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Speaker 1: All right, I am Rapport Stereo podcast. It is time.

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Speaker 1: It is time.

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Speaker 2: It's fantasy football season, it's mock draft season, it's get

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Speaker 2: your mind right fantasy football scramble, get your head on straight.

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Speaker 2: It's winning time. And I got two of the best

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Speaker 2: in the business. The Football Guys Fantasy Football Show, ginormous

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Speaker 2: Fantasy football podcast and YouTube show that I love that

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Speaker 2: I watch that I go to because champions respect, champions.

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Speaker 2: Dave and Alfredo are here, two of the best in

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Speaker 2: the business. I appreciate you guys coming on The Football

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Speaker 2: Guys Fantasy Football Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome. I appreciate you guys taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I take fantasy football so seriously, and

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Speaker 2: I really look at this time of the year, it's

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Speaker 2: like you got to shake out the cobwebs. I know, Dave,

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Speaker 2: you said to me, you guys never stop, you can't stop,

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Speaker 2: won't stop.

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Speaker 1: I have to stop.

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Speaker 2: Because the emotional toll that a fantasy football season takes

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Speaker 2: on me, Like I get too emotionally involved. So when

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Speaker 2: it's over, like, I must stop myself. But you guys

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Speaker 2: can't stop, won't stop. And I appreciate you guys coming on.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna just you know, get right to it.

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Speaker 2: But first of all, my first question for both of

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Speaker 2: you guys, and I appreciate you guys coming on is

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Speaker 2: and you guys, can you know answer this, you know individually,

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Speaker 2: Alfredo and Dave, How has fantasy football changed your life?

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Speaker 2: And did you ever think that fantasy football would take

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take this one. First. Football has changed my

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Speaker 3: life because it helps me maintain friendships better than any

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Speaker 3: other activity in the world. You know, I was. I

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Speaker 3: started my first fantasy football league when I was in

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Speaker 3: high school with my buddies. And here I am in

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Speaker 3: my mid thirties right now, and these guys that are

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Speaker 3: each other's children. We stand up in each other's weddings,

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Speaker 3: our wives are friends. So we can go on and

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Speaker 3: on talking about the numbers and sleepers and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But my favorite thing about fantasy football, besides winning money,

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Speaker 3: is the camaraderie and the friendship that a good fantasy

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Speaker 2: Now, when you say besides winning money, do you take

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Speaker 2: money from your good friends or are you talking about like, like,

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Speaker 2: what are you talking about here?

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Speaker 3: I rob my friends blind. They don't stand a chance.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We got a trophy with names engraved down at three

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Speaker 3: you know we all you know, are are good with it.

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Speaker 3: We're all happy with the buy in. But I take

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Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you, afraid of what about you?

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Speaker 5: Fantasy football changed my life, honestly.

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Speaker 6: I used to be in radio when I first got

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Speaker 6: then it turns into something and it's just like it's

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Speaker 6: so cool to be like, this doesn't Yeah, sure it

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't hurt anyone. It's just fun.

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Speaker 6: And so like when you say, yeah, we're grinding all

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Speaker 5: All year long than anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, it's so much fun. In

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Speaker 1: I think we all know. I know, the listeners of the.

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Speaker 2: Iron Wrap Port Stereo podcast understand where it is today.

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Speaker 2: Where do you see the business going for fantasy football?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question. And you know, Alfredo and

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Speaker 1: Another question I have, and ALFREDA, you could take this.

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Speaker 2: Listen, We've all been in a crunch, whether it's a

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Speaker 2: and you go to who if you want someone to

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Speaker 2: validate your championship decision, Alfredo, who are some of the

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Speaker 2: respect this person's voice and opinion in fantasy football, that

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Speaker 1: Outside of you guys.

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Speaker 2: Not to say that I want to give away any

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, I'm gonna preface this with saying I

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Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about this. Well, first of all, it's

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Speaker 6: one of my favorites has been JJ Zacharieson, who runs

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Speaker 6: Late Round Quarterback Man. His show, The Late Round Podcast

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Speaker 6: is awesome, and it's like these bite sized things where

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the heck he's talking about because

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Speaker 6: probably before Dave even honestly.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you could obviously say we're gonna we're you're gonna

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Speaker 3: read out, so you can find them on Twitter at

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Speaker 3: Steffie Small's with three l's and at four the number

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Speaker 3: four whom Jay beltoles. They are two fantastic football I.

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Speaker 1: Don't follow either of them, but I am following them

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about my sort of

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Speaker 2: personal philosophies. As you guys know my team Iconic Rap

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Speaker 2: Reports The Light aka History of Violence aka there will

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Speaker 2: be blood. I am a senior fantasy football analyst. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people say, how did you become that? I say,

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Speaker 2: look it up yourself.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I love fantasy football.

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Speaker 2: My mentality is know your guys, get your guys, know

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Speaker 2: who you want. More importantly or just as important, is

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Speaker 2: know who you do not want. Key in on free

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Speaker 2: talking about, six foot four, two guards, guys that could

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Speaker 2: But the most important philosophy that I have, like I said,

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Speaker 2: What I'm into. Twelve team standard. I'm not into any

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Speaker 1: What is it? Is it one year for eleven million dollars?

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Speaker 1: It's disgusting. It's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: But fortunately for the Giants and Giants fans and fantasy

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Speaker 2: other quarterbacks that can win you a championship this year?

436
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Speaker 2: Outside of the you know the stars that I just mentioned.

437
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that there's gonna be.

438
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Speaker 6: But we saw this, like late round quarterback draft strategy

439
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Speaker 6: is not totally dead.

440
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Speaker 5: Last year.

441
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Speaker 6: Justin Fields is really good from the late rounds. Daniel Jones,

442
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Speaker 6: your boy from the Giants, he was good. I think

443
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Speaker 6: there's gonna be quite a few. There's one that I'm

444
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 6: not totally sold on him yet, but Dave does love him,

445
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Speaker 6: and it's Deshaun Watson playing over in Cleveland. If he

446
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Speaker 6: can return into the form that he used to be

447
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 6: in like to stop thinking about the off the field

448
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Speaker 6: stuff and just think about fantasy football for the moment.

449
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Speaker 2: If he is playing, it's sick that we can't in

450
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Speaker 2: fantasy football.

451
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Speaker 1: It's sick. It's sick. But go ahead, it's already in

452
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Speaker 1: a ruptore.

453
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Speaker 6: No, you're good, You're good, And it's just if he

454
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Speaker 6: can play the way he did three years ago and

455
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Speaker 6: be at a near MVP level, that's a guy that

456
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Speaker 6: potentially wins your league. Just like day talking about the

457
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Speaker 6: person over his shoulder, I've got the offhin stuff over

458
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Speaker 6: my shoulder. If to a tongue of by looa can

459
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Speaker 6: stay healthy and avoid the concussions, Oh my gosh, is

460
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Speaker 6: that offense so good. You talk about all these fast

461
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Speaker 6: wide receivers that you love so much, Michael, Like that

462
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Speaker 6: is the team if if you're gonna have this mad

463
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Speaker 6: scientist genius Mike McDaniel running that offense to a tongue

464
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Speaker 6: of by Loa who showed last year he can be

465
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Speaker 6: one of the most accurate, deadly quarterbacks in the league,

466
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Speaker 6: that offense could really fly.

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Speaker 5: That's a guy that I like. Later and if you're

468
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Speaker 5: just going like.

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Speaker 6: Really deep into your bag, man, Matthew Stafford has we

470
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Speaker 6: kind of forgot how good he was when they went

471
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Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl and he's getting that injury discount

472
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Speaker 6: right now. That's Sean mcvayle att offense. They still have

473
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Speaker 6: Cooper cup on this team. That's still a team around

474
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Speaker 6: him that can be pretty damn good. And Matthew Stafford

475
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Speaker 6: was good for fantasy and he's going as like the

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Speaker 6: quarterback twenty twenty one, Like you're you're throwing late, late,

477
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Speaker 6: late round picks at him, so it doesn't even cost

478
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Speaker 6: you anything.

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Speaker 3: I just want to real quickly, we haven't mentioned justin

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Speaker 3: fields and Michael, I'm.

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Speaker 5: A field one more time.

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Speaker 3: How are we talking about all these good fantasy quarterbacks

483
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Speaker 3: and not talking about Justin Fields, who just had these

484
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Speaker 3: second most rushing yards in NFL history for a quarterback.

485
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Speaker 3: And if you've played fantasy football before, you know that

486
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Speaker 3: rushing quarterbacks are a cheat code. I looked at it

487
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Speaker 3: yesterday and the rushing output alone from Justin Fields last year,

488
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Speaker 3: like if he didn't attempt a single pass, he still

489
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Speaker 3: would have been a top twenty quarterback. So any passing

490
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Speaker 3: volume that you're getting on top of that is just

491
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Speaker 3: the cherry on top Justin Fields. You know, again, not

492
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Speaker 3: trying to sound like a Homer here, but I'm trying

493
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Speaker 3: to get him in as many drafts as I can

494
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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like that the Aaron in the room aka

496
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Speaker 2: the Elephant in the room. What do you see from

497
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and the New York Football Jets j e

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Speaker 2: Ts Jets, Jets Jets.

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Speaker 3: That's a tough one. And we've seen like extreme ends

500
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Speaker 3: of like what these over the hill quarterbacks can look

501
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Speaker 3: like on new teams. Like we saw Peyton Peyton Manning

502
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Speaker 3: going to Denver and win a Super Bowl in the

503
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Speaker 3: second year, we saw Tom Brady go to Tampa Bay

504
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Speaker 3: and win a Super Bowl. We saw Matthew Stafford go

505
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Speaker 3: to Los Angeles and win a Super Bowl. But we

506
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Speaker 3: also saw Russell Wilson in Denver last year just face

507
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Speaker 3: plant terribly. We saw Matt Ryan in Indianapolis look absolutely terrible.

508
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Speaker 3: So the range of outcomes is so wide. The one

509
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Speaker 3: thing that scares me off a little bit is if

510
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Speaker 3: you look historically, it takes Aaron Rodgers years to build

511
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Speaker 3: that trust with his receivers. I mean, Davonte Adams didn't

512
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Speaker 3: hit a thousand yards until his fourth year in the league,

513
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Speaker 3: and every single time a guy would come in, whether

514
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: it was Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, it didn't matter.

515
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Speaker 3: He slowly kind of warmed up to these guys. Took

516
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Speaker 3: years to build that trust, build that chemistry. So I

517
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Speaker 3: think it was very intentional when he went to New

518
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Speaker 3: York for them to bring in Randall Cobb and bring

519
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Speaker 3: in Alm Lazard and bring in these old friends. The

520
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Speaker 3: reality is Garrett Wilson is the best receiver that he's

521
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Speaker 3: played with next to Devonte Adams. But I worry that

522
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Speaker 3: that trusting chemistry isn't going to be there in the

523
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Speaker 3: year one. By the time they finally build that all

524
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Speaker 3: of a sudden. Aaron Rodgers is forty one, forty two

525
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Speaker 3: years old, So I'm a little bit pessimistic about the Jets.

526
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Speaker 3: I don't think that they're going to be as good

527
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Speaker 3: as some people hope.

528
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Speaker 2: Trevor with the good hair, Trevor Lawrence, is he gonna

529
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Speaker 2: finally finally break out? Or Kenny Pickett? Which one of

530
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Speaker 2: these guys you think is gonna have a better season

531
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Speaker 2: or are they both gonna step it up this year?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

533
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Speaker 6: Man, I think if we're going Trevor Lawrence versus Kenny Pickett,

534
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Speaker 6: that feels an easy one for me.

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Speaker 5: That's going to be Trevor Lawrence.

536
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Speaker 6: I think we saw him really pick it up last

537
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Speaker 6: year as the season went on, and it's that's kind

538
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Speaker 6: of what you look for in these young guys. Sometimes

539
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Speaker 6: you see it with rookies, but when you see it

540
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Speaker 6: on a second year guy like that, where they get

541
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Speaker 6: better as the season gets later and the competition gets

542
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Speaker 6: tougher and playing even better in the playoffs. That's a

543
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Speaker 6: guy that you're going into the season and you're not

544
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Speaker 6: nearly as worried about. You're not saying, okay, well, does

545
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Speaker 6: he have the mental aspect of the game like, no,

546
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Speaker 6: he's playing, he's ready to go. He's gonna be his

547
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 6: in his second year in this offensive system, so he's

548
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Speaker 6: gonna know the playbook even better now. And I'm not

549
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Speaker 6: sure how excited I am about him. But now you

550
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Speaker 6: add Calvin Ridley to that offense, I think that Trevor Lawrence.

551
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Speaker 6: If there's one of those guys that might surprise us

552
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Speaker 6: all and kind of join that elite tier of quarterbacks,

553
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Speaker 6: it could very well be Trevor Lawrence. I think that

554
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Speaker 6: we don't look at his running ability as much as

555
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Speaker 6: as we should. He was really good at it in college,

556
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Speaker 6: and I think that might be one of those missing

557
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Speaker 6: pieces of his game.

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Speaker 5: Can you pick it?

559
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Speaker 6: He could be better, right, I think he could be better,

560
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Speaker 6: But I think he's gonna end up being one of

561
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Speaker 6: those like Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff kind of guys maybe

562
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Speaker 6: for his career. That whole offense is still really really

563
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Speaker 6: dumb down. Like all he would do is just let's

564
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Speaker 6: run to the right and throw to that single receiver

565
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Speaker 6: and cut the field in half. And that's all Matt Canada,

566
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Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator, did so unless they change that and

567
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Speaker 6: fire him or something, Yeah, I'm going with Trevor Lawrence

568
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Speaker 6: in that All day.

569
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Speaker 2: Quick hits on are you inner? You out Dak Prescott?

570
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Speaker 2: Would you draft him?

571
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Speaker 3: I'm out on Dak Prescott. I mean, his best year

572
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: was back in twenty nineteen and that was before his

573
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Speaker 3: ankle injury. And since the ankle injury, he lost the mobility.

574
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Speaker 3: He's not rushing near the goal line like he used

575
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Speaker 3: to be. And the real thing that scares me is

576
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Speaker 3: the new play call in there. Mike McCarthy is going

577
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 3: to be in charge of play calling and that is

578
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Speaker 3: not good for offenses.

579
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr.

580
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Speaker 6: I'm actually in on Derek Carr just because I uh

581
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Speaker 6: not like that in but I do like that his

582
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Speaker 6: pairing with Chris Alvey. I think that Saints offense could

583
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 6: be really good in the NFC South that is wide

584
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Speaker 6: open for competition. So I think he's okay if you're

585
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Speaker 6: gonna pair him with Chris A.

586
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Speaker 1: Love Daniel Jones.

587
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so in on Daniel Jones. I love this guy.

588
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: Year two with Brian Dabele, we saw what Brian Dable

589
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: did with Josh Allen, and we started to see those

590
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Speaker 3: baby steps. In year one with Daniel Jones, so completely

591
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Speaker 3: in on him.

592
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Speaker 2: I can't stand this, this guy with fantasy and Kirk Cousins.

593
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Speaker 2: He's my number one least favorite person in fantasy football

594
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Speaker 2: because of some stuff that happened a couple of years ago.

595
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Speaker 3: Drop the Joey Wright quote, drop an Alfredo. You know

596
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: what's what I'm talking about?

597
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, No, you can't.

598
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember the day in quote. Man.

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is great if you don't want to lose

601
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: your league, but he is not going to win you

602
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: in the league. That's it. I mean, he is just

603
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: as vanilla as it comes.

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Speaker 6: My favorite comparison for Kirk Cousins that he's oatmeal, like

605
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 6: he will he'll feed you so you don't die, but

606
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 6: you didn't really enjoy your meal. And that's kind of

607
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 6: the same thing with fantas Like if you don't play

608
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 6: fasces football, like, go have fun with it. Draft a

609
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 6: quarterback and an offense that's gonna be a lot of fun.

610
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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins just ain't that Gino Smith. Oh, I really

611
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: like Gino. I really like Gino. They put a whole

612
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 6: bunch of pieces around him. Another pass catching running back

613
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Speaker 6: in Zach Sharboney, Jackson Smith and Jiggbo who is my

614
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 6: top raighted wide receiver from that rookie class. And that

615
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: offensive line, who was young last year with a couple

616
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 6: of rookies, got even better. So yeah, and I love

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Speaker 6: the draft cost too. For Gino, He's not even going

618
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Speaker 6: as a top twelve quarterback, so you don't have to

619
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Speaker 6: spend a lot to get him.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Russell the love Muscle Wilson. Is he gonna

621
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Speaker 2: be able to bounce back from a disgusting first season

622
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Speaker 2: as a Denver Bronco.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought this up because Russell Wilson has

624
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Speaker 3: been a guy that I have been beating the drum

625
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: for all offseason. Last year he finished his QB seventeen.

626
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: This year he's getting drafted as QB eighteen, so people

627
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: are expecting him to get worse. I think Sean Payton

628
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: revamps that offense. I mean, Nathaniel Hackett was a joke

629
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: last year. I think we could just completely throw away

630
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: everything we saw last year. Prior to last season, Russell

631
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Wilson was a top ten fantasy quarterback for eight straight seasons.

632
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: He was top three in four of those eight seasons.

633
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Speaker 3: I'm completely invested in a Russell Wilson bounce back this year.

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Speaker 2: I want both of you guys to answer this, and

635
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: you can't copy the same answer. I truly believe for

636
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: myself has included and probably not for you guys, because

637
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: you guys are serious, serious, deep, deep deep professional fantasy

638
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Speaker 2: football people.

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Speaker 1: In six to eight months.

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Speaker 2: Give me the name of a quarterback, a wide receiver,

641
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: and a running back. Rookies that are going to or

642
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: second year guys that we don't know the name of,

643
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: that are going to change our life, that fantasy football

644
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: champions are going to be in love with. Like, who

645
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: are the rookies in each position that fantasy football players

646
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: are going to be in love with? And they are

647
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: going to become When somebody does good by me, I

648
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: consider him family members. Obviously, you know the Bryce Young's,

649
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: a CJ. Stroudsy Anthony Richardson's. So give me a quarterback,

650
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: a receiver, and a running back that you feel like

651
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: who was going to emerge this year.

652
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Speaker 3: So I think the three quarterbacks that you just listed

653
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: are the only ones that are ever going to be

654
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Speaker 3: relevant out of this class. Alfredo, I know you like

655
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: Stetson Bennett a little bit, and I think that he

656
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: has some potential. I don't know if he's going to

657
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: get his shit. I think CJ. Stroud, though, is the guy.

658
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: He's got some sneaky rushing upside. We saw the same

659
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: thing with Justin Fields when he was at Ohio State.

660
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: Never ran the ball because they didn't have to because

661
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: they had such good receivers that were getting open all

662
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: the time. I think CJ. Stroud has that same type

663
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: of athleticism that we didn't see in college that he

664
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: can unlock a little bit in the NFL. On top

665
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: of that, he's gonna be playing in a Kyle Shanahan

666
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: esque offense under Demico Ryans. So CJ. Stroud, I've got

667
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: him ranked ahead of all of the other rookie quarterbacks.

668
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: I think that he's going to surprise a lot of

669
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: people this year.

670
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Speaker 6: Yeah, for me the quarterback, I love CJ. Stroud, but

671
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go different direction.

672
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: Bryce Young. He's that Steph Curry out there on.

673
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: The floor for the quarterback position man, and like he's

674
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 6: going to blanket on the name of the head coach,

675
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 6: Dave if you got me. For the Panthers, where he

676
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 6: used to be the coach of the Colts, Frank Reich. Yeah,

677
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 6: so he's going to an offense that has given you

678
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 6: fantasy's success before.

679
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 5: And Bryce Young was doing this last year.

680
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz look good.

681
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, So like, if you can make Carson Wentz

682
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 6: look good, Bryce Young number one overall pick. The only

683
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 6: problem people had with him was not his skill, it

684
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: was his size. So yeah, I like Bryce Young for

685
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 6: next year.

686
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: And what about our running backs?

687
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: I mean, we could both say b John Robinson, but

688
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: I think we'll go a little bit. Jon is going

689
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: to be I mean, he is as good as Saquon,

690
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: He's as good as Zeke, as good as Girl. You

691
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: put him up there with any of them. But Jamiir

692
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: Gibbs seems like the forgotten guy in this class because

693
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Bijon Robinson is getting so much hype. Jamiir Gibbs was

694
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: unbelievable in college and then the team put a twelve

695
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: overall draft pick into him. If you look historically over

696
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: the last decade, every single running back that has finished

697
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: been drafted inside the top twelve has finished as a

698
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: top ten running back or better. So I think Jamier

699
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: Gibbs is going to put the league on notice. This year.

700
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, those are the two guys.

701
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: And then what about our wide receiver that's going to

702
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: change somebody's life, hopefully mine.

703
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, at the wide receivers, man, I really love the

704
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: opportunity for Jackson Smith and Jigba. I spoke about him

705
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 6: a little bit earlier, and this is one of those

706
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 6: guys I think for all the wide receivers in this

707
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 6: draft class, it's going to take a little bit of time, right.

708
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 6: I think Jordan Addison is probably gonna get more opportunity earlier,

709
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 6: but I think also his production is always going to

710
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: be capped with Justin Jefferson there, whereas I think for

711
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 6: that Seahawks offense, Jackson Smith and Jigbu does something so

712
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 6: different from what DK Metcalf does, meaning like he's getting

713
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: open underneath, he's playing in the slot. He can be

714
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 6: a quarterback's best friend, while DK Metcalf is kind of

715
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 6: like the big explosive play guy and jackson'sbout the jig

716
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 6: Budd just one of the best college production profiles we've seen,

717
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 6: a guy who I think should have probably gone earlier

718
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 6: in this draft. He's one of those that I think

719
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 6: that as we get into fantasy playoff time, whoever drafted

720
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 6: him is going to be really happy that he's their

721
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 6: wide receiver three or four on their team.

722
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: All right, I like that. I like all these answers.

723
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: As far as the running backs, I want to throw

724
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: names at you guys and just see if you're in

725
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: or you're out. Because we didn't mention his name, and

726
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: I know why people stop mentioning his name, but every

727
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: season he does it. Derek the truck Henry has not

728
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: come up in this podcast. Derek the truck Henry, where

729
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: are you on the truck the truck driver, the eighteen

730
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: wheel truck known as Derrick Henry.

731
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm so in on Darren Henry, Derek Henry. And if

732
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: you look right now, he is slipping into like the

733
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: third rounds in some drafts. Like people just have written

734
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: this guy off for dead. Last year we saw him

735
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: getting more involved in the passing game, which is great.

736
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: Now with DeAndre Hopkins there, defenses are gonna have to

737
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: change the way that they play against the Titans. Last year,

738
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: Derek Henry saw more loaded fronts than almost any running

739
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: back in the league. I mean, every single time he

740
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: was touching the ball, there were seven guys just waiting

741
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: there to stop him now. DeAndre Hopkins is gonna keep

742
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: defenses a little bit more honest, Derrick Henry hasn't even

743
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: shown signs of slowing down. Somehow, he just keeps getting better.

744
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: So I am wighing on Dereck Henry this year.

745
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't know what with like, we haven't

746
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: seen anything.

747
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: All we've seen is him continue to kick ass, and

748
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: we've seen him on Instagram doing feats that near mortals.

749
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even think about doing. Austin Eckler.

750
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Austin Exler is still gonna be good man.

751
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 6: He's going into this He's gonna be part of this

752
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: Kellen Moore offense that we saw last year made Tony

753
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 6: Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott relevant for fantasy football, and Austin

754
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 6: Eckler is still gonna be involved in that passing game.

755
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 6: You can't just no matter what offense you bring in,

756
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 6: you don't necessarily change the tendencies of quarterbacks. So Justin

757
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 6: Herbert's still gonna be targeting Austin Eckler and man if

758
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 6: he's still gonna get used near the goal line and

759
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 6: they're not signing anyone else, they haven't done that yet.

760
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 6: Austin Eckler is still gonna be a very valuable running back.

761
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 6: Another one of those guys that's seeking the big contract.

762
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: Smoking Joe Mixon in or out.

763
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm in right now because he's getting drafted in like

764
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: the fourth or fifth round. But I think that as

765
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: we start getting closer and closer to kickoff, he's going

766
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: to start moving up draft boards a little bit. He

767
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: was suppressed in value because of the contract concerns, but

768
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 3: it worries me. You know, we talked about how rude

769
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: teams I've been to running backs lately, and they basically

770
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: told Joe Mixon, you either signed for half of what

771
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: we were paying you, or you know, kick rocks, go

772
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: find another team to play for. So he had to

773
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: sign on that line. And I'm kind of worried that

774
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: this year, with Chris Evans there and with Chase Brown there,

775
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: and with Travon Williams there, he's not going to be seeing,

776
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: you know, the twenty five thirty touches a game that

777
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 3: he saw historically. We made this joke on our show

778
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: last week, but Joe Mixon only seems to try like

779
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: one week out of the year. It's like he goes

780
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: down to good to week sixteen weeks and doesn't care. Yeah,

781
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: and then he has that one week where he goes

782
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: for like two hundred yards and five touchdowns, and then

783
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: the rest of the season he doesn't care at all.

784
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: He's a frustrating player to own. I think I'm gonna

785
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: be out on Joe Mixon by the time one rolls around.

786
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: The chubby one, Nick Chubb, Nicholas Chubb. Where we at

787
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: on Nick?

788
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, give me, give me all the chubby bunny man.

789
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: I'm all about Nick Chubb this season.

790
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: Like we said earlier with Deshaun Watson, if that Browns

791
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 6: offense is even just a little bit better, that's going

792
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 6: to provide more scoring opportunities for Nick Chubb, who really

793
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 6: had to continuously put the team on his back for

794
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 6: years and years and years, and so now he doesn't

795
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: have Kareem Hunt as his running mate in that backfield anymore.

796
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 6: So you're talking about a guy that could get more volume,

797
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: whether it's through carries, through the passing game, which I

798
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 6: mean we kind of always say a reception for a

799
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 6: running back is worth what one point five or two

800
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 6: times as much two point two point five.

801
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: I'm not a numbers guy.

802
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 6: Dave, but it's worth two point five the amount of

803
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 6: points for in comparison to a carry. So if Nick

804
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 6: Chubb is gonna get more work in the passing game,

805
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 6: more opportunities to score touchdowns, and that offense can be

806
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 6: a little bit better, the volume is guaranteed. He's already

807
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 6: got a really good floor. We called him a Volvo

808
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 6: last week because he's just a really safe, safe pick early.

809
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 6: But man if all of a sudden that Volvo is

810
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 6: getting more.

811
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: Fantasy football volume turns into a Rolls Royce real quick.

812
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Kenneth the sky Walker.

813
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: You know, I know Alfredo just went I am out

814
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: on Kenneth Walker, and I know Alfredo hates me for this,

815
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: but I'm just gonna say it anyway. I like Zach

816
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: Scharbonay a lot and Zach Sharbonay. He's a bigger back,

817
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: he's a faster back. He caught a lot more passes

818
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: in college. So you know, what we saw from Kenneth

819
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: Walker last year was great, But we can't ignore that

820
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: the team spent a premium second round pick on a

821
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: running back this year, and this is Pete Carroll, you know,

822
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: the guy we never knew if it was gonna be

823
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 3: Chris Carson or Rashad Penny, like he likes these running

824
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: back shenanigans, and I think we see a lot of

825
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: those shenanigans in twenty twenty three. So give me Zach Charboney,

826
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: who's the much cheaper of the two, and I think

827
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: a very similar prospect.

828
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 5: You're wrong, but that's okay.

829
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: He's now in Carolina. Miles Sanders.

830
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: I wanted to be in on Miles Sanders.

831
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 6: I wanted to be excited about him, but I mean,

832
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 6: he's getting drafted as a top twenty running back right now,

833
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 6: and we saw him have the best season of his

834
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 6: career last year, and it was all in the back

835
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: of getting a lot of touchdowns, a lot of work

836
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 6: in a really, really, really good Philadelphia Eagles offense, and

837
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 6: so I feel like we've already seen the ceiling, right, Like,

838
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 6: you know how good he can be, and then you're

839
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 6: kind of still drafting him around that cost and a

840
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers offense who we know as much as I

841
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 6: like Bryce Young for the future, rookie quarterbacks don't usually

842
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 6: spell success for fantasy football for the entire offense. So

843
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 6: I'm not targeting Miles Sanders and drafts.

844
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Where are you at on Ramadre?

845
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: I am completely out on Romadre Stevenson. And you talked

846
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: about it, Michael, like try One of the things that

847
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 3: you try to do is like guest free agency moves.

848
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: Do we really think that this is the final Patriots roster?

849
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: Do we think that Bill Belichick is going into the

850
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: season with Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris as the own

851
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: other running backs? I don't think so. You know, they

852
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: worked out Leonard Fournette and they apparently made him an offer.

853
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: Right now, if you look at betting odds, Dalvin Cook

854
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: is the favorite to land in New England. So that's

855
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: my fear is that right now we're drafting Ramadre Stevenson

856
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: as a top ten running back because we expect him

857
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: to get all of the touches. But this is Bill Belichick.

858
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: We can't ignore thirty years of coaching tendencies. The reality

859
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: is that he is going to be splitting touches with somebody,

860
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: and I think that we're just drafting him way too

861
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: high right now.

862
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, are we in? Rowe out?

863
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 6: I like Aaron Jones still like I'm in because he's

864
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 6: of value. I'm not in because I'm saying, Oh, he's

865
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 6: gonna finish as a top five guy, and the ceilings

866
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 6: really high. I'm in because he's a Toyota Cambri like,

867
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 6: he's a safe, reliable RB two and as.

868
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Far as a deeper around running backs, you know the

869
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: word sleepers thrown around. You know, guys like James Cook,

870
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: Damian Pierce. Give me some names that give me something

871
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna wind up hitting you up about. Give

872
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: me it now as opposed to me hitting you up

873
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: the last minute before my draft or like you know,

874
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: after my draft, like give me like a little star dust.

875
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: So you said James Cook, and I'm gonna go with

876
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: the same team, but I'm going with a different guy

877
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: in the backfield. They're Damien Harris. I love Damien Harris

878
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: so much. One of my favorite running backs in the league.

879
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: And really the only thing that's held him back throughout

880
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 3: his career so far has been injuries. But two years ago,

881
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: when he was healthy, he led the team in touchdowns.

882
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: He was also great at his PFF's best running back

883
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: in that year. And now he walked into a role

884
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: that was vacated by Devin Singletary that for four straight

885
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: years gave him more touches than Damien Harris ever saw

886
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: during his time in New England, so we expect him

887
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: to just walk right into that role. That's gonna give

888
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: him a ton of volume on an explosive offense. He's

889
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 3: going to score a bunch of touchdowns. And right now

890
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: you can get Damien Harris as like the running back

891
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: thirty running back thirty five off the board, and I

892
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: think he has realistic potential if he starts scoring those touchdowns.

893
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: To finish with the top ten, top twelve running back

894
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: Alfred or.

895
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 6: I need something from you, Yeah, right, actually right, just

896
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 6: a few spots down in the rankings and in that

897
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 6: average draft position. Khalil Herbert running back for the Chicago Bears.

898
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 6: These are the type of situations you want to actually

899
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: look at and find the value as those ambiguous running

900
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 6: back situations where you've got two, three, sometimes even four

901
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 6: guys and you're just like, I don't know who's gonna

902
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 6: be the best one to come out of this. But

903
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 6: because of that and because of that confusion, you end

904
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 6: up with these draft value players, just like Damian Harris

905
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 6: and Khalil Herbert. Khalil Herbert was so good last year

906
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: when he played he was one of the best running

907
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: backs in football when he actually played, and he was

908
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 6: dealing with competition from David Montgomery, who I mean. I

909
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 6: don't think I'm saying anything that crazy to say that

910
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 6: David Montgomery is a better player than Deonta Foreman and

911
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 6: rookie Roshawn Johnson who are there now and the Bears.

912
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 6: So this is once again, it's kind of the straw

913
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 6: that stirs the drink. If the offense is better, that

914
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 6: leads to more opportunities and scoring opportunities for Khalil Herbert.

915
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 6: And if he remains playing at that same level that

916
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 6: he was last year, I don't see a reason why

917
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 6: he can't beat out the competition that's there and at

918
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 6: least get the lion's share of the work, not all

919
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 6: of it, but most of it.

920
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: I want to shift quick to our wide receivers. We've

921
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: talked to some names and stuff like that. I want

922
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: in or out on these wide receivers. But just a

923
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: specific question, what is your take on Baker under center

924
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay with Chris Godwin, Big Mike Evans, What's

925
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: gonna happen with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

926
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: I mean, Baker Mayfield turned prime Odell Beckham Junior into

927
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: a pumpkin. I mean, like that guy came from New

928
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: York looking like one of the best receivers in the league,

929
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: then showed up in Cleveland with Baker Mayfield and was terrible.

930
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: So I'm worried and it sucks because Chris Godwin is

931
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players in the league. Mike Evans

932
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: has been steady Eddie consistently every single year. But I'd

933
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 3: be lying if I said I wasn't worried about Baker

934
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: Mayfield and what he's going to do to that offense.

935
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: And what do you think about DeVante Adams getting passes

936
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: from Jimmy Garoppolo in Las Vegas.

937
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: I think we've see that Devanta Adams can produce no

938
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 6: matter who the quarterback is. Like last year, I mean,

939
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: I know he's not horrible, but I don't think there's

940
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: a huge difference between a guy like Derek Carr and

941
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: Jimmy Garoppolo and DeVante Adams was still able to be

942
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 6: what a top three wide receiver last year for fantasy.

943
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 6: I mean, you could put pretty much anyone back there

944
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: at quarterback, and Davante is so damn talented that it's

945
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 6: just not gonna matter. So yeah, I'm still in on him,

946
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 6: and especially at the fact that his draft cost keeps

947
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 6: going down. He's going as like the wide receiver seven

948
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 6: or eight or something like that.

949
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: Do you guys think we mentioned Tua and obviously Miami

950
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: his health, but is there enough footballs to.

951
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Go around in Miami? In general?

952
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: We got Tyrek the Freak, we got Wattle Waddle. Where

953
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: are you guys on Miami and those two players? Obviously

954
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: they're both sick, But do they cancel each other out?

955
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't really cancel each other out last year?

956
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: They both ate. What's your take on them this year?

957
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: Alfredo, you're the Dolphins fan, man, you take this. You

958
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: give good objective opinions on the Dolphins, So go forward.

959
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 5: I was hoping you'd pass this to me.

960
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 6: So yeah, Michael, you're right, like, there's not a lot

961
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 6: of you know, there's only so many footballs to go around.

962
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 6: But the Dolphins were the team that targeted the wide

963
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: receiver position, and we're talking about target share comparatively more

964
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 6: than anyone else. They like don't even have a real

965
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 6: tight end on their roster that's going to catch passes.

966
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 6: They do not throw to the running backs. That's not

967
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 6: a thing that Tua does or that Mike McDaniels has

968
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 6: really put into that offense. So yeah, you're going to

969
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 6: continue to see that with Jalen Wattle and Tyreek Hill.

970
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 6: And I think kind of the next question that is

971
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 6: like what happens if Tua is not there? I don't

972
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 6: think it matters because of the concepts that the that

973
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 6: this team is using. They're using very simple concepts that

974
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 6: put very talented and fast players in space that a

975
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 6: lot of what they're doing is being able to create

976
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 6: after the catch.

977
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: All right in or out on these players. See d Lamb.

978
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm so in on cd Lamb. This dude is just

979
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: a target hog. Like the offense runs through him, and

980
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 3: it's tough.

981
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: You know.

982
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: I had debaate this a lot. I talked about those

983
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: like top guys that you know justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase,

984
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup and Tyree Hill. Part of me wants to

985
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: put Cede Lamb in that discussion, like as the back

986
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: end guy in that tier. I think he can take

987
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 3: a step forward. I think the thing with Ceedee Lamb

988
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: is we kind of get spoiled and we get very

989
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: anxious and we want guys to produce immediately Ceedee Lamb

990
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: didn't come out guns blazed in as a rookie. It

991
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: took him a couple of years to warm up, but

992
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: he has established himself as one of the best receivers

993
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: in the league.

994
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs.

995
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: I think it's hard to be out on Stefan Diggs.

996
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 6: He's still the primary pass catcher and a Josh Allen

997
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 6: led offense. I think you get some of those same

998
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: concerns that people get with like Derek Henry is always

999
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 6: getting older. That doesn't concern me as much with players

1000
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 6: with wide receivers that are really good route runners, and

1001
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 6: Diggs is one of the best route runners in the league.

1002
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 6: He doesn't have to beat you with speed or muscle

1003
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 6: or size. He just leaves you standing five yards away

1004
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 6: while he's wide open for those catches. So yeah, he's

1005
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 6: gonna continue to get the volume and continue to produce.

1006
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: Son God Saint Brown.

1007
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: I'm so in on this guy. I just wrote an

1008
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: article about him recently. This blew my mind. As far

1009
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: as first two years in the league, go Amano. Saint

1010
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: Brown has more receptions than anybody in NFL history through

1011
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: his first two years, and that's been a part time

1012
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: player for half of his rookie season, that's dealing with

1013
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: injuries in year two. This dude is a freak. If

1014
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: you look at the games that he has been healthy.

1015
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: You know, we talk about volume all the time for

1016
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: running backs, but volume for wide receivers is important too.

1017
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: You want the guys to get a lot of targets

1018
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: in games where he has been healthy. Seventeen of his

1019
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: last nineteen games he has pulled nine or more targets.

1020
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: He is just completely defying the odds of a fourth

1021
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: round wide receiver. I've got him right now, ahead of

1022
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: aj Brown, ahead of Stefan Diggs, ahead of Devonte Adams.

1023
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: I've got him as my wide receiver six and rankings

1024
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: this year.

1025
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, cool? I like that.

1026
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: I definitely got to get set up with your your

1027
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: site and all these rankings because it's time to really

1028
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: get super duper focused. We mentioned DK, DK metcalf Candy

1029
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: the Candy Man. Where do you stand on him?

1030
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: DK?

1031
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 6: I'm not as excited about this year only because there's

1032
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 6: been so much added competition. I mentioned Jays and Jackson

1033
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 6: Smith and Jigba. Dave mentioned Zach Charbone, the pass catching

1034
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 6: running back who's been brought in. And the other thing too,

1035
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 6: is that we talk about how this team may want

1036
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 6: to actually start.

1037
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: Running the ball a bit more than they did last year.

1038
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 6: Now they have two running backs, So DK, I think

1039
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 6: he's still going to be a good wide receiver. Two,

1040
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: he's still going to give you some of those weeks

1041
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 6: where he wins you the entire week on his own,

1042
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 6: but it's gonna be a matter of you don't know

1043
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 6: what that volume is always going to be.

1044
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: So at has cost him out.

1045
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: I just want to say, you called him candy man, Like,

1046
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: this dude is rolling in money. Why doesn't he have

1047
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: a personal chef? Like the way that this guy looks

1048
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: as big as he is, could you imagine if he

1049
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: was eating a healthy, normal diet. I can't believe it.

1050
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we.

1051
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Should get rid of the personal chefs and you know,

1052
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: the carrot juice and start eating skittles, you know, all day,

1053
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: cause Candy, If I did. If I did that, I

1054
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: would who knows what would happen to me. It'd be

1055
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: like we'd like doing drum and they're like doing crack.

1056
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: If I had skittles all day, like I'd be wandering

1057
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: around the streets naked.

1058
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk.

1059
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I love Christian Kirk.

1060
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Man.

1061
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: If I knew were gonna be talking about Christan Kirk,

1062
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: I'd be wearing my Christian kirk shirt right now. The

1063
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: dude was so underrated his entire time in Arizona, and

1064
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: then we finally see him get to be the primary

1065
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: weapon on an offense. I know we were talking about Calvin

1066
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: Ridley a little bit more, and I think that Calvin

1067
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: Ridley will help this Jaguars offense take a step forward.

1068
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: But all of our guys at football, guys, if you

1069
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: look at our consensus rankings, most websites prefer Calvin Ridley

1070
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: to Christian Kirk. Us football guys, we're standing on an

1071
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: island on our own, still liking Christian Kirk more than

1072
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley this year.

1073
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: And where are you guys on Juju now that he's

1074
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: in New England.

1075
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 6: Not a big fan of that Juju being in New England.

1076
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 6: I mean, on the surface, it feels like it makes

1077
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 6: sense because he's gonna have this volume, right, Like, who

1078
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 6: else do they have there? They just gave DeVante Parker,

1079
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 6: who's like on his very last ligament, a contract, But

1080
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 6: Jude just coming off of injury his own and mac

1081
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 6: Zones really hasn't shown that he's gonna.

1082
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: Support a high end fantasy wide receiver.

1083
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 6: I think the best we've got was seeing Jacobe Myers,

1084
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 6: who Jacoby Myers and Judi Smith Schusters are so much

1085
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 6: the same player. They basically signed the exact same contract

1086
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 6: and just signed elsewhere. So I don't think that we're

1087
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 6: gonna see him be much more than what he's kind

1088
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 6: of been for the last few years in his career.

1089
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 6: Is just like a wide receiver three, maybe in that

1090
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: top forty range.

1091
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen.

1092
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: I love Keenan Allen. When he was healthy last year,

1093
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: he was putting up top four numbers, And yeah, he

1094
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: missed some early time early on in the season and

1095
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: he's getting up there in age. But like we were

1096
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: talking about Stefan Diggs, he is a technician as a

1097
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: route runner. Like look through Keenan Allen's entire history, have

1098
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: you ever seen Keenan Allen get blown up on a play?

1099
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: Like He's not that type of player. He creates so

1100
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: much separation, catches the ball goes down, avoids contact. I

1101
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: think he's still got a few years left in the tank.

1102
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: And right now he's fallen. Like outside of the third

1103
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: and fourth round, you can get Keenan Allen so late

1104
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: in drafts and he still can be a top five guy.

1105
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you, d Hop. Where are

1106
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: we at?

1107
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 5: Oh Hop? I think Dave and I both have the

1108
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 5: same thoughts on this. We love the player, we.

1109
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 6: Kind of liked that he might get some volume, but

1110
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 6: it's gonna be limited volume with Ryan Tannehill in that

1111
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 6: that Titans offense. I think it worked when it was

1112
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: Aj Brown and he's catching fifty yard bombs and he's

1113
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 6: scoring double digit touchdowns. I don't know how much that

1114
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 6: still happens with DeAndre Hopkins. So he gets a little

1115
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 6: bumped down, but I'm not I'm not saying no to him,

1116
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: but I'm not actively targeting.

1117
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm happy for him though he got the bag. He

1118
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: got a lot of money, and I'm happy for him.

1119
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of getting the bag, I mean, this is what

1120
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: did he get fifteen million dollars?

1121
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, that.

1122
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 7: Was an unbelievable Did you get fifteen million dollars? Fifteen

1123
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: million guaranteed? Like he doesn't even have to play a game.

1124
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 7: He could he could hurt himself in practice tomorrow and

1125
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 7: get his fifteen million dollar check. I don't know who

1126
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 7: his agent is, but I need to get in touch

1127
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 7: with him because he pulled some magic there. So happy

1128
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 7: for Odell Beckham Junior and getting the bag, but man,

1129
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 7: I want nothing to do with him in fantasy football

1130
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 7: this year. I just wrote up about Odell Beckham Junior. Actually,

1131
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 7: it's gonna come out in one of our staff roundtable articles.

1132
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 7: I think he's going to be the fourth option in Baltimore.

1133
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 7: I think we're Shaan Bateman, Zay Flowers, and Mark Andrews

1134
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 7: are all going to get more targets than him. I mean, hey,

1135
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 7: I'm happy for him, but I don't want him on

1136
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 7: my fantasy team.

1137
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: This is all great. I'm not going to keep you

1138
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 2: guys much longer. I really appreciate this. Every season, tight

1139
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: ends you don't want to draft them, but then you

1140
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: need them. Travis Kelce destroys you. You know, if you

1141
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: don't have them, and then you're like, I need a

1142
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 2: tight end. You know, some weeks your tight end wins

1143
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: you a game. Some weeks your tight end is like,

1144
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: what is your philosophy on tight ends? This season is

1145
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: there's a lot of hype on Laporta in Detroit, Kincaid

1146
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. Just give me your overall twenty twenty three

1147
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: Fantasy football tight end philosophy.

1148
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: I think that there's three guys that I'll pay up for.

1149
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, if you get him in the first round,

1150
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: you're not gonna go wrong there. Mark Andrews, you can

1151
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: get him in like the late second, early third round,

1152
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: he'll pay off there. Outside of that, there's really only

1153
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: one guy that I'm willing to pay up for. If

1154
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 3: I can't get Darren Waller, who I think is going

1155
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: to be the number one pass catcher for the Giants.

1156
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: If I can't get one of those three, Kelsey, Waller

1157
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: or Mark Andrews, I'm pretty much wait until the very

1158
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: end of my draft. I'll just throw it at darted

1159
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 3: whoever's available, and I'm probably just gonna end up streaming

1160
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: tight end anyway. I don't want to fall for those

1161
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: middle round traps because it happens every single year where

1162
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: you draft these guys in like the seventh, eighth, ninth round,

1163
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: they suck, you dropped him from your roster by week

1164
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: three and end up streaming anyway. So if I can't

1165
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: get one of those three guys. I'm just waiting till

1166
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: the very end and I'll figure it out during the season.

1167
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 5: Yeah wow, Okay, I'm the same thing as Dave.

1168
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 6: Like, that's the philosophy at the tight end position is

1169
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 6: you either go great or late you get one of

1170
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 6: those top two guys, or you just wait because you've

1171
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 6: got so many players that end up very similar. We

1172
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 6: talk about running back from the mid rounds that like outproduce,

1173
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 6: same thing happens at tight end. You got these like

1174
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 6: athletic young guys, the David and Joke. Who's Greg dulcicch

1175
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 6: Tyler Higbee? Dave wasn't he like tight end four or

1176
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 6: something like that? Throughout like the back end of last

1177
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 6: year you got Gerald Everett, Jawan Johnson. Like, there's so

1178
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 6: many names of these athletic tight ends that you're drafting

1179
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 6: with one of your you know, fourteenth round picks that

1180
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 6: you don't really have to invest heavy on.

1181
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, greater or late, that's it for tight end.

1182
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: I hear you, how early would you would you go

1183
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: on Travis Kelce if you're in a for a twelve

1184
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: man league? Would you pick him in your first round?

1185
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: So I've got him fifth off the board. That's where

1186
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: I'm taking him. I want those wide receivers first, but

1187
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm taking Travis kelce before, I'm taking Christian McCaffrey before

1188
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: I'm taking Austin Eckler. And I'm not advocating for this.

1189
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I would do it. But if somebody

1190
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: took Travis Kelcey as the number one pick off the board,

1191
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: I wouldn't really judge him that much. You know, he

1192
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 3: gives you such a positional advantage like you are getting,

1193
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: like he's putting up top two, top three wide receiver numbers,

1194
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: and you could play him at a position where everybody

1195
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: else is hoping for five points a week. So yeah,

1196
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: if you want to take him as early as the

1197
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: first pick off the board, I wouldn't judge anybody for it.

1198
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: We've talked quarterbacks, We've talked wide receivers, we've talked running backs.

1199
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: The one name that has not come up in this

1200
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: conversation is a pure football player. I consider him a

1201
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: family member. He's probably my favorite fantasy football player. Deebo

1202
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: Samuel is. If it was a tsunami and I saw

1203
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel on the side of the road and he

1204
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: had a flat tire. I would pull over, get out

1205
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 2: of my car and tell him to take my car.

1206
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: I love Deebo Samuel. I don't know how his name

1207
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: hasn't come up in this conversation. What's your take on

1208
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 2: Deebo and everything that's going on in San Francisco right now?

1209
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: So I've been doing fantasy football content for a few years.

1210
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 3: I don't want to say like I got famous from

1211
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel, but that was like my big, like claim

1212
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: to fame. Going into the twenty twenty one offseason, I

1213
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: was all over Deebo Samuel, drafted him in all of

1214
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: my leagues. I had like one hundred tweets from that

1215
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: offseason saying Deebo Samuel is going to be the guy,

1216
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: and he blew my expectations away, Like I thought he

1217
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: was going to be like maybe you know, a top ten,

1218
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: top fifteen guy, and he was the number two fantasy

1219
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: receiver behind only Cooper Cup. But I think that that

1220
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: year was kind of an outlier. And this is tough

1221
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: for me to say, because like watching Deebo Samuel the

1222
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: football player, watching his highlights, watching what he does on

1223
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: the field. He's one of my favorite players. But he's

1224
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: been in the league for four years now, and in

1225
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: three of those four seasons he was a wide receiver three.

1226
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: In one of those seasons he was an elite wide

1227
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: receiver one. And in that season they drafted Tray Sermon,

1228
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: who was a bust. Elijah Mitchell got hurt and then

1229
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he's taken goal line snaps and

1230
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 3: he's getting what was it like thirteen touchdowns or something

1231
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: like that. Now it's a very different offense. Now they

1232
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: got Christian McCaffrey in there, and Christian McCaffrey is taking

1233
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: all of those touches that made Deebo Samuel so valuable

1234
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. So it's tough for me to say,

1235
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: because Deebo Samuel was like the guy that really helped

1236
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: me kind of propel my my career in this industry.

1237
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: One of my favorite players is to watch. But I

1238
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: am not drafting him that much this year unfortunately. Wow,

1239
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: I know it's tough. It's tough. Hey, listen, there's a

1240
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: lot of mothers defeed.

1241
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: Man.

1242
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: They got Brandon Ayuk, they got George Kittle, they got

1243
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. There is a lot a lot of really

1244
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: good players on that offense, and it's just the numbers game.

1245
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: You know, there's only so many touchdowns and so many

1246
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: yards that can go around.

1247
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: My number one, my number one line to live by

1248
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: when it comes to fantasy football is there are no feelings,

1249
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: not one. There's no feelings in fantasy football, zero point

1250
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: zero feelings. Bring your feelings somewhere else. Do not bring

1251
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: them to a draft. Do not bring your feelings. My

1252
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: final question for you, guys, what does a Sunday look like.

1253
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: For you guys?

1254
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: Is there TVs? Is there monitors like Alfredo? Are you

1255
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: home or you're at a bar you had a friends

1256
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: of What does it look like?

1257
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 6: So last year was very stressful Sunday mornings because you're

1258
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 6: trying to one you're trying to set up all your rankings,

1259
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 6: one who follows you and takes your advice has those

1260
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 6: rankings ready to go. Then as an analyst, you're also

1261
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 6: doing like these live start sit things where you're on

1262
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 6: air for a good hour taking questions and then at

1263
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 6: the very last minute you're like, oh damn, I gotta

1264
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 6: go run and set all my line up so and

1265
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 6: make sure that I've got everything right. So, yeah, it's

1266
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 6: a little stressful once the games actually hit. I am

1267
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 6: parked on my couch for eight hours of commercial free

1268
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 6: football with Scott Hansen an NFL red Zone, and I'm

1269
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 6: not moving. And I have told my wife this that

1270
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 6: when we get to those Sundays and the games are on,

1271
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 6: that is it. I love your grandma and visiting your family,

1272
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 6: but we are not doing that on Sundays.

1273
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 5: Have a good time on your own. I am just

1274
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 5: enjoying the game, Dave.

1275
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: I mean pretty much the same. Those mornings are crazy,

1276
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 3: you know, trying to relay injury information, and Alfredo and

1277
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 3: I were actually doing a live stream on Sunday mornings

1278
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: at YouTube dot com slash football guys, so you can

1279
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: hop in there ask all your start sit questions and

1280
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: we'll address them live. But uh yeah, I mean Sundays

1281
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: during the NFL's season. Is there like a more beautiful

1282
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 3: day in the world, Like it's amazing I sit on

1283
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: the couch. I am lucky enough to be married to

1284
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: a huge football fan. My wife, Emily, she loves football.

1285
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: She loves the Bears. That's why I knew she was

1286
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: the one when our second date was going to a

1287
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: Bears game together. So we sit around we drink beer,

1288
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: We watch football. Sunday mornings are crazy, but as soon

1289
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: as the games kickoff then I am just tweeting bs

1290
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: for my phone and having fun and enjoying the games.

1291
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: And then Monday is when I dive back into the

1292
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: numbers and start watching them. But Sundays I watch the

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Speaker 3: games as a fan.

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Speaker 1: All right, well this was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I mean I could go on you know, more and more,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure you got seventy five other podcasts to

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Speaker 2: do and to host, you guys, The Football Guys Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Football Show. It's a great fantasy football podcast, plus your

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Speaker 2: YouTube show one more time. Where can the people listening

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Speaker 2: find you, guys with all your links, Twitters, your threads

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Speaker 2: and everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me. I'm only on Twitter, Like

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Speaker 3: I've got an Instagram.

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Speaker 5: That's just my personal changes name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry, yeah you can zee me or zallo me

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Speaker 3: on x whatever you want to call it. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can find me just my first and last name

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Speaker 3: at Dave Klugy. That's k l Uge. You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: find a lot of hard hitting the analysis on my Twitter,

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Speaker 3: if you're being honest, It's a lot of memes and

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Speaker 3: stupid jokes. And humor, but we do plug in and

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Speaker 3: take the football stuff real seriously on the podcast, so

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Speaker 3: you can check that out for sure, Yeah afraid.

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Speaker 6: And you can follow me on any of the social

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Speaker 6: media apps, the pretend GM everywhere, Instagram, threads, Twitter, x,

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Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 5: I'm there, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate this.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, I appreciate the insight, and I

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Speaker 2: appreciate the championship analysis because if you you know, we're

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Speaker 2: all about winning.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy football is about winning.

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Speaker 2: It's about destruction, it's about devastation, it's about fun, ass

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Speaker 2: kicking and trash talking, so.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys are all about it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys have taking the time, and I'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you during the season.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Mike, thanks for having us manhire you guys.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day, fellas.

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Speaker 4: M h m hm