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Speaker 1: hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian broad Us, Taylor Stern, and Rob Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody on a Wednesday here at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. That Cowboys are getting set to take on

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Speaker 1: the Raiders for Sunday night football. But before we get

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Speaker 1: into all of that talk, how's everyone doing today? Good world,

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Speaker 1: Tay doing good. Yeah, you have a good birthday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was really good. Thank you recovered? Yeah, ready to roll,

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Told you like twenty five years ago

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Speaker 1: it had probably been a little different, but right now

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Speaker 1: we're all right, little tamer right, Yeah, that's good. Back

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Speaker 1: in the day it wasn't so much team. But hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, the coolest thing is that when he did

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Speaker 1: have a birthday four years ago, somebody gave you a

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Speaker 1: very special cake. Yeah, Sean Lee cake. That was funny.

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Speaker 1: That was nice of everybody to do that. Shaun Lee

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Speaker 1: showed up in his fifty is jersey my fiftieth birthday

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Speaker 1: with a fifty cake and so yeah, it was one

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Speaker 1: of the it's one of the great things that's ever

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Speaker 1: happened to me as far as like you talk about

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Speaker 1: surprises and stuff like that. I was just sitting down

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Speaker 1: in a desk all of a sudden Sean like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I heard it was your birthday. He had this cake

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Speaker 1: with the candles litting everything. I thought that was really cool.

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee, what a great guy. He is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Jalen Smith, you know, we could maybe ja Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe not Jalen because I said they shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have drafted him. So he's probably not too happy. We've

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Speaker 1: taken that back sense that I've I've made some mistakes

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Speaker 1: in my day. Yes, Well, the Cowboys will get set

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Speaker 1: to play the Raiders this week. And before we get

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Speaker 1: into that, Rob, you know, you were in coach Garrett.

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Speaker 1: He was giving a lot of updates on some of

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Speaker 1: the injuries we'll be watching throughout the week. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like Orlando Scanders making some progress that he would

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Speaker 1: be involved at least in some individual type stuff today

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Speaker 1: and see if he progresses from there. Doesn't sound like

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Speaker 1: David Irving will practice today, maybe do some stuff on

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Speaker 1: the side coming off the concussion. But that sounds encouraging

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Speaker 1: as well. So maybe as the week goes on, you

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Speaker 1: might see him come back as well. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: the two starting tackles, Tyran and Lyle, will not practice today.

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Speaker 1: They've been managing their workload, especially on Wednesdays. But it

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Speaker 1: sounds like Lyell will be back at practice on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: which means he's doing better with the back that has

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Speaker 1: sidelined him the last couple of weeks. Yeah, did you

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Speaker 1: guys get a chance to hear him on Cowboys Hour

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Speaker 1: this week with Bradsham No? I did not, Yes, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think Lyle Collins has such a great

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Speaker 1: attitude about most things. He's a really personable guy. If

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Speaker 1: you've ever had a chance to be around him, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just funny. They kept teasing him the whole time,

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Speaker 1: like you don't practice. Yeah, it was just pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, obviously that hasn't been an issue, you know

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Speaker 1: in the past two games. No, it hasn't. And that's

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Speaker 1: you know, I to be honest with you. You know,

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Speaker 1: as we coach Garrett always talks about he wants this

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Speaker 1: guy's to practice, and that's first and foremost. But it

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Speaker 1: has been really unique that he's been able to miss

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Speaker 1: his much. I mean and you don't see busts, you

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Speaker 1: don't see problems with you know. And maybe that's because

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Speaker 1: Zack Martin is so good at his job that she

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, you kind of got a guy.

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Speaker 1: If that was somebody, a rookie player, they had a

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Speaker 1: lesser player than Zack Martin there, I think that you

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Speaker 1: would be pushing for Lyle Collins to practice, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just because you know that that with Martin, you

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Speaker 1: because he'll clean up some of your mistakes if you

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Speaker 1: have some tug rob one of your Twitter polls last week,

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Speaker 1: and I think Mickey and Brian agreed. Craig may have

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Speaker 1: been wrong, but that Lyle Collins is one of the

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Speaker 1: most improved players this season. Yeah, I think he won

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Speaker 1: the poll. He did. And when you consider what Brian

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Speaker 1: up that David Hellman. He put together a list, he said.

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins draws Khalil Mack this weekend in Oakland, which

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Speaker 1: is just the latest elite pass rusher he's had to face.

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Speaker 1: The list of Collins matchups features twenty three combined Pro

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Speaker 1: Of course Livia Vernon last week. Yeah, welcome to right tackle.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I thought that was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the easy one. Yeah, that's what they say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny that you say that. But nowadays

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Speaker 1: two quality rush ins. That's a good point. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean Livier started on the Yeah, I mean opposite

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Speaker 1: mean people would say, okay, well what about Vick Beasley

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Speaker 1: And you know, Bruce Servant is no slouch the for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders this week. So there's another team that will

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Speaker 1: But at least that's a good sign. And the other

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Speaker 1: but Charles Tapper was out there on the chords right,

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Speaker 1: so he's been at least cleared to do that stuff,

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Speaker 1: although they told him he wouldn't be ready until another

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Speaker 1: I did he take more like a series of yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is an injury that he's dealt with twice now

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Speaker 1: because Jalen Smith's actually played better. You know, maybe that's

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Speaker 1: stealing maybe a serious here or too. Maybe two Also

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Speaker 1: though they felt like the Giants, I mean even though

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Speaker 1: serious right about I thought you were tongue in cheeking

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Speaker 1: you never want Slee. Yeah, but but that he Mickey's right.

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Speaker 1: to get guys off and on. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, Bryce Butler,

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Speaker 1: very excited to return to Oakland, his former team where

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Speaker 1: he first started his NFL career. Right, is his foot

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Speaker 1: going to be an issue moving forward or we don't

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Speaker 1: see that. It didn't sound like he was going to practice.

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Speaker 1: He's out there in pads, but it didn't sound like

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Speaker 1: he was going to practice. Yeah, so they would probably

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Speaker 1: give him another day with that foot. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mickey always makes a good point about Wednesday practice.

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Speaker 1: Kind of take it for what it is. Thursdays and

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Speaker 1: Fridays are the ones where you're gonna, Okay, the guy's

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Speaker 1: Before we get to any more news for the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to the phone lines and a

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, Nabby is on the line. Uh

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Hey, yeah, uh uh do you uh? Do you? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Do you all believe as I do? Uh that Shawn

448
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: Lee is just as valuable to our team as Zeke is.

449
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Speaker 1: And I just want to say that in order for

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Speaker 1: us to beat the Oakland Raiders, we have to put

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Speaker 1: our pressure um on uh Derek a car and we

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Speaker 1: have to get uh uh sex as well as force

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Speaker 1: him uh to hold the ball longer um uh uh

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Speaker 1: uh uh. We have to force him to hold the

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Speaker 1: ball uh longer uh uh than he wants to. And

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Speaker 1: before I go, I just want to say that we

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Speaker 1: we as fans, have absolutely no right to throw anything

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Speaker 1: at players, coaches, or anybody uh uh for that matter,

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Speaker 1: and anybody who who uh who who chooses to do

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Speaker 1: those things uh should be banned from all NFL stadiums.

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Speaker 1: Take care, thanks for being patient with me, and have

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Speaker 1: a great week. By thanks Nebbi. Great points he brought

463
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Speaker 1: up because of the fact, you know, I've heard in

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Speaker 1: Coach garrets press commence. I think it was Dave asking

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Speaker 1: Coach Garrett what he thought about Derek Carr, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and what he'd seen from him, and he mentioned a

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Speaker 1: lot of what Nebby just brought up. So really good points, yeah,

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00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: really really good points. Yeah. And this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a difficult game from the aspect of the pass

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Speaker 1: rush because what's going to happen is that the Raiders

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Speaker 1: very similar to the Cowboys and their way of protecting

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. It's a big offensive line. It's I think

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Speaker 1: Rob talked about it almost like in the nineties when

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Speaker 1: they had those, with the exception of Mark Stepanowski. You know,

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Speaker 1: Huts in the center though, is a very athletic guy

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Speaker 1: likes But they've got some very big guys and you

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Speaker 1: know it'll be uh, you know. The matchup though. The

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Speaker 1: good matchup though, is with Marshall Newhouse at that right

479
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Speaker 1: tackle spot against Lawrence. Now, what will happen is I

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00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: don't see the Raiders just allowing Lawrence to play against

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Speaker 1: him one on one. I think they're gonna put somebody

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Speaker 1: over there. I think they're gonna chip him. I think

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Speaker 1: they're not. They're not gonna let him rush. Be nice

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Speaker 1: if David Irvin could play in this game, because these

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Speaker 1: guys they'll struggle with movement and I want a little

486
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Speaker 1: bit better movement from my defensive line in this game.

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Speaker 1: Make these guys have to chase you a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and that's what they have. But if you rush these

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Speaker 1: guys down the middle, Derek Carr will have all day

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Speaker 1: to throw the football and even though the receivers have

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Speaker 1: had problems catching it, they're capable of making plays down

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Speaker 1: the field. He's only been sacked seventeen times. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: they've done a good job. They're getting the ball out

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Speaker 1: or protecting him. He was saying, they don't have a

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Speaker 1: prolific passing attack, but got the ball out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they'll They'll see what happened last week the Giants did

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Speaker 1: to DeMarcus Lawrence. There was a couple of times they

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Speaker 1: had two offensive linemen him, like he couldn't spin inside

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Speaker 1: because the guard was picking them up. Yeah. So Carr

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00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: hurt his back in week four, got that old dreaded

501
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: transverse process. Yeah, fracture. That's not a product of poor

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Speaker 1: protection up front. You still see doing a pretty good job. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that overall, like Mickey said the seventeen you know,

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Speaker 1: I watched the last two games. Kansas City, you know,

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Speaker 1: can put pressure on you, and I thought they did

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Speaker 1: a pretty good job of holding up overall in that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Giants got nothing really on him as well,

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Speaker 1: and they've got a couple of good guys. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a difficult task to have

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Speaker 1: to deal with these guys because they are so big

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Speaker 1: and they lean on you. The whole game is lean

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Speaker 1: on you, lean on you, lean on you. So again,

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Speaker 1: keep guys moving that's where when they're reaching, is when

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Speaker 1: they get in trouble, when everything is over extended or

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Speaker 1: off balanced. That is when they're at their worst. And

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Speaker 1: he's right about throwing stuff at people. Yeah, good point.

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Speaker 1: Now I'd send them guys into the stands after him. No,

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Speaker 1: we don't want violence. We don't want we don't want

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Speaker 1: that type of behavior either. You know. But if we

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Speaker 1: want to stay on the topic of controversy, and we've

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Speaker 1: been talking a lot about officiating this week, of course,

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Speaker 1: this is the first time that the Cowboys will be

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Speaker 1: seeing Gene Sterator I always pronounced can never say right.

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Speaker 1: He'll be officiating the game on Sunday. And if you

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Speaker 1: guys don't know his name, I'm sure you do if

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Speaker 1: you were watching the twenty fourteen playoff game when, of

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00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: course the catch no catch decision was called the game.

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Speaker 1: He was a guy guy, He was a guy, and

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Speaker 1: and Jeane's an interesting guy because he's very much a

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Speaker 1: He's very much a you know, they'll be wearing long

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Speaker 1: sleeves and he pushes up his sleeves so you know,

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00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: you got hockey will just go short. Sleep well, Gene

533
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: is like a very much push up to sleeve and

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a no nonsense guy. He's one of

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Speaker 1: these you know, you have the call, he's kind of

536
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Speaker 1: holding offense. He's like, you know, let's get to the line.

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Speaker 1: Come on, you know, he's one of those let's keep

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Speaker 1: it going. Yeah, let's keep it going. But you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: He was. And I want to say this is I

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Speaker 1: want to I believe I'm right about this. He was

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Speaker 1: a referee in the Seattle Jacksonville game last week. He

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00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: got out of hand. And a weird thing is is

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Speaker 1: they only called three holding calls. Yeah, yeah on the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. No, So it doesn't sound like they're big

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Speaker 1: on holding. No. But he's very much a kind of

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00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: a no nonsense he's a he's a he's a brass

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00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: tax kind of well, he's a basketball official too, so

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00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: he's used to getting yelled at. You know, he's one

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00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: of those guys. He wouldn't mind adjecting Lebron James. No,

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00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: he probably he had no qumps. But yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: college basketball official when he's not doing NFL game okay,

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00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: and so he but he Yeah, he refereed the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: game last week, which got out of hand at the end,

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00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: and then again, Tay's right, that playoff game at lambeau Field,

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00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: he was part of that, but he was referee in

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00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: an all star crew, so it wasn't his crew that

557
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: was causing all the mayhem. I think he got influenced

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00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: on that decision by New York. There's no doubt about it.

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00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Because we were standing on the sidelines and when because

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00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: right across the field from us was the replay boot

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00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: or the replay box or whatever they would call that

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: thing now, and he walked the ball was right in

563
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: front of us, and he walked right back to where

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00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: the ball was thrown on fourth down. And I when

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00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: I saw him walk that way, I knew. I looked

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Speaker 1: at Helm and I said, you're right, we're not going

567
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: to get this one. And sure enough he you know,

568
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: and that was the only challenge that Mike McCarthy won

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Speaker 1: all year. Yeah, well, you know, we bring up the

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Speaker 1: holding because he knew who it was in New York. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 1: we know, we bring up the offensive holding calls. The

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Speaker 1: Dallas defense has drawn this season seven in total, four

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Speaker 1: of those in September. Yeah, so it's pretty crazy. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: they went three weeks, they've gone five weeks to stretch

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Speaker 1: where they haven't had any and I'm gonna say this,

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00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: they haven't played offensive lines that are that great, you know,

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Speaker 1: great good enough to say, Okay, this line is just

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Speaker 1: so good they're not going to hold you. Yeah. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: sometimes you play the Cowboys, I mean, you know, when

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Speaker 1: they get a holding call. You know, when a Tyron

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Speaker 1: Smith gets a holding or Zach Martin or Fred whoever

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Speaker 1: gets a holding, you're kind of like going, k really

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00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: that okay, that is holding. Yeah, But you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: generally you're not gonna when you play a team it's

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00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: got really good lineman, you're not gonna get holding calls.

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00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of these teams have not

587
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: had really good offensive line. You have three All pros

588
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: on your offensive line and they're getting called from our

589
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: holding calls than you know, than yeah, the other team.

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00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. Uh. And on top of that,

591
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: you have a defensive line that has gotten pressure this yeah.

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00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like they've struggled getting into the

593
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: past or you have the second leading sacker in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So it is. It is surprising, and I'm sure you know,

595
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have talked about it with the league trying

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Speaker 1: to get them to take a closer look at it.

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Speaker 1: You think only two holdings in ten games is not equitable,

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Speaker 1: I would say, seem that way. You got a theory

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Speaker 1: for it. You know, I don't subscribe to your conspiracy

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00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, but I think it's incompetency. Sometimes. I think

601
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: what happens as you go along in the season, these

602
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: referees try to let the games be decided by the players.

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00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: I think the last three weeks, the next, the next

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Speaker 1: three weeks, the Cowboys are probably not going to get

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Speaker 1: any holding calls. But then again, I don't think holding

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Speaker 1: is gonna be called on them either. You know, I

607
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: might be totally wrong about it. I mean, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: You've got a couple of games here. You've got good

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Speaker 1: pass rushers here against Oakland. You've got good pass rushers

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. And of course we'll see what happens in

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia with that game if they play them. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling what happens when it gets down

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Speaker 1: to the end of the season. My experience has been

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Speaker 1: that these officials, like Gene, I think they'll stay out

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Speaker 1: of this game. I really do. I think they just

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Speaker 1: want to move the game along. Let the players decide it.

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Speaker 1: If if there's something egregious that needs to be called,

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Speaker 1: call it, you know. But they they will let some

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Speaker 1: things go in these games. But the problem for the Cowboys,

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00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: it's been going on all year and now get ready

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Speaker 1: for you know, the official Yeah, I don't think the

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00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: officials want to insert themselves in these games now when

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Speaker 1: it means you either win or you you win or

624
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Speaker 1: you go home. I don't think they want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of that. That's the that's the league just

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Speaker 1: doesn't want it. What were you going to say, Rob,

627
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Speaker 1: I agree with that. It's just if it's blatant, call it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt a lot a lot of

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Speaker 1: this is subjective. But if you see a guy taking

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Speaker 1: somebody of the ground, I mean you have to call

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't care, I'm going to

632
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Speaker 1: get picky on you. Okay, his hands were outside on

633
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Speaker 1: the shoulder pads, they weren't inside. But when you start

634
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: grabbing guys around the waist, you gotta call it, and

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Speaker 1: especially from behind, gotta call it. I mean, it's exactly

636
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Speaker 1: what happened in the playoff game last year against Green Bay.

637
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: David Irving's gonna sack Aaron Rodgers, right, and a guy

638
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Speaker 1: the center guard grabs him from behind and tackles when

639
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: it goes beyond the fifty fifty. Hey, you could call

640
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Speaker 1: holding here. Yeah, let's see it once again. It's a

641
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Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, I don't care. That's and I don't

642
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Speaker 1: care if it was the last game of the season. No,

643
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Speaker 1: and you're and you're right and that. But that's the

644
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: experience that we've had. I know, my experience is it

645
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Speaker 1: tends when it gets to the end, these officials trying

646
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Speaker 1: to stay out of it. You know, it's it's like

647
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: it's not as it's not as bad as hockey playoffs.

648
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Speaker 1: Hockey playoffs is the best when it comes to you

649
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: basically have to take your stick and just smash somebody

650
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: in the face with you to get a call. NBA's

651
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: like that too. You get to a game seven and

652
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: they just they yeah, but we're we're talking whistle, we're

653
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: talking ten games, we're talking it's open. Yeah, we're over

654
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Speaker 1: We're over that. I mean, you're not, but you're not. Don't.

655
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Speaker 1: Like Rob says, if you see it, they're gonna call it.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't have a feeling it's gonna be

657
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Speaker 1: with with so many games, now you might get a

658
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Speaker 1: game where two teams it doesn't matter it, the game

659
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Okay, you get your but but the league knows. Okay, hey,

660
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: it's now win or go home for these teams. So

661
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Speaker 1: let's make sure that we're not affecting the way the

662
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Speaker 1: game goes one way or another. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why Seattle has been successful in playoffs they let their

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Speaker 1: dbs get away with murder. Well, that's New England was

665
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: the same way for years. New England in that Ram

666
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifteen years ago, was hey, we're gonna have you,

667
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna dare you to blow the whistle and

668
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Speaker 1: throw the flag down every time. And if you didn't,

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Speaker 1: if you if you got away with it. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you see them not making calls, is Gene stairs stores

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Speaker 1: stairs from his crew doesn't make calls, then play go,

672
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Speaker 1: play going. But if you're the Cowboy rushers right now,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not going to get calls. You cannot

674
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Speaker 1: let that affect you going into this game. You're playing,

675
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: gets a really good your player gets a good offensive line,

676
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Speaker 1: protection wise, you better, you better find a way to win.

677
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Speaker 1: On your technique because you're not going to get it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to this just don't go don't hold them either. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines. Now we have Ray

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Speaker 1: from New Orleans. What is your question? Heywall doing doing great?

681
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Speaker 1: Thank you. We had a great time in New York.

682
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: We went to the game. I'm just riding this way.

683
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens coming up. Yep. I guess my

684
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Speaker 1: question would be when Zeke comes back, do you guys

685
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Speaker 1: think he'll be like five carries a game or do

686
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Speaker 1: you think that would I'm sure it's got to take

687
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Speaker 1: some time. And then maybe um our kicker Dan Bailey

688
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: and he struggled this week, but maybe they're still a

689
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Speaker 1: lingering a lingering of injury there. I'll just call and

690
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Speaker 1: talk a little cowboys and say hello, and we had

691
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Speaker 1: a great time with the game. And my out of

692
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Speaker 1: all the scenarios, thinking to the playoffs, you guys are

693
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Speaker 1: talking about yesterday and fans are looking at the schedules.

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Speaker 1: Also the Lions, man are the ones that worry me

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Speaker 1: the most because they only play I think Sea Cincinnati

696
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Speaker 1: and they may they may win out. That's my biggest

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Speaker 1: spear right there. The Lions schedule. If we can win

698
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Speaker 1: our games, thank you. I think the Lions are at

699
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Speaker 1: least of their worries. Yeah, don't they play the Packers though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, Packers finish up the year with the Lion. Yeah,

701
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Speaker 1: they do, they do. You know, I think it's exciting

702
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Speaker 1: and every year you look at that Week seventeen schedule

703
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Speaker 1: and it's obviously all divisional games, and it's it's always

704
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: fun to see and makes a huge difference. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: Lions got Chicago at Cincinnati and Green Bay, but they're

706
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Speaker 1: they're it can't be better than the Cowboys. No, so

707
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Speaker 1: if we know, the Cowboys gotta win out, so they

708
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: would both finish at ten and six. Yeah, so I

709
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: just then it comes down to the tiebreaker. I have

710
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Speaker 1: a feeling, actually you would like to get in the

711
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: tiebreaker with Detroit in a three way, right because because

712
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Speaker 1: then that would throw away the head to heads the

713
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Speaker 1: head stuff, right. Yeah. See, that's the thing about it is,

714
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Speaker 1: though you have to figure out, you know, with the

715
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Speaker 1: with the way the situation, I think the fifth seed

716
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Speaker 1: in this tournament is going to be the second place

717
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Speaker 1: team in the NFC South. I think it's either gonna

718
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Speaker 1: be Atlanta Carolina or the Saints. Yeah, it still could

719
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Speaker 1: be the West. Well, I don't know. I have a

720
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Speaker 1: feeling though, because if you could take care of you

721
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Speaker 1: beat the Rams, the Rams, the Rams could beat I

722
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Speaker 1: think you need the Rams to beat the Seahawks myself.

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Speaker 1: I think you need the Rams to win that division

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Speaker 1: because they've already beaten you. Am I right about that?

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, just so, yeah, so you get them

726
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Speaker 1: out of the way, let them take care of Seattle,

727
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: get them another loss, and then you take care of

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Speaker 1: them next week and they play this Sunday, Yeah, and

729
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: then get ahead of them. That's that's how you have

730
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Speaker 1: to do that, you know. But I think a rant

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Speaker 1: a Seattle victory there, I think is not good for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but I think the fifth the fifth seed and

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Speaker 1: the Sea Now you're playing for the sixth seed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now who that's gonna come down to? Who that's gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to? Seattle's in that spot right now? Am

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Speaker 1: I correct about that? Right? Okay? We need to get

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Speaker 1: Seattle out of there. Actually, Atlanta's I think just above them,

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Speaker 1: are they? I thought for some reason that that seat

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Speaker 1: I thought Atlanta was still sitting in the in the Carolina, Atlanta, Seattle. Okay, five,

740
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Speaker 1: six and seven right now? Yeah, okay, there you go.

741
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Speaker 1: You need you need you need some help from Tampa too,

742
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Speaker 1: and that's who knows. Yeah, you're not luck with them.

743
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Speaker 1: Yeah you've I've asked for help then the last couple

744
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: of weeks and it just hasn't. I don't think they

745
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Zeke steps right in and they give

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Speaker 1: them twenty five carries. I think they'll do something closer

747
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Speaker 1: to what they did with Sean Lee and give them

748
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Speaker 1: a series here in a series there to sit out. Yeah, Rob,

749
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Speaker 1: I saw you posted it about Dan Bailey earlier today

750
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Speaker 1: and coach Garrett gave an update there for Ray. Yeah,

751
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't. They don't believe it's it's a lingering thing

752
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: with his with the growing injury, growing hamstring, whatever you

753
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: want to call it. Tough day at the office. I

754
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: think that's that's kind of what happened and extremely rare

755
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: for him. I think they fully expect him to bounce back.

756
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: And again, I mean those were a couple long field goals,

757
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: tough place to kick. It's the extra point that kind

758
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: of puzzles you a little bit. But as the poll

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Speaker 1: will show, potentially next segment. I mean, he's arguably the

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Speaker 1: most steady guy they got. Hey, great segue, Rob, Let's

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Speaker 1: take our final break. When we do come back, we

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Speaker 1: heart to do your part supporting the boys no matter what.

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Speaker 1: That's why when the game's on the line, you're on

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Speaker 1: This is talking Cowboys. Hey, are you guys gonna get

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Speaker 1: some Papa John's pizza this week? YadA always because those

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Speaker 1: get you some Papa john some game that you're just

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Speaker 1: gonna be riveting. You want to watch? Yeah, they're all. Hey,

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Speaker 1: any team that gets sick gamble on the games. Nicky,

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Speaker 1: I'll watch him, you know. So we ended at it

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Speaker 1: Rob's Twitter pool. I'm assuming it has something to do

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Speaker 1: with steady players. Yeah, I think Brian, you might have

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Speaker 1: brought this up just kind of off the cuff yesterday. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is Bailey throughout his career the most steady guy on

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Speaker 1: this roster, just weekend week out his job performing, And

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Speaker 1: so I got curious, so I brought up four choices

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Speaker 1: sort of Really, it's like seven besides gold jacket Wit,

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Speaker 1: he's in a different category, stratosphere fifteen years. Who's been

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Speaker 1: the most consistent for the Cowboys over the years. Bailey's

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Speaker 1: an option LP latticer long snapper Sean Lee and I

823
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Speaker 1: didn't know how to separate these three all pro linemens,

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Speaker 1: so I put tyre In, Travis and Zach all together.

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Speaker 1: Guys got a choice. Wow, it's a good list. The

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Speaker 1: LP one was it was was really good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: don't you don't think about that pro bowler. I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: former deep snapper myself. He's had a couple of wayward ones.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you have a couple of wayward ones year,

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Speaker 1: you're not deep long Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what though, how many how many snaps in a row? Though?

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Speaker 1: Has lad As it's they haven't had a bad one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think not since I've been working with the team. Right.

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Speaker 1: There was a time last year actually was it was

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Speaker 1: the same time that the Cowboys were playing the Giants

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Speaker 1: last year, so Week fourteen, and it was very odd

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Speaker 1: because they had a Sunday night football game and all

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Speaker 1: these different long snappers were going out in games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, okay, well who's the cowboys backup

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Speaker 1: long snapper? Yeah? And obviously, you know superstition, you never

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Speaker 1: say anything. The special teams called oh did you ask? No? God,

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Speaker 1: I did. I got ripped you did before? Oh, I

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Speaker 1: know this is a this was a preseason game I

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Speaker 1: was doing. This was probably three years ago. And I

845
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: asked Bisaccia, like, I know, I was super I was doing.

846
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: I was doing the game on the radio with Brad,

847
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: and I asked I was on the field. I go, hey,

848
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Rich who, by the way, who is your backup long snapper?

849
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, just trying to have knowledge, Yeah, just trying

850
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: to in case something happened, you know, or question. I'm

851
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: doing the game. I don't want to get caught, you know.

852
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: Brad some well, Brian, who do you think you know?

853
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I I so he looked at me,

854
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: and I mean like F bomb after f bomb after

855
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, just I just go, hey, I'm doing the

856
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: game on the radio. He goes, I don't give up,

857
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: and then and I said, okay, I got I walked away. Homenger.

858
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: We found out that it was Emmett clearly because actually

859
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: in that game why I said that. You know, I

860
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: was thinking this before the game. I'm like, well, who cares.

861
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: LP's always always good. The very end, final quarter he

862
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: banged up his knee a little bit. Yeah, and it

863
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: was out for one series, I believe, but it didn't matter.

864
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Didn't matter. Yeah, Well, I would say I think man

865
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's a tough one too, because every time he plays,

866
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, good things seemed to be and he plays

867
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: so many snaps Anthony Hitchens now yeah, yeah, four and

868
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: out of the season with him and Hitch together, Yeah,

869
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: and everything he's asked to do in terms of you know,

870
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: he's kind of the point guard quarterback of the defense.

871
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: So what do you got? Mickey's he's studying, just doing

872
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: some studying here for my poll? Huh for your poll? Yeah,

873
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: where you got? You gotta write in or you gotta know. Okay,

874
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: who you got? Who won? We're not gonna say, You're

875
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: not gonna give a guess. We only have an hour

876
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: on this show, all right. The winner of today's pole

877
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: is LP lattice Er thirty eight percent, Dan Bailey right

878
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: behind it, thirty five special teams. They just stay consistent

879
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: and I think you could even have put Chris Jones

880
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: in there. Absolutely, Yeah, gotten better and better since he's

881
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: been here. I was counting up the kickers that have

882
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: had at least twenty extra point attempts, okay, and six

883
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: of them are perfect. Yeah, there's forty two listed here everybody.

884
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: But of the guys that had at least twenty, six

885
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: are perfect. So Dan Bailey's one short of perfect for

886
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: the first time in his life. Oh jeez. And it's

887
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: not a chip shot anymore either, by the way, So

888
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: you were saying Dan Bailey, dan Bailey was your consistent guy,

889
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: then yeah, I don't just you know what I mean.

890
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: I that was a really good pull because I was

891
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: thinking a lot of sore. We don't nearly talk about

892
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: him nearly enough shot. Yeah, and you know, and then

893
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey though, other than the miss, that's the one

894
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: that bothered me. The two fifty yards goals didn't bother me.

895
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: The extra point miss, extra point from thirty three yards.

896
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, don't let me have to kick one of

897
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: those thirty three yard field goals and have a miss.

898
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: I think he made an overcorrection, maybe because the win

899
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: was playing with the long field goal. Real quick story,

900
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: real quick calling, a high school game, state playoff game,

901
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna overtime. Kids. Made one hundred straight extra points

902
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: for Copell, and then he missed and they lost it.

903
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: They got knocked out the state playoffs third round on

904
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: a missed extra point. Made one hundred straight and that

905
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: that stright. Oh yeah, I mean that. But you think

906
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: about the kicking, the kicking, you just you take so

907
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: much for granted with Dan Billy. And then he makes

908
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: misses a field goal. He missed it hits the upright

909
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: and you're going, oh, okay, yeah, okay, it's fifty three yards,

910
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: tough chance. Then he has the ball just blow completely

911
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: to the right on the fifty yard and you're going, okay,

912
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: something's not right here. And then all of Saden well

913
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: cowboys go up. Everybody's cheering, cheering, cheering, extra point, no

914
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: good man, time out on the field. You're going, he

915
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: just missed an extra point. Okay, yeah, that doesn't happen.

916
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: What's And everybody just kind of goes in to the

917
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: refrigerator and gets a sandwich, you know where Nate and

918
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: I were sitting there like did he just miss another?

919
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Did he miss an extra point? Yeah? And then it

920
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: became well, something's not right with this, but he made one.

921
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: He did made one field goal? Was it twenty one yards? Yeah? Hey,

922
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: second most accurate kicker, Now that's right. Who's he behind

923
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: the Tucker? Oh no, And Tucker's got swacked. And that's

924
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: the one thing I really like account Dan Bill. He's

925
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: got some swack. I just don't think that he had

926
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: like Tucker kicked. I think it was Tucker's performed in

927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: front of the opera. Go. He had something where he

928
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: did you know, he had a very long field goal,

929
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: might have been sixty yards something like that, and he's

930
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: had sixty yards before and he kicks it and he

931
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: goes in and he does like you know, he's a

932
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: performer aladiator. Yeah, yeah, he's kind of a yeoman. Yeah,

933
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: he's a showman. Grammatica, Mickey. What's my guy's name at Philadelphia? Elliott?

934
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: Is it Elliot? Way to go? Tay to know your players? Right?

935
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: The other day in Los Angeles, he makes a sixty

936
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: two yard fuel goal. Oh yeah, we were all watching

937
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: that on the plane and they took they took it

938
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: off the board. They had they had a leverage call.

939
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: That that's something that you don't always see. They made

940
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: a leverage call and gave him fifteen yards and the

941
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Eagles took the ball and just kept driving. Yeah, but

942
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: here this guy kicks his sixty two yard field goal

943
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: and you will take that off the board. That's okay. Well,

944
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: and you look when Dan Bailey was had his Pro

945
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: Bowl season two years ago, when the team was four

946
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: and twelve. You look at that and you think, okay,

947
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: four and twelve. But really there were a few games

948
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: that season that they actually relied on him a lot.

949
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Of course, the big win in Washington. But I'm trying

950
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: to think. I think I as Joe Trehan, this the

951
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: other dairpr in RPR department, and he said, you know,

952
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: he couldn't really remember exactly which game was the last

953
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: one that they relied on Dan Bailey. He thinks it's

954
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskin and he's had ten in his career. Really,

955
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: see there you go. I mean, he's as respected as

956
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: anybody on the team, so he should have won the pull. Well,

957
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: he was right there. He was right there with his

958
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: fellow Operation kicker guy. Yeah, so that might be a

959
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: thing where the people take him for granted. Again, I

960
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: know I said that when he got hurt, because it's

961
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: like then you bring in Nugent, who's a solid kicker

962
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: but has struggled in those forty something yard kicks, and

963
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Dan has always been completely money from there bouncing him

964
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: off the upper right right. You know. Yeah, so the kicker,

965
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean the kicker, the deep snapper, so brought us

966
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: can be an expert on this. You don't have any

967
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: any elements of conditions there to affect your deep snap?

968
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Do you will the wind take a deep snap? You know,

969
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: it might move it, Yeah, it might move it like

970
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: that you see. But you know the biggest problem I

971
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: had One time, guy was throwing grass on my hand.

972
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: Who was down? You're down on the ground, I was.

973
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: I had my hands went there there, look down and

974
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: the guy I was throwing grass bits in the stance

975
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: on the top of my hand, like real grass, real grass,

976
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: like picking the like in the stance. He's picking the

977
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: grass up and he was throwing it on the top

978
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: of my hand. What team was this? MISSI state? What

979
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: you do? After the game, I went up to him

980
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: and I go, I've never had anybody do that to

981
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: me because I try and mess with people all the time.

982
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: I seriously when I was laughing, Oh yeah, we were

983
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: both laughing. But I had never had somebody throw grass

984
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 1: on my hand before. Now you can pick up the dirt,

985
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: the pellets, pellets, the pets. It was because I was like,

986
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: I was there and I looked down, I looked up,

987
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: look down, and also I feel like bits I look

988
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: up again and then I looked down. I'm like a snap,

989
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like and he kept doing it. Yeah, it

990
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: was one of those things that it was just trying

991
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: to be every time or just one time, just trying

992
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: to be irritating. You didn't go Jacksonville on him. No

993
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: unsportsman like conduct. There's things, there's all kinds of things

994
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: you will do to people. Oh and it worked after

995
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the game. Can you tell a guy's name? Darren Woodson

996
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: did a great feature yesterday on NFL Live. I don't

997
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: know if you guys were able to catch it, but

998
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: go look for it. He he interviewed Jalen Ramsey and

999
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: a majority of their interview was talking about how Jalen Ramsey,

1000
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: just a second year guy, has had so many trash

1001
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: talking stories. Oh yeah, you know, and what he does

1002
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: to getting guy's heads as far as covering big time receivers,

1003
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: and it was very interesting. I thought, you know, of

1004
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: course Darren is such a great guy to do that

1005
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: because he's such a nice guy. But oh, Darren will talk,

1006
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: will talk some trash too with you now, yeah, you

1007
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: will talk some trash, yes, in a in a good way.

1008
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: It was great. Let's go to David from Texas. What

1009
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: is your question? David? Hello, I want to say hid

1010
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: everybody's my first time to call in. I listen to

1011
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: you all when I walk. I walk twenty thousand steps

1012
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: today and I listen to you all all the time.

1013
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. Thank you, thank you, and try

1014
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: to get our steps. Glad we could help you out.

1015
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, thank you, Mickey. I've been listening out for

1016
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: so long. Listen, Brian, I got a question for you

1017
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: every part to pick your brain about this for so long.

1018
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: Can you explain please about zone blocking and what the

1019
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: opposite of that is, because I remember y'all talking about

1020
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: how Darren McFadden did not really fit into that pattern,

1021
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: and I wondered if if that was why we couldn't

1022
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: score touchdowns with him. But I just wanted to know

1023
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: if you could blame the offensive line blocks, Yeah, what

1024
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: we use and how that works supposed to whatever else thereis. Yeah, well,

1025
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: the difference is the course. The difference is zone blocking

1026
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: man blocking. Man blocking. Zone blocking is you take a

1027
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: read step and then if if that, if the man shows,

1028
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: and usually your step is based on the guy's knee.

1029
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: If the knee comes to you, he's your guy. If

1030
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: the knee goes away, you go up onto the second

1031
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: level or you go up on your path. So that's

1032
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of the zone blocking. Man blocking is Okay, that's

1033
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: your guy, no matter what. You know, you're responsible for

1034
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: the center's responsible for the nose, the backside guards responsible

1035
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: for the linebacker. So that's really really the biggest differences.

1036
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: It's just about the alignment of where guys are, and

1037
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: it's about the technique that you use. So you say, okay,

1038
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: where a zone blocking team man comes to you, he's yours.

1039
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: That's why you Sometimes you'll see like Frederick will pass

1040
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: the guy off to Martin behind him and then they'll

1041
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: just go up to say because you'll have two guys

1042
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: a response like the center of the guard a responsile for, say,

1043
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: the nose and the backside linebacker. And so that's what

1044
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: they do. It's it's a two on two block and

1045
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: it just happens to be. If the guy appears into

1046
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: your area, that's you take him, and then I'm going

1047
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: up on the second level. So you have to have

1048
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: a lot of coordination between the two on how you

1049
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: do things. So it seems like if if you had

1050
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: guys who were out for a while or new guys

1051
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: coming in and like we had to deal with this year,

1052
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: that would present more of a problem. I think that's

1053
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: probably why our running game stalled so much the beginning

1054
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, I won't take up anymore of

1055
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: your time, guys. I'm home sick today. I'm a teacher.

1056
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm home sick today. But I'm a huge Romo fan.

1057
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: But I love Dak too, so I'm really glad. I

1058
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: think the future is bright. Y'all. Have a merry Christmas

1059
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: in a happy year. Thank you, Thank you. Sounds like

1060
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: you would be a great teacher. Thank you, David for

1061
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: teaching absolutely so. In this zone blocking you got to

1062
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of trust for the guy next to you.

1063
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: Let a guy go and say okay, yeah pick you know,

1064
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: and again, like I say, most most guys will teach

1065
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: it as if the knee comes to you, it's yours.

1066
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: If the knee goes away, you're up and then you

1067
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: trust the guy and you trust and you trust. And

1068
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: that's why sometimes you'll see some guys backdoor plays and

1069
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the guy can't get over.

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00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: That's why cut off blocks and stuff are so important.

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: You'll see Travis, You'll see a Tyrn Smith and he

1072
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: does this great. He actually gets when he's cutting guys off,

1073
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: he will get depth like he's pulling. I mean he

1074
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: instead of going flat or inside to cut off, he'll

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00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: he'll take a deep drop and then he's so good

1076
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: at turning the corner that the guy, I mean he

1077
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: cuts the guy off before he gets to And what

1078
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: he does by doing that it allows when Elliott they

1079
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: take that ball and they'll push it and then they'll

1080
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: come back because he's just such a great wall. Him

1081
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: and Ron Larry were really good at that. I mean

1082
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: Larry Larry would throw more memory throw with the cut

1083
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: block more where Smith would stay up on his feet.

1084
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: But that's yeah, that's that's really how that zone block

1085
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: and stuff the work you do. You gotta have a

1086
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: lot of trust that the guy next to you is

1087
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: this reads it the right way. By the way he's

1088
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: on I R two. Yeah, I saw that. See that

1089
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: on Larry Yeah yeah, back back, Yeah, I hate that

1090
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: for him. I'm a big ron Larry fan. Great guy. Yes,

1091
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: are you headed to later today? I'm headed to Los Callinas,

1092
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: probably thirty minutes from here, going to the Four Seasons. Yeah,

1093
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: the spot. I got a hook there if you want to, Yeah,

1094
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: hang out golf, golf. You ain't get a couple of

1095
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: rounds in. Actually I'll be hanging out in the lobby

1096
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: probably waiting first. Actually, if you want the the like

1097
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: their nineteenth hole. The uh it's it's a restaurant on

1098
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: the green is what they can think that they call it.

1099
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: It's actually got a really good burger in there. If

1100
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead, IM go. Yeah, I'm gonna

1101
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: enjoy burger by myself. Wait on, Jerry, I knows meetings

1102
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: today in Dallas. I know the tennis pro could hook

1103
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: you up with a while you're wait, and we got

1104
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: all kinds of hooks for you there. Hey, great, got

1105
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: the buddy. It's a marketing director there. I mean, we

1106
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: got all kinds of stuff going. What are you expecting

1107
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: to hear from Jerry out there? Well, I just imagine

1108
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: every reporter from every walk of the country is going

1109
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: to be wanting to talk to him because you know

1110
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: the storyline about Roger Goodell's contract and Jerry's you know,

1111
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: thoughts on it, and you know, it's the first opportunity,

1112
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: I think since it's been done for all the owners

1113
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: to get together and it's Jerry's Jerry's backyard. So yeah,

1114
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: sometimes while I'm getting ready in the morning, I'll listen

1115
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: to YouTube videos or whatever, you know, just kind of speeches.

1116
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: I like to hear speeches, and Jerry Jones Hall of

1117
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: Fame speech came up. Of course, this was back in August,

1118
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: and what he said about Roger Goodell back then was

1119
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: a little bit different than what we've heard lately, and

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00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: it was very neat. Though. You know, I think I

1121
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: think Jerry just wants a good NFL. I he dies,

1122
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: all he wants is the NFL to sustain and have

1123
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: a bright view. He's trying to pass it on to

1124
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: somebody else, you know, and he's always talked about that

1125
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: that you know, the owners up the cowboys and stuff.

1126
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: But he's I don't disagree with him about Roger Goodell.

1127
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: I really don't. I feel like, you know, what you know,

1128
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: to me, if they've got the compensation where it's now

1129
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: down to you have to get certain bonuses and so

1130
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: you have to obtain certain goals. I'm all for that.

1131
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 1: But he's right, He goes, why are we jumping into

1132
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: this now? You know? Why? You know what? He I

1133
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: think he was eighteen months They don't. Yeah, so you're

1134
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: basically giving him a whole another year's salary, a year

1135
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: and a half of you know, extra salary, you know,

1136
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: and and why you know? I don't. To me, I don't.

1137
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it was the

1138
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: right thing to do. I think that I think Jerry's

1139
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Don't. Let's let's let's look at what we

1140
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: have ahead here, you know, let's let's you know, let's

1141
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: let's sit down with the commissioner and say, hey, this

1142
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: is what we don't like, you know, this is what

1143
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: we're doing good, but this is what we don't like,

1144
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, instead of just saying, okay, it's rubber stamp,

1145
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: let's move on. You know. I think there's some real

1146
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: issues that took place this year. There's some new challenges

1147
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: that have cropped up in the league, and it's not

1148
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: just handling issues of alleged to domestic violence, which is

1149
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: what you know. Obviously, that's what the Cowboys have been

1150
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: involved in with Zeke. And you see what happened in

1151
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: Houston the other day with that concussion thing. Yeah, oh,

1152
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Tom Savage, Yeah, come on, really that too. I mean,

1153
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's talk about that. Let's let's sit

1154
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: down and talk about discipline, like you said, you know,

1155
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about concussion. Let's talk about some of the

1156
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: benefits for me, for older players. I mean, let's kind

1157
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: of figure this out instead of just saying, okay, well,

1158
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: here's here's the NFL manual operating manual for twenty eighteen,

1159
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: and here's the one for twenty nineteen, and here's the

1160
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: one for twenty twenty. That's the way that that program

1161
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: tends to run. You know. I always make fun of

1162
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: it that they all know the train schedules going home

1163
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: to Connecticut, you know, but they're not thinking about you

1164
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: and I down here in this office. I think a

1165
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have the constitution Jerry he has

1166
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: for the unknown. Yeah, and so it's like, if you

1167
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: don't have Goodell as your commissioner, they get scared. Yeah,

1168
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do. Who are we gonna get?

1169
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: The game is already suffering, right, The game is suffering.

1170
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: And you know Jerry, he he doesn't want to see

1171
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: suffer and he loves that. He loves the underone to

1172
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: operate in the unknown. Are sure, and he's not afraid

1173
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, if you have to make change, you

1174
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: go back to what they did with the TV contract

1175
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: right when they got Fox involved. But he else was like, oh, oh,

1176
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: we gotta give money back, money back. We can't do that.

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00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: Who's gonna take you know? And then all of a

1178
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: sudden Fox pays more. Yeah. Well, thank you Rob for

1179
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: being our representative out there. I'm sure you'll have great

1180
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: news dot com when we are same time, same place,

1181
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: same people. Don't let him push you around. Thank you.

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