually moving 553 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: as well as the ball. It short circuits the offense 554 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: when Clay goes into post up mode and obviously he 555 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: doesn't have the explosion inside right now to be finishing 556 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: at the rim or to really even be shooting these 557 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: fadeaways over Pritchard. So I'd like to see him just 558 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: get going on some catch and shoots. 559 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: I think there could be instances where they shoose Gary 560 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 4: Payton the Second over Klay Thompson with the way things 561 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: are working, because Gary Payton the Second played twenty five 562 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 4: minutes in this game, nearing Clay Thompson's thirty minutes, and 563 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: Clay was playing garbage time to try and get him going, 564 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: and the way Steph is playing on offense, you just 565 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: need guys who are going to turn the Celtics over 566 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: and play incredible defense. Really, So if you've got Peyton 567 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: and Draymond Green and Andrew Wiggins and whoever the fifth 568 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 4: guy is around Curry. That could be enough to really 569 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: get the Warriors going. And you know, Gary Payton the 570 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 4: second is doing enough as sort of a you know, 571 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: he's there, their Bruce Brown. He plays on the short role. 572 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: He's he's kind of like their big man. And then 573 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: he'll he'll go in the corner and I know they 574 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: told him to be able to shoot in the corner 575 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 4: and be able to shoot the rim. I mean, he 576 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 4: was three of three in this game. You could see 577 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 4: him getting some more buckets. Andrew Wiggins obviously not a 578 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: great night, but he missed the layup after a layup 579 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: after layup. He scored eleven. If he hits a freaking layup, 580 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 4: you know, he's got a seventeen to eighteen the classic 581 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 4: Wiggins game. So I think they have enough offense with 582 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 4: Gary Payton the second coming in, especially with the way 583 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: Otto Porter's feeling it at times, and Jordan Poole has 584 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: a great sign that Jordan Poole started going, because that 585 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 4: was his first good stretch really of this series, first. 586 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: Good quarter there in the third quarter of the finals. 587 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: So far, Celtics in the playoffs six and zero following 588 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: a loss, so we'll find out what happens on Wednesday night. 589 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: Even more impressive, three of those wins are like by 590 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 3: twenty plus points, so they usually have an answer here. 591 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: They have a response every single time. Though I'm concerned, 592 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 3: if I'm being completely honest with obviously, the health of 593 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: Robert Williams the third. Yeah, he looks bad out there. 594 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: I mean, he's given it his all. I mean he 595 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: still had a couple of nice challenges at the rim, 596 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: but he only ended up playing what fourteen or fifteen minutes, 597 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: and I think you just see him like when he 598 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: is put onto a smaller guard, he just does not 599 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: have any lateral quickness because of the knee injury. And 600 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: then Marcus Smart just had a stinker too, and you 601 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: know he's injured as well, and then injured even Robert 602 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 3: Williams even more when he accidentally fell into him. Like 603 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: these two guys, it's going to be really difficult for 604 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: them to win three more games with these guys really 605 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: banged up. Smart one for six, I thought, making terrible 606 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: decisions in the first quarter too, like he was a 607 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: part of those live ball turnovers, just passes that weren't there. 608 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: But you know, we'll see if they can they can 609 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 3: counter here in game three. 610 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they ever won their last two game threees though, 611 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: So is that a good thing or a bad thing? 612 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it means absolutely nothing. But yeah, no, I think 613 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Mitt certainly didn't seem to have that same juice 614 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: that he had in Game one, and he was right 615 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: up for that game and this one he was like 616 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: just nohe knew was aggressive, So I don't think he 617 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: was injured. I think he was just like he just 618 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's that, hey, we've got the split mentality anyway, 619 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: you know. But but then they got off to a 620 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: really good stout, so we're. 621 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: In this game. 622 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: We should have been up more. 623 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they should if. 624 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: They would have taken care of the ball a little 625 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: bit better in the first half. I think the Celtics 626 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: have a decent lead heading out. No, they may have 627 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: given it all away in the third cord because they 628 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: don't play great in the third corps. The Warriors are 629 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: unbelievable in that quarter, but would have been more of 630 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: a game. That's one thing we said, watch the turnovers. 631 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: Like the Celtics win games when they take you to 632 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: the ball and generally lose them when they keep coughing 633 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: it up and a lot of these were light bulb. 634 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they gave up. They had eleven turnovers in that 635 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: first half, but they were still only you know, within 636 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: two points. There a more traditional just seven in that 637 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 4: third quarter or sorry, second half, where that's a regular 638 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 4: number for a team, that's their average. Basically, you know, 639 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 4: if you double it up for fourteen throughout the entirety 640 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: of a game, Yeah, you could say the Celtics could 641 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: have been up more. But you could also say the 642 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: Warriors could have been up a ton if they hit 643 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: some freaking layups in that first half. But Marcus Smart 644 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: was defended in this game. They were all up in 645 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: his girl. They were just ready to not allow open threes. 646 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: Al Horford I was surprised that he had no open 647 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: threes really in this game. I think he should have 648 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 4: been out there, you know, ready to fire a little 649 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: bit more. I think when he has a big game, 650 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: as we saw we talked about the flex game versus Aganist, 651 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: de Kumpo came out and had a stinker the next night, 652 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: sticker the next three. I guess you can't expect big 653 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: games from him night in and night out, But yeah, 654 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: you'd think that somebody one of those three would step 655 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: up in Derek White, Marcus Smart and Ellhrford. But again, 656 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: when Smart's being defended, he's not really going to go off. 657 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 4: I don't think the same way. So that was the 658 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: warrior stepping up, and I think a little blessing that 659 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: Andre Gudalo was out. I agree the thirty eight year 660 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: old does not need to play in the series. I 661 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: don't think he can coach. But you know, Gary Payton 662 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: the second is just such such a menace and they 663 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: just know what they're doing on the defensive end. He 664 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: you know, Gary Payton the Second worked out the kinks. 665 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: He was scared. I think he had a flashback when 666 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: he was going up for the layup and Jalen Brown 667 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: was behind him. He had a flashback of Dylan Brooks 668 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: hitting him, I'm sure, and he was trying to protect 669 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: his body a little bit. He fell, missed both free throws, 670 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: was kind of slow on rotations to start, but then 671 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: I think he worked out the kinks. There's that possession 672 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: where he falls and Draymond Green recovers for him, and 673 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: Gary Payton goes up to Draymond Green to say, yes, 674 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: we are playing freaking finals defense so there they got 675 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 4: to be jack. But yes, the Celtics are good enough 676 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 4: to come back and not miss a billion shots and 677 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 4: and also yeah, not turn it over because yeah they 678 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: lacked a flow because of those turnovers for sure. 679 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: Finals m v P update after two games. How how 680 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: you're ranking it one, two, three right now? 681 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: After two Well, so, I so you gave you the 682 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: three two one votes. 683 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was difficult last night. It was in the 684 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: brownlow Metal. 685 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I love it. 686 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: We ultimately went with Tray Do you remember Curry Pool 687 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: to two. 688 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got guilted into it too. 689 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: I wanted to give it to Zach. 690 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: Drew, Dre Draymond. 691 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, you could really convince me of any Blooney 692 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: and Gary Payton the second were all up for that third. 693 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: I would I would have gone, and then Tutam hole 694 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: for Draymond Green. I think you should have been the 695 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: two hole. 696 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Tatum hit six threes, but he was a 697 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: minus like whatever. I don't think it was because of him. 698 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: That's where that sat. 699 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: But it was a blowout though, you know, tough to 700 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: get a Brown Live. 701 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: Boys in the streamline. 702 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got persuaded. Okay, but don't worry about 703 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: States game overall, right now, Curry or you tell me 704 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: who's who's one, two, three right now? 705 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think Curry obviously as a one one man. 706 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Who's number two? I mean Tatum didn't do that much 707 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: in game one? Did he? Brown was good? 708 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: It's a little street. 709 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: Wow it is. Yeah, I guess al Horfe did nothing 710 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, I guess Jalen Brown is leading the Celtics. 711 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah over two games. 712 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even though yeah yeah, and then oh wow, 713 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean because yeah, I mean the Warriors don't get 714 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: any real credit for that Game one. I mean other 715 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: than Steph So I guess yeah, Steph Brown. Then probably 716 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: Tatum was what. 717 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: About Mark John's It's played two games, all right. I've 718 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: enjoyed him on the car. I don't know why Bree's 719 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: coming back. Yeah, it's tough anyway we're getting that is 720 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: Currie to lose if the Warriors, of course that win, 721 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: and then very fascinating of the Celtics, you know, can 722 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: can pull off this finals up upset? Who would be 723 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: winning it for them? But lots of lots of basketball 724 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: still to be played, lots. 725 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: Of basketball still to be played. But history says game 726 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: three quite important. Oh this is the fortieth time. Fortieth 727 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: time the teams have split the first two games of 728 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: the NBA Finals, and the previous thirty nine instances, the 729 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: team that wins Game three has gone on to win 730 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: eighty two percent of the time thirty two and seven. Wow, 731 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: in those thirty ninth series. 732 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: Does a douche on decide for the war is? Isn't it? 733 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Do she on? 734 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: DoD You guys are still heading to Boston? 735 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: Yes, we are. 736 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: You'll be in the building. 737 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: Yes, we'll be in the building hopefully on the court 738 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: in the garden. 739 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: Three. 740 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, traded be heading tomorrow to Boston for Games three 741 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: and four. So I can't wait to check in with 742 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: you guys, yes on the podcast and get the sights 743 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: and sounds from the game. Any other random notes from 744 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: game two or this finals? 745 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: So far? 746 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: Got anything? 747 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: Still want to see Bullet Train? Man? 748 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, these guys in on Bullet. 749 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: Train, So what is it? It's a movie. 750 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: It looks like Brad pet on a train, just fighting 751 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: fighting people bullets. 752 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: And train Lonzo and I don't think they're in it. 753 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: I think they're just that's just the primo. Yeah, okay, 754 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: because Damian in Melbourne this weekend for a big box 755 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: was out in a football game and everything. Yeah. Yeah, 756 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: so they must have shot this stuff in advance. 757 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: I thought it was live. 758 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't quite know what it is other than a 759 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: movie promo, but it seems like we've already had Keanu Redged, 760 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: didn't the speed to was on the train, wasn't it 761 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: that on a bullet one was on a bus? Yeah? 762 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Maybe this spiritual? 763 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, successor to speed. 764 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if I should feel bad, but I 765 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: have no idea what you guys are talking about. Commercials. Yeah, 766 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: on one hand, I feel left out. On the other hand, 767 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: you're not missing missing out on commercials. I'm watching the 768 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: in house feed. I'm watching Jersey giveaways on the NBA 769 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 4: app on apples, Like. 770 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: Why are we even sending them to Boston? You can 771 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: just be watching this feet instead. It's like you're there, right, 772 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: that's what you're doing. You're basically there in the bay. 773 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: Sure you're watching me. He wants to shoot her out 774 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: on the court. 775 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: I know why he wants. 776 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, we gotta get hook up with Chiefs. 777 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: His Chiefs was on the court, remember shooting freak throwers 778 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: and stuff. Mane he's gonna kick out. Yeah, cheez, hit 779 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: us up. 780 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 3: Who's going to be the uh singing the national anthem 781 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: for Games three in Boston? 782 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: Or you know who? 783 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: You're hoping for? 784 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: A Boston Boys and he. 785 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: You think one of the Wallburgs is singing. I'll bet 786 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: you on that. See see feel it, feel it, Come on, 787 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: come on. 788 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: Bad it's such a good anthem. 789 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: Okay, so you want one of the Wallburgs. Don't care 790 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: which one? 791 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I get them confused. Donny, Donny and mock. 792 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: Which one's the burger guy? 793 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta go to Wallburger. I was looking up 794 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: the best Boston baked beans in Boston. It's hard to 795 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: find the hard to find it straight up beans location 796 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: sliding the d MS. Let us know where the best 797 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: baked beans are in. 798 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: All of Boston. 799 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: What's there one thing you're hoping to do besides him 800 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 3: shooting around on the court, right? Is there? 801 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: Like get a green hat? Get a large green hat. 802 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: I would say it is my number one goal here 803 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: all right in Boston. And sit next to red hour 804 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 2: back the statue. Yeah, sit by that statue. 805 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: Don't do what that one heat fan did? Did you 806 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: see that making the no. The heat fan was like, 807 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a name for this move, 808 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: but basically the upside down torking, where like you do 809 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: the handstand the legs on the statue. I saw this 810 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: phoneo go around, and like the Beantawn boys were very upset, 811 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 3: like the disrespect that that's disrespectful to a statue. 812 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: Red didn't even want chili. I didn't even have child 813 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: until Red past the white. 814 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, good point, yeah, alright, okay, and anything else 815 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: you want to do. What about the what's the sandwich? 816 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 3: What's the amazing sandwich? 817 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: Uh lopster? 818 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you should go grab one of those. Yeah, 819 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: and that will cost I'm sure one hundred and thirteen 820 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: dollars for I loves to roll this big. They're always 821 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: super expensive. Loves to rolls. 822 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 4: Fine, you want to go back to Red our rocks 823 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 4: time where they're handing them out in prison. 824 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: We went to a really good seafood joined there in Boston. 825 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: Remember that that was cool? Neptunes, Yeah, wow, good memory, 826 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: all right, Neptunes. 827 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you paid one hundred and thirteen dollars like twenty bucks. Yeah, 828 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know what twenty three dollars there 829 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 3: you're gonna catch that day. Yeah, well yeah, a living yeah, okay, 830 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: uh anything else? Did you see Selo Green doing the 831 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: anthem there in Green? 832 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: He was half time in Green in Boston or he 833 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: had the green thing on? Interesting? No, no, I just 834 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting. 835 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: I just want to know how you spell Selo. I've 836 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: seen the spell so many ways. 837 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: Ce dash l O. 838 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: I see that way, seeing a space between the CLO 839 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: and then I've seen them jam together with the capital L. 840 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 3: I just want to know which one I also is back. 841 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 3: I mean he was Gon for a while. 842 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised they went with se Lo Green. They 843 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: usually go Carlos Santana for the Warriors. 844 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 4: An. 845 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're saving them with the cool drummer. 846 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 847 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 3: His wife uncertain, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, 848 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: that's probably a good time to take a break. 849 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: Ce dash capital that. I'm sorry, that's what I thought 850 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 4: it was. 851 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: No, definitely c E. 852 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: All right, he's got it CEE capital l O on 853 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: his Twitter. 854 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: I know, but you see it. 855 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm going with here, he's got it. 856 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 4: In the modern day, you gotta lose a dash and. 857 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: I can't search there's no dashing, goodie mouth, but I 858 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: know that. Okay, let's take our first break when we 859 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: come back, let's talk Quinn Snyder leaving the Utah Jazz. 860 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. 861 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: We'll be slaying in the national anthem. Oh yeah, Boston 862 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: chumble wamba? 863 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 4: Yeah? 864 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: Why not? How would you pronounce? MSNBC? Miss Mobs nailed it. 865 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: All right back here in the Classic Factory with the boys. 866 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: Got some big news dropping on Sunday in the NBA 867 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: Quinn Snyder's time as head coach of the Utah Jazz. 868 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: It's over. 869 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: Shortly after Wolves reported the news there, on Sunday afternoon, 870 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 3: the Jazz formally announced that after eight seasons, Snyder would 871 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: be stepping down. So lots of talk about with this. 872 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 3: First one is like, how surprised were you by ultimately 873 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: I guess Snyder's decision here too to walk away. 874 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: Uh, not all that surprise that Snyder is no longer 875 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: the coach. How we got to this point and whose 876 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: idea it was, I'm not sure, I think because the 877 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: Jazz said, hey, we can extend your contract if you want, 878 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: or if you want, you can take some time off. 879 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: So it felt like to me the Jazz were trying 880 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: to be respectable for what Quinn Snyder has done for 881 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: the franchise, and he's been a very successful coach, certainly 882 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: in the regular season, you know, getting to the playoffs, 883 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: but the big problem has always been taking that next 884 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: step in the playoffs. They've had a couple of meltdowns, 885 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: a couple of bad performances against the Rockets. One time 886 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: down in the Bubbler Course, they gave up a three 887 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: to one lead, and then last year they gave up 888 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: two zero lead there to the LA Clippers, and it 889 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: just felt like it was time for one of he 890 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell or Rudy Gobert to move on. And I 891 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: think going with the coaching side of things, Snider things 892 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: is probably the easiest and first thing that the Jazz 893 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: could do, because you don't want to give away your talent. 894 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: You certainly don't. I mean, if you're going to trade 895 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: one of Mitchell or Rudy Gobert, you want a big 896 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: package in return. These are all NBA All Star caliber players. 897 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: So I think ultimately they all sat around and Danny 898 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: Ainge has come in and sort of said, maybe it's 899 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: time for a new voice. But Quinn, you know what, 900 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Do you want to change? Do 901 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: you want to take some time off? Here? Probably sort 902 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 1: of helping him make that decision. I think so. I think, look, 903 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: if you Quinn Snight is going to get another job. 904 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: Whenever he decides to continue coaching, whether he takes a 905 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: year or two off, he'll get another job without any 906 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: or any real problems there. And for the Jazz, I 907 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: think they just decided, listen, let's start with a new 908 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: coach and then we'll decide what we do going forward 909 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: with the star players. 910 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 3: Was anyone surprised at all? It's Nader. Yeah. After I 911 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: guess they gave him a contract extension to possibly sign. 912 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: He was uncommitted, and so he's moving on. He says, yeah, 913 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 3: he need a new voice, that's what he's saying about 914 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: Utah Jazz. 915 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 4: I think he's yeah, he's got his temperature of the 916 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 4: room pretty accurate. Eight years a long time as an 917 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 4: NBA coach in these days, it's very long. He couldn't 918 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 4: pull off with Jerry Sloan pulled off in Utah, but 919 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 4: not many coaches can. So I think, yeah, it's time. 920 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: I think he was you know, he took everything to 921 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 4: account he took the way his voice is being heard, 922 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 4: not being heard as well as it was in power 923 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 4: past year's probably his physical ailment. Just had some hip surgery, 924 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: and yeah, just the way the NBA goes eight years again, 925 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 4: it's yeah. I think it's probably the right decision for 926 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 4: all involved. It sounds like they actually talked about it, 927 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 4: worked it out, and it wasn't just like a rash decision. 928 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: What do you think? 929 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: I would say, I'm a little bit more medium surprised 930 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: than these guys, just because you don't hear a coach 931 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: pull the it's not you, it's me very often in 932 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: the NBA. But there's been a lot of buzz about 933 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: Quinn Snyder potentially leaving the Jazz. The surprising thing to 934 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: me is that there's nowhere really for him to go 935 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 2: right now. Like you guys talked about in the show 936 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: last week, He's not going to be in a rebuilding 937 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: situation like he's been in the NBA for a long time, 938 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: had a lot of regular season success. The next key 939 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: is trying to win a championship. But I guess you'd 940 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: rather take a year off, probably rehab a hip replacement, 941 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: and then come back to somewhere that is just not 942 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: the Jazz because it seemed like a very stressful situation 943 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: there at the end. I kind of wonder if he's 944 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: just waiting out Greg Popovich to see how long he's 945 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: going to be coaching the Spurs, and then he will 946 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: slide in there. I think he used to coach their 947 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: G League team back in the day. Seems to be 948 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: a guy who prefers to create a program rather than 949 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: just like bringing in different star level players, and that's 950 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: what they're gonna do in San Antonio as well. So 951 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at San 952 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 2: Antonio by the beginning of next season, by the beginning 953 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: of the season after that, basically whenever Greg decides to 954 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: hang it up well. 955 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 3: Woja also reported that Donovan Mitchell is surprised and disappointed 956 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: by this news. That's what Snyder is moving on Mitchell. 957 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: This is from Woja considered Snyder a significant part of 958 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 3: his reasoning for committing to a five year maximum contract 959 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: extension in twenty twenty, and then now Snyder's decision to 960 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 3: step away on Sunday has left him again surprised and disappointed. 961 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: He's unnerved, So I want to ask it this way, 962 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 3: How confident are you that Donovan Mitchell is playing for 963 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz next season after you hear these type 964 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 3: of reports. 965 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 4: Well, in the words of Bruce Buffer, time for don 966 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 4: Mitchell to move on. I think it's happening. I think 967 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,959 Speaker 4: he's laying the groundwork to leave. You think so, yes, 968 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 4: So a coach moves on immediately Mitchell's camp talks to 969 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: a very very very well respected reporter and says, I'm 970 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: not feeling good. Why were those those those There's no coincidence, obviously. 971 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 4: I think he's laying a groundwork to say I don't 972 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 4: want to be here. These are two very different scenarios, 973 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 4: Snyder and Mitchell. Snyder's doing what's best for himself, I think, 974 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: and so is Donovan Mitchell. And Mitchell should not be 975 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: surprised that a coach is moving on from eight seasons 976 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: as a head coach when there wasn't a ton of 977 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 4: playoffs success, And he shouldn't be surprised that he's playing 978 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 4: for more than one coach in his career because that 979 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 4: is absolutely common. So I guess that guy that I 980 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 4: talked to at the California Piete's Kitchen that thought Donovan 981 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 4: Mitchell was coming to the Atlanta Hawks. Maybe right. I 982 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 4: think the packages are out there and there's got to 983 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 4: be somebody looking for a superstar superstar. Ys that's an 984 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 4: kind of a gray areas. Donond Mitchell is a superstar anyways, 985 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 4: on that, on that cusp of being a superstar, I 986 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 4: think this is it for dinavand Mitchell sure feels like 987 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 4: he's on his way out. 988 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 3: Do you agree with that? 989 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: I No, I don't think so. I don't think so. 990 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: I think when you get that new coach that's gonna 991 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: be who Then Donovan Mitchell might be like, you know, Okay, 992 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: we've got a veteran, someone with a proven track record. Okay, 993 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: maybe I stick it around here. 994 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 3: But so maybe this report from Welsh from Mitchell's camp is, hey, 995 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 3: I better be involved in picking the new coach. Unless yeah, 996 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: saying not that I disagree, Yeah, more like, well here's 997 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: my good reason to get out of here. 998 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's right. 999 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 3: But he's gone. 1000 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: It would be silly for him to ask for trade 1001 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: until he knows who that coach is. So you know, 1002 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Jazz and you're Danny Age, 1003 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: Danny Ainge is probably going to say, hey, this is 1004 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: who we're thinking. I don't think he's gonna say, hey, Donovan, 1005 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: you okay with this guy. That's not the way Danny 1006 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: Ainge works. So who is that guy though? Who is 1007 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: that coach who can take this very good team, very 1008 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: good on both ends of the floor, good consistent team, 1009 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: star players. The problem with Snight he just it hasn't 1010 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: been able to get them where we expected them to be, 1011 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: which is like contending for a championship. They've always come 1012 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: up short. I don't know who that guy is. 1013 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 3: So if you think Mitchell is more likely to be 1014 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 3: in a Utah Jazz uniform next season, then I assume 1015 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 3: that you think Golbert won't be. Do you think they're 1016 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,439 Speaker 3: both going to be there with a new coach? 1017 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: It depends on who that coach is. What really does 1018 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: because I think that new coach is going to come 1019 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: in and say, Okay, I want to see if I 1020 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: can get them most out of these guys. I want 1021 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: them to try to work together again, because if a 1022 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: coach comes into any situation, you want star talent, and 1023 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: you've got two guys who are All Stars, Defensive Player 1024 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: of the Year candidate in Rudy every year they're young, 1025 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: they're under contract. That's a situation you want to go 1026 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: to where you're like, Okay, I know things didn't work, 1027 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: but I don't want to go in and say, all right, 1028 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: just boot that guy before I've had a chance to 1029 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: even work with them. 1030 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just skeptical that a new coach is going 1031 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 3: to come in here, be it Terry Starts or some 1032 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 3: assistant coach with maybe new ideas, is going to unlock 1033 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 3: something with this Mitchell Golbert Perring that Snyder couldn't end 1034 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 3: how many years, like there's just six, seven years whatever 1035 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 3: it is, like, it's a long time. This isn't a 1036 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 3: one year like Tampton this, Okay, give me another year, 1037 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 3: let's try some. 1038 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: I just but I just think the coach is gonna 1039 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: want to at least have that chance first and again. 1040 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: If you're going to try one of them, you want 1041 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that the guy being traded isn't the 1042 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: guy who's on your team, the best player being traded. 1043 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: You would you know what would be like, Oh man, 1044 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: I was I thought they could have done better if 1045 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: they operated this way or that way. Because a new 1046 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: coach is going to come in and say, let me 1047 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: try my ideas. 1048 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 3: First, what do you think Trey's Donovan Mitchell, especially with 1049 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 3: these wolvesh reports, is he set on the table like 1050 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: Tasa san to like make his way out of. 1051 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,959 Speaker 2: Here surprised and disappointed. To me, definitely feels a little 1052 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: bit like a test balloon for an official trade request. 1053 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 2: But we've seen both of the past two seasons James 1054 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 2: Harden and the end of his tenure in Houston, Ben 1055 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 2: Simmons at the end of his tenure in Philadelphia, teams 1056 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: are getting a little bit more bold, starting with an 1057 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: unhappy star on their team and then figuring out a 1058 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 2: way to trade him during the middle of the season. 1059 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: So I can definitely see a world where the Jazz 1060 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 2: try that with Donovan Mitchell, or like you're saying, Skeets trade, 1061 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: go bar and let Mitchell pick the coach. That's a 1062 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: good way to keep him around that scene. It's like 1063 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: a very player focused move and go Barrier. It's gonna 1064 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: be thirty at the beginning of next season on a 1065 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: gigantic contract, so if you want to rebuild around a 1066 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: younger guy with higher star potential, it's definitely Mitchell. So 1067 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a done deal right that he's gone, 1068 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 2: but it certainly wouldn't be a surprise if he actually 1069 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: does agitate for a trade come the summer. 1070 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 3: Let's talk hypothetical Donovan Mitchell trade packages, especially one it's 1071 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 3: been like making the rounds for a long time. Should 1072 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 3: the Miami Heat go all in in trying to acquire 1073 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell and would the Jazz be open to trading 1074 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 3: Mitchell four something like Tyler Hero, Max Struce, Duncan Robinson, 1075 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 3: maybe a PJ. Tucker or a your seven or something 1076 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 3: like that, and then a late pick in this year's 1077 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 3: draft first round pick, be like twenty seventh and future 1078 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 3: picks twenty twenty four, first round pick, twenty twenty seven, 1079 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 3: first round pick, some sort of deal like that future 1080 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: picks this year's pick, even though it's late, and Tyler 1081 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 3: Hero being the main piece. What do you think from 1082 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 3: both sides? Yeah, you go in on something like that 1083 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 3: and with the Jazz want something. 1084 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: Basically the deal is Mitchell for Hero and picks. The 1085 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: other guys are all just throw ins, so that if 1086 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: the Jazz want the picks, then there's something to talk 1087 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: about there. Because you get the young player and Hero 1088 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: with the star potential. You would need a minimum to 1089 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: first round is coming back from the heat, and you 1090 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: would want pretty much zero protection on those. I mean, 1091 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: the heat wouldn't give them up without probably your top 1092 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: three protection, but you would need more. I think if 1093 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: you're the Jazz right now, I think. 1094 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 3: That's you're hoping to get a better player. I think 1095 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 3: think so yeah, if you are a training man. 1096 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: But now look, if they say, okay, that's great the 1097 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: first picks, then I think they're first round picks. I 1098 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: think they're also then going to say we're going to 1099 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: move on from Rudy and start again as well, because 1100 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: you're going to need completely blow it up young talent. 1101 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: Let's let's start again and really try to cash it. 1102 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 3: Not really the Utah Jazz is No, it's exactly to 1103 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 3: lean into a completely rebuilding. 1104 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: But I think based on what you just said, then 1105 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: that scenario, that's it would tell me the Jazz are 1106 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: looking to the future rather than the present. Sorry, I 1107 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: didn't think they'd do that move. 1108 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: What do you think? 1109 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 4: Well, I think they'd be looking for a young star 1110 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 4: plus a ju juicy draft pick, not a late first 1111 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 4: round draft pick. Does Tyler Herroll fit that definition of 1112 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 4: a young star? I think if you're looking around the 1113 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 4: league probably, and if we're looking at right now, who 1114 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 4: would be willing to trade back a star? I think 1115 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 4: that's probably the best you're going to get. You'd have 1116 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 4: to get a definitely a good pick to go along 1117 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 4: with that. 1118 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, like, who are the other teams 1119 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 3: that could realistically trade for? I mean the Knicks are 1120 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: always linked, but who are they trading that's like better 1121 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 3: than Tyler Hero. 1122 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 4: R J Barrett would be the r J Bart. 1123 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I was considering they wouldn't trade him, but yeah, sure, 1124 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 3: But otherwise it's like Fournier's contract. Okay, put Fournier back 1125 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 3: with Gobert, get the French team going. It's like quickly topping. 1126 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 3: They have picks because they have the Mavericks first round 1127 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 3: pick two, there's picks. But I mean I don't like 1128 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 3: who can't Reddish? I mean, no one I'm naming is 1129 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 3: better than Tyler Hero And if he didn't look all 1130 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 3: that great in the conference finals. 1131 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, you can sell yourself on Tyler. 1132 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 3: And as for the Hawks, who is it John Collins. 1133 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 4: Bogged down Bugdwanno. It's has been rumored, but I think you're. 1134 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: Wow, they got to make that happen. I don't know. 1135 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if all the names we're throwing out here, 1136 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 4: it true feels like Tyler hero is the one that 1137 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 4: you'd be willing to pull the trigger on. I just 1138 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 4: feel like this is a pretty good opportunity for the 1139 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 4: Jazz to blow it up. 1140 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 3: And I know it's easy that you mean both. 1141 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 4: Like really potentially potentially Rudy Gobert's thirty as as Trey said, 1142 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 4: I just don't think Don. The biggest reason is I 1143 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 4: don't think donmd Mitchell is long for Utah. I don't 1144 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 4: think he's gonna stick around there. There's been so much 1145 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 4: smoke for years and years and years pre pandemic that 1146 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 4: these two guys don't get along, and it feels like 1147 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 4: at some point it has to be done. So what's 1148 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 4: the trade package coming back? I think it's Tyler hero 1149 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 4: in this instance that we're talking about is the best option. 1150 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 4: But it has to be a really good pick too. 1151 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 4: I don't think they're pulling it off for Tyler hero 1152 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 4: On at number twenty five. If they want to rebuild, 1153 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 4: If they're trading Domind Mitchell, they're red and so they 1154 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 4: would want a good, good, good. 1155 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 3: Pick Finally, who do you think is going to replace 1156 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 3: Quinn Sander? Who do you think should Does anybody have 1157 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 3: a thought? I mean we have initial candidates. I think 1158 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 3: Charms was reporting Nick's assistant, Johnny Bryant, Jazz assistant Alex Jensen, 1159 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 3: former Blazers coach Terry Starts, Celtics assistant will Hardy, Raptor's 1160 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 3: assistant Adrian Griffin's a few other names floating around out there. 1161 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 3: Any though, I mean, these are like assistant coaches, it's 1162 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 3: really any idea. 1163 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: Of what they're going to be bringing exactly, yes. 1164 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 3: But what direction do you think the jazz girl? 1165 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea for this one, because they 1166 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: had Jerry Sloane forever and then Ty Corbyn came in 1167 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 1: for a while he was basically promoted, and then Snyder 1168 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: was given a really good opportunity, but he was also 1169 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 1: that was his first opportunity as a head coach. Saying 1170 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: with Ty Corbyn, So I think they probably want someone 1171 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 1: who's a bit younger with some fresh ideas, which maybe 1172 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: excludes Terry Stotts because that's kind of where they've gone 1173 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: and they tend to sort of you said there was 1174 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: a jazz assistant in there, Alex Jensen. Yeah, so I 1175 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they do sort of go internally 1176 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: as someone like that, because they like to keep things 1177 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: very steady and very stable there. And if he's been 1178 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: there for a while and familiar with the program, he 1179 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: may have the inside laying there. But I have no idea. 1180 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is tough. 1181 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 2: This is a huge question mark for the Jazz too, 1182 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 2: because they've been a family owned business for a long 1183 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 2: long time and now they've got venture capital money, They've 1184 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 2: got Danny Ainge in the front office, They've got Dwayne 1185 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 2: Wade as a part of their ownership group now. So 1186 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 2: the things that have been true about the Jazz for 1187 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: the past thirty years may not be true for the 1188 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 2: Jazz this off season. 1189 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 4: I agree. I think things could be changing in Utah. Sure, 1190 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 4: it feels like that from the top down. And maybe 1191 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 4: a trader. Danny wants to make some trades, you know, 1192 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 4: unlike what he did in Boston where he sat on it, 1193 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 4: and now he wants to He can't wait to hear 1194 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 4: the offers get a little really and Deally Justin'sannik is 1195 00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 4: also the GM and Danny Ainge is his advisor. But yeah, 1196 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'm just I've 1197 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 4: got the Donovan Mitchell vibes that he wants to be 1198 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 4: out and that they want to move in another direction 1199 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 4: and away from the steady Freddie family owned. Keeping it 1200 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 4: internal feels different right now. 1201 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 3: It is difficult to imagine Danny Age and pat Riley 1202 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 3: coming to an agreement on a deal for Mitchell and 1203 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 3: Tyler Hero if those are the main pieces. I'm sure 1204 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 3: they would talk a lot, but they would both want 1205 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 3: to obviously win the trade, and you could see that 1206 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 3: maybe a stalling out, and who knows, Maybe you're right 1207 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 3: task like it feels like Mitchell doesn't want to be there, 1208 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 3: but maybe he just doesn't want Rudy Gobert there anymore. 1209 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: Possibly the real truth and that they're more likely to 1210 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 3: move him they're going to be I would be shocked 1211 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 3: if both of those guys are still there, no matter 1212 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: who the coach is. But we'll see, Jady really wants 1213 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 3: to get to tweeted the night. So let's take our 1214 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 3: final break and when we come back, we will do 1215 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 3: just that. There you go. Father's Day is like well 1216 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 3: less than two weeks now, right, It's the nineteenth. 1217 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, wow, yeah, what are you getting yourself? 1218 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, snuck up on me. 1219 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 3: Do you hope you ask or get your some Oh yeah. 1220 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll they'll, they'll do something. I thought it was 1221 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: the first Sunday of whatever month. It's it's different. So 1222 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: it's different in England and the story would. 1223 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 3: Have been yesterday. Maybe I thought maybe they were just yeah, 1224 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,240 Speaker 3: maybe American, I should say American fathers down on different 1225 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 3: celebrations going around. 1226 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not until September. 1227 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 3: I think for the Commonwealth, slick down them if they 1228 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 3: are different. It's tune in Canada, Okay, celebrated as much 1229 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 3: as they thought you would. 1230 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: No, I mean every every Sunday's Father's Day. 1231 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 3: Let's get to tweet the night. Finally queued up for 1232 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 3: hours trying to play us off. Last last segment. 1233 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not surprised. JD is pretty keen to get 1234 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: to it tonight because it's the NBA Finals and the 1235 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: great website NBA Twitter account NBA cob webs came up 1236 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 1: with his tweeked over the weekend, talking about the Finals 1237 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: game from nineteen eighty four. Now, I want you to 1238 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 1: watch this clip and tell me if you notice anything 1239 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 1: particular about it. Okay, here it is. 1240 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 3: Having a little sidebar to this series. 1241 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 5: The great actor Jack Nicholson was in the Boston Garden. 1242 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 5: He really stirred that crowd up and then he left early. 1243 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 5: When you know what, he was on the team plane 1244 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 5: with the Celtics coming out to Los Angeles. 1245 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 3: The movie it was Terms of Endearment. 1246 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 5: He won an Academy Award for his part of that movie. 1247 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 5: They got down to the end of it, the critical scenes. 1248 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 5: mL Card took off his headset, threw it down, says, 1249 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 5: I'm not watching the end of your movie. You didn't 1250 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 5: watch the end of our victory. 1251 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: So that was in Los Angeles in the forum there 1252 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: in England in nineteen eighty four. What stood out to you? Then? 1253 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 3: It's Jack smoking. 1254 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: Looking at her, Yeah, having a Duck Courts ship before again. 1255 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 4: I thought he was veping. 1256 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: Wow. I just I mean, can't imagine what it must 1257 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: be like to walk into a an arena and just 1258 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: be smoking cigarettes. It just seems so ancient. Yeah, I mean, 1259 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: he's got a cool style there. 1260 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 3: Like, but do you believe the story that was that 1261 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 3: who was as Berger that? 1262 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:13,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1263 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 3: The story that mlcro turned the movie off with Jack 1264 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 3: on the same fleet back. 1265 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1266 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. I don't know if he want an Oscar 1267 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: for that one, but did he yeah he did, Oh 1268 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: he did say that right now. I was so focused 1269 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: on the cigarette. 1270 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1271 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great Twitter account, Yes, NBA cobwebs. That's 1272 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 3: one of the best out there, especially for old heads 1273 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 3: like you. 1274 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: Mmmm. 1275 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 3: Smoking on aeroplanes, little ashtray, I know. 1276 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: I remember my first big flight. I went to London 1277 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 1: and me and mum were in the last row before 1278 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: the smoking row started, so we're in the non smoking section. 1279 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: The smoking started. I remember, it was like and we 1280 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: had like ten stops to get to London back in 1281 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. There, I remember Mom. 1282 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 4: Just like. 1283 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: The whole way it was like because these people in 1284 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: front of us just smoked non stop wild stuff. 1285 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were in the smoking area, that's right. Yeah. 1286 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: It's like it's like having a non pissing part of 1287 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: the swimming pool for kids. You know, it's like, that's 1288 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: that's where your piss kids. Nowhere else wait that exists, 1289 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean that that's basically. 1290 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 4: Kids shallow yea. 1291 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, man, we talk about how 1292 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 3: you can get away with farting on an airport airplane now, yeah, 1293 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 3: back in the eighties, you can. You can eat all 1294 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 3: the burritos you want. 1295 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 2: You're asking for? Yeah, somebody. 1296 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 4: So. 1297 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 2: In terms of endearment, Shirley McLain and Deborah Winger nominated 1298 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 2: for Best Actress. John let go On Jack Nicholson both 1299 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 2: nominated for Best Supporting Actor A. 1300 00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 3: Movie Stacked Cast Stacked. What's your favorite term of endear men? Wow, babe? 1301 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, what honey? Sugar pop? I know there was sugar 1302 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: pup there for a while. 1303 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 4: I never heard of that. 1304 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 3: All right, let us know in the comment favorite term 1305 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 3: of endearment? Uh, and we'll call it there, I think. Guys. 1306 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 3: Oh wait, do you have any thoughts on the Atlanta 1307 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 3: Dream game we saw yesterday? Tess and I went to 1308 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 3: our first w NBA game yesterday here in Atlanta. 1309 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 4: It was an entertaining game. 1310 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 3: It really was. I mean the game itself was a 1311 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 3: little rough. 1312 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's not what a lot of shot making. 1313 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 3: It was a tough fever having. 1314 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 4: A rough year. They are Tamika Catchings in that front office. 1315 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,439 Speaker 4: They got to get things together there. They're they're they're rough. 1316 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 4: Got some good point guard play I wish we saw 1317 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 4: a little bit more from Howard. She didn't need to 1318 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 4: do much. 1319 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 3: She got going in third, but the rough first. 1320 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 4: Half, Yeah, it was all some nice footwork. She's got 1321 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 4: some nice footwork. 1322 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 3: If you miss uh post up play in the NBA, 1323 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 3: I'll see a lot of it, really. Yeah, right, the 1324 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 3: three ball. Go watch a w n B A game 1325 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 3: they go to work. It's actually really funny, like, oh yeah, 1326 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 3: this used to be like an NBA thing where you 1327 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 3: can just feed it into the big man or the 1328 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 3: big the big woman in this case, and go to 1329 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 3: work and holy crap. It was fun to watch and 1330 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 3: good crowd. 1331 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, the better teams probably don't go the post 1332 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 4: as much. I watched the sky work. They don't need 1333 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 4: to do that. 1334 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. 1335 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,919 Speaker 4: We were AND's making things happen. We had the dream. Yeah, 1336 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 4: coffee in the corner. I loved coffee in the corner. 1337 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 3: It's just good. You gotta get down. I played the 1338 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 3: playing college park by the airport. 1339 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's only take how 1340 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: many with it? 1341 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 3: It's a small venue. I mean, I don't know, five thousand. 1342 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it's fine though, isn't it. 1343 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely fine. Well, it used to play it. That's 1344 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 3: an I guess it was called that. It was cavernous. No, 1345 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 3: it's it's really fun. It's got the vibe of like 1346 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 3: sort of the arena setting. I sent a task like, uh, 1347 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 3: when we go to All Star weekend and they build 1348 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 3: like those sort of like courts in like a convention Yeah, 1349 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 3: it's actually a part of a convention center play, but 1350 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 3: it has that sort of feel to it. Yeah, so 1351 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, it works, and the crowd was 1352 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 3: into it and they're winning the dream with Howard their 1353 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 3: number one pick. Good time, let's go up. Let's get 1354 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 3: the entire crew No Dunks crew to uh to a 1355 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 3: dream game. We should really look into getting court side seats. 1356 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 3: Put my feet right on the floor. They're not crazy. 1357 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 3: It's like I think they're like a one hundred bucks. 1358 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 1: That's what you could puying for a new Allan's Pelicans 1359 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: ticket to this day. Remember a hundred bucks courts. 1360 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 3: And I do remember. Remember we should get out there 1361 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 3: all right, let's call it there. 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You gotta jump 1372 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 4: on merch when it comes out because you never know 1373 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 4: when it's gonna go away. 1374 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Got some Celtics inspired Finals wedging 1375 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 3: gear available at No Ducks dot com. Okay, you guys 1376 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 3: are leaving tomorrow for Boston. But yes, but you're here 1377 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,479 Speaker 3: in the Classic Factory with the with the crew until 1378 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 3: it's right. 1379 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, you're gonna make it in time, HiPE, So. 1380 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Don't have to do a quick show. You have time 1381 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 3: to get your pizza. 1382 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Well, yes, hopefully. 1383 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 3: There's no rules in an airport, as Trey always says, 1384 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 3: that's right. 1385 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna eat a big old Chipotle boreas huge, 1386 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 2: the biggest one they can make you better. 1387 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 3: Hope they can smoke on that. 1388 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy a pack. 1389 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 4: You gotta buy a car. I can't buy a. 1390 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 3: Well until tomorrow here in the Classic Factory. You guys, 1391 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 3: have a great day. Clipper bros. 1392 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1393 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome. 1394 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember here's a little bit 1395 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 4: of a callback on a callback. We talked about Chuck 1396 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 4: D's tweet about Draymond Green. It's like he's putting his 1397 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 4: head in the lion's mouth. Nine times out of ten. 1398 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 4: What is the lion gonna do? But maybe Draymond Green 1399 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 4: watched our show on Friday where we were talking about 1400 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 4: the potions that you could take the options, never need 1401 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,439 Speaker 4: sleep and speak every language. All felines like you upon 1402 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 4: meeting you. Maybe Draymond Green has had that potion and 1403 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 4: the line will never bite. It's a cool story. 1404 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 3: I was wondering how you're gonna get there, and you 1405 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 3: got there by man. 1406 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 4: I drove what I got there, drove my mack truck. 1407 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 3: Praise the day people,