1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm John Tucker. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 3: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: today and. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Karen, futures are dropping on heels. A warning from in Vidia, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: the chip giant says it's going to have to report 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: about five and a half billion dollars in write downs 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: during the current quarter. That's because the Trump administration has 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: barred in video from selling its H twenty chip in China. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg's Mike Shepherd says the government is concerned the 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: chip could be used in or diverted to a supercomputer 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: in China. 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 4: And that is one of the concerns that the US 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: government has, is that, in fact, by using a different 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: package or stack of these Age twenty chips. And remember 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: the H twenty chip has already been modified and scaled 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: down for the China market, and that's owing to restrictions 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 4: going back to twenty twenty two. And Nvidia has been 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: on the cross heres since the Biden administration for the 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: advanced chips produces and sells and have been selling into 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 4: the China market, and they have been looking to make 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: sure that China doesn't get its hands on the best. 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: Stuff, Bloomberg's Mike Shepherd in Washington. Shares of Nvidia right 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: now down more than five percent in early trading. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: Well John also adding it to weakness to chip stocks. 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: This morning, a disappointing report from Dutch ship equipment maker 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: ASML Holding. The company reported orders for the first quarter 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: that were more than one point one billion dollars less 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: than expected. ASML is also warning that it doesn't know 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: how to quantify the impact from recent tariff announcements, which 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: are threatening to upend the semiconductor industry, and shares of 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: ASML are down more than five percent in Europe. 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: And Karen Tesla reportedly suspending plans to ship components from 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: China with cybercab and semi electric trucks in the US. 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: Reuter says Elon Musk was prepared to absorb the additional 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: costs when President Trump imposed the thirty four percent tariff 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: on Chinese goods, but could not do so when the 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: terraf went beyond that. Shares of Tesla them more than 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: three percent at early trading. 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: Now, John, let's get the latest on the escalating trade 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: war between the US and China. Bloomberg News has learned 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: China wants to see a number of steps from President 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Trump's administration before agreeing to trade talks, that include showing 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: more respect by reigning in disparaging remarks by members of 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: his cabinet. Meanwhile, President Trump is calling on China to 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: reach out for trade negotiations. And here's White House Press 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: Secretary Caroline Lovitt. 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 5: The ball is in China's court. China needs to make 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 5: a deal with us. We don't have to make a 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 5: deal with them. There's no difference between China and any 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: other country, except they are much larger. And China wants 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 5: what we have. What every country wants what we have 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 5: the American consumer, or to put in another way, they 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: need our money. 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, speaking yesterday, sources now 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: Bloomberg that Beijing also wants the US to appoint a 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: point person for talks who has the President's support and 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: can help prepare a deal that Trump and Chinese leader 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: Shieshin Pin can sign when they meet. 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: And we have fresh economic data out of China. The 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: economy there grew via faster than expected five to four 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: zero point four percent in the first three months of 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: the year. The surprising strength in the world's second largest 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: economy comes as concerns mount over the potential impact of 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five percent US tariffs on Chinese goods. 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: Well, John is investors await the latest tariff developments. They 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: will have a key speech by j Powell to digest, 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: and we get a preview with the Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 69 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 6: Corporate leaders, economists, investors, and FED officials all have the 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 6: same problem. Nobody knows what Donald Trump is actually going 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 6: to do on tariffs. FED Governor Chris Waller said Monday, 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: it's impossible now to forecast how the economy will develop, 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 6: which makes FED Chairman Jay Powell's job much harder. Today, 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 6: in his Chicago speech, the chair will attempt to reassure 75 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 6: jiterary markets that no matter what happens, the Central Bank 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 6: will be on the job, able to raise rates if 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 6: Trump's new taxes increase inflation, or cut rates if they 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 6: lead the economy just slow significantly. He said all that before. 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: Of course, it's not clear what he could add to 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 6: that message today. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio. 81 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: All right, Michael, thank you, Well, Bloomberg will bring you 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: Jay Powell's full remarks from the Economic Club of Chicago. 83 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: Coverage begins at one thirty Wall Street time on Bloomberg Radio, 84 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Television, and the Bloomberg Podcast page on YouTube. 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: And looking over in Europe now, UK inflation slipped for 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: a second straight month. A consumer prices rose just two 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: point six percent of the twelve months to March. This 88 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: was driven by cheaper computer games, falling fuel prices, and 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: unchanged food costs. 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: Well back here in the US, John it appears the 91 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: move to increase taxes for the ultra wealthy as gaining 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: traction among lawmakers, including Republicans, and Bloomberg's Amy Morris has 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: more from Washington. 94 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 7: Republicans in the White House, the Senate and the House 95 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 7: are considering a new tax bracket for the wealthiest Americans, 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 7: with the House proposal setting a forty percent rate for 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 7: those earning one million dollars or more per year. These 98 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 7: talks are part of the effort to pay for a 99 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 7: sweeping tax bill by the end of this year, with 100 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 7: options including offsetting the cost of an expanded state and 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 7: local tax deduction with a millionaire's bracket. A White House 102 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 7: official tells Bloomberg President Trump is open to the idea 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 7: of a new top tax bracket, but for an income 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 7: greater than a million dollars. In Washington, Amy Moore as 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 7: Bloomberg Radio Right. 106 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: Thanks Amy. The government's anti trust trial seeking to break 107 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: up Meta Platforms that continues today. In testimony yesterday was 108 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: revealed seven years ago, Mark Zuckerberg considered spinning off Instagram 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: from Facebook, fearing the company might be broken up in 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: the next five to ten years. With the Federal Trade 111 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: Commission is now suing Meta to break it up. Alludging 112 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: its acquisitions of Instagram at WhatsApp created a social media monopoly, 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: while Meta argues it faces many competitors. 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: And John the White House is starting a new media 115 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: policy that restricts wire services access to the president. That 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: move blocks a traditional press pools that served billions of readers. 117 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: It comes after a judge ruled the White House and 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: violated the Associated Press's free speech by banning it because 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: it disagreed with the outlet's decision not to rename the 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: Gulf of Mexico. The White House says it will ultimately 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: give Press Secretary Caroline Lovett the final say over who 122 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: gets to question her boss. Time now for a look 123 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: at some of the other stories making news in New 124 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: York and around the world. And for that we're joined 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, Good Morning. 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 8: Good Morning Karen. A federal judge says she will order 127 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 8: sworn testimony by Trump administration officials to determine if they 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 8: complied with their orders to facilitate the return of Kilmar 129 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 8: Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man was mistakenly deported to a 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 8: notorious L. Salvador prison last month. The US Supreme Court 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 8: ordered the Trump administration to return him, but the administration 132 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 8: has so far refused, claiming he's in the MS thirteen gang. 133 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 8: White House spokesperson Caroline Lovett, there. 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: Is never going to be a world in which this 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 5: is an individual who's going to live peaceful life in 136 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 5: Maryland because he is a foreign terrorist and MS thirteen 137 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: gang member. 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 8: Abrego Garcia's attorneys deny the gang allegations and say he 139 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 8: was never charged with a crime. Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Pasquez, sura, 140 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 8: as we continue. 141 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 9: Through Holy Week, my heart aches for my husband, Whosha 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 9: had been here leading our Easter prayers. Instead, I find 143 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 9: myself pleading with the Trump administration and the Buchel administration 144 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 9: to stop playing political games with the life of Kilmar. 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 8: Harvey Weinstein is back in the New York court as 146 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 8: jury's selection begins for his retrial on sexual assault charges. 147 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 8: The legal representative for one of his accusers spoke outside 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 8: court Tuesday, attorney Lindsay Goldbrum. 149 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: Over the next several weeks, these women will testify about 150 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: these heinous acts that have been committed against them, and 151 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: intimate details of their lives will come out. 152 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 8: New York's highest court over turned Weinstein's conviction in his 153 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 8: twenty twenty trial. Finally, we've lost a game show legend, 154 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 8: and now. 155 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 6: From Television City in Hollywood, here's your host, Don Gambit, 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 6: Wink Martin Dale. 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 10: Thank you very much. 158 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 8: Weak Martindale, host of such hit game shows as Gambit, 159 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 8: which debut in nineteen seventy two and Tiktak Dooe, has died. 160 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 8: Martin Dale began his career in radio. This publicist says 161 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 8: Martindale died after battling lampoma for a year. Wink Martindale 162 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 8: was ninety one Global News, twenty four hours a day 163 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 8: and whatever you wanted with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr, 164 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 8: this is Bloomberg. 165 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: Karen All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for 166 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Sports Update. Here's John Stashaur John, Good morning 167 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: morning here. 168 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 11: Max Freed was the Yankees big free agent signing so 169 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 11: far as good as advertised. He's three and I was 170 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 11: era is under two at the stadium, the Yanks field 171 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 11: to support him against Kansas City into wilda sixth inning 172 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 11: infield single, three straight walks and they had a run 173 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 11: in and three on for Jason Domingo. 174 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 10: So one to two, blind Dragons pas down the lu 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 10: field Live Chisham scores, ful, Py scores, they're a leaving 176 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 10: home wells who well scores. That's up faces clearing double 177 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 10: for Dominguez and the Yankees have taken a four two leads. 178 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, that was the final over the Royals. Yes Network 179 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 11: to call in Minnesota, Metsica that home runs from both 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 11: the Alonzo and Juan Soto. Alonzo's fifth of the season 181 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 11: came first inning. Soto now homers and back to back games, 182 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 11: but the Twins scored in five straight innings and they 183 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 11: won six to three. The Red Sox won seven to 184 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 11: four at Tampa Bay. Alex Bregman two home runs, five hits, 185 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 11: four RBIs Nationals behind Jake Irvin won three nothing at Pittsburgh. 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 11: The NBA postseason is underway pair of wins by home 187 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 11: teams or Orlando by twenty five over Atlanta, so the 188 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 11: Magic advance to play the Celtics. The Hawks now head 189 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 11: home to play Friday against the winner of tonight's Miami 190 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 11: Chicago game. The Warriors got to combine seventy five points 191 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 11: from Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry one twenty one to 192 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 11: one sixteen over Memphis. It'll be Golden State now against Houston. Dallas. 193 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 11: Tonight plays Sacramento the Winter Place Friday in Memphis. Devil's 194 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 11: won five to four in overtime at Boston. Devil's finished 195 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 11: third place of the division. They'll have a first round 196 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 11: playoff series with Carolina. The Islanders last home game of 197 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 11: three to one loss to the Capitals. The Giants at 198 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 11: the third pick of next week's draft. They are heading 199 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 11: to Boulder to watch a private workout by Colorado quarterback 200 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 11: Shadorah Sanders, Johns Stashankler, Bloomberg. 201 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 7: Sports Karen Jones. 202 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 203 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 204 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: And among our lead stories this morning, it involves the 206 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: tech sector, the Trump administration of posing new restrictions on 207 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: Nvidia chip exports to China. Let's get more on this 208 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: story this morning with Pretty Gupta, host of Bloomberg Radio TV, 209 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 2: but joining us from our London studios. Pretty good morning 210 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: to you, Thanks for being with us. In video shares 211 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: that should say, among the most actively traded this morning, 212 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: down about five point three percent now in Vidia and 213 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: even TSMC. We're pledging closer relationships with the Trump administration. 214 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 12: When happened, well, they're still kind of there. I mean, look, 215 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 12: this is coming twenty four hours after a big investment 216 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 12: that Nvidia had announced in the United States and specifically 217 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 12: in some of the southern states like Texas and Arizona, 218 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 12: to the tune of five hundred billion dollars. But John, 219 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 12: to your point, the sentiment has completely taken a different 220 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 12: tone now to reporting a five and a half billion 221 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 12: dollar hit because the US is clamping down when it 222 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 12: comes to the exports of some of Nvidia's chips, specifically 223 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 12: the Age twenty chip, which in Vidia, by the way, 224 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 12: has created as kind of a watered down version of 225 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 12: the traditional AI chip that is specifically catered to kind 226 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 12: of circumvent and address some of the concerns from the 227 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 12: US government, first under Biden, now under Trump, and still 228 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 12: being able to serve their Chinese clientele. But it looks 229 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 12: like even that is coming across some pretty severe restrictions 230 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 12: under the Trump administration. 231 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so this clamping down even predates the Trump administration, 232 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: Can we say it doesn't really have anything to do 233 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: with the trade war that's taking place. 234 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 12: It's definitely a piece of it, it feels like it. 235 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 12: But remember Jensen Wong has spent quite some time at 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 12: mar Lago before even even Donald Trump was elected, and 237 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 12: since then, right ahead of Nvidia this announcement to kind 238 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 12: of make sure like a lot of the tech CEOs 239 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 12: are there on the winning side of this. So so that 240 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 12: domestic investment is very much coming in that same vein. 241 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 12: Remember they're also choosing not to spend that five hundred 242 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 12: million dollars investment in Asia, so that very much is 243 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 12: a reaction function to the trade war. But this is 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 12: actually one that has been happening again under the Biden administration. 245 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: This eg. 246 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 12: Twenty chip that Nvidia has developed is the third iteration 247 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 12: of a chip to circumvent government restrictions. Like I said, 248 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 12: not just under the Trump administration, but this entire effort 249 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 12: started under the Biden administration and the chip that the 250 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 12: Chips Act and the restrictions there. 251 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: This news we got, this came in a regulatory filing. 252 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: It's not like it was an announcement from the Trump administration. 253 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 12: This isn't a yes, you're one hundred percent right. This 254 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 12: was a regulatory filing from Nvidia. This did not come 255 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 12: unto the Trump administration. But in Vidia going ahead and 256 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 12: talking about a five hundred five excuse me, five and 257 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 12: a half billion dollar hit to their bottom line, we 258 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 12: should just mention there are reports of other from other 259 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 12: media that are suggesting about seventeen to eighteen billion worth 260 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 12: of Age twenty chips that were already developed from and video. 261 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 12: So the key kind of phrase that you need to 262 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 12: keep an eye on in this filing is inventory, purchase 263 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 12: commitments and related reserves because a lot of these chips 264 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 12: have already been produced. So it's a question of if 265 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 12: they don't go to China, where did they go? Given 266 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 12: that they are kind of this water down version. 267 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: Okay, the H twenty water down version. Again, this is 268 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: this is a chip that specifically trains AI models. 269 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 12: It does it specifically has to do with inference. And 270 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 12: so the big concern from the Biden administration and the 271 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 12: Trump administration has been that so much of AI is 272 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,359 Speaker 12: being used not just in things like consumer electronics like iPhones, 273 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 12: like washing machines, but ultimately to things like military intelligence 274 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 12: and more sophisticated technology. Now, if the US is able 275 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 12: to export that critical piece or kind of help to 276 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 12: that military technology to the likes of China given the 277 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 12: geopolitical tensions, that's where their concern lies. So Nvidia's solution 278 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 12: to that was to create this chip that still helps 279 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 12: these kind of consumer electronics and helps cater to a 280 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 12: clientele in that safe space, but isn't as advanced to 281 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 12: the point that you can use them in military technology. 282 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 12: And that's the difference here between the AH twenty chip 283 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 12: relative to some of the other products Nvidia offers. 284 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: Remember, like before the trade war, one of the big 285 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: concerns for investors had been AI investments, whether these were 286 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: going to pay off in the long term, and the 287 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: capital expenditures with respect to that. That's sort of faded 288 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: to the background. Isn't that back with us as a 289 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: concern for technology? 290 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 12: It is a little bit of a conservative technology because remember, 291 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 12: not so long ago, we were also talking about this 292 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 12: big Deep Seek kind of crash that had happened when 293 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 12: it comes to the cost of innovation around AI as well. 294 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 12: And this is where Nvidia's kind of stuck between a 295 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 12: rock and a hard place because so much of that 296 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 12: technology and that sourcing and that physical manufacturing is happening 297 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 12: abroad because it's cheaper to happen abroad. On top of that, 298 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 12: China has already proven they're able to come up with 299 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 12: technology that is almost eye to eye to what's being 300 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 12: developed in Silicon Valley and do it at a fraction 301 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 12: of the cost. 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