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Speaker 6: Let's say, my ny is Will and now I'm your host.

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Speaker 6: I'm the editor in charge of what's called video post.

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Speaker 4: You are totally coming on stage as fresh Boy at

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, which is great. But no, I'd never in

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Speaker 3: There's really much of a stretch. In fact, they saw me.

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Speaker 7: Out on the back lot, you know, beating some guy's

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Speaker 7: Yeah. They from what I remember, they didn't want me

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Speaker 7: It's little Brother. I'm like, wow, this is great. The

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it was you. Guys were nice, but it

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Speaker 1: All this time we've never really known, We've never really

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Speaker 6: Which was unfortunately perfectly in keeping with mental illness at

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Speaker 1: And so it was it's really nice to hear, like

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Speaker 1: He ended up being hospitalized for a month and was

446
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Speaker 1: put on lithium and the but that took some time,

447
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: Like he was taken to a mental health hospital, and

448
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: it took some time for them for him to get

449
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: a diagnosis. And like Will was saying, I think the

450
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: adults really didn't know. They didn't know whether you know,

451
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: the discussions we have now around mental health are it

452
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: is night and day.

453
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: It used to just be it was. It also felt

454
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: like a violation to talk about it.

455
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's you know, it's a private thing, and

456
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knew how to handle it or

457
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: what to say. And so, you know, they didn't really know.

458
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: So we didn't know what was going on. We just knew, Hey,

459
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: this guy's coming in, this guy Kenny is here.

460
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 5: Now, well, we knew the.

461
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 4: Show must go on. You know, that attitude of like

462
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 4: the show must go on was such a thing, which

463
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: is just you know, that's what when we just watched

464
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 4: the episode and for the first time, and it's it's.

465
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 5: Bizarre because it could have so easily.

466
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 4: They could have easily just had you come in as

467
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,719
Speaker 4: you know, Harvor something some other name and just like

468
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: not reference. But it's interesting that they gave you all

469
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: of his lines. You're calling Ben Baboon, which is what

470
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 4: that character had done before. You know, it's like, it's

471
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 4: it's clearly Harley Kiner. So it's a very bizarre choice

472
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 4: that only could have happened in the nineties when there

473
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Speaker 4: were no reruns.

474
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Speaker 5: Well, what makes it even more bizarre is that our

475
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 5: show was the king of rewrites, writing everything all the

476
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 5: time up to and including in front of the audience,

477
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 5: and then this happens and it's like, we're not going

478
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 5: to write anything, like wait, what you do? That's all

479
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 5: you do?

480
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Speaker 6: So it was very strange, just every kind of and again,

481
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 6: there is a very real possibility that the shock we

482
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 6: felt as actors, they felt in the writer's room, where

483
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 6: it was just this kind of everyone got into this

484
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 6: weird tunnel vision of all right, put the show on,

485
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 6: what the hell just happened, let's figure out next steps,

486
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 6: and because nobody's kind of processing what actually took place.

487
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 5: So that's true too. That's that could be true as.

488
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 6: Well, is that we again it goes back to one

489
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 6: of the overriding themes of this podcast. When you're a kid,

490
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 6: you think the adults know everything that's going on and

491
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 6: they know how to control everything, and they yeah, exactly,

492
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 6: they are.

493
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 5: We're thank god they're here because they and they don't either.

494
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 6: Everybody's kind of stumbling through, especially something like this, which

495
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 6: was so out of left field that it could be

496
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 6: everybody just was was drop shocked again, had no idea

497
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 6: what was going on.

498
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 7: And it was this episode that he had the breakdown

499
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 7: on when yeah, like.

500
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Speaker 5: The day you got there, it was either the day, Yeah,

501
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: that either.

502
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Speaker 6: Happened in the morning on Thursday and then you were

503
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Speaker 6: there for rehearsal Thursday night, or that happened on Thursday

504
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 6: and you were there Friday morning.

505
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 7: That's right, because but yeah, I remember I read in

506
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 7: the morning and then they brought me back that same

507
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 7: day for producers.

508
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, oh, that must have been Monday. Excuse me.

509
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 6: It would have been Friday and Monday, so they probably

510
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 6: had the weekend to figure out what they do.

511
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 5: But again they'd have the weekend to rewrite, I know.

512
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: So they just probably went keep it as it is,

513
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 6: brought you in Monday, and then that was it.

514
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: So gosh, so strange.

515
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Were you told that this was maybe going to be

516
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: a recurring role, did you?

517
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: Did you have any idea?

518
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought they did tell me that that this

519
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 7: is one of two episod sodes I'm probably going to

520
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 7: be in, But they were a little bit up in

521
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 7: the air, you know. And and you know, I worked

522
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 7: enough at that point not to get my hopes up

523
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 7: to go, I'm going to be on the show, you know, regularly.

524
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 7: But I was hoping, of course, you know, it would

525
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 7: be at least a few more episodes or a couple

526
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 7: more episodes.

527
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: But right, wow, okay, And so do you have any

528
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: real specific memories from shooting in front of the audience

529
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: or working with Blake and Ethan? Like you said, you guys,

530
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: the three of you got along very well and kind

531
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Speaker 1: of fell into a natural rhythm together. Do you have

532
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: any specific favorite memories from that week.

533
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 7: So long ago? But but no, I just think, you know,

534
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 7: the thing that we had together, and I think Ben,

535
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 7: you know, was really great. And the other actor I

536
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 7: can't think of his name as far as.

537
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: Writer or strong. Yes, this name right here?

538
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, my god, you look great, by the way. So

539
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 7: but no, I really, you know, I was a little

540
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 7: nervous stepping into a character that was already there. So

541
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 7: I was really focused on my lines and trying to

542
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 7: to uh, you know, put in a really good performance

543
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 7: and fit in and you know and make a good

544
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 7: impression and all. But but no, I was just kind

545
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 7: of I was really uh impressed by everyone's professionalism and

546
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 7: how well you guys were already you know, what a

547
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 7: good team you were and this was season two, correct, Yeah, yeah,

548
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 7: so it was great. It was stepping into such a

549
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 7: professional stage and the teacher was great, you know. And

550
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Speaker 7: I think the scene with the motorcycle was my favorite.

551
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

552
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 7: It was like, you know, goofing around a little bit,

553
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 7: and the teacher looked at me once with his eyes.

554
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 7: I was like, oh my god, this guy is for real,

555
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 7: you know, and uh and uh And I think that

556
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 7: was probably my favorite scene. With the baseball bat, that's

557
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 7: cool and the beautiful Harley I got to sit on too,

558
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 7: that wass.

559
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 5: That we talk about all the time. Yeah.

560
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had you watch the episode so that you

561
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: were familiar with the episode before you came on the podcast.

562
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: Watching it.

563
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: Now, when was the last time you saw Did you

564
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: see it when it originally aired? Have you ever seen

565
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: it since.

566
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 7: I've seen clips of it, I think, you know, on

567
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 7: on cable, you know, late at night or something. I'm like, hey,

568
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 7: there I am. And then you know, when my my students,

569
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 7: I was a teacher's assistant for a while, when my students,

570
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 7: you know, got a kick out of it. You know,

571
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 7: I would go back and watch it and go, wow,

572
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 7: that was pretty fun. You know, that's great. I haven't

573
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 7: seen it for a long time. I watched it last

574
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 7: night at the house.

575
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Speaker 1: It is And what was that like for you? What

576
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: did you think about it? You know, nearly thirty years later,

577
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: I forgot how.

578
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 7: Many characters were in it. I was like, I totally forgotten.

579
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 7: I mean for you, for you all, what was that

580
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 7: kind of a standout episode in that what in that

581
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 7: regard like Nancy Carrigan was in it, and there was

582
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 7: so many different things happening in that episode or yeah,

583
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 7: that's what.

584
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: We couldn't believe that all of these all of these

585
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: things happened in the same episode. Was like you came

586
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: in playing Harley, which is already made it upizarre week

587
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 4: Will went off and did this whole extra scene with

588
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: Nancy Kerrigan in New York made it a very bizarre episode,

589
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: and then also just it's a very dramatic episode. You know,

590
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: it ends with like this heartfelt moment between me and

591
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: mister Turner, and it was just like, oh, this is

592
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: the beginning of that whole relationship. So it ends up

593
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: being a seminal episode in a lot of different ways.

594
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: That's what That's what.

595
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 7: I was watching when I was watching it last night.

596
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 7: I mean, your character had this kind of real, you know,

597
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 7: enlightenment or it was going through this struggle about you know,

598
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 7: Marie dumb and stuff. And I was like, wow, maybe

599
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 7: maybe I should go back and watch all the seasons

600
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 7: if it was just deep, if all the episodes of Great.

601
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it got deep, man, I mean and

602
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 4: this is kind of the beginning of that.

603
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

604
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: So do you remember then after the taping how you

605
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: were told or were you told that you weren't going

606
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: to be coming back, or did you just not get

607
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: that phone call for the second episode?

608
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 7: Yeah? I did not get the phone call. And like

609
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 7: I said, you know, they they he was really nice.

610
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 7: You know, he wasn't promising anything. Mich sure, but you know,

611
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 7: they liked me, and it did seem like I was

612
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 7: going to come back for at least one more episode,

613
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 7: but just just never got that call. And and you know,

614
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 7: I was working on other stuff, which was great. I

615
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 7: wasn't just sitting.

616
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Around waiting exactly, which is nice.

617
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 7: But I knew something happened with the character. And I

618
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 7: guess I didn't really research it looked too far into it,

619
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 7: but I knew there was a possibility that maybe he

620
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 7: would come back as well. You know, yeah the actor.

621
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: Had you done live like a multi camera live audience

622
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: show before, Yeah, I did.

623
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 7: I did a show called Teach in nineteen ninety. We did, uh,

624
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 7: I think we did thirteen episodes.

625
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: I remember Teach. I remember Teach. Yeah, absolutely.

626
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 6: It was like coming up was it was almost like

627
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 6: a welcome Back Cotter kind of Yeah.

628
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it was ahead of the class kind of.

629
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 7: Welcome back Cotter. It was like a dead Poet Society

630
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 7: meets Eddie Murphy meets Welcome Back Cotter kind of thing.

631
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 5: Oh I remember Teach absolutely.

632
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

633
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 7: Yeah. So we ran like I think six episodes and

634
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 7: then and then we are lead in was a Red

635
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 7: Fox show and then he had a heart attack and

636
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 7: unfortunately and that killed us as well. So yeah, but yeah,

637
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 7: so I've done a you know, a fair amount of

638
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 7: sitcom before that, you know, with the live oriens, and

639
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 7: there's nothing like that, you know, I mean it's the best.

640
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, man, they're still I think it's almost like

641
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 7: there's a lot of them come back in the last

642
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 7: like five years or so. It seems like it more

643
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 7: you know, sitcom for camera.

644
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: That's what we're hoping for, right Well.

645
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but please please.

646
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: We've been I was I was just doing some press

647
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: for a movie I directed, and it was one of

648
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: the things they asked me. It was like, do you

649
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: think there are going to be more multi camera comedies

650
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: coming out?

651
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, this must be.

652
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: In the in the universe, because it was it was

653
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: it must be something people are talking about. And Will

654
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: and I are both like we love it so much

655
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: as a medium, and I'd love to see more of them.

656
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Kenny, you have a very full IMDb page.

657
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Does Boy Meets World ever come up for you? I

658
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: know you mentioned for your students when you were a

659
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: teacher's assistant, which I'd also love to get into. But yeah,

660
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: are you ever out and about somewhere and somebody stops you?

661
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: And of all the things they could mention they mentioned

662
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World.

663
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 7: No, not in a long time, maybe about fifteen years ago,

664
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 7: twenty years ago, you know, when it was still you know, they.

665
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 5: Would rerun it and still on reruns.

666
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, still and reruns you know at the supermarket,

667
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 7: you know, twenty somethings would go, oh my god, that's Harley.

668
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 7: That's Harley. And which is great because I only did

669
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 7: one episode, so you know, after I after I had

670
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 7: done it in air, after a few years, I'm like,

671
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 7: no one's going to remember me just from that one episode.

672
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 7: I mean, but but yeah, but people did recognize me,

673
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 7: you know, back then, but not not much anymore though.

674
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: So tell me about your your time as a teacher's

675
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: assistant and what is that like a second career you

676
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: have that you love and tell me tell me. We

677
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: talk about that a lot on our podcast, about actors

678
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: who have other passions and pursue other jobs, and we're

679
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: always so supportive of that because you know, most of

680
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: the time you hear about an actor doing something else,

681
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: and in the press, it's presented like a sad story, like, oh,

682
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: it's so sad they're doing this other thing, and you're

683
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: a lawyer.

684
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: Now I'm sorry, exactly.

685
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 7: What two hundred thousand a year as yeah, exactly.

686
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.

687
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: So tell me about your teaching work.

688
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 7: Well, it was a got. I got the job around

689
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 7: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight when everything crashed,

690
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 7: the market crash and it was the Great Recession, and

691
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 7: I got worried and things slowed down for everybody. But

692
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 7: I was also at that age where I wasn't the

693
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 7: young guy anymore and I wasn't the dad yet, so

694
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 7: I was at that hall. So I was like, maybe

695
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 7: I should, you know, find something I can have just

696
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 7: for some some extra income. So my friend worked at

697
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: a nursing school actually was called West Coast University. It's

698
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 7: a private nursing school credited, so you know, it was

699
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 7: very very popular at the time. Everyone was running into

700
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 7: nursing right around that. Sure, So I just became a

701
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: teacher's assistant and I helped them design study guides and

702
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 7: kind of like a proctor. I would sit in on

703
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 7: test and which was great because I wasn't the teacher

704
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: that theyd of hated. I was the in between, you know,

705
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 7: that the guy they kind of liked, and it was fun. Yeah.

706
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 7: So I did that for probably about seven to ten

707
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 7: years and uh, and those kids were still you know,

708
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: watching Boy Meets World and you know, a lot of

709
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 7: the shows. So so it was fun and I liked

710
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 7: it a lot. I got a lot out of it

711
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 7: in terms of helping these people, you know, get their

712
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 7: their BSA in nursing, which which isn't easy. They wore tests,

713
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 7: it's hard. So yeah, yeah, and it would it would

714
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 7: get their BSA in three years.

715
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: So it was.

716
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 7: It was. It was an accelerated program. Yeah. So there's

717
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 7: a lot of stress, a lot of heartbreak and disappointment

718
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 7: when they didn't pass because their parents would put so

719
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 7: much money, you know, because it was the program itself

720
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 7: was a lot of money. It was like, you know,

721
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So so it was great.

722
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 7: It was really rewarding and gave me a little, you know,

723
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 7: a little side income. And then things picked back up

724
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 7: and then I got back into the young dad and

725
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 7: that's kind of.

726
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: So tell us about what you're doing now and where

727
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: we can find you. I know, all of our dear

728
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: listeners are going to want to know more about you.

729
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: So what's going on in your life now?

730
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 7: Well? I did a I did a Hallmark Christmas movie.

731
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's what Will wants to do?

732
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 7: My dream?

733
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: My dream?

734
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: Did you not like Christmas? And then find Christmas? Is

735
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 5: that what happened? Like this is not?

736
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden like wait a minute,

737
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: my heart's melted.

738
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my gosh, that's awesome.

739
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: You know, I haven't watched many, but once I booked

740
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 7: the job last I think last summer, I started going

741
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 7: back and watching them, and it's true, it grabs your heart.

742
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 7: You're like, oh my god, these movies are so good.

743
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 7: You're thinking, you know, it's like Hallmarks, you know, but

744
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 7: but no, it was. It was a great It was

745
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 7: a good one. I think we got a lot of

746
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 7: good feedback on it was called the Princeton Pauper Christmas.

747
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah where did you shoot? Did you shoot it in Canada?

748
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 7: Or was it we shot it here? We shot it here,

749
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 7: But they do they a lot of a lot of

750
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 7: the crew. They shoot a lot of them up there.

751
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: But no, imagine that there's one that's actually Christmas Town

752
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: where they make.

753
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: All the Hallmark presents.

754
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: This Christmas Town.

755
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly exactly, but we we did shoot it. It

756
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 7: was a fictitious town. I think I forget the name

757
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 7: of it, but we shot it in a thousand Oaks

758
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 7: at one of the Marriott's or double trees up there.

759
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 7: But they most of the movie took place in this

760
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 7: hotel where the prince and the pauper switched places. That's

761
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 7: a famous old story, the Prince of Pauper. So they

762
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 7: had the whole hotel locked down for like two weeks

763
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 7: and we shot the movie, the whole movie in two weeks.

764
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 7: So it was great. You know, we didn't have to

765
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: you know, go to different locations around the city. We

766
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 7: set up camped there and it was fun. It was

767
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 7: a great experience. Everyone was great.

768
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: So that's wonderful. So do you also have a social

769
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: media I do.

770
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 7: It's Kenny Johnston seven seven seven at Instagram. Okay, person,

771
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 7: the I G at the I G Twitter. I'm not

772
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 7: I'm not too too up on it yet, but you know,

773
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 7: I'm more of a lurker in Twitter.

774
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: That's I am.

775
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 7: I don't have anything to apologize for you. So it's hopefully.

776
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 7: And there's also a movie. It's it's getting really good

777
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 7: reviews on on demand. It's one of the high one

778
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 7: of the best rented movies. It's called The last Deal. Okay,

779
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 7: and it's a great story. It's it's about one of

780
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 7: the last marijuana dealers that had his own a legal

781
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 7: practice before everything became legal, and he was he the

782
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 7: the bureaucrat. He couldn't get a legal license because all

783
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 7: of the companies already had their license and they didn't

784
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 7: want any more to get any license. So he made

785
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 7: one last deal and it didn't go very well.

786
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 5: So it's a great idea. Yeah, great idea.

787
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 7: Yeah. So that's it.

788
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: That is not that is not a Hallmark movie.

789
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 7: That is not a.

790
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 6: Christmas marijuana Christmas Cannabis has got to do one last

791
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: deal before he hangs it out.

792
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: I don't see that yet.

793
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 7: Nice the Hallmark people don't know about that, that one.

794
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, check that out if if you

795
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 7: have any of the listeners are into watching, you know,

796
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 7: sitting home on a Friday going what to rent, what

797
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 7: to rest? Last Deal and it's very entertaining.

798
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 2: Great.

799
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Well, my final question for you is, almost thirty years later,

800
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: how do you reflect on your one week as Harley

801
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: klink Kiner.

802
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 7: It was a blast. I mean watching it last night,

803
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 7: you know you always look back at your work. I'm like,

804
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 7: what am I doing. I'm here really just.

805
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, but it was we thought you were great.

806
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 7: Yeah you were, Thank you guys, But it was it

807
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 7: was a lot of fun, you know, and I haven't

808
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 7: worked that much so you know all the jobs like that.

809
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 7: You know, at that age you're just like wide eyed

810
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 7: and just you know, so there, you know. So uh.

811
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 7: But but the response over the years of just the

812
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 7: show in general, you know, the success of the show

813
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 7: and what it meant to you know, that generation into

814
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 7: so many people. I was just really happy to be

815
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 7: a part of that. You know.

816
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, we are really happy that you were a part

817
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: of it as well, and we are so happy that

818
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: you took your time out today to spend this time

819
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: with us. You are a huge part of Boy Meets World, Cannon,

820
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and and in our memories.

821
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, it's so great to hear the inside of that. Yeah.

822
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 7: Really have no idea that all that was going.

823
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: On, I know, And it's crazy that in twenty twenty

824
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: three is how is where you're learning about?

825
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: You know, like it's so funny, it'szy think back.

826
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 7: I'm like, whatever did happen?

827
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: What was going on with that?

828
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 7: Wow?

829
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: Well doing really well? He's great. Yeah, doing really well now,

830
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: which is which is awesome. So he's in a great place.

831
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you again, Kenny, thank you for

832
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: joining us.

833
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 7: Well, thanks for having me.

834
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, good to see you, Kenny.

835
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: Great to see you. See you again.

836
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 7: Take care.

837
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we could get Will and Kenny into a Hallmark

838
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: movie together.

839
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

840
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 4: Will plays the one who loves Christmas. He plays the

841
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: one who hates Christmas, and we.

842
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 6: Switch can type where I'm the one trying to do

843
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 6: the last marijuana.

844
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, I've what if we what if we

845
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: switch out Kenny with Danny halfway through?

846
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: I like it.

847
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: I like the same jacket on guys.

848
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: Something occurred to me while while we were talking to him.

849
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: I think I think part of the reason that they

850
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: didn't rewrite it is that they were hoping Danny would come.

851
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: Back, right.

852
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: I think I think they were that you think, yes,

853
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: I think they were hoping. They hired they hired Kenny,

854
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 4: they brought him in, and I think part of them

855
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: was hoping that Dan because they didn't know what was

856
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: going on, and they just thought, oh, he just needs

857
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: a day to rest or a couple of days. They

858
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 4: were hoping to just have rehearsal with Kenny and then

859
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: maybe not have to rewrite the whole script if Danny

860
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: could come back. And you know, I think I think,

861
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: I think it's it's it's it's actually not a horrible

862
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: idea at the time, because they were, you know, they

863
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: didn't know how serious it was.

864
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 5: They could have just been like.

865
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Just were probably in touch with him and or the hospital,

866
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: and they probably were still trying to figure out exactly

867
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: what it was, so it could have just been a

868
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: we don't know, right, and if you're getting a we

869
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: don't know, you think you fingers crossed he's coming out

870
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: of there.

871
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 6: I texted Kendall during the conversation just to see if

872
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 6: there's any Hey, do you remember this, and he said,

873
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 6: I honestly don't know. I think it was he said,

874
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 6: I don't remember any of it, and I think.

875
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: A burly Kendall doesn't remember anything about.

876
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 6: It, he says, because I asked him, I said, do

877
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 6: you what was the thinking behind not rewriting and bringing

878
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 6: in a new actor? He said, I honestly, I can't remember.

879
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 6: And I think I think all of us were in

880
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 6: such a blur. It was such a daze that it

881
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 6: just went by like it just everyone was kind of,

882
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 6: but it.

883
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: Just doesn't because you know, we've we've we just watched

884
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: two twenty and you know, obviously they wrote to the

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Speaker 4: fact that Danny was not there for.

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Speaker 5: The next episode.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so that's what's so Yeah, that's what's intense. It's like,

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Speaker 4: why didn't they address it, you know, three days earlier.

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Speaker 6: And I think they were today it's going to be

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Speaker 6: he'll be back tomorrow and we he had food poisoning

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Speaker 6: or you know, it's like he just maybe he did.

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Speaker 4: He also wouldn't be horrible for poor Kenny, who then

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Speaker 4: would have been told, no, thanks.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, here's to make it to tape night.

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Speaker 4: We're going to bring in the old guy anyway. Yeah, yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: it's you know, this industry is just brutal.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's your friend's baby. It's show business. You know, that's

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Speaker 6: your great It's really really what happens. You know, they

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Speaker 6: just yeah, the show must go on is the nice

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Speaker 6: way of saying that. But the problem is there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of people left in the wake when that happens sometimes.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, thank you all for joining us for

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