1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,177 --> 00:00:22,377 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode, 5 00:00:22,457 --> 00:00:27,337 Speaker 2: Jeremy Carl joins us. He has a really interesting new 6 00:00:27,617 --> 00:00:32,937 Speaker 2: book out, The Unprotected Class, How anti white Racism is 7 00:00:33,057 --> 00:00:38,697 Speaker 2: tearing America Apart. He's also a Claremont Institute fellow. Jeremy, 8 00:00:38,777 --> 00:00:40,657 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being with us. I'll just 9 00:00:40,657 --> 00:00:42,737 Speaker 2: start with this. You're writing a book that you're not 10 00:00:42,777 --> 00:00:44,457 Speaker 2: allowed to write. How is that going. 11 00:00:46,417 --> 00:00:48,617 Speaker 1: Well? Buck? It was. It was kind of a challenge, 12 00:00:48,657 --> 00:00:50,817 Speaker 1: and it was one of the things where I really 13 00:00:51,137 --> 00:00:54,377 Speaker 1: I didn't originally even try to shop this to any 14 00:00:54,417 --> 00:00:57,537 Speaker 1: of the big, you know, non conservative publishers. I went 15 00:00:57,537 --> 00:01:02,657 Speaker 1: straight to Regnery because with a topic like this, it 16 00:01:02,937 --> 00:01:04,577 Speaker 1: just I wasn't going to get in a war with 17 00:01:04,617 --> 00:01:06,657 Speaker 1: what I was allowed to write or what I wasn't 18 00:01:07,057 --> 00:01:09,497 Speaker 1: And so I was really fortunate that my editors understood 19 00:01:09,777 --> 00:01:12,417 Speaker 1: what I was trying to do and they've stood by me, 20 00:01:12,497 --> 00:01:14,737 Speaker 1: and that's that's been great. But as you can imagine, 21 00:01:14,737 --> 00:01:16,977 Speaker 1: this is not a subject that a lot of the left, 22 00:01:17,017 --> 00:01:18,377 Speaker 1: particularly wants to discuss. 23 00:01:18,577 --> 00:01:20,617 Speaker 2: I mean, I could start with this because I know this. 24 00:01:20,817 --> 00:01:25,297 Speaker 2: I've believed or not hosted shows with real leftists, I 25 00:01:25,337 --> 00:01:27,177 Speaker 2: mean not people who are not the thing they do 26 00:01:27,217 --> 00:01:29,617 Speaker 2: with CNN where they have like fake Republicans on who 27 00:01:29,657 --> 00:01:31,897 Speaker 2: just sit there and get I've tried to and it 28 00:01:31,937 --> 00:01:34,857 Speaker 2: never lasts very long because you can't really right. But 29 00:01:34,897 --> 00:01:37,057 Speaker 2: I've been in situations where I'm supposed to have conversations 30 00:01:37,057 --> 00:01:40,217 Speaker 2: with real leftists and one thing that has always come 31 00:01:40,297 --> 00:01:42,177 Speaker 2: up whenever the issue of race comes up is that 32 00:01:42,697 --> 00:01:47,577 Speaker 2: there I can't say official position, but the orthodoxy on 33 00:01:47,617 --> 00:01:53,617 Speaker 2: the left is anti white racism is impossible. How do 34 00:01:53,697 --> 00:01:55,737 Speaker 2: you tackle this in the book like explaining because that 35 00:01:55,737 --> 00:01:57,857 Speaker 2: would be their first objection. They would say, there's no 36 00:01:57,937 --> 00:02:00,777 Speaker 2: there's no such thing as anti white racism because of 37 00:02:00,777 --> 00:02:02,617 Speaker 2: the power dynamics in society. 38 00:02:04,217 --> 00:02:06,897 Speaker 1: Right. Well, even if you accept buck the view that 39 00:02:07,057 --> 00:02:11,217 Speaker 1: racism is prejudiced plus power, it just simply assumed that 40 00:02:11,257 --> 00:02:13,777 Speaker 1: white people have a bunch of power in our society 41 00:02:13,817 --> 00:02:16,017 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four that they don't. And what I 42 00:02:16,057 --> 00:02:18,177 Speaker 1: really lay out in the book kind of starting with 43 00:02:18,297 --> 00:02:20,897 Speaker 1: an overview of the civil rights movement and everything that 44 00:02:20,977 --> 00:02:22,857 Speaker 1: came from it, and then laying it out in twelve 45 00:02:22,857 --> 00:02:26,337 Speaker 1: different subject matter chapters, everything from looking at our education 46 00:02:26,497 --> 00:02:31,617 Speaker 1: system to crime, to Hollywood to healthcare to the military, 47 00:02:32,217 --> 00:02:36,177 Speaker 1: is how, in fact, it couldn't be less advantageous to 48 00:02:36,217 --> 00:02:38,777 Speaker 1: be white in twenty twenty four, and in fact, for 49 00:02:38,857 --> 00:02:42,137 Speaker 1: that reason, you see people fleeing from a white identity 50 00:02:42,177 --> 00:02:43,937 Speaker 1: whenever they feel like they can get away from that. 51 00:02:44,417 --> 00:02:45,937 Speaker 1: And you see that a little bit with folks like 52 00:02:46,017 --> 00:02:49,057 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, but you see it on the census, you 53 00:02:49,657 --> 00:02:51,737 Speaker 1: see it pretty much everywhere that if you can identify 54 00:02:51,777 --> 00:02:54,937 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, especially for a job application or 55 00:02:54,977 --> 00:02:58,137 Speaker 1: a college application, is something other than white, that's what 56 00:02:58,177 --> 00:02:59,857 Speaker 1: you're going to do. So to me, when you look 57 00:02:59,897 --> 00:03:02,897 Speaker 1: at racism being prejudiced plus power, doesn't sound like white 58 00:03:02,897 --> 00:03:04,777 Speaker 1: people have quite as much power as the left tries 59 00:03:04,817 --> 00:03:05,417 Speaker 1: to pretend they do. 60 00:03:06,337 --> 00:03:09,857 Speaker 2: And on this obviously there's so much that that goes 61 00:03:09,897 --> 00:03:13,817 Speaker 2: in this topic, but I think that one of the uh, 62 00:03:13,977 --> 00:03:17,617 Speaker 2: one of the challenges with it is you have to 63 00:03:17,697 --> 00:03:20,617 Speaker 2: make the argument that there are, uh, there are people 64 00:03:21,177 --> 00:03:24,617 Speaker 2: who a lot I always say the worst leftists and 65 00:03:24,697 --> 00:03:28,337 Speaker 2: like the most destructive people in America are far left 66 00:03:28,337 --> 00:03:33,577 Speaker 2: wing white Americans like like that, because you know, there 67 00:03:33,697 --> 00:03:35,857 Speaker 2: in a whole range of ways ideologically, I think they're 68 00:03:35,857 --> 00:03:38,857 Speaker 2: poisoning the country more than any anybody else. But one 69 00:03:38,857 --> 00:03:40,457 Speaker 2: of the things you come up against is they say, well, 70 00:03:40,497 --> 00:03:43,257 Speaker 2: how is it, How is it, for example, that there 71 00:03:43,257 --> 00:03:46,857 Speaker 2: can be anti white racism that white people support, meaning 72 00:03:47,177 --> 00:03:49,737 Speaker 2: affirmative action and all these things, right, Like, how do 73 00:03:49,777 --> 00:03:52,097 Speaker 2: you how do you explain and tackle that issue? 74 00:03:54,217 --> 00:03:55,777 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, and first of all, I agree with you, 75 00:03:55,817 --> 00:03:57,817 Speaker 1: and I say this Buck in the book that really 76 00:03:57,977 --> 00:03:59,977 Speaker 1: kind of the biggest villains on this are the left 77 00:03:59,977 --> 00:04:03,297 Speaker 1: wing whites, who are, many of them in elite positions 78 00:04:03,297 --> 00:04:06,937 Speaker 1: in society and factly run elite institutions. At the same time. 79 00:04:07,017 --> 00:04:10,817 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to rob agency of communities 80 00:04:10,897 --> 00:04:14,137 Speaker 1: or rob accountability from minority political leadership to the extent 81 00:04:14,457 --> 00:04:16,457 Speaker 1: that they've played into this, But I do think that 82 00:04:16,697 --> 00:04:19,457 Speaker 1: the whites have been in some ways the worst actor. 83 00:04:19,617 --> 00:04:22,937 Speaker 1: So I think there's some thing that's going on some extent. 84 00:04:23,457 --> 00:04:27,617 Speaker 1: I think they sort of solve as the good whites 85 00:04:28,057 --> 00:04:30,457 Speaker 1: and those other kind of people as the bad whites. 86 00:04:30,457 --> 00:04:33,297 Speaker 1: And hey, if you've got one hundred million dollar trust 87 00:04:33,377 --> 00:04:36,137 Speaker 1: fund or something like this, it's really easy to talk 88 00:04:36,137 --> 00:04:39,337 Speaker 1: about your privilege or your white privilege, because frankly, you're 89 00:04:39,377 --> 00:04:41,057 Speaker 1: never going to be held to account for it. You 90 00:04:41,057 --> 00:04:44,857 Speaker 1: can maneuver around whatever roadblocks and the system will hit 91 00:04:45,417 --> 00:04:48,297 Speaker 1: a average middle class white person. And so it's a 92 00:04:48,297 --> 00:04:51,137 Speaker 1: really cheap way of what we'd call virtue signaling. And 93 00:04:51,177 --> 00:04:52,937 Speaker 1: then so I think that's the easy part to explain. 94 00:04:52,977 --> 00:04:55,297 Speaker 1: The part that's a little more difficult to explain, and 95 00:04:55,337 --> 00:04:57,337 Speaker 1: I may explore a little bit in a follow up book, 96 00:04:57,777 --> 00:04:59,377 Speaker 1: is you really do see when you look at social 97 00:04:59,377 --> 00:05:03,457 Speaker 1: science survey data kind of every group first flight what 98 00:05:03,497 --> 00:05:06,137 Speaker 1: we would call it n in group preference black people 99 00:05:06,137 --> 00:05:08,577 Speaker 1: for her black people, Asian people for for Asian people. 100 00:05:08,857 --> 00:05:11,377 Speaker 1: And as long as that's within reasonable bounds, this is 101 00:05:11,457 --> 00:05:16,217 Speaker 1: not really unexpected or a problem except for liberal whites. 102 00:05:16,697 --> 00:05:20,297 Speaker 1: Liberal whites have a distinct outgroup preference, which is to say, 103 00:05:20,297 --> 00:05:23,897 Speaker 1: they find whites stupid or more criminal, etc. When you 104 00:05:23,937 --> 00:05:27,497 Speaker 1: ask them questions, and that is really hard to understand. 105 00:05:27,577 --> 00:05:29,777 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can only almost understand it 106 00:05:29,817 --> 00:05:32,657 Speaker 1: in the context of the fact that mental illness is 107 00:05:32,737 --> 00:05:36,697 Speaker 1: also hugely, hugely prevalent among liberal white people, and that 108 00:05:36,737 --> 00:05:39,337 Speaker 1: there's somehow maybe a connection between those two things. 109 00:05:39,777 --> 00:05:41,817 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's absolutely the case. I think that's 110 00:05:41,857 --> 00:05:46,977 Speaker 2: actually what drove during the pandemic. For example, you have 111 00:05:47,097 --> 00:05:52,337 Speaker 2: so many people who have left wing victim based politics 112 00:05:52,697 --> 00:05:56,977 Speaker 2: among the American white community, who I think also have 113 00:05:58,297 --> 00:06:01,097 Speaker 2: all kinds of anxiety and major depressive disorder and all 114 00:06:01,177 --> 00:06:04,097 Speaker 2: kinds of things like that that make them more likely 115 00:06:04,657 --> 00:06:10,217 Speaker 2: to want to have that kind of authoritarian control mechanism, 116 00:06:10,097 --> 00:06:12,097 Speaker 2: and that they're a part of that. They're all so 117 00:06:12,137 --> 00:06:14,417 Speaker 2: obedient to. I mean, you get very deep into the 118 00:06:15,217 --> 00:06:18,417 Speaker 2: psychological crevices of the left and becomes very scary very quickly. 119 00:06:18,857 --> 00:06:23,137 Speaker 2: But onto the non white component of this, or a 120 00:06:23,217 --> 00:06:26,377 Speaker 2: non white left wing component of it. I mean, to me, 121 00:06:26,497 --> 00:06:29,537 Speaker 2: it's very straightforward. And I feel like I even experienced 122 00:06:29,537 --> 00:06:32,577 Speaker 2: some of this in my own college years where I 123 00:06:32,577 --> 00:06:34,977 Speaker 2: would speak to if this came up, and it did. 124 00:06:35,377 --> 00:06:35,497 Speaker 1: You know. 125 00:06:35,537 --> 00:06:37,097 Speaker 2: I was a political science major, and we would have 126 00:06:37,097 --> 00:06:41,017 Speaker 2: these discussions where black students in particular that I came 127 00:06:41,057 --> 00:06:44,857 Speaker 2: across when I was in college were pretty comfortable just saying, yeah, 128 00:06:44,857 --> 00:06:46,697 Speaker 2: the system is unfair, but we like it and it 129 00:06:46,737 --> 00:06:48,977 Speaker 2: benefits us, and the system used to be unfair, so 130 00:06:49,017 --> 00:06:49,977 Speaker 2: this is the way it has to be. 131 00:06:50,097 --> 00:06:55,097 Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, well, I think this kind of gets into 132 00:06:55,137 --> 00:06:58,497 Speaker 1: this notion. I'm obviously not doing one of two things 133 00:06:58,497 --> 00:07:00,577 Speaker 1: in the book. I don't deny their other forms of 134 00:07:00,657 --> 00:07:03,177 Speaker 1: racism against other groups in America. I just think that 135 00:07:03,297 --> 00:07:06,457 Speaker 1: anti white racism is the most salient, And obviously I'm 136 00:07:06,497 --> 00:07:10,857 Speaker 1: not denying other types of racism in America. Is history, okay, 137 00:07:10,937 --> 00:07:14,057 Speaker 1: But I think there's a couple things, and I think 138 00:07:14,097 --> 00:07:15,937 Speaker 1: that the kind of core of it is you get 139 00:07:15,937 --> 00:07:18,697 Speaker 1: to folks like Thomas soul and Thomas Soule, who was 140 00:07:18,777 --> 00:07:21,177 Speaker 1: a real touchdown for this book, kind of says that 141 00:07:21,217 --> 00:07:25,977 Speaker 1: the quest for cosmic justice invariably leads to more injustice, 142 00:07:26,337 --> 00:07:28,697 Speaker 1: and I think that's where you sort of wind up. 143 00:07:28,937 --> 00:07:31,217 Speaker 1: And to the extent that we still want to have 144 00:07:31,657 --> 00:07:34,537 Speaker 1: a thumb on the scale for people who are from 145 00:07:34,577 --> 00:07:38,297 Speaker 1: lower socioeconomic status or what have you, like, that's fine, 146 00:07:38,297 --> 00:07:40,457 Speaker 1: that's a discussion we can have, but it shouldn't be 147 00:07:40,537 --> 00:07:44,137 Speaker 1: based simply on the color of one's skin. Furthermore, there's 148 00:07:44,137 --> 00:07:46,977 Speaker 1: a lot of informal discrimination going on, and I document 149 00:07:47,017 --> 00:07:49,057 Speaker 1: this a lot in my Hollywood chapter of the book, 150 00:07:49,297 --> 00:07:51,577 Speaker 1: where you look and you see all the sorts of 151 00:07:51,577 --> 00:07:55,577 Speaker 1: ways in which white people are denigrated in the current 152 00:07:55,617 --> 00:07:58,097 Speaker 1: popular culture, and it's so much part of that that 153 00:07:58,137 --> 00:08:00,897 Speaker 1: we don't even realize it's going on. It's just the 154 00:08:01,017 --> 00:08:04,257 Speaker 1: environment that we swim in. And then it's like kind 155 00:08:04,257 --> 00:08:06,657 Speaker 1: of trying to describe an ocean to the fish to 156 00:08:06,737 --> 00:08:09,577 Speaker 1: a fish. 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You're not a recruited athlete, you know, 194 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:06,057 Speaker 2: so what like, life's not that bad, you know, there's 195 00:10:06,097 --> 00:10:08,457 Speaker 2: a lot of sort of minimizing of how this is 196 00:10:08,457 --> 00:10:11,817 Speaker 2: a problem. So why is this a big problem? 197 00:10:12,097 --> 00:10:13,777 Speaker 1: Right? Well, I'd like to say, first of all, I mean, 198 00:10:13,817 --> 00:10:15,857 Speaker 1: I'm not looking to kind of play in the victimhood 199 00:10:15,897 --> 00:10:18,617 Speaker 1: Olympics here, right, this is really as much it's not 200 00:10:18,737 --> 00:10:21,297 Speaker 1: about complaining to the refs here as much as it 201 00:10:21,337 --> 00:10:24,937 Speaker 1: is rallying the troops and telling white people and non 202 00:10:24,977 --> 00:10:28,057 Speaker 1: white allies you're interested in having a fair system that 203 00:10:28,057 --> 00:10:30,857 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be putting up with this in America. So 204 00:10:31,017 --> 00:10:32,697 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the first thing. But where 205 00:10:32,977 --> 00:10:35,217 Speaker 1: do we see it? I'd say, I mean, it's in 206 00:10:35,257 --> 00:10:36,897 Speaker 1: all the areas, but just to pick three that I 207 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:39,697 Speaker 1: talk about, you're seeing it in the military, where you're 208 00:10:39,737 --> 00:10:44,377 Speaker 1: seeing such an extreme kind of discrimination against white soldiers 209 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:47,297 Speaker 1: who have disproportionately been the so called tip of the 210 00:10:47,337 --> 00:10:49,977 Speaker 1: spear in combat, so the most likely to be in 211 00:10:50,017 --> 00:10:53,257 Speaker 1: special forces and etc. In real combat roles that you've 212 00:10:53,257 --> 00:10:55,057 Speaker 1: seen just in the last five years, I think a 213 00:10:55,097 --> 00:10:58,897 Speaker 1: forty percent drop in white recruits to the military because 214 00:10:59,137 --> 00:11:02,457 Speaker 1: many of these are second generation military, their parents are saying, 215 00:11:02,937 --> 00:11:05,457 Speaker 1: don't go in again. I document lots of kind of 216 00:11:05,537 --> 00:11:09,937 Speaker 1: incidences of anti white discrimination in the book. There's plenty 217 00:11:09,977 --> 00:11:12,377 Speaker 1: of other stuff I've gotten from talking to generals and 218 00:11:12,377 --> 00:11:15,297 Speaker 1: admirals that I can just tell you anecdotally that I 219 00:11:15,337 --> 00:11:18,257 Speaker 1: didn't put in there for reasons of confidentiality. So you've 220 00:11:18,257 --> 00:11:20,817 Speaker 1: got that, You've got the way that we talk about 221 00:11:20,857 --> 00:11:23,537 Speaker 1: crime and everything that happened in the summer of Floyd 222 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:27,577 Speaker 1: kind of being based on this myth of kind of 223 00:11:27,857 --> 00:11:31,937 Speaker 1: you know, evil white police officers slaughtering unarmed African Americans 224 00:11:31,977 --> 00:11:34,897 Speaker 1: by the thousands. And of course, if you're familiar with 225 00:11:34,937 --> 00:11:38,417 Speaker 1: the actual interracial crime statistics or the number of African 226 00:11:38,417 --> 00:11:41,097 Speaker 1: Americans actually who are unarmed who are shot by and 227 00:11:41,177 --> 00:11:43,857 Speaker 1: killed by police officers each year, which is less than ten. 228 00:11:43,897 --> 00:11:46,497 Speaker 1: I mean, this is these kind kind of things are 229 00:11:46,497 --> 00:11:49,577 Speaker 1: frankly blood libles that are going. And then finally, maybe 230 00:11:49,817 --> 00:11:51,857 Speaker 1: you look at history. The other kind of really key 231 00:11:51,897 --> 00:11:55,057 Speaker 1: issue I think is these these statues. So you're seeing 232 00:11:55,137 --> 00:11:58,177 Speaker 1: first you have Confederate statues kind of coming down, and 233 00:11:58,217 --> 00:12:00,897 Speaker 1: maybe people didn't have a problem with that, but some 234 00:12:01,217 --> 00:12:03,577 Speaker 1: if they're not Southerner, you don't like the Confederates. But 235 00:12:03,617 --> 00:12:06,537 Speaker 1: now we're seeing statues of Abraham Lincoln come down. We're 236 00:12:06,537 --> 00:12:10,017 Speaker 1: seeing statues of George Washington come down, We're seeing statues 237 00:12:10,297 --> 00:12:13,377 Speaker 1: of Christopher Columbus going down. We're seeing a real erasure 238 00:12:14,057 --> 00:12:17,057 Speaker 1: of the fundamental history of this country. 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I mean I think the good news is this 266 00:13:41,537 --> 00:13:44,097 Speaker 1: is not an unsolvable problem. That isn't to say that 267 00:13:44,097 --> 00:13:46,097 Speaker 1: it's not a difficult problem, but we've solved a lot 268 00:13:46,137 --> 00:13:49,137 Speaker 1: of difficult problems in America's history. I think there's a 269 00:13:49,137 --> 00:13:51,417 Speaker 1: few different things that we can do. One is, I 270 00:13:51,417 --> 00:13:54,257 Speaker 1: think we've got to totally relook at our civil rights 271 00:13:54,377 --> 00:13:57,457 Speaker 1: laws and kind of really look to reconstitute them to 272 00:13:57,537 --> 00:14:00,857 Speaker 1: match current realities. I mean, essentially, these are all based 273 00:14:00,897 --> 00:14:03,817 Speaker 1: off the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, which was 274 00:14:03,897 --> 00:14:06,297 Speaker 1: responding to some very real problems that we had in 275 00:14:06,337 --> 00:14:09,217 Speaker 1: the US at the time. But we're now sixty years 276 00:14:09,217 --> 00:14:11,417 Speaker 1: past that, we have a whole set of different problems. 277 00:14:11,817 --> 00:14:14,257 Speaker 1: We're not worrying about people not getting served at lunch catters. 278 00:14:14,297 --> 00:14:18,577 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing instead blatant employment discrimination and other types 279 00:14:18,577 --> 00:14:21,857 Speaker 1: of discrimination to address. So I think more broadly, even 280 00:14:21,897 --> 00:14:23,817 Speaker 1: within our current laws, we need to have much more 281 00:14:23,857 --> 00:14:26,857 Speaker 1: aggressive law fare. So there's a bunch of things that 282 00:14:26,857 --> 00:14:30,977 Speaker 1: are being done that are blatantly discriminatory against whites that 283 00:14:31,057 --> 00:14:33,137 Speaker 1: are actually illegal, and they've sort of been like twenty 284 00:14:33,217 --> 00:14:35,777 Speaker 1: dollars bills lying in the middle of the road. Nobody's 285 00:14:35,817 --> 00:14:38,097 Speaker 1: picked them up for a variety of reasons. And now 286 00:14:38,137 --> 00:14:41,857 Speaker 1: you begin to have groups like America First Legal, Steven 287 00:14:41,857 --> 00:14:44,937 Speaker 1: Miller's group out in DC that are really beginning to 288 00:14:45,057 --> 00:14:48,897 Speaker 1: sue companies that are engaged in blatant and di white 289 00:14:48,897 --> 00:14:52,137 Speaker 1: discrimination or whether it's universities, and we're beginning to get 290 00:14:52,177 --> 00:14:54,497 Speaker 1: some wins. And I think if we just ramp that 291 00:14:54,577 --> 00:14:58,297 Speaker 1: up one hundred x, that will help finally to kind 292 00:14:58,297 --> 00:15:03,377 Speaker 1: of reconstitute America's borders and the ideas around that. So 293 00:15:04,457 --> 00:15:09,377 Speaker 1: you've got to have a kind of mass deportation for 294 00:15:09,577 --> 00:15:12,017 Speaker 1: illegally aliens in this country, and then you've got to 295 00:15:12,017 --> 00:15:14,457 Speaker 1: strengthen the borders in the way that Trump is talking 296 00:15:14,497 --> 00:15:17,337 Speaker 1: about doing. And if you do that then you could 297 00:15:17,377 --> 00:15:21,497 Speaker 1: imagine reconstituting a new American identity around the folks that 298 00:15:21,537 --> 00:15:24,577 Speaker 1: we have here given a little breathing room. But as 299 00:15:24,577 --> 00:15:27,377 Speaker 1: long as the border is wide open, it's really hard 300 00:15:27,417 --> 00:15:28,497 Speaker 1: to solve this problem. 301 00:15:28,937 --> 00:15:33,417 Speaker 2: What do you think our border policy should be immigration 302 00:15:34,297 --> 00:15:35,177 Speaker 2: more broadly. 303 00:15:35,977 --> 00:15:38,297 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, I think we just need to 304 00:15:38,417 --> 00:15:42,577 Speaker 1: dramatically reduce both there's illegal and legal immigration. There's a 305 00:15:42,697 --> 00:15:46,617 Speaker 1: kind of easy out that a lot of the establishment 306 00:15:46,697 --> 00:15:50,857 Speaker 1: Republicans will say, where it's illegal good or bad legal good. 307 00:15:51,337 --> 00:15:53,217 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that simple. I mean, obviously we 308 00:15:53,257 --> 00:15:57,177 Speaker 1: should be sending back every illegal immigrant, but I think 309 00:15:57,897 --> 00:16:00,537 Speaker 1: legal immigration at the scale that we're having it also 310 00:16:01,137 --> 00:16:04,377 Speaker 1: has a lot of challenges for America's national identity, and 311 00:16:04,457 --> 00:16:06,097 Speaker 1: even to the extent that we have it, we're not 312 00:16:06,177 --> 00:16:10,177 Speaker 1: always bringing in the best folks that we'd like from 313 00:16:10,217 --> 00:16:12,297 Speaker 1: every country, which, at the end of the day, I 314 00:16:12,297 --> 00:16:14,097 Speaker 1: think the kind of best way to think about it 315 00:16:14,137 --> 00:16:18,777 Speaker 1: is America's immigration policy serves the interest of the American people. 316 00:16:18,857 --> 00:16:21,977 Speaker 1: It's just interest, that's it. We're not a charity ward. 317 00:16:22,177 --> 00:16:25,817 Speaker 1: We are a nation, and we should proceed on that 318 00:16:25,937 --> 00:16:29,097 Speaker 1: basis according to our interests, and that should be the 319 00:16:29,137 --> 00:16:31,897 Speaker 1: thing that guides our immigration policy fundamentally. 320 00:16:32,337 --> 00:16:35,457 Speaker 2: The book is The Unprotected Class, how anti white racism 321 00:16:35,497 --> 00:16:39,657 Speaker 2: is tearing America apart. Jeremy Carl is the author. Jeremy, 322 00:16:39,657 --> 00:16:41,297 Speaker 2: before I let you go, it's going to tell everybody, 323 00:16:41,457 --> 00:16:44,257 Speaker 2: hopefully you'll check it out to my friend Crocket Coffee. 324 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:46,777 Speaker 2: Got to make sure I show everybody their Crocket Coffee. 325 00:16:46,817 --> 00:16:51,177 Speaker 2: It's delicious Crocketcoffee dot Com. 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