1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: When you watch the game now. And I disagree with 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people, but do you think the game 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: has evolved? I don't think it has. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: The basics of the game has anyvice. The basics is 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: still the basics of the game. You gotta be able 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: to defend, you gotta be able to score, you gotta 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: reband and out of black shots, got to communicate, you 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: gotta be fit. 9 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 3: Like those are the basics of the game. 10 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: I just think this generation, these younger players, like they 11 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: took our skill set and evolved it. Like it just 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: they elevated this. It's you know, we had guys who 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: do a step back. We didn't have guys that do 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: a double step back. We have guys that do a 15 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: triple step back. And let me tell you why I disagree. 16 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: And I get hated on this or this, But if 17 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: I can't take you until y'all can play with us, 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's evolved. 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: That's just me. That's just like I see what the 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: guys are doing. But if you couldn't play, yeah, if 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: you couldn't come in the garden against you know, yeah, 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: that's my point. 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: That's what percent your bar. 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean, you're and by the way, this is the 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: this is the crazy thing. I'm a Kings fan too, 26 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 4: and you're really with us. You could break dance to 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: to be your size and. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 5: It's not fair. 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Man. 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: He was hip hop, you know when you talk about 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: hip hop and that the. 32 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: Different but. 33 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: The old heads of man because the game is evolved, 34 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: like evolved. I have a question. I used to hate 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: on Luca for the longest and then I've seen him 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: play live. I know he's really that good, But how 37 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: come people can't stop him? 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: He's not really evolved. 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: No, but he's not really fast. He don't have a 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: lot of lift, but he'd be busting everybody up. Like 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, bro chat, it's just you know 42 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: what's happening. 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 4: But then, but then explain how they do that with Steph. 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: Steph is like a smurf. You're like, just body him, 45 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: body him up right? 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: So take Steph for an example. 47 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: He expanded the game, yeah, right out, you know where 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: it's guys who expanded the game vertical. He expanded the 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: game out. We had guys who was coming off screens, 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: pinned downs, shooting out the ball, you know, like the 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: Reggies of the world, and like we had those pure shooters. 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 5: He's shooting from forty feet out. 53 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: He took that and went to half court with it. 54 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: You've never guarded nobody. We used to get mad at 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: guards picking up guys at half court. 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: Man pick up and then drop back hills to the three. 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: You can't do that with Steph right, he's. 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: Shooting the minute he's coming across half course. So if that, 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: let's not tell you the game has evolved. 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 6: From a where you're looking at scorers on the floor 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 6: and going that far back like you make a point 62 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 6: being that deep. 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 5: Could play faced up to the basket. 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't do that. 65 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: How would you? 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: I would love to play Now, I'm gonna tell you why. 67 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: Every time Jokers shot her three, I'm gonna run right 68 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: past them and post up in the middle of line 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: and play my game. I'm not gonna shoot it, and 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be doing a whole bunch of pick 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: and roll. I'm gonna boom, They're gonna double me and 72 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: then kick to my guy. I'm not changing my game. 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna the only way I would shoot a 74 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: three is if we're up ten to fifteen points. But 75 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to defend and and Joeker as great 76 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: as it is, you missed in trouble because now you're 77 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to sprint back. Everybody's gonna sprint back, and 78 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna focus on me. I'm gonna get double, I'm 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: gonna kick it to the Mellow, I'm gonna kick it 80 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: to t Max. So I would still be me. And 81 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: remember I'm the first big dude to bring it up 82 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: with style and charisma. So it ain't like you you know, 83 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: don't what I'm saying, Like you know, people like you 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: know people when they talk about it if I could 85 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: have played, they talk as if I was a stiff. 86 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I was the first big guy to go coast to 87 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: coast with it. Well, actually second and King did it 88 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: for But I had, like you said, I had hip 89 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: hop on mine. 90 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: So I would. 91 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Definitely do more of that, definitely do more drible hands out. 92 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: But I'm not facing up and doing all that. Yeah 93 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: you don't, I know, Yeah you don't have to. 94 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: But that's my point, right, Like when I go back 95 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: to what I said earlier, as the game has evolved, right, 96 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: because the game is evolving, but it's evolved so much 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: that it's going away from certain aspects of the game 98 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: right where. That's why I said the basics of the game, 99 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: the foundation of the game is still the same. You 100 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: still have to be able to score on the block 101 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: if you get the ball. You still have to be 102 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: able to play at the elbow. You still have to 103 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: be able to shoot a three. These are all the 104 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: basics of the game. They taking away two of those 105 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: basics of the game, the block and the mid range. 106 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: They taking away that because it's space, it's paced, it's 107 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: how fast you could play, it's how high you can jump, 108 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: how many points you could score. So because of that, 109 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: you take away from the actual true essence of the 110 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: game of basketball. So that's why it's hard for me 111 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: to say somebody plays or have similarities, because they don't. 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: They don't operate the same way. I can't see nobody 113 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: in the triangle offense today, and so and and and 114 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: this is something that I used to always have a 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: problem with because I know I studied the triangle so much. 116 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: It's like, I know, you got to have a team 117 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: to run a triangle. 118 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 2: You gotta have a post man, you gotta have a guard. 119 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: I know all that, and you know the intricate parts 120 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: of it is. 121 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: It really as brilliant as people say. 122 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: Brilliant, it's one of the most brilliant inventions because I 123 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: hear I hear them thank you text like thank you text, 124 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: because that's one of the greatest, and he's one with it. 125 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: I only had the opportunity to experience it, but from 126 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: the far I've experienced it, being a student of the game, 127 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: I had to learn, damn, what the what is this? 128 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Like? 129 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: This is immaculate, like you can't stop this. Then once 130 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: you get it, it's clockword. 131 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: So that's why I say, who can play in that? 132 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: You don't see a lot of people who could play 133 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: in that type of system. 134 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead, please more brilliant, especially when you got two 135 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: or three guys that go outside the system. Because when 136 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you talk about the triangle and everybody's scouting the triangle, 137 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: they'll say, Okay, he's gonna do this, he's gonna do it, 138 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: do that. But then when you got a guy like me, 139 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: like for example, when when when the ball goes to 140 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: the corner, I'm supposed to go out for the pick 141 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and roll, but I would say, no, I'm going to repost. 142 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: That's a repost. You know what I'm saying. It's a repost, 143 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I throw it out and a bunch of back people 144 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and there I go. So other guys like you know, 145 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: will produe when they throw it out. The guy cuts 146 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: out and they go set the picking roll for my 147 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and then you guys got like Kobe, Kobe and Mike 148 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: at the top of the keys saying move and then 149 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: you go to work. That's what really really got us. 150 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 6: Do you feel like that style of play will ever 151 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 6: make a comeback? 152 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: No, it's too for one is too tedious, right, you 153 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: have to teach it. 154 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: You have to teach every aspect of it. 155 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: And then everybody has to be on one accord and 156 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: it's like you string everybody move at the same time. 157 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: One false move could be a turnover. One false move 158 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: you're out of position, the wrong space, you're out of 159 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: If you one foot over, you. 160 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: Could be out of it. Like it's it's very precise 161 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: like that. 162 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: So I just don't see anybody willing to take that 163 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: chance today and put implement that system. You see it 164 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: though San Antonio, what you used to see it was 165 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: San Antonio Golden State. They still have triangle principles with 166 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Golden State. What do you think We've never seen nothing 167 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: like that? I never seen anything like that, was you You've. 168 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 7: Never statistical, never seen any statistical anomatrix legs behind the 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 7: back step back evolution of the game with grace, You've 170 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: never seen it. 171 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: What was Raymond doing? Why was he Why was he 172 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: guarding them in that play? 173 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: Why do that to yourself? 174 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: Because you know what I mean, because you know, like 175 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: being at the Nickelodeon Can Choice Awards and you're under 176 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: the brood. 177 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: But Grandma is really is a great post defensive place, 178 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: great like elite post defensive player, right, so he knows 179 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: nobody's going down there to night to night. 180 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: But it was just triggering for me, like because that's 181 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: someone who was bullying, was triggering for him to like now, 182 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: I was like, bring it back. 183 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: And then he did the thing. And to also be 184 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: cursed at in French and. 185 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: A foreign language. 186 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 5: It's just too much. 187 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: It was it was you know what I mean, I mean, 188 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: like I wanted to text him on that player. I 189 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I mean, but I could respect. 190 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: For Yeah, I mean you respect him for stepping He's 191 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: eight feet taller, he had the guts to step up. 192 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: I'm four times I have the guts to squash a bug. 193 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: What are you talking about, Because that's the respect. 194 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: That's the heartbeat. 195 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Though I respect the. 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: Heart, that's the heart beat. 197 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Draymond is the heart beat if I show that, Yeah, 198 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: I get that respect from Dre. 199 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: He's got the full gray and the beard to full. 200 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 5: Even mom fighting on you know what I'm saying, it 201 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 5: was a lot holding it down. 202 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: It was yeah, okay, I appreciate the insight and now 203 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: superhuman shock. 204 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: I keep telling him not to say that. 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