1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, listen to my voice. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of screaming for NBA reasons we 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: can only find out. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: But the playing is upon us as the regular season. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Oh you know, I always use well used maxims and 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: colloquialisms on this podcast. But anyway, the regular seasons wrapped 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: up over the weekend. Jack Sixers ended the year on 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: eight no run. Meanwhile, the Knicks and Thunder each end 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: of their respective seasons on a five game role. And 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna get into the playing and potential playoff matchups 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: and more with longtime NBA writer and editor Harrison Fagan 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: and this is dot chich Sorry, got it looka dot 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: chic hitch tes. 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, there's your go be driving spinning. Got it with five? 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Is gonna try another? 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: Three? 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Mister? Look God, James Ynest, look, tell no show time 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: what you got? 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: Yes, And it's the most wonderful time of the year. Yeah, 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: I mean spring eternal for approximately sixty more minutes. I 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: know for the seventy six ers. We're gonna do it 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: this year again to break Jack breaks in eight games. Yeah, 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: so we're recording this. This is a Schrodegger's cat of 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: an episode. We're recording this before the first playing game. 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: Y'all know better than we do what happened, what's going 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: to happen? 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, but no, you don't know what if our 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: what if our predictions are really correct? Yeah, I mean 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: we might know better than them. 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: Three And who better knows than our guest, Harrison Fagan, 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: sc Nation, NBA editor, co host of Lakers Lounge, and 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: co host of Rewinder Reconsider Harrison Fagan, thank you for 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: joining us today. What an appropriate time for you to 35 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: join us, because you know, people saw what you your 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: words about the Lakers their postseason. You know what their 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: options might be, what things may look like. There's a 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: bit of pain, you know, around here in the Mad 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Boosti's office, And by that I mean me looking at 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: my phone being. 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Like, he's right, but don't say this. Don't say it, 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: you just lose. 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: So, yeah, Harrison, you wrote an article saying what I thought, 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: and I think said to Miles and Jabbari that yeah, no, 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: you guys should duck the Nuggets, like, get out. 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: Right, throw the game, don't don't win, don't don't beat 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: the Pellant. Don't don't make that your problem. 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: Don't win. Granted, I do have a loser mentality. I 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: am a Philadelphia seventy six Ers fan, so I'm just 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: like winning. What are y'all doing? 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Trust me, Lea's nowhere. Yeah, But at the. 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: Same time, it just does seem to be the wise 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: charsh is. 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: To not go up against the team that has all 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: of our numbers constantly. 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: Look, I only disagree because, like I said, I live 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: in a different kind of reality, one that is not 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: tethered to the reality in which the Lakers will actually 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: be playing basketball. So that's why I choose to say, 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: you know what, no, bring them, bring them to me now. 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. But as I crashed back down to Earth, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know, 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: There's also the point that you guys might not be 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: the Kings because the Kings also had your number, and 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: you might just be out of the playoffs, and that 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: will be a very embarrassing way to go. 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: Demontis the Bonus has has just learned all of AD's moves, 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: and he's like, you present no challenge to me, And yeah, 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: that's also fright, So all bad options, I would say. 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: For the Lakers. So we don't know what has happened. 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Harrison, I have to ask you, like, if let's let's 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: game this out. Okay, let's say we we duck the Nuggets. 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: Do you think someone is going to make it easy? 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: Like you said this, This is also the tweet that 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't read the article that you 78 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: treated quote. If the Lakers truly feel that any outcome 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: besides a championship is a failure, they should do their 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: best to give themselves the clearest possible path by throwing 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Tuesday's playing game. Is there any in this version right 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: where there somehow is a path? And like we I 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: feel like it's an inevitability that if there's any way 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: to any kind of championship, you're gonna have to face 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: the Nuggets. 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: I mean that is probably true, but the odds of 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: facing them are lower the longer you go without facing them. 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: You know, like mathematically, you know, if you win this 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: game against the Pelicans and you're playing the Nuggets, then 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: you're guaranteed to play the Nuggets, Whereas if you get 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: to the other side of the bracket of them, you 92 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: have two rounds where you're not playing the Nuggets, and 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: theoretically some other team could beat the Nuggets, where the 94 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Nuggets could suffer you know, like an unfortunate injury. Again, 95 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: like no one's rooting for injuries, But this kind of 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: stuff happens throughout the playoffs. We've seen it, you know, 97 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: like every every year some can hope fork tender gets 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: banged up or takes like an ill timed ankle turn, 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: or you know, has something happen or whatever. And so 100 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: the longer you can go without playing the team that 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: you have the least chance to beat, the further you 102 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: know you're, the better your odds are. And you know, 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: maybe the Timberwolves knock off the Nuggets. I wouldn't pick 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: them in that series necessarily, but if someone is going 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: to do it, then you know, maybe it's them in 106 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: the second rolf and yeah, and then you know, against 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves, you you have a better chance. I mean, 108 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves haven't beaten you eight times in a row 109 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: at the very least. And so you know, again we're 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: dealing with like like it's a matter of percentages. I'm 111 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: not saying, you know, the Lakers, the Lakers roll down 112 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: and die because you're scared, right, No, I get yeah, exactly. Well. 113 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people ask me all the time. 114 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: They're like, Harrison, why are you not a professional athlete? 115 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, really, the only reason is 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: that I'm a coward, you know. And that's the only 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: difference between me and Lebron is that I would duck 118 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: the smoke and I would just be like, Hey, let's 119 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: rest Ad. His back's hurting. Yeah, you know, we'll rest him. 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: Get ready for Thursday's playing game. Let the Warriors and 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: Kings beat each other up and then either beat what 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: remains of the Kings, who have lost like two of 123 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: their best guards already, or a Warriors team that you've 124 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: shown you can beat in a postseason environment. You have 125 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: not shown that with the Nuggets, who it's like the 126 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: same movie every single time you play. I know, It's 127 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: like in this tight game right down the stretch and 128 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: the Nuggets, you know, go on like a twelve zero 129 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: run to finish it out because they just know what 130 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: buttons to push against this Lakers team, and the Lakers 131 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: just don't seem to have a lot of options on 132 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: this roster to you know, deal with them, like they've 133 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: thrown most of the adjustments that I feel like they 134 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: could throw at them. Now. Again, Darvin Ham makes a 135 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: lot more money than me. Those coaches probably make a 136 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: lot more money than me. Maybe they have some ideas, 137 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: but for me, it's all about you know, how far 138 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: can you go without taking them on, and you know, 139 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: maybe there's a chance somebody else takes them out and 140 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: then you have a better chance against that team, because 141 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: you probably have a better chance against any team that 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: is not them. But yeah, I'm not saying like, hey, 143 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: they lose this game, they play the Thunder, that's gonna 144 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: be easy. They're gonna sweep them or something. 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: No, No, but we have shown we can compete against 146 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: the Thunder. 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: They've shown that it is possible for them to be 148 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: the Thunder. They've shown they could beat you know, the 149 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Clippers or the MAVs or whoever. And you know you 150 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: at least have like a chance against them and against 151 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the healthy Nuggets squad, Like, I just don't see it 152 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: for these Lakers. 153 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the two worst matchups for the Lakers are the 154 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: Nuggets and the King the Kings, and you kind of 155 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: have both of them waiting for you. 156 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: It's like urger and bunker out. They're a different team 157 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: than the one that beat the Lakers all those times. 158 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: So theoretically, you know, you could talk yourself into that. 159 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: That's but like with the Nuggets, they have all their guys, 160 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: they're ready to go. Like, I just not seeing it 161 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: in that matchup the Kings, I can at least talk 162 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: myself into it. 163 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: I think it would be really embarrassing to lose on 164 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: purpose and then knocked up. 165 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Exactly among the reasons that they will not do it 166 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: that is exactably. Chief among them is that, you know, 167 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: every NBA team I think mainly makes decisions on what 168 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: will get us roasted the most online, and you know 169 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, but like, you know, no, we got 170 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: to at least try because if we just sit the 171 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: starters in this playing game, then yeah, everybody's gonna be 172 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: really mean on Twitter. Yeah. 173 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: So, uh, you know, it didn't stop the Cavs, didn't 174 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: stop the Calves from you know, ducking whoever they were 175 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: scared of, you know, the heat to heat the Sixers. 176 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: Nobody knows the Sixers. 177 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: That's wild that they're scared of the Sixers, but nobody. 178 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: Give you a little confidence you're like, oh wow, like, 179 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: oh well, well, you know, the Calves of all teams 180 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: would feel like they have a shot against the Sixers 181 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: because of like the two big thing, like that's you know, 182 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: theoretically you would think that's one of the teams they have, 183 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: like I mean, maybe not a better shot. 184 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you'd rather I guess play the Magic who's less proven. 185 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: But right, yeah, but they're obviously they're the least online 186 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: NBA team. We just figured that out. The cat the 187 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Calves there, like you know, all the BA players, all coaches, 188 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: they're like, we don't care what the media, you idiots 189 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: in the media have to say. The Calves truly do 190 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: not care. They prove they're like have you seen how. 191 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah you know anything about the narratives or like, uh 192 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: like the metrics. 193 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: They're just like if. 194 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: You see how big and beat is that guy one 195 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: MVP last year, I don't want that got get away 196 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: from that guy. 197 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: So, you know, so and so was saying on the 198 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: so and so podcast that you guys are clown fraud 199 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: cowards for ducking the Sixers and or Heat, and they're like, 200 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: what do you mean, what's. 201 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 3: A podcast yet that is the radio Cleveland. 202 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man. 203 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: But like I think, for me, it all goes it 204 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: boils down to the fact, I think because the Lakers, 205 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: this was all self created. We we did this to 206 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: ourselves to be in the position we're in, you know 207 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like and when you when you see 208 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: how the insistence of playing players like Cam Reddish or 209 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: Torrian Prints have put us over RUI and I get 210 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: it ruly was hurt, you know, here and there. But 211 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: when you look at what that record looks like and say, oh, yeah, 212 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: that was our starting five from Jump Street, maybe we 213 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: would be you know, organically ducking the Nuggets already because 214 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: we could have been maybe the fourth seats for the 215 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: fourth seat. 216 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: So I will just say generally, now this is not 217 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: always the case, but generally, benching like three of your 218 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: top five highest players is not like a great allocation 219 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: of resources. Yeah, you know, I will say, And so, hey, 220 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: what do we know we're not Darvinham? You know, yeah exactly. 221 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: But you know that part seems like even as a coach, 222 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, who who we pay them? 223 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 224 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we should play them? No, No, And you know, 225 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: they've been like what like twenty and eight since they 226 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: went to the New starting lineup or whatever it is, 227 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: like they're actually you know, yeah, so I mean you're 228 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: exactly right. Is that the Lakers. That's the crazy thing 229 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: about this whole debate and whatever it created. Yah, Lakers 230 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: didn't have to be here. They didn't have to be 231 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: in this situation. 232 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: So it'll be poetic. I think the version that will 233 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: cause me the most distressed is something like we end 234 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: up having to face the Nuggets and just through note 235 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: something happens to the Nuggets and like they'll defeat us 236 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: in the series, but they're somehow diminished a bit from 237 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: the series against us, and we're. 238 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: Like, we just helped the league. The rest of the 239 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: league right now because one of their starters is out, maybe'd. 240 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: Bump on the road to history. Yeah, Los Angeles Lakers, 241 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: We're proud. 242 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Yes forever. Yeah. 243 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: Those were because we're a banana skin, that's all. We got, 244 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: those yellow jerseys, Odoyle. 245 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Rules, sick reference. 246 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: Let's should we take a quick break and come back 247 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: and just talk take a step back. Obviously, the only 248 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: thing that really matters is what the Lakers do. But uh, 249 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: we're going to take a step back and just look 250 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: at the league in general. What narratives do we think 251 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: are being underrated heading in to the most wonderful time 252 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: of the year. 253 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: If you're singing that too closely, we will get a 254 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: content strike you know. Wait, wait, that's YouTube a little 255 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: more off key. 256 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the most full time of the year. 257 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: No, now the Simpsons can come that teenager character. 258 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Well, you're right back, and we're back. 259 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: So the other matchups, yes, besides the one that we 260 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: don't even know if it's going to happen that we. 261 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: Spend a stress in my neighborhood. 262 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolves Sons. Sons went three and I against the 263 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: Wolves this season. The Suns started rounding into shape looking 264 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: pretty good heading into the end of the season. Wolves 265 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: ended up as the three seed, Sons is six. I 266 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: truly don't know what's going to happen because the Sons 267 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: have been so kind of unpredictable. I'm unsure. I think 268 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: this could go in either direction. Would love to see 269 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards have a great series. Would also like to 270 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: see the Suns pull it out so that we continue 271 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: to get to see KD in the playoffs, like kind 272 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: of towards the end of the run. I'm a sucker 273 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: for a super team man, even if super team is 274 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: in quote, I'd like to see the Sons win this. 275 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: I don't know who's going to win it, do you do? 276 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: You have an instinct, Harrison. 277 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: You know it is. It's gonna be a fascinating stylistic 278 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: clash up, you know, between sort of you have like 279 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Hooper Oasis in the desert. You know, it's just like 280 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that just kind of like they 281 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: all get buckets versus you know, the sort of analytics 282 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: Darling's Rudy Gobert, you know, like Nerd team. And you know, 283 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm I actually do think that the Suns have a 284 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: chance because they are, you know, theoretically the type of 285 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: team that could you know, like Minnesota's defense is really 286 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: sort of predicated on giving up the types of mid 287 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: range shots that you know, like KD and all those 288 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: guys have made basically their whole careers on taking and 289 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: making and so theoretically, you know, like they should have 290 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: some advantages. And you know, but I mean, it's hard 291 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to pick a six seed to win. But you know, 292 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, given what you just said about the 293 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: season record, and you know, I think I don't know, 294 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: like the Suns have been so underwhelming in so many moments, 295 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: but this year. But I do think that, you know, 296 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: if they're all healthy, I like their chances at the 297 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: very least. Yeah, for sure. It's just hard for me 298 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: to pick Rudy Gobert in a playoff series. I'm sorry. Like, 299 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: I just saw stat today that he has more Defensive 300 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Player of the Year awards than playoff series wins. It's wow, 301 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: or he will whin he wins this year, maybe right right, right, Yeah, 302 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: that's not a great stat to have that. 303 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: Someone on Reddit was posting something about how like with 304 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, you know, he said KD is his goat, 305 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: and he said Beale is the hardest to cover, so 306 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: he's like might have his work cut out for him. 307 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: A quote about like, yeah they got KD, but we 308 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: got Jaden McDaniels exactly. That is he doing bits, No, 309 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I think he I think his point was that like 310 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Jayden McDaniels would guard KD. I don't think that he 311 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: meant like he is as good as him. But out 312 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: of all I saw was the out of context version, 313 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: and that was hilarious, And I hope that he was 314 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: arguing that those were equal players in NBA history, not 315 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: even just like he was. 316 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: Just looking around the locker room and named the first 317 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: leave Jaden Jaden McDaniels, Jaden turn around, buddy, Yeah McDaniels. 318 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: That's what it says on the back of his jersey. 319 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: All right. 320 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: This next series, I'm very fascinated by Clippers MAVs. Clippers 321 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: went to them one in the series the season. They 322 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: haven't played since December, though, so Dallas got a lot 323 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: better at the deadline and went eighteen and seven over 324 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: the last twenty five games. They see every A lot 325 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: of people are on Dallas right now. They're like, these 326 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: guys look great, They're playing well together. They seem to 327 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: be having fun out there. One thing, I bring it 328 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: up all the time, but I just don't want to forget, 329 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: and I feel like people are forgetting this is one 330 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: of the players I think people are sleeping on heading 331 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: into the playoffs when when healthy, Kawhi Leonard does tend 332 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: to lock in in the playoffs. And last year, in 333 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: the first game and a half of the playoffs was 334 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: the that was the story that at least that I 335 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: was paying attention to, was like, oh, Kawhi Leonard is 336 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: the best player in the league. 337 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: Again, we just like lost track of that. 338 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: And he's actually the best player in the league. He 339 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: was so good in that first game and a half 340 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: before he got hurt. 341 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: If he's able to stay healthy, incredible seventy two minutes 342 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: that will live forever in NBA history, you know, memorable. Memorable, 343 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Well it's He's also been good in past year's playoffs also, 344 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: So no, I don't a playoff riser, for sure. He 345 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: is the guy that definitely has You know, the real 346 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: stars are the guys who can kind of it's a cliche, 347 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: but the guys who can raise their game up a level. 348 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: And you know, there have been those guys throughout NBA history, 349 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: like you could see Lebron sort of, you know, take 350 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: that extra step every postseason, no matter how old he gets. 351 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: Like Kawhi is clearly one of those guys that has 352 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: that extra gear that he can activate when the games 353 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: really really matter. So I would still pick the MAVs 354 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: if I had to pick in this series, just because 355 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: it was funny. You mentioned the Clippers. You said they 356 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: hadn't played since December, and you meant against the MAVs. 357 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: But for a second, I was like, oh, it's keep 358 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: doing a joke. About like they have not they have 359 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: not played real basketball right in December. I'm like a 360 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: good one, you know, and they just look discombobulated. James 361 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: Harden doesn't really look like himself. I you know, also 362 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: riser why it. 363 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: Might be back if memory serves James Harden also a 364 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: playoff riser, so legend. 365 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't google it. He always takes up a 366 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: next step Google's line. Whatever you see, that's a lie. 367 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: And now we're I just read Tyler was saying Kawhi 368 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: is doing about a quarter of practice and then ramping it. 369 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: Up to hopefully does not even mean I don't know, 370 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: like I guess after I didn't even realize it was hurt. 371 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: All right, never mind, Uh, Brian the editor cut my 372 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: whole thing about how good Kawhi is. 373 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: Uh, well, he might be back. They don't, you know. 374 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: They think they're just saying they a full medalsa And 375 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: they've been saying like, we think he's gonna miss like 376 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: two or three games for like basically like two or 377 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: three weeks now, and he's missed eight games. 378 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: Uh, and so you know he did in an optimistic sign, 379 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: he did just commit to play for the Olympic team. 380 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: So you would think it's not like a major injury 381 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: that he thinks is going to sideline him months, and 382 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: it really is this sort of more day to day thing. 383 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: But the Clippers certainly have not like earned the benefit 384 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: of the doubt with that, after they said Kuhi was 385 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: day to day last year and then after the series 386 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, yeah, he tore his I mean it's 387 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: something in his knee. I don't know it was in 388 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: this guss or a cl it was one of them. 389 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: And flammation you do have to use an abbreviation when 390 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: it's an injury that is so common with this player 391 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: that where they're calling it knee inflammation. 392 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: All right, So. 393 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 3: Forget my whole thing about how good the Clippers are 394 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: going to be. 395 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: Let's I mean that too is like you know, the 396 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook of it all, Like yeah, depending on how 397 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: they match up, I'm like, what, which which one are 398 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: we going to get? Because that's somebody who really has 399 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: to come to play man being on Kyrie. 400 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the qui if Kauai is healthy or if Kui 401 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: like plays, I think that is an advantage his ability 402 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: to ride. I also think they have the coaching advantage 403 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: by a significant margin. And I do think the rust 404 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: thing matters like that, if like Russ really is like 405 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: an off speed pitch, he's just he's the he's the 406 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: pulp fishing shot of adrenaline in the heart. That. 407 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't know. 408 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: I think I'm both pulling for and kind kind of 409 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: have a feeling about the Clippers, And I could be 410 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: exactly wrong. 411 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: We'll see, should we should we go for the record? 412 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Miles, Jack, do you have a pick? 413 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Oh? Pray for the downfall of my enemies on a 414 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: nightly basis? Okay, all right? Yeah, yeah, No? Why did 415 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: I have to ask? 416 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: Doesn't off my Mike Finley Mavericks jersey that I got 417 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: into sophomore year high school to throw that thing on? Yeah? 418 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: All right? Uh. In the Eastern Conference, the Knicks messed around, 419 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: climbed into the two seed in the East with a 420 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 3: little hell from the Cavs. Jalen Bronson just all season 421 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: has been unbelievable, probably going to be in the. 422 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: Do we think he's going to be top five MVP voting? 423 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: Like it seems like it based on sort of the 424 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: public ballots that have come out so far and sort 425 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: of the top like he's probably. It seems like he's 426 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna be fifth on a lot of ballots, but I 427 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: think he is going to be the fifth guy. Yeah, 428 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Og returning at the right time. 429 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: They're like, I don't think they're undefeated with Og, but 430 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: their record is like wild. 431 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: It's insanely good. 432 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, unbelievable. Uh and yeah, he like with him, 433 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: they're really hard to beat. That does you know if 434 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: the if the Sixers are able to get a win tonight, 435 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: that does appear to be who they're playing. If the 436 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: Sixers are not able to get a win. 437 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: They're twenty and three with Og. Twenty and three. And 438 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: I heard a stat the other day that Og has 439 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: not had a negative plus minus game the entire season, 440 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: which is sort of a you know, because that is 441 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: like a team based a lot of the time. Yeah, 442 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, like you're just going to be on the 443 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: floor when like somebody else on your team misses a 444 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: bunch of shots and you just are negative. But I 445 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: mean that's crazy. 446 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: You know, by this point, we know what happened between 447 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: the Sixers and the Heat. I just want to say, 448 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: like I've read a lot of playoff content, I've listened 449 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: to some playoff preview podcasts. It feels like people are 450 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: doing like the Heat last year. I just want to 451 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: like reiterate, at this time last year, the Heat were 452 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: in the same position, yeah, or very similar position. 453 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: They didn't. 454 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: People are like, yeah, but this year, like they're not 455 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: even putting it together. 456 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: They're not. 457 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: Last year, they were not good until the second half 458 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: of the second play in game. They lost the first 459 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: playing game. They they were losing by a point to 460 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: the Bulls heading into the fourth quarter of the set 461 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: playing game. They didn't decide to take it up three 462 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: levels until like the playoffs starts. It doesn't make sense 463 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: that they would decide to do that again. I just 464 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: want to remember, like again, like people are like, yeah, 465 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: but Butler this year is different. It's like he was 466 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: different last year in the regular season too. Everybody was 467 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: saying the exact same thing. I don't expect it to 468 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: happen because when it happened last year was like that, well, 469 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: this is a literal miracle. Like I I've never seen 470 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: anything anyone just decide to be way better. But he 471 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: was able to do it last year. If they're able 472 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: to get the seventh seed, I could see them doing 473 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: it again this year. I don't know, it's I also 474 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 3: feel like Nick runs heat. 475 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: Those two specific teams would set basketball back, like at 476 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: least scoring, it would set it for decades. We'd be 477 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: getting like like final scores of like fifty nine to 478 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: fifty seven in a playoff game. You know. 479 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and when in doubt, I always like Brunson is 480 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: always good for a rounder too, better than I'm expecting, 481 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: like back to when he was with the MAVs, and 482 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 3: you know last year with the Knicks, Like he's really great. 483 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: In the play He's a playoff riser as well. 484 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: And so I I don't know, I think the Knicks 485 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: are probably gonna win no matter who they're facing. But 486 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: it's I just it's like listening to like the Bills 487 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: on Bill Simmons podcast, He's just like not scared of 488 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: the heat at all. He's like, I'd love to play 489 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: the heat. That's fine, please, who cares? Just like that 490 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: because Jimmy Butler has been bad all season. I'm just like, yeah, man, 491 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: like what we did this last year, Like it's in. 492 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: The Simpsons scene of like how many times the Celtics 493 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: fans have to step on the rake, you know, exactly 494 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: like we did. 495 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: It Bucks Pacers is also going to be interesting. Yeah, 496 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: Jianness Listen is doubtful heading into Game one due to 497 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: a cast strain. Cast strains are very tricky injuries. We 498 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: saw that be the injury leading into KD having an 499 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: achilles like a few years back, right, like it's you 500 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: just incredibly Yeah, did you feel. 501 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: The whole thing go up your the back of your 502 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: leg Like a lot of people say that happens, And 503 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's scary. 504 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: It's just like it really couldn't have gone Like the 505 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: last month of the season couldn't have gone worse for 506 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: the Bucks. 507 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: Like it's really not good. Really, the second half of 508 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: the season couldn't have gone worse for the Bucks. You 509 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: got that Doc Rivers was going to finish the year. 510 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: He took over the team when they were like thirty 511 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: and like twelve or something, and he finished the year 512 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: with a with a below five hundred record. Yeah, he 513 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't ask to come in. He didn't ask to come in. 514 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: He would not have wished that situation on his worst enemy, 515 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, right exactly. And yeah, and the bus driver too, 516 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: the bull, little class, the equipment manager. It's crazy, he 517 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: just leaves the laundry out all over the floor, like 518 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: it's not even It's just I feel like I'm at 519 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: home with my teenage kids. I did start to wonder 520 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: after the second stray that the equipment manager took this year. 521 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, is this guy actually just like doing 522 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: a fat job like that? One needs to look into this, Like, yeah, 523 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: Doc and Joannis both bringing up specifically the equipment manager. 524 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: I have some questions now, right, Yeah, there's an agenda. 525 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: There's an agenda. 526 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, cause I saw it on the more 527 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: cynical end, it's that Giannis might not be ready till 528 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: Game two or three. 529 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: And then Woach said today that they're preparing to start 530 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: the series without him at least. Yeah, yeah, no, he's 531 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: not going to be there for Game one. Yeah, get them. 532 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: At least one of the betting sites had to like 533 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: change the odds for the series because so many people 534 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: were coming in on the Pacers after that, so yeah, wow, yeah. 535 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 3: And there there's also people like speculating about Dame's future 536 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: in Milwaukee if they lose early. 537 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: It's just a bat. 538 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: It's like it really could have gone much worse this season. Unfortunately. 539 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited for the generational blame deflection that we're going 540 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: to get whenever this Bucks run ends, because you got Dame, 541 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: you got Doc Jannis, Like an underrated sort of blame 542 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: deflector like all these guys seeing who's going to point 543 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: the finger at? Who is going to be incredible? Wait 544 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: to watch it? Yeah, it's going to be three Spider 545 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: Man meme. Yeah, just like pointing to just everyone, like 546 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: what do you mean we failed? We reached the Elite 547 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: eight of the NBA in college, Like this is help. 548 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand how you're emotion failure. Yeah, we did 549 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: better than last year. It's about steps the success. We 550 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: got out of the first round in a seven game 551 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: series against the Pacers and then we lost in the 552 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: second round. That's that's progress exactly exactly what. 553 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: What storyline do you think is being underrated on either 554 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: side of the east to the west. Where what do 555 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: you think is we're going to see heading in If 556 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: you had to guess last year, obviously it was the heat, 557 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, I don't know how many people were 558 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: predicting that, But what you had to guess a like 559 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 3: underrated storyline we're going to be talking about heading into 560 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: let's say the Conference Finals. 561 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: What do you think it is? I mean, I think, 562 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: to be honest, and this hurts me in my heart 563 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: to say, but I think that people maybe are not 564 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: giving like the Celtics enough do just because they don't 565 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: have that kind of one exemplary player who's going to 566 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: be an MVP. They may not get a first team 567 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: All NBA guy. They might, but like they have probably 568 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: the Again as a Lakers fan, this is causing me 569 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: physical paint, but they have the best starting five in 570 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: basketball right now, and they've been really good all year 571 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: and they're probably not going to get like a great 572 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: opponent coming out of the play in. I mean, you know, 573 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: again it's possible it's the heat and the heat like 574 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, pull off sort of their like dark magic 575 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: again and just like sort of Jimmy Butler, he's like, oh, 576 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: it's spring time for me to become Michael Jordan again 577 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and just like knocks them out of the playoffs. But like, 578 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I think that the Celtics may be sort of getting 579 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot of rest between these series in some cases, 580 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not sure that you know, just 581 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: because of how bad the bottom of the East is, 582 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Like it seems like they are gonna sort of sweep 583 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: through all the way to the finals, you know. To 584 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: be honest, I would be sort of surprised if they 585 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: lost more than like two or three games right now. 586 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: So the Sixers did go eight note to end the season, 587 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: do you want to take that over again talking about 588 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: how bad the bottom of the East is. 589 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: And also I cannot confirm or deny if I'm trying 590 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: to reverse jinks to the Celtics right now, so I 591 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: will say, think they're unbeatable, no one can take them out. 592 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Prove me wrong that you want to if you're then 593 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: let the Heat beat the Celtics. I don't know. I'm 594 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: the only thing right. 595 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: Now openly, I openly admit to be rooting and heading 596 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: into these playoffs, I'm rooting for the field. It's like 597 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: Celtics versus the field. I'm just rooting for the field. 598 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: The only thing that's giving me hope is all those 599 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: like advanced stats that are like they're the best team ever. 600 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: The thing they all point out though, is that they 601 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: are the best team ever, but they don't have a player, 602 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: like a single player that is like good enough to 603 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: be like up held up with like those Jordan teams 604 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: with like any any of those teams, and that is 605 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: usually a problem at some point in the NBA playoffs 606 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: because you need to have someone who is a walking, 607 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: talking bucket, and that's been a problem for them in 608 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: the regular season, like Tatum in crunch time has not 609 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: been able to just like take the team on his back. 610 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that that is what we see derail them, 611 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: And yes, that would be you know, yeah. 612 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, that's just been an issue. 613 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: They can't they can't just be like all right, man, 614 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: like we're all tired and a little bit scared. It's 615 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: the end of the game and now it's Jason time. 616 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: It just it doesn't work with the mask point. Yeah, yeah, 617 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: I mean Grant Williams tried to put the mask on 618 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: and he was like, well, what what are you doing? 619 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: You know, So like that's how averse he is to 620 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: the superhero mask. 621 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: It's like, it's my team, let's go. You know, I'm 622 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna trash talk Jimmy Butler O. 623 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: Wait then, oh man, what a run. That was so 624 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: fun when he Yeah, last year. 625 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: It is sort of incredible how many guys the Grant 626 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: Williams has made mad. It's like every single NBA player interview. 627 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: You know that. I thought, like another I saw like 628 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the MAVs were coming out and blasting him, and like, 629 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's just yeah, it's it's amazing. He really 630 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: has gotten under the entire league skin. Yeah, not easy 631 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: to do. Impressive. 632 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's uh, let's take a quick break and 633 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: when we come back. Oh man, you're in trouble. I 634 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: got I gotta say, Harrison, you are wandering into a shootout. Uh, 635 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: it's the rapid fire around a question. 636 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, We're back. You're saying, 637 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm walking into a disadvantageous situation. Can I just can 638 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: I theoretically tank it and then get a better match 639 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: up down the line, like technically you you know, technically coward? 640 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: Or ready said you were right, Yeah. 641 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah diagnosed, Yeah yeah yeah you can't totally yeah, 642 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: totally can you totally can't, but don't we don't like 643 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that up top, but between. 644 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: As the doctor is handing you to your mother after 645 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: your your birth, they were like, uh, sorry, it's a coward. 646 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: I've never been a baby this much, ma'am. 647 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: Wow, he looks so scared Oh my god, this. 648 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: One. 649 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's anyway, well, hey, your problem not well, but 650 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: Harrison faking. 651 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: He's right. It's time for a rapid fire round of questioning. 652 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the fastest question answer segment in sports 653 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: podcasting history. 654 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna ask you a question. Don't take too much time. 655 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: Let's keep the pace up, and if you do take too. 656 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: Much time, we will be so rude to you that 657 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: you will have no choice but to not be confrontational 658 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: about it. 659 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. You know, I don't think you 660 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: could be ruder to me than the Internet has been 661 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: in the last forty eight hours. That's true, that's true. 662 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you're a journalist who said something real to 663 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: the to Laker fans and trust. 664 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: Magic critics rights are saying that they should throw this game. 665 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like feel good so being critics. Yeah yeah, yeah, 666 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean people got mad at Jesus too. 667 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's just like there, it is, there it is, 668 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: and maybe they will heed your advice. 669 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: Have you seen the reviews for this year's Lakers. They're 670 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: like at a seventy three on rutten tomatoes. 671 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: Seventy three is not bad. 672 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I'll take that I'll take that because most 673 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: of them they're so cynical on there, you know, yeah, 674 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. 675 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: Well here Wayne Gerard Butler's plane. 676 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: You want to go first? Or should I go first? 677 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: Why don't you go first? 678 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: Jack? 679 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: You want me to go first? Yeah, Harrison, we see that. 680 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: There's a BB one figuring behind you. My eight year old, 681 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: my soon to be eight year old, is a. 682 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Star Wars obsessive. 683 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm taking him to the Skywalker Saga marathon only Star 684 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: Wars film. He hasn't seen his episode three because it's 685 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 3: a little a little heavy, you know, children being swater. 686 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: But he knows about order sixty six. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 687 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: I got like he he knows all the lower he 688 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: knows like the stats. But as as a Star Wars film, 689 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: so many how many young links. I'm a little worried 690 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: about your He's all about putting up. He's all about 691 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: stats and like, how how many gunners? You think this 692 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: has wrong? 693 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: That? 694 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: Dad? 695 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: Wow? Do you like? 696 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 3: He really is like that doesn't understand how I'm not 697 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: more obsessed with stars, but I'm just curious, what's your 698 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 3: favorite Star Wars film? 699 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: Uh? I mean this is cliche, but Empire Strikes Back. 700 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: I do think it's the best movie of all of. 701 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,479 Speaker 3: Them, most underrated Star Wars film. 702 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's even episode three anymore, because 703 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that used to be the answer, but 704 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: now I guess I'll say I guess I'll say the 705 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Last Jedi, just because it's like so critically panned and 706 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: so many people get so mad about it, and I 707 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: actually think that there's like a good movie in there 708 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: if you sort of cut down the length of it 709 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: and like the b plot where like Finn is basically 710 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: doing nothing for like an hour of the movie and 711 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Casino good interesting ideas in that movie. And you know, 712 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: I think it could have been better. Yeah right, I agree. Okkay, 713 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: next question. 714 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for answering that on our NBA podcast. 715 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, next question, and sorry, I gotta have to take 716 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 2: it back to the NBA. Jack Harrison h what color 717 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: kyber crystal would you use to color your lightsaber blade? 718 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: Well, I you know I can actually answer that because 719 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: I have on well you can't see it on this 720 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: but I have them displayed in my office, the one 721 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: that I made at Disneyland, and it's okay, I got 722 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: another I mean true Laker fan more so. But yeah, 723 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, he was the one 724 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: that made purple a thing. You know, yeah, I thought 725 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: you were trying to support, you know, the one black Jedi. 726 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's okay. 727 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean for the Lakers is for 728 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: the Lakers, we all have our faults. How about this 729 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: actual NBA question more likely to happen? And why the 730 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: Lakers get in and win a series versus the Nuggets 731 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: or Thunder or Sixers get. 732 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: In and win a series versus Celtics or Knicks. Uh, 733 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Sixers just because they have the one 734 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: they need to win one game and then they get 735 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: in against the Knicks, and I do think that they 736 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: beat the Knicks if Embid stays healthy and so, you know, 737 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: like anytime you need less sort of things to break 738 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: right for you, I'm going to go with them. But 739 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think the Lakers have a 740 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: shot if they lose this first playing game and win 741 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: the second one. 742 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I'm going to read a quote to 743 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: you from Jamal Murray and then I want you to 744 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: react by telling me point made a good point. They 745 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: should be scared of no, he said quoth, and I 746 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 3: want I want you to react. I also want you 747 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: to spot the lie in here. There is a there 748 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: is an error. I think we're the best duo. I 749 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: think we're They're in a bigger market and people have 750 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: more interest in Lebron and a d in La or 751 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: what Damon Giannis could do, or what Luca and Kyrie 752 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: could do. Talking about the best duos and getting the 753 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: job done and how they play for each other and 754 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: with each other, I think me and Jokic are undoubtedly 755 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: number one. 756 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: Uh weird that he called him Joki? First of all? 757 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: Just it it's like, are you a fan? Just coworking 758 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: me and Gray? 759 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 3: I mean, when you're talking about NBA podcast hosts, me 760 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 3: and Gray Gray, we're up there. 761 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: Obrien's got the touch man, all right? First of all, 762 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: do you agree? No? You know, I I think, I mean, 763 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who I would pick as the best duo, 764 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: but it's just I mean, they're up there, certainly. And 765 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound disrespectful considering they just won the 766 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: title and everything, but it's like, you know, I'm okay. 767 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: If yok says that, I feel like it's a little weird. 768 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: If Jamal Murray is the one saying it would be 769 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: you know, again, this is extreme and this is too 770 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: mean to Jamal Murray, but I'm gonna make the analogy anyway, 771 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: and that that's like, you know, like Luke Walton being 772 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: like Kobe and I scored you know, like eighty four 773 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: points combined that day, you know, right right right, It's like, yeah, 774 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean that, like, you know, you guys do have 775 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: two of the most points together as teammates in NBA history, 776 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: but like one guy did the like the majority of 777 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: contributing to that, And so I just like, I think 778 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: that's got to be yokic given that quote, Like I 779 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: don't know, Murray, like, yeah, team before before saying this. 780 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: What is the uh what's the factual error that he 781 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: included in there? 782 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: There's an error in there. I don't know. 783 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: I think Ever is a larger market than Milwaukee. 784 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, by quite a bit. 785 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: Actually Milwaukee is below Salt Lake City, below San Jose, California. 786 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: Uh, market by us, you know exactly. 787 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: It's like wait what but yeah, Denver is like kind 788 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 3: of right in the middle of the pack. So, by 789 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: the way, I would have had more interesting questions to 790 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 3: ask you. But then I found this list of the 791 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 3: US markets by size and have just been looking at 792 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 3: it for the past. 793 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: Like there's so many ones in there that you're like, wait, 794 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: that city is bigger than that now, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 795 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: It's been a couple of times I've fallen down that 796 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. 797 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: So I Campa needs an NBA team, Seattle desperately needs 798 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 3: an NBA team, the fourteenth biggest, Puerto Rico needs an 799 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: NBA team. 800 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: Probably Durham at this point would too. Yeah, I've never 801 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: done this before. During this segment, but Jack, we have 802 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 2: to keep this moving. 803 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, smaller than Hartford, Connecticut, miles on. 804 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: The whale questions, Harrison, guess which city is bigger. 805 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 2: Big based on based on lightsabers owned per capita. 806 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: Okay, you're taking a time machine. 807 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: You can go back in time to personally be an 808 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: eyewitness at any of the following moments in NBA history. 809 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: You take your pick. 810 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: Eighty seven Finals, Game four, Magic's baby skyhook winner in 811 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: the Boston Garden, twenty ten Finals, Game seven, Blakers over Celtics, 812 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 2: two thousand Western Conference Finals, Game. 813 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: Seven, the Great lob Kobe Tshek Where are my feets? Wow? 814 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: Where do you need them to be? Like, how good 815 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: of feats are you giving me? I got it. I 816 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: mean it affects the question. I don't know. 817 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: I guess if we're talking Staples Center, they're like premier 818 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: level seats like sort of in that level. 819 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you know, like he like we can 820 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,959 Speaker 1: get your time machine, but not court side tickets. You're crazy? Okay, 821 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: lower lower bowl, lower bull lower bowl, say lower ball. 822 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: I'm I I am gonna say Game seven twenty ten, 823 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: just because that is probably my favorite NBA game of 824 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: all time and like my favorite Lakers win. Yeah, just 825 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, uh, like one of the Yeah, it's just 826 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: that's a game that means a lot to me, and 827 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: so I think it would be that one. 828 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: Shout out to my therapist for sure. 829 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: Said that game. It was just Game seven. I don't 830 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: need therapy man. Game seven the Lakers one. I don't 831 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: you got that? Fifth ring? I'm good? Uh. 832 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 3: And finally, someone's coming to the great City of Los 833 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 3: Angeles for one weekend. Give us three spots they need 834 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: to hit up. Let's go attraction not not restaurants, not bars, 835 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: just places places to hit. 836 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm a terrible person to ask this question too, because 837 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't really like go outside all that much. But 838 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: you know, I would say the Santa mon cup here 839 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: is pretty great. Uh you know, beautiful like ocean waves. 840 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing, ocean waves. I've heard 841 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: of these. Yeah, yeah, I can you tell them a writer. 842 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: I've never been there. I got to sire it out. Yeah, 843 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I like it can be personally, 844 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm not asking for 845 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: the object We're not the objective. Top three on the spot. Yeah, yeah, 846 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: my apartment, it's great. You should come by hang out. 847 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: I got I got some vegetarian snacks for you, you know. 848 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: Uh so yeah, my apartment number two, and then you know, 849 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: I'll give a shout out. My wife and I went 850 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: to a place called the Love Museum in downtown LA. 851 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. It was, you know, like a 852 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: good I would say, a good date spot like there, 853 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you have a significant other in your life. 854 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: It was cool. Wave I paid they basically they like 855 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: it's a museum built by this psychologist that was like 856 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: famous for studying love and like how it works chemically 857 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: in your brain or whatever, and it has all these 858 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: exhibits where you sort of like interact and think about 859 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: things and talk to each other and whatever. It could 860 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: be either the greatest or worst first date spot of 861 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: all time, but you know it was. We had a 862 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: lot of fun and I feel like, genuinely like I've 863 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: learned things about my wife and how she sees the 864 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: world that I did not know. They give you, they ask, Yeah, yeah, exactly, 865 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: I thought different colors, you know. 866 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 2: It's right, Yeah, yeah, it's taking very deep, labored breaths 867 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 2: every three minutes, is yeah. Well, Fagan, thank you so 868 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 2: much for joining us. All males and Jack got mad boosties. 869 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think everything we said today was correct, 870 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 2: no matter, even though we didn't know the results of 871 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: certain games. But look, I'm pretty sure we nailed it. 872 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: Where do people find you, follow you, read you, listen 873 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: to you all? How do they experience the Harrison Fagan Enterprise. 874 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: Yeah you can. You can read me and a bunch 875 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: of others at sp nation dot com during the during 876 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then we have a bunch of team 877 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: sites as well. Like Maps Moneyball had a really good 878 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: story up today on why the Maps should be taken 879 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: seriously as real contenders and like they have a real 880 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: shot to win the whole thing, and uh yeah, I 881 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: mean you can yell at me on Twitter at h 882 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: M F A I G E N. If you think 883 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: that the Lakers should not sort of tank tonight's playing game, 884 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: feel free just jump in a lot of people have 885 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: been doing it and uh yeah, you know, check out 886 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: like the silver screen and role playback screen, which I 887 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: will be jumping on sometimes during the playoffs. Beautiful. 888 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: You can follow the show by following the hashtag Mad 889 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: Bootys BW s t I show links and updates. 890 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: You can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter. 891 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm at Jack Underscore Obrian and that's gonna do it. 892 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: Another one in the books in the bottom of the 893 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 3: net Swish. 894 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: Boom Street Music. 895 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 2: Call me go Hie bastian Bach because we'll be back 896 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: next week with a whole another episode. 897 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 3: Miles and Jego on Mad Boosties sick Wow, we pitched 898 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 3: a perfect game, ain't that last closing? 899 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: Look? 900 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta get a back. It's sort of 901 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: like Seinfelip. There's this Superman reference somewhere in every episode. 902 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: There is a Johann Sebastian Bach reference. In every single 903 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: episode of Mad Boosti's real fans, no, okay of check 904 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 2: the tapes, all right, we'll see some twish dunk Swish 905 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: dunk dunk dunk shoot, as they say in Japan. 906 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmmm