1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: We are the biggest show in radio because of you guys, 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: all fifty states and bunches Bunches four hundred plus affiliates. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: We think all of you as we roll in third 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: hour here on the Thursday edition, and we are joined 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: now by the Commissioner of the Big Ten Conference, Kevin Warren. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Commissioner Warren, thanks for joining us. And I gotta say 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: right off the top, a lot of news coming down 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: in the college sports universe, with Texas and Oklahoma potentially 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: interested in the SEC. Where were you when you heard 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: the news and what was your thoughts as that spread yesterday? 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I was here in Indianapolis when I heard the news. 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: But you know, these things have been kind of circulating 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: from a rumor stampot point, you know, for a while, 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: so it did not you know, the actual news. When 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I heard it, it it was kind of like, Okay, I've 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: been hearing that for the last couple weeks. So yeah, 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting, and I just think it just reaffirms what 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I've said before, is that we're at a unique time 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: in college athletics and all of these different issues from name, 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: image and likeness to you know, the impact of the 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Austin ruling to college football, potential expansion, to potential schools 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: joining other conferences, all those different things are or where 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: we are in college athletics, And I think you're gonna 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: this will be the first of a lot of news 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: that will happen over the next three to six to 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: nine to twelve to two to three years. That's where 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: we are in college athletics, and then it'll be an 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: exciting time. If the SEC expanded to sixteen? Does that 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: as the SEC's primary rival, you're running the Big Ten conference? 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Does that to you signify that it would make sense 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: for the Big Ten to expand to sixteen? How would 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: you How would Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC if 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: it happened sort of alter the paradigm of your responsibility 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: as a commissioner of the Big Ten? Or would it 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: at all? Yeah? Well, I just think, uh, from from 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: a from a conference alignment standpoint, you know, these are 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: the things that that you always keep in mind as 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: far as you know where you are from a conference, 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: you know, what's the best interest of your schools from 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: a short, medium to long term. UM. And you know 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: that that's not something that I would just say, you 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: know causes, I mean just speaking from our conference, doesn't 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: you know, cause a conference like us to say, oh, 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: now we have to run out and figure something out. 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you always have to to do, you know, 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: what's in the best interest one of your of your 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: conference and also your student athletes. And so that's a 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: great question you asked. And then but it's a broader question. 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, what's the impact on media rights agreements, what 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: is the impact on bowl agreements. Let's the you know, 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: impact on you know, operational Are there any academic you know, 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: constraints or items that you need to make sure that 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you focus on. So all of those issues are are 56 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: are wide ranging. You know, it's something that I definitely 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: keep up on. Is something that I you know, I 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: always working through my own you know, personal plan from 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: a conference standpoint, always looking over the horizon. So I'm 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: just excited that, you know, we'll have an opportunity, like 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: I said, to start really working through these you know 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of issues. And so it'll be interesting to watch 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: and observe and uh and and and we need to 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: just continually focus on um, you know, just always, and 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, from a Big Ten standpoint is is what 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: what is the proper you know fit not only currently 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: but in the future in the Big Ten conference. Hey, Kevin, 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: it's Buck here, It's want to know the NFL, there's 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm good, sir? How are you? UM? 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Did to hear your voice? Thank you? Uh. NFL teams 71 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: will be forced to force if unvaccinated players cause COVID 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: nineteen outbreak. That's the New York Post just the last 73 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: few minutes. Now, I'm just wondering, is that something? How's 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: that going to work out for your conference? And if 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: you have any insight into just broader foot broader conferences 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: out there are, is it likely that they're going to 77 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: have a similar policy where if there's a COVID outbreak 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: on a team and they can't reschedule it within the 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: existing season, there may be a loss. Yeah. So one 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: of the things that's a wonderful question one of the 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: things we are working on. On June sixth, we had 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet with our chancellors and presidents at 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: our semi annual meeting with them, and they voted During 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: that meeting to really decinctralize our decision making process and 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: make sure that we provide those opportunities and decisions from 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: a COVID nineteen policy and procedure standpoint to our fourteen 87 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: individual institutions. We trust our schools, We trust their medical staff, 88 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: We trust the coaches and the athletic directors and the 89 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: chances and presidents and everyone involved on campus, and we 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: trust that they're going to do the right thing. That 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: being said, we're in the current process right now of 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: gathering those proposed policies that our fourteen institutions will come 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: up with, and we're scheduled to get those in early August. 94 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: And then once we get those, we have a system 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: that we're going to lay them all out and to 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: evaluate them and to see if there are any gaps 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: in what has been proposed and if there's anything that 98 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: we need to either at the conference level or at 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: the school level fill in to deal with some of 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: those questions. But the beautiful thing about is that we're 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: thirty seven days away from today of watching our kicking 102 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: off the college football season with watching Illinois playing Nebraska, 103 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: so we will we're right on time, We're right where 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: we wanted to be. We wanted to gather the information collectively, 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: come together to do this in a collaborative manner with 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: our athletic directors and our chances and presidents. Then make 107 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: a determination to see what those decentralized policies will look like, 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: in what role if any of the conference office will 109 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: pay a play in that. And then once we get it, 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: then we'll we'll take it public and announce it. And 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: but we'll have it done and plenty enough time before 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: the kickoff of our season on it's coming up here 113 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. We're talking to Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren. 114 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned name, image and likeness. It's a crazy time 115 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: in terms of all the adjustments that are going on 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: in college athletics. What do you think the impact going 117 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: to be? And maybe more important, when you were a 118 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: college athlete, what product would you want to endorse? Would 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: there have been a restaurant, would there have been would 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: there have been somewhere that you would have wanted to 121 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: be able to say, I'm Kevin Warren and I love 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: this product. Where was your place? Right? I love that question. 123 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: I think nil is quite naturally, it's here to stay 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: and it's just part it would become part of the 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: fabric of college athletics. It has become and part of 126 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: the fabric college athletics. And I think, you know, the 127 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: schools the conferences that are able to kind of figure 128 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: out how to how to to handle NIL from a 129 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: positive standpoint, will will, we'll do, you know, do better 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: than other schools and conferences that do not how to 131 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: figure out how to handle it. But you know, the 132 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: student athletes deserve this, you know, I believe that I'm 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: a big believer in that they have earned this right 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: to monetize their name, image and likeness. My concern is 135 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: always is to make sure that they're educated on how 136 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: to handle it because a lot of people think money 137 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: is numbers. Money is not a numbers. It's just a 138 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: different language. And so when you get involved with money, 139 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: you need to understand that new language. You know, what 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: are the tax implications, how can you invest it? You know, 141 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: how do you handle it? You know the impact of 142 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: the team, the impact on your family, and just to 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: be you know, smart about it, because at the end 144 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: of the day, you have to keep the main thing, 145 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: the main thing. If a student athlete is approached by 146 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the NIL opportunities because they're a good student athlete, and 147 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: so you want to remain a good student athlete. You 148 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: want to focus on your craft and grow and learn 149 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: and practice and prepare to be able to do that. 150 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: So I'm excited, you know, for it. As I said, 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm all for our student athletes learning. And the thing 152 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it most is I think it will 153 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: be an actual apprenticeship for our student athletes to learn 154 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: about business, about branding, about marketing, about sales, and and 155 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: really about business to activate their brand. So that's the 156 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: thing that makes it most exciting, you know for me 157 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, Can I ask you, I know you, 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: who would you have endorsed? Sorry, I would also ask 159 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: you who you would endorse? Yeah? Who? Who? Who I 160 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: would have endorsed that? That is a wonderful question. Um, 161 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of was kind of I was a low, 162 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: low level person in college meeting. I wasn't you know, flashy, 163 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: So it definitely would not have done a jewelry company 164 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: or closed company. I probably would have done something with 165 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: probably like leather goods. I was really into My dad 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: carried a briefcase. Uh and so I people still tease 167 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: me I had a briefcase in high school and uh 168 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: in college, and so I probably would have loved to 169 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: do like a really nice upscale leather goods company to 170 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: carry my books around my college campus. And so it 171 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: would have been great to be able to do something, um, 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, with with a company like that. Kevin, what's 173 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: it been like to be in this role during COVID 174 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: obviously changed a lot of things up from I'm sure 175 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: what your expectations were trial by fire, but also quite 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: an experience. What have you learned? Yeah, I mean I've 177 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: learned the importance of making sure you know that you 178 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: have to have collaboration, you have to communicate, and when 179 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: you think you've communicated everything, keep communicating. And so I 180 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: just have learned that that it's really important. So one 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: of the things I'm really focusing on again, you know, 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: this year, is to make sure that our chances and 183 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: presidents and athletic directors and are on campus constituents and 184 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: people in the conference office, that we have clarity in 185 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: our communication and probably over community communicate and to make 186 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: sure when decisions are made that our chances and presidents 187 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: and athletic directors and head coaches and fact athletic representative 188 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: as a senior one of administration illustrators. All the individuals 189 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: on campus are involved, clearly involved in you know, in 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: that process. And so but and the other thing I 191 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: learned learned is just that we need to count our blessings. 192 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: We all to think about what you all do on 193 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: a daily basis is it's amazing. And to have an 194 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: opportunity of people had told you years ago that you 195 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: would have a chance to have a successful show like 196 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: you have, you know, uh, this is a dream come true. 197 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: And so I just always have to recognize that our 198 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: goal here is to create a conference and environment that 199 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: allows our student athletes the opportunity to be student athletes. 200 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: They are not professionals, they're amateurs. To get a world 201 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: class education from one of our fourteen main schools and 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: some of our affiliate schools and then have a chance 203 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: to compete at the highest level in college athletics and 204 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: compete for national championships. That's really what the mission of 205 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: is here. And I think so long as we keep 206 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: those priorities in mind, and U and it's so good 207 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: to be here at football the day, see the coaches 208 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: and see ours two and athletes addressed them suiting ties 209 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: and and and looking good, speaking very well. He just 210 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: reiterates of why the Big Ten is the Big Ten 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: and and it's a special place to to be able 212 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: to work here. Kevin Warren, we appreciate the time, good 213 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: luck pursuing members fifteen and sixteen to try and match 214 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: the sec Yeah, okay, I appreciate that, and uh and 215 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: both of you all. I appreciate the work you do. 216 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Every time I come on, I really enjoy it. And 217 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: congratulations on your success. Keep it going. And here I'm 218 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: here for you anytime you call. And then I look 219 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: up forward to seeing you all in person. So have 220 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: a great day and thank you for the time. Thank you, sir. 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: That is Kevin Warren, Commissioner the Big Ten. And as 222 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: we go to break here we look Dan and New 223 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: York said. I wasn't particularly satisfied with the Relief Factor 224 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the first time I tried it. I've been for ten 225 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: to twelve years a semi pro bodybuilder. I was getting 226 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: ready to have a shoulder replacement done prior to COVID nineteen. 227 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: Then I was listening to the radio and hearing the 228 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: Relief Factor commercial over and over again. I decided to 229 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: try again. And it's like night and day. 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Close He has broken 262 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: this institution, made it undeniable. This panel has lost all legitimacy, incredibility, 263 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: and it shows exactly what I warned back at the 264 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: beginning of January that Pelosi would play politics with this. 265 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Pelosi has created a sham process. Unless Speaker Pelosi reverses 266 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: course and seats all five Republicans, we will not participate. 267 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: We will run our own investigation. Welcome back to the 268 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Clay Travison Buck Saxton Show, January sixth Commission. You heard 269 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: there Kevin McCarthy talking about the sham of this commission 270 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: that Pelosi's pulling together. Remember she blocked Jim Banks, Representative 271 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Banks and Congressman Jim Jordan and play We're having Congressman 272 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Jordan on tomorrow. Yeah, he's a I mean, just a 273 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: fantastic guy. But he's gonna be on with us in 274 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: the second hour of the program. By the way, we 275 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: just talked to Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren and Jim Jordan, 276 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: big sports fan and also a Big Ten alum. But 277 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: this goes to the incredible hypocrisy and sham investigation that 278 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: is going on into the quotation marks insurrection buck right. 279 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: This is just designed to be a story that I 280 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: think is at its best for the Democratic Party, going 281 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: to distract from all the other failures that are going 282 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: on with their leadership, and it is going to continue 283 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: their theme of Republicans are dangerous, they want to destroy 284 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: the democracy of the United States. Right, that's really the 285 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: theme of this. And if Jim Jordan is going to 286 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: push back aggressively, which he would have then and probably 287 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: make better arguments than many of the Democrats, on this committee, 288 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: then they don't want that battle to actually be taking place. 289 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: The big problem as I see it, with this, even 290 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: apart from what's obviously going to be an incredible, biased 291 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: and politically charged effort to smear the purpose of the 292 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: January sixth Commission, is to smear all Republicans, to undermine 293 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: all Conservatives. Not not the people who actually engage in 294 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: the riot, Not just the few hundred people that went 295 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: too far. No, no, everybody, anybody who is on the 296 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: right gets lumped in with them so that they can 297 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: create a narrative of if you support let's say, oh, 298 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't know Donald Trump where he do run again, 299 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: or even to support the Republican Party that Donald Trump 300 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: will be on the stump for out there on the 301 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: campaign trail, supporting in the mid terms, you are de 302 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: facto supporting the insurrection. But Clay, what's so fascinating about this? 303 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: We can get into more of these details, and also 304 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: where we are with Biden and crime, which is a 305 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: big problem for the Democrats. Will discuss how they're just 306 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: full of it on crime. But a big problem they 307 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: have is if they really want to use this as 308 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: a commissi for Congress they're gonna have to show us 309 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: the thousands of hours collectively of surveillance footage inside the 310 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Capitol that they have, and they will not release. Why 311 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: why can't we see what happened? Why can't we know? 312 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: Why can't we know who shot Ashley Babbitt? And why 313 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: what was a legal justification? Why can't we see the 314 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: communications between different members of Capitol Hill Police and the 315 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: hierarchy and other security organizations and agencies leading up to 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: and the day of January six to see what the 317 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: heck happened there? We should be using this to see 318 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: how could this go on? But Clay, that's not the 319 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: point of this. In fact, they're hiding the very reason 320 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: that you would have such a commission. They're hiding evidence 321 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: that we should see from that well, and not only that, Buck, 322 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the big sham here is we had months 323 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: of riots that nobody wants to examine at all, all 324 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: over this country, with very real consequences that are more 325 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: substantial than what happened on January six, and everyone is 326 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: pretending that they didn't happen at all. If you choose 327 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: to believe Google, all you need to do is surf 328 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: the internet privately, an incognito mode and you're not gonna 329 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: be tracked right wrong. 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That's Express vpn dot com 340 00:18:50,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: slash clay in Buck. This is James gold and host 341 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: of the podcast series Rush Limbaugh, the man behind the 342 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: Golden EIB microphone. The next episode in our series is out. 343 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: Make sure to listen wherever you get your podcast. We're 344 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: sharing so many behind the scenes stories remembering the man 345 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: we love. My Pillow and Tunnel to Towers Foundation are 346 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: both sponsors. The Democrats normalize anarchy. They normalize rioting and looting, 347 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: and when rioters and looters attacked our law enforcement personnel, 348 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: When rioters and looters, destroyed small businesses. What did Democrats do? 349 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: They went out and raised money to bail them out 350 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: of jail. And they continue to talk about defunding the 351 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: police and in fact did that in all these major 352 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: urban areas, which is why crime is up. So they 353 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about that stop. They just want 354 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: to be partisan. They just want to continue to attack 355 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: the former president. They want to play their political games. 356 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: So I applaud Leader McCarthy for saying, we're going to 357 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: do our jil We're going to continue to work and 358 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: get to the bottom and answer the questions that the 359 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: leader raised, the questions that frankly, the American people want 360 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: answers too. Strong words by Jim Jordan there welcome back 361 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: to the Clay and Buck show. And what the congressman 362 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: is saying is obvious to all of us. I still 363 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: remember what I refer to as the Purge night here 364 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: in New York City, where you had a rampaging Antifa 365 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: mob on Fifth Avenue, main shopping district, breaking store windows, looting, 366 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: They broke into department stores, broke into cell phone stores, 367 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: stole stuff all and just running rampant all night long. 368 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Those are Biden voters. Okay, these are Democrats, leftists. This 369 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: happened at different times in different places all over the 370 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: United States. And if you're really thinking about insurrection, I mean, 371 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: if you're looking about insurgency, you would look at what 372 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: happened and say, this is a way to pressure a 373 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: not just a government, pressure of society to collapse clay 374 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: to start to undermine law enforcement, to make it impossible 375 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: for them to do their job, to create a culture 376 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: of lawlessness, and to make people afraid in their own 377 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: neighborhoods unless they go along with the mob. There has 378 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: been no accountability for that whatsoever. The media pretends like 379 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. The BLM uprising of twenty twenty was 380 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: a national disgrace, but we can't talk about that only 381 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: a January sixth riot. That's the only riot, not even 382 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: all the riots that took place all summer buck but 383 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: every major city they had boarded up all of the 384 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: city for election day and election night. They weren't doing 385 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: that if Joe Biden won. They were doing that if 386 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump had won. And so this idea, and I 387 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: think Jim Jordan nailed it. If you want to believe 388 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: in lawfulness, which I think most of our listeners do, 389 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: and certainly you and I do. Then you have to 390 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: apply the law evenly to everyone can, which is what 391 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: I've heard most Republicans say. Look, if you are going 392 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: to prosecute people for breaking the law as a protest 393 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: turns into a riot, that is what American police and 394 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: American district attorneys should do. But pretending that the January 395 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: sixth incident was anywhere near as dangerous, or long lasting 396 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: or significant as the BLM riots of the summer is 397 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: a fundamental untruth. And so on the one hand, as 398 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan said, Democrats were bailing out everybody who was 399 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: being arrested during the BLM protest. Can you imagine the 400 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: reaction if Donald Trump were raising money to bail out 401 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: people involved in January sixth. Let's look at that juxtaposition 402 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: for a second, and because yes, you're absolutely correct, but 403 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: it even goes in the far opposite direction, where you 404 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: have people who have been held in solitary confinement allegedly 405 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: for their own protection. But actually when you see the 406 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: court filings which I have read, you will see on 407 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: some of them, you will see that the judges say 408 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: we can't let them out because of the threat of 409 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: another insurrection, and in at least one case, so called 410 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: QAnon Shaman, it's clear the guy has menial health issues. Yeah, 411 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: keeping this person in solitary confinement as though he's a 412 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: threat is inhumane. But the frauds at CNN, the Washington Post, 413 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: the New York Times, the ACLU, the left wing narrative apparatus, 414 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: not even media apparatus, has nothing to say about this 415 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: other than it's necessary to protect our sacred democracy. And 416 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: you know something else that comes to mind, Clay, this 417 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: plot against Whitmer, which was used right before the election. 418 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: You remember, Oh my gosh, Whitmer was pro lockdown, and 419 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: now there's a plot against her. Of all these people, 420 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: we find out a dozen FBI informants and or agents involved. 421 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: One of the FBI agents in the alleged Whittmer plot 422 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: has now been arrested for severe spousal abuse, assaulting his 423 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: wife after a taking her to a swingers party. So 424 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: this individual up on the stand, it's going to be 425 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: quite quite a scene. I can that's a cross examination 426 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to watch. I mean, you want to talk 427 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: about a heck of a of a situation. But to 428 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: your point, the entire process by which this was sold 429 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: as if this were a well organized plot designed to 430 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, designed like with a military precision, all 431 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: of these things which basically we had told to us. 432 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: It looks more and more like a government in many 433 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: ways manufacture this entire story. I'm having a harder time 434 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: when conservatives in good faith come up to me at 435 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: events or they see me on the street. They want 436 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: to talk to me, and they'll come to me. They'll 437 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: have a theory. Maybe you could even say it's a 438 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, but they'll have a theory about something. They'll 439 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: say to me, Buck, not only do I think the 440 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: FBI had informants on January six on Capitol Hill switching 441 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: from Whittmer to Capitol Hill January sixth, for a second, 442 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: I think the FBI really spurred this on. And I'll say, well, 443 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, we don't really have the evidence yet, and 444 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: they'll say to me, can you tell me that that's 445 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: not possible? And I sit there and I say, no, 446 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: I actually can't tell you that's not possible, because the 447 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: next thing they'll say to me is, what about the 448 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: fact that the entire mainstream media apparatus lied four months 449 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: about Officer sick Nick on January six being beaten to 450 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: death with a fire extinguisher, right, fundamentally did not happen 451 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: and would have been provable and just a matter of fact, 452 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: certainly within four eight hours of the initial incident. The 453 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: guy died two days after the event actually happened. He 454 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: as we know, he died of a stroke. And yet 455 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: the reporting on this was beating. You could just go 456 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: back and see beating to death with a fire extinguisher. 457 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: These were murderous insurrectionists. That was a vicious and intentional lie. 458 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: So when things like that happened, and that's a matter 459 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: of fact, and then people say to me, a dozen 460 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: FBI agents. Therefore the inception of the Whittmer plot, and 461 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: this is all before January dozen A dozen, by the way, 462 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: you know this better than most people. That's a major effort. 463 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: And my men informant, So if I mixed, but yeah, 464 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: a dozen informants, and you know, people were basically they're 465 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: being handled by their handlers. Are FBI agents from inception, 466 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: this plot never really made sense. And nope, they're taking 467 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: it to trial. Only one person has taken some kind 468 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: of a plea. Everyone else is going to trial on 469 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: this one, because if you're taking this kind of a thing, 470 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: the trial usually it means you think you've got a 471 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: fighting chance, otherwise the sentences are going to be so severe. 472 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: But we're getting the point, Clay, where until there's accountability 473 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: for the lies, the lies about Officer sick Nick being 474 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: beaten to death, immedia lied about that, not the lack 475 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: of willingness to tell us what happened to Ashley Babbitt, 476 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: who shot her? And what's the legal justification for it? 477 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: Why can't we see the Sirvalance footage from January sixth 478 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: until we have answers to this. When people come to 479 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: me and they have a theory, all I can say, 480 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: and that's assuming I don't agree. Sometimes I do, sometimes 481 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: I don't. But all I can say about some of 482 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: these theories that they have is I can't tell you 483 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: you're wrong, just based on the faith you should have 484 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: in the DOJ and the FBI, because I come from 485 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: the CIA, and I have very little faith whenever politics 486 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: are involved that you can trust these places. And I 487 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: think that speaks to the overall lack of trust in 488 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: American institutions in general, which continues to decline. We talked 489 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: earlier this week about the two least trusted groups in 490 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: all of the country, and what do you think's involved here? 491 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Congress and the media were the two least trusted groups 492 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: in the entire country by the masses. I think one 493 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: Congress has a twelve percent approval rate according to a a 494 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: recent Gallop poll, and the media has a sixteen percent 495 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: approval rate. That both of them are directly involved in 496 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: January sixth, right. And so when you look at situations 497 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: like these, I can understand why people at a minimum 498 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: will want to point out the hypocrisy, and certainly at 499 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: an additional minimum, don't buy into face value explanations they're 500 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: having shared with him. Another explanation that no one should 501 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: buy into is that Democrats are doing a good job 502 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: on crime, got this thing under control. Biden wanted to 503 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: tell folks, we're about it, We're on it. We've got 504 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: no joke, we got it. It's not true. He does not, 505 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, I always says that Clay not a joke. 506 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Not a joke. No one thinks he's joking. It's like 507 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: somebody who you ever meets one who says no offense 508 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: at the time, just say no offense man, but it's 509 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: really sunny outside. You're like, that's not how you say that. 510 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden does that with not a joke. You know, 511 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: say I went for a walk with the grandkid today, 512 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: not a joke, not a joke. No, is that entire 513 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: CNN special journalistic special. By the way, I need to 514 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: read you how CNN we talked about this before the 515 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: show started. I realized I still haven't done it. When 516 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: we come back, I need to read you CNN's headline 517 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: coverage of CNN's town hall with Joe Biden. People will 518 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: absolutely love it, and but I absolutely love it. I 519 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: mean want to jump off a bridge. We'll talk about 520 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: it next. If we've learned anything since twenty twenty, it's 521 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: that there's nothing quite as important for your overall health 522 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: as a powerful immune system. That's why over twenty years ago, 523 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: naturopathic doctor Dennis Black of Texas invented the incredible Texas Superfood, 524 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: the original super food. 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We 543 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: are finishing off the Thursday edition of the show. I 544 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: am here in Los Angeles, US, the mask capital, unfortunately 545 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: of all of America. Our thanks to Big ten commissioner 546 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Warren, who joined us earlier in the program, also 547 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: want to encourage you go subscribe to the podcast. You 548 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: can give us five stars. You search out my name, Clay, 549 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: search out Buck. We also, as always want to say 550 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: thanks for the four hundred plus stations out there that 551 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: are encouraging and allowing us to have the biggest audience 552 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: anywhere in radio. And we appreciate all of you in 553 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: all fifty states who were listening along to us right now, 554 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, the Joe Biden ridiculous town hall. I wanted 555 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that I mentioned how CNN covered said 556 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: town hall. It is true insanity. This was CNN. They 557 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: had this on their CNN Breaking News in the wake 558 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: of the Joe Biden town hall. How will you address 559 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: gun violence from a federal point of view to actually 560 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: bring about change and make our local cities safer. Now, 561 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm not being a wise guy. There's no reason you 562 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: should have you seen my gun violence legislation I've introduced, 563 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: as you know, because you're so involved. Actually crime is down, 564 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: gun violence and murder rates are up. Unless I'm the 565 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: only guy that ever got pasted legislation when I was 566 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: a Senator to make sure we eliminated assault weapons. The 567 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: idea you need a weapon that can have the ability 568 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: to fire twenty thirty forty fifty, one hundred and twenty 569 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: shots from that weapon, whether it's all, whether it's a 570 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: nine millimeter pistol, or whether it's a rifle, is ridiculous. 571 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: That's Joe Biden talking about the crime which is out 572 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: of control. We're going to talk about some tomorrow as well. 573 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: And it reminds me a little bit of DC Mayor 574 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: Marion Barry, who famously said DC doesn't have a crime 575 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: rate except for the murders. When you say crimes down 576 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: except for the murders, it's kind of an important part 577 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: to not have a lot of murders. But what I 578 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: wanted to hit you was CNN covering this town hall. 579 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: You heard us play a lot of those different clips 580 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the show. In his CNN town hall, 581 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: This is CNN Breaking News, Biden tackled COVID nineteen vaccine 582 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: hesitancy and misinformation and delivered some tough economic love as 583 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: he discussed pressing issues. Does that sound like an accurate 584 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: reflection of what we saw and heard from Joe Biden 585 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: as CNN Quote reports on their own town hall, Joe Biden, 586 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: everything he says he will continue to say and in 587 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: the same way for the duration of his presidency, because 588 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: everything that he's been saying for forty years as a 589 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: Democrat is essentially the most mediocre pablum you could ever 590 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: come up with. I mean, it's just, you know, folks, 591 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna know little clash and fair shot and people 592 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: sitting down looking at the bowl in front of them 593 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: and thinking America. And you know, you're just you sit there, 594 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: you say, what is this idiot actually rambling about? But 595 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: that's everything with him all the time. I mean, there 596 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: was you remember when he was supposed to be the 597 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: foreign policy brain of the Obama administration. That was initially 598 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: why he was the vice president. They just whatever they 599 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: want to say about Joe, they'll say about Joe. It 600 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Yeah, and we're gonna talk about this 601 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: with Jim Jordan tomorrow in the second hour. Encourage you 602 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: to listen to that conversation. But I think what you're 603 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: seeing is while the Democratic Party claims that they care 604 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: a great deal about disinformation, and in all of those 605 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: assorted aspects, they are the disinformation masters. I mean, you know, 606 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm reading Harry Potter to to my six year old 607 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: right now, and the Democrats in many ways have mastered 608 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: the dark arts. If you've been reading or watch those 609 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: films at any point, it's really kind of amazing how 610 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: they are so adroit and adept at accusing Republicans of 611 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: things that they themselves are doing and doing more effectively. 612 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it was amazing. That's a favorite tactic. The 613 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: favorite during the Obama years that I recall was Obama 614 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: always just smashing arguments that Republicans were making, except they 615 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: weren't actually making those arguments, but he would pretend, you know, 616 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: he'd be like some people say, everyone Americas should starve 617 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: or death and we all hate our own children. But 618 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: I disagree that was the Obama move. In the Biden era, 619 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: the classic Democrat attack has turned into we you know, 620 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: they're undermining our democracy, while oh, I don't know, a 621 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: bunch of Texas Democrats are absconding from Austin and not 622 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: allowing the state legislature to act, or not allowing people 623 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: to leave to leave their homes and go to their 624 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: churches during COVID. I mean, I think the threat from 625 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: democracy people are the ones who are are we was 626 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: talking about it. It is amazing and the guy who's 627 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: really good at talking about that, Jim Jordan. He's gonna 628 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: join us tomorrow. Encourage you to hang out with us 629 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: for the second hour. We can't wait to finish out 630 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: the week with some fun. Also, the Olympics are starting. 631 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: There's no telling what's gonna happen. Buck, there was a 632 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: waitings team. First of all, team go Sweden's all I 633 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Okay, they don't kneel, and I like 634 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: the Swedish lady soccer players. I'm just putting it out there. 635 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: They're nice America, they work hard. I say, go Sweden. 636 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: And then there was a handball team that didn't want 637 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: to wear the little short shorts. You know they gotta 638 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: do you see that. They gotta trouble funk about that. 639 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: And Jim Jordan's gonna help us put communism in a 640 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: half Nelson tomorrow, which is gonna be a lot of fun. 641 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: We got that to look forward to. Please check out 642 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on our various Twitter and Facebook, 643 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: follow me Facebook dot com, slash buck Sex, and follow 644 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: Clay Fuck you Tomorrow. You're listening to Clay Travis and 645 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. The EIB Network h