1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: station for the Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: by searching appspr boom Up America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome in Hope. You had a spectacular, spectacular weekend. 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: All the boys are here. The great Dan Byer you 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: heard him on radio yesterday. I want to talk about 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: what he saw from his Hawks Seahawks Jay Still who 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: liked me a Charger fan, So hey, we're want to 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: know and in a division play and off for the 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: rest of the weekend and getting all healed up. That 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: stuff was great. And then of course you got your 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: boy here who Now I get two teams and both 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: teams want to know, and so is my fantasy team. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: That's all want to know as well. So we're all 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: we're all good. We'll get to the Bills come back 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: against the Ravens in a second. We'll get to the 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Lions getting dismembered and dismantled by the Packers in a second, Okay, 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: but I do need to pat myself on the back. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: Chase two and Dan Byer. We've been together long enough 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: that you remember a couple of years ago, there was 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: this Herbert versus Tua thing, right, Herbert versus Tua. Now 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: it was mainly mainly Emmanuel Acho and others calling out 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: justin Herbert as what was it? A social media quarterback, 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: a social media sensation. And the idea wasn't that he 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: was on social media, is that social media likes him 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: more than the reality of who he is quarterback. And 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the thing was, hey, Tua Tua is really. 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: The better quarterback. 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: And not only did I believe that was laughable at 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: the time, they actually played against each other on Monday 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Night football. I went to that game with my son 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: and I came back and I think also as steven 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: A called out Herbert as well at the time, and 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: I went to that game and Tyreek Hill made two 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: unbelievable plays in the first half. Otherwise it's non competitive. 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Was mostly a non competitive game. And the takeaway, very 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: very simply was, if you think those two players are 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: anywhere in the same solar system, you haven't actually watched football. 42 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: You haven't actually watched football, So knowing that, understanding that 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: if you've now watched week one, and I don't want 44 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: most opinions have to be willing to evolve or change. 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Because if there's one thing we've learned about early season NFL, 46 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: it's whatever you saw this weekend, very very Normally, half 47 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: the teams will look completely different week two, sometimes for 48 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: the better, sometimes. 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: For the worse. 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: But we do have I believe enough data to tell 51 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: you that I think McDaniel's going to get fired this year. 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: He was my wasn't he my first pick? Jay Stu 53 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: on our hot seat list last week? By the way, 54 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: congratulations to Jason Stewart. He gave you the Ja Stue 55 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: team parlay. They both hit over the weekend. So on 56 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Fridays listen to Jay Stu both of his hit this weekend. 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Wasn't Mike McDaniel my pick? I believe that was my pick? 58 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: Bier would know Byer does the games remember this? 59 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: Well? 60 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 61 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: I mean he had the shortest odds. I know you 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: want to take the victory lapdug, but it was two 63 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: to one that McDaniel was the first coach to be fired. 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: Is there anybody in this room that would now take 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Tua over justin Herbert, I don't. 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Think that that's been that way in a while. 67 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, but now it's like there's just 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: no way, and there's like they picked the wrong horse, 69 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: that's it. And they they've tried to put him in 70 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: the perfect situation, and that perfect situation continues to be 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: less perfect because you can only provide so much space 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: and timing for a guy for a period of time 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: for everybody kind of figures it out. I'm not saying 74 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: to a stinks, but I think he it's gonna be 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: a tough year for him as they're trying to figure 76 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: out how to get the ball to Tyreek Hill in 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: space and others have figured out how to take that away. 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: Hill is frustrated, and Tua doesn't look like he has 79 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: the ability to elevate a team if he can't do 80 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: it on time and on target, can't do it on 81 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: his own, Herbert does. Okay, let's get to last night's 82 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: Comeback Buyer. What time do you click off for the 83 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: radio on a Sunday. It's five o'clock local, so eight eastern, okay, 84 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: So then you drive home. There's no real traffic driving home. 85 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: Usually get home and do you settle in and watch 86 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: the game right away? You connect with Berdie and Lisa 87 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: right away, Like, what's your pattern on a Sunday? 88 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: I get home, I brought food home, and then I 89 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: brought the game up on my phone because Brody was 90 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: watching something on TV right Okay. 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Was there ever a point where you're like, Okay, I'm good. 92 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Now I got to get ready for tomorrow, I got 93 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: to go to bed, or did you watch the entire thing? No? 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: I watch the entire thing. It's one of the advantages 95 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: you have on being the West Coast because you don't 96 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: have to, you know, game into like eight thirty ish 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: or something. 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: So I was on the West Coast, Okay. I was 99 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: out at a bar and restaurant and literally five minutes 100 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: to go, they were down what fifteen points? I was 101 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: like forty to twenty five, and there was a group 102 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: that I was kind of watching over their shoulder on 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: Beautiful TV, and everybody collectively when the Ravens scored the 104 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: touchdown to give him forty was like, that's it. That's 105 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: all not even pay attention to anymore. That's literally what happened. 106 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: And then I get back last night and I look 107 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: at my phone and you guys are on the group text, 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I don't even know what happened. 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: So that to go back and watch. There's a long day, 110 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: a long weekend of watching a ton of football. Here 111 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: here's Josh Allen. He had a message to fans that 112 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: left the stadium early. 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: Our team didn't quit. 114 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's people that left the stadium 115 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 5: that's okay, We'll be fine, but have some fight next time. 116 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: Here's Josh Allen on how they came back and won. 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: They took everybody there. I'm just proud of our team 118 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: for staying in it. No one on the sideline blinked. 119 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 5: I mean, down fifteen points whenever we were with five 120 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: six minutes left, staying with it. Fans leaving, you know, 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: the stadium. You know, you gotta play this game for 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: sixty minutes. And that's that's a really good outfit that 123 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: we just played. And you know, God willing we take 124 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: care of business how we're supposed to and how we 125 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 5: think we will. You know, it's probably a team we'll 126 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 5: see again. So you know they're they're a greatly coached team. 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 5: Hats off to them for having a really good game plan. 128 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: But you know, gotta were stuck in there, and I'm 129 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: just proud of our guys. 130 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. It's a 131 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: little counterintuitive that a team that can run the football 132 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry, can run the football with Lamar Jackson, 133 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: can give up that level of lead, right, because the 134 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: old adage you have a lead, well, that's a running team. 135 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: They know what they're doing and they just run it 136 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: down your throat and they have two incredible options. 137 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Right. 138 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Arguably, or maybe inarguably, the greatest running quarterback of all 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: time in Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry has been, if 140 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: not the best running back in the league. In any 141 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: conversation of the best running back in the league, what 142 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: five last five to seven years? Okay, so you have 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: those two, a good offensive line, the other team's got 144 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: to be tired. Defense been on the field of bunch. 145 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Games should be over. I didn't know this until after 146 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: the comeback and win that John Harball his teams had 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: suffered more comebacks than any other coach in the NFL. 148 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Here's Harball on what happened. 149 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 6: Very disappointing. We're just gonna have to regroup and get 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 6: ready to go play a long season. We've got sixteen 151 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 6: games in front of us, good football team, tough environment. Obviously, 152 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 6: we did many good things, but we didn't play well 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 6: at the end. Two big situations. The fourth down play, 154 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of a play that you don't 155 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 6: really expect to happen. I mean, it was pretty pretty 156 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 6: lucky play, but they made it between the scrambles. Josh 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 6: Allen played a great game obviously, especially at the end 158 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter to make those plays. Scramble plays, 159 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 6: extended extended completions, and then a couple big pass plays. 160 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: So that's it. We're disappointed, but we'll be fine. 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's there's a couple different 162 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: parts to it. Remember after getting up forty to twenty five, 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: when I clicked it off, it was because the Bill's 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: punted on the next possession. It's five plays and they punted, okay, 165 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: But then it was the Ravens who ran the ball, 166 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, twice in a row, then had a penalty okay, 167 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: then threw the ball and then had had the punt 168 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: it again. But what leads to every comeback in baseball, 169 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: every comeback in baseball feels the same leadoff walk right. 170 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: Every comeback in basketball, okay, feels like feels the same, 171 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: like a couple of threes and a couple of turnovers, 172 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: a couple of empty possessions and some momentum players. In football, 173 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: a turnover, especially a fumble, is almost always what leads 174 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: to these comebacks. And of all guys, it's a Derrick Henry, 175 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: a running back who he's a big, old strong dude. 176 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: The last thing you'd expect him to fumble, and he did. 177 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Here's Derrick Henry on the fumble. 178 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 7: Well, first of. 179 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 8: All, I mean I gotta take care of the ball 180 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 8: till my teammates at the game put the boss on me. 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 8: I own it like a man. You know, we have 182 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 8: decided taking care of the ball since we since we 183 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 8: got bashed. It's a big gamness, especially in all them 184 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 8: running back taking care of football, keep it high and 185 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 8: tighten like a like a days ago. And they made 186 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 8: a play. But you know, I put his boss on me. 187 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 8: I take care of the ball by it to be 188 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 8: a different. 189 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Situation for me. 190 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 8: But as far as the offense, we've just got to 191 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 8: ask you and. 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: We didn't do as well. 193 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 8: You know, at the end. So we just got to 194 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 8: look at the field and correctly. 195 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: Now, now, look there's a miracle fourth down catch, right, 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: that also happens. I mean, think of think of Brady 197 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl down twenty eight to three, right, 198 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: what leads to it? Turnovers and oh yeah, by the way, 199 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman catching catching a football in a once in 200 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: a lifetime catch. So there's how you come back. Who 201 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: the players are that changes what's almost always the turnover miracle, 202 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: like one incredible momentum shifting miracle play, and and then 203 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: the offense becomes you know, goes into a shell and 204 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: becomes the turtle. Because yes there was a fumble, yes 205 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: that changed everything in the game, but the Ravens had 206 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: two other possessions where three and out and three and 207 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: out in the fourth quarter. You gotta keep playing right, 208 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not being critical of Harbaugh. Look, first year 209 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: is a Division one head Ben's coach. You know, up 210 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: fourteen to Youngstown, up up fourteen late to Oakland, Like 211 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: we've suffered these four I know what happens. I've you 212 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: feel that, and the NFL it's almost always a turnover, 213 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: usually a fumble, a miracle play, and then your offense 214 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: just gets so conservative that the defense salivates, gets a stop, 215 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: and then you got a Josh Allen who's a special, 216 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: special player. The last part to it is, I understand 217 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has not gotten to a Super Bowl yet. 218 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: I understand that Josh Allen has at times try to 219 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: do things too much on his own. I do understand 220 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: also that if we're honest with ourselves, they were still 221 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: down forty to twenty five, right, Like, let's not lose 222 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: track of most of the game was dominated by the 223 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Ravens offense. But there's no additional level of clutchness in 224 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: your ability to come back. And you're like, well, he 225 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: hasn't done the playoffs. Yes he has. When they lost 226 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs a couple of years ago and they 227 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: had the thirteen second you know, comeback drive, kick the 228 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: field goal and win an overtime, he played a perfect 229 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: game under an immense amount of pressure as a player 230 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: last night. There's a immense amount of pressure on him 231 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: to deliver in the clutch, and he did. It doesn't 232 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: mean that he's the clutchest player in the NFL from 233 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: week one, and I do reserve the right to go Hey, 234 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: maybe the fact that the Ravens were up means the 235 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Ravens are that much better. They just went in the 236 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: turtle in the shell and that's why they lost. All 237 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: those things are possible, But I've never understood the mentality 238 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: of fans, the mentality of broadcasters to call out the 239 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: clutches of a player who's shown you that they can 240 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: in fact be clutched, they can in fact pull off miracles. 241 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's those miracles, those comebacks, those clutch performances. They 242 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: may not always come out in an AFC championship game 243 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: or an AFC playoff game. His actually has, but you can't. 244 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: I just struggle with the mentality that you can only 245 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: be clutching the playoffs, not clutching the regular season. Regular 246 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: season clutch doesn't count. Just some food for thought for you. 247 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 248 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 249 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 250 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 251 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: This is the only show that brings you guys that 252 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: actually truly know what they're talking about. Other shows do, 253 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: but we make sure we have the most reputable people, 254 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: especially in football. No one better than Tom te LESCo 255 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: eleven years GM with the Chargers San Diego in LA 256 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: and of course last year with the Las Vegas Raiders. 257 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: Kind of to spend some time with us every week 258 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: here on the show. Okay, first, let me just get 259 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to the actual performance in the game. We did get 260 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: the chance to see Flacco look good. Dylan Gabriel came in, 261 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Shador struggled. We saw Snoopuntley before he got before he 262 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: got released. What was your assessment of how the two 263 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks for the Browns play. 264 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 8: Well? 265 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 7: I agree with you, Dylan Gabriel looked good for the 266 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 7: second game in the row. He just he can move 267 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 7: the team. He makes quick decisions, he gets the ball 268 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 7: out of his hand quickly. He's got pretty good zip 269 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 7: for a for a smaller quarterback. He's got good arm strength, 270 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 7: which you don't see all the time with a smaller quarterback. 271 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 7: But he looked similar to what he looked in college, 272 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 7: and that was a positive. And Shrador, you know, didn't 273 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 7: have his best day. He played much better that the 274 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 7: two games before. You know, he struggled there and and 275 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 7: I can see I think part of this developmental process 276 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 7: with him, was not putting him out there for that 277 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 7: two minutes drill just because some of the body language 278 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 7: coming off the field after two tough series just wasn't 279 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 7: what you'd expect. You don't want your quarterback to just 280 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 7: walk off the field with his head down. There's there's 281 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 7: there's gonna adversity, you know, down to down series the series. 282 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 7: You have to handle that as a quarterback. So on 283 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 7: the outset looking in, I was wondering if this was 284 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 7: Kevin Stephanis saying, hey, look this this is a teaching 285 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 7: moment for you as far as how you handle the 286 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 7: lows on the field. And we're gonna let Snoop take 287 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 7: this last drive. But I think you can tell by 288 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 7: the way it lined up obviously it's fly Go was 289 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 7: the starter. Dylan Gabriel. He was drafted above Shador for 290 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 7: a reason. They must have had him ranked higher, and 291 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 7: he didn't show anything in the preseason that would lead 292 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 7: you to believe that he would drop in the Dutch charts. 293 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 7: You're looking at him as the two. I guess there's 294 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 7: a three. Can you take us the wild card? I 295 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 7: don't know how if it's in there right now, because 296 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 7: he just didn't play a lot in the preseason. 297 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Is either two? 298 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 7: Is either three? Is he someone they would move? That 299 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 7: remains to be seen before Tuesday. 300 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I state I am not 301 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: putting it out there. I'll tell you my own feelings 302 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: in a second. I have seen other people and now 303 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: there are more former players than anything saying Stefanski is 304 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: basically sabotaging shadoor right put him out there with lineman 305 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: he was going to cut and didn't let him be 306 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: the hero and play the two minutes droll, which every 307 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: quarterback dreams of. Uh, is there any scenario where that's 308 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: a possibility? 309 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 7: Maybe great for sports talk radio, but not in reality. No, 310 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 7: that's not absolutely not. I mean he's, first of all, 311 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 7: he's a very good head coach that has a good 312 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 7: track record on the offensive side of the ball. He 313 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 7: knows what he's looking at. He's also in a situation 314 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 7: where he has four quarterbacks he's trying to get a 315 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 7: really good look at and I know he don't need 316 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 7: as much a look at Joe Flacco, but you still 317 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 7: want to make sure you know where he is performance 318 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 7: level is. So he had a tough challenge going into 319 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 7: training camp they get four quarterbacks enough reps, not like 320 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 7: to show what they can do, but to help them develop. 321 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 7: So he knows what he's doing. And yeah, no, he's 322 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 7: not out there sabotaging anything. It's just you only get 323 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 7: so many series, and I do think he's just trying 324 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 7: to teach these guys. And he had a rough series, 325 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 7: had a rough couple of series there, he has some 326 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 7: great series. You know, in the first preseason game, you're 327 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 7: going to have up and down as a rookie quarterback. 328 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 7: That's just part of life, and part of life city 329 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 7: and professional football is learning how to deal with that 330 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 7: because when you're the quarterback, not only everybody, not the 331 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 7: fans and media looking at you, your teammates are looking 332 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 7: at you. So you know, just you don't want to 333 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 7: see your quarterback just walking off the field after a 334 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 7: series or walking off with his head down. That I 335 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 7: think it was more a teaching moment than anything else. 336 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: Does all of this noise surrounding should Doure does Does 337 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: this make it if the Browns thing doesn't work? Does 338 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: it make it less likely somebody else picks him up? 339 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 7: That's a good point, just because I want to say no, 340 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 7: But then you know, he was also drafted in the 341 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 7: fifth round. I think some of that was just due 342 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 7: to the noise people were worried about coming in. But 343 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 7: the bottom line is he has starter talent in the NFL. 344 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 7: Is he ready for prime time? Probably not ready quite yet, 345 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 7: but he has starter talent. He's got good enough arm strength, 346 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 7: He's got good feel in the pocket that I get 347 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 7: some time more on the inconsistent level, but he can 348 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 7: feel a rush, you can get the ball out of 349 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 7: his hands, and he's relatively accurate, So he has some 350 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 7: skills there. He's put a lot of staffs in college football, 351 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 7: but he has to adapt to the NFL game. It's 352 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 7: going to take some time. Certainly somebody would give an 353 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 7: opportunity somewhere else. How many teams would, I'm not sure, 354 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 7: just because what I said, like, he was dropped from 355 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 7: the fifth round, and really his talent level said he 356 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 7: should have gone higher. So they're probably some teams that 357 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: may be scurried off by that, But I think the 358 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 7: smarter teams see a potential, you know, potential starter down 359 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 7: the road. Maybe not right now, but down the road. 360 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 7: It is something you have to take a look at. 361 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: Is Anthony Richardson done in Indy. 362 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, he's had plenty of opportunities there. They 363 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 7: say he's not, and I do believe them. They've been 364 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 7: loyal to their players, they've been loyal to him and 365 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 7: given them opportunities. But he may be a situation that 366 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 7: other first round pick quarterbacks have fallen into, just like 367 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 7: Daniel Jones with the Giants. He may need a change 368 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 7: of scenery. That's never a bad thing, and that could 369 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 7: come up. And if you look how Daniel Jones handed 370 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 7: his process, the hand went really well. He was released 371 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 7: during the season from the Giants. It just didn't work out. 372 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 7: You know, a lot of options at that point, including me. 373 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 7: I was trying to sign on to come to the 374 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 7: active roster with the Raiders, so he'd give us another 375 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 7: option as a starting quarterback. And he decided to sign 376 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 7: on the practice squad with the Vikings to kind of rehabilitate, 377 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 7: learn a little bit from Kevin O'Connell, kind of get 378 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 7: his kind of settle his career down a little bit, 379 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 7: and then be a free agent at the end of 380 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 7: the year and pick where to go to go compete 381 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 7: for a job. He picked the right spot. Once the 382 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 7: Colts competed for a job and won the job, so 383 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 7: Richison could be in that same boat eventually. But I 384 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 7: do believe it when they say that he'll get another 385 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 7: opportunity there. He's got a lot of talent. His ceiling's 386 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 7: really high. It's just the consistency level. It's just really 387 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 7: low right now. And it's no different than what he 388 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 7: showed in college. There were high, very high high and 389 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 7: low lows, and you're seeing the same thing at this level. 390 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 7: And there are also injuries at the college level, so 391 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 7: you're seeing a lot of the same things. But I 392 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 7: think he'll get another opportunity there to show what he 393 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 7: can do, and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes 394 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 7: this year. With Daniel Jones, we don't know how he's 395 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 7: going to play. He's gonna be the Daniel Jones of 396 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 7: Fables first year or the last couple of years. He's 397 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 7: also had some injury, so there's a good chance at 398 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 7: some point Richardson plays again. 399 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the 400 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: voice of Tom to LESCo, of course, longtime show manager 401 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: of the La Chargers. Last year jail manager of the 402 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. H Terry McLaurin that deal finally gets done. 403 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Was there anything numbers wise that was so alarming that 404 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: it should have taken this log. 405 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 7: I guess we'll find out down the road. I mean 406 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 7: up to ninety six billion. It could mean a lot 407 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 7: of different things, so we'll see when the numbers come in. 408 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 7: My guess is when it's all said and done, he'll 409 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 7: be right in that top ten range. Not necessarily the 410 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 7: top five, but top ten, which I think is a 411 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 7: good spot. You'll get some nice deserved raise. Was it 412 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: worth to hold in? I don't know. I don't know 413 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 7: how the negotiations for it back and forth, but he's 414 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 7: get a pretty good raise and he's got two weeks 415 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 7: to get ready to play. That's the only thing I'm 416 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 7: concerned about as a receiver, and because he didn't have 417 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 7: a full off season program he was rehabbing an ankle 418 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 7: injury and then no training camp. Receivers obviously the high 419 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 7: volume running position, and you know how many stats will 420 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 7: he be able to play opening day? I mean, certainly 421 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 7: in conditioning shape, but it's just a difference between conditioning 422 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 7: shape and football shape. But really glad it got done. 423 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 7: This was the point where in the same thing with 424 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 7: the Hendrickson deal. They need to get done now to 425 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 7: get ready for opening day, but there's some deadlines coming 426 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 7: up to kind and they kind of spur that. But 427 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 7: I think the numbers are kind of come in where 428 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 7: we expected it, which be right around the top ten toms. 429 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: Let's go our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show 430 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. What do you do with Micah Parsons? Like, 431 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: it's one thing to ask to be traded and go 432 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: through all this sort of thing like laying down on 433 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: the massage table during a game, just generally acting like 434 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: an ass right, Like, what what do you do there? 435 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: If you're in charge of the Cowboys? Do you how 436 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: do you handle that? 437 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 7: This is this is real theater, you know, from the 438 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 7: outside looking in, This is totally different than the McLaurin 439 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 7: and Hendrickson holdouts. Yeah, the laying on the table not 440 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 7: the look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the 441 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 7: table for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not 442 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 7: the look you're looking for. First off, They're just you 443 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 7: have to have communication between yourself and the agent. And 444 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: I just think in this situation until the agent is 445 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 7: part of the process. I just don't see the deal 446 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 7: getting done. And I know every team does it different ways. 447 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 7: I know the Cowboys have done in different ways, but 448 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 7: in this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiation with 449 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: the agent, I just don't see anything getting done. Now. 450 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 7: The big thing is we move into that cut the 451 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 7: fifty three and get ready for opening Day. You know, 452 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 7: if you're holding out and you're not there and you 453 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 7: don't play in the game, obviously you wouldn't make your 454 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 7: your base salaries for that week. But if you're holding in, 455 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 7: you're on the active roster, and if you don't play 456 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 7: in the game, then the club would still owe you 457 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 7: and his you know, for him, it'd be over a 458 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 7: million dollars one point three million dollars for that game. 459 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 7: I see no way the Cowboys are going to pay 460 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 7: one point three million to not play in a game. 461 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 7: So something has to break here, whether it's to get 462 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 7: the deal done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing 463 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 7: to play, and then you can either you can find 464 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 7: the player, you can suspend them. Something's going to have 465 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 7: to happen because he's on the active roster, he's due 466 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 7: to be paid week one right now, even though he's 467 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 7: not going to play. So I'd be shocked in the 468 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 7: next seven days if there wasn't some movement one way 469 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 7: or another. But it has to start with communication on 470 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 7: both sides, and you know, more so on the Cowboys side. 471 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: It sounds like, well Stug Gottlib show here on Fox 472 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, how far away is Jackson dart. 473 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 8: Well. 474 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 7: I'm a big Jackson Dark fan. From the draft and 475 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 7: then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind. 476 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 7: So yeah, I think he could go in and play 477 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 7: right now at what level. He would take some lumps, 478 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 7: I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But 479 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 7: I think he could play right now. But it's also 480 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 7: not a bad thing that he sits and waits. I mean, 481 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 7: it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation. 482 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 7: I think Brian Daeble is definitely he's going to pick 483 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 7: the quarterback they can that he feels right now has 484 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 7: gives him the best chance to win opening day. He 485 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 7: feels like, right now it's Russell Wilson. But I think 486 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: if the time comes, whether it's September, October, November, December, 487 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 7: I think Jackson'll be ready to go. I'm ready to play. 488 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford starting to come like how do you handle that? 489 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Where you just you have no idea. I mean, I 490 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to 491 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, But how do you handle that in 492 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time? 493 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: Like obviously I'm not telling the contractually, but yeah, what what? 494 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: How do you how do you handle the Stafford thing? 495 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 7: If you're the Rams, Well, it's literally going to be 496 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 7: day by day and it sound like it's getting better 497 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 7: day by day. But as a lot of us know, 498 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: with back injuries and that, and if it has affects 499 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 7: your nerves, you know, sometimes the rehab process and the 500 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 7: strength it comes very slowly, and so they have to 501 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 7: kind of gradually start moving them in. But you have 502 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 7: to also have a plan B with with Garoppolo in 503 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 7: case Stafford is not ready to play. So probably in 504 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 7: practice with your ones, probably the backup quarterback Garppolo in 505 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 7: this case, you'll probably take more snaps than he usually 506 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 7: would to get him ready in case he has to play, 507 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 7: which is completely fine because Stafford probably you probably don't 508 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 7: want to have him take every snap right now in practice, 509 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 7: so they've got thirteen fourteen days ago before opening day, 510 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 7: still have some time. But essentially, if you're the coach, 511 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 7: you know you really have to get two quarterbacks ready 512 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 7: to play. Sin it's just, you know, back range back 513 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 7: injuries are unpredictable. I know he has missed very he 514 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 7: haven't missed very much time in his career, but he's 515 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 7: had back injuries in the past. And you know, the 516 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 7: older you get, it doesn't get better. So don't have 517 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 7: a plan for both. But in practice you're certainly going 518 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 7: to work. Both quarterbacks are good amount. 519 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: He's the one and only Tom Telesco. Of course, what 520 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: does he know. He's only been in professional football his 521 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: entire professional life and been a gentle manager for twelve 522 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: years in the Nation Football League. Last thing, Tommy, do 523 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: you like this system where it's basically like one big 524 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: cutdown or did you like the old system better? 525 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 7: So I like this better because he gives every player 526 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 7: a chance to compete for a job. The only hard 527 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 7: part about it was is administratively releasing thirty seven players 528 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 7: over a day or two. It's just it's just a 529 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 7: lot of work because you want to spend enough time 530 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 7: with each player on his way out, just as a courtesy, 531 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 7: just talk to him about what he did about career 532 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 7: options moving forward. That sort of things. You want to 533 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 7: make sure you take the right time the head coach 534 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 7: to position coaches. There's a lot of time involved. But 535 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 7: I like the one cut because because everybody get a 536 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 7: chance to show what they can do for the pre 537 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 7: certainly for the third preseason game, you have a really 538 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 7: good chance to play your young guys. If you're a 539 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 7: team that doesn't want to play their starters, it gives 540 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 7: you enough players to play the third preseason game and 541 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 7: give every player, especially college free agents, that when you 542 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 7: sign a master for the draft, part of the recruiting processes, 543 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 7: we're going to give you the whole offseason program. We're 544 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 7: gonna give you all training camp in three preseason games 545 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 7: to show us what you can do. And guys need that, 546 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 7: and so I like this. It's just administratively you over 547 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 7: a two day span. It's just a lot of players 548 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 7: to let go of. Now you know roughly half will 549 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 7: come back on practice squads. But no, it's it's a process. 550 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 7: It's not fun really from players obviously, but the process 551 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 7: itself of building that initial fifty three is a very 552 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 7: enjoyable process. 553 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: He's time to LESCo. He's built the original fifty three 554 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: as the Gentleman, as the gentlemnasguer for twelve twelve different years, 555 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: and just love having you, love soaking up that knowledge. Tom, 556 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. 557 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 7: We'll talk next week, all right, dog donk good? 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Go check out our brand new YouTube 567 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: channel again, just search Doug Gottlieb Show and subscribe to 568 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: get to damn buyer for a game. 569 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 570 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: Hello Doug. The game today is. 571 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 4: Big deal, Little deal, No deal. 572 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: A lot of Week one reaction here with a little 573 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: bit more sprinkled in. We start off big deal, little 574 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: deal or no deal that the New York Giants are 575 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: sticking with Russell Wilson in week two is their starting quarterback. 576 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: No deal. 577 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna get to Jackson Dart at some point, 578 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: but that that time is not. We just haven't gotten 579 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: that moment yet, right, haven't gotten to that moment yet. 580 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: So I and you heard from Tom Tolesco. He didn't 581 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: play great, but they didn't block form at all. And 582 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Washington's defense is a real thing. I'd say, no deal. 583 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: All right, big deal, little deal or no deal that 584 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: after a calf injury scare, the forty nine ers gave 585 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey thirty one touches in their win against the Seahawks. 586 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: I like, I'm with you with the scare. How many 587 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: times we heard calf injury and then it ends up 588 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: being something totally. 589 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And with Christian McCaffrey on top of that, guy 590 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: who's been injury prone throughout his at times throughout his career. 591 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: Yep, as soon as he left, as soon as he 592 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: signed the big deal in Carolina, he became injury prone. 593 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: It's crazy, yes, but uh, it was a big part 594 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: of their win yesterday, A big deal, little dealer, no 595 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: deal that Travis Hunter had six catches in his Jags 596 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: debut forty eight snaps in all in a win against Carolina. 597 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the big thing is the win, right, big 598 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: thing is the win. But look, it's it's a it's 599 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: a good starting point. I'm still wondering why they chose 600 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: offense instead of defense in terms of his main focus, 601 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: when somebody have told me that they thought he was 602 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: better as a cornerback than his wide receiver. 603 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: I think I think it's some of the marketing aspect 604 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: of it. 605 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: I think that's. 606 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Easier to market a wide receiver than it is a yeah. 607 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe it's easier to. 608 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: Adjest that way. 609 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't hate that thought. 610 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: I hate that thought because. 611 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean, to take a corner second overall, you know, 612 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: would be just solely for a corner, would be I 613 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: think I'm precedented. 614 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 615 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: I think I thought three was maybe the highest that 616 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: a corner was ever taken. But big deal, little dealer, 617 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: no deal that the Cincinnati Bengals gotta win. But Doug 618 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: got off to another slow start in Cleveland. Uh, Joe Burrow, I. 619 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Think it's a little deal, Okay, little deal. I mean, like, look, 620 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: big thing is, last year they lost so many close games, 621 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: especially early in the year. This one they came back 622 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: and won, and their defense helped them right, getting two 623 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: turnovers two interceptions of Joe Placo where the defense was 624 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: non existent last year. Cleveland's defense is good. By the way, 625 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: how nasty was that hit on Burrow? Everyone's at that 626 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: dets Wow, you want to play quarterback in the NFL? 627 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: No thanks fourteen of twenty three for one and thirteen yards. 628 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: It was for Burrow. 629 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: It was pedestrian had the ball. 630 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: For twenty four minutes in that game. Big deal, little dealer, 631 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: no deal that. Pete Carroll and the Raiders opened the 632 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: season with the road win in England. 633 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: Big East coach New England. There was some big expectations 634 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: of New England and Pete Carroll went in there and 635 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: beat one of his former teams and look good doing it. 636 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: I think that was a big win. 637 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: I think it's honestly like for two teams that are 638 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: looking to do much better than they did a year 639 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: before to have to go on the road win that game. Yep, 640 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: it's an East Coast game. I know Vegas isn't West coast, 641 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: but western part of the country, eastern coast. 642 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: One o'clock Eastern times. Start. Yeah, not easy, No, I 643 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: thought it was. I actually thought it was a really 644 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: good win. 645 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 3: And I thought Drake may looked good in the first 646 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: half and then in the second half maybe wasn't. So 647 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of growth there. But Gino Smith 648 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: an another magnificent performance three hundred and sixty two yards 649 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: and a touchdown in that Raiders victory over the Patriots. 650 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: I thought, I thought that was a big deal because 651 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: that's one of those coin flip games that we had 652 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: this weekend that ended up going the way of the 653 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: silver embody. 654 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 655 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: One more, yeah, one more, big deal. 656 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: That Georgia dropped two spots in the EIGHTP pole after 657 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: beating Austin p twenty eight to six. 658 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: This prifty the ap pole is p P so. 659 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: No deal, no deal. All right, that's game time. 660 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 4: Game, This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 661 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: What did you love from the weekend? What did you 662 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: hate from the weekend? We'll share our love all right. 663 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: Next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio