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Speaker 1: This is Jonathan Gillham back in for my good buddy

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Speaker 1: and the powerful Sean Hannity on the universally known Sean

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Speaker 1: Sean And for those of you that like to say

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Speaker 1: could tell this is gonna be a fun show. Should

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Speaker 1: we start with the fact that three seconds ago you

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Speaker 1: beginning of the show, this person here almost had a

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Speaker 1: coronary like, um, hello, hello, live and tense. Okay. I

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Speaker 1: and you know, listen, you've been on conference calls all day.

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Speaker 1: I have to make it exciting for you, right, That's

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Speaker 1: know what, Sit back now's your chance. Is Gilliams in

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Speaker 1: the house and the truth has arrived. Those of you

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and on

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Speaker 1: Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. That's Jonathan T. Gilliam. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Why am I so giddy? Well, partially because being around

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Speaker 1: So I'm you know, go figure the busiest day for

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Speaker 1: incredible about politics. Now everything that you suspected as happening

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Speaker 1: also saying that John McCain potentially Paul Ryan and h

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Speaker 1: and also another congressman I'll get his name up here

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Speaker 1: in just a second. But they were all informed of

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Speaker 1: this dossier. Yeah, it was. Let's see here they say

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Speaker 1: it was. It was shared on December thirteenth with unnamed

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Speaker 1: British security official. This was December thirteenth of twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Goop Illinois A representative Adam Kitzinger. He's the guy that

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Speaker 1: Russian Affairs at the National Security Council, Celeste Wallander and

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Speaker 1: House Speaker Paul Ryan's chief of staff John Burkes. Now,

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Speaker 1: Paul Ryan's team says that this did not happen, but

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Speaker 1: according to the documents that were read in court, it

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Speaker 1: with Paul Ryan's last press or being canceled. It was

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Speaker 1: delayed for a while and then it was canceled. It

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Speaker 1: looks like the president's about to speak, now, let's go

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Speaker 1: to him. Or was stopping them so a process you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't believe how tough, but we're stopping them in record

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Speaker 1: numbers at this moment. There is a debate over funding

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Speaker 1: don't use the word wall necessarily, but it has to

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Speaker 1: made my position very clear. Any measure that funds the

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Speaker 1: government must include border security. Has to not for political purposes,

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Speaker 1: but for a country, for the safety of our community.

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Speaker 1: This is not merely my campaign promise. This is the

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Speaker 1: promise every lawmaker made. It is the solemn promise to

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Speaker 1: is our sacred obligation. We have no choice for decades,

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Speaker 1: Washington abandoned this commitment and allowed millions and millions of

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Speaker 1: of the American people. No one voiced or voted for

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Speaker 1: a policy, no one endorsed this policy, and no one

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Speaker 1: ratified this policy. It was a total assault on our

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Speaker 1: democracy itself. Illegal immigration costs our nation two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy five billion dollars a year. You hear many different numbers.

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Speaker 1: You can say billions and billions, but the number that

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Speaker 1: I hear most accurate is two hundred and seventy billion

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, at least millions of jobs and thousands

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Speaker 1: of innocent lives. More than ninety percent of heroin comes

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Speaker 1: across our southern border. Heroin deaths have triple since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and two. Every week, this illegal heroin kills at

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Speaker 1: least three hundred Americans and course their nation over two

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty billion to two hundred and eighty nine

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Speaker 1: spoke with President she of China and he has agreed

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Speaker 1: to make Fenton All another one of the big, big problems,

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Speaker 1: and probably I think it's just gone to number one,

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Speaker 1: kills eighty thousand people a year in our country. He's

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Speaker 1: going to make that a major crime in China, and

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Speaker 1: if you get caught, you pay a major penalty. It's

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Speaker 1: called the death penalty. And it wasn't listed as a

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Speaker 1: she for doing that. That's a tremendous that's gonna have

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Speaker 1: a tremendous impath. Every day ten known ers expected terrorists

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Speaker 1: try to gain entry into our country. Every day, two

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Speaker 1: thousand illegal aliens try to cross our borders. They try,

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Speaker 1: We get most of them. It's hard without a wall.

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Speaker 1: Every year, fifty thousand illegal children are smuggled by coyotes

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand assaults, thirty thousand sex crimes, and four

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Speaker 1: thousand murders. It's rough stuff. Yet the Democrats continue to

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Speaker 1: oppose border security, no matter how many innocent people get

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Speaker 1: hurt or die ridiculously and dangerously. Certain people want open

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Speaker 1: borders which allow potentially massive crime. Our nation has spent

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Speaker 1: trillions of dollars in sacrifice thousands of brave young lives

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Speaker 1: defending the border of foreign nations. I am asking Congress

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Speaker 1: to defend the border of our nation for tiny fraction,

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Speaker 1: tiny fraction of the cost. Essential to border security is

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Speaker 1: a powerful physical barrier. Walls work whether we like it

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Speaker 1: or not. They work better than anything in Israel. Ninety

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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent successful. Think of it. I spoke

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Speaker 1: to Benjamin Netanyahoo Prime Minister two days ago. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about it. He said it's ninety nine point nine. I

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Speaker 1: mean he came up. I didn't ask. I said, ninety

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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent successful. We have proposed a steel

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Speaker 1: slat barrier to hold. This is John and Gilling filling

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Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. Listen, we got to pay our affiliates,

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Speaker 1: so we'll take a break. We're gonna come back eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and nine for one seven three two six and

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Speaker 1: go get my book Sheep No More The Art of

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Speaker 1: Awareness and a Tax Survival. We'll be right back. This

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Speaker 1: is Johnathan Gilling back in for Sean Hannity. Hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine four one seven three two six is a calling number.

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Speaker 1: When we had to go away from the live feed there.

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Speaker 1: This is The important thing that Trump took away, or

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Speaker 1: that you could take away about Trump, is that he

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Speaker 1: said every lawmaker has sworn to protect the United States.

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Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with him. In fact, it's mandated in

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Speaker 1: the Constitution that public safety be taken care of. So

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate that he said that he's moving forward

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Speaker 1: on this wall. I hope that he continues to stick

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Speaker 1: by his guns, and he will get reelected in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: There's no way he can be stopped. If he does this,

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee it. Go get my book, Sheep No More,

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Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It'll teach you

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Speaker 1: how to guard yourself your life. Cut your life up

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Speaker 1: into sectors, look at it from the attacker, and then

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Speaker 1: look at it from the defender's angle. Sheep no More.

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Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. You can stuff

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Speaker 1: a stocking with it, you can put it under the tree.

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Speaker 1: Go get it and make everybody safer. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: This is good friend, Jonathan Yill. I'm filling in for

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show, calling number

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Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. I

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Speaker 1: promise I will get to your phone calls here shortly.

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Speaker 1: But first, you know, every Thursday, if you tune in regularly,

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Speaker 1: you will hear me. I should say, Daniel McLoughlin and myself.

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Speaker 1: Did I say her last name wrong? Did I say

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Speaker 1: it right? McLoughlin, McLoughlin, you got it? Hey, Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: we were we kind of debate, i'd say every Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but you're so you know, friendly, that it's hard to

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Speaker 1: really full on debate you. So that's why I figured

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Speaker 1: I would reach out to DC McAlister, because she's ruthless,

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Speaker 1: and I figured let's bring her on and let her

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Speaker 1: debate you. So, so welcome to you both. So listen,

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Speaker 1: this is what I This is what I wanted to

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Speaker 1: do with you, guys. I wanted to start off with

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than the normal debate because we

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Speaker 1: had a conversation all three of us last week and

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Speaker 1: it was fascinating. Um. I wouldn't say that everybody agrees

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Speaker 1: on everything, but the fact is that I discovered by

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Speaker 1: talking to you altogether, that everybody has their own way

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Speaker 1: of coming about what they believe. They have their own

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Speaker 1: way of deciding I like that or I don't like that,

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Speaker 1: and what I like about you two is that your

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Speaker 1: free thinkers. You're not just ruled by your ideology. One's conservative,

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Speaker 1: one's liberal. You you actually try to think your way

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Speaker 1: through these things. I don't think Daniel thinks her way

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Speaker 1: through it enough. I'd like to see you think more

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Speaker 1: through it. But that's just because every day so right exactly.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with you. I'll give you a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk. Let's start with you, and you tell me

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Speaker 1: and tell the audience you know, how do you how

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Speaker 1: did you come about your ideology and when you make

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Speaker 1: when you look at what's going on the news. How

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Speaker 1: do you as a liberal and you are a liberal person.

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Speaker 1: I don't like calling you a liberal, but you have

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Speaker 1: How do you come about your decision making process when

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Speaker 1: be with you. Was so good to see you last week.

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Speaker 1: And it's great to be back on air with our

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Speaker 1: wonderful listeners. When your prom don't agree with me, of course,

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Speaker 1: but I'm always so grateful that you tune in. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously, Johnathan, I'm not from here. I grew

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Speaker 1: And I've moved around the world a little bit and

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Speaker 1: in places where they're as a second amendment. I've listened

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Speaker 1: places where there are basically no guns. I've been outlawed.

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Speaker 1: So when I come to an issue, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot about freedom. I think a lot about tyranny, which

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Speaker 1: actually might surprise you. And I think that there's an

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Speaker 1: important role of government in making sure I guess that

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Speaker 1: our freedom is preserved, and I fight back against deregulation,

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Speaker 1: for example. I think that there are some things that

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Speaker 1: government can do and should do, and that is things

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Speaker 1: like a safety net to make sure that people you know,

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Speaker 1: who are the most vulnerable can get it back up

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Speaker 1: on their feet. I think government should have a role

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Speaker 1: in education, at least from to standardize it because Americans

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Speaker 1: will go out into the world and they will compete

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Speaker 1: with other countries. So you know, I think you should

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Speaker 1: get the same quality education whether you are from the

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Speaker 1: West Coast, whether you're from Florida, which from California, whether

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Speaker 1: I worry a lot about last point. In corporate America. Right,

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Speaker 1: we all talk about deregulation, getting rid of the government,

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Speaker 1: but who sits into that vacuum? And I would rather

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Speaker 1: have elected leaders making decisions, people who are accountable to

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Speaker 1: regular people like me, than corporations who, frankly as it

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Speaker 1: should be their primary you know, they the primary goal

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Speaker 1: is to make money, to get money back to their shareholders.

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Speaker 1: I want politicians who account to us. So, Danielle, when

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Speaker 1: and how you look at it, what's the process that is?

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Speaker 1: Have you come about to believe what you believe? And

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Speaker 1: of the news, how do you analyze that? Are you

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Speaker 1: talking to me DC? Yes? Do you want more from Danielle?

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Speaker 1: We're good with Danielle. First, sego ahead, great, No, it's

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Speaker 1: great to be here. Thank you for having me and

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Speaker 1: this wonderful I love you guys. And as far as

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Speaker 1: I come to politics, not from a from a pragmatic

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Speaker 1: I really do look at things with my presuppositions. First,

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Speaker 1: you know, what are my foundational beliefs that I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: to my views on these very social matters, And you know,

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Speaker 1: things like, do I believe in the individual over the collective?

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Speaker 1: Do I believe that we have an economy away from everything?

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Speaker 1: Or do I believe that we were made by a

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Speaker 1: each other? And how is that defined by that objective

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Speaker 1: reality and not by our subjective needs or wants or ideals.

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Speaker 1: I look at life in that frame, and also that

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in that we are progressing towards some

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Speaker 1: kind of ideal. I believe life is an ebb and

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Speaker 1: flow of difficulties. And if you're looking for some kind

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Speaker 1: of perfection or utopia or some kind of betterment of

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Speaker 1: this grandiose betterment of humanity, I don't really look at

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Speaker 1: life that way. I think that we can progress and

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Speaker 1: become better people as far as our character goes, but

647
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Speaker 1: it's always a struggle. You're always going to have the

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Speaker 1: evil mixed among the good. And so I do believe

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Speaker 1: that there's bad and I do believe that there is good.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't put my trust and institutions in

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Speaker 1: that way because I believe that, you know, power corrupts.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at these probably bigger worldview ideals before

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Speaker 1: in principles, before I ever come to some kind of

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Speaker 1: pragmatic conclusions about policy. And you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: what separates me from a lot of people on the

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Speaker 1: left is that, you know, I try to get back

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Speaker 1: to these foundational core principles and where I would see

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Speaker 1: government being involved. My first question is what is the

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Speaker 1: individual's responsibility? That's my first question, and it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a perfect solution. What is then the associations

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Speaker 1: of local involvements what a state. The smaller area of

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Speaker 1: personal responsibility you have, the more freedom you have. So

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Speaker 1: the more active that the individual is and carrying out

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Speaker 1: his own his or her own person personal responsibility, they're

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Speaker 1: going to have greater liberty. And so I'm always moving

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Speaker 1: away from any kind of centralized kind of solutions to

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Speaker 1: two problems into policies and to taking care of people.

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Speaker 1: And in that I'm not looking for perfection. So it's

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Speaker 1: never going to be good. But the more local that

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Speaker 1: we have solutions, that we have policy that we have

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Speaker 1: safety nets that we have these these social frames created,

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Speaker 1: the better it is for everyone because then you have

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Speaker 1: more control and more personal responsibility in it, and you're

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Speaker 1: not giving it over to strangers in the distant place

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Speaker 1: and in the power where power can corrupt. So that's

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Speaker 1: where I come to my views. So you know, those

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Speaker 1: both those statements. Here's the thing that I took from

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Speaker 1: both them, which I find fascinating. I find this UM,

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Speaker 1: this culture. I've had this conversation with rink Unger and

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Speaker 1: UH and many other people before about how we can

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Speaker 1: all listen to one thing and come up with different

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Speaker 1: perspectives of it. And it seems to me that that

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Speaker 1: really what boils down to is, Danielle, you are UM.

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Speaker 1: You're more of a proponent for electing the right people

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Speaker 1: and having them UH do the right thing, if I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this correctly, and DC, you're you're more in tune

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Speaker 1: with UM personal responsibility and and doing things on the

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Speaker 1: local level that would exactly daniel would you say that exactly? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you know I'm not I'm not I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to say that these things aren't mutually exclusive. You know,

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Speaker 1: to DC's points, I do think very firmly that we

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Speaker 1: have autonomy, we have responsibility to be good humans, to

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Speaker 1: be innovative, to take care of our families, to make

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Speaker 1: the right decisions for our children, and the right decisions professionally,

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Speaker 1: you know what have you. But I am not someone

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Speaker 1: I believe also in institutions. I know you and I've

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about, you know, back and forth about

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Speaker 1: the deep state, and you know, whether that exists or not.

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Speaker 1: I know that you believe it does. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think of that government is still a collection of individuals,

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Speaker 1: people who go home every day, kiss their husbands or

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Speaker 1: wives or you know, partners, who see their kids off

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Speaker 1: to school. Most of the government is you know, civil service,

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Speaker 1: non political. I think about that a lot in the

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Speaker 1: light of the potential shut shutdown that's coming it maybe

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Speaker 1: coming down the road in the next couple of days

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Speaker 1: of a Christmas, over the holidays. I try to think

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Speaker 1: about institutions as being full of people who are trying

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Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And to Dacy's point, there

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Speaker 1: are good people, there are bad people, But I tend

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Speaker 1: to have a more positive view about the people who

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Speaker 1: get up every day and go and work, and cederal

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Speaker 1: government haven't been one of those people who gets up

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Speaker 1: and goes who works in the federal government. I will

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Speaker 1: tell you're right about that majority of people are good. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I do look at the politicians you know, typically DC.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Typically the people who

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Speaker 1: willed the most power are where you're going to find

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Speaker 1: in politics anyway, are where you're going to find the

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Speaker 1: bad people. That's they There's two kinds of people that

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Speaker 1: seek higher office typically from what I've seen, and not

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Speaker 1: just higher office in politics, but at an executive level.

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Speaker 1: It's people who want to make a difference and people

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Speaker 1: who want to have more power. Basically, what it comes

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Speaker 1: down well, I think you can have greedy power mongers

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Speaker 1: at any level from the homeowners association all the way

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Speaker 1: up to the prison. Oh yeah, yeah, you're right about

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Speaker 1: that really. I mean yeah, the point is not so

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Speaker 1: much you know who are the good people? Are who

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Speaker 1: as bad people within government? But what does the institution

731
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Speaker 1: itself allow to them to get away with? So the

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Speaker 1: more the smaller the government power and the more local

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Speaker 1: where they're more accountability, the less you're going to have

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Speaker 1: evil people get away with things. You're going to have

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Speaker 1: more of a control and even if they do get

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Speaker 1: away with them, it's not going to affect as many people.

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Speaker 1: So your homeowners association can be a bunch of tyrants,

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Speaker 1: but it's only going to affect your small neighborhood. It's

739
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Speaker 1: not going to affect the entire state or the entire nation.

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Speaker 1: But imagine if you had your homeowners association with a

741
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Speaker 1: bunch of tyrants in Washington, DC, where they aren't as accountable,

742
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Speaker 1: where they have many, many layers of protection from lack

743
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Speaker 1: of accountability, where power can corrupt. So the more distant

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Speaker 1: the government and these individuals, who may be good mix

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00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: of good and bad are away from accountability and away

746
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Speaker 1: from the people themselves, the more that they're going to

747
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: be corrupted and be allowed to be free to get

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Speaker 1: away with things that are harmful to society. This is

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Speaker 1: why I'm very opposed to centralized government. It's not about

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Speaker 1: quality of the people, it's about the quality of the

751
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Speaker 1: structure of the government that allows for evil to take hold.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way the founding fathers here envisioned it.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want a strong federal government. They wanted a

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Speaker 1: strong state governments and local governments. And and I think

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00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: we've gotten away from that, and you can see the

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Speaker 1: ramifications of that. But I want to ask Danielle Um.

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Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you. You've now had your second

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Speaker 1: anchor baby, and uh, it's so so congratulations on that, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. So even if you decide to leave,

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Speaker 1: they still have their citizenship. So what are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: So what do you what do you feel um about

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Speaker 1: now that you know? I mean, I'm being serious here

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00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: and joking in one way. But let's say you had

764
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Speaker 1: to leave your your child now has citizenship, but you're

765
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: you're striving to become a citizen. What do you think

766
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: about people who play that law and will run up

767
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Speaker 1: to the border and and uh and you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna have a baby, they run and get

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Speaker 1: to the border as quickly as they can so they

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Speaker 1: can have a baby inside the inside the United States,

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Speaker 1: just simply to have that that hook. Sure, great question.

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Speaker 1: You know I have a mix of I think for

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Speaker 1: any rule breaker, I have a mix of empathy and

774
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: in a mix of displeasure and upset. So to use

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Speaker 1: immigration as a as an example, clearly, I'm an immigrant.

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Speaker 1: I've done everything the right way. I've been here for

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Speaker 1: seventeen years. I actually thought you were going to ask me, well,

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Speaker 1: how I would feel if I had to leave this country,

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Speaker 1: and I would tell you I would be devastated, because

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Speaker 1: as an immigrant, you choose, you know, you choose where

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Speaker 1: you come to, and so there is a lot of

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00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: I guess, emotional investment in a place that you weren't

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00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: necessarily born about. You've traveled off as times of long

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00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: distance to get to and you climbed over the wall.

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Speaker 1: Are you climbed over a fence? I flew, and I

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Speaker 1: flew and actually, actually you know, there are more visa

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Speaker 1: Overstos than southern border crossis. But will get to that

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Speaker 1: another day. You know it's wrong. There is a reason

789
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Speaker 1: that we have laws, and laws are designed to be followed. Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer. I understand that I do have empathy

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Speaker 1: for people who have walked with their children a thousand

792
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: miles to have waited at a border crossing for two days,

793
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: who find that border crossing to be closed and they

794
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: decide that they're going to to run for the cross

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Speaker 1: so that they can try and claim asylum. Hey, I

796
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: got to take a break. I'm what I'm gonna do

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00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: is let you finished that I'm gonna hold you over

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Speaker 1: and we'll come back to you guys, because I want

799
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: to hear the DC side of this as well. This

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Speaker 1: is John and the gill I'm filling in for Shaun

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Speaker 1: Handy on the Shawan Hanny Radio Show. You thought I

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Speaker 1: was gonna have a huge debate with these two wonderful women,

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Speaker 1: but I'm trying to show people that you can discuss

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Speaker 1: these things, that there is a thinking process with many people.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Go get my book Sheep No More,

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Speaker 1: and the Guillam back in for Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity

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Speaker 1: Radio Show. You can call in eight hundred nine four

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Speaker 1: one seven three two six. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say that all affiliates out there, when you tweet and

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Speaker 1: you you put me up on Twitter and you say

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on, I thank you for that very much.

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00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: It gives my my fans a chance to see if

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Speaker 1: they might be able to tune into your show in

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00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: your local area. So I appreciate that. And this one

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Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to bring Uh, Danielle

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Speaker 1: and DC back on for a minute, and I want

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Speaker 1: to let DC respond to what we were talking about

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00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: their second ago and and basically, well, here's here's what

821
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Speaker 1: I really want to ask you, DC, when it comes

822
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Speaker 1: to the immigration issue, when it comes to all these

823
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: different things that are going on, how do you feel,

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00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, with your conservative values and and your ability

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00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: to analyze things, how do you feel about the way

826
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: this is being handled? Because I know the way America

827
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: feels about it. Um, is it something that how do

828
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: we get the conservative people in office to respond to

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Speaker 1: what we need? Well, I mean, first of all, when

830
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: it comes to immigration in general, we need to get

831
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: the message out as conservatives that we are not against immigration.

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00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: The issue is illegal immigration and with birthright citizenship, this

833
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: is the problem. It's about illegal immigrants coming over and

834
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Speaker 1: having babies to become chance migration sources for a more

835
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: illegal immigration. So I mean, it's just it's about keeping

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00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: the laws, holding up the laws, and that the purpose

837
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: of the laws and get the message out is a

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00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: matter of empathy for Americans and for our society and

839
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Speaker 1: protecting our society, and that we just can't have open

840
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: borders for anyone and that there's a difference between immigration

841
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Speaker 1: and asylum and to understand what asylum laws are. So

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00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: we just really need to understand what the issues are

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00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: before and understand that they are empathetic. The laws gotta run,

844
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Speaker 1: gotta run, Thank you very much. DC hate to cut

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Speaker 1: you off, but that's that's the way that the radio

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Speaker 1: world rolls. Who'll get my book, sheep no more, The

847
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Speaker 1: Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. We'll be right back.

848
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Speaker 1: This is John and the guil and filling in for

849
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Speaker 1: Sean Andy. Listen. I hope you're driving. I hope you're listening.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're somewhere not in New York, we're

851
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: actually driving and you are almost home. You know, I

852
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: want to just want to part for a while. Go

853
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: ahead and listen to show zoom me a good show.

854
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some real information about how you

855
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: can keep yourself safer. Not just over the holiday season,

856
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of things that have been happening

857
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: in the news that if people were just more aware

858
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: of reality of what's going on, they wouldn't be scammed,

859
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be dead if they just had this type awareness.

860
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Let me, I'm gonna take a couple of calls. I

861
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: promised people that I would take more calls today. So

862
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: I want to go to Barbara first. I heard Barbara

863
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: has an incredible accent, and I'm from the South. I'm

864
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: from Arkansas, so I love hearing a good accent. Go ahead, Barbara.

865
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: I live in a barter state, and I know I

866
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: have seen what some people do when they come over

867
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: the Barter. They'll come over and rob us and drive

868
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: right back across the Barter. Now this was about five

869
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: years ago when I was teaching high school. But what

870
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: I called to say is about women supporting Trump. And

871
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: I told your assistant that I had never seen even

872
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: one episode of The Apprentice, and I still haven't if

873
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: there reruns or something. So my opinion of Donald Trump

874
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: was what I had seen over the years in the news,

875
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: and I knew he was a wealthy and successful businessman.

876
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: So I looked at the party platforms. I didn't consider

877
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: myself a Republican art Democrat, but I had also seen

878
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton over the years, and there

879
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: was no choice left. But I enjoyed watching the build

880
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: up to the election, and one of my friends, a

881
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: man who worked for a state financial office, in Virginia

882
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: was very anti Trump, and he had no reason to

883
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: be in the very beginning, but it was the mainstream

884
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: media whose terminology he kept writing in his email. And

885
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I saw the hateful descriptors of Donald Trump, and I

886
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: don't see him as that. I see him as like

887
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: a lot of men I've known in my life. A

888
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: lot of people are women too, who in a moment

889
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: of Hugh Grish and when they're being recorded, like that

890
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: Billy Bush interview, that was what they call a sucker punch.

891
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because we go all the way

892
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: back to that, Barbara, We go all the way back

893
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: to where that interview or that recording was an interview,

894
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: that recording when they were talking in private, and you

895
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: can see that nothing has ever added up. But what

896
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: gets me is that people still they just do not

897
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: believe and understand that they can research what the president

898
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: has done. They can research, you know, how he's been effective,

899
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: they can research how he's treated women, and you can

900
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: see that all the research points to positive. I mean,

901
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: what did they think when they were electing a New

902
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: york right first and foremost, When I think of New Yorkers,

903
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: I think of Linda really I think of outspoken, go getters,

904
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: people who live at the speed of life and they

905
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: get stuff done. And when I look at and they're not,

906
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, not soft spoken. That's not something that I

907
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, sure you don't.

908
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: So sauce sauce spoken is not something that I would say, Oh,

909
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: those New Yorkers, they're so sauce spoken. You're never gonna

910
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: hear that in a conversation. But what I what I

911
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: have found is that the true New Yorkers that I've

912
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: been around, Donald Trump is a true new Yorker. These

913
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: people are go getters. I don't look necessarily at the

914
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: Debbie Washerman, Schultz and the people who've moved to Florida

915
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: as the New Yorkers that I'm familiar with. I'm talking

916
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: about the gritty New Yorkers, the one that will yell

917
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: at you for talking too loud outside on the sidewalk,

918
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: but we'll also on the train. If you say, oh,

919
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: my phone's not you'll have like ten New Yorkers offer

920
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: you their phone. I mean, that's the kind of New

921
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: Yorkers that I'm talking about. And I'm just I'm shocked

922
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: that people are surprised by his outspokenness, by the way

923
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: he tweets, and they confuse that with his effectiveness. And

924
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what Barbara was alluding to there. And

925
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: by the way, Barbara, love your accent. You are a

926
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: soft spoken You should be reading books for a living.

927
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: That's what you should be doing voiceovers for books for kids.

928
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I think that'd be great. So let's go. I'm gonna

929
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: take another call. Let's go to Susan and Dallas. Got

930
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: some Texas women here today. Go ahead, Susan, right, great show.

931
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm calling because I'm frustrated that we're all

932
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: on tens and needles. I feel like Charlie Brown with

933
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: the football. The five billion only covers allegedly one year

934
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: of the wall building, first of all, But didn't Trump

935
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: just in the wall. That's the football right now. It's important,

936
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: but it's secondary. Didn't doll Trump just say he would

937
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: never sign an obscene hinding resolution Again, this puts us

938
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: to four trillion dollars on spending. Yeah, to me, that's

939
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: more important than the wall. So one thing, you know,

940
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: it's interesting with that one thing. I always had a

941
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: problem and I was I was hoping that the President

942
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: would look into this. I've never understood why the budgets

943
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, Like when I was

944
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: in the bureau, you would see in the FBI, you

945
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: would see people scrambling to spend moneys And I never

946
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: understood that. Right, Look, why don't you just say, okay,

947
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: we you know we asked for the budget this year

948
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: it was we only use this much, but we first

949
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: see next year using this much. I mean, if you

950
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: don't use the money, it should be turned back in.

951
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: Not everybody trying to spend it so that they can

952
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: get a bigger budget than next year. And I see

953
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: that a lot, and I think that is one of

954
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: the things that applies to this. But I agree with

955
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: you Susan Well, I mean, what do you think when

956
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: when you hear of how the president is handling these things? Though?

957
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: How do you what is your opinion on how should

958
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: handle it when it comes to dealing with the politics

959
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, Because you know he's gonna have to

960
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: make deals. Well right now, he would have such he

961
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: may end up shutting it down over the wall. But

962
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: to me, he said he would never sign a cr

963
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: again like that when he hit that one day because

964
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: he felt desperate over the signing of the troops. Well,

965
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: we're not at desperate over the signing of the wall

966
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: right now. He should stick with it no matter what,

967
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: even if he ends up losing this. And you know,

968
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: you brought up something very interesting in a very sad situation.

969
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: In San Angelo, Texas, where I grew up, my mother

970
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: was on a semigovernmental board for literacy. She taught adults

971
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: and teenagers and she was perfect. She ends up running

972
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: this not for profit that was governmental, and she ended

973
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: up quitting because at the end of the year, when

974
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: she finally got involved in what was heading the whole thing,

975
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: she saw how the budgeting went, and she was so

976
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: happy that they had not spent her whole budget. She

977
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: was going to give it back the government a grant.

978
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: And the fight that ensued and the lack of literacy

979
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: that's happening because of all this is just sick name.

980
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: She quit and is no longer doing good deeds for this.

981
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: What happened with the budget? Did she give that money back?

982
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: Did they she tried to, She ends up having to quit.

983
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: She quit because they no one would agree and she

984
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: couldn't go on. She literally like she could have just

985
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: said Okay, I've been were overturned by my board. But

986
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: she couldn't she quit, She couldn't stand it. I don't

987
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: understand why this occurs. And thank you for the call, Susan,

988
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: and uh God Buss Texas and everybody there. You all

989
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: have to really stand up because as DC was talking

990
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: about that, you know, the local politics are very important,

991
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: and I do believe that Texas is being subverted and

992
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: you're changing. You're turning purple faster than I've ever seen

993
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: a state. When it kills me the fact that Texas

994
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: is what it is. It is, you know, the the

995
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: conservative state, and it's turning purple so fast that it

996
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: is scary to see that happening. But I do agree

997
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: with you. I do believe that again, and I really

998
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: do like this president, but I'm not ashamed to criticize him,

999
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: not going to back down from criticize him. Everybody makes mistakes,

1000
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: and everybody goes into a process not full well knowing

1001
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: what they'll be able to do. That's a hard thing

1002
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: about politics, as people make promises as they go along

1003
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: and then they realize, Man, if I'm going to get

1004
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: anything done, I'm gonna have to compromise. In some of

1005
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: these things. I hate compromise, but I think when the case,

1006
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: when we look at the president in the way that

1007
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: he's doing things, I think he showed us the perfect

1008
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: example of how to do it when he was in

1009
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: the Oval office And can we play that soundbody and

1010
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: do you have that where he's in the Oval office

1011
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: and he tells Chuck Schumer, yeah, go ahead. One thing

1012
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: I think we can agree on is we shouldn't shut

1013
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: down the government over a dispute. And you want to

1014
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: shut it down, I'm not talking about the last time, Chuck,

1015
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: you shut it Oh no, no, and then you why

1016
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: time quickly? And I don't want to do what you

1017
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: did twenty times you have called for. I will shut

1018
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: down the government if I don't get my wold, none

1019
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: of us. If you want to know something you've said,

1020
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: you want to put them who said it, I'll take it. Okay, good,

1021
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll say, Yes, if we don't get

1022
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: what we want one way or the other, whether it's

1023
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: through you, through a military, through anything you want to call,

1024
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: I will shut down the governay, absolutely, And I am

1025
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: proud and I'll just agree, I am proud to shut

1026
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: down the government for border security each other because the

1027
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: people of this country don't want criminals and people that

1028
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country.

1029
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: So I will take the mental I will be the

1030
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: one to shut it down. I'm not gonna blame you

1031
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: for it. The last time you shut it down, it

1032
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: didn't work. I will take the mental of shutting down,

1033
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: and I'm going to shut it down for border. But

1034
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: we shouldn't shut it. So you know, this is important

1035
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: to me that what he did there was he exposed

1036
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: the way that they work in Washington, DC. He exposed

1037
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: the way that they want to do things in secret,

1038
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: because over and over again they were saying, we should

1039
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: do this in private. We didn't come here to debate

1040
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: in public. And Trump kept saying, this is the ultimate transparency. Well,

1041
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a Senate leader, a congressional House leader,

1042
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: you have the president. Why wouldn't you take advantage of

1043
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: that and work out a problem. But they don't want

1044
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: to work out the problems. See that's the issue. Chuck

1045
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: Schumer said it himself. He said, we have a bill

1046
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: that can pass the House and the Senate. But see

1047
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: that is the problem. He didn't say we have a

1048
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: bill that solves the problem. He said, we have a

1049
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: bill that will pass the House and the Senate. That

1050
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: tells me nothing. It tells me that they have a

1051
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: bill that they can pass that's probably not going to

1052
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: solve anything about immigration whatsoever. And that's the way that

1053
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: they work. So I think I got time for one

1054
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: more phone call. Let's go to um uh, let's go

1055
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: to David and Tampa, Florida. Go ahead, David. But yeah, sir,

1056
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: how are you good? What's going on? Hey? Yeah, I'm

1057
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: really concerned. The other night you brought up a Gallagher

1058
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: in the situation and the soft community. I have a

1059
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: background that back in the nineties, and I have several

1060
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: friends that are still active, both both in the fraud

1061
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Speaker 1: community and KAG and others. And these are senior guys

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01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: that are passing up promotions to leave. One of my

1063
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: friends who's in KG said, I got a little boy

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: who wants to follow my footsteps, and I told him,

1065
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: don't do it. You know, the concern I have is

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: that we are allowing political correctness has taken over the

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01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: point where we're losing people. These aren't to this beer guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, my time in the community, I never

1069
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: saw unprofessionalism. I saw the best the best, and even

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01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: when they wanted to be they maintained a strictest code

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: of honor and integrity. And I'm just really concerned with

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01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: what I see. You know, there's a lot of these

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: guys here in the Tampa area, and with the talking

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01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: I got about, I get about a minute left, David,

1075
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: But now I want to just ask you this question.

1076
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: Does it not concern you if you were a fighter

1077
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: right now? You know I was a seal, right, So

1078
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: it concerns me not only the fact that people aren't

1079
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: stepping up to the plate to defend Eddie Gallagher in

1080
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: this whole host of other people that are being railroaded,

1081
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Speaker 1: but also what about the warfighters that are going down

1082
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: range they now have to fear doing their job. Yeah,

1083
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: and the guys I talked to, like, these guys are

1084
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: getting ready to play, and they're like, I don't want

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01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: to go. First time in my career, I really don't

1086
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: want to go because I'm not going to be allowed

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Speaker 1: to do my job. Politics and Emily Galleys are going

1088
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: to get in the way. Even though we're you know,

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: we're pros. That's shocking. We're not them we're Americans. Yeah,

1090
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: that's shocking, David. Listen. I'm going to talk about that

1091
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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the show, in the five

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour. So God bless you, brother, thank you for

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01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: your service, and thank you for that call. I'm going

1094
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: to reflect on that, and uh, everybody, you can go

1095
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: to m I have to get the website again for

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Speaker 1: Eddie Eddie Gallagher, Justice for Eddie, Justice for Eddie. That's

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Speaker 1: it dot Com. You're welcome. Thank you very much. See

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Speaker 1: either out there. Not they're so soft spoken, the New Yorkers.

1099
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Speaker 1: This is John the Yelling, filling in for Sean Hannity

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01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. I'll

1101
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: be getting back to some of your calls. Peter Schweitz

1102
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: was up next, and go get my book Sheep No More,

1103
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. We'll be right back.

1104
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: This is John the Gilling filling in for Sean Hannity

1105
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: on the Sean Hannity Radio Show eight hundred nine four

1106
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: one seven three two six. Listen, here's what we're gonna do.

1107
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna spend this up all right at five thirty.

1108
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back after this break with Peter Schweitzer,

1109
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: and that's always fantastic to have him on the show.

1110
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna dig into some serious government issues that are

1111
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: going on as always, but I want to come back

1112
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: at five thirty. I want to play a little game

1113
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: with the callers. I want to find out what the

1114
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: worst Christmas present is that you ever got and did

1115
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: you regift it? And maybe if you have a story

1116
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: about a knockdown, drag out that happened at your house

1117
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: over Christmas. No, no, no no, no, we already debate that. No, no, no,

1118
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: that's not in the spirit of Christmas. Okay, who's from

1119
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: New York? Yah? Meo, Yeah, that's right. I'm the southern gentleman.

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Speaker 1: I'll let her get her away. Oh good lord. Plus

1121
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: she's my boss right now. So so we're gonna come

1122
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: back at five thirty, and that's what we're gonna talk

1123
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Speaker 1: about work. I want to hear what the worst Christmas

1124
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: present was that you ever got and did you keep

1125
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: it or did you return it? And I'm also you

1126
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: know what the thing about me is, I love getting

1127
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: Christmas cards and Birthday cards and stuff, but I throw

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Speaker 1: those things away pretty quick. I don't want to have

1129
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: a sentimental attachment to cards. I get throw away cards

1130
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: that people give you. What am I supposed to do

1131
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: with them? You hang them up? Well, I mean I

1132
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: love him. Sit there until the holiday's over and there

1133
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: throw them away like Christmas at midnight, you throw them out. Yeah,

1134
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes I throw them. Might want to

1135
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: get them and you know, not to go to Hallmark

1136
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: for you. Just just tell me you love me. That's

1137
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Speaker 1: the way it works. Speaking of presents, though, sheep no more.

1138
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It'll teach you

1139
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: how to divide your life up into sectors so that

1140
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: you can determine and predict every single attack that could

1141
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: ever happen to you. Sheep no more. The Art of

1142
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: Awareness and Attack Survival. We'll be right back. This is

1143
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: John the Gillam back in from my buddy Sean Handy

1144
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: on the Sean Hannity Radio Show eight hundred and nine

1145
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: for one, seven, three, two six. Don't forget. We're gonna

1146
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: come back at five thirty and we're gonna talk about

1147
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: the worst Christmas present you ever got? Did you keep

1148
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: it or did you return it? Were you crabby or

1149
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: were you good? Which one was it? So you know, listen,

1150
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: there's so much going on right now in the news.

1151
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's been going on forever in politics, but

1152
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: really since twenty sixteen it ramped up to a hooky

1153
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: in state when it comes to corruption and bias and

1154
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: divisiveness in Washington, d C. I figured, you know Peter Schweitzer,

1155
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: who I like to have on here when I host,

1156
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: because he's got this insight into the way thing occur there.

1157
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: He thinks like I do. I wanted to have him

1158
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: back on because I want to ask him some questions

1159
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: to give the conservatives and the freethinkers, the real thinkers

1160
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: out there, some you know, some ammunition when they go

1161
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: to their Christmas dinners with their families, and I know

1162
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: that politics are going to come up. So those of

1163
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: you don't know, and I'm sure you do know who

1164
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer as you create. He's a creator of a

1165
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: new documentary called The Creepy Line That's gonna and he

1166
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: let's see. He's also the author of Clinton Cash and

1167
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: co author of Compromise. He is also the president of

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Speaker 1: the Government Accountability Institute. Peter is always it's great to

1169
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Speaker 1: have you here, Hey, thanks for having me on. A

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Listen I want to ask you. I'm gonna

1171
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Speaker 1: talk about this towards the end of the show, but

1172
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: there was a judge down in Florida who says that

1173
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Speaker 1: the cops and the schools had no duty to shield

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01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: students in Parkland High School. Yeah, so it's easy to

1175
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: see the level of incompetence in that story in the

1176
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: headline alone. What is after doing this, what you've been

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: doing for so many years and seeing what you've seen

1178
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: in the depth at which you've investigated this stuff, how

1179
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: surprised even though people know that a lot of politicians

1180
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: are incompetent and corrupt, how incompetent and how corrupt have

1181
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: you seen some of these people? Well? I think it's

1182
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a huge problem. And what people realize

1183
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: the closer they interact with government is that the government's

1184
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: role is essentially to protect its own power, and government

1185
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: bureaucrats and politicians are basically looking to protect themselves in

1186
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: their own interests. There's a school of economic thought called

1187
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: a public choice theory, and what public choice theory basically

1188
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: says is that you need to think about government and

1189
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: politicians as basically businessmen. You know, we know what businessmen

1190
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: are designed to do. They want to, you know, create

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01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: products and services, and they want to make money. Well,

1192
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: politicians basically have those same human motives. They may wrap

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: up what they do in some wonderful sounding words, but

1194
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what they are interested

1195
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: in doing is creating demand for their services. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm a politician, you know, I don't really get paid.

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Speaker 1: I mean to be cynical about it, I don't really

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Speaker 1: get paid to fix problems. I get paid to rustle

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Speaker 1: with problems and people will donate money to me or

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Speaker 1: they will hire you my son as a lobbyist because

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: there's a crisis or a problem out there that they

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: want fixed. But I actually don't get paid for fixing

1203
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Speaker 1: the problem. And so what people have to understand is,

1204
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, governments are populated by people, and people in

1205
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: government have the same motivation that people do out of government.

1206
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Speaker 1: The difference, though, is that in business, you get paid

1207
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: and you become rich by providing services and goods that

1208
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: people want. You know, Bill Gates became fabulously rich in Microsoft,

1209
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: not by forcing people to buy his product, but by

1210
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: providing a product that people would spend a lot of

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01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: money to buy. Government, they don't have that ability. So

1212
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: what they do is they use their power and their

1213
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: authority to force people to do things or to threaten

1214
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: people with things in order to monetize that position. And

1215
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: that I think is the biggest thing that people have

1216
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: to understand about how Washington, DC works and why problems

1217
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: never seem to get fixed. And all you have to

1218
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 1: do is look at the headlines today about the border

1219
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: wall and the budget and all the drama that's taking place.

1220
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Speaker 1: This is a classic example of that. And it's interesting

1221
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: because if they did their job and actually solved problems,

1222
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Speaker 1: they'd almost for sure get reelected. And that's what I

1223
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: don't get is if we had a political party that

1224
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: really went in there and all the people that were

1225
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: associated with it said we are going to get stuff done,

1226
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: they would get elected every time they would. But you know,

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Speaker 1: what they're looking for is not just to get reelected.

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: They're looking for what's the gig after they're done. You know,

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01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: there's an old saying in New Jersey politics, make a law,

1230
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: make a business, And what they're basically saying is that,

1231
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: you know, you want to create opportunities for yourself down

1232
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: the road, recognizing you may not be in political office forever,

1233
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: even though it seems like some of these people have

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01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: been So you know, let me give you an example,

1235
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: a very simple example. You know certain tax credits that

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 1: are out there. There's there's a research and development tax

1237
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: credits that companies get, and this tax credit allows them

1238
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: if they invest in research and development in creating new technologies,

1239
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: they get a special tax credit or tax break based

1240
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Speaker 1: on that investment. Well, this has been on the book

1241
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty one, but they never make it permanent.

1242
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: And you think, well, you should make it permanent so

1243
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: businesses know it's going to be there. But if you

1244
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: think like a politician, you realize that if you make

1245
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: that law permanent, you can't go back to companies and

1246
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: ask them for money. If you make it last three

1247
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: years and then it's up for Newell those three years later,

1248
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: you can go to companies and say, you know this

1249
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: law might go away, you better pay us, give us donations,

1250
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: give us lobbying contracts, and then we will renew it.

1251
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: And so this is the balance. It's not just about

1252
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: getting reelected. It's about positioning themselves but also their family

1253
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: members in a way that they can extract money from

1254
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: taxpayers and use their power for their own self enrichment. Now,

1255
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: I had an individual that's running and I don't know

1256
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: if you want to need to find out if you

1257
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: want up in Massachusetts. And he's a Harvard grad and

1258
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: he said that in his eye, in his mind, that

1259
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: Harvard is basically a hedge fund for Washington, DC. And

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting when the way he explained it. So do

1261
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: you think that people come to Washington DC with this

1262
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: premise or is this something that they grow into once

1263
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: they get there, because it does exist in the city

1264
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: and then the state politics as well, but not to

1265
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: the extent of you know, these people becoming you know,

1266
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: multi multimillionaires within four years. Yeah, I mean that's a

1267
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: great question. I mean it's always hard to know to

1268
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: look into somebody's mind and soul and to know why

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Speaker 1: they're motivated to do something. But all you can do

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Speaker 1: is kind of look at what their actions betray and so,

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Speaker 1: you know, to give you a very clear cut example

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Speaker 1: of how this works, you know, go back to Dodd

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Speaker 1: Frank which was the big financial reform bill after the

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Speaker 1: financial crisis, and when you add up all the rules

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Speaker 1: that Dodd Frank bill, which was after Senator Chris Dodd

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Speaker 1: and Congressman Barney Frank. It's like some ten thousand pages

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Speaker 1: of rules. It's this enormously complex bill, and people like

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Speaker 1: Warren Buffetts say, I don't understand the rule. People that

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Speaker 1: are the smartest lawyers you know working for banks look

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Speaker 1: at this and say, we don't understand it. It's so complicated.

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Speaker 1: And the point is, of course it is. It's designed

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Speaker 1: to be complicated. So the people that wrote this complex,

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Speaker 1: highly convoluted bill, once the bill became law, you know

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Speaker 1: what they did, they quit their jobs on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 1: and they opened up a consulting firm charging financial companies

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Speaker 1: to interpret the bill that they had written. So, in

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Speaker 1: other words, if the bill was simple, if the regulations

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Speaker 1: were easy to understand, there's no way they could have

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Speaker 1: monetized that. But they could monetize it precisely because the

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Speaker 1: law was so complicated. And this this occurs not just

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Speaker 1: in finance, but in environmental law, all kinds of areas.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you made the comment about you know,

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Speaker 1: Harvard kind of being a breeding ground for this, part

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Speaker 1: of what's happening is, you know, very smart people that

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Speaker 1: used to go into the private sector, you know, because

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Speaker 1: they wanted to make money, which is great. Are increasingly

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Speaker 1: going into government because they feel like they can accomplish

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Speaker 1: their political goals and they can also get rich at

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Speaker 1: the same time. The difference is when you get rich

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Speaker 1: in the public sector. In government, you're doing it at

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Speaker 1: the expense of other people. It's a zero sum game.

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: You have to take things away from other people, you

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01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 1: have to threaten them with, you know, regulations or laws

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: to make money, Whereas in the private sector you become

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01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: rich because you're providing a service that people voluntarily choose

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: to have, whether it's a computer or an iPod or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this for quickly. Then I

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Speaker 1: got to take a break. When you look at the

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Speaker 1: wall and what Trump is facing, how much of what

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Speaker 1: we're discussing here plays into the fact that this keeps

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Speaker 1: getting delayed. Yeah, yeah, oh huge, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the legislative battles that you see on

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01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: Capitol Hill it's like professional wrestling. You know. I've watched

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: professional wrestling when I was a little kid, and I

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: thought it was real. I thought the guy hitting the

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01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: guy with the chair really hated the guy that he

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01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: was hitting with the chair, and then my dad said, no,

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01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: these guys work together. They're actually business partners. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of what's going on. You've got people in the Democratic

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Speaker 1: side who want the looming thread of the wall because

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01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: that scares people on their side and scurries up donations.

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Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of powerful interests that don't

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01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: want the wall built because it's going to hurt their

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Speaker 1: labor costs. But the bottom line is, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is something that the president promised. I think something that

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: the president should do, and the people that are critiquing

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01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: him and saying, well, the wall's not going to be

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: as effective that you know, we need to do these

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01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: other things are really being disingenuous because those people have

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Speaker 1: not been spending the last six years trying to strengthen

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Speaker 1: the border. It's just sort of a disingenuous explanation. So

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, we've reached this critical point. I

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Speaker 1: think the president's drawn a line in the sand, and

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to stick to his guns. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 1: when he stuck to his guns and the ovals, I'll

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01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: just keep talking about that as much as possible. It's

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Speaker 1: probably the greatest example of leadership I've seen from a

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Speaker 1: president in a long time. I mean, it was amazing

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01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: the way he stood up to Chuck Schumer, Nan Pelosi.

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Speaker 1: And what's funny is when he does that, they just

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01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: do not know how to take it right right, because

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: everybody in Washington as a dealmaker. I mean, there's a club,

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: and I understand that compromise is part of how the

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01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: American system works. But the problem is the compromise always

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,440
Speaker 1: seems to go one direction, and the point of compromises

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: that there should be winners on both sides. And so

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Speaker 1: I think he's right to draw the line, and I

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: think ultimately, if he sticks to his guns, something will

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01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: come out of this that will move us in the

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Speaker 1: direction of actually building a wall. One last thing, do

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Speaker 1: you think the Clintons will ever go to jail? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to go to jail.

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful still that there will be a grand jury.

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Speaker 1: There may possibly be a grand jury right now. What

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01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: I've always said is there needs to be an investigation.

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: If you if you go back and look at in

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Speaker 1: early twenty seventeen, what we knew about the Russian collusion

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: that has never materialized, and what we knew about the

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Speaker 1: Russian Sorry the Clintons taking money from foreign entities we knew,

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Speaker 1: and there was a lot more damning evidence about the

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Speaker 1: Clintons than there ever was about Russia collusion, and yet

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Speaker 1: we ended up investigating one and not the other. And

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Speaker 1: what I've always said is we should have investigated both.

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Speaker 1: We've only investigated one. And I think what people are

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01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: mostly frustrated about is the selective nature of justice in

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Speaker 1: this country, that only certain people are expected to abide

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Speaker 1: by the rules, not others. It was that way when

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street crashed and you had very low level

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01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: people that engaged in mortgage fraud ended up having the

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Speaker 1: book thrown at them. But you know, the big guys

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Speaker 1: on Wall Street who were falsifying huge amounts of mortgage

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Speaker 1: backed securities and bragging about an email, none of them

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: were ever charged and prosecuted. And this is the heartbeat

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Speaker 1: of the American system of justice, that we are supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a nation of laws, not of men. But

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: as long as only certain people getting investigated and looked

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01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: at and not others, it's going to further erode the

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Speaker 1: confidence that people have in our system. Listen, thank you

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Speaker 1: as always love having you on and the insight that

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: you provide is just amazing. It's absolutely amazing, So we

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Have a merry Christmas, Peter, Thank you brother.

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Speaker 1: Take care you got it. Peter Schweizer. He's a creator

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01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: of the documentary The Creepy Line. He's also the president

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Speaker 1: of the Government Accountability Institute and co author of Compromised.

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: This is Jonathan Gillham. Go get my book Sheep No More.

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Speaker 1: The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival, and make sure

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: you crawl in. Yeah, tell us. You gotta call it

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: what your worst Christmas gift was? And did you return it? No?

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: Did you regift it? Regifted or returning is fine, but

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 1: when you regift, that's deception. Yeah. I like to see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Welcome. Well, I know one gift that you

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Speaker 1: won't regift. That's cheap, normal baby. Keep No More The

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Speaker 1: Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's on an Amazon,

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Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble, Walmart dot com, everywhere. Go get it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. This is Jonathan gill And filling

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Speaker 1: in for my good buddy Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity Radio Show,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine four one seven, three two six.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the phone lines, and I want

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Speaker 1: to hear about the worst Christmas present you ever got?

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Speaker 1: And did you regifted? So let's go. Let's just go

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01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: straight down the line. Let's start with Dwayne in Ohio.

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01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dwayne. Yeah. I regifted it to my dad

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01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: and he wore every Christmas for you know, five or

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01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: six years. What was it? What'd your regift? What was it?

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01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: It was a sweater, it was It was the ugliest

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: sweater I ever got in my life. But it had

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01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: Santa Claus with a rootolph nose on it, and it

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: was two sizes too big for me. So I gave

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Speaker 1: it to my dad the next year. One man's trash

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01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: is another's treasure. Hey, God bless you, Dwayne. That's the

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: way you're supposed to do it. Let's go to Maryland

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: and Mississippi. Go ahead, Maryland, Hello, what's going on there? Well?

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell you, lady, but my grandmother, about five

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Speaker 1: years beforehand, received a pair of pajamas. She was an

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Speaker 1: old lady, and they're very you know, the inflamity pajamas,

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01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: and they had a pull in them, and she wrapped

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Speaker 1: them up and gave them to me for Christmas. So no,

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01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't rewrap them. I just threw them

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Speaker 1: away because I knew where they came from. So and

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Speaker 1: my grandmother was trying. She's very frugal. My granddaddy had

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Speaker 1: passed like forty years earlier, so uh yeah, they had

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Speaker 1: a pull in. I'm I could tell they were definitely used. Well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go right now. We'll end with that one

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Speaker 1: and we'll come back from the break and talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about some of these things. It's Johnny

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Speaker 1: gill And filling in from my good buddy, Sean Hannity.

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01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: Go get my book Sheep no more Art of Awareness.

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01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: It's the Christmas present you'll want to give. We'll be

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01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: right back. This is Jonathan gilb And filling in from

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Speaker 1: my good buddy Sean Hannity, Calling numbers eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine four one, seven, three two six. We're gonna talk about, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the ability to tell everybody about

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Speaker 1: the worst Christmas present you ever got and did you

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Speaker 1: regift it? But I have to tell you a little

1435
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: bit of breaking news here is that Maddis has announced

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: that he'll be retiring in February. And I've got my

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01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: own opinions about that, but we'll save those for now,

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01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: and we will go and go straight to the phone calls.

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: I scared Linda right there. I think let's go. Scy

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01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, I'll save that for now.

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01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a jolly good time right now. So

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Speaker 1: let's go to Calvin in California. Calvin, you're on the

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01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: air with like ten twenty million people, I think maybe thirty.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, knock it out the park. Trying

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01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: to make me nervous just a little. Hey Mary, Christmas brother,

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01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: thank you in the same to you. Hey, my worst

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01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: Christmas present was a Grinch doll. I'm in my fifties

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Speaker 1: now and I got this in my mid twenties. And

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01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: not because I'm a Grinch, because I love Christmas, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's because I liked the movie so much.

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01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: They bought me a Grinch doll. And I'm like, what

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01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do with this? You don't you

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: don't give a Christmas decoration for a Christmas present? What

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01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: am I gonna do with this thing? Interesting? And what

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01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: did you do with it? I burned it, because that's

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01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,560
Speaker 1: what you do with bad Christmas presents. You burned them exactly,

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: all right, well, Linda's coming back in right now. He

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Speaker 1: burned his Christmas present because he didn't like it. Was

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Speaker 1: a grinch. I listen, that's the way it goes. Hey, Calvin,

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Speaker 1: God bless you haven't married Christmas out there in California.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, back at you. He Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Michael and Jacksonville's at Jacksonville, Florida. Yes, sir, my worst

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Speaker 1: present ever was a wooden bowl that was given to

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Speaker 1: me by my niece. You have a large family, so

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01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: we started drawing names so he wouldn't have to buy

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Speaker 1: presents for everyone. And I opened this thing and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a bowl, and she's like, well, I saw it

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Speaker 1: at this craft show and I really liked it. And um,

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Speaker 1: the guy even signed it and dated it. So I

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Speaker 1: am waiting for the day that I draw her name

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Speaker 1: so I can return it, so you will regift it

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Speaker 1: to the person that thought it was great. All right? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: every year I hope and wish that I get her name,

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Speaker 1: and it hasn't happened yet. I've had this thing for

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01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: three or four years now, and hopefully I live long

1476
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: enough to give it back to her. You just leave

1477
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: it in her bag. Hey, God bless you have a

1478
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: mere Christmas down there in Jacksonville. You too, a lot

1479
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: of great people down there. Let's go to Aaron and Tennessee.

1480
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Aaron, Hello, Jonathan, get to talk to you. Well,

1481
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: I can't really, I can't really think about the worst

1482
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Christmas friend and I ever got. Um, I guess I've

1483
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: never been the time to really think them that way.

1484
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: But the worst Christmas friend and I ever gave was

1485
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: a cousin of mine that wanted to beat TV for

1486
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: a room. Now, of course, this was back before the

1487
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: flat screens and all that stuff, and um, and I

1488
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: got a big TV box and I've made sure and

1489
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: I turned around and I wrapped it up. But I

1490
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: also wrapped up boxes inside and kept wrapping and wrapping

1491
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: the all nine yards, all the way down to one

1492
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: of those old black and white three inch walkman TVs.

1493
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: And I actually met sure to box. Wead the same

1494
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: and everything else. She was all excited when she got

1495
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: it open and everything else, But then the next box down,

1496
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: then the next box down, and then But you know,

1497
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: my thought on that was at the times she was

1498
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: still in school. She didn't need a TV in her

1499
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: room anyway. There you go. Now, are you originally from Tennessee? Uh? No,

1500
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm actually originally from whale Ming. Um. I've actually reviewed

1501
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: your book and I was the city candidate last year

1502
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: that that was really excited about your book. Awesome. My

1503
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: name Aaron Eddigrew, and I am running again since Lamar

1504
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Alexander decided to retire too. Well, you just keep it going.

1505
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: I just want to know if this since a humor

1506
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: came from Wyoming or did it come from Tennessee. Oh,

1507
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: I've got a good sense of humor all the way around.

1508
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, some of it's a little dark and some

1509
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: of it's a little You know that I'm gonna have

1510
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,759
Speaker 1: to if I win. You know, I don't want Peter's

1511
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: White's to be writing about me. There you go, which

1512
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm in the kind of candidate he won't have to

1513
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: write about him as you're writing a good noticed book.

1514
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: But you know we'll leave that at that. There you go. Brother, Hey,

1515
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Having Merry Christmas and be safe

1516
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Happy New Year, and God bless you got it.

1517
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to Gary in Pennsylvania. Go hey, Gary, Hey, Jonathan,

1518
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: how are you doing? What's going on? Buddy? I'm still

1519
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: laughing about that guy burning the Grinch. Maybe it's some

1520
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: anger issues buried inside. I don't know that's hysterical. But anyways,

1521
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: my present is the worst and the weirdest because when

1522
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: I was in my these my mother, one of the

1523
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: presents she gives me is a pair of pajamas. Now,

1524
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: the reason that's weird is I'm in my servities and

1525
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: I haven't slept in pj's since I was like eleven

1526
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: or twelve, so I gifted it's a Goodwill. Well, there

1527
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: you go. That's good. You know what's Listen, I'm gonna

1528
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: be honest with you about Goodwill. I love it. I

1529
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: really think you can go in there. All these people

1530
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: spend all this money on these grunge pants. You can

1531
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: normally find all that stuff in there. I just don't

1532
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: know why Goodwill repurposes men's underwear that's hanging on the hangars.

1533
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: I just don't forget that Bill Clinton also donated has

1534
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: used underwear. Did he really? Yeah? No, that was a

1535
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: big thing back in the Clinton years that he donated

1536
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: their underwear and deducted it on their taxes. We've gone

1537
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: down a dark alley in this conversation listen, Gary, best

1538
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 1: of your mom, have a merry Christmas. And you know what,

1539
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: you should post pictures of those pj's from now, and

1540
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: that's what I think you should do. Let's go to

1541
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: Mike in Santa Barbara. Go ahead, Mike. Hello, Hi. The

1542
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: worst Jeff that I ever got was about a couple

1543
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: of years ago, right, I got this, uh Hillary Candidacy Ye?

1544
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: And then I regifted her to Chappaqua. Yes, and Bill's

1545
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 1: underwear evidently as well, because we just anyway, Hey, listen,

1546
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: that was that was part of the deal. That was

1547
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: part of the deal, and that was that was a

1548
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: very good Christmas. You did a very I gotta tell you, Mike,

1549
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: you did a great job and regifting that give it

1550
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: back to them and uh and god bless you haven't

1551
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: marry Christmas. Thank you? You got it. We still got

1552
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: some time. Let's go to Gary and Virginia. If this

1553
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: is the Gary that I think it is, Gary, is

1554
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: that you you found? Did you find me on show?

1555
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: You follow me on every show that I that I hosted? Man,

1556
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: But I told you, I told you a couple of

1557
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: days who wasn't year on web that I probably wouldn't

1558
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,839
Speaker 1: able to get through you did today. The first president

1559
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: I've ever got is my wife. Oh you're gonna get

1560
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna get smacked for that one. You're still married to.

1561
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: She didn't. I still have her up to thirty four years.

1562
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: A regift her. She might regift you now she's got

1563
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: a looking at it. But she wouldn't even know how

1564
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: did the phone call. So there you go, there, there

1565
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: you go. Oh my gosh, Ted tell Linda and you said,

1566
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys, the whole staff that show and

1567
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: all the other Patriot channels, Barry Christmas be safe. Please

1568
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: you too, my friend, And thank you for all the

1569
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: calls that you give and whenever I'm hosting all the

1570
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: different shows. I can't thank you enough, my friend, have

1571
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 1: a merry Christmas and give your wife I love. Boy's

1572
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a long Christmas. Like I said, my son's

1573
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: looking at me. I say, keep your mouth shut. Oh man,

1574
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: all right, God bless you brother. All right, brother, all right,

1575
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: take here. Let's go to David in Massachusetts. David, what's

1576
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: going on? Hey? Jonathan? Aw you doing? I'm doing good

1577
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: in yourself? Good? Thanks? If you you'll hear a little

1578
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: voice back here. I'm driving my kid home from daycare.

1579
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: But uh, the worst Christmas president I ever had actually

1580
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: makes me blunch talking about it now. It's quite a

1581
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: few years ago. My soon to be mother in law,

1582
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: so I had just started dating a girl and we

1583
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: moved in together. And I want to say it was

1584
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: my second Christmas with the family, and we were at

1585
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: her house that the month might soon be mother in

1586
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: law's house, with the grandmother as well, and my wife

1587
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch. The last gift I opened is

1588
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: a crochede penis warmer? What ona? Who made? Are you

1589
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: sure that's what it was? Not like a banana holder

1590
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: or some kind of like it was a potholder for

1591
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: a skillet. It was it would have been a very

1592
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: interesting shaped skillet if it was, but hearted so she

1593
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: bought it somewhere, but it was crochade. And I'm blushing

1594
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: now telling the story, probably as bad as I was

1595
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: the day that I opened it. And uh, I'm standing there,

1596
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. I'm holding this thing in my hand.

1597
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't even believe it and totally dead pan. She

1598
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: looked at me and she says, I hope it's not

1599
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: too big, Oh, I you know, so welcome to the

1600
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: family pretty much. The now is that your current wife?

1601
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: Is that your wife or is that somebody else? It

1602
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: was my it's my wife's mother, so it is a

1603
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: woman you married though. That's her mom. Yes, So there's

1604
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: no way that this is this phone call is not

1605
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: going to get back to her. I can guarantee you

1606
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: this is going to get back to her. And I

1607
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: would love to find out if she thought that was,

1608
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: um like something that you put on a skillet or

1609
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: something like that. I'd like to know the rationale. She

1610
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: completely knew and she did it totally on purpose. She

1611
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 1: is a rascal that one. All Right, listen, Dave, have

1612
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: a merry Christmas. You've completely shocked everybody in the audience.

1613
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: It's listening to this show right now. So God bless you.

1614
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: God bless you too, So take care of all right, buddy,

1615
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: all right, if somebody can top that one. That was

1616
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: not only funny, it was very creepy as well. Um,

1617
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 1: there's so many things I could say that I would

1618
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: never get the host of show again if I said them.

1619
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: Right now, let's go to uh Ray in Utah. Utah's

1620
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: a comm state, so it's got to be cleaner than

1621
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:21,919
Speaker 1: that one. Go ahead, Ray, I'm not sure. Hey, um,

1622
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: several years back, we were my wife and I were

1623
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: remodeling our home and uh, a bathroom came up. And

1624
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: so anyway, I'll opened up my big flat Christmas present

1625
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: and it's a toilet seat. A toilet seat that is wow?

1626
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: What is Was it at least padded? No? Oh? My lord? Okay,

1627
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: I you know I have a degree in psychology, right,

1628
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna soon to be honest with you. Whoever

1629
01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: gave that to you? Hate you? That's my wife. Okay.

1630
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 1: Maybe she's sending you a message. Maybe you need to

1631
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: keep the toilet seat lid down. Maybe that's what the

1632
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: message was there. I don't know. Hey, God bless you. Ray,

1633
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: have a merry Christmas, my friend. Hey, thank you, thank you.

1634
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'll take one more of these and

1635
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: then we'll go to a break. Let's see here. Let mean,

1636
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: look what we got here? All right? Running to do real?

1637
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Three or three of real quick. Let's go to Will

1638
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: and Mississippi. Go ahead, Will, Hey, Mary, Christmas, I think

1639
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I've got everybody beat. Where'd you get? It? Was a

1640
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,839
Speaker 1: company Christmas party last week? And I got what happened?

1641
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Hillary Rodham Clintman. Oh, I would have jumped out the

1642
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: window or I would have fallen down. I had a

1643
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: heart attack and sued him. It was absolutely awful. Hey,

1644
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: God bless you brother. Have a merry Christmas. Christmas, all right,

1645
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: let's go to Karen and Indiana. Go ahead, Karen, good evening.

1646
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Back in the seventies, I was dating a very nice

1647
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 1: man and he bought me for Christmas and olive green blender.

1648
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 1: And it made it even funnier was a few nights

1649
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: later we were watching the Bob Newhart Show and Bob

1650
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: want Emily a blender for Christmas, and she was not happy.

1651
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: And we watched that show with utter silence. You should

1652
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 1: have when the show is over, you should have handed

1653
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: the BLINDERD said, go make me a smoothie, buddy. I

1654
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: don't think that's smoothies back then. All right, well, merry

1655
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Christmas on that one. All right, let's go to Rick

1656
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: in California, the last one. Rick, go ahead, thank you

1657
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: very much. I'm a bass fisherman and my family knows it.

1658
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: And let since they opened a bass pro shop, they

1659
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: give me crap. I have wooden fish, I got plastic fish,

1660
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I got singing fish, got fish magnets for the refrigerators,

1661
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: fish pencils, pillows, fishing signs, fish can I got more

1662
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: crap in my office stacking up my depth. I'm gonna

1663
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: quit fishing. Hey, Rick, at least you didn't get a

1664
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: penis warmer from your mother in law. Okay, so look

1665
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 1: you got that going for it. Hey, God bless you

1666
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: have a great Christmas Rick YouTube brother. All right, buddy,

1667
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: let's go to a break and come back finish up

1668
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: the show. This is Jonathan Gillham. That that whole thing

1669
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: has really still got me going. I knew that was

1670
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: going to be a good subject. You did really good

1671
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: and picking that out, Linda. You can find me on Twitter,

1672
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,879
Speaker 1: Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam,

1673
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: also on Instagram and YouTube at Jonathan T. Gilliam And

1674
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: go get my book Cheap No More of the Art

1675
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: of Awareness and Attack Survival. Talk a little bit more

1676
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 1: about that, and I wish you some merry Christmas things

1677
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and we'll come back in just a minute. This is

1678
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: John the Gilliam end of the show for Sean hannityby

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Speaker 1: this to be my last show before we go to Christmas,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to say again, I want to

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01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: reach out to everybody and say thank you for all

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01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: the donations you've given to my sister Alison, who was

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01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,879
Speaker 1: almost beaten to death a week ago today down in Florida.

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Speaker 1: And you can go to go fund gofund me dot

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Speaker 1: com and then type in the search Alison A L

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Speaker 1: I S S A N A L I S S

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Speaker 1: A N and then I'll bring you up to her page.

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01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 1: And we can't thank you enough because she is going

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01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: to have tremendous, tremendous medical bills and I can't thank

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01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: you enough for that. I also want to say go

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01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: to justice for Eddie dot com, Navy seal that's being held.

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01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. His command Rosenbloom, and who's the comment we're

1693
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know what you're doing, sir, but

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01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: it certainly ain't standing up for the Brotherhood. And I

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01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: don't like the way this thing is unfolding. It's not right.

1696
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: And the people that are going around spreading rumors about

1697
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: stuff that they have no idea about, you should stop it,

1698
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: all right. That's not the way the Brotherhood's supposed to work.

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01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: If there is in fact still one. The last thing

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01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: cheap No More, The Art of Awareness and a Tax Revival.

1701
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: I talk about my book a lot, but I'm telling

1702
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: you right now, if you gift it to your kids,

1703
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 1: you may very well save your life. If you give

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01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: it to your mayor, you'll make your city safer. If

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01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: you give it to your chief epolice, the parishioners in

1706
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: your church, or the preacher, if you work in a hospital,

1707
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: if you're a teacher, get this book. I could go

1708
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: on and on about it, but I believe in it

1709
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: that much. I put my name behind it. I wrote it.

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01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have any type of a ghostwriter, and Sean

1711
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: Hannity wrote the forward because he believed in what it said.

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Speaker 1: So sheep no More. The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.

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01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: I'll teach you how to divide your life into sectors,

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01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: and then you take those sectors and determine what an

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01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: attacker would do and how you defend against it. Sheep

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Speaker 1: no More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. Merry

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Speaker 1: Christmas to everybody. I can't wait to see again. I'll

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01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: be back here on the twenty eighth. Check it out.

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01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: Come back. We'll have a great show. And Merry Christmas.

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01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: Thank you Lord for sending your son Jesus down for us,

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01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: and I'll see you next time. On the Sean Hannity

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Speaker 1: radio show, The truth has arrived.