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Speaker 1: My friend wants to steal my not girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: What should I do?

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Speaker 3: And this is okay op where we read the craziest

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Speaker 3: true stories on Earth.

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Speaker 1: I'm John and Sam. What should hope you do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not your girlfriend, then it can't

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Speaker 2: be stolen. So I'm gonna say nothing. But no, but

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Speaker 2: I want her, But I wonder, well, too bad, you better.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to commit to anything. Yeah, dad, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like it sounds like a situation, a situation ship

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Speaker 2: and a lack of being able to commit.

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Speaker 3: Come on, now, Ope, step your game up, step up.

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Speaker 3: If you don't want that to happen. Well, you know

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Speaker 3: there's an option.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta go steady, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Gotta give her a pin like they did in nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're going to steady with a girl,

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Speaker 2: you gave her a pin. Now that is a throwback,

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Speaker 2: big throwback. But you know throwback.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. So this one, I.

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Speaker 2: Just I was thinking of Riley nicknames.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now I can't. I was like, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm missing something here. That's amazing. Well,

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Speaker 3: speaking of throwback, this one comes from it's a throw

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Speaker 3: away nine four seven four, they say, my twenty mail

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Speaker 3: friend twenty two male wants me to step aside so

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Speaker 3: he can try to date my not girlfriend eighteen female. Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's get into the long version of the story. A

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Speaker 3: little over three years ago, I had just gotten out

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Speaker 3: I broke up with her shortly before I graduated high

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Speaker 3: school and wanted to take some time to focus on myself.

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Speaker 3: Of course, a few weeks after the breakup, I meet

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Speaker 3: the most gorgeous girl I have ever met.

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Speaker 2: Dang, that's how happened.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, that's how it happens sometimes, and we really hit

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Speaker 3: it off. I'll refer to her as Lisa. She had

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Speaker 3: also gotten out of an abusive relationship, so neither of

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Speaker 3: us were looking for anything serious. At the time, my

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Speaker 3: driver's license was suspended. Oh that's not good. Too much speeding,

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Speaker 3: bad time in my life. Learned my lesson.

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Speaker 2: I have a little.

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Speaker 3: Okay, story time speaking of stier's licenses and speeding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of unrelated, but related to driving and speed.

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Speaker 2: God's driver's license is definitely not expired. Wow, why didn't

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Speaker 2: wait to dos me? Hold on definitely not. Oh god,

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Speaker 2: it is there, we go. We'll stick with that.

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Speaker 3: So my friend, I'll call him Ken, would offer to

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Speaker 3: drive me to see her. Put ice you in the comments,

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Speaker 3: if you see what's about to.

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Speaker 2: Go down, drive me to see her.

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Speaker 3: My buddy, my my, my boy would drive me and

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Speaker 3: he would always you know, take me to He would

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Speaker 3: always offer.

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Speaker 1: Kind of strange, right, you know, he's like always offering.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't necessarily see it as sus yet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe with hindsight it's a red flag

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Speaker 2: right now, I'm putting an ICU in the comment. It

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Speaker 2: would be a red flag if he didn have to

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Speaker 2: use like Apple Maps the first time or someone Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know. I don't exactly where it is.

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Speaker 3: So for a few months, we would just mostly all

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Speaker 3: and she and I would mostly just cuddle up if

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Speaker 3: we were all watching a movie. Sometimes we'd sneak off

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Speaker 3: for a few minutes to make out a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but not too long because we didn't want to be

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Speaker 3: rude to Ken. Lisa and Ken developed their own friendship

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Speaker 3: during this time, but it was obviously Britonic on both ends,

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Speaker 3: older brother slash younger sister dynamic.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I hope he is entering a world of hurt.

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Speaker 2: No dishwashers, get him out of here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, no washing machine, sorry washing, Okay, don't get stuck.

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Speaker 2: We know John's categories.

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Speaker 1: Don't shoot the messenger, all right, I'm just reporting on.

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Speaker 2: I just called him again. I must be gone for

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Speaker 2: a while. Boys.

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Speaker 3: Golly, we are just throwing shots at each other today.

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Speaker 2: I love it though. This is great.

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Speaker 3: Ken, Here we go, big important piece of information here.

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Speaker 3: Ken also had a girlfriend of four years at the time,

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Speaker 3: but they were just hanging by a threat.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 3: After six months, I got my license back and I'd

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Speaker 3: At that point, Lisa and I started doing the dirty deed. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we both liked each other.

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Speaker 2: What'd you say? Word real?

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Speaker 1: We both really liked each other.

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Speaker 3: But I panicked and sort of ghosted her for a

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Speaker 2: Not a classic move to go with someone for four weeks. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not a classy at all. Yeah, how long I have

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Speaker 2: been seeing each other? Like other friends too? Six months?

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Speaker 2: Over six months? Not a shitty that's pretty shitty.

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Speaker 3: Lisa and Ken continue talking, and he said that he

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Speaker 3: wasn't going to stop being friends with her because I

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Speaker 3: was being an idiot. Fair enough, I realized I was

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Speaker 1: We immediately picked right back up where we left off.

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Speaker 3: Around this time, Ken and his girlfriend broke up, so

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Speaker 2: Moved in with Ken. Okay, so to go where Ken

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Speaker 1: Yes, and coming off of like op being an.

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Speaker 2: A hole and yeah, ghost exactly.

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Speaker 3: I would go to see Lisa a few times a week,

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Speaker 2: Oh so they're still on good terms even they got

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Speaker 3: That continued for several more months until she ghosted me

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Speaker 2: I mean, karma, the plot is thinking thing, y'all.

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Speaker 3: She told Ken she was afraid I would bail again

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Speaker 3: and she didn't want to go through that pain again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so do it to him?

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Speaker 1: Karma, ladies and gentlemen, what goes around comes around.

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Speaker 3: We worked it out, but embarrassingly, this cycle has repeated

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Speaker 3: once or twice more, not in over a year, though.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not the healthiest of relationship. I mean, say,

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Speaker 3: So they've been in a situationship like on and off

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Speaker 2: For a year. I feel like both of them think

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Speaker 2: what I just didn't see that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just see what you're saying now that like

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Speaker 2: Though, I see, that's what That's what it seems like,

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Speaker 3: Other not yeah, which, in fairness, it does seem kind

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Speaker 2: Park, which I guess is better than it being a

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Speaker 2: one sideide situationship. Yeah. Yeah, well fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Over the last year, especially mostly since she turned eighteen,

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Speaker 3: I've noticed that Ken has also started acting differently around Lisa.

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Speaker 3: He'll flirt with her in front of me. She's very

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Speaker 3: friendly with him, but she does not flirt back and

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Speaker 3: pulls away when he touches her. I told him that

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Speaker 3: I don't like it, but he said it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: if he flirts with her. She loves me. Oh okay,

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Speaker 3: well she loves Ken. Ken is like, Bro, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter if I flirt with her. She's clearly in love

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Speaker 2: What Bro? And also if she's uncomfortable, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: She's uncomfortable, that's all you, freaking, that's all you. That

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Speaker 2: do better. God, he just lost my place and he

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Speaker 2: will find it again, Like right now.

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Speaker 3: She says that she doesn't feel that way about Ken

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Speaker 3: at all, and everything indicates that that's the truth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if she says it.

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Speaker 2: And she literally pulls away from his touch on hell,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. Ken has also started

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Speaker 2: Oh God.

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Speaker 3: And the other night Lisa was not there. He started

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Speaker 3: whining about life not being fair. I took the bait

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Speaker 3: and asked what was wrong, and he started rambling about

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Speaker 3: how Lisa is too good for me and I don't

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Speaker 1: I agree, but it still pissed me off.

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Speaker 2: Oh, He's like, yeah, I'm a piece of crap. You

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Speaker 3: He then told me he is in love with Yeah

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Speaker 3: for either of them at all, I would step aside

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Speaker 3: so he could pursue.

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Speaker 2: But Lisa is obviously not interesting.

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Speaker 3: She's literally told you stop stop. Did Lisa literally say

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Speaker 3: not interested in that. Like, but she didn't say it

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Speaker 1: Where was that line?

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Speaker 3: She says she doesn't feel that way about Ken at all,

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Speaker 2: That that's the true, So she's sang it to OPI.

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Speaker 3: It's possible it could have been to both, but at

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Speaker 3: even if it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: True, maybe we can take note.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think she is not all feeling it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to argue with him while he was drunk,

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Speaker 3: so I just went to bed. I confronted him in

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Speaker 3: the morning, and he doubled down. He said that I

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Speaker 3: She is not my girlfriend. She is quote unquote fair

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Speaker 3: game to try to date. Am I wrong for thinking

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Speaker 3: this is messed up? Lisa and I do have an

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Speaker 3: unconventional relationship.

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Speaker 2: I'll admit that is correct.

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Speaker 3: We don't refer to each other as boyfriend's last girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: but we don't sleep with other people. We tell each

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Speaker 3: other we love each other.

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Speaker 2: Mmm.

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Speaker 3: She usually stays at my place and we have a

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Speaker 3: good relationship with each other's families.

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Speaker 2: Bro, I think this is a classic case of a

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Speaker 2: situationship just going super far. It's it's too they like

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Speaker 2: they like each other enough, but they both think they

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Speaker 2: can do better. I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: We need to Yeah, we need to. This is too much.

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Speaker 3: I think we're pretty happy together. Question Mark. I know

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Speaker 3: she doesn't want to be with him, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: worried about that. But since Ken said those things, I

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Speaker 3: can't help but question if I'm being unfair to Lisa

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Speaker 3: by holding her back by.

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Speaker 2: Being with me. Okay, this is one to dissect. I

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Speaker 2: want to know what y'all think. Do you think OPI

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Speaker 2: is exhibiting any a holish behavior? Yeah? I would love

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Speaker 2: They're basically each other like dude, Like if Riley and

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Speaker 3: And I can help you if you're uncomfortable, because I

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Speaker 2: I feel like at this point she should tell Ken

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Speaker 3: To Yeah, and totally fair to ask for Opie's help

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Speaker 3: if that's kind of especially if he's been like making

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Speaker 3: OPI on telling Ken Lisa isn't interested. This morning, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you? But it might need to come from

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Speaker 3: He said he wouldn't believe it until he hears her

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Speaker 3: push away, and pull back.

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Speaker 2: Read the signs, Read the signs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get there's some gray area like is there

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And also like your friend already has some sort

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Speaker 3: Honestly, might have to buy this hat for him, Not

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Speaker 2: More and more and more. Yeah, it almost feels like

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's like also developing a drinking problem at this

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Speaker 2: goes deep some abuse.

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Speaker 1: Mental health issues.

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Speaker 3: I unfortunately, I think it's gonna kind of unravel deeper.

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Speaker 2: Hair let us know if you think so too. But

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Speaker 2: let's get into this update. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Back to reality and to the update.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to thank everyone that took the time to

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Speaker 3: interested in the outcome. I have been staying with Lisa

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Speaker 3: for about a week now since the initial confrontation with Ken,

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Speaker 1: She wanted to make things more official.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, she ended up making things even easier for

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Speaker 3: Or she like, let's make it official. Yeah, maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: But also still like it's just not a good look

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I jumped on that opportunity and asked if I

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Speaker 1: Which does that mean they are or does that mean

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like you forget You should

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Speaker 2: just be like, do you want to be my girlfriend? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Like, guys, let's we've had over your beating around the bush.

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Speaker 3: Let's come on, come on, let's be a little let's

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Speaker 3: to look at a few apartments this week. Wow, since

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Speaker 1: Want to move in wow together.

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Speaker 2: Wow. This is like Ken's worst nightmare. Like, have literally

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Speaker 1: Bro Ken's village and ordin story is about to go off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're about to hit the gym heavily.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, Andrew Tate. Ken and I have.

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Speaker 3: Had a few brief discussions after he told me he

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Speaker 3: I also told him that she is officially my girlfriend now,

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Speaker 2: But I think Ken's going to freak out Riley. Oh

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Speaker 2: he's a is he locking down a situation? I saw

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Speaker 2: I saw a text from Party City Taylor earlier.

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Speaker 3: Sam is the serial docsor like, bro, you take a

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Speaker 3: tip from these reddit.

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Speaker 2: Readers and just some fake names once in a while.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're talking governments over here, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think Kid's not gonna take a will and is

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Speaker 3: like you said, it's as well as not Mary, Like,

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Speaker 2: I just dang. I was actually texting my brother about

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Speaker 3: So not only is he like committing moving with Lisa,

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Speaker 2: If the lease is up, then it's fine.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, but still a hassle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which it doesn't matter, like it is what it is,

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Speaker 2: But like it's kind of a it could be seen

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Speaker 3: Mean, what are the chances of like op was paying

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Speaker 3: Probably low, non existent. Well onto uh Ken's response, he

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Speaker 3: She initially agreed to meet with him on Sunday, with

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00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 3: the plan being that they would meet at her house

441
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 3: she lives with her mom and stepdad, but he rejected that,

442
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,919
Speaker 3: saying he wanted to meet at the apartment without me.

443
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 2: That's kind of sketchy.

444
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no.

445
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: You to me, like me in a park or like

446
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, get a college.

447
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 1: Like to me, it's like, like.

448
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to say like Ken is planning on

449
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 2: doing anything crazy? Yeah, but it just doesn't feel like

450
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,640
Speaker 2: he's stable right now. No, not at all.

451
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 3: She told him she wasn't comfortable with that if he

452
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 3: wanted to meet up without me or her parents there,

453
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 3: they had at least to be somewhere in public. He

454
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 3: got pissed that his threatening behavior made her feel threatened

455
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 3: and went on a tirade and called her every name

456
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: in the.

457
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: Book, which is not a good look if you're trying

458
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,719
Speaker 2: to meet up with someone.

459
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 3: She told him she wasn't going to see him again

460
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 3: at all and blocked his number, and I'm about a

461
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 3: text or two away from blocking him as well.

462
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 2: Are they still living together?

463
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we can assume, but I'm not sure.

464
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

465
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: Hopefully he'll just move on and we won't come to

466
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 3: that again. Thank you to the posters who helped me

467
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 3: navigate this situation, and we do actually have a pretty

468
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 3: good amount of comments relevant comments here.

469
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Speaker 2: So, dude, sounds like a total creep man.

470
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sorry, I think he's like something bad would happen,

471
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: he said, does not owe him that? I'm sorry, No,

472
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: she does not in the slightest. Yeah, she should put

473
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 3: her safety first as she did as she but a

474
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Speaker 3: few quick relevant comments Shaffa bug eight nine eight. Dude,

475
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: this guy's a creep and sounds like he wanted to

476
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: do something bad to Lisa because they were wanting to

477
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: be alone, just to be honest cut him out of

478
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Speaker 3: your life.

479
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: And honestly, there was a ton of red flags before,

480
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 2: like kept getting rider exactly. Op. I agree.

481
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 3: I understand him not wanting me to be in the

482
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Speaker 3: room or getting his heartbroken in the middle of Starbucks

483
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: or something, but him rejecting her parents house when they've

484
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: always been friendly with him was a big red flag

485
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: for us again, travel Bug eight nine eight. I think

486
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: you need to drop this friend at this point. He

487
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 3: obviously isn't as good of a guy as you thought

488
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: he was. Choose your girlfriend, not the guy that seems

489
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 3: like what he wants to assault her.

490
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: Ope.

491
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: I don't even think I'm going back to the apartment

492
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 3: to get to the rest of my stuff. I hope

493
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: he's able to get his life together, but I can't

494
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: help him at this point. If he does try to

495
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: contact her again, then she's going to try to get

496
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: a restraining order. I've also told mutual friends what is happening,

497
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: and that he can't know where our new apartment will

498
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: be under any circumstances.

499
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: Final comment of the story.

500
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 3: So my stuff is out now thanks to two friends

501
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 3: who are also friends of Ken. With the two of

502
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 3: these friends, friend number one tried ahead of time to

503
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: convince Ken to leave so we could get everything out

504
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: without him, but it was not happening. Ken said that

505
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: he wanted to make sure I didn't mess with his stuff,

506
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: which is ironic since he tried messing with my relationship.

507
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: Friend one then offered to act as a buffer so

508
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: Friend two and I could go get my stuff out

509
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: cool if friend wanted to. When we got to the carment,

510
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 3: Ken was obviously drunk, but calm and seemed almost apologetic.

511
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: I had already decided I wasn't going to engage with

512
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 3: him at all, because I didn't see the point anymore.

513
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: He did not like being ignored, apparently, and started going

514
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: off gradually, saying worse and worse stuff. I'm very thankful

515
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: to my friends that we were able to get out

516
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: of there quickly, because I have never been so angry

517
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 3: like that in my life.

518
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: Wow. Ken really devolved. But the thing is there were

519
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: red flags beforehand. There were there were more. Like you said,

520
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: it's just kept getting redder and redder and redder. Lisa

521
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: does not deserve to go through that. Ken does not

522
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 2: deserve what he is asking for. I think I would

523
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: have distanced myself as soon as he was like not

524
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: respecting the relationship that we.

525
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: Had, bingo, and also like, I'm sorry, it is never

526
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: a reasonable request to try and get a woman to

527
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: meet you alone when she doesn't want to want to.

528
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: It's one thing if like me and my girlfriend who've

529
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: been in a relationship for three years, yeah, we literally

530
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: live alone, like okay, But if there's someone who's obviously uncomfortable, no, no, no,

531
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: don't meet in person, don't meet at your parents' house,

532
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: meet me at my apartment, and you can't have anyone

533
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: with you. No, that's never so sketchy, so unacceptable, yeah,

534
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: so unacceptable. I'm glad that they finally heeded the red

535
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: flags though, thank god, thank God, thank freaking god. I'm

536
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: curious to all of you, when would you have left

537
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: the situation right, because, like I think I would have

538
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: left as soon as the relationship was not like respected,

539
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: even if it was a situationship yep, undred percent. I

540
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: would love to know what y'all think. I agree with

541
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: you on that one, but let us know in the

542
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: comments below. Also, I do have a little okay storry

543
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: time from my driver's license. Oh not the fact that

544
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: it may or may not be allegedly expired or not.

545
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: That's that's not it. But go to the DMV. Have

546
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: you ever been in the DMV?

547
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah you could, but you can create I'm so bad

548
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: at like, sorry, you give off those vibes.

549
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: What I remember going to the DMV and just sitting there,

550
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: just waiting, and then all these these kids would come

551
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: in and already have an appointment go in front of me.

552
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: You give off those vibes. Appointment vibe. Dude, it's the

553
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: smartest thing that called at the top of it.

554
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: But so I think it was like expired driver's license

555
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: points on their license or whatever. So this is just

556
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: kind of a funny one. So I many of you

557
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: knew I was in drum Line. My upperclassmen when I

558
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 3: were in Drumline were quite a quite a bunch.

559
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: It was like Sin City, it was. It was it

560
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: was g delinquents, it was the degeneracy went deep.

561
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was GTA I r L. So

562
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: this particular guy, let me, let me give him what's

563
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: a good moniker, Greg?

564
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 2: There we go. That's perfect. Greg was just.

565
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: He kind of reminded me if Patrick Starr turned into

566
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: a degenerate teenager, Like that was Greg's vibes. One day,

567
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: he was driving one of the freshmen, one of my friends,

568
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: to school for whatever reason, and he was like, hey,

569
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: watch this. So first he pulled a six pack out.

570
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: It's a crack the open, a gold one. And then

571
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: he started drinking and driving with his feet literally literally.

572
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 3: And then we have like a band class during school,

573
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: and then he came to us the other freshmen, we

574
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 3: were freshmen at the time, and they were like, we

575
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: know Greg is crazy, but y'all are really not going

576
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: to believe this one today.

577
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 2: So he's drinking and driving with his feet. Bro, Florida

578
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: is different, man. Yeah, Tom was an afternoon.

579
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: They were driving to school, sixteen years old, driving to school.

580
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: Bro, drinking and driving.

581
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: That is really some Florida stuff. Greg's built different. You

582
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: know What's so funny.

583
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: When I was in Florida, It's like you never realized

584
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: the thing that you're in. I never thought of it

585
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: as like, oh, that's Florida for you. I was just like, oh,

586
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: this is life, this is how life work.

587
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: Teenagers the old kids are doing it.

588
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: And then later to the points on the on the

589
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: driver's license, he was like driving in a twenty five

590
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: mile per hour zone and had the genius idea of like,

591
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: I wonder if I could go one hundred and twenty

592
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: five miles per hour in this street. So Bro literally

593
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 3: Florida long enough to like hit one hundred and twenty five.

594
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: Cop clocks him on the radar gun at like one

595
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: twenty five, and he got the highest amount of points

596
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: you can possibly get on his license.

597
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: And so the joke was, like, what do you mean

598
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: highest amount of points?

599
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: Maybe this is a Florida thing, but you get points

600
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: on your license if you have like infractions or like

601
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: speeding everyone's five.

602
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like whatever speed.

603
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: If it defers by state by state or what the

604
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: situation is. But he literally got the highest amount and

605
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: you could get. So the new joke was that Drew

606
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: won the game because he got the highest points.

607
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: Before taken away.

608
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah he low key, he probably did get his license

609
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: taken away, but just like I.

610
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Forgot or like you need to take that thing away

611
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: from him.

612
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Greg, greg and then join the navy.

613
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: So, oh is he alive?

614
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: I have no idea honestly, could be a Loki fifty

615
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: to fifty situations.

616
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: We look him up, Yes, it might be.

617
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: It'll be here here herey let me say, let me see. Yeah, Okay, dude,

618
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to save this for another time. But I

619
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: also have a bad cop story from one of the

620
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: drumline people who became a cop and was bad pop

621
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: pop pop pop. Yeah, here we go. I'm told you

622
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 3: guys this. These guys are crazy. Could you imagine little

623
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: innocent me in that group?

624
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: No?

625
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine baby John?

626
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: Get some baby John's in the comments section? I was.

627
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: I was truly so innocent. I never did a Me

628
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: and Sam I both show this. I've never did one

629
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: drop of alcohol, no weed, like like.

630
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: Literally, I didn't go to any parties in high school.

631
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah no party. Wasn't allowed to have sleepovers in high school. Okay,

632
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: here we go.

633
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: Here we go following him now, so we'll see husband, married,

634
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: groom emoji, bride emoji, dog, dog emoji, bs n r N.

635
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: So that's registered nurse. He's taking care of people and

636
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: navy that wow. Okay, so it seems like he's got

637
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: a ship together hopefully. But you know what, maybe that

638
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 3: was him getting it out of his system. But my

639
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: boy lived up to the Florida man name.

640
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: He wild. He was Florida Man. Another life, another life,

641
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: another life, You know what? I have another for you.

642
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: What another story, let's get to it.

643
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: Who