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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. It is Ashley. Ben will be joining us

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Speaker 1: later in the podcast. Um, but I wanted to start

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Speaker 1: with an interview with one of this week's rejects, Blake,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be doing an interview with Blake, and

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Speaker 1: then Ben will join us for the Bachelor at recap

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Speaker 1: and headlines. We have so much of discuss, including the

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Speaker 1: fact that Ben, the other Ben Ben Smith was eliminated

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Speaker 1: and what I would say was a shock elimination. This

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Speaker 1: probably back to my American idle days. I did not

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Speaker 1: see this coming, but I can't say that I'm really

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Speaker 1: upset by it, to be quite honest. And I'll let

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Speaker 1: you know all about that when we get to the recap.

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Speaker 1: But first off, let's get Blake on the line. Hey Blake,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. We're so happy to

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Speaker 1: have you here. Thanks for having me. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm good now, I'm good now, I'm relaxed. I saw

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Speaker 1: it all, play it last night and now I can

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Speaker 1: kind of take a deep breath and so good at

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Speaker 1: all it? Were you worried about your exit at all,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, take a deep breath. Um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I think you know, that was really the first

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Speaker 1: time I was gonna spend a decent amount of time

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Speaker 1: with a lead. It came really late, right, So finally

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Speaker 1: sitting down and having with me conversations for a longer period.

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Speaker 1: You just never know what it's gonna look like or

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna look like. For the most part, people

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Speaker 1: had seen me do some pretty risque type things, and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, so this is a this is a different

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Speaker 1: type of episode and one that I've been looking for.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to happen earlier, just unfortunately did Speaking of risque,

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Speaker 1: what overcame you to think that you the penis during? Okay? Casey,

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Speaker 1: Like I knew this was coming, and that's okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: First off, I think I was just like, hey, what's

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Speaker 1: important to me? What's been missing in my life for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time? And you know since my

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Speaker 1: wait wait to eight and you know, since my ex girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: which was about two years ago, Like it has been

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Speaker 1: a long time since I've had sex and love, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, I wanted to be bold and talk

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Speaker 1: about things that, um, people are scared to talk about.

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Speaker 1: People are scared to talk about the topic of like sex,

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Speaker 1: and so, um, I want to tell her something that

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Speaker 1: you know, Um, listen, it's been two years. Something I've

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Speaker 1: really miss in my life is something meaningful, and sex

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Speaker 1: is important in relationship, and so I basically just tried

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Speaker 1: to describe the difference between just having physical sex and

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Speaker 1: something that I miss, the difference and being I miss

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Speaker 1: sex and love and like that passion and having that

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Speaker 1: connection with somebody. And you know, that didn't make it

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Speaker 1: to air, but it was. It wasn't fully me just hey,

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Speaker 1: look what I can do. No, it wasn't that. There

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Speaker 1: was more deeper meaning to it, and um, unfortunately just

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Speaker 1: didn't play it that way. Okay, I know, but I

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Speaker 1: love that would get an explanation now. And that's why

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Speaker 1: it's so great to talk to people when they get

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Speaker 1: off the show speaking of you know, honestly like sex

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Speaker 1: and nudity and all that stuff. How did you guys

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Speaker 1: react to Bend stripping down in that moment? Like, did

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Speaker 1: that feel odd to you guys the way it did

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Speaker 1: for us as an audience. We got to know more

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Speaker 1: about the background as to why that moves. Possibly you know,

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Speaker 1: was more meaningful than it seemed in the moment, but

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Speaker 1: for you guys as a group of his peers, like,

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Speaker 1: how did that feel? Yeah, you know, Ben's a very

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Speaker 1: deep guy. He's he's got a lot of thoughts going

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Speaker 1: up in those in that head, and he's very very emotional,

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Speaker 1: and he felt like that was the best way to

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Speaker 1: express himself at the time that I see it coming. No,

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Speaker 1: but it's something that he would do, and um, I

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Speaker 1: know if anyone else in that room would have done that,

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Speaker 1: maybe aside for me because I have been naked probably

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Speaker 1: three times by that spot by point, but but no, Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, if you're coming on

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Speaker 1: be able to risk things. And that was a risking

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Speaker 1: thing to do. But she loved it. He did the

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Speaker 1: right thing. Um, I didn't see it coming, but it

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Speaker 1: for some reason they kicked me off, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: you know what. That's the thing. Up to that point,

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Speaker 1: I had followed Claire for a while, so I listened

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Speaker 1: I saw her posts. I knew how meaningful it was

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Speaker 1: take that and throw in my face. Although she made

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Speaker 1: it seem like that at night one, when she brought

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Speaker 1: would have been, um, such a disservice to her if

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Speaker 1: I wanted to show her that I was invested. She

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Speaker 1: And um, I don't regret that at all. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that you did research so that

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Speaker 1: seem very invested in Claire. We saw you with I

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Speaker 1: like we're the only ones that stood out with Claire.

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Speaker 1: But then when she left, it seems like you had

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Speaker 1: a pretty easy transition to Titia. Why do you feel

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Speaker 1: she would have wanted to pick Brendan. I think that's

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00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 1: what who she liked the most at that time. Um,

431
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 1: but I feel like I feel like Zach would have

432
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: probably been the best suited. Zach is my front runner

433
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: to win as that's that's I feel like he's just

434
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 1: it's more complete there. Okay. I on even like the

435
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: question do you want to go on Paradise because I

436
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: feel like people who say no are big fat liars. Yeah,

437
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: so I'm not. I'm not saying no. What I'll say

438
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: to that is so what I'll say to that is

439
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: is that you know, I came into this experience fully

440
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: invested in looking for something. I'm this place of my life.

441
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm not here to play around anymore. I don't want date,

442
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't want like. I'm looking for something. And so

443
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: if someone comes around that connects all the dots and

444
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: checks all the boxes for me, then you won't see

445
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: me in Paradise by the time that that comes about

446
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 1: in the summer. If I'm if I'm single by that time,

447
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: then there's a probably a good chance to see me there.

448
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: But I'm actively looking for my person, So um, I'm

449
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: not setting things aside or changing my life. I'm living

450
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 1: normally again and looking for somebody. So um, it's probably

451
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: And who in the franchise would you hope to get

452
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: a date with if you were there? This is See,

453
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: this is difficult because like it's hard to say that.

454
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: I feel like there's gonna be multiple seasons to choose

455
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: from and we don't really I mean you can and

456
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: you can anticipate some right that you might have a feeling,

457
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: but um, I think it just in terms of the franchise,

458
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: Like really, I'm looking for someone who's like minded, ready

459
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: in the same mental spaces me saying, like part of

460
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: their life whe they're ready for something. Um, there's some

461
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: girls that stand out for sure to me in that way.

462
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: Any names, Blake, we need names, I'll give you a couple,

463
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: but I really don't know anything really about but I'll

464
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: give you some. And these are just, uh no, more

465
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: than that, I think, Um, these people are just kind

466
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: of stand out because they are more than just good looking.

467
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,239
Speaker 1: Like I see, I like that Kenda Long has an

468
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: interest in like a lot of like the animals and

469
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: like loves that kind of thing because I could connect

470
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: them that way. And she's cute any Doorphins just because

471
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: she's got her together and like it's any doorphan she's

472
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: got it I'll figured out. Um, I don't know. Christina

473
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: Shalman is really good looking. I don't know anything about her.

474
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: So like there's girls that like I'm definitely have an

475
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: eye on it a way, but I don't know if

476
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: I'll ever seen in paradise. So who knows? Awesome. I

477
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: love your I love your choices. My last question is,

478
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: just tell us a little bit about your job. You

479
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: are a wildlife manager in Ontario, Canada, and you work

480
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: with endangered species. So tell us the coolest animals you

481
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: work with, and like how you create these amazing bonds

482
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: of the animals. Okay, So the way that it kind

483
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: of played out is so I do a lot of

484
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: volunteer work with more of the endangered species things. So

485
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: um last year I went to Africa and worked with

486
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: rhinos Um. This year and going back to Africa and

487
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: I UM hoping to set up a little bit more

488
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: of an experience. I've been in contact with a couple

489
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: of organizations to do more work in the wildlife field

490
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: and wildlfe conservation field. So looking to pair up with

491
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: an organization that basically has purchased this big piece of

492
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: land in Africa hundred fifty acres that's been basically the

493
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: wildlife has been decimated by poaching. So we're looking to

494
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: put basically plants together anti poaching programs to restore the

495
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: wildlife there and then go and visit some other sanctuaries

496
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: and things and just lend a hand where people need

497
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: it because out in Africa that's a big problem with

498
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: poaching crisis out there. So, um, that's more volunteer type

499
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: work that I do here. It's actually more just human

500
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: wildlife conflict in terms of pest and wildlife management and

501
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: urban settings. So if you get something in your at

502
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: I could you could call me and I'd be like, like,

503
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: here's some thematic be the size of the poops I

504
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: hear that this time, and I like, I could walk

505
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: you through that type of thing. Um. So it's it's

506
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: more pest of wildlife related uh in this setting back home. Um,

507
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: But it's a combination of things that I'm slowly starting

508
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: to transition more into the while they have conservation space

509
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: on a larger scale, hopefully overseason over and AFA. So

510
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: basically in school, when I was living in a dorm

511
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: and I went to go to the bathroom in the

512
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: middle of the night and I saw a bat flying

513
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: directly at me through the hallway in a very Dracula

514
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: like manner. You would be, I would, yeah, and we

515
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: would be saving it. We'd be putting it outside. Good. Yeah. Yeah,

516
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: they've got they've got white nose syndrome and they're endangered

517
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: right now, really bad. Yeah, we could have a whole

518
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: chat on wildlife one days. That's really fun. Okay, Well,

519
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: if we ever going to do an in depth with it,

520
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: we would love to do that. So Blake, thanks for

521
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Joe winning us. It's been really fun watching you on

522
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: the show. And um we hope to see you more

523
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: in Paradise. Awesome. Thanks for having me appreciate it. All right, Well,

524
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: it looks like Ben is able to join the pod now.

525
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: I know he had a conference today. I'm excited to

526
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: get him on. Hey Ben, what's up? Ashley? Hey Pump

527
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: to be here? What an episode we had to break down? Uh, Ashley,

528
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: I think it's always worked best here recently because these

529
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: episodes have been so action packed to break down the

530
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: episode first and then do bachelor headlines at the very end.

531
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: What do you think Let's do it in that manner again?

532
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: So we well, Ashley, we have hometown dates. Uh. This week,

533
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Zach Ivan, Ben, and Brendon are the men left. This

534
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: is a big episode. It's never been done this way,

535
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: but obviously, um, I want to start talking about it

536
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: this way. I really loved how Chris Harrison walks into

537
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: the room and tells the men before the dates who's

538
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: actually going to be there. Yeah, that was cool because

539
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: it was a surprise for them, and I also love

540
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: the fact that it was is it weird? I think

541
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: he was more personal that they had to do something makeshift.

542
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: I think like everything about shooting in one location has

543
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: kind of been a positive this season. It's just made

544
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: everything more relatable, more real feeling, I would agree, more creative,

545
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: and like it makes it seem like they need to

546
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: add an extra little bit of effort, in which I

547
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: have appreciated. That's an interesting point you bring up. Like,

548
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I really loved how they had to create their dates.

549
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: It was more personal. However, I think it's been great

550
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: for this season. I think it's going to be great

551
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: for that season. However, I don't know if I want

552
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: to do it long term. Yeah, you know, it's good

553
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: for now. They've done a great job with what they

554
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: ad I just don't know that for the next ten

555
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: seasons if I want to see it in one place. Yeah,

556
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I totally agree with you, all right,

557
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: So let's get into it. To Brendan, who had his

558
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: brother Daniel and his wife and his niece there. His

559
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: niece kind of plays a role throughout the entire you know,

560
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: portion of his which was so cute. She was at

561
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: the carnival with him. He said that there's a lot

562
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: of carnivals in his small town, so they played a

563
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: lot of carnival games. It was adorable, very playful. I

564
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: think it was great to see Brendan's father lee side

565
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: come out, especially since Tatia talks about wanting to have

566
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: five kids. One day I was one, I know that

567
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: his dad passed away, and he talked about that, and

568
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: that's so sad. Did we find anything about his mom

569
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: being there or did his mom pass away as well? Yeah, see,

570
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: that was a question I had. I don't know that.

571
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: So that's a good question for our listeners because they

572
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: they find out things sometimes better than anybody can. And

573
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: so listeners out there, if you know anything about what

574
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: happened to Brendon's mom, uh, it would be fantastic to know, um.

575
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: But there actually I want to bring a point to

576
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: the top right away, um, because here's the thing with

577
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: these guys, and they've been a great group of guys

578
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: for the most part, um, and and a really solid

579
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: group of gentlemen, like they've treated each other with respect,

580
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: especially guys. Towards the end, Uh, they've really focused on Tasia.

581
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: But something really cool kind of stood out to me

582
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: during Brendan's date and then it kind of led into

583
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: every date for the most part since his date during

584
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Hometowns is there's these moments during the date where these

585
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: men looked at somebody in their life that they loved

586
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: and respected, and they looked him in the eyes and

587
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: they said, I just want you to know how much

588
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: I care about you and how great you've been to me,

589
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: And you saw grown men cry through it. Like it's

590
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: one of the things that we talked about on the

591
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: show a lot. But I think it's one of those

592
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: growing moments that happened when you're on the show, is

593
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: you start to miss people that you love and you

594
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: also start to realize just how big of a role

595
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: they had in your life. And I thought that was

596
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: an incredible thing to each date. But it really stood

597
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: out to me during Brendan's date and when he talked

598
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: to his brother. I agree with you there, but I

599
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: also like, I don't know that I can say more

600
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: so on his portion of the date than than Ivan

601
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: with his brother, or or Zach with Zack's daddy. Was

602
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: so cute with his mom too. But we'll talk about

603
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Zack in a second. But Brendan's date went well, but

604
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to be super honest, it was probably the

605
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: most forgettable for me of all four of them. It

606
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: could be because it was the first one. Um, but

607
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: watching this, it made me feel like Brendan was the

608
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: one who had a lesser advantage going into the row

609
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: ceremony until we see the ending of Ben's date, which

610
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: kind of turns things. But did you feel the same

611
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: way with Brendan. I don't know. I cannot disagree with

612
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: you more. Really, it wasn't that I didn't love the family.

613
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: I love the family, love Brendan. I think he's so emotional,

614
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: such a sweetheart. I just didn't feel the chemistry between

615
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Tatia and him. I was just like, um, I feel

616
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: like this connection might be the weakest. Now, I don't

617
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: disagree with you when it comes to chemistry. Um, I

618
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: still think he might be kind of the surprise here,

619
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: but right now as we see it, I think Brendan

620
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: probably has the weakest connection out of any of them. However, uh,

621
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: this day is memorable to me because I feel like

622
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: he got a huge advantage. Now, going first is never easy. However,

623
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: he brings in the niece, and that niece is incredible.

624
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 1: So anytime you have somebody that wants five kids and

625
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: you bring in a niece or a child to hang

626
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: out for the day and you see how those two

627
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: interact like that is a massive advantage. It is cute

628
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, no, I mean it was very cute,

629
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think the cute added up enough for

630
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: me to be thinking about Brendan and the end of things.

631
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: I actually felt like Ivan was the one who like

632
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: stepped up in this episode. We we knew that Zach's

633
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: I think, like we know the connection with Zach is strong.

634
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: I think that he's just always been a shoe in

635
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: for top two, but I thought Ivan who Honestly, as

636
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: of last night, I wasn't sure who's going to round

637
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: out this Top four, whether it was gonna be Ivan

638
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: or Riley. And then Ivan comes in with this with

639
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: the cute cooking date, which I can tell you guys

640
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: from when we were down there doing the breakfast portion

641
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: of the Grown ass Man Challenge. Tasia really stressed that

642
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: cooking is a huge part of her life. It's something

643
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: that she wants to do with a guy. She wants

644
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: a guy with a good cook, who's a good cook,

645
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: who's a good cooker. And I'm like, that's so funny

646
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: to put on your list of like wishes for a

647
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: man good cook. You know, it's like that seems like

648
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: a nice bonus, but it's very important for her. And

649
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: I thought that he got a little bump up to me.

650
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: And then I freaking loved Ivan's dad. He was so

651
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: cute And can we get a confirmation on this? Did

652
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: he say that he was eighty a couple episodes ago?

653
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they were talking about age difference

654
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: and like his dad's age and health and stuff. I

655
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: thought he said he was eighty, But I could be

656
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: completely making up with making that up. His dad looks fantastic,

657
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: such a sweet man. Then his mom is adorable, and

658
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: then his brother came in, and you know that was

659
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: a very emotional moment. I just I just feel like

660
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: that's like a very close knit family, and Tasia loves

661
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: to see that. Yeah, So you know, Ivan's story was

662
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: hit home with me. You know, I've I've talked about

663
00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: my dead head cancer. He's had heart heart failure. Um,

664
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: I know, I know the emotions that that has, like

665
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: when you walk through that with a you know, a parent. Now,

666
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: obviously this season we've we have a lot of stories

667
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: of these men losing parents, are having a disconnect from

668
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: their families, and I really started to feel friving there. Also, though,

669
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: starts to all make sense to me on why he

670
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: is so wise. He is very mature. Uh, he's very

671
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: empathetic because he's walked through some Like I don't think

672
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: you can become wise unless you walk through some stuff

673
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: in life, and it feels like Ivan's walked through some stuff.

674
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: And so this hometown date just really felt like for

675
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: me less of a Hey, this is fun and exciting

676
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: and more of a wow, we're really getting to know

677
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: this man and this is a good dude, Like he's

678
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: a solid, solid guy. Um. You know, Ivan's mom is

679
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: a little skeptical, which makes actually there's a part of

680
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: the episode that I want to ask you about, Chris

681
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: Harrison walks in and kind of pumps Ivan up by saying, Hey,

682
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: your mom is here, and she's so excited to be here. Yeah,

683
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: so cute. I think, like you just could tell Harrison

684
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: liked her exactly. But then she's also one of the

685
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: most skeptical family members that we see in this episode.

686
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: And skepticism. Fine, if you're a parent and you're not

687
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: a little skeptical this whole thing, like you know that

688
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: it's fair to be skeptical, did you Yeah, definitely, That's

689
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: what I want to do. Now. I'm just do you

690
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: think do you think that she showed the excitement that

691
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: you were expecting based on how Harrison kind of introduced her. Um, Yeah,

692
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: actually okay, So in the previews it seemed like she

693
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: was going to be tough, and then when I met her,

694
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, we met her and she's had down with Asia,

695
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I love the way she's expressing her skepticism,

696
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: because like she's cautious and like worried for her son

697
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: and all that, but like not in an angsty way,

698
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: like not in a I'm trying to gang up on

699
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: the lead type way that I did see a little

700
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: bit from Zack's brother, Like zach s brotherer just you know,

701
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: came in on the defensive, and I like the way

702
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: that um Ivan's mom did it with like a little

703
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: bit more of a gentle approach. Well. Uh, Ivan's hometown

704
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: date was one that I just really really enjoyed watching

705
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: because we've got a whole perspective who Ivan is, what

706
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: his family is. Uh. You see his dad and his mom,

707
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: and you know the story of his dad as we

708
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: just talked about. But his brother comes in kind of

709
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: in a shocking twist, right. He didn't know his brother

710
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: was going to be there. Um, It's interesting because I'm

711
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, Ivan's brother obviously like has a story

712
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: to tell and to see him on the Bachelorette is

713
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: not probably something he ever expected. Yet his brother was fantastic.

714
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Just the way Ivan and his brother communicated with each other. Again,

715
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: for Ivan to look his brother in the eyes and say,

716
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: you know how much you mean to me? Like, those

717
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: are moments on this show that just like pull my

718
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: heart out and like throw it to the heavens, like

719
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: it is absolutely beautiful. I agree, I loved it. He there,

720
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: there's such sweeties. They're definitely an odd couple, you know

721
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, They're very different, but there's that family

722
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: bond there. You can tell how close they are. I

723
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: also loved as part of Ivan's dates that um, his

724
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: dad sat downtation and was like, you know what, I

725
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: was divorced as well, and like they had that little

726
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: moment he was like I was very young, how old

727
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: were you? And then he talked about just you know,

728
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: maturing in order to find that right person. And I

729
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: just I like the way that they were like having

730
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: their own sort of bond. Yeah. There there's just something

731
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I could think of a

732
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: better word, but like spirit warm, but like spiritual about

733
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: those moments, like you know, in the sense of it

734
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: transcended TV, transcended conversation. When I watched this, I felt

735
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: something different than I what I usually feel watching this show.

736
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: And that's what I look for in seasons, right, Like

737
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: that's what I want is to feel like I am invested.

738
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean I would be lying to you if I

739
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: said that, like multiple times are in this episode. Not

740
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: that I wept, but like that my eyes didn't get

741
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: teary because to c two people sitting next to each

742
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: other at this stage in their lives and say I

743
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: love you, I respect you. And then to have his

744
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: dad sit down Withtation and say, hey, I get it,

745
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: like you've been divorced. But once I found that right person,

746
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: I know it was the best thing for me, especially

747
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: knowing that, like as his dad says this, he also

748
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: like has had to deal with some health issues and

749
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: know that, like, hey, life's not easy. So I don't know. Actually,

750
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: like Ivan's hometown date, yeah, I'll just call it spiritual

751
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: and people hopefully will know what I'm talking about, like

752
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: it transcended these Yeah, this whole this whole episode proved

753
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: to me that it's like probably one of the most

754
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: emotional seasons we've ever watched, and Tasia's has been an abbreviate,

755
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: abbreviated season two. So it's it's been good. I've really

756
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: really enjoyed myself. Should we go back to Zach which

757
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: was probably the date that like I felt the most

758
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: butterflies on behalf of the couple, and that I felt

759
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: I didn't cry, but I did like feel like a swelling,

760
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: a welling, a welling during this date. And I think

761
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: it's just because this family was so cute, Like how

762
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: sweet were the parents? Just like so real and authentic,

763
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: and um, Zach's Zach is just being so happy and

764
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: just talking about how his family has never seen him

765
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: like this and then telling Tasia like wow, like this

766
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: is a whole this is like the best of Zach, right,

767
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: and you bring it out in him. So I don't

768
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: know what I loved this, states his brother. Yeah, was

769
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: hard on her, but you know, whatever that happens, like

770
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: you get that where that happens, there is there's a

771
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: lot of skepticism that comes into this whole experience, and

772
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: I understand why, especially when you have a brother who

773
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: knows Zack's past. Right, he doesn't know the conversations that

774
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Tatian Zach have had. He doesn't know how open Zack

775
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: has been with her, and so he's coming and going, hey,

776
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: I know where Zach has been. I know that he's

777
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: had moments in his life that have been really hard

778
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: for him. And I'm hesitant to just like jump into

779
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: this being like Okay, this is all good, knowing that

780
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: like his brother's fragile in a lot of ways, like

781
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: he's he's been through some stuff. Again, that's where wisdom

782
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: comes from. Um, I guess I've never had this experience,

783
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: and I want to hear from you on what your

784
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: take is. I've I've had low moments in my life,

785
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: and I've had friends who've had low moments. I've had

786
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: a friend with me, lived with me for seven months

787
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: after his divorce, and to have the whole family go hey,

788
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: I've never seen Zack smile like this is beautiful? Yet?

789
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Is it also a little bit like would it be

790
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: weird as you as a family member to go, hey,

791
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: like what was happening with Zack before this show? Because

792
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: he's obviously had time to heal. He's obviously, you know,

793
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: done great things when it comes to rehab and in

794
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: his involvement with the rehabilitation clinic. But like the fact

795
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: that Zack hasn't smiled like this before, Uh, is either

796
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: a really beautiful thing or it's like why not? Like

797
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: was it really he's just waiting for his Tasia. I

798
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: think that there's like a sliver of me that that

799
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: question cross my mind while watching this. I guess like

800
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: you can sort of say, like, is this the kind

801
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: of person who needs somebody in their life to like

802
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: they're dependent on for happiness? Or and like this is

803
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: the kind of person that can't be happy on their own.

804
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: Like you can sort of question at I'm going to

805
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: say in this case, like I don't believe. I don't

806
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: think that this is something to be concerned about. I

807
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: think that, Like I'm just really excited because it's like

808
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: the cherry on top of his Sunday, Like he's feeling

809
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: complete and like I know that like a lot of

810
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: people say, and I agree to a certain extent, like

811
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: you should be complete on your own and you should

812
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: be happy on your own. But I also, you know,

813
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I love a good old Jerry Maguire line, you complete me,

814
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: Like I just don't think that that's like a bad

815
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: thing to say. You know, you enhance me, you know uh,

816
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: And I think that, Like Zach is definitely enhanced by Tasha.

817
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: And one of the things that like was so big

818
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: here was that he said, I'm fine on my own.

819
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't need to get married and I don't need

820
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: to have a family, like I'm cool with being an uncle.

821
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: But then he tells his mom that he's ready, like

822
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 1: he actually was lying to himself and he was lying

823
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: to everybody else when he said that, because with Tasha

824
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: he's able to openly say that that is what he

825
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: does crave in life. That was so huge, huge, actually,

826
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: like it's not under estimate just how big that is.

827
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: So um, I don't know if I've ever shared this

828
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: with you. My mom listens to the podcast, she should

829
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: know this moment, but probably four years ago, not three

830
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: years ago. I looked at her and I said, Mom,

831
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm okay that being

832
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: single feels like something that maybe is meant for me,

833
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: and I would love one day to find a partner,

834
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's the thing that I'm

835
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: meant to do, and and I just want you to

836
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: know that and be okay with that, so that like

837
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: you're not questioning where I'm at in life. And that

838
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: was a really hard thing for me to say to

839
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: my mom because I'm an only child. My mom and

840
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: dad want grandchildren, and I wanted to bring them grandchildren.

841
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: But it was something that I needed to say to

842
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: her because I was at that place mentally, and I

843
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: was also at that place over a lot, like through

844
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: many seasons of prayer. And but then I also know

845
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: the reverse side of that is when you finally look

846
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: at your parents again, you say I'm in love with

847
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: this woman. She's an incredible partner. She enhances my life,

848
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to do this now. Like in a sense,

849
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true or not, but like

850
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: in a sense, you have to hit I don't want

851
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: to call it rock bottom, because being singles not rock bottom,

852
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: but you have to come to a moment of clarity

853
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: within yourself and then once like you do find that

854
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: partner that matches everything that you didn't think you're gonna find.

855
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Maybe that does bring the smile to Zack's face that

856
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: we're talking about, Like maybe that is just like this

857
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: internal thing inside of him. He's going, Holy God, I

858
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: didn't know this existed, and now I feel something I've

859
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: never felt before, totally down. Do you think that you

860
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: are lying to yourself and your mom when you said

861
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: that three years ago? I don't. I think I think

862
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was prepared to always be single.

863
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: I think I was okay with that. But preparing yourself

864
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: because like you wanted, like you wanted to be okay

865
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: if that happened, Like you're kind of reassuring yourself that

866
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: you'd be okay. Sorry not to go to no, you know, exactly. No.

867
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: I think it's fair because I think there's a lot

868
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: of probably like parallels between what Zach was communicating to

869
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 1: his mom and what I was communicating communicating to mine.

870
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, you have to get to a place where

871
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: you're okay with it now knowing that like you never

872
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: dreamed of that. However, you know there's value in being single. Uh,

873
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with being single. And I think I

874
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: had to get to a place to say, if this

875
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: is what my life's gonna look like, I'm okay with

876
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: it um now Again to go back to Zack, I'm

877
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: answering my own question earlier. But like when you finally

878
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: find that partner that you feel like fits what it

879
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: is you're looking for and that looks back at you

880
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: and says I. And I don't think Tasia has done

881
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: this quite yet, but like if she looks back at

882
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Zach and says, hey, I love you too, that moment

883
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: is is magical. It changes the heart, it changes the mind,

884
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: and it does bring a different kind of smile in

885
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: peace to your life. That maybe that is what Zack's

886
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: feeling right now. I get it because you don't think

887
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: it exists. Yeah, it's so good. It's so good. And

888
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: just before we wrap up, Zach state, I think it's

889
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: also important you or you're talking about how each of

890
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: the guys seem to like, like love their family even

891
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: more after going through this experience. I want to mention

892
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: that he says to his mom that, like the impact

893
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: that he that she's had on his life is like

894
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: so huge that he wouldn't be alive if it weren't

895
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: for her strength. And and for me, you guys know, like,

896
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I've been hiding it, Like Zach is

897
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: on who I want her to end up with. I

898
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: think that Ivan and Brendan are so sweet. I think

899
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: they're going to make the most fantastic husbands, Like they're

900
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: like some of the most quality guys we've seen on

901
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: the show. But I think, like with Zach and watching

902
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: that fifteen minutes segment with him, like that feels like love,

903
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Like that just feels like where Tasia is meant to be.

904
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: I think the other two with you know, Ivan and Brendan,

905
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of potential in those

906
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: situations and in those families, But I just didn't feel

907
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: like it was like as strong as a like I

908
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: just felt like she was at home with Zach, it's uh,

909
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: and she she almost has this giddiness around Zach that

910
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if I see around these other guys,

911
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like she's a little nervous um and

912
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: there's like a serious passion. And it's not just cute,

913
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, like the other two it's cute Cie, but

914
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: with him it's like sexy. It's like heavier. Does that

915
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: make a sense. Also, like the Jersey girl and Me

916
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: has like a sweet spot for Zack too when they

917
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: go through all the New York things. The whole hailing

918
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: a cab was very cute, the pizza and the bagel,

919
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Like I was all in so good. Now can we

920
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: pause here, though, Ash, because there's one thing about this

921
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: episode and I've kind of like just like pounded it

922
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: now to the ground. But the one thing that stands

923
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: out this episode is I don't remember today a more authentic,

924
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: a more heartfelt hometown episode than this one. Like again,

925
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: for Zach to say that to his mom, those are

926
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: life changing moments for his mother, Like his mom will

927
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: never forget those words that she said to him on

928
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: that date, Like Brendan's brother won't forget it Ivan's brother

929
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: won't forget it, Like, these moments are things like I

930
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: know from my experience, and I'm sure you can say

931
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: the same about you. These moments are ones that I

932
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: still keep with me to this day, knowing that when

933
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: I was at my like most like lonely place during

934
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: the time on the show, I just recognized again the

935
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: people in my life that had always had my back,

936
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to tell them, like I just

937
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: wanted to shout out from the rooftop to these are

938
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: good people. I love you, You've got me here. And

939
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: for Zach to say that to his mom in this

940
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: moment is like, it's just so powerful and it's just

941
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: so good about this show that the show does that

942
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: in these moments. I completely agree. I loved it so much.

943
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: We've just broken down three days here, Ivan, Brendan in

944
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: Zack's and they were all powerful in their own way. Um.

945
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: The one obviously that turns a little bit at the

946
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: end is Bens. But before we get into ben'smith stake,

947
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: let's take a break. Uh, And when we come back,

948
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:34,799
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Speaker 1: we're back. And I'm glad that we separated this date

997
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: from the other three. The other three really feel cohesive

998
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: together with me and then with Ben. I'm gonna have

999
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: a really challenging time describing what I was going through.

1000
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I was feeling detached, I feel like, and I feel

1001
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: like I felt detached a lot from Ben. And I

1002
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: know that when I asked people, you know, when I'm

1003
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: out and about and anybody comes up to me. When

1004
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I read our message boards, I see that a lot

1005
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: of people love Ben. They're really rooting for him to

1006
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: go all the way. And I felt like very held

1007
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: back and saying that like that I've been rooting for

1008
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: him because because I don't know that I have UM.

1009
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: I feel like he's had like a lot of powerful

1010
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: stories and he's been a strong character. I think he's

1011
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: very cute. I think that he's a sweet guy. But

1012
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: there's been like something holding me back from from feeling them.

1013
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because he is so guarded, and you

1014
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: see that his family friend and his sister both talk

1015
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: about how guarded he is. And perhaps it's because you know,

1016
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: the depression that he's gone through, or like past experiences

1017
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: with girls. But there's been something about him for me

1018
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: that just like radiates and like, I'm so sorry if

1019
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: I get this wrong. This is just what my gut's

1020
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: been saying. But he just seems like the guy to

1021
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: me that takes you on a few great dates you're

1022
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: totally swooned by, and then you don't hear from him.

1023
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: And maybe and maybe it's because he's scared, and he's

1024
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: like the guy that she's scared to jump into a

1025
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: relationship if he starts feeling feelings, or maybe he's just

1026
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: not ready. I don't know. I've and then and then

1027
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: we get to this day and I just feel like

1028
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: there was like something lingering in the air that just

1029
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: didn't feel it made me feel like I just don't

1030
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: want her to end up with him. There's something about

1031
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: this like I'm worried for her, her if she picks

1032
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: him in the end. So that's why I was a

1033
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: little bit relieved seeing him go home, as hard as

1034
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: that is to I about someone well. And like you know, Forbiden,

1035
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: he's guarded. Yeah, he has opened up with some very

1036
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: heavy things throughout this whole season, and you know he's

1037
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: talked to Tasha about these things. There is one thing left,

1038
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: There's one thing left forbid to do that kind of

1039
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of wrapped the bow on top of their story,

1040
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: and that is to tell Tasia exactly how he feels

1041
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: um And so we're kind of waiting for that pinnacle moment, right.

1042
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: But also noticed that normally in the hometown dates, there's

1043
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: I'd say, there's like some expectation to say I love you, Right,

1044
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: that's when you start saying I'm falling in love with

1045
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: you or I love you. And that's like kind of

1046
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: the way that they closed the card door at the

1047
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: end of the night and drive off this I felt

1048
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: like there wasn't that sort of pressure here. Maybe it's

1049
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: because you know that she's had less weeks with them

1050
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: at this point. Um. But but there was pressure for

1051
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: for Ben to say it. And maybe it's just because

1052
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: Ben has been quieter about revealing his feelings. Yeah, well,

1053
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: you know the truth. This whole thing is, we're waiting

1054
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: for this and it just didn't happen, and it felt

1055
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: like the whole date fell short because the whole story

1056
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: wasn't being told right. Ben is convinced by uh, the

1057
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: ladies in his life during the state that he is

1058
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: in love, and he goes, I am in love now

1059
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: being convinced that you're in love. I think he already

1060
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: knew it, um, but he had to be told it.

1061
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: And so then the response is, well, is he ready

1062
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: to tell Tasia this? Because it's getting down to the wire.

1063
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: There's some great men left. He knows that, and he

1064
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: doesn't say it now. Actually, I want to ask you

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00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: this because I don't remember past seasons very well, but

1066
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: at this point in time, usually during a season like

1067
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: there is some some more he did conversation amongst the

1068
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: families and amongst the contestants on hey, like, where are

1069
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: you at? Uh? If if he were to propose to you,

1070
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: would you say yes? Like we only see it was

1071
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: Zack's brother, where he's really the only one that fully

1072
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: confronts the situation where it's like, hey, tell me where

1073
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,479
Speaker 1: you're out with these other guys, because that's gonna help

1074
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: me understand. Now, with Ben, it almost feels like it

1075
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: would have helped out if he would have been pushed

1076
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: even harder to say, Hey, Ben, if you feel this

1077
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: way about Tasia, you need to tell her. If you don't,

1078
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: then stay quiet. Well he stayed quiet, and it left

1079
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired at the end of this

1080
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: date because I went into the final Rows ceremony on

1081
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: this show almost expecting Ben to go home because it

1082
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: felt like there was so much confusion yet with Tasia,

1083
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: and he had already so like if we go back

1084
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: in their story, and I know we're houning this, but like,

1085
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: you go back in their story. Tasia had to directly

1086
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: tell him Ben, I need you to show up. And

1087
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: when I say show up, like I just need you

1088
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: to show up and be authentic and honest with me.

1089
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: And he did it in parts right. He shared a

1090
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: lot about his story. It made sense to all of

1091
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: us as viewers, but in the moment that she needs

1092
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: him to show up the most, which is to say, hey,

1093
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: I've obviously like I've heard your story, I care about

1094
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: your story. I'm falling for you. He stays quiet, and

1095
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: I just wonder, and I'm assuming here, I wonder if

1096
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: in Tatia's mind she said, hey, like I needed somebody

1097
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: show up. These other guys did show up. I've had

1098
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: to tell Ben to show up to his face he didn't.

1099
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: And now now it needs to be done because I

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00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: can't keep begging for something that I know exists yet

1101
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: he won't confront it. Yeah. No, I guess I agree

1102
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: with you. I just felt like it was like a

1103
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: dramatic turn. We he seems super happy with the family,

1104
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: and then that they walk outside have that conversation on

1105
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: the bench and she was like it's over, or like

1106
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: she got she didn't say it's over. She showed obvious irritation,

1107
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: and maybe, yeah, maybe it's just because she's like, Okay,

1108
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: I've told you to open up a zillion times, and

1109
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: why do I have to tell you before you do

1110
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: each time? Now? Yeah, and I think that would get frustrating,

1111
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: like in a relationship, that would get tiring. Now, Bachelor

1112
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: Nation is going to freak out right like they love

1113
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: all these guys. I think Ben obviously has a lot

1114
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: of support behind him, as he should, so this is

1115
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a very controversial exit. However, I do think

1116
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: that the viewers will understand it if we do look

1117
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: at it from that perspective of, Hey, I've asked you

1118
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: to show up, you didn't. Why do I always have

1119
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: to ask you to show up? And because you didn't

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: this time, it's time for us to separate and go

1121
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: our different ways. Yeah, I mean, let us know. Maybe

1122
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: she had this hi sensus I had. I don't know.

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00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit out of I'm not really like

1124
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: at a loss for it. I feel like I need

1125
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: to watch it again. I need to watch that transition

1126
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: from like leaving the family to going on the bench

1127
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 1: and then her walking away from him all irritated. Well,

1128
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot left unsaid. I think that's the best

1129
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: way to summarize that. Now. Obviously, we see the end

1130
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: of the episode where Ben does go home, he does

1131
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: not receive a rose. It is a very heartfelt exit.

1132
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: We see Tatian been sitting on the bench together, um

1133
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: and it hurts and I think it hurts them both.

1134
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: I think there's frustration probably between them both you. Hear

1135
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: Ben say, uh, once again, I messed up. Um he

1136
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: it's hard now to backtrack and try to fix it.

1137
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: So we see been going home and we're left with

1138
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: three great guys, Ivan, Zack, and Brendan walking into Fantasy

1139
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Suite week. Uh, which will be a huge week for

1140
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: them and their relationship ships. Ashley, We're gonna pause again here,

1141
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: what an episode it was. I think this was. I mean,

1142
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: I think the best way to summarize the hometowns this

1143
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: season are authentic, heartfelt, um and heart pulling. Uh. But

1144
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we come back. We're gonna

1145
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: break down bachelor headlines from this week. Uh and uh man,

1146
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: what an episode it was. We're back with almost in

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01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: I Cannet you to break down is Claire Crawley suggests

1172
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: she wasn't allowed to attend bachelorettes men tell all Dale

1173
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Moss slams Joseph obviously, which we won't talk about a

1174
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: lot during this EPISO, but this according to us Weekly. Yeah,

1175
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: so Claire is always trying to hint things at us

1176
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: for from based on what she likes on social media.

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: She did tweet herself, I wish they would have let

1178
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: me be in attendance to let these men know in

1179
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: person how much their words and support have meant to me.

1180
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, gentlemen. Sounds kind of sassy. Sounds like she

1181
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: was a little annoyed that she didn't have her own

1182
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: tell all or wasn't part of this uh. She also

1183
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: she also said she also liked a series of tweets

1184
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: on Monday night, including one that suggested that they shouldn't

1185
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: have had the villain Joseph come back again, Like, let's

1186
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: not give this guy more screen time. This is what

1187
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: he obviously craves. I totally agree Joseph probably, you know,

1188
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gotten more screen time. But you know this,

1189
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: this is reality t V show and they need entertainment.

1190
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: And of course, as gross as he came across, it

1191
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: was still entertaining to see somebody who's so like beyond

1192
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: conception to you know what I mean, Like you just

1193
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: can't believe that like somebody like him exists anyway, Then

1194
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 1: you tweeted something great last night. It's perfectly worded. You said,

1195
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: if everyone around you feels like you are not behaving correctly,

1196
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: or that you are causing damage with your actions, you

1197
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: should humble yourself to listen, and your opinion alone is

1198
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: not always the truth. Beneficial right and loving accountability is

1199
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: actually an incredible thing. So Well said there, and Dale

1200
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,959
Speaker 1: had to, you know, get this off his chest as well.

1201
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: He said, he sounds more like me, he goes. This

1202
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: fool had enough pride and arrogance to sit on TV

1203
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: and believe that's how a man should act towards a woman,

1204
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: even condoning that type of act towards his daughter, even

1205
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: condoning that act towards his own daughter. How people ever,

1206
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: actually defended someone like this and his actions is mind numbing. Yeah. So,

1207
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, as we said, like, no need to

1208
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: give yourself anymore screen time. But obviously Claire in Dale

1209
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: and myself and many others were upset that this has

1210
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: happened and the way it did in the language used

1211
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: around it. But we're gonna move on to Matt James's

1212
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: season now. We'll have one of our most popular episodes

1213
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: here coming up in just a few weeks after tacious

1214
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: seasons over when we break down each and every cast member,

1215
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: knowing nothing about them other than their picture, their hometown,

1216
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: their name, of their profession. And at that point in time,

1217
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick um some of our favorites and who

1218
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: we think you should look out for. We're never right, um,

1219
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: In fact, most of the time, I'm super wrong on everything. However,

1220
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to do. It's always a

1221
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: good practice. Um. But if we skip kind of the

1222
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: cast member breakdown, which again we'll have a whole episode

1223
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: about here in just a few weeks, make sure you're

1224
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: tune in for it. There is an interesting headline that

1225
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: talks about uh some mystery Bachelor lum joining Matt James's cast.

1226
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: This is a big deal, now, Ashley, you are in

1227
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: the know when it comes to Bachelor Nation. What tell

1228
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: us about the story? And then who do you think

1229
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 1: it is so interesting? Right? Well, a lot of people

1230
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: are thinking it's Hannah because Hannah of course created a

1231
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: great friendship with Matt during the quarantine crew when they

1232
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: were all down in Florida quarantining with Tyler. Well, you

1233
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna I think we're gonna need the

1234
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: detectives out there to see who was possibly off social

1235
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: media throughout a couple of weeks during the fall or

1236
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,959
Speaker 1: I guess in the instance that this person doesn't stick

1237
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: around very long, maybe just a week. Does anybody even

1238
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: notice if somebody has been off Instagram for a week.

1239
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. If it was a major character in

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01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: the franchise, I would say that that would be obvious.

1241
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: But if it was, you know, somebody that maybe hasn't

1242
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: made a huge splash, then I think they can get

1243
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: away with not having their phone for a while and

1244
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: people people wouldn't catch up, catch on, catch onto it. So, UM,

1245
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. You guys send in your theories. Um,

1246
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be Hannah. I don't

1247
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: think it's hand it's an at all. I think that

1248
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: if there is any spark there, it would have already,

1249
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, um been experimented with. I also think that

1250
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: she and Matt have a very strong friendship. Those are

1251
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: the vibes that we've gotten through their social media. So

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a gas for fun. Jen Saviano

1253
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: uh interesting from the twentie season of the Bachelor, which

1254
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: which I was able to take part in that would

1255
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: be interesting. Um yeah, I'm thinking it's somebody like from

1256
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: like my season. Like, I'm thinking somebody that has been

1257
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: in the franchise a bit hasn't found love. Uh saw

1258
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: Matt James and like this is my dude, and went

1259
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: on to give it a shot, And that would be awesome, right,

1260
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be a cool thing to have happened.

1261
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: Who knows who it is now Matt James wild ride

1262
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: is continuing. Chris Harrison is speaking out a lot right

1263
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: now about this season. There's obviously a lot of press

1264
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: around it. But there's a funny story that goes on

1265
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: where Chris Harrison admits that Matt James had no idea

1266
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: what a roast ceremony was. Uh. This according to US Weekly,

1267
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: which means that he never watched Tyler's season with Hannah.

1268
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess. Yeah. So Harrison said that

1269
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: sometimes the producers would just be like explaining how a

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Speaker 1: day was gonna go. He's like, we'd all be talking

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Speaker 1: like a thousand miles an hour, just like assuming that

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Speaker 1: he knew the ropes, and then Matt would stop them

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01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, guys, I don't know what they're saying.

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: He even said, I don't know what a rose ceremony is,

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01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: and he's like and then like the producers are like, wow, um,

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Okay, we've gotta teach this guy a

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01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: thing or two. Harrison also recently said that there were

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Speaker 1: times throughout the season where he and Matt had words

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01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: with each other. He also said that there were moments

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Speaker 1: where they hugged and loved each other. He said, he's

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01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: a He's a terrific man. H he loved going through

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: this with them, But he said, like, if you don't

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: go through those like highs and lows, you're probably not

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01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: doing it right. So maybe there's not anything to like

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Speaker 1: really worry about. What like we had words with each other,

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: but like you didn't have words of Harrison while filming

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Speaker 1: your season. I feel like a lot of bachelors don't

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: get heated with Harrison. Do you think this is just

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: like some good click bait for us, like a nice

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: a nice quote or is there really going to be

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: some friction there? I think there's friction, uh, And I

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01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of respect for each other

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01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: from everything I understand about how this season is, and

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01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about the outcome. But I

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01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: do know, uh, you know who Matt is. I've been

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: talking a few times. I think he stands strong and

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Speaker 1: the things he believes, and I think Harrison stands strong

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01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: and thing he thinks he believes, which is a fair

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Speaker 1: thing to do, right. Nobody's asking the Bachelor bachel arette

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01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: just to uh, you know. It's one of the cool

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01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: parts about being the lead. There's no rules, and so

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: if you want to stand up for something, stand up

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01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: for it. And I'm sure there is moments during this

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: whole thing where Matt said no, I'm not doing that

1305
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: or I don't agree with this, and that's a terrific

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: thing to do. Everybody always wants to blame editing and

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: producers for everything, but I've preached it since the time

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: I got the show. You have every ability to say no,

1309
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: like and like everybody's gonna agree, Like, nobody's gonna fight

1310
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: you on that. If you put your foot down and

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: say I'm not doing that or I'm not gonna I'm

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01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: not gonna behave this way or whatever, the producer will say, Okay,

1313
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: that's your call. And so I hope Matt did that

1314
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: because I think he's a good dude. I think when

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01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: he does that, it's going to be for the right reasons,

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: even if it's not the best decision. I think he's

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01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: gonna have the best intentions when he puts his foot down. Yeah,

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: all right, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be super good.

1319
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: Now here's a little going back to Claire for a

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01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: secondnother headline that just came up this week. It's just

1321
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 1: super interesting. Uh. Yeah, you know, we've we've not doubted

1322
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: that Claire was very excited about dating Dale. In fact,

1323
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: if you remember right, she left this season a few

1324
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: weeks into date Dale. Uh, and then on the kind

1325
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: of sit down with them, she told Dale that she

1326
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: was like ready start having babies, and like that was

1327
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: a moment that we all kind of went, oh no,

1328
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: because he kind of reacted hesitantly. Well, Claire Crawley clarifies

1329
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: this week she has to clarify her relationships at US

1330
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: with Dale Moss after calling him her husband. This according

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01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: to US Weekly, on Thursday night, they were around New York,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and she says, nothing makes me happier. Maybe

1333
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: it was South Dakota, I don't know. It looked cold

1334
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 1: outside and it was dark, and she said nothing makes

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01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: me happier than grocery shopping with my husband. And I

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: was like okay. So then of course she post another

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01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: Instagram story slide and says slip of the tongue. We

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01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: aren't married. It's like slip of the tongue. You've recorded

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: yourself saying it, then you pressed send, you know, you

1340
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: pressed upload that was on a slip of the tongue.

1341
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: That was like, no, that was something to get people talking.

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't you know what, Like,

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01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: if it was meant to get people talking, then that

1344
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: was a very strategic move. However, I see it more

1345
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: being like a slip of the tongue. Yeah, I feel

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: like she's just overly excited. Not overly, I mean, she's

1347
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: engaged in love with this dude, so I don't know

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: if you can be overly excited about the future. I

1349
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: think she's just so excited that she said it, posted it,

1350
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: and then realized, oh no, I got a backcheck. However,

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01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: I never thought about it. It It could definitely be a

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: strategic move to get people talking. It would feel weird,

1353
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: like that's you, that's just exactly you telling Jess that

1354
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: she's I can't I love going grocery shopping with my wife.

1355
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,879
Speaker 1: You wouldn't do that, no, because yeah, exactly. Like if anything,

1356
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,440
Speaker 1: I still like at times like call her my girlfriend.

1357
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like I'm always one step behind. Like you know,

1358
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm super excited about marrying the girl, but like I

1359
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: still like, for whatever reason, and more likely to refer

1360
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: to her as my girlfriend. I'm getting better at fiance.

1361
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: We're getting used to it were a few months into that,

1362
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: see my Like, I think that girlfriend and fiance are

1363
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: way more aligned than fiance and wife. So maybe it's

1364
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: just personal preference or like the way that we think

1365
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: of marriage, because I was like, all about official, official, official, official,

1366
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Like with Jared, I would like, I need to make

1367
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: sure that that marriage certificate was like signed in scent

1368
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: and all of that. The day that we got married,

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I wanted to be official before

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: I call you husband, Like I don't want to just

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: have the ceremony, And I was like, I want it

1372
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: in in spirituality sense and in we goes sense. Until

1373
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:10,440
Speaker 1: I say this, man, I don't know. Well, it's definitely

1374
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: a headline interesting to read. Well, another headline on the

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 1: final headline when we are all celebrating, uh, Emily Ferguson,

1376
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: who you know from the twenty season of The Bachelor

1377
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 1: with their on there with their sister Haley Um Bachelor's

1378
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: star Emily Ferguson engaged to William Carlson. The quote is

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: I get to marry the man of my dreams. As

1380
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: according to people, this was so exciting, so very funny

1381
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: story on my I Don't get a podcast. This week

1382
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: we had Emily come on. We were talking a little Bachelor.

1383
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: But you know, my other podcast is called I Don't

1384
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: Get It, So you come with an I don't get

1385
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: it in mind before we talk about whatever topic you're

1386
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: going to talk about. And she said, my biggest I

1387
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: don't get it is why will hasn't proposed to me.

1388
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: It just makes no sense. We've been together for three years. Lull.

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, in her classic Emily fashion, just

1390
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: venting so honestly and hilariously about how he had yet

1391
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: to pop the question. She's like, I think Haley might

1392
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: get engaged before me. I'm like, so over, it's exhausting waiting.

1393
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 1: And then I pull up my Instagram a couple of

1394
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 1: days ago and I see that ring on her finger

1395
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: and like that very engaging looking posts and I was like,

1396
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: no way, that's so awesome, that's so so awesome. So yes,

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01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: they got engaged on Sunday. Uh. You know, he's a

1398
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: professional hockey player. He plays for the Vegas Nights. They've

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: been together for three years and you can see the

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01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: video on her Instagram. The way he did it was

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: so funny because we all know that Emily and Haley

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01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: like love to be done up, their hair done, their

1403
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: makeup done like a cute outfit that you know, that's

1404
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: just them. They don't really show themselves off like without

1405
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: being really done up. And he decided to propose to

1406
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: her when they were on a hike. She was wearing

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01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: a sweatshirt, sweatpants, she had her hair in a bun.

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: She had just gotten a fresh spray tan, so she

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: may have been like a little bit orange. And she

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: says in the video, she goes, are you you're doing

1411
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: this now? Like? Why are you doing this now? It

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: was so on brand for her. I loved it. It

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01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 1: was great. Well, hey, we'll celebrate Emily uh and William

1414
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 1: her fiance. What a thing to have. Love exists everywhere. Well, hey,

1415
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: Tasha's story of love is going to continue, obviously, next

1416
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: week with the Fantasy Sweets. Will be here to break

1417
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: down the Fantasy Sweets episode. It's going to be one

1418
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: that is very tolling to I imagine these guys are

1419
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: so in love. It's so in love, so emotional, so real,

1420
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: so authentic. What a great season so far. We'll be

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: back next week with the Almost Famous podcast. Thanks for

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:04,080
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