WEBVTT - Are You Drinking Too Much? A Wake Up Call for Women 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.720 Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.600 Red tabletop podcast, all your favorite episodes from the Facebook 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:10.440 Watch show in audio, produced by Westbrook Audio and I 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.800 Heart Radio. Please don't forget to rate and review on 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:18.520 Apple Podcasts. Attention ladies. For the first time in history, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.279 women are drinking as much as men. Ask yourself a 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:27.440 serious question, are you drinking too much? I was going 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.240 for that third bottle of wine. I said, you've got 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:37.320 a problem. Alcohol is being glamorized Wine Wednesdays, girlified, bottomless 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.320 mimosas sold as a lifeline to sanity, wine glasses that 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.599 say wine is cheaper than therapy. It's a normalization of 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.640 heavy drinking. How much is too much? I could down 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.040 a bottle in like an hour and a half. These 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.200 are the new faces of alcoholism, and they're not who 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.440 you'd expect. The teacher of the Year, a New York attorney, 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.280 a corporate vice president. So us the four questions that 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.640 could save your life. That's my kryptonite. I cannot be 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.240 around vodka. It's a Red Table wake up call. The 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:13.560 real livers coming in. Those are real livers. One of 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.959 the reasons why this particular show was really important to 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.440 me is because wine for me was like kool aid, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.880 because like I was a you know, a brown liquor drinker, voka, 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.880 Like I was a hard liquor drinker, Like I could 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:37.720 drink almost anybody under the table. Damn yeah, Will specifically. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:42.840 Now Will is a lightweight, but I mean I used 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.199 to be a hard one to keep up with. When 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.080 I moved to red wine, I considered myself like, oh, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.280 this is better. This is better for me, because they 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.600 say the red wine is good for you, you know. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.160 But drinking red wine for me was like drinking glasses 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.800 of water. It wasn't even like so I not drinking it, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:07.160 like you're like, I'm like goo, Google, alright, where's the next? 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.920 Because I'm used to that hard hit. I was drinking 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.160 hard in high school too, And when I got out here, 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:20.359 I was doing cocktails. So ecstasy, alcohol, weed, WHOA, what 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.280 a combination. You were having a good old time. Let 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:24.880 me tell you. I was having me a little bit. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.240 I was like, this is not cocaine, this is not heroin. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.080 I wasn't doing things that I thought was addictive, but 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.600 I would do those three together. That was my cocktail. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.520 Your threshold becomes so high that what it takes for 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.040 you to to get to the place you need to 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.480 get to. It'll take me two bottles to get to Okay, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.520 If I do ecstasy, weed and alcohol at the same time, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.800 I'm gonna get there faster and I can keep the 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.000 high going because then I can just keep drinking because 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.359 I know ecstasy is gonna last me about three, four 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.519 or five hours. The weed, you know, that's just gonna 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.680 keep me just smooth, and then the alcohol is gonna 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.519 keep it going like I could just keep taking drink, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:11.840 drink drink. Yeah, oh my god, I'm not like that 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:17.080 sounds intense. Listen, that sounds like I would everybody. No, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:22.560 you know what that stressing under a recovery and my 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:27.600 family that it's not accepting on the fact that addiction run. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:32.320 But I get it, literally, I got it quick. Like 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.960 once I I was going for that third bottle of wine, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.800 I said, you've got a problem. And it was cold 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.880 turkey that day that day, that day, I just stopped. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.880 Wow and never since. No. I mean I had, like 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.000 I've had a glass of wine here and there, but 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:57.080 I cannot touch rock. I cannot touch drum drums. Another one. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.320 No dark liquor I'm never forgets. In New Orleans with Will, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.600 they had these lavender vodka drinks. I'm like, I haven't 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:10.880 had vodka in years. Let me tell you, I had 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.240 that lavender voca drink. I had one, I had a 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.880 second one, and I was craving for a third one. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.960 I haven't stopped thinking about that drink till this day. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.880 Stopped thinking about that drink till this day. But that's 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.560 when I realized. I was like, Jada, you can't play 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:34.680 no games. And when I see vodka, even when I 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.240 opened up the refrigerator and they have those vodka spritzers 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.440 in there and I look at it, that grapefruit vodka combination, 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.960 I'd be like, and let me tell you the kind 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.080 of discipline I have to put in because just because 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.719 I have a problem with vodka, I can't tell you 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.240 can't have vock in the house. I'm not doing all that. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:57.200 But I think also I'm a binger. Yeah, I'm a binger. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.880 Your grandmother was when it's time to nal grandmother was 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.599 we're gonna go right. So I wasn't the type of 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.320 person that was drinking every day, you know. I was 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.240 like a weekend party girl, totally you know what I mean. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.280 So it was like, yo, Thursday to Monday morning. Yeah, 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:19.400 Thursday to Monday morning. I would go like just but 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.000 it never got to the point where it interfered with 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.040 your being able to go to work. Did you ever? 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.840 There was one incident. I had one incident that was 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.120 an eye opening incident for me as well. I had 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.640 one incident or nutting, Professor, I passed out when you 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.280 told me that's the makeup trailer, That's what I never 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.160 told me that that passed out. I went to work 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:46.520 high and it was a bad batch of ecstasy. Lord 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.200 had mercy, and I passed out, and I told everybody 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.480 that I had taken I must have had old medication 0:05:54.600 --> 0:06:02.840 in a vitamin bottle. Think, oh my god, But I 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.520 tell you what I did, though, got my ass together 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.839 and got on that set. That was the last time, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.159 like I take heed. I would never do something like 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.360 That's why I was on you always. I stay on 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.599 because Jaden and Trey, because I grew up with my 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.279 mother who was a heroin attic. And still it didn't 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.640 sink into me that any mind altering substance. I don't 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.880 care what it is. All y'all young people talking about 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:33.039 weed is from the earth, and I like this. It's 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.680 a gate. You know, it's a year, all of this 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:42.640 from the damn every year. You know, I know my 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.320 body and it's taken me a long time to understand 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.800 what works best for me. But it's imperative for me 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.000 to stop smoking every year for at least two months. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.839 This is my fourth year doing it now, I know. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.960 But I think the day that you decided to do 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.680 it all together will be a very be day for me. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:07.920 I think they'll see something's different it is. I think 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.760 that's awesome. You know, now I get it. You know, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.760 everybody has their journey. I'm grateful that that's all you 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.400 dealing with because when I was your age, I was 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.600 doing alcohol. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm trying 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.120 to I mean, I'm like you was much worse than me. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.120 It can get really messed up. I would always want 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.960 like if you guys saw something in me that was like, oh, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.160 that's a downward spiral that is going to catch her 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.440 real quick. That's why you have to trust the eyes 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.480 around you because you won't know. And that was the 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.640 thing with me. Don't think that people didn't try to 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.000 tap me on my shoulder. Don't think that when I 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.160 was at Debbie Allen throwing up all over her house 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.160 that she wasn't like, Hey, I had to reach my 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.400 rock bottoms. I wish I could have been a fly 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:59.240 on the wall to just see how crazy I wish 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.600 I could have too. So I'm gonna yank to as well. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.480 Oh my god, I think back on my life. I'm like, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:11.080 I'm a walking miracle. You are no doubt about it. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.320 You are a walking miracle. People would not believe this 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.800 one is too. Yeah, I guess I'm just kind of 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:21.080 a little funny duddy on the side. Thank you God. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.400 Right now, we have doctor Jessica Mellinger, and she is 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.840 a liver disease specialist at the University of Michigan who 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.200 has witnessed shocking trends over the past year. Thanks for 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.800 talking about this topic. It's a good one. Yeah, tell 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.000 us what you've been seeing. We've been seeing astronomical increases 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.840 in hospital days for young women with alcohol related liver disease, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.560 something we previously kind of thought happened mostly just in 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.400 middle aged men. So just really really surprising. Wow, more 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.640 women are drinking more heavily, women are starting drink like men, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.120 you know, and so they're starting to get liver disease. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.800 Have you been able to identify when this uptick is 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.920 that really happening in a woman's life in the forties 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.000 and fifties is still kind of the biggest chunk of 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.440 people that we see with this, but the rates of 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.320 women in their twenties and thirties and early forties are 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.360 starting to really catch up with that. Wow, I've seen 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.400 a lot more of my peers, specifically during the pandemic 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.760 um drinking a lot more. What we do find is 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.839 that a large percentage of the population of young people 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.320 eighteen nine year olds almost one and four are reporting 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.720 that they had an alcohol use disorder in the last year. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.880 That's that most severe form of addiction, right, That's not 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.600 just I misused alcohol once in a while, and that 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.000 younger age group, we're just seeing those numbers go up 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.480 and up and up. I've definitely seen friends and family 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:46.640 members become excessive drinkers over the pandemic, and it's really 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.200 hard to talk to people about it because I think 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.920 that women are targeted in a certain way in the 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:57.240 marketing of how you know, like wine Wednesdays and it's 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.760 been difficult to even talk to people that have had 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.280 tesseive drinking issues. I think you're absolutely correct that that's 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.200 exactly what's happening, is that we have a culture that 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.720 is really kind of promoting drinking as just what you 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.959 do to, you know, end your day to cope with problems. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.080 When I walk through hospital gift shops, there's alcohol paraphernalia. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.480 There's wine glasses, there's shot glasses, wine purses, if you 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.480 can believe this, you know, a purse that you has 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.120 a little spigot on it that you can you know, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.199 put wine in and hide it. And I think it's 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.760 kind of a normalization of heavy drinking, and it's a 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.199 normalization of using alcohol in a way that is kind 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.000 of a coping mechanism. Yeah, Like it's okay to drink 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.280 alcohol when you're depressed or board or feeling lonely. That's 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.480 the thing to do. Yeah. And I've seen it when 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.079 you know, shopping out in the stores. You know the 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.760 wine glasses that say wine is cheaper than therapy. You know, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.400 there's this, yeah, this normalization of it, this normalization and 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.800 glamorization of it. You know, you watch TV. You see 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.160 women relaxing with big glasses of wine. And we're not 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.160 talking about little glasses. Yeah, big glasses. What are some 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.400 of the signs of the liver disease. The signs can 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.120 be pretty dramatic. And I was able to arrange to 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.880 have a couple of livers brought in for you guys 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:15.120 to look at. Oh oh oh oh, those are real 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.960 livers coming in. Those are real livers. Okay, okay, those 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.920 are really well, you know games, she's a nurse and 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.120 so I want to see this. Well, we're gonna see 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.680 it because here we are. Okay, so that's a normal liver. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:36.240 Oh that's really bad. You can see the normal livers, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.920 nice and smooth, and the liver that serotic looks really lumpy, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.760 kind of bumpy, shrunken, And that's scar tissue. That's scar 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.800 tissue that's kind of marbled all through that liver. What's 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.480 happening is just like if you get a cut on 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.800 your hand and it gets red and then you have 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.120 a scar. The alcohol is irritating your liver. And when 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.760 people do get liver disease symptoms, it could be you know, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.720 your eyes turning yellow, your skin turning yellow, your belly 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.600 kind of swelling up with fluid, people will bleed heavily. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.520 They'll help you vomiting blood, getting confused. Prior to that, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.240 you might just feel kind of maybe nauseated, not want 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.600 to eat as much, you just kind of don't feel good. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.880 So they can be pretty vague symptoms that don't necessarily 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.640 cue you into the fact that you've got to developing 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.920 liver disease problem. That's really really scary to look at. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.760 It's going to be straightforward, but that gives your reality. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.520 Is like, once you can see something like that, hopefully 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.040 people will be like, I don't want my liver to 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.360 look like that. You don't get advanced alcohol related liver 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.520 disease overnight. It takes years to get So if you're 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.560 getting serosis in your late twenties, thirties, even forties, you 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.280 started drinking really earlier. Yeah, we have to always remember too, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.480 that there's really two diseases going on here. There's an 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.080 alcohol use disorder and there's a liver disease, and we 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.400 don't want to forget about the first one right now. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.200 Let me ask you, because you're using alcohol use disorder 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.760 instead of just saying alcoholism, why is that we've moved 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.839 a from using terms like alcoholism or addiction because people 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.760 have told us that they feel stigmatized by it. Not 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.120 everybody is willing to admit right off the bat that 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.800 they have an addiction. So what I tell my patients is, 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.440 you know, I don't care what term you use to 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.840 describe yourself, just recognizing the reality of what's going on, 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.439 and I just try to stick with the terminology my 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.920 patients are comfortable with. If they want to use alcoholism 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.959 or addiction, then I'll use that when I speak with them, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.200 and if they don't, we don't. And so that there's 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.520 a self assessment quiz for people to know if they're 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.440 drinking too much. Yeah, they go by the term the 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.320 cage questions. The first is do you feel like you 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.280 need to cut back? Um? And this is often kind 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.480 of that first sign. This is what I get asked 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.760 a lot by people. How do I know I'm drinking 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.280 too much? And well, if you feel like you might be, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.280 that's probably a good sign that that you should really 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.840 think about cutting back or stopping altogether. Do you get 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.200 annoyed by people who talk to you about cutting back? 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.840 Do you feel guilty about your drinking? And then do 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.400 you need an eye opener. When you get up in 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.719 the morning answering any one of those, you could be 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.400 a sign that you've got an alcohol use problem. So 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.600 let me ask you a question. If I have a 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.760 friend who feels as though drinking a bottle of wine 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:17.040 by herself is okay, is that okay? I think the 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.520 straight answer is no. I'd say that's a problem. And 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.560 I think it speaks to something that many of us 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.680 are unaware of. What is a drink? What is one thing? 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.720 What one standard unit of alcohol and one drink would 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.920 be a shot? One shot like one and a half 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.680 ounces of hard liquor like vodka or DRISKI, one can 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.000 of beer. A standard twelve ounce can of beer is 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.120 one drink four or to five ounces of wine. So 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.800 there's about five glasses of wine per bottle, roughly, and 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.760 many people are having much more than that. I had 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.960 a patient who said she was only having three drinks 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.920 a day. She wasn't certain why, she, you know, had 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.400 liver disease. Come to find out that she was actually 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.960 pouring about six shots worth of um of alcohol into 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.800 each drink, and so she was actually having eighteen drinks 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.320 at night. And if you're a woman and you don't 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.320 have liver disease. This is for people who don't have 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.840 alcohol use disorder or liver disease or an alcohol medical issue. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.800 Anything over one drink a day is really too much. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.920 That's important for people to know what those recommendations are. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.080 Having more than one drink a day is too much 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.680 without liver disease. For someone without liver disease, if you 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.920 have liver disease, you shouldn't drink at all. But if 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.080 you don't have liver disease, you should only be having one. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.680 Wondering and there's some data to suggest that even one 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.160 drink might be too much, so, but right now, the 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.520 National Institute of Health recommendations are one drink a day 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.920 for women to for men. And I hear a lot 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.760 in my clinic people who are surprised that they have 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:47.280 alcohol related liver disease, particularly young women who don't think 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.520 that they were drinking that much. They were just drinking 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.480 wine with their friends and not realizing that they're getting 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.360 through a bottle of night. That's a lot. I had 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.560 to clutch my purl on the inside a little bit 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:03.120 around I mean history, thinking about my history, you know, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.400 just that one drink because I mean I was a 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.480 drink a bottle, real fast drinker. What do you think 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.960 on one hour, I could down a bottle and maybe 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.440 like an hour and a half to oh my god, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.640 one glass after another, one glass after another. Because you're 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.520 just they're watching TV drinking gee gee, and you're not. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.200 And I'm thinking, is red wine? It's chilled? So I'm like, 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:32.280 why I need to keep my limits. That's not years ago. 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.800 Jade is twenty two, So it's been twenty two years 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.120 for me. So very good. Yes, Like the doctor is 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:43.360 shocked at right now. She's like, so, what's the latest 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.400 on red wine being healthy? So if you have any 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.960 liver disease at all, we recommend no drinking. Right. There 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.560 has been some suggestion that red wine may have some 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.280 cardiovascular benefits, and the data is kind of up and 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.520 down on that, just depending upon which study you look 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.960 at from a liver standpoint. By being a liver dog, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.360 I think certainly if you have any amount of liver disease, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.080 even red wine is really going to be damaging to you. Wow, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.119 this has been a very informative problems. I really didn't know, right, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.399 everybody talking about how red wine, you know, if you 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.800 have a glass of red wine a day that that's 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.520 healthy for you. I think it's really important to just 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.960 be aware of my craving. This am I going after 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.840 it for you know, relaxation purposes, to get to sleep 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.720 at night all the time, because that's really when I 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.320 see a lot of my patients find that it sort 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.959 of gets out of hand. Right. Well, thank you for 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.560 thank you for coming in school and the day you 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.680 gave me some information I was not aware of at all. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.280 Thank you. Next up. Mother of three, Annie Grace was 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.880 a rising star in the marketing world until happy hour 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:48.879 turned into two bottles of wine a night. Poised, driven 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.320 and ambitious, Annie Grace was just twenty six when named 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:57.320 vice president of a multinational company. She never imagined her 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.400 after hours work drinks would nearly cost her everything. I'm 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:08.280 so terrified, any please rescue yourself and he found her 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.720 purpose after hitting rock bottom. Here for how she created 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.280 This Naked Mind, a program that has empowered millions to 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:20.840 change their relationship with alcohol. I was global head of 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.720 marketing for a company headquartered in London, in charge of 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.080 twenty countries flying all over the world. You know, international 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.280 trips where the booze was just flowing and drinking two 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.719 bottles of wine every single night. When was the moment 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.560 that made you go, WHOA, something's really wrong here. There 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.479 was this one time I asked my four year old 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.400 to come sit on my lap and he said, no, Mom, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.800 you smell bad in your teeth are purple. And it 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.680 was just like, what is happening? Like how can I 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.359 be showing up for my kids like this? And it 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.720 was these little moments. I was coming back from a 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.480 super boosy work trip. I've been up till three in 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.480 the morning the night before. I went down into the 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.000 hotel are and said, oh gosh, I just need something. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.280 She said, I can give you a screwdriver, which is 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.960 one of those little lines. If I don't drink hard 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.440 alcohol first thing in the morning, then I'm still okay. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.800 I'm still not over the line. I'm I'm still not 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.359 It's still not a problem. And so I said, oh, 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.800 but I'm really in pain. And I had this headache, 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:18.919 and I said, I just have to get home to 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.000 my kids, and so I ordered one and I had 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.399 two or three, and I got to ether airport and 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.560 I'm sitting in the airport and I'm just in tears 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.760 and I'm writing in my journal and I remember writing 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.480 the words, am I an alcoholic? And just really for 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.560 the first time seeing that kind of in black and white. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.840 The thing was, at that point my journey, I had 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.160 been trying to cut back. I had done all sorts 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.639 of things. I said, you know, no drinking till the 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.440 weekend for just one glass. I had all of these 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:53.160 rules and everyone I would break and I stopped being 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.160 able to really look at myself in the mirror. Yeah, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.679 and I'm thinking, why can't I do this for my kids? 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.760 You know, I'm smart, I'm together, I have it in 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:04.639 control in all other parts of my life, but this 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.960 one thing, like it has got me, and why I 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.720 can't I do this one thing? And so I'm sitting 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.520 there and I'm asking the question that I've been asking 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.440 for years now is what is my problem? What's wrong 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.600 with me? And I had this moment that I can 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.960 only describe as like some divine moment where I said, 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:31.400 nothing's wrong with you. Find out why? Find out much changed? 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.960 Oh wow, that's a good one. And so I made 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.159 myself too promises. I said, you know, I'm going to 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.800 stop trying to stop drinking. I'm gonna let myself off 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.520 the hook. I'm going to give myself some self compassion 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.399 because this roller coaster of shame and blame and trying 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.800 these rules and breaking these rules, it was losing my soul. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.679 I was losing touch with myself. I did not trust 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.760 myself anymore. And I said, you know what, you've been 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:57.920 doing the best you can with these tools you have. 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:03.359 Give yourself passion. Take a year and find out why. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:05.880 And so I went on this journey and I wrote 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.359 down every single reason I drink. And I just started 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:12.080 learning that all those reasons I was drinking, alcohol relaxes 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.560 even THO it doesn't release his cortisol, a stress hormone. Wow, 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:21.639 it does in adrenaline. That's crazy. Alcohol makes things more fun. No, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.560 it doesn't. It actually numbs your ability to feel pleasure, 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.199 so that you think nothing's fun without alcohol because of 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:32.040 all the past alcohol you've been drinking like neurochemically, that's 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:33.760 what happens in the brain. And so I look at 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:35.479 this and I'm about a year later, I walk out 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.760 of my office. I tell my husband, if you want 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.760 to drink with me again, tonight's last night because I'm 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.520 done after this. He looks at me, He's like there 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.880 was no trust there, so he didn't believe me. But 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:50.880 sure enough I really was done. You recorded um yourself 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.720 doing one of your worst moments, a few minutes of 0:21:54.760 --> 0:22:15.600 boost and relax. I'm so much the hip addictions. Yeah. Wow. 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.080 You know a lot of people have those moments that 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.320 I always hear people share about calling out to God 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:27.919 in their final moments of recognizing that addiction has taken 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.080 over and there's nothing that they can do. Yeah. I 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.160 don't remember making those videos. I have lots of them. 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:39.159 I was yeah, just wow. So any you have a 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:43.080 whole program called This Naked Mind. This Naked Mind just 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.480 started as my own journey. I realized I wanted my 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.480