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Speaker 1: All here. Welcome in the State of the Fish, the

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Speaker 1: weekly Marlins space.

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Speaker 2: Here Fish on the first who got Eli here today?

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Speaker 2: I've got myself. Of course, we'll have other Fish on

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Speaker 2: first numbers cycling in here throughout the night. But another

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Speaker 2: good week to look at and reviewed. Month of June

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Speaker 2: has just been very, very kind to the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: And as you.

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Speaker 2: See at the tweet pinned at the top of the

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Speaker 2: page here, that is a wrap up of an important

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Speaker 2: forty game stretch for the Marlins where they played mostly

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Speaker 2: inferior talent throughout those forty games. And it's over and

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Speaker 2: the Marlins came out pretty hot. They went into that

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Speaker 2: and twenty five to fifteen in a forty game stretch.

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Speaker 2: We would have to check the stats, but that might

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Speaker 1: Quite some time.

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Speaker 2: That it's it's only gonna get tougher from here. There

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Speaker 2: and clip on the tweet, there are some good teams

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Speaker 1: Lies ahead for the Marlins. But we'll recap the week ahead.

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Speaker 1: The first here with Eli to see Mariners first intra

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Speaker 2: Lost for the Marlins on the year. I actually just

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Speaker 2: looked up the record for the Marlins inter league play

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Speaker 2: this season so far, sixteen of five. I did not

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Speaker 1: Wizardo just did not have his stuff.

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Speaker 2: He has been pretty bad on the road this year

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Speaker 1: Really saved that series. They're excellent at him.

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Speaker 2: We're sure to see more from him now with all

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Speaker 1: Know, they may be a sleeping giant out in the.

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Speaker 2: West and the American League. There, they're a lot better

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Speaker 1: That National Series.

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Speaker 3: Right as you touched on with inter league play, Historically,

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Speaker 3: even obviously beyond this year, the Marlins have been one

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Speaker 3: of all is that now through seven starts in his

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Speaker 1: The Marlins finally.

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Speaker 2: Not so much got the Luis Castillo, but they didn't

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Speaker 1: And that was prevalent in this National Series.

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Speaker 3: In this particular start, though it was not on the defense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Amya is my guy. He's more

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Speaker 5: In his first game in front of his dad Valley

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I know, don't expect it to be probably

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Speaker 1: Which is super good. I'm super proud.

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Speaker 1: If he stays, he stays, and you leave Trevor in

441
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Speaker 1: Triple A for a little while, whatever it may be.

442
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Speaker 5: When he gets healthy and he's fully back, what would

443
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Speaker 5: be the wait and why are they waiting on calling

444
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Speaker 5: up Patrick Monteverde.

445
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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old.

446
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Speaker 3: We're reaching a point where that is an interesting conversation

447
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 3: to have been. He's been obviously awesome at Pensacola this

448
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: year and he is fully stretched out to start and

449
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: this particular thing, he's not lined up the way that

450
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Speaker 3: the schedule has lined up. He's not on regular rest

451
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Speaker 3: for tomorrow. So like in that, in this instance, you

452
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Speaker 3: can understand why they didn't put him in this situation.

453
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Speaker 3: The question is, I think he got to begin to

454
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Speaker 3: ask that beyond this game, but beyond Monday is what

455
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Speaker 3: they do with that spot. We'll see what the update

456
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Speaker 3: is on Trevor, because I think my understanding is he's

457
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Speaker 3: going to try to resume throwing tomorrow on Monday, and

458
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll disclose that during the injury update. Whether

459
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Speaker 3: or not he did that, it is a different conversation.

460
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Speaker 3: If he this is a significant setback for him and

461
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Speaker 3: he's not ready to resume throwing yet and you know

462
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Speaker 3: you have to fill multiple starts, then I think you

463
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Speaker 3: do it to talk about mons Verde. It's either that

464
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Speaker 3: or the other option is stretching out Brian hoeing again.

465
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Speaker 3: So Monday is a big day in terms of the

466
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Speaker 3: injury updates, seeing how long Hoeing can go. As Grant

467
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Speaker 3: touch on, he has not gone past thirty four pitches

468
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Speaker 3: in the game since early May. I'm sure they're gonna

469
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Speaker 3: stretch him out beyond that in this game, and as

470
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Speaker 3: long as he's kind of effective in that time, then

471
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Speaker 3: it's probably Hoeing, even more so than mons Verde, that

472
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Speaker 3: gets the first DIBs at that rotation spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't see it. I mean, I

474
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Speaker 1: just don't see.

475
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Speaker 5: I love Brian Hohan, you guys know, I like that guy,

476
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Speaker 5: but I just don't see that there's a route for

477
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Speaker 5: him to become, you know, a guy like I said before,

478
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Speaker 5: as a guy who you can count on to go

479
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Speaker 5: out there and give you a quality start. There's really

480
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's in the cards. I mean, four

481
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Speaker 5: or five innings, it would be a win for him.

482
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Speaker 5: But yeah, when we're talking about a guy that you

483
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Speaker 5: need at the back end that's gonna eat innings and

484
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Speaker 5: get out quickly like you just said, Eli, and save

485
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 5: that bullpen like as good as that bullpen has been.

486
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Speaker 1: If they keep.

487
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Speaker 5: Going like this, and they keep going with two three innings,

488
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Speaker 5: Behoeing and whatever else, it may be like there's gonna

489
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Speaker 5: be a time where that bullpen gets kind of worn out,

490
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Speaker 5: especially with with Sandy not being able to be counted

491
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Speaker 5: on right now and and only only one picture really

492
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Speaker 5: in the rotation that can be counted on right now

493
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Speaker 5: to give you a quality start, You're gonna wear out

494
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Speaker 5: your bullpen and they're gonna be less effective through the stretch.

495
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see

496
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Speaker 1: what they do with this rotation.

497
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Speaker 5: Man, it's not something that I thought we would say,

498
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Speaker 5: Like even as early as the end.

499
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Speaker 1: Of last year, this is not something I thought we

500
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Speaker 1: would say. I thought the rotation was the strength of

501
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Speaker 1: this team. It doesn't.

502
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Speaker 5: It definitely isn't right now because of injuries and everything

503
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Speaker 5: else that has happened. And now you're kind of seeing

504
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Speaker 5: that the depth that you thought the Marlins did have,

505
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 5: they don't really have it that much.

506
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Speaker 1: And it's it's definitely a concern. Like I said before,

507
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Speaker 1: So you gotta get up the.

508
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Speaker 5: Guys that are gonna give you the meaningful innings.

509
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Speaker 1: And I think Monte Verdy is that guy.

510
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 5: So yeah, I know it doesn't line up now, but

511
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 5: there's got to be a route to get this guy up.

512
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 5: Like you feel the start with huling and then maybe

513
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: next week I would say, you know, you've got to

514
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: really start looking at that.

515
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Speaker 2: There's one very unattracted bosh and the most people right

516
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: now that could very well be a reality soon. Johnny

517
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Speaker 2: Cuato is going through those rehabs bad stop a stop

518
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Speaker 2: and stop and stop.

519
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Speaker 1: He's got to come back up at some point.

520
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Speaker 2: He has to, and he will probably have to take

521
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Speaker 2: a rotation spot. Seems like they almost have no other option.

522
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Speaker 3: With Guato. It's at least one more minor league rehab

523
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Speaker 3: start before he's and we're close to being stretched out again.

524
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Speaker 3: But his performance has just been disastrous. Look bad in

525
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Speaker 3: spring training when he's pitching through the injury, and it

526
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: looked bad during his initial rehab assignment when he was

527
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Speaker 3: supposedly recovered from the injury, and now the second injury,

528
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Speaker 3: the ankle injury. On his way back from that. I mean,

529
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Speaker 3: he's faced thirty something batters at double A and he

530
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Speaker 3: struck out one guy one at a thirty something. He's

531
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 3: allowed more more barrels and more homers and strikeouts. So

532
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 3: like he is. I think I touched on this on

533
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Ryan Selessinger's podcast yesterday. Is that with Quita like last

534
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: year he had success, but he did it by a

535
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: lot of pitching to contact. He did it despite his

536
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 3: diminishing stuff. And it's such a fine line for guys

537
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: at that stage of their career when they're not missing bats,

538
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: when there's stuff isn't what it used to be, when

539
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: they're kind of throwing the kitchen sink at it. The

540
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: fine line between being successful at that and also being

541
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Speaker 3: out of the league. It's so minute, just because you

542
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: can't get away with mistakes and you can't overpower any

543
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: hitters when your fastball is only sitting in the high

544
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: eighties low nineties, even from the right side. With him,

545
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: there's no reason to based on what we have seen

546
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Speaker 3: from him all year to this point and even recent

547
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: during this rehabit siment, there's just no reason to believe

548
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: he's going to be any good. There's no reason to

549
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: believe he's going to be different than the uninspiring triple

550
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: A options that I kind of touched on, like how

551
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: much better is Johnny Quato than Devin Smeltzer. At this point,

552
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: I can't say confidently that he is an improvement on that.

553
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: We'll tell you one start at a time. I believe

554
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: his next rehap start is likely going to be Wednesday Wednesday,

555
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: and we'll see whether that's in Pensacola, whether it's in Jacksonville.

556
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: At this stage, there's just there's no reason to believe

557
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: he'll be successful. I do agree with Grant that he'll

558
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: be back at some point. You know, they're going to

559
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 3: put him on the roster and find out what they have,

560
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: but he is not guaranteed to stay with this organization

561
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Speaker 3: for any extended length of time if he struggles. When

562
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: he does make it back to the big leagues, and

563
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 3: it's going to be a short leash, and I think

564
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: they're going to be willing to eat that money and

565
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: get rid of him because there's no evident value that

566
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Speaker 3: he provides at this stage given what he's shown. He

567
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: just looks like he looks completely washed up at this stage.

568
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: And you just hope that the further he gets away

569
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: from his injury and that more that he just continues

570
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: to throw that something clicks with him. But it's just

571
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: it could not be any more discouraging. But he's shown

572
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: so far.

573
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the last rehab start he had, well, the

574
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: one the one where he got hurt.

575
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, he hurt his ankle on a playoff first base.

576
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Speaker 5: That was probably the worst I've seen him, honestly, Like

577
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 5: he was real bad and I think Hell had like

578
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: four home runs or something like that, and this is

579
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 5: triple A batters. Like one of the guys that he

580
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: was facing, he gave up two home runs to the.

581
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Speaker 1: Same guy the guy had into home run all year.

582
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Speaker 5: So it's it's like Eli said, it's time to admit,

583
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 5: like these these signings that they made, they one with

584
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: one and that's Yuli Gurriel. He's been really good. These

585
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: older guys that are hoping to bring back into form.

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 5: They they did it with Julie Guriel. They did not

587
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: do it with Jean Sigura, and they death did not

588
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 5: do it with Johnny Quato. So there's going to be

589
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 5: a time where the Marlins needs to look at who's

590
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 5: providing us with.

591
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Value and there's I don't think there's.

592
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: A route that exists to me from what we've seen

593
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: so far with Queto that would say that this guy

594
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: can get back to what he previously was with with

595
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 5: other teams, including the Reds, as you know Grant, So, yeah,

596
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 5: this is this is like end of the line, career

597
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 5: defining kind of like, Okay, this is what he is

598
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 5: now as he likes that kind of just not effective anymore.

599
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 5: He has doesn't have value for a major League baseball

600
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 5: team now, and I don't think there's a path for

601
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: him to gain that back.

602
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: So I know there's money invested, you got to be.

603
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: Willing to cut pay and that that's exactly what the

604
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: Marlins are gonna have to admit to in this case.

605
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: Well, he's on a one year deal, which makes it easier,

606
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: and you mentioned it. He's not gonna get anywhere back close.

607
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: To his former ways. And of course I'm familiar with

608
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: his Reds days, having grown up watching him in the city.

609
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: But even just last year when he was to Chicago

610
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: White Sox, he had a good season, like that was

611
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: a legitimately good season for a starting pitcher. We were

612
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: doing all those blind who would you rather have polls

613
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: on Twitter where it was Pablo Lopez's numbers from last

614
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: year in Cueto's and Quato statistically was a pretty good picture,

615
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: and he just fell off, like plain and simple. And

616
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, maybe Isaac Azeu's theory of the world baseball

617
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: plastic is actually coming to fruition. I don't know that

618
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: could have its own spaces or its own article one day.

619
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: But either way, it's gonna be very interesting to see

620
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: what happens with this rotation, so many injuries. I know

621
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking about Sandy ghost ilesint.

622
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: I even thought that that was.

623
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Speaker 2: Maybe something that they could do to get his confidence back,

624
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: just give him some time to just focus on himself.

625
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: But at this point you cannot afford to lose that whatsoever.

626
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens this week.

627
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: Howing tomorrow. I don't know who Tuesday is. Who's Tuesday?

628
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Wednesday is supposed to be? Andy is Tuesday?

629
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: Give me a moment, I will find that.

630
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: I just checked. I think they have a TVV on it.

631
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Speaker 1: I can't remember who should be. It actually might be Fury,

632
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: It might be.

633
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, he pitched on Wednesday, so that will be

634
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Speaker 3: Fury on Tuesday.

635
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: It was whoever was before Sandy. I couldn't remember the

636
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: off they threw me off. But well, we'll get to

637
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: the week ahead now here.

638
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: Briefly, I'm not gonna go too far ahead on that

639
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: thirty four games.

640
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Since that we've got pinned the cop there. That's just

641
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: too far. But this week.

642
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: It gets tougher, for sure, but the opportunity gets a

643
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: struggling Pirates team is really good, but the Blue Jays definitely.

644
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: Postes through it. I know he said that the Marrows

645
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: are sixteen to five and inter league plays so far.

646
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

647
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, it would be a very improbable win if the

648
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: Marlwin's gounda win tomorrow.

649
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: J Brios has.

650
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: Been amazing this year for the Blue Jays. He's had

651
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: awesome last month. He should pose a threat to the

652
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: Marlins for sure. I don't know how well they're going

653
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: to hit him, and even if they do hit him,

654
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: what is going to happen with Brian Elling and whoever

655
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: comes out of the bullpen.

656
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't want mark up guaranteed L's, but I would

657
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Speaker 1: think that would be definitely a top.

658
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Speaker 2: Five most probable win if the Marlins win tomorrow. But

659
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Speaker 2: you got Yer and you've got Sandy in the next

660
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Speaker 2: two games, So it should be interesting that a four

661
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Speaker 2: game set against Pittsburgh Pirates, who while they've had a

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Speaker 2: really good season so far, and they have an incredible

663
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Speaker 2: collection of young talent, and I believe the Marlins will

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Speaker 2: have to see Mitch Keller during that series, who has

665
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Speaker 2: a cy Young case, or at least did.

666
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Speaker 1: He's kind of fallen off recently, but that they're struggling

667
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Speaker 1: right now. The Pirates are definitely struggling.

668
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Speaker 2: They're playing in a weekend out Central that rebuilding Cincinnati

669
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Speaker 2: Red might have a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: They just struggled against the Brewers this weekend. The Pirates

671
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: are falling off. It's definitely another opportunity for the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: You know, the last two years we've said, all the

673
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Speaker 2: Pirates here, they come the schedule ready to ruin the

674
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Speaker 2: Marlin season, stick.

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Speaker 1: The dagger right in them, just like they kind of did.

676
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Speaker 2: In twenty one and twenty two. But this year it's

677
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Speaker 2: a whole different vibe. I feel like where the Marlins could.

678
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Speaker 1: Really use that to elevate themselves. And the Pirates are

679
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Speaker 1: just playing terrible baseball right now.

680
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Speaker 2: And while a four game set is that play a

681
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Speaker 2: chance to pick themselves back up.

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Speaker 1: Take three out of four in a four game set's

683
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Speaker 1: going to be a huge for either team.

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Speaker 2: And while series could definitely be as split, as Eli

685
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Speaker 2: likes to say, always if you're predicting a four game set,

686
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Speaker 2: always go for the split.

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Speaker 1: Taken three or four in.

688
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Speaker 2: The series would be huge for either team to get

689
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Speaker 2: the Pirates right back in that central race to really

690
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Speaker 2: elevate the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: To the New Heights.

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Speaker 2: So Eli and Alex as well, what are you guys

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Speaker 2: really looking at in this next seven days for Miami?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? With the Blue Jays, they're just a fascinating team,

695
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Speaker 3: even though they're there's in contention still. I think a

696
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Speaker 3: lot of people would categorize them as a disappointing team

697
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Speaker 3: to the stage in the season. They have such a

698
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Speaker 3: on paper or they have as good a lineup as

699
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Speaker 3: you could put together, but it hasn't been clicking on

700
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Speaker 3: all cylinders at the same time as somebody that has

701
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Speaker 3: Vladimir Guerrero Junior that had him in my fantasy team

702
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: for most of the year before getting tired of him.

703
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Speaker 3: He's not quite the player that he was a couple

704
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Speaker 3: of years ago, even though he's still in the middle

705
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Speaker 3: of that lineup. It's I mean, they have a couple

706
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Speaker 3: of stars that are carrying them at one time or another,

707
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Speaker 3: but they haven't like fully clicked at one particular stage

708
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: in order to actually put together a really extended winning streak.

709
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Speaker 3: I'd say that the way that the pitching lines up

710
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: is tough for the Marlins because Barrios he is finally

711
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Speaker 3: back to the pitcher that the Bullets thought they were

712
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Speaker 3: getting when they extended him. And Kevin Gossman is a

713
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Speaker 3: lot more good than bad. He's a guy that just

714
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Speaker 3: has incredible control and gets a heading count so consistently

715
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Speaker 3: and then puts you away on his amazing splitter on

716
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Speaker 3: those two particular games. Like even with Sandy going in

717
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: the finale of this series, I think the Blue Jays

718
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: have a very clear advantage in both and in both

719
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Speaker 3: the start and the ends of this upcoming series for

720
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Speaker 3: a team that kind of does have a lot of

721
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Speaker 3: pressure to get things going given the way that they've

722
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Speaker 3: performed and that they're coming off a game today where

723
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 3: they just blew a six to nothing lead. So there. Yeah,

724
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: the bullpen is kind of it has a lot of

725
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: familiar faces, a lot of former Marlins. Doesn't have Anthony

726
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: Bass anymore, but it does have some other guys that

727
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: you'll recognize, and they're just I think they're even though

728
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: their record is worse than the Marlins, I feel like

729
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: they are more talented team than they are. So this

730
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: would be yet another series where I'm probably gonna predict

731
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Speaker 3: the Marlins to lose it, but we'll find out for

732
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Speaker 3: sure tomorrow. Yet, when you just look at the performance, like, yeah,

733
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Speaker 3: this is a Blue Jay team that doesn't score quite

734
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Speaker 3: as many runs as you would expect, and they've been

735
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Speaker 3: allowing more runs than you'd expect to this point in

736
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Speaker 3: the season. So yeah, they're i'd say, entering the season,

737
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Speaker 3: this looks like it would be one of their tougher

738
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Speaker 3: matchups with the entire season. But as I mentioned, the

739
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Speaker 3: Blue Jays just aren't quite as good in reality as

740
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Speaker 3: they are on paper.

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Speaker 2: Admittedly, I was the one who traded for Vladimir Guerra

742
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Junior from Mister I've also got Darn Bar Show as well,

743
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Speaker 2: which I've been following the Blue Jays last couple weeks,

744
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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's been disappointing from an oppensive standpoint.

745
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Speaker 1: They've got so much talent on.

746
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Speaker 2: That team, and you know, maybe this is a series

747
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: where it breaks out for them. We were kind of

748
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: talking about that this time last week, where man, the

749
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: Mariners should be a lot better than they are and

750
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: where's that breakout coming? And the breakout hasn't quite happened yet,

751
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: But you kind.

752
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Speaker 1: Of saw some flashes up with what Seattle's capable of them.

753
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Speaker 1: Anything from you, mister Carr before we turn it over

754
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: to the bump part of the show. No, not really.

755
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Speaker 1: I think you guys kind of carvered it.

756
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's still a team that's even though they've

757
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Speaker 5: kind of they kind of struggled a little bit with

758
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Speaker 5: the Blue.

759
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Speaker 1: Jays, and in some aspects, I think the.

760
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Speaker 5: Pirates are the surprise of the Major League Baseball season

761
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Speaker 5: with how they've come back from being the perennial losers

762
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Speaker 5: out there. They've kind of got a lot of role

763
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Speaker 5: players on that team that are doing really well. Then

764
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Speaker 5: you have Reynolds right there in the middle of it

765
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Speaker 5: as well. It's also doing very well offensively again too,

766
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Speaker 5: So that's gonna be a fun series as well Aspirates.

767
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Speaker 5: But but yeah, no Blue Jays. This is definitely a

768
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: star set of lineup, stacked lineup. You're gonna see Donnie's

769
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 5: return to Miami, which will be fun. I'm sure one

770
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: of you guys will talk to him. Whoever, whoever's reporting

771
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 5: for this series, I'm sure you guys will.

772
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Speaker 2: The two people you're talking to are the only two

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Speaker 2: Fish on first members who are not in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well I'm I'm far away too, I'm like

775
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: an hour and a half away, but not as far

776
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: as you guys.

777
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: But I'm sure you guys will have somebody there, Kevin

778
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: or Daniel who Ripert is that that'll get maybe get

779
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 5: a work with Donnie. It'll be cool to see him back.

780
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Speaker 5: I'm sure he'll get it, thank you and everything else

781
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: on the board, and it'll be cool.

782
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's it's just it's.

783
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Speaker 5: A lot of names in this lineup. There's there's definitely

784
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: so much, so much talent on this on this team,

785
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Speaker 5: and it's gonna be fun to see them, and it's

786
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Speaker 5: gonna be fun to see how the Marlins measure up

787
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Speaker 5: to a team who who is one of the better

788
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Speaker 5: teams than baseball. Even tho they're a little underachieving right now,

789
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 5: this is definitely one of the better lineups in baseball

790
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: face So how the pitching stacks out, how the Marlins

791
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: stacked up against their pitching, as you guys were just saying,

792
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 5: will definitely be a good test for this.

793
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Speaker 1: Team, especially just the contrast.

794
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Speaker 5: Where they just played all these really bad teams and

795
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 5: now you're playing a really good team but what happens, right.

796
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: So it'll it'll it'll be nice to see how.

797
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: They adjust and make that adjustment to better competition, which

798
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: will be will be fun to see and that'll be

799
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Speaker 5: the question mark as they go along through the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of the schedule.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, a fun team of fun lineup of the

802
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Speaker 5: Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: They are still top ten in.

804
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Speaker 5: Baseball and OPS so they have a positive rendefferential of

805
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: plus nineteen, so they're they're a decent team. They're still

806
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 5: a good team and making get even better as we

807
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 5: go along here.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be a fun test for Miami

809
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Speaker 1: here in the streets. I don't think he could have

810
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Speaker 1: said it better.

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Speaker 2: That's play a sleeping giant potentially, even though again that

812
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: record is good and you've got a talent like Laddie.

813
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: He's bottled the wake up at any point. But we'll

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Speaker 2: turn it over here to the fun part of the show.

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Speaker 6: How you gone Happy Father's Day? I'm gonna touch on

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Speaker 6: what Alex said. The man Alex, we actually said it earlier.

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Speaker 6: If anybody wasn't there. The Marlins Radio had a space

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Speaker 6: in the morning on Sunday, and I asked about Anthony Maldonado.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if Alex said his name at all,

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Speaker 6: Archie Bradley's gonna play this series or wait until Edward

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875
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 6: Bradley and bring up Maldonado as it was previously stated.

876
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 6: I mean, Bradley's been up since when how long? For

877
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 6: like since the Seattle series, and he hasn't pitched. I

878
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 6: know he pitched like thirty he had like thirty pitches

879
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 6: and like any I don't know how many how many

880
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 6: innings pitch that I think I fell asleep. But his

881
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: stats are too good. We you guys have been saying

882
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: he's been he's.

883
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: Better than what's his name.

884
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 6: Then Nardi and Nardi has been amazing these last couple

885
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 6: of months. Uh, And I think that he's gonna find

886
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 6: his way into that bullpen and that's gonna bolster the bullpen.

887
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna talk about my turney for my Panamanians

888
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 6: because just it's always bring comes up and up and up.

889
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change my my thing.

890
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, that's someone that needs to be up soon.

891
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Same thing with Davier Edwards.

892
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 6: He's what he's hit. He hit his second home run today.

893
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 6: I think he's hitting like four hundred something like that.

894
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 6: Seeing the stat on there since getting since like, let

895
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 6: me find the stack one second here.

896
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the thing, the thing is Romeo, not

897
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: to interrupt you, but the thing is that you have

898
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 5: to find room for these guys to uh to contribute.

899
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: So there are guys down there that.

900
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: Definitely needs to be up. I agree with you on Maldonado.

901
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 5: I agree with you on Xavior Edwards. I also would

902
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: agree on Dane Myers, who's another guy who's kind of

903
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: pushing his way up. But you need to find root

904
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: for these guys to start contributing regularly. And there's really

905
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 5: with the way that this bullpenner is performing, in terms

906
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 5: of Maldonado, with the way that this bullpener is performing,

907
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 5: what's his role, Like what would be his role? If

908
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 5: you call him up right, you can't replace Nardi, can't

909
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 5: place Puck like you can't mess with that bullpen the

910
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 5: way that it is right now, because it's just been

911
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 5: that good. The thing with Andrew Nardi, Matt like, because

912
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: you brought up the name. Don't you talk about Maldonado,

913
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 5: but you brought up the name. So I am never

914
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: short on thoughts about Andrew Nardi because when everyone else,

915
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 5: everyone else, everyone else last year was out, was like, yeah,

916
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 5: Andrew Nardi, he's you know, just ad a quad a player.

917
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: He came up and he was terrible and he was

918
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 5: he was not good. And it is hent with Miami

919
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 5: last year. But this is why you wait, This is

920
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: why you feel things out. This is why you don't

921
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: give up on players when they come up and in their.

922
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: Major league debuts, it happens, and this is how players

923
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: fill it out. And you're seeing what Andrew Nardi is

924
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: doing now, that's something that only ten other Miami Marlins

925
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: have ever done ever in the history of the thirty

926
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: years of baseball at this team. This stint for him

927
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: is spectacular.

928
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 5: Is showing you exactly the use that this guy has

929
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 5: as a guy that just uses pitches, uses literally all

930
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 5: three of his pitches, keeps guys guessing, gets guys off balance,

931
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: and just records meaningful outs.

932
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: He's great. He's an awesome dude.

933
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: I am so glad for this guy and that the

934
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: Marlins didn't run to another alex Vesia situation because that's

935
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: where I but that's where I thought it was going.

936
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: When everybody was saying, oh yeah, just send the guy down,

937
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 5: just dfa the guy, just get rid of him, just

938
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 5: trade him.

939
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: This is that.

940
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: No, this is why you don't do that, because you

941
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 5: can see what guys do when they're given the time

942
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: they need to succeed as major League baseball players. And

943
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: that's exactly what Nardi is doing now.

944
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: And he's been great.

945
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 5: You see him in safe situations when puck is not available,

946
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: he has two saves.

947
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: This guy's good.

948
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: And to pitch as meaningful innings as he has and

949
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: get done when he's gotten done is very, very impressive

950
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: and should not be discounted.

951
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: I think Andrew Nardi has an All Star Game case.

952
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll make it. I think he's got

953
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: a case.

954
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: You can make an argument, well, yeah, it's it's not

955
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: really relevant. He's not gonna make an All Star Game

956
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: just because of his role on the team. I think

957
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: what you're simply saying is that he has a case

958
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: for being one of the best relievers in baseball. So

959
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: far this season, he has been immensely valuable with both

960
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: preventing his own runs and even more so something we

961
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: constantly point out, the way that he's stranding runners. He

962
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 3: constantly being brought into difficult situations with runners on base,

963
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: and he's been automatic at getting out of those innings

964
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: by missing more bets and not allowing even those productive auts.

965
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: He's been outstanding. One of the big mysteries last year.

966
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: I was somebody that was also very high on Nardi

967
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: when he was coming to the big leagues, and it

968
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: was just baffling last year to see how his fastball

969
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: did not play the way I thought it would. I

970
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: thought he would get a whole lot of of whiffs

971
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: up in the zone with it last year. Instead, opponents

972
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: hit three point ninety. They slugged seven fifty six against

973
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: his fastball last year, and now this year, this is

974
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: what I expected. Those numbers have been cut in half,

975
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: from a three ninety batting average against to a two

976
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: hundred against the fastball, from a seven to fifty six

977
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: slugging to a three fifty four. The whiff rate is

978
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: about the same as it was before. He's just getting

979
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: those whiffs in when he's already ahead in the count.

980
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: This it was unlucky before and now. I don't think

981
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: he's going to continue the scoreless strict the entire year,

982
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: but he This is a lot closer to the reality

983
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: of him. This is the player that we thought he

984
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: would be. He has not so quietly emerged as the

985
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: primary set up guy behind Puck. He has surpassed Dylan

986
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: Floro in the pecking order. I don't know if people

987
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: notice that, but that is the way that he's been used.

988
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: That's a very clear message being sense that he is

989
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: almost one A, one B with Puck right now in

990
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: terms of guys that you trust to get the most

991
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: important outs of the entire game. And finally, thank you Grant.

992
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: Another successful super subscriber conversion just a few minutes ago.

993
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coincidence that happened. Right now,

994
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: Andrew Gross is a new super subscriber. So thank you

995
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: Andrew for your support and for Grants for yeah, for

996
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: laying out the benefits for you.

997
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: That's where's Andrew? Where's Andrew?

998
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: I want to bring him in anytime you we get

999
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: a new super subscriber.

1000
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: On these cases, we always bring him in. We listen

1001
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: there story.

1002
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: If he's here for question, I'll bring you in right away.

1003
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: But Romeo, you you wanted to continue with with your

1004
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: thought about just the minor league stuff.

1005
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1006
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 6: Does what's his name it's Vargas, right, Vargas, Marco.

1007
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Vargas, Marco Vargas.

1008
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been going insane correct every day. I look

1009
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 6: at my phone Marco Vargas highlights. Uh do you think

1010
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 6: that he finds his way onto like Loway at all?

1011
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: Or you think he stayed Where is he?

1012
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a bad question because he's been really

1013
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: really good. But this is still what only like eleven

1014
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 5: twelve games he's in the FCL, so he's playing state

1015
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 5: side ball. He's eighteen. They are, I mean, they kind

1016
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 5: of switch him around a bit, but the word that

1017
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 5: I get and the vibe that I get from his

1018
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 5: development is that they want him to continue to play

1019
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 5: shortsop and this guy has such a simple approach man

1020
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 5: and is really good.

1021
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: So I'm really high on Marco Vargas.

1022
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 5: Me and Danny will have a top one hundred coming

1023
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: out really soon, and you'll see him in the top fifteen.

1024
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Of mine.

1025
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm very high on that player. I think he's really, really,

1026
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 5: really mature for his age. They loved him in spring training.

1027
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 5: I talk to people in spring training in my league

1028
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 5: spring training, and they loved that guy. So the team

1029
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 5: is really high on him, and I think it's for

1030
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: a very good reason.

1031
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: But I would expect him to spend.

1032
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: Probably the whole season in the FCL before getting up

1033
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 5: to a new level next year.

1034
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I want the field face soft against South Manila.

1035
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 6: That's I was just about to ask, because since alec Mono.

1036
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: Is down there, where he faced him at all, or.

1037
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 6: Because I don't know, down there just to love he's

1038
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: really down there just to lose weight and do the

1039
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 6: pitch might be so.

1040
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: He'd be completely wrong on this.

1041
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: I might be completely wrong on this, but teams that

1042
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: have spring training in Florida do the Florida Complex League,

1043
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: and teams that do Arizona spring training have the Arizona

1044
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: Complex Sleep.

1045
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: Am I wrong on that?

1046
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 5: No, you're right, and Toronto's and Dunedin, so there is

1047
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 5: a chance that and I think I think they match

1048
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 5: up on the SCL schedule.

1049
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: I have to double check, but I'm pretty sure they

1050
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: match up.

1051
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 5: I just don't know if like Minoa would be facing

1052
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 5: off against Argus in particular, but I'm pretty sure they match.

1053
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Up on the schedule. It's a funny ticket.

1054
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 6: One more thing, one more thing to say before yeah,

1055
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 6: is Josh Pelosio's I believe his name is the six

1056
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 6: to eleven.

1057
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 7: Guy.

1058
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: How is he doing? Joe on Platio's six eleventh pictures?

1059
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 5: The Johann Plastios Is that that you mean? Yeah, that's

1060
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 5: the Marlins, not Louis Plasio. No, yeah, So Johan Plastios

1061
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: is a pitcher.

1062
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: As you said, He's pitched two games, two innings, and.

1063
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: He's allowed one hit and that's it. So that that's

1064
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: that's about all I.

1065
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: Can give you on him.

1066
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 5: I haven't really seen much film or anything on him,

1067
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 5: but yes, I know he is a very very tall

1068
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 5: young man.

1069
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what I can give you on this.

1070
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't correct. I believe that's that's what it is. Yeah, yeah,

1071
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you're right.

1072
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: So so yeah, eighteen years old, another really really young kid.

1073
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 5: He's he's again down there with the rookie affiliate, like

1074
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 5: I just said, still in the DSL. So played in

1075
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: the DFL last year. Was not good in eleven games

1076
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 5: and playing down there again, and looks like they've converted

1077
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: him to release work. So it looks like he's gone

1078
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 5: from starter he started all your last year and this

1079
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: year he's had two appearances so far, both in relief

1080
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 5: and spingle innings. So lo like they're they're looking at

1081
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 5: relief work for this guy, uh.

1082
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: In the future. Now, that's why I can give you

1083
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: on that on that name.

1084
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: Is he on your top one hundred prospects list, Alex

1085
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: or if he missed the cut? He just missed the cut.

1086
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Actually, he's actually not on my top one hundred.

1087
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a pretty concise summary of where

1088
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: he's at.

1089
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 6: Okay, I said it was the last question, but this

1090
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 6: is actually the last question.

1091
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: What's his name?

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Speaker 6: The Japanese guy that moved to Venezuela and is now

1093
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 6: in the DSL.

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00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: How is he doing?

1095
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 6: Because I really don't know. I don't know where to

1096
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 6: look for this stuff, So ask Alex Carter while he's here.

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00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 6: I feel like that's that's a good thing to ask

1098
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 6: for Eli.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that's her resource. That is Hiroshi Takahashi,

1100
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: the right handed pitcher who's also in the DSL. With him,

1101
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: and there's not a whole lot more to say. We

1102
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: do have a little video courtesy of his Instagram account,

1103
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: so I've actually like seen him pitching and I saw

1104
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: him get a strikeout on a breaking ball, So he's

1105
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 3: not just the one pitch guy this stage. But it's

1106
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing where it's so preliminary. He's

1107
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: going to be in the DSL for this entire season.

1108
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: You know, if everything goes great, then he'll be in

1109
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: the FCL next season, and that's kind of where we'll

1110
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: eventually get moderately interested in where he's going to this point.

1111
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: But I know he had one decent outing and then

1112
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: he had won pretty rough outing so far to this

1113
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: point in the season. Leta's see if I could get

1114
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: his stats.

1115
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good.

1116
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 5: Two games, three innings pitched an area of twenty one

1117
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 5: because he has seven earned girls allow so he's seventeen

1118
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 5: years old.

1119
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: So I mean it's like to play. I said, it's

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00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: two games in.

1121
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: His per career, so I can wait to see how

1122
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 5: he does. But yes, like he like said, it's very preliminary.

1123
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 5: We don't get a ton of stuff out of these levels.

1124
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Like I know sometimes that we can connect with the

1125
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: source and.

1126
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 5: Maybe get some video and stuff like that, but unless

1127
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 5: you're there in person, and I'm at some of the

1128
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 5: SBL games, so I can give you more on the FCL,

1129
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 5: especially than the DSL because we just don't see anything

1130
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 5: other than box scores, so it's kind of hard to

1131
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 5: go buy anything other than the numbers, which is not

1132
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 5: what we should be doing at these levels. These are

1133
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: kids that are at the youngest stages of their professional

1134
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 5: careers and you just gotta wait and see, man, Like

1135
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 5: that's that's That's pretty much what it is at this.

1136
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: Young of a level. But see how they do.

1137
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 5: I love the short season leaks. They're one of my

1138
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 5: favorite things to cover and follow along with. So so yeah,

1139
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: but yeah, the name Marco Marcus. We need to really

1140
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: watch out for that guy.

1141
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: All right, all right, thank you Romeo. We got some

1142
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: more requests here, bring in Shreefy requested pretty much right away.

1143
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: Again, just like Romeo, you can get your you can

1144
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: come in first and those requests if you pay three

1145
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: dollars a month, become a super subscriber. You used to

1146
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: do it through Twitter, it is now on our website.

1147
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: And we got streak in here. So how are you doing, sir?

1148
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: And what's your question?

1149
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 8: Good day to everyone, first of all, Happy Father's Days

1150
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 8: to all the fathers and enjoying their day. I appreciate

1151
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 8: everyone here for the great coverage you guys continue to bring.

1152
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 8: I am still following me, particularly Sandy and his five

1153
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 8: pitches coming up through the system. And guys, I'm concerned

1154
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 8: about his usage when you check the totals is merely

1155
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 8: like fifteen percent.

1156
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: He's been using the curve and his sinker.

1157
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 8: I think so the other three he's okay with Hughsing.

1158
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 8: I think it's Steve four, Steamer two Seaman and the

1159
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 8: changeup we just become bidding practice. And I wanted to

1160
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 8: ask you, guys, what do you think about one the

1161
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 8: selection that the skipper is allowing Fortes or Stallings.

1162
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: To allow Sandy to pitch with.

1163
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 8: Sandy may need to change now that he's twenty seven

1164
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 8: coming up into the big he has five he has

1165
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 8: to make a change.

1166
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: The change of has become biding practice.

1167
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 8: And the two samers to the writings, he's not putting

1168
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 8: it in the place that he wants.

1169
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: What's your guys thoughts on that?

1170
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 5: Oh man, I love these conversations I'm gonna let somebody

1171
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 5: else go ahead, but I.

1172
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Love pitch usage questions. But I'm gonna let Eli.

1173
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 5: Or Grant go ahead as a base response. As a

1174
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: base response, and I'm not gonna go too long. I'm

1175
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 5: gonna to Eli fully answer you. But this is a

1176
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: great question, by the way. So the reason for this

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: is because he, like you just said, sure, if he

1178
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 5: does not have the change up, and that it was

1179
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 5: his most valuable pitch last year, it's his least valuable

1180
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 5: pitch this year. That's the reason that he's had trouble

1181
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: adjusting and why he's not keeping hitters as off balance

1182
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: as he was. But I'm gonna let Eli go ahead.

1183
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 5: But yes, the elimination of the change up. Realistically, the

1184
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 5: elimination of the change up from his arsenal is the

1185
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 5: main difference.

1186
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: What I wanted to point out, specifically, as you correctly

1187
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: brought up, Sharif, is that in this last outing he

1188
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: allowed a home run, a leadoff home run on a

1189
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 3: four seamer to start the game, and then he almost

1190
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: went away from it entirely. What made the standout quality

1191
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: of last year's pitch usage is that it was almost

1192
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: an even split between all four of his main pitches

1193
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: last year twenty five, twenty five, twenty five, twenty five,

1194
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 3: there was he was avoiding any patterns with it, and

1195
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: each of those had a role in his arsenal in

1196
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: this last particular game. To see him like just go

1197
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: away from his four seamer, the pitch that is is

1198
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: pretty important for him to get whiffs when his changeup

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Speaker 3: is not working. And for him to go through that

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Speaker 3: entire outing and only get one strikeout against the Nationals

1201
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: and more than five innings, it's it's not a coincidence

1202
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: for him to when he's making he's using his pitches

1203
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: like that and then obviously just not getting enough swing

1204
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: and miss to overcome all the hard contact and he's yeah,

1205
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: he's just not going to be very effective. You you

1206
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: touched on it pretty well though. Where that Yeah, I.

1207
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 8: Think what it comes down to is what is mel

1208
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 8: and Skip talking about? Because for me, we all know

1209
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 8: he has a bugs Bunny curve. We very rarely see

1210
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 8: him use it. Maybe the confidence is in there to

1211
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 8: drop it and all four quadrant of the zone.

1212
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: I think he should start well, he should have.

1213
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 8: Been working on that and he's if he's not able

1214
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 8: to use that Bugs bunny curve. Then people are just

1215
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 8: going to time up the right He's going to time

1216
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 8: up the two seamer coming in, and then of course

1217
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 8: anyone can size up a four steamer when you don't

1218
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 8: have anything else that you're keeping them off balanced with.

1219
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: So he had spoken in spring training about using that

1220
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: curve more often. Last year he went all with sliders,

1221
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: and that pitch was probably last year, the slider was

1222
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: probably the weakest part of his arsenal. It was mostly

1223
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: about the sinkers and the changeup to when he was

1224
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: on top of his game. And he spoke entering this

1225
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: year about reincorporating that curve ball, and he hasn't really

1226
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 3: followed through on it very much at all, with only

1227
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: a few exceptions that I can think of, So that's

1228
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: that's part of the issue. But frankly, I thought he

1229
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 3: was heading in the right direction prior to this last start.

1230
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: This last start in many ways was one of the

1231
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: more discouraging points of his season because he just undid

1232
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: a lot of the progress that I thought he was

1233
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 3: making the previous couple of times. And now well, and

1234
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: now we'll see because now he's going up against one

1235
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: of the very toughest lineups that he's faced all year.

1236
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: He'll be facing the Blue Jayson this upcoming series, and

1237
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: uh yeah, we'll see what happens because I fear that

1238
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: that could get pretty ugly.

1239
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, one more answer this question too, if you want.

1240
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: He loves this kind of stuff. So Isaac think the

1241
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: question is just about Sandy's pitch usage. Job, sure, he

1242
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: posed the question here.

1243
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: That so the question what exactly about Sandy's pitch selection

1244
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: is what you're there, Hilly. We touched on it pretty well,

1245
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: but it's just about Sandy going towards four seamers and.

1246
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. That's kind of you like that kind

1247
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: of stuff.

1248
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, nobody that started against the Nationals. You know, I

1249
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 9: pick him for a series, MBB. I wasn't able to

1250
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 9: watch too much. It was a travel day for me,

1251
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 9: So I think someone else will be better clips to

1252
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 9: take that one.

1253
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: We touched on.

1254
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get to get you included on

1255
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: this one, but you all have your question.

1256
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1257
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate you guys answers. I'm not concerned with

1258
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 8: the hitting at all. I think Skip is trying to

1259
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 8: implement the bunt more. But what is happening is we're

1260
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 8: actually hitting, and so we don't need to scrap hits

1261
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 8: and move guys with buns. But I notice he's he's

1262
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 8: forcing it. But once again, we're hitting, so we don't

1263
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 8: really need it. And that's what's impressive too. I've watched

1264
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 8: every game so in that, but hey, let's keep hitting

1265
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 8: once against. I think someone mentioned it earlier, the fact

1266
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 8: that we're not having near all star caliber pitching and starter,

1267
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 8: but yet it yet for ten games over five hundred,

1268
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 8: so that's amazing. I'll let someone else come up. I

1269
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 8: appreciate you guys once again.

1270
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, great question. I love I love the pitches and stuff,

1271
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: so that's a great question.

1272
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I really have no doubt that Fanny's

1273
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 5: going to roll back into four man eventually. He just

1274
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 5: needs to get that change up back, and I think

1275
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 5: that makes all the difference.

1276
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: In the war for him.

1277
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 9: It was such a scary, such a scary start that

1278
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 9: the National start. I did, obviously, you know, catch up

1279
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 9: a little bit, but the Oakland third inning and that

1280
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 9: National start just really far away. I know he'll be

1281
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 9: he'll bounce back, but he really is fart in a

1282
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 9: way from what he was last year, and I think

1283
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 9: a big part of it is the lack of shift

1284
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 9: for it, because he grabble pitcher and think he's trying

1285
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 9: to you know, over like.

1286
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: Sort of or stimulate what he was doing last.

1287
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 9: Year and just pitched the contact and now he's trying

1288
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 9: to strike guys that which is just not really his game.

1289
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's the big issue. All Right, Well,

1290
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: thank you very much for if we appreciate it. We'll

1291
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: get another speaker.

1292
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: That is one of the better questions we've had in

1293
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: these spaces.

1294
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: That's a good depth.

1295
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm not equipped answer that, but of course we got

1296
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: guys like Eli, Alex and Isaac on the panel.

1297
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna bring him.

1298
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: Brian here, So Brian, good evening, and uh, what's your

1299
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: question for us?

1300
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 1: Hey you guys, evening.

1301
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 7: Thanks again for all the coverage and everything regarding the pitching.

1302
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 7: That's probably one of the biggest pictures for now. If

1303
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 7: you guys touched on it prettyten there you're seeing it

1304
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 7: across you know, Triple A and MLB. The pitching is

1305
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 7: really bad, except for maldon Ado. I mean, obviously he's

1306
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 7: been really good. My prediction is I think Devin Smeltz

1307
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 7: is gonna come up and I don't know if he's

1308
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 7: gonna probably start a game or if I have to

1309
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 7: guess you're probably gonna back up holding tomorrow. I would

1310
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 7: say if he does join the team. Devin Smeltzer, I

1311
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 7: think he looked okay in his last starting triple A

1312
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 7: from what I believe that I witnessed. And then Edwards

1313
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 7: and Davey Myers, I mean, they're pretty much coulding get

1314
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 7: right now if we're getting closer and closer than the

1315
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 7: deadline and obviously gonna say we're buyers. I mean, is

1316
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 7: that there's no obviously no root for these guys right now.

1317
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 7: If you're in the big league team, if you guys

1318
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 7: consider putting them in a package and sending them off

1319
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 7: for something of a player of need that we need.

1320
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: It really spends on what's out there.

1321
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, it is still very very bleaked to

1322
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: see what the trade market's gonna look like. I didn't

1323
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: really set up a set like trade conversation for this space.

1324
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: Is because we had some teams picked out last week

1325
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: where we thought, oh, these teams.

1326
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: Could definitely be sellers.

1327
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: Let's pinpoint these guys, like a lot of the bad

1328
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: teams won this week, or the teams that were kind

1329
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: of like Peter tottering back and.

1330
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: Forth between buyer and seller, and we just don't know.

1331
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: We really don't know now.

1332
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: But in terms of packing those players, and I think

1333
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: you've seen so far in the rotation that depth can't hurt.

1334
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fully I love to clip.

1335
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: But uh, I think the Marms are just gonna take

1336
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: whatever the right offer is to make the team better.

1337
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: One core strength of kim Ang is trading.

1338
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: And while she's had trouble closing some deals in the past,

1339
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: one you have made are all pretty good, especially a lot.

1340
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: Of the low key ones, most notably this past year

1341
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: for Puck. I mean that put put a bow on

1342
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: just how good the bullpen's been this year. I don't

1343
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: know what this bullpen would look like without Putt, but it's.

1344
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: Been great, and they wouldn't be contributing whatsoever to this team.

1345
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: So she's really good at trades like that, and I

1346
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised we see something like that. But then again,

1347
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 2: it's just it is bleak right now to see who

1348
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: actually is going to be a seller. And out of

1349
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: the teams that are confirmed sellers, pretty much the A's

1350
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: and the Royals and the Rockets. There really aren't many

1351
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: sex Nationals out there, the Nationals, and even then they

1352
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: don't really have too many guys.

1353
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: Maybe Ken Lario, but I.

1354
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 2: Sos the Cardinals. Here's my thing about the haven't really

1355
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: considered them as best sellers yet is because they have

1356
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: too much talent to like not fully count them out,

1357
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 2: like they're totally capable of going on ten wins and

1358
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: eleven game streak that kind of stretched, like they just

1359
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: have too much talent and not be able to completely

1360
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: rule them out yet.

1361
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, do they do they really as a

1362
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: whole team offensively on the on the on the position

1363
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 3: players side, they do. But they're pitching is terrible. They are.

1364
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: They're simply one of the worst collections of pitchers in

1365
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: all of baseball. I don't see any upside whatsoever to

1366
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: their pitching staff. They're there, and now they've dug in

1367
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: a deep enough hole thanks to the Reds and the Brewers.

1368
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: Those are two teams that are both eight plus games

1369
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: ahead of them. I don't see them closing an eight

1370
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: game gap on those teams. They just don't have the

1371
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: pitchers to do it unless they really went bold, actually

1372
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: went outside of the organization to acquire more starters and

1373
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: use some of their prospect capital to do it. Yeah,

1374
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: I think that's They really pulled themselves back from the

1375
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: edge this weekend, winning these last two games against the Mets.

1376
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: That probably keeps them kind of in the mix a

1377
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: little bit longer. But I would expect them to come

1378
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: deadline time for some of their major leaguers to be available.

1379
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: I don't I don't see them being going on a

1380
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: hot streak anytime soon.

1381
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 9: They needed a trade for problem man. They there was

1382
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 9: a reason why Sam Louis was a heavy suitor for Miami.

1383
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 9: With all the pitching that Miami did have, I can't

1384
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 9: believe they didn't do anything, and it's it's showing how

1385
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 9: poorly they're they're pitching this year.

1386
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: They do have a pretty good farm to choose from

1387
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 2: if they want to buy.

1388
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: But if they do decide this out, they can just

1389
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: add to it and they can bash track the rebuild.

1390
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of what Cincinnati did. That's kind of what

1391
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: the Oriols have done. Not to much.

1392
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 9: God's and I gets Jordan Walker to go get corporate burns.

1393
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: That would be a massive trade.

1394
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: But that being in NL Central trade and then interdivision

1395
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: trades are going to become more common now that the

1396
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: schedules changed. But the Cardinal's breweris trade would be kind

1397
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: of crazy.

1398
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

1399
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: How I trade.

1400
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 9: Maybe trade for an injured Woodruff as well, I could see,

1401
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 9: but obviously the Brewers don't think are going in that

1402
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:18,959
Speaker 9: direction all either.

1403
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: Now it's it's a three two three four horse race

1404
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: in the Central I'd say at least three.

1405
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: The Cubs kind of aren't completely out of it yet.

1406
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 9: And then right, but I think the Cubs so I

1407
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 9: think that's a given that they're gonna be.

1408
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: They should, they should at some point of maybe Bellanger

1409
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: being a target for the Marlins if he can get healthy.

1410
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: Big if though, they'll probably trade Strowman if he doesn't

1411
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: do this extension.

1412
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, to your point, you want to package these

1413
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: guys for certain players.

1414
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean, any deal that's there for Kim, I think

1415
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna take it.

1416
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: The Marlins are probably going to be aggressive, but death

1417
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: can't hurt very very fortunate the Marlins in and trade

1418
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: more starting pitching from.

1419
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: Pablo, and I've been an advocate.

1420
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: Of trying to go deal Edward Cabrera the Cincinnati for

1421
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: one of their surplus infielders.

1422
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: That can't happen anymore. I don't even know if Edward's

1423
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: gonna be backed by August first, But uh, of course

1424
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1425
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm not a medical professional. I'm a journalism major. But

1426
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: with the way some of these to show theirs and

1427
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: whatnot have gone, Marlins, if it's a pretty unfortunate injury

1428
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 2: a lot, and yeah, I wouldn't put pinpoint any sort

1429
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: of like time and date on Eddie coming back.

1430
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: I guess we'll learn more tomorrow from whoever took the

1431
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: ballpark really quick.

1432
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 9: To add to what Brian said, just swing of Myers,

1433
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 9: I think it would be who's the team seriously to

1434
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 9: just call and see what they have with him before

1435
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 9: the trade deadline, before they have to really decide whether

1436
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 9: they're selling your bud, Just to see what you've got,

1437
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 9: because if you can play a little bit for a

1438
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 9: little bit of third, that sort of you know, helps

1439
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 9: decide what you're gonna go after if you decide to

1440
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 9: be buyers.

1441
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: So I really think, you know, he's a name.

1442
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 9: Even Craig miss reported that he is someone that the

1443
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 9: team is well aware of. How he's performing up a

1444
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 9: triple A hitting nearly five hundred, and he was some

1445
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 9: pop as well. So I think I think we could

1446
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 9: see him get called up before the end of June,

1447
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 9: maybe just when they see what they got with this kid,

1448
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 9: so that way they don't have to go and get

1449
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 9: something else and trade more pieces for another play that

1450
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 9: maybe mights can fill a whole kid.

1451
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: He's a fun dude, like super super fun. I talked

1452
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: to him in spring training, Isaac, and.

1453
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 5: He was like, Dude, this weather is making all the

1454
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 5: difference for me, Like, I think he's really really comfortable

1455
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 5: in the warmer weather rather than the cold of Detroit,

1456
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: which is where he came from in the Rule five.

1457
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think I think that's making a bit

1458
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: of difference for him personally, that he likes being downe

1459
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 5: and he likes hitting in these warmer climates and it's

1460
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 5: getting it done man, like you said. And he could

1461
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 5: play all over the place, like first, third corner outfield.

1462
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 5: Hasn't played third base a ton. He's played it, but

1463
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 5: not really a ton. My My like prospective analysts analysts

1464
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 5: analysis analysis of him is that he probably fits best

1465
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: as a corner outfielder, is is what I would say.

1466
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 5: But He definitely has the ability to play and is

1467
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: doing it now because a Maya just got called up,

1468
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 5: so now he's at third base, so they didn't call

1469
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 5: it if anybody else to triple A played third base today,

1470
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 5: so he can definitely fill in in these spots where

1471
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 5: he's needed. But he's interesting, like you said, definitely has

1472
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 5: some pop, can hit for a decent average, can get

1473
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 5: on base. I like him, man, And yeah, I don't

1474
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 5: disagree with you that he's not one of those those

1475
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 5: guys that I mentioned before that's kind of just pushing

1476
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 5: his way up and why not see what you have

1477
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 5: so that you know this is the guy that you're

1478
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 5: going to keep as basis of your team or a

1479
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 5: guy that you're gonna use his trade and trade value.

1480
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 5: So there's there's definitely a room room for him to

1481
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 5: come up if they can make room for him. That

1482
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 5: the trick is, how do you get him up here

1483
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 5: and how do you really a full look at him

1484
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 5: with the team succeeding as that he's doing right now.

1485
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 5: So probably coming for later in the year, but I

1486
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 5: don't disagree with you. Come August September, it's definitely possible.

1487
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should add a note on Dane Meyers and

1488
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: his contractual status. He's a twenty seventeen draft pick, and

1489
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: that means at the end of this year he's going

1490
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: to be able to elect minor league free agency if

1491
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 3: he's not on the forty man roster. So it's kind

1492
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 3: of like a rule five pick situation. We saw the

1493
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 3: Marlins last year. Sean Reynolds was in this situation where

1494
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: they did let the whole year go by and then

1495
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: they wait till after the year to put him on.

1496
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: But I'd say in more of those cases they do,

1497
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: it's more incentivized for you to actually, you know, just

1498
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 3: call them up during the season, especially if they're performing

1499
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: exceptionally well the way that he is. He is the

1500
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: top performing hitter in this organization. And he plays a

1501
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 3: bunch of different positions, even though he doesn't play them,

1502
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 3: not all them super fluently. To this point, as somebody

1503
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: that very recently was a pitcher, not a position player exactly. Yeah,

1504
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 3: but he is like to know that.

1505
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: He was as you just said, he liked to know

1506
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: that he was just pitching.

1507
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 5: I think he's only been a batter or a position

1508
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 5: player since twenty twenty one.

1509
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: I think if I'm not mistaken.

1510
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 5: So he was formerly pitching and now he's playing all

1511
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 5: these different positions. I guess, probably just to see what

1512
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 5: works out the best for him. But he was previously

1513
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,839
Speaker 5: a pitcher, so obviously you know, he has a decent arm.

1514
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, like I said, I think I would I

1515
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 5: would be most comfortable in calling him like a corner

1516
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 5: outfielder long term, but we'll see.

1517
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he can hold down on their positions. It's

1518
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: possible for him to do it.

1519
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 5: So definitely an athlete, definitely good, Definitely hitting the.

1520
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: Ball hard as Isaac shed.

1521
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 5: So yeah, and like I said, what was it was

1522
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 5: minor league free or minor league rule five, So I

1523
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 5: guess that I read there was minor league rule five and.

1524
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: Not major league. That's why he's not with the Marlins.

1525
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: But minor league rule five.

1526
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: They get the guy for basically nothing, and he's the

1527
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 5: best guy in the organization probably right now as a hitter.

1528
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty exciting.

1529
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 9: Regarding regarding the constructual situation with him. If you were

1530
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 9: to make his major league debut at some point, what

1531
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 9: does that do for him? You know, he's obviously still

1532
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:58,959
Speaker 9: not a minor league creagent.

1533
01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: Out for that, right.

1534
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, then just becomes a normal dude. If he's if

1535
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 3: he's pulled up and he's put on the forty man roster,

1536
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: then he's on the forty man. So then he has

1537
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 3: all his option years. Yeah, so then he's just part of.

1538
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: The six more years of club control of this player.

1539
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they just they just have to they just

1540
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 3: have to pay him more money of course, and they'd

1541
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: have to keep him all on the forty man moving

1542
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 3: forward if they still value him at this point.

1543
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's that's something that's not pointed out, is yes,

1544
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 5: we all talk about Kim and what she did with

1545
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 5: with with the major league roster.

1546
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: Look at what they're doing with this, Like they get

1547
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: this guy.

1548
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: For zero for nothing, there's zero risk, there's nothing to

1549
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 5: really lose by claiming this guy from Detroit in minor

1550
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 5: league rule five and now he's the best bad in

1551
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 5: your organization. And here we are in June talking about

1552
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 5: him possibly making a major league debut.

1553
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: It's it's it's great.

1554
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 5: Like this offseason was was fabulous with a couple of

1555
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 5: stragglers aside, talk about s talk about playto yes, we

1556
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 5: talked about that before, but overall this offseason was was

1557
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 5: very good.

1558
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: For Kim, and I think she's learned a lot. If

1559
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: you're Bruce Sherman.

1560
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 9: You just say, hey, listen, I'll let you spend some money,

1561
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 9: but only for trades. You know, all of you're taking

1562
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 9: on money from another team in the trade because holy crap,

1563
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 9: now one free agent has really.

1564
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: Worked, it's amazing, not one. So that's the I would do.

1565
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 9: Hum, Bruce, listen, Kim, here's your money, here's your budget,

1566
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 9: but only on trades.

1567
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: You only take on money. That's trades and trades and

1568
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: and and my rag weak for agents, all those you're

1569
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: dest agents. Yeah, we're bidden.

1570
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, different kind of money ball there.

1571
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: But Bride, is that all you have for us? You

1572
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: guys still hear me? Yeah? Yeah, the last thing I

1573
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: have is yeah. So basically like this is it. I

1574
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: would say, like, I think we should.

1575
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 7: You know, obviously celebrate we're ten games over, but not

1576
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 7: like the schedule is really gonna shift and uh in

1577
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 7: a way that probably is in the best favor. But

1578
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna learn a lot from this team here.

1579
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 7: The next you know, next week's heading into the All

1580
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 7: Star break. You know, the picturing starting picture is gonna

1581
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 7: be a concern, but I think we're gonna learn a lot,

1582
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 7: and I'm pretty happy with the decision that she has made,

1583
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 7: like this season when it comes to like guys that

1584
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 7: she has caught up, whereas like last year she was

1585
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 7: calling up guys like Willie Zastadillo and like Eric Gonzalez

1586
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 7: and you know, other guys that were doing good. So

1587
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 7: I feel like she's adjusted well herself when it comes

1588
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 7: to up the guys that she's caught up that you

1589
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 7: know when we need enforce them. So we're gonna we're

1590
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 7: gonna learn it a lot here next few weeks. So

1591
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 7: that's all I happen.

1592
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys.

1593
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Just as a closing on this, you're right

1594
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 5: the fact that there's new names, right, that it's not

1595
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 5: the same recycled names, especially except for maybe Smelter, who

1596
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 5: we expect to be up here shortly. Except for maybe him,

1597
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 5: it's different names. Do you see Amaya coming up, You're

1598
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 5: seeing Yuri come up, like you're you're seeing.

1599
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: New names come up. To see what they have.

1600
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 5: And I hope what Isaac said comes to fruition here,

1601
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 5: not right now, but probably in the future. See what

1602
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 5: these guys got they're pushing their way. Let's see what

1603
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 5: they got. You can point to Will Banfield. He's another one,

1604
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 5: Austin Allen.

1605
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: That's a catcher. Like give these guys air shot, like

1606
01:13:59,040 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: to see what they.

1607
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 5: Have, right and if they don't have anything, then they

1608
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 5: don't have it, and that's fine, but at least you'll

1609
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 5: see it and you're not just calling up the same guys,

1610
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 5: the same, the same, the same names, over and over again.

1611
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 5: They were doing it with Layman Diaz, they were putting

1612
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 5: them on the bench. He did it with Jose Devers.

1613
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 5: They put them on the bench. They're calling guys up

1614
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 5: and they're contributing in meaningful spots.

1615
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: And that's a huge difference from last year to this year.

1616
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: So there's a good point. Yea.

1617
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 9: I had a question for either Alex Carver or Eli

1618
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 9: Sussman regarding my I think they're one injury away, one

1619
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 9: infield injury away, another security type injury, and I think

1620
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 9: Dave myerst the should get the call up a Lady Banfield?

1621
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: Is this real? Should Marlins fans genuinely be excited?

1622
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 9: Is this I haven't watched too much of Double A, admittedly,

1623
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 9: but is this really? You go so long struggling in

1624
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 9: the professional level from twenty eighty not he has never

1625
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 9: hit a lick it set a few grand slams that

1626
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 9: people love to promote.

1627
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 5: Is this legit, I'll go first and then I'll give

1628
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 5: it to Eli. I think it is Isaac, and I'll

1629
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 5: tell you why. Is because of the difference that you

1630
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 5: see and I pointed out pointed this out on Twitter

1631
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 5: not too long ago. I think it is because of

1632
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 5: the difference in his approach and how simple he's being

1633
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 5: a the plate where his arms are much lower in

1634
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: the zone. He's not just swinging for power, He's not

1635
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 5: trying to go over the fence every single time he

1636
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 5: swings at a pitch, and I think he's viewing pitching better.

1637
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 5: He doesn't have his toe tap anymore. Like the setup

1638
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 5: just looks so much simpler, so much better, so much easier.

1639
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 5: And I think that's a that's a mean and a

1640
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 5: huge difference for what he's doing offensively, and then you

1641
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 5: know what he can do on defense.

1642
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: So I think it is legitimate.

1643
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 5: I think he's definitely somebody who needs to be looked

1644
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 5: at seriously. Obviously you're gonna talk about Macintosh to who's

1645
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 5: coming back. Literally, guy's been on a rehab assignment for

1646
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 5: like eleven games, which to me is a little crazy,

1647
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 5: but he'll be back soon. So there's there's catchers, and

1648
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 5: then you talk about Alan who has been pretty good

1649
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 5: into play. But I like Banfield, man, I really like

1650
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 5: the look of this guy.

1651
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: Is here for the first time.

1652
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 5: I can say that I'd like the look of Will

1653
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 5: Bamfield out the plate because of how simplistic that he is.

1654
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's legitimate, and I think.

1655
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 5: His improvement is finally showing. I mean, this is a

1656
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 5: prep catcher. It took him a while to show it. Yeah,

1657
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 5: but I think I think with with what he's shown

1658
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 5: at the plate this year and the changes that he's made,

1659
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 5: I think that this is actually legitimate.

1660
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty close to the other end of the spectrum.

1661
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: There no thank you four walks in forty eight games

1662
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 3: for Will Banfield.

1663
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what, but I mean.

1664
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: With I would like to I'll keep it short. I'd

1665
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 3: like to see him moved up to Triple A, to

1666
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 3: face different pictures, to go in a different environment and

1667
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: see if he continues to The overall offensive numbers are

1668
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 3: pretty decent, especially relative to his career norms, and for

1669
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: the catcher position. I just have to say, moved up

1670
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: to triple at different surroundings and see if he continues

1671
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 3: to have the same overall performance. Even so, I'm I'm

1672
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: super skeptical about him being able to hit in the

1673
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: big leagues. I think I don't think he's going to

1674
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: be able to simply put put the bat on the

1675
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 3: ball against big league pitching. So yeah, so that I'll

1676
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 3: keep it simple of that, moving up to Triple A,

1677
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: bring back Paul p. Mack to Pensacola for a little bit,

1678
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: and then we'll figure it out. It's yeah, not super

1679
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 3: duper excited, right.

1680
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 5: I think that there's definitely variant and yesterday doesn't walk

1681
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 5: a lot. Fine, you're right, You're absolutely right. But what

1682
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 5: I would say is that, you know, even if this

1683
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 5: guy hits two thirty in the big leagues, you take

1684
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 5: it because of how good he is on defense, You

1685
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 5: take it. You take that, and I don't think that

1686
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 5: far away. But like I said, he's shown a lot

1687
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 5: of improvement, and I still don't think it's a finished product.

1688
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 5: It's like, I really don't would be comfortable calling him

1689
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 5: up right now. No, But what I would say is

1690
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 5: I don't think that this guy is far away from

1691
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 5: contributing if he can continue to grow into this new

1692
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 5: stands as new approach. I think he's pretty good man.

1693
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 5: And I really don't I don't understand the call up

1694
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 5: to Triple A. I mean yet, I know you face

1695
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 5: off against maybe some former major league talent, but that's

1696
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 5: probably fringe major league talent and the Marlins. And this

1697
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 5: is the main topic for me when I'm looking at

1698
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 5: things right now, and I'll be sure on this, but

1699
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 5: they don't seem to think that Triple A is a

1700
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 5: necessary step because look at the roster that's in Triple A.

1701
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 5: It's it's no way like there. There's there's very few

1702
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 5: of their top organizational guys in Triple A. And I

1703
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 5: think that's for a reason.

1704
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's an industry thing, I believe. You know, even

1705
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 9: before this Arnser group, they never really you know, the

1706
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 9: new oralanstephyrs. They never really had some of the top

1707
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 9: of the way.

1708
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

1709
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 5: At least in those situations it was farther away, Like

1710
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 5: New Orleans was farther away, Albuquerque was even farther away.

1711
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: They're in Jacksonville, Florida. Like I mean, I've talked to

1712
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 1: people about.

1713
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 5: This, like, why why do they not use triple A

1714
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 5: as the most advanced level. They don't, they use double it.

1715
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 5: They're they're using double A as the most advanced level

1716
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 5: in the.

1717
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: System because you know, the biggest jump. Yeah, it's the

1718
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: biggest jump. Yeah.

1719
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 5: But at triple A, like I said, you have guys

1720
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 5: that have been in the Major league, You have guys

1721
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 5: that have experience in.

1722
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: The major leagues.

1723
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 5: You get a lot of rehabbers there, so I mean

1724
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 5: you kind of get a better taste of, maybe a

1725
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 5: little bit of a better taste of what a guy's

1726
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 5: gonna do in mide. Well, the Marlins don't do it

1727
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 5: that way.

1728
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's here.

1729
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,879
Speaker 9: Regarding Banfield's late discipline, I guess lack of walks because

1730
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 9: you would think that in triple A it would be

1731
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 9: even less. He'd walk even less at Triple A, much

1732
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 9: less the major league. So I think I'm sure you

1733
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 9: can agree with me that it would be a long

1734
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 9: shot that he would be able to hit major league

1735
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 9: pitching it I think hitting two thirty, so it's a

1736
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 9: pipe tream for him to hit.

1737
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: As of right now, unless say I.

1738
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 5: Would disagree with that thirty. He continue Stuart right now, ye,

1739
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 5: right now, if you if you would call him up

1740
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 5: to the Marlins right now, yes, I would agree with you,

1741
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 5: would hit one thirty well, yes, right now, I agree

1742
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 5: with you, which is now, right now is.

1743
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: Not the right time. But I think his overall projection,

1744
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: he took you back.

1745
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's still young when he turned eighteen and when

1746
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 9: they drafted him, so I was, yeah.

1747
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: Of course he's a high schooler. So yeah, is he

1748
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two something like that, twenty I assume

1749
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: twenty two.

1750
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 9: If you graduated two years after me, twenty two, right,

1751
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean still there's a possibility.

1752
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 5: I'm really encouraged by the improvement. I think he could

1753
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 5: get there eventually. Right now is the wrong time, Yes,

1754
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 5: I would agree with that, But if he keeps shutting

1755
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 5: with you now, I think there's a.

1756
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: Pass for that to actually happen. For it, Jeff mathis

1757
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: pipe projection best case scenario.

1758
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 5: I think it's over that, but that's me Elil Party disagree,

1759
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 5: but I think it's better than that.

1760
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's a great to vendor. I wouldn't

1761
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: say he's necessarily Jeff matthis level of all encompassing floor

1762
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: raising for all your pitchers. I think. I think in

1763
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 3: some ways Jeff Mathis would be a little bit of

1764
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: a reach just because of how a special Mathis was defensively. Yeah, anyway,

1765
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that for this season,

1766
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 3: he's not going to be a factor here and for

1767
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,520
Speaker 3: this seam. If Jacob Stallings does not continue to gradually

1768
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 3: improve as they lead up to the trade deadline, it's

1769
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 3: going to be a fascinating decision to make. Because Fortes

1770
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: thankfully is putting together consistent play for a while now,

1771
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: but they do not have They don't really have a

1772
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 3: good quality backup, and they certainly don't have a third

1773
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 3: stringer at the catchup position that you feel confident in

1774
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 3: helping you win games down the stretch of this season.

1775
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: I agree. So we'll bring in Ryan here, super subscriber, perk.

1776
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: We get him in, loading him in. He's always got

1777
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: some good questions. So Ryan, how are you and what's

1778
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: your question? What's going on? Guys?

1779
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 4: So unfortunately, I was very busy this weekend. I'm in

1780
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 4: Connecticut and I wasn't able to really watch any of

1781
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 4: the three games. I was at the Mets game on

1782
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 4: Friday night, and I missed pretty much the entire Marlins game,

1783
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 4: and I got a little glimpse of the game on Saturday,

1784
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: and then I didn't watch any of the game today.

1785
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to ask you guys, what's the

1786
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 4: biggest takeaway from this series against the Nationals that you

1787
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 4: wouldn't really be able to see from just looking at

1788
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 4: box scores.

1789
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: It's a good question. Yeah, I don't know there's one

1790
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: main takeaway. I feel like there's a lot of little ones.

1791
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, I would say the bigger takeaway is that

1792
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: the Nats are who we thought they were, or it

1793
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: seemed that it was kind of interesting early in the year,

1794
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 3: the first quarter of the season. I felt like a

1795
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 3: lot of these games they kind of pissed away in

1796
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 3: this series finale. Working backwards Patrick Corbin, he was lucky

1797
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 3: to only give up four runs in this one. He

1798
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 3: was so eminently hittable in this game, constantly getting behind

1799
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: him in the count, allowing a lot of line drives.

1800
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 3: I think just about any team could have beaten Corbin

1801
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 3: in this series finale. Going backwards to yesterday's game, the

1802
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 3: defense was pretty sloppy from the Gnats in there, allowing

1803
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 3: the Marlins to get more than they probably should have

1804
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 3: in that situation. The Marlins were just one for nine

1805
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 3: with runners in scoring position, and yet put up those

1806
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: five runs. And I'm not entirely sure how there were

1807
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 3: some really bad pitch execution by the Nats. Chad Cool

1808
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 3: he walked in a free runner with the bases loaded,

1809
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 3: and then he led an additional run score on a

1810
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 3: wild pitch, and then he yeah, even on on Friday,

1811
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: more the same that. Even though you want to be

1812
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 3: something flattering the Marlins, I'd say the bigger takeaway from

1813
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: the series was how non competitive the Nats are that

1814
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 3: I think soon enough you're gonna be talking about them

1815
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: in a similar vein as the Royals and the Athletics.

1816
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 3: Despite their record being far superior at this moment, they

1817
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 3: just are really struggling from a pitch execution standpoint and

1818
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 3: from a defensive standpoint. And they don't even have like

1819
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 3: a single hitter in their lineup that you really fear

1820
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: on a consistent basis. It's it's a pretty bad team.

1821
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 2: Kevin would tell you, candell Ario, he would fear. He

1822
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 2: would try and tell you that just a joke, But

1823
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Lozarda looked good on the road for the first.

1824
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: Time in quite some time. Today he might be all

1825
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: deepot part merchant.

1826
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: We'll see he does get start they get to Pittsburgh,

1827
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see what he does when

1828
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 2: he comes back home. But this weekend, and you know,

1829
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: he bracts some more good stuff. I just think it's

1830
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: about stepping up. How are you going to step up?

1831
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 2: Because were La Marlins down in every single game this weekend?

1832
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: Or was it just two?

1833
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 3: They weren't down in the sandy start. They got ahead,

1834
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: and they gave the lead back, and got ahead and

1835
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: gave the lean back, but they never trailed in that one.

1836
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: You know, you don't think I don't know.

1837
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 9: If you mentioned it, you don't think Fortees was a

1838
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 9: big takeaway from this series, just you know, putting the

1839
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 9: ball and play and everything. I know it's against a

1840
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 9: Nationals pitching stuff that was just bad. But still that

1841
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 9: was nice to see.

1842
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well he looked good against Corbyn, as a

1843
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 3: lot of guys do hitting against Patrick Corbyn. Yeah, that

1844
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 3: was fine, that's fine. We've already we've seen that from him.

1845
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm generally pretty excited about Fortes overall. He

1846
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 3: just he needs some help at that position on the

1847
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: days that he's not gonna.

1848
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite takeaways from this series is,

1849
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: I think, God, this.

1850
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: Road trip is over.

1851
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad the Marlins are back, and hold, that was

1852
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: a long road trip. I feel like I haven't watched

1853
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: the game at wendiebo Park in like a month. That

1854
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 2: was a super long road trip, and now games will

1855
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 2: be back at normal times.

1856
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean that Seattle series was a drag, and I

1857
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: guess it.

1858
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't bad this weekend since DC was East Coast, but

1859
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 2: three time zones, three series.

1860
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: I mean that that was quite the road trip for

1861
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: the Marlins. Definitely glad they're going to be back.

1862
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 4: Question No, I don't have any other questions, but thanks

1863
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 4: for letting me on, and anyone listening make sure to

1864
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 4: go become a fish on for super subscriber.

1865
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: That's right, That is right, that's our guy right there.

1866
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: Than'd be very much right, And you gotta listen to

1867
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: the man. You gotta become a super subscriber. I see

1868
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Kevin out there. I'm I'm gonna give him a speak.

1869
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I was just now.

1870
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 2: Looking through the reply saw one of Devin's suggestions. It

1871
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 2: was kind of like a Kevin esque suggestion that Wilson

1872
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: well May well man, I don't know how you say

1873
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 2: his name, just because I don't like to talk about

1874
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: the guy because he sucks. He just got to be

1875
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: a fad by the Rockies, the Nelson Lamette thank you.

1876
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: I have a hard time pronouncing stuff, which is probably

1877
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: bad for someone who wants to go in the broadcasting.

1878
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 1: But he's been terrible this year. And Devin asked Marlin's

1879
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: taking a flyer on him. No, absolutely not. No. I

1880
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 1: mean I know this is kind of silly, but I

1881
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: looked at.

1882
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: His numbers in the fantasy app the other day. He

1883
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 2: has negative points every start. I mean that's enough to

1884
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: be this guy's a negative asset. I the Marlins should

1885
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: definitely not take a flyer on. And Kevin, I want

1886
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: to pick on you. I was a very Kevin suggestion

1887
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: they should not take a flyer off.

1888
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Just generally in years past, when somebody got DFA as

1889
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: a Marlins fan, you would point to them and say,

1890
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 3: maybe he's somebody who could try out. He's got some

1891
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 3: interesting aspects to it. But this team is better. This

1892
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: team is better than they've been in these several years.

1893
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 3: If somebody is getting cut by another team. They are

1894
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 3: probably not good enough to help the Marlins immediately at

1895
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 3: the major league level right now, because the Marlins themselves

1896
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: are better than most other major league teams. I think

1897
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 3: it's really that simple. It's a well rounded team as

1898
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: well as we know. You know, the one glaring deficiency

1899
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: at this exact moment is their rotation. But those are

1900
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 3: also the type of players that are least likely to

1901
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: get cut by a team. If you're like a stretch

1902
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 3: out as a starting pitcher, you have to be really

1903
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 3: awful to get simply dfade at any point, and Lamett

1904
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 3: kind of falls into that category where he had been

1905
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 3: just truly unusable for a team in the Rockies that

1906
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 3: was desperate itself for starting pitching. This is not a

1907
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: team that's going to be making many DFA claims at

1908
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 3: all this year because this team is simply has more

1909
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 3: talents than most of those other teams. I think people

1910
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: need to get used to that thinking, because the old

1911
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 3: way of thinking, the rebuilding Marlin's way of thinking is

1912
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 3: that the waiver wire is an interesting place. Not anymore.

1913
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: That's no, They've risen above that dumpster diving mentality, in

1914
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 3: my opinion, I.

1915
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 9: Mean, look how it worked with Gary Sanchez and the Padres.

1916
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 9: I'm sure they can maybe hit strike gold with one

1917
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 9: of these DFA guys.

1918
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 10: I mean the broken clocks right twice a day, enough

1919
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 10: ship at the wall, and eventually some of it will

1920
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 10: stick exactly a broken clocks for exactly so you know,

1921
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 10: not that la Mette is the guy at all.

1922
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I really am not an advocate for that.

1923
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 9: If you're smart, if you're smarter than other teams, you

1924
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 9: pick up their trash and it works out for you

1925
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 9: like the Rays do. And you know, hopefully they are

1926
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 9: keeping their eyes and ears open for players that are

1927
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 9: df FAID.

1928
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: But not in Nelselett police, we.

1929
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 2: Got we've got one more requests here, we'll do last

1930
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: calls on speaking requests for kind of a one running

1931
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: out of time to running out of we want to time.

1932
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: We'll get Alex and chairs and here Kevin wants me

1933
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 2: to shout him out. He starts college tomorrow, summer semesters,

1934
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: so our babies all growing up. Waitit, wait, hold on, are.

1935
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: You sure that's not sixth grade?

1936
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: Are you sure it's college? He got promoted to sixth grade?

1937
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: Yet he's somehow taking your college class tomorrow. I don't

1938
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: know why Florida International University let him do that, But

1939
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: sixth graders, man, I.

1940
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Think there's a type in the system over there. I

1941
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. Yeah, I mean, I don't

1942
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: know why why they let this kid in. But uh

1943
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: shout out to Kevin Big first day of school tomorrow. Yeah,

1944
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: I still got mister Alex and Trairs.

1945
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: Let again, then again once again, last call on any

1946
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: question to try and get out of here.

1947
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: I feel like last few of these that we've gone

1948
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: an hour and a half.

1949
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: But it's all right. There's nothing else really going on tonight.

1950
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 2: A lot of people have the day off work tomorrow.

1951
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: Thank you all for tuning in. Of course, we'll give

1952
01:29:59,600 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: it like an.

1953
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: Other minn so if if ox can't load in here.

1954
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: But it's another important week for the Marlins, as we said,

1955
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: I'll reiterate it.

1956
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: And Blue Jays are a good team and the Pirates

1957
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: they are struggling right now. I think it's a very

1958
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: good opportunity for for the.

1959
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Marlins to strike on a team that's struggling right now.

1960
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: Definitely don't want to be that team that someone gets

1961
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: it together against. If you want to really look even

1962
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 2: further ahead, next week. They the Marlins got a Fenway.

1963
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: That'll be fun.

1964
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 2: We will have on site coverage app family know what

1965
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 2: Burger will be there for us. Should be pretty cool.

1966
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 2: What number ballpark is that for us?

1967
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 3: Now?

1968
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: You lie.

1969
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 3: For this season or forever, ever.

1970
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 2: Forever and anyone Fish on first, last Fish Stripes member

1971
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 2: has set foot in.

1972
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 3: I think it might be nine or ten. That's my ballpark,

1973
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 3: guess some of them, some of the eleven.

1974
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: So to close it out, I can actually because Alec yeah,

1975
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 2: because I'm having an important point I have.

1976
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: I have a question actually for Isaac as dude, so

1977
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: I know that this is this guy.

1978
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 5: I know he made a big league debut today, So

1979
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna have a question for Isaac.

1980
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Isaac, what is your.

1981
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:22,799
Speaker 5: Expectation or maybe fellow major league comp for Jacob Amia.

1982
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: I'll have to do a little bit more thinking on

1983
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: the comp. But my expectation for Amaya is that he's

1984
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 1: gonna be here for the rest of the season.

1985
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 7: Right.

1986
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play himself into a role.

1987
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 9: That they just can't set him down. He's gonn play

1988
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 9: himself into that Garret Hampson John Berry role. He runs

1989
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 9: well enough where I think he'll get enough playing time

1990
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 9: and he's gonna be a defensive replacement type player who

1991
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 9: crushes left handed pitching. If you read my season preview

1992
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 9: on Jacob Amayah, this is someone that.

1993
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Just crushed it last year.

1994
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 9: I guess left handed pitching, you're just crushed all high

1995
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 9: levels of the minor leagues.

1996
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: And I liked the approach.

1997
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 9: I know it was Patrick Korban, but you know what

1998
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 9: that's a it's a major league pitcher that he had

1999
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 9: really great advants. I was able to watch the first

2000
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 9: three and I watch the fourth played appearance, but I'm

2001
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 9: very excited about this young player.

2002
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I think he's got one of the higher floors. I

2003
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's got a tremendously high ceiling like.

2004
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 9: We've mentioned previously, but I think he's got a relatively

2005
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 9: high floor offensively, and the glove is already major league ready,

2006
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 9: and that's.

2007
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Got goal globe potential. Obviously.

2008
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 9: By goal glob, I don't think he's ever going to

2009
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 9: win one, because I don't think he's gonna be an

2010
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 9: everyday starter realistically, but I think he's got a relatively

2011
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 9: high floor where he'll be a major leaguer for.

2012
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: A long time. I'm very excited about this young player.

2013
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm excited about him as well.

2014
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 1: But I know he he made use of the conditions

2015
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville.

2016
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 5: Fortune right field, you know, and a couple of other

2017
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 5: things that happened in Jacksonville where the ball kind of kind.

2018
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Of flies all little bit there.

2019
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it's I think it's a neutralized environment.

2020
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 5: But he made the most of right field. So my

2021
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 5: question for you, my last question and my follow up

2022
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 5: question would be over under five home runs for the

2023
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 5: rest of the season for Amaya. I always say under,

2024
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 5: but I'll go ahead. I get over four and a

2025
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 5: half home runs. I say over pre season bold prediction

2026
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 5: was over.

2027
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: Twelve and a half.

2028
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 9: I think that might be I thought he would have

2029
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 9: been called up by now earlier in the season, but

2030
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 9: I think over four and a half is an easy over.

2031
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 9: He's got a little bit of pop and like I

2032
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 9: said in the tweet where he was called up this morning,

2033
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 9: bag no miss sorry, Yesterda'm sorry.

2034
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: Make no mistake. He is a glove first prospect.

2035
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 9: He is a glove oriented shortstop that just happens to

2036
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 9: be just crushing the ball right now in a very

2037
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 9: hitter friendly environment at Jacksonville, So you know everyone tweeting

2038
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 9: out his crazy stats the last five weeks or six weeks. Yes,

2039
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 9: he's just happened to be crushing. Doesn't necessarily mean he's

2040
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 9: gonna slash three thirty four seventy and five ten. But

2041
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 9: I think he'll hit two sixty three ten, three eighty

2042
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 9: three ninety slugging and be able to crush a couple

2043
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 9: over the wall even at lone Depo Park. You know,

2044
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 9: if John Burdie could hit it over the leftfield wall,

2045
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 9: I think Jacob Maya can as well. Megeo Rojas had

2046
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 9: a power surgeon in twenty nineteen. Think Miguel Rojas. What

2047
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 9: year was it that we comped into. I think it

2048
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 9: was twenty fifteen, Miguill Rojas, Sugar let me all disfermations

2049
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 9: that get back to you, but it was one like, okay,

2050
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 9: you're bil Rollas.

2051
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 3: That would be my mentorally for I have another comp

2052
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 3: for him. I'll give you Nick Ahmed the Diamondbacks. Ah yeah,

2053
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 3: he scaled down the defense a little bit because Ahmed

2054
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 3: has had a couple of years where he's truly been

2055
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 3: off the charts on that side of the ball. But

2056
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 3: I think offensively that that's kind of what you're looking

2057
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 3: at with him, where everything goes right, he could push

2058
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 3: for twenty home runs at his peak. I think ordinarily

2059
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 3: it's going to be a little less than that, and

2060
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 3: the point time could be a bit erratic. But Ahmed

2061
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 3: just like him, alrighty hitter who when he even when

2062
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 3: he's not playing every day, I think he still has

2063
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 3: value when he's facing lefties in his career. Yeah, actually,

2064
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 3: Nick Ahmed has been an above average hitter against lefties

2065
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 3: in his major league career. I think that I like

2066
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 3: that comp with you know, you scale down the defensive

2067
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 3: expectations a little bit because Ahmed's been off the charts

2068
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 3: and had a couple of points.

2069
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 9: Of his career.

2070
01:34:55,600 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: What what he sorry that? What? What are your thoughts

2071
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: Isaac about him wearing JJ Bled's old number. I think

2072
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,719
Speaker 1: they're doing him a huge service. I was very upset

2073
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: to see that.

2074
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 9: I think you don't want to put that bad juju

2075
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 9: on this young player who you're very excited again. I

2076
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 9: can't believe Kim and got Jacob Omeyer for Miguel Rojas.

2077
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 9: It was this accurate that he's already has a higher

2078
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 9: war than Maggie Rowe this year.

2079
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how I think Maggie

2080
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: row is negative.

2081
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 9: So right, okay, so yeah, that was a stupid tweet

2082
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 9: that I saw, right of course. But yeah, I don't

2083
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 9: like that number sixty seven unless that's the number he chose.

2084
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: Maybe it's in Jordan mccerson's story, unless it's the number

2085
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: he chose. And fine, but I don't like that at all.

2086
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 1: They're just putting bad juju in the air. I'm not

2087
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: a fan of that.

2088
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 9: You you don't want to do one failed prospects and

2089
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 9: give that number to another one.

2090
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: That's I don't hold his jersey and he should be Okay,

2091
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: I'll be asked. I'll be back to ask.

2092
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 5: Isaac more questions when Jacob Barry makes his Major League

2093
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 5: to be thinking that's.

2094
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: All I happened. I don't know, Jacob Arry will I'll say.

2095
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 2: All right, we got Sean here. This is going to

2096
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: be our last viewer request here. You got him in

2097
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: justin time. He is and be a super subscriber. And

2098
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: by the way, I did do a quick account while

2099
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: you guys were discussing. Bemway Park will be our tent.

2100
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 2: The ballpark really service. We an entire almost of the

2101
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 2: entire NL least.

2102
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: The only one we missed Phy Miss Philly.

2103
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah that was in a Philly a couple of times.

2104
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, Fay will be our tent and I don't

2105
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: know Glad anymore this season, but it's it's been a

2106
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 2: fun journey. So Barlow love doing the road coverage for

2107
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 2: you guys. As someone who lives who doesn't live in Miamia,

2108
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: I enjoy being able to see the Marlins wherever I

2109
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 2: can find him.

2110
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: So Sean, what's your question night, sir?

2111
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 11: Hey guys, this kind of fits so speaking of ballparks,

2112
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 11: I floated this question on the Marlin's radio broadcast this

2113
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 11: morning next to the world to have a Swing, and

2114
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 11: Funny caught that and I was wondering, what do you

2115
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 11: expect for attendance this week? Do you think we have

2116
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 11: less distractions going on from other teams? And hey, the

2117
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 11: heat didn't even get deals, so one last thing to

2118
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 11: worry about there. All we have to do down there

2119
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 11: is watch the Marlins and wait for messengers used to trap.

2120
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 11: Do you think that will be an upticking attendance at

2121
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 11: the ballpark.

2122
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Or no more? As well? Local guys, will there be

2123
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: more people?

2124
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I know that that you asked this while

2125
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 5: you were well, you were having fun I think with

2126
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 5: your daughter on a suede that, which was pretty funny.

2127
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: Kyle was like, what are you doing? It's really but I'll.

2128
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 5: Give you an honest answer, Sean, and I would say, no,

2129
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 5: I do not expect there to be an uptacking attendance.

2130
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be same old, same oled.

2131
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,560
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be the same kind of

2132
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 5: crowds until this team as actually playing playoff games or

2133
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 5: maybe is playing very meaningful games very late in the

2134
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 5: season that are going to determine whether they make the

2135
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 5: playoffs or not.

2136
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: This sports market is what it is.

2137
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 5: We all know it to be. What it is that

2138
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 5: people will only show up. The Panthers went through it,

2139
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 5: The Dolphins pretty much go through it every year. The

2140
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 5: Marlins has gone through it for a very long time.

2141
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 5: This this sports market only shows up when you've either

2142
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 5: proven that you're winning games and you're playing meaningful games

2143
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 5: late in the season, or you're in the playoffs. And

2144
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 5: the Marlins are not close to either one of those yet. Yes,

2145
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 5: they've had a good stretch. Yes they're ten games over. Yes,

2146
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,719
Speaker 5: we as diehard fans know that that is a huge

2147
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 5: win for the organization, especially with where they're at.

2148
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: With advanced stats. Is it sustainable, That's what we need

2149
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: to see.

2150
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 5: But until it is sustainable, and until they prove that

2151
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 5: they're going to be playing meaningful games late in a

2152
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 5: season and not less than halfway through a season, the

2153
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 5: fans are not going to show up in droves.

2154
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 1: So no, I do not expect the difference.

2155
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'll say is that even the secondary factors

2156
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 3: are not in their favor for this particular week. The opponents,

2157
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,839
Speaker 3: the Blue Jays and the Pirates, those are not teams

2158
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 3: that really draw a whole lot of crowds from South Florida.

2159
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot of people that have strong

2160
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 3: affinities for those among those that are living down here.

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Speaker 3: So there's that aspect of it. Even from a marketing perspective.

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Speaker 3: On an individual level, the fact that you have a

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01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,560
Speaker 3: couple bullpen games during this home stands on Monday and

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Speaker 3: then very likely again on Saturday, you know, the starting

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Speaker 3: pitching is not going to sell all that much. In

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Speaker 3: this aspect, I don't think Jazz is going to be

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Speaker 3: back until the very end of the weekend if that

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Speaker 3: they don't have him to like draw you in the

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Speaker 3: right direction. That's on top of the main thing, as

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Speaker 3: Carver pointed out, the way that this market behaves, and

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Speaker 3: the fact that I don't think there's a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of season ticket holders in the first place for this

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Speaker 3: team that are suddenly going to use those tickets that

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Speaker 3: weren't already before they already just entering this season, there

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01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 3: was not a whole lot of that ticket holder fan

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Speaker 3: base as it was, and that will go up a

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Speaker 3: lot if they make the playoffs heading into next year.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think you really see that big uptick

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Speaker 3: until they actually accomplish something, something tangible more so than

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01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 3: just getting hot for a period of time, Until they

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Speaker 3: have that milestone, likely being that playoff berth, Until they

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Speaker 3: have something like that that they can point to that

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Speaker 3: gets people to like come out on a consistent basis.

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Speaker 3: It's not as if they're going to draw a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of individual people on a whim just because of

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Speaker 3: a streak of recent play. In my estimation, is that.

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Speaker 11: All you got, Sean, Yeah, that was a lot of

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Speaker 11: take on that. I'd agree it would be a lot better.

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Speaker 11: If this is the Braves and Mets week in September,

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Speaker 11: that is high prediction is they get an average.

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Speaker 2: Of six hundred and fifty more fans for this home stand.

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Speaker 2: It is an increase, but it's not a big one.

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Speaker 2: Any final parting thoughts before we end.

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Speaker 9: This, The last thing I'd say is that if the

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Speaker 9: Blue Jay if the series were switched and Pittsburgh was

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Speaker 9: during the week and the Blue Jays were on the weekend,

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Speaker 9: you would see a little bit of an.

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Speaker 1: Uptick in attendance. I think.

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Speaker 9: I think, I think the Blue Jays have enough names

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01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 9: that it would it would bring a few more fans

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Speaker 9: than usual. It's like Flaid, Bobichez leading the league and hits.

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Speaker 9: I think that would have done. Has a lot of

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01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 9: former Marlins in that Blue Jays bullpit as well, so

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01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 9: maybe that could bring draw more.

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Speaker 1: Diehards as well. Speaking of speaking of former Marlins, the

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Speaker 1: very last thing to point out is that the flatback

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Speaker 1: Friday has the all time staves leader.

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Speaker 5: No, Kevin, he does not have three hundred saves, but

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Speaker 5: he does have like over one hundred. That was a

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Speaker 5: Kevin joke from a previous Jeopardy. Unless any of you

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01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 5: guys caught that I don't know, but yeah, this all

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01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 5: Times Staves leader in Marlin's history is robnn will be

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01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,480
Speaker 5: there and so will Preston Wilson. So some cool alumnis

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01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 5: to uh to check out for fans and go handshakes

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Speaker 5: and whatever it may be.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the marketing stuff is on the upswing.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I think there's also a bobblehead this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if I'm not mistaken. So they're doing

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01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: what they can. But yeah, Sean, and it's can happen

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Speaker 1: till they do something that's it.

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Speaker 2: I actually highly, highly highly suggest going to the ballpark

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Speaker 2: on Friday because Apple TV.

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Speaker 1: Has that game.

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01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 2: So if you don't have Apple TV, don't like their

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01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 2: broadcasts and our free Friday Night, which I'm definitely those

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01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: first two, go out to the ballpark.

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Speaker 1: It should be a good game.

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Speaker 2: Again, like Alex said, flashback Fridays, and you can watch

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Speaker 2: it from the ballpark rather than your phone or your.

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Speaker 1: Apple TV stick. I think it's a good idea, so

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Speaker 1: we'll leave it at that. We'll do the same time

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening once again, and hopefully we

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Speaker 2: come back to another over five hundred week for the Marlins,

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Speaker 2: and

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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys this time next week.