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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where

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Speaker 1: we aren't too cool to love seeing NFL Daily on

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Speaker 1: your Spotify rap list. Yes, I don't care that it's

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Speaker 1: just like a marketing gimmick.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, It's fun. It makes me feel good. We've been

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Speaker 2: doing this show for a while.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosthal in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio with

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Speaker 1: Steve Weiss and Patrick Claybon, and you know we're getting

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Speaker 1: to the end of the year. I'm a big end

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Speaker 1: of year list type of guys. I love seeing that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I love hearing from so many of the listeners

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Speaker 1: that made up for some lost time and still got

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Speaker 1: us to number one on their list.

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Speaker 3: You gotta love that. You gotta love it. Tell me

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Speaker 3: this real quick, speaking of your rap list. Does your

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Speaker 3: rap list is it like your workout playlist or what?

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Speaker 3: Because mine's like my workout playlist.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not listening to a whole lot of music, and

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Speaker 5: my commutes a very short now, so if I'm listening

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Speaker 5: to music, it's because I'm in the gym.

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Speaker 1: I play a lot of music when I'm when I'm

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Speaker 1: at home, Like if you're watching a little tape. But

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Speaker 1: you got some music on if I'm in the car,

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Speaker 1: certainly I don't go all podcasts. You got some music,

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Speaker 1: so it's all my music, not really workout music. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes your son, you know, uses your account. And then

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Speaker 1: suddenly Imagine Dragons is like their number three band of

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Speaker 1: the year, and you're like, yes, come on, bro, yeah

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Speaker 1: it's better. It's not better than the kids' music. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's killing Come on, Imagine Dragons, like just

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Speaker 1: killing it with eight to nine year old boys this

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Speaker 1: year after year. We're here for the Week fourteen preview.

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Speaker 1: Very excited about this one. It's our last week Patrick

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Speaker 1: with buys, so six byes this week. Your your Ravens

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Speaker 1: are finally off. My Patriots are finally left. So it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a lighter schedule.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The fantasy community bemoaning the fact that a lot of

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Speaker 5: people are dying to get in the playoffs and they're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to do it manage in waiver Meyer's folks,

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Speaker 5: starting Will Levis just just gotta try to make it

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Speaker 5: into the postseason in fake football. So let's go from

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Speaker 5: smallest to the biggest spread. We will start with a

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Speaker 5: huge game speaking to make it to the playoffs in

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Speaker 5: the NFC West.

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Speaker 4: It's the rematch from.

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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, the Seattle Seahawks at the

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals two and a half point favorites. We saw

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks play poorly early greg and then come back

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Speaker 5: and win. Just the only airs the Seahawks team to

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Speaker 5: make were catastrophic errors against the Jets. They managed to

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Speaker 5: win because they played the Jets. The Arizona Cardinals played

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Speaker 5: a much better team wilted late against the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: How do you see this one going?

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Speaker 1: I lean towards the Cardinals because when you play two

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Speaker 1: games in three weeks again and they're both good teams,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to sweep a team. If Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 1: loses this matchup to the Mike McDonald like that to

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Speaker 2: Be playing twice a year in theory for a while.

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Speaker 1: To come out swinging, and you take out the other

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Speaker 1: If the Seahawks win, And this is according to FTN

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Speaker 1: in Aaron shots. If the Seahawks win, they have a

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Speaker 1: the spread is similar for the Cardinals. If you win,

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Speaker 1: the math is saying there is, obviously, if the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: sweep the Cardinals, that's a huge advantage and probably there's

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Speaker 2: But if the.

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Speaker 3: Well right now, yeah, I mean, and you brought this

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Speaker 1: What happens on quarterback island stays on quarterback island.

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Speaker 4: We're good, We're good. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's it's a it's a lot of pressure for Gino, right,

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Speaker 1: Kyler got booted off.

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Speaker 3: a little angry. But I like the Arizona Cars.

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Speaker 3: And as far as the narrow margin of when you

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Speaker 5: I said it a couple of weeks ago when I

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Speaker 5: would take the home team Arizona Cardinals to win the

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Speaker 5: more in and to share my knowledge of the search

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Speaker 5: of the Arizona Cardinals. It's my affectionate nickname for guys

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Speaker 5: that make plays I'm like, who is that?

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Speaker 5: Meet Garrett Alexander Williams, a defensive back his second season

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Speaker 5: out of Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty good as a rick y Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Leads the team in interceptions. If teams are in three

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Speaker 5: He is Garrett is my name three at on Twitter

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Speaker 5: dot com. The three replaces the E and name. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I watched a lot of his snaps. He's a really

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Speaker 5: good football player. I'm glad I know his name now.

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Speaker 5: I hope more people appreciate him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he could be, you know, matching up at

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Speaker 1: getting up there when you look just like total yards

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is healthy. It's a tough matchup. Since week nine,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are third in the league and EPA per

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Speaker 1: So they have really turned things around. And what they

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Speaker 1: have to ask them to blitz, but the offensive line

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Speaker 1: it was a big problem. That's actually been a problem

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Speaker 3: And you know, these other Vikings very run, very lane

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Speaker 3: discipline blitzing. They weren't necessarily trying to get up field

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Speaker 3: to protect them. Let's get his eye let's get in

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Speaker 3: his passing lanes, get his eyesight. Let's be creative. That's

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Speaker 3: something that we could see real quick. Kudos to you

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Speaker 3: for saying that McDonald's could go Kyle Shanahan over Sean

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Speaker 3: McVay if he goes yea, he sweeps John gannon right here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: getting a little bit of that. Hey, I got your number.

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Speaker 1: Well, they brought McDonald's here to be kind of the

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Speaker 1: It's I think it's there is something to that with

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Speaker 2: I think so, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: Just it's harder to sell because there's the the friends

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Speaker 5: where everybody's on the same coaching staff. But yeah, despite that,

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Speaker 1: It is such a big game for the Cardinals because

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Speaker 1: they will they suddenly what would have been such a

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's really been excellent in those situations. If you

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Speaker 1: I give him some credit. We're on the flip side.

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen was killing Jonathan Gannon last week for kicking

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Speaker 1: that field goal to go up six with about three

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Speaker 1: if it is close at the end, you trust the

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Speaker 4: Great point.

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Speaker 5: Still looking forward to a great matchup. It's going to

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Speaker 1: And it's four oh five, by the way, like this

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Speaker 1: is that's the best game in the afternoon. It's the

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Speaker 4: No me.

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Speaker 5: It's it's worth noting time is these next two teams

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Speaker 4: For the playoff.

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Speaker 6: I thought you were gonna sell it, Patrick, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 6: Steve in Nashville, Tennessee, Will Levis and the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 6: three and a half point favorites over Mac Jones and

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Speaker 6: the Jacksonville Jaguars, the over under thirty nine and a

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Speaker 5: It's only thirty nine and a half points that the

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Speaker 5: experts believe, Steve, but every single one of those points

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Speaker 5: will be valuable because this quarterback matchup. It's still right,

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Speaker 5: we're not necessarily evaluating Mac Jones, evaluating Will Levis, who

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Speaker 5: didn't have a turnover against to watch the Commanders like

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Speaker 5: that week, but the offense did really have a lot

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Speaker 5: to speak of. By the way, I'm buying your igloo

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Speaker 5: in Alaska. Wait to sell it, well done.

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Speaker 3: The thirty nine and a half almost looks high to

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Speaker 3: This is like, all right, these guys are kind of

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Speaker 1: One thing that Titans can look to is their rookie

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Speaker 2: It's not just you know, the offense. That is one

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Speaker 4: Yea, that's just not having it.

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Speaker 2: In coaching. You gotta you've gotta play coach.

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Speaker 5: They adjusted earlier in the season as Nick Westbrook Cacine

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Speaker 5: US two Sunday Night Football, it is the Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: we have seen this Chargers team play pretty well up front.

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Speaker 1: neighbored more than he He's fantastic, but he seems to

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Speaker 4: I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: And look, you know the four points for Kansas City

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Speaker 4: He runs the ball, they get Pa check go back.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a situation now we're offensively for

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Speaker 3: They're gonna say we're gonna protect our left tackle, We're

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Speaker 4: Last week it was not. It was decide.

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Speaker 1: I think the Chargers defense has shown more than the

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Speaker 4: And familiar and a familiar opponent. You know.

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Speaker 1: That was a game the Chargers actually didn't have either

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Speaker 4: The San Francisco forty nine Ers, who were four point favorites.

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Speaker 5: Gotta feel like that would have been a larger margin

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Speaker 1: And doesn't count when you already fired an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are rolling guys out here, even on defense,

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Speaker 3: where I think this is the chance for Caleb and

440
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 3: some of those guys on the offense can eat the Niners.

441
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Speaker 3: Defense just got absolutely truck steamrolled and ran over.

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Speaker 4: And I don't see why.

443
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Speaker 3: The Bears and Thomas Brown, who's very familiar with the Niners,

444
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 3: remember he coached with the Rams for a long time.

445
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Speaker 3: This to me has got upset alert all over it.

446
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Speaker 3: I think the Bears offense is gonna come out of this.

447
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Speaker 3: I just I just almost feel bad for the Niners,

448
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Speaker 3: right wow. I just don't think they've got the personnel,

449
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Speaker 3: and I think their spirit is actually a little crushed.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and it might be because I'm

451
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Speaker 1: influenced by you, Steve. I look at you, you know,

452
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Speaker 1: as a as a mentor. Here someone to model a

453
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Speaker 1: career after. Steve Weiss, And you said something that stuck

454
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Speaker 1: with me on the Quarterback Island episode of Just like,

455
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're the forty nine ers are

456
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Speaker 1: gonna compete the rest of the year, like if they're

457
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Speaker 1: gonna be close in games? So, I mean, what is

458
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Speaker 1: informing you? Just being totally I agree, it's it's heading

459
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Speaker 1: down a hill fast. And I wouldn't be surprised if

460
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: the Bears won this game because the vibes. But you

461
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: seem very strong that it's well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's a proud club.

463
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Speaker 3: They're gonna compete, Kyle's gonna coach those guys can go

464
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Speaker 3: out there and compete.

465
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Speaker 4: They just have nothing.

466
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Speaker 3: And when you just have this much negativity constantly, all right,

467
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: and let's as horrible do this. Let's not forget what

468
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: happened to like Serveri's Ward and Trent Williams, their personal situations.

469
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Speaker 3: Those things will ran also will devastate the character of

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Speaker 3: a team. I mean, it's just like, can it get

471
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Speaker 3: any worse? And yeah, it keeps getting worse. For these guys.

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Speaker 4: It's tough.

473
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Speaker 3: They've played and performed and functioned at such a high

474
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Speaker 3: level that all these blows might be like, you know what,

475
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Speaker 3: we just have to exhale right now, and.

476
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Speaker 5: The circumstances going the wrong way. Kyle Yucheck had that

477
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 5: fumble in the snow. I remember the way the game started.

478
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Speaker 5: I was looking at the forty nine ers energy because

479
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 5: it happenings as we were taping our Sunday pod. And

480
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 5: then they the offense comes out and there's no seventy one,

481
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Speaker 5: and I remember just how much Trent means to this

482
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Speaker 5: football team. The on all stats for Brock Purty with

483
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Speaker 5: him without Trent Williams, there's a stark difference there. And

484
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Speaker 5: then the defense hasn't been as good as it's been

485
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Speaker 5: all season long, so they need the points. They're only

486
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Speaker 5: scoring twenty two points a game right now for the season, Greg,

487
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Speaker 5: And so it's like we look at there, we see

488
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Speaker 5: brock Purty, we see the Niners uniforms, but this is

489
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Speaker 5: not the Niners team that we know.

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Speaker 1: Losing Trent is even bigger, I think this year than

491
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Speaker 1: other years, because I think the rest of the offensive

492
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Speaker 1: line hasn't been great. So then if you're adding suddenly

493
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: a big trouble spot at the most important position where

494
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: it was your one big strength. They have a young

495
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: guard Poony, their rookie who they like, but the other

496
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: spots it's been a little leaky that then suddenly you're right,

497
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: maybe the whole deck of cards just collapse. They actually

498
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Speaker 1: have an eight percent chance to make the playoffs according

499
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Speaker 1: to Next Gen Stats, which was a higher percentage than

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Speaker 1: I expected, because that's going off the numbers, based off

501
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Speaker 1: the whole season. It's going off the division, and it's

502
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: going off the reality is if they win this game,

503
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Speaker 1: and let's say the Cardinals, who are favored, win that game,

504
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: they're one game back in the NFC West, as doom

505
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Speaker 1: and gloom as it is, and I agree it's doom

506
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Speaker 1: and gloom. I'm not pushing backward. I think I'm going

507
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Speaker 1: to pick the Bears. They actually are alive, Like the

508
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: reality is there. They do have a chance, But there

509
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Speaker 1: is something about this team. When I saw that face

510
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: of rage that Kyle Shanahan had a couple weeks ago.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, if you watch the

512
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Speaker 1: Fox broadcast, you were probably out of game Steve, but

513
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Speaker 1: he was so mad when they had twelve men on

514
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: the field that I've never seen another human more angry

515
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Speaker 1: than Kyle Shannon was in that movie.

516
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Speaker 2: And I just felt like, oh man, it's like too much.

517
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Speaker 1: There's too much bad vibes there, and now that it's

518
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Speaker 1: amazing the Bears are the team with the better vibes.

519
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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe vibes on the way up.

520
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 5: Since we eleven, DJ Moore has the second most receiving

521
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 5: yards over expected. They've been throwing the ball close to

522
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage around getting the ball out of

523
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Speaker 5: Caleb's hands quick, keeping them from taking some of those secks,

524
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Speaker 5: which I think is going to be important in this game.

525
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Speaker 5: Nick Bosa's you know, it's a down year for both boss,

526
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 5: but he's generated most of the pressures this season. So

527
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Speaker 5: get the ball out of Caleb's hands and just enjoy

528
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 5: the vibes of of you know, maybe a negative vibes.

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Speaker 1: Coach no longer be speaking of turning points. They haven't

530
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Speaker 1: done too well since you wore that hat. I'm just saying,

531
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Speaker 1: you know, Bosa, Yeah, maybe that's what turned the season around.

532
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Speaker 1: I do think the fire coach principle is a real thing.

533
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Speaker 1: I do think yeah, because it gets fired for a reason.

534
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Speaker 2: Can I get him bumped? And they gotta feel.

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Speaker 4: Good read about all that locker.

536
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Speaker 2: Room stuff like and if they do lose before we

537
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Speaker 2: take it right.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say this because I haven't seen

539
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: this pop up on Twitter and among forty nine ers fans,

540
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: You guys are insane. The ones that want Shanahan. God like,

541
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Speaker 1: it's a real thing out there that they're like, is

542
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: it time for Kyle Shannon?

543
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

544
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: That's dumb. Those those folks are Seahawks fans in a mask.

545
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: Are we are you guys? It's serious?

546
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Speaker 3: So Greg, it's the same folks you want Mike Tomlin

547
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Speaker 3: get fired. It's we're in this. We're in this stare

548
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: and I need a different crew. But I hate with

549
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: the media. Are you are you gonna play? Are you

550
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: gonna are you gonna bench Aaron Rodgers this week and

551
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: play who like we want to We're constantly like we

552
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: want to replace guys, we want to fire guys, Like

553
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Speaker 3: what's the other?

554
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Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, look look Kyle Shannon hit the streets.

555
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Speaker 1: Trade it you get You could trade them whipping your ass,

556
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: you could, you could trade them.

557
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 2: Someone would absolutely Chicago, Chicago would like that. Love.

558
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Speaker 4: Sorry, that's one club that I ain't doing that expense.

559
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Speaker 2: That is it for us, the start the show. We're

560
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: just getting going.

561
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Speaker 1: Looking forward to Week fourteen, and yes, a Bills Rams

562
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Speaker 1: rematch of what was the opener just a few years ago.

563
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Speaker 2: A lot has changed them back on NFL Daily.

564
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Speaker 1: You spent that break just wondering what opener am I

565
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: talking about? I remember it well because I was there

566
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. The Bills came in and they put

567
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Speaker 1: it on the Rams in such a way that you wondered, what.

568
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Speaker 2: Is this Rams season going to be like? And it

569
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: was that it wasn't good. It wasn't good. So a

570
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: little chance for revenge for Sean McVay.

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Speaker 5: It is, and that revenge is why it's the Game

572
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Speaker 5: of the Week presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. The Buffalo Bills

573
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 5: four and a half point favorites. Across the street at

574
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Speaker 5: Sofi Stadium. The over number under is forty nine and

575
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Speaker 5: a half. You get to hear Kevin Burkhard, Tom Brady

576
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: and Andrews and Tom Rinaldi on the call, Greg the

577
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 5: Bills a buzz saw right now.

578
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 4: You said the Rams the best bad team in the league.

579
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Speaker 4: Can the best bad team beat a very good Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel bad about keep saying that. I'm

581
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Speaker 1: gonna stop saying, Okay, it's my daughter's team. When I

582
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: watch them, they're entertaining to watch. Still a lot of

583
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: good players on that team. They're six and sixteen, that's

584
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Speaker 1: what they are, and six and six teams probably can't

585
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: be a Bills team right now the way they are playing,

586
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: unless there's a little bit of a letdown factor. They

587
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: just won the division last week in the snowy conditions.

588
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: That was that was a high. You're trying, you're flying

589
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: across the country. It's a NFC game against a team

590
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: that really needs it. It's it's not crazy. It's not

591
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: a crazy scenario. Speak to it.

592
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Speaker 5: What Okay, I'll jump in the spoiler I'm taking the

593
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 5: Rams well this one, Greg, and I'll lay out the

594
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Speaker 5: narrative that I have constructed to fulfill this outcome, because

595
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's important where this Bill's defense,

596
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 5: I feel can be vulnerable to true ones, and they

597
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 5: haven't really had a chance to play a true one,

598
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 5: albeit Tyreek Hill having a down season in Miami a

599
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: few weeks ago, the Dolphins score points and there Untila

600
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: spread the ball around pretty well. You go back, you

601
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 5: have to go all the back way back to that

602
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 5: Nico Collins game where Nico actually hurt his hamstring running

603
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 5: into the end zone away from this Bill's secondary and

604
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: now with Pooka fully healthy Greg and the opportunity with

605
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: with DeMarcus Robinson playing while he got back in the

606
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 5: end zone of course, Cooper Cup there, Kyroen and Blake

607
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: Korum going off. I like this Rams puncher's chance, and

608
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 5: I feel like with with with that, that punch that

609
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: they can throw being better than punches the Bills have

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00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: received here in the past few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Very good.

612
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna back into this a little bit

613
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Speaker 3: because the Bills do team step for a lockdown seventh

614
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 3: straight win six of them scoring thirty plus points. I

615
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: just don't think it happens here. And here's why the

616
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: Rams starts slow offensively. If all of a sudden they're

617
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: down to nothing or fourteen enough, and the Kyroen Williams factor,

618
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: the run game factor changes, and the way that those

619
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: guys are getting after the quarterback with Russo and Epanessa

620
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: and some of these guys getting after the quarterback. Your

621
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: favorite player, Matt Milano is back. He's back in the lineup.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if the Rams can do it now.

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Speaker 3: If it's toe to toe for a while, okay, then

624
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: the Rams have that puncher's chance. But if they fall

625
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: behind quickly and they get one dimensional quickly, which we

626
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Speaker 3: know that Sean McVay does not mind doing throwing the

627
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: ball over the place, then I think they're in trouble.

628
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Speaker 1: That all makes sense to me. I think the team

629
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Speaker 1: that can run the ball better could win this game.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have really turned into a great running team

631
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Speaker 1: with the ace up their sleeve of Josh Allen being

632
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: able to run in the red zone, which the Rams

633
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: obviously don't have. The Rams really leaned on the run

634
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: last week against the Saints. They were domin running the ball.

635
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Their success rate was over sixty plus percent, and Jordan

636
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Rodrigue talked about how you know, a halftime in that game,

637
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: the players were like, let's run the damn ball, and

638
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: they got it done. So if there is a weakness

639
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: of the their Bills defense, maybe that's it that they

640
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: could you know, establish it. And it's like a seven

641
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: possession game. We're at that point for the Rams where

642
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: they're clearly the inferior team. Less possessions is a good

643
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: thing when you're going up against a great team like

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Speaker 1: the Bills. And it shook me a little that Jordan

645
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: was so quick to kick Stafford off underback on. Honestly,

646
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm a little a little shook. But watching Stafford the

647
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: last few weeks, I think he's played okay. I think

648
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: he's actually playing a little better. And he is like

649
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: these these old tennis grats I've been watching retire lately.

650
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Speaker 2: That's who he reminds me of a little.

651
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Is like they can't quite get through, you know, an

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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: entire tournament sometimes or an entire season, but they'll pop

653
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Speaker 1: up and they'll play like their very best for one game,

654
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, for one match. And I

655
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: do think Stafford to what you're saying, Patrick is very

656
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: capable of that for one night that he is just

657
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: the best Stafford.

658
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: You've convinced me into it.

659
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: I'm not backing you're calling him Washington Wizard MJ.

660
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm not saying.

661
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: Saying he's Olympic Snovak Djokovic who's wearing the gold medal

662
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: and beats the young best player.

663
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: In the world in that moment, for one day, you

664
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Speaker 2: can be better. That's it.

665
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: Made an All Star team one year with a Wich.

666
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: Okay, he wasn't like, yeah, he was better than people.

667
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Remember though, I give you, I give you credit.

668
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 5: For motivation, motivation for Matthew Stafford based on Greg's comments

669
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Speaker 5: about him being absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.

671
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like when Serena was still making those Grand

672
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: Slam finals and she beat the number one player in

673
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: the world or whatever. But you know, maybe you can't

674
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: keep it going weak at the week which is the season.

675
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: You know you can do it for one game that

676
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: that's the thing that happened. I do want to mention

677
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: in this game. Micah Hyde is a member of the

678
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills organization. Again, that's pretty cool.

679
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's a really he's on the practice squad.

680
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: We don't know if he'll play in the game. I

681
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: think this is in part like Micah has had to

682
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: fight through some physical things, which is why he has

683
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: not been on a field yet this season, which is

684
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: why he really didn't draw the free agent interest that

685
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: we thought. But it goes to show you how much

686
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: he means to this franchise that they did connect even

687
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: if he's a practice squad guy and like almost into

688
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Tony Jefferson type of role with the Chargers where he's

689
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: kind of a coach on the field to help these guys.

690
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: You figure he'll kind of warm up.

691
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: It's tough to ask him to come off the streets

692
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: and just play right away.

693
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, and that's what I'm saying.

694
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: You look at the point of the season, he'll be

695
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: there in case if needed. He's a great Remember he

696
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: was a great punt returner at one point as well too.

697
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: He can really run.

698
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they got Brandon Codrington, who's a heck of

699
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: a return guy. But I just think it's fantastic. It's

700
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 3: a class move on both sides to connect like this.

701
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's got all the medical you know, clearing

702
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: that he needed to have and he's good to go.

703
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to get a Marii Cooper a little

704
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: more involved. His staff count did go up a lot

705
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: last week actually in terms of like when they had

706
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: their start, Like, so they need to start. Yeah, this

707
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: is a good matchup for them to use him as

708
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: a as a true number one on their side. And

709
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: then I did notice this quote that one of the

710
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Bills offensive linemen had after last week's game where he

711
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: said we beat the breaks off the forty nine ers

712
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: and that that's the type of team, that's the type

713
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: of confidence. It was Alec Anderson, who they bring in

714
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: as kind of an extra lineman. They just kept running

715
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: the same play over and over and they are becoming

716
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: one of those offensive lines. To me, they have that

717
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: sort of confidence as a group where that's their identity

718
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: and that that could that could mean a long day.

719
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: For these these Rams linebackers.

720
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great matchup.

721
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: It's uh so are you taking them to win straight

722
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: up on game debut? I'm putting it, but okay, yea

723
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: real quick say. He puts his name behind that, we

724
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: have records and everything.

725
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it's genuine as they come, not

726
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: not afraid to lose, as evident about my record or

727
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: game real quick.

728
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: Since you mentioned the Rams linebackers, Yeah, one day, they're

729
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: really going to have to invest in that part of

730
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: their defense. It's something that they have shown under Sean

731
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: McVay that when they're bringing Bobby Wagner, otherwise churn him

732
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: and get him out. Look what Arne Shones is doing

733
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: up and chan, how he's changed that defense. That's someone

734
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: who they kicked to the curb in preseason strong point. Yeah,

735
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: they can find them for the Seattle Seahawks.

736
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Speaker 1: The crown is yours.

741
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 7: To our next game, the New Orleans Saints four and

742
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 7: a half point favorites at the New York Giants in

743
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 7: MetLife over under his forty one Kevin Coogler, Daryl Johnson,

744
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 7: Laura Oakman on the call, Steve, we have seen the

745
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 7: rizzy edition of the Saints.

746
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: Yea inspired that inspiration can't lead to a loss to this,

747
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: this hapless Giants franchise can Yeah, no, the Giants are

748
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: gonna win this game.

749
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: Oh what, here's the overarching theme, just because it's the

750
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: Giants and the way things are going.

751
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: This is where they set the tone to lose out

752
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 4: of the number one pick.

753
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: Right now, they're sitting in that slot right them and

754
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: the Raiders both have two wins. The Giants sitting in

755
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: that slot. And this is where the Dome Saints go

756
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: up there. The weather's not supposed to be too bad,

757
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: but without Taysom Hill, right, without some of the things

758
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: to make this offense function like it normally does. This

759
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: is where the Giants defense buoize Drew Locke and he

760
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: comes in if they pull the upset, I'm giving you drama.

761
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: I wish your song was playing the viola right here.

762
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the drama. This is one that the

763
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: New York Giants win and end up not getting the

764
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: first overall pick in the draft.

765
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: That ti let.

766
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna click off like three wins to end the

767
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: season and pick like seventh.

768
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: That would be a lot like last year.

769
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: They had a three game winning streak around this time

770
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: of the season.

771
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: DeVito was involved.

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00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I believe with that one of them was over the

773
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Patriots and they ended up not getting Drake Maybase because

774
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: of it.

775
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Or Jayden Daniels.

776
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: Well, they could have had him.

777
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: They could have had him, could have had Saquan, could

778
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: have but they just you know, we saw it was

779
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: on full display and hard knocks.

780
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: What that they Yeah, they could, I don't know. They

781
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: would have to give up a lot to trade up.

782
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: Tends to happen.

783
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. They didn't want they didn't want it

784
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: bad enough. Well, I guess we're not choosing them as

785
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: a survivor pick. Patrick had thrown that out there, the

786
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: possibility they're losing that. I wouldn't like them as a

787
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: survivor pick anyways, just because the Saints I expect them

788
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: to win. No dexter lawrence for the Giants. I mean,

789
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: they just keep losing their very best players. There's a

790
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: little buzz, or at least speculation that it depending on

791
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: how Derek Carr closes out this season that could impact

792
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: what his status is for twenty twenty five.

793
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: If they win some games.

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00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: The Saints are not above being like, Okay, let's let's

795
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: all run it back. So you gotta win games like this.

796
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: If you're Derek Carr, I do want to just mention

797
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: and then we can move on. Alvin Kamara shout out

798
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: to him big time. IP at thousand rushing yards for

799
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: the first time in his career, which is crazy that

800
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: that's never happened before. But he's fifth right now in

801
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: the in the NFL and yards from scrimmage. So you

802
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: look who's ahead of him. You look who's ahead of him,

803
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: It's Saquon Henry, Jamir Gibbs. It might be Josh Jacobs's

804
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: fourth and he's getting it done week after week. That

805
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: that dude is a star. I'll always believe if he

806
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: doesn't wind up making the Hall of Fame, that they're

807
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: coaching malfeasance over the last three or four years is

808
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: what cost him because he was a good player that

809
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: whole time. So he's having a great year. I hope

810
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: they keep keep leaning.

811
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: On Taysom Hill getting too many touches.

812
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, take it take it away from Kamara, man,

813
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: I mean those yards he would have decidedly, it's not

814
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 5: conjectur on my part, he would have the record for

815
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 5: most touchdowns scored in a single game if.

816
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: Not for a rend Jason Hill carry one yard line. Yeah,

817
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

818
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: Greg, shout out to one of the best of this

819
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 5: generation in number forty one. The over under for this

820
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: game also forty one, So Synergy a big game coming

821
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 5: up for AK.

822
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: Let's get speaking.

823
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 5: Of the NFC South, the Atlanta Falcons, who somehow lost

824
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 5: to the Chargers last week on the road. It is

825
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 5: a Kirk Cousins revenge game against the Minnesota Vikings, who

826
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: are favored by five enough half coming off of their

827
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 5: fourth and six come back against the Arizona Cardinals. Greg,

828
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: how do you see it going over under forty five

829
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: and a half? G Reg on the call with Joe

830
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 5: Davis and Pam.

831
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Oliver, I don't think it's gonna go.

832
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: Well, that number is highly disrespectful to the Falcons and evidence.

833
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Okay that no, no, no, I take the Viking. I

834
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: just mean people have been watching the Falcons. Imagine what

835
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: that line would have been four weeks ago. It would

836
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: have been totally different. But this team is in a

837
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: free fall. I somehow, while writing out notes for this game,

838
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: forgot that it's the Kirk Cousins revenge game.

839
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just all about ball and that.

840
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: Actually That's a great example that.

841
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Forget the narratives.

842
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: It's actually sad to think about because I had the thought,

843
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: could this be Kirk Cousins's last NFL start? WHOA, And

844
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: it would be crazy if it's in Minnesota, If Brian Flores,

845
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 1: who to me is not a defensive coordinator, I would

846
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: want to see if I'm Kirk Cousins right now ends

847
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: up just putting it to him because he's got ten

848
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: turnovers no touchdowns the last three games.

849
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you.

850
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: Know you're talking about overall turnovers and fumbles. You know,

851
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: people are interceptions, he's putting the ball on the ground. Look, Patrick,

852
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: you've talked about it all season.

853
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: We've seen it. He can't move right.

854
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: The fact that he just cannot move Their offense has

855
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: been all over I don't think he's gonna go out

856
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: there and play as poorly as he did against the Chargers.

857
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't he seem like the type of guy that maybe

858
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: this situation it would be a lot for anyone.

859
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

860
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be challenging for him emotionally.

861
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: In all that, it's going to be emostly challenging. It's tough,

862
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: and the thing is now he's losing them games. Right,

863
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 3: there's always a thing like you can overcome this. He's

864
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: costing them ballgames. And this is whereas Adam and is

865
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Raheem Morris has been that Michael Penick is gonna be

866
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: their quarterback for the future.

867
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: Does that future start next week?

868
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: If they lose this ballgame and Cousins comes out and

869
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: loses another game the way he has the past couple game.

870
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: Because their offense hasn't function They're like, we're gonna put

871
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: eight guys in the box. We're gonna make Kirk Cousins

872
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: beat us. I mean, it's not creative what teams are

873
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: doing against Atlanta right now. In Atlanta has got a

874
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: lot of offensive talent, and so for them not to

875
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: be putting points on the board and Kirk co Chains,

876
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: who I think is gonna play better this game. But

877
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: they've just got to get some points on the board

878
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: early to start feeling good.

879
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: Otherwise this could get sideways. Yeah, it would be very

880
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: difficult for him to play worse than he did. I

881
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: guess the charge and I say that to demean Kirk

882
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: Cousins because everybody has a stinker, right. I think it's

883
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: a credit to Kirk Cousins to come back from that

884
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: injury and play the way that he did in spots

885
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: right this season. But this is a situation where no

886
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 5: matter how mentally strong he is, and it's gonna be

887
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: an emotional game because I they had a lot of

888
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: they had great moments between the franchise and Kirk Cousins

889
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: of Minnesota. It's not that it's gonna be physically. Can

890
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 5: he hang in there do the things that he needs

891
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 5: to do. I guess the veteran defense they can do

892
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 5: so many different things, so many different looks. It's not

893
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 5: like you're going to confuse him, but you just get

894
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: in literal situations on the football field where you need your.

895
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: Body to do something and it's not doing well.

896
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: I think they can confuse him. Why not? I think

897
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers did. I think the Chargers with some of

898
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: the coverages that they were playing, or having him hold

899
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: the ball a little extra. He's seen it all, certainly,

900
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: but everyone gets confused sometimes. Tom Brady gets confused for

901
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: games at a time during his prime. I watched it,

902
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: and this Minnesota team is so diverse. Yeah, what they

903
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: can do. Last week they played they played half their

904
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: snaps without a down lineman. Now they had like down

905
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: linemen like guys who play defensive tackle were on the field,

906
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: but literally like no one's hand was on the ground

907
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: half the snaps.

908
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: That's just that's just craziness.

909
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: Well, and the way they use a guy like Josh

910
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Mna tell Us and you know, Harrison Smith, moving him

911
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: all over the field and bringing him it'll be interesting.

912
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: By the way, I like, I'm going to bring back

913
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: another Michael Jordan reference. You guys are saying Kirk was

914
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: year two Michael Jordan Washington Wizards when he could only

915
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 3: play in spots because he couldn't jump off the floor.

916
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, what's what's coot right now? Too?

917
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: He's killing them Like he's as big a problem as

918
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: as Tucker is for the Ravens. Like this could be

919
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: a close game. The one right spot here is the

920
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Falcons came out of there by and Rahee Morris said

921
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: they were going to be a different team defensively, and

922
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: they were. So that is something you could take from

923
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: that game, like if they can be an average to

924
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: above average defense the rest of the way. And we've

925
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: seen Raheem Morris go on streaks sometimes and they got

926
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Ebakeetty and they got some pass rush out of North.

927
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Who knows.

928
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: If that's a little real, then maybe Kirk writes a

929
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: totally different story, because how sweet would it be for

930
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: him to get off this schneid and have one of

931
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: those crazy Kirk Cousins games.

932
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 2: There's no way.

933
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm taking Now, I'm going to Atlanta plus

934
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: five and a half.

935
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: At least to cover.

936
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: At least to cover because every Kirk Cousins game is

937
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: the same. It comes, there's gonna be insanity, and it's

938
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: gonna be up and down, and it's gonna end up

939
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: with Kirk having the ball with a chance to win.

940
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: That's how it goes. So that's probably within five and

941
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: a half. I don't know how it ends. I'm not

942
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: one of the scriptwriters here.

943
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: And by the way, speaking of Raheem morris Is defense

944
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: being better, Kaiden Nellis is the best defensive player in

945
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: the NFL.

946
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: It does not get talked to him.

947
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 3: Oh wow, He's a hell of a player inside linebacker

948
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: who they bring on a lot of pressures. Brother starts

949
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: for the Broncos. Fathers Luther Ellis one of twelve kids.

950
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: Kate Nellis held a play.

951
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: I never knew they were brothers, which, of course how

952
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: many too.

953
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: Ellis's seven of them adopted great story, but kay Nellis

954
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: is a hell of a player.

955
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: That's a whole defense with a sub answer.

956
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 5: And just one of those things where we got to

957
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 5: figure out was that the Chargers line and the injuries

958
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: for the Chargers or the Falcons getting better going and

959
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: now going up against.

960
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, who's Steve was.

961
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: Early but then late, we get to see the fully

962
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: realized Sam Donald on a game winning drive, including a

963
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: fourth and sixth where he got a dot to Justin

964
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: Jefferson for the first though.

965
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: Remember of the quarterback island Sam Donald, who as has

966
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: it brought him in my argument.

967
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: He was closed.

968
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: We didn't get him on.

969
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: This is how good Sam Donald has been playing lately.

970
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I actually felt guilty post show that he was not

971
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: on it, and Gino was that's how well he's playing,

972
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely feel bad because he's played that well.

973
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: Because he's not only winning games, he's they're asking him

974
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: to win games, and he's throwing the ball like thirty

975
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: six thirty seven times a game, a lot of it late,

976
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: and he's making those throws that he wasn't making when

977
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: he was not with Minnesota.

978
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I just want to make one last point on this one,

979
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: which is they waved goodbye to Kirk Cousins because they

980
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: had a price they would not go over. Now, Kevin

981
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: O'Connell wanted him back, and I think they would have

982
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: had him back if he had accepted a contract they

983
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: probably knew he wasn't going to take, but that would

984
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: have been fair if he wanted to stay there. If

985
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: you think about the way they've built their team without

986
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, what a difference it makes. And it's one

987
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: of the big reasons they're ten and two. Not only

988
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: do you have JJ McCarthy in the future, who unfortunately

989
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: got hurt and Darnold has worked out as a much

990
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: cheaper option, but guys like Andrew Van Ginkel and Grenard

991
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: that you were able to pick up in free agency

992
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: and Gilmore and spread it around, and it's part of

993
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: the reason that defense is so good.

994
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: Let's get to a couple of teams now, who's defenses

995
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 5: and spots the season have been good. It's the Monday

996
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 5: night football matchup between the Cincinnati Bengals and the Dallas Cowboys.

997
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 5: Cincinnati favorite by five and a half favorite. Again, the

998
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: losses keep piling up forty nine and a half.

999
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: The over under.

1000
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 5: Of course, Joe, Troy and Lisa on the call, Steve,

1001
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: as we have seen things go horribly wrong. So a

1002
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 5: midlife crisis car purchase for Joe Burrow. He goes out

1003
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: and buzz the batmobile.

1004
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: Is it gonna need it? Against Micah and the company?

1005
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 3: It's insy because you know, I wash at the game

1006
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: last week when Pittsburgh just scored Will and Greg we

1007
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: talked about it, yesha, with the same play basically with

1008
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: you know, the running back with Nashia Harris going out

1009
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: on the release right up the middle. They do that

1010
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: play ten times, but against teams that losing record. Cincinnati

1011
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: is really good. They're really good. And you know, again,

1012
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: their defense is not they don't want they didn't want

1013
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: to tackle anybody.

1014
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: They're covered.

1015
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's okay, they're just I don't know what has

1016
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: happened to that defense. There has been some talent trained,

1017
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: but their offense is functioning at such an insanely high level.

1018
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: I like the five and a half for Cincinnati on

1019
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 3: the road here. I do think even though they lost

1020
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: that game the way they did to Pittsburgh. Those dudes

1021
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: aren't quitting right there. They are playing their heads off offensively.

1022
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: So I think right now this is a showcase game.

1023
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: It's against the Cowboys, and they're gonna go out there

1024
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: and keep ringing up the scoreboard because at number nine, man.

1025
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: That is a right. Joe Burrow is as real as

1026
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 4: it gets.

1027
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: Right, and that's why I would expect them to win

1028
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: this game handily. That these two teams is kind of

1029
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: the In the Hunt, like really bull because I noticed

1030
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were on those In the Hunt graphics still

1031
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving.

1032
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: And I've seen them sneaking on the Bengels.

1033
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: That's some respect for Joe Burrow, really, just saying like,

1034
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: we respect you so much, we're gonna keep you in

1035
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: that graphic. Speaking of which, if you're watching this game,

1036
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: they got the Alt cast, oh different graphics, and I

1037
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: just learned maybe this was out there before, but I

1038
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: just learned today that it's gonna be our friend of

1039
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: the show, Mina kimes uh and Dan Orlovsky providing some

1040
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: some analysis as part of the Simpsons casts. I don't

1041
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: think they are, but they do have little Mina Kimes

1042
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and Orlovsky's that look like Simpsons characters that.

1043
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 2: They that she put out there. Pretty cool. I'm gonna

1044
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: watch that. I'm gonna I'm can mean this.

1045
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 4: Harry gonna look like Marges.

1046
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to make it. I think they're

1047
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: to make it real to life. Both these teams, by

1048
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: the way, I checked on next Gen stats, they both

1049
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: have a three percent chance to make the playoffs.

1050
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: So I guess in a.

1051
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: World where they just turned it around somehow, they still

1052
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: they still do have a shot. Zach Taylor better win

1053
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: this game, by the way, big game, you know, for him,

1054
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: everyone kind of assumes lou Ana Rumo is gone at

1055
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: the end of the year, which all respect to him,

1056
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: he's yeah.

1057
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 4: I think he's help of a coach.

1058
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Guys that are that good, you don't stay a coordinator forever.

1059
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: In many places, it happens he'll get hired somewhere else.

1060
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: I think it's worth thinking about Zach Taylor and and

1061
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: losses like this.

1062
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: I know the offense is good.

1063
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: If if they had a loss like this on Monday

1064
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: Night football or something, maybe that you would think would

1065
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: maybe get the Browns attention.

1066
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: But but that's the thing that that's the if in

1067
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 5: this I don't think the Cincinnati Bengals lose this game.

1068
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 5: I kind of saw it as the game went on

1069
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 5: against the Giants, where Cooper rush within ten yards, especially

1070
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 5: throwing crossers, that that's the guy you want. But as

1071
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: soon as the play requires something other than that, that's

1072
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 5: where the wheels kind of start to fall off of

1073
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 5: Cooper rush. I think lou An Arumo and defense with

1074
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: Hal has a lot of veterans, I think talent wise,

1075
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: maybe we thought a little bit more of the veterans

1076
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 5: on this Cincinnati Bengals defense coming into the season than

1077
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: the way things. I don't know if some guys are

1078
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 5: playing through some things or not. But but over on

1079
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 5: the other side, the town's still there on the offensive side,

1080
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 5: I hope the front office figures it out.

1081
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 4: They have a unique product that other people don't have.

1082
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 5: H they should use the resources available to them to

1083
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 5: keep those particular products together.

1084
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: Speaking specifically of.

1085
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 5: T Higgins, Jamar Chase, and Joe Burrow, that's a fun thing.

1086
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 5: It would be better for the NFL and better for

1087
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: those of us who watch the NFL if those guys

1088
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 5: play together for their careers.

1089
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: I know, maybe I'm wish casting.

1090
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: There you are, but there's there's a historical precedent with

1091
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: that organization where that's not gonna happen.

1092
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 5: But I mean, they've broken historical precedent with this group

1093
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 5: since it's been together.

1094
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit of wishcasting. Perhaps crazier things

1095
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: have happened. I haven't thought about that that, Like, you

1096
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: never know. Maybe they maybe they will step up to

1097
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: the play. I'd love to see it.

1098
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: But unless unless Michael Parsons, this Dallas defense overshown. Maybe yeah,

1099
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 5: Mao and overshaw scores touchdowns. Good last year's leader in

1100
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 5: interceptions with the record breaking pick sixes gets in the ends.

1101
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 5: But I just it would take too much for Dallas

1102
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: to win this.

1103
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you. But maybe maybe the Cowboys will

1104
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: be inspired. They played better, they have played better, especially

1105
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: on defense, and maybe the rest of the crew will

1106
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: be inspired by Dak Prescott's steadfast support of Mike McCarthy.

1107
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Where he's been around there so long, Dak Prescott and

1108
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: had so many contracts from them. He could even throw

1109
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: in a little zinger saying maybe they should let you know,

1110
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: Mike have a little more responsibility, Let the coach coach

1111
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: the team. He basically was saying without saying it, which

1112
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: I respect out of Dak sticking up for his guy

1113
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: and saying, maybe that's some of the reason why the

1114
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: coaches there struggle. Let's take a quick break. We're gonna

1115
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: wrap up the rest of the Week fourteen preview. After

1116
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: the break, we still haven't picked our survivor. Yeah, we're

1117
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: still rolling. We're surviving, we're thriving. One of my favorite

1118
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: rivalries Jets Dolphins. And you might say, well, why would

1119
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: that be one of your favorite rivalries.

1120
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1121
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: I grew up with the AFC East and those fan bases.

1122
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: They really hate each other. For some reason, the Dolphins

1123
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: and the Jets fan bases hate each other. I think

1124
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: with a passion actually that the Patriots fans will feel

1125
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: left out of.

1126
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: As somebody who covered the Dolphins, I can tell you why,

1127
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: because half of the Jets fan base lives in South

1128
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: Florida and occupies that stadium.

1129
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 5: Right.

1130
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel it. You feel it, even in New

1131
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: York you feel it.

1132
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the animosity goes.

1133
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 5: And that's why Greg loved this game, in this matchup,

1134
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: because it meant either the Jets or the Dolphins would lose.

1135
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 5: Yes for his New England Patriots to get a bump

1136
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 5: in the standings. Yes, the Jets at the Miami Dolphins

1137
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 5: were six point favorites. Kevin Harland aka Trent Green and

1138
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 5: Melanie Collins on the call, Steve, we have seen the

1139
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: Miami Dolphins go on a run and then we saw

1140
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 5: the Packers put a stop to it. They got out physical.

1141
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 5: To use a trite football term, in the cold weather,

1142
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 5: do they bounce back against the Jets?

1143
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: They are in the warm weather. And I'm gonna put

1144
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: it this bluntly as I have it in my notes.

1145
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 3: If the Dolphins trick this game off in South Florida,

1146
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: then their intestinal fortitude needs to be highly questioned. There.

1147
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: We spoke again yesterday on the show. Their offense is

1148
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: playing well. Sauce Gardner is he Is he even gonna

1149
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: play in this game?

1150
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: We don't know yet, But you don't know yet. I

1151
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 2: think there's some hope.

1152
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 4: Okay, there's some hope.

1153
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: But this is a situation where even if he did

1154
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: play the way that this offense in warm weather, not

1155
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: in Green Bay weather, but even you know, to a

1156
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: playball in that game, they should put up enough points.

1157
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's the Jets. They're gonna scrap Aaron

1158
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: Rodgers is not trying to go out like the way

1159
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: things are going. But if Miami's got any type of

1160
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: football pride, I think they go out there and they

1161
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: cover by the six and they play well in this game.

1162
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I like the extra rest too. At this point of

1163
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: the season, they're coming off the Thursday night game. Jeff

1164
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: Ulbricks said it's too early to know if Brees Hall

1165
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: or Sauce Gardner will be active, but neither practice, and

1166
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: he did note that Gardner plays a position where you

1167
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: need a healthy hamstring, especially in this game. In this matchup,

1168
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: you need to help me. So I'm leaning towards he

1169
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: is not playing in this game. That that is a

1170
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: huge loss, and I think it makes the Dolphins a

1171
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: very strong contender to be our survivor pick. Now, we

1172
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: have two games coming up Steelers, Browns, Bucks Raiders, so

1173
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: feel free to to respond there, but we could maybe

1174
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: make our decision after, you know, we go through all

1175
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: three of those games. But I have found our fraud

1176
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: watch on the Jets that Patrick and I have really

1177
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: been propagating on the airwaves since September to be a

1178
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: very pleasurable, mutually beneficial and enjoyable activity. That's everyone I

1179
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: think has benefited from. So that just shows where I'm

1180
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: leaning here.

1181
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm also leaning in a similar direction to where

1182
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: Steve first planted that seed in our heads weeks and

1183
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 5: weeks and weeks ago that this Jets team might not

1184
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 5: be all it's cracked up to be. And yet the Dolphins,

1185
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 5: they started with the fumble that they donated seven points,

1186
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 5: They had an opportunity to score, they had a second

1187
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: in goal the one yard line, had some weird play

1188
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: calling that Mike macus has since really you know, looked

1189
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 5: back in hindsight said that maybe they outthought themselves a

1190
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 5: little bit there. I think they were. The game was

1191
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 5: closer than the scoreboard indicated against a good Packers team

1192
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 5: on the road. And again, as we've covered extensively on

1193
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 5: the show, that the Jets are on a good football.

1194
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: Ta yeah, and too is going to have a response

1195
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: to not make it to QB Island. He has been

1196
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: you know what, that's it fantastic for me survivor pick Okay,

1197
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: let's just let's not even wait.

1198
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: Let's go to its.

1199
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: We don't need to wait.

1200
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: To a snub? Did it? It put me over the top.

1201
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

1202
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're a little thin. They're a little thin,

1203
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: and some parts of their defense and the Jets are

1204
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: just not the team.

1205
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: I think that's going to.

1206
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 5: Expose that quarterbacks completing twenty five percent of their passes

1207
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 5: when they target Jalen Ramsey. It's he's playing very well,

1208
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 5: pretty good right now on the defensive side, and I

1209
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 5: know the defense has gone through a little bit, but

1210
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 5: it's I'm comfortable here.

1211
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm comfortable too.

1212
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them get the running game going,

1213
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: get where he Mostered out of the doghouse.

1214
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: But yes, wow, I'm company.

1215
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: He's in there. Did he do something? I don't think so.

1216
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 2: I just don't think there.

1217
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: He did have some fumbles I think earlier in the year,

1218
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: but they're I mean, they're not using him. I don't

1219
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: know if it's a doghouse, but that last week it

1220
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: raised my eyebrows because that's a game where you need

1221
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: a power runner and you're trying to run eight chan

1222
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: up there and you're getting some negga when they came

1223
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: out here, Mike, did Moster just get old all of

1224
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: a sudden, It happens.

1225
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: They're treating him that way because even when he was

1226
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: here against the Chargers. It was a Chargers, right, They

1227
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 3: came out to LA to play the Charger.

1228
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1229
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: Camera, but before the game, you know their their running

1230
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: back coach x Dudyfield was like, you're gonna see this

1231
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: guy and this guy and he didn't mention, So it's.

1232
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: Not like it's not a personal dime. They not playing

1233
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: him died.

1234
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: They might like the younger guys better. Well.

1235
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: An opportunity for several Dolphins to get healthy against this

1236
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: Jet squad who you know, as we covered, might not

1237
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 5: have a couple of the pieces that were the reason

1238
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 5: you felt good about this franchise in the future.

1239
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 4: In Breeze Hall and Sauce Guard. Another AFC matchup, a

1240
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 4: rematch of a snow game. The Cleveland Browns back against

1241
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1242
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 5: This time it is in Pittsburgh. The Steelers Greg six

1243
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: and a half point favorites. It's the CBS A one.

1244
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 5: We get Jim Tony and Tracy A.

1245
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: Hall.

1246
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 5: An opportunity to see Russell Wilson after he goes off

1247
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 5: against the Cincinnati Bengals to get some revenge Greg against

1248
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: the team that bsmirched his run.

1249
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to imagine the Steelers losing twice against

1250
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: the same opponent in such a short time. First of all,

1251
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: you know Browns fans living right, they're getting, you know,

1252
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: the Thursday night crew, They're getting the Sunday Night crew

1253
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: or Monday night crew. They got Nanton Romo. Here you

1254
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: got Andrew Ciciliano. When you're in the car on the

1255
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: right pickup stuff. I mean, you got the best broadcasting

1256
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: cruise in the business covering the Browns down the stretch.

1257
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: And why not, They're the best show in football with Jamis.

1258
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: It almost got a little loss in the shuffle because

1259
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: of how it ended. Just how many outstanding throws Jameis

1260
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: Winston made in that game, and people like, well, that's

1261
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: the experience. The roller coasters, like the ups and downs,

1262
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: and in the end, I think the idea is that

1263
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: it's ultimately an l Get some stops on defense please too.

1264
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: Like Jim Schwartz hasn't been great, but he is moving

1265
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: an offense that was among the very very worst in

1266
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: the NFL, and since he's taken over, in terms of

1267
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: moving the ball, they're up there. So he deserves a

1268
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: lot of credit for the high level throats he's making

1269
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: in addition to all the off field you know comments

1270
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: at everyone enjoys and everything and wants to poke fun

1271
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: and I do too. I'm just saying, like he's playing football. Well,

1272
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: so let's not have that lost look.

1273
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think he'll be delivered from the

1274
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 3: Lord from throwing pick sixes.

1275
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think. But here's what.

1276
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 3: He threw the ball fifty eight times that game. Yeah right,

1277
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: He's been throwing the ball forty plus times. Jim Schwartz's

1278
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: defense has been actually playing very good. Craig, it's their

1279
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: run game. Their run game has been nothing. You can't

1280
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 3: run the football with Chubb and Ford. That's why Jamis

1281
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: is having to throw it. I do think this is

1282
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 3: a game. I don't like the six and a half

1283
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: number for Pittsburgh. But TJ. Watt's not gonna like the

1284
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: fact that Miles Garrett was barking after the Thursday Oh game,

1285
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: good call? Like you do you remember, I'm like, I'm

1286
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: the edge, I'm that dude. Don't forget that. So TJ's

1287
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: going to be a little worked up. Herbig's gonna be

1288
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: a little worked up. Alex high Smith is going to

1289
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: be back for this game as well. Based on reports

1290
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: about his health status. So I just think Pittsburgh and

1291
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: here's where Pittsburg because I was at the Snowglow game.

1292
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: Where Pittsburgh lost that game to me was the fact

1293
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: that they played justin fields as much as they did.

1294
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: Not that the fact that he played ten percent of

1295
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: their snaps, but when they put him in, Russ was

1296
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: rolling rush was.

1297
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: Like ten to ten on third down.

1298
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: That all of a sudden they started putting justin fields

1299
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: in in those third and short situations, which is when

1300
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: the justin field package tends to work.

1301
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: So they didn't necessarily break trend.

1302
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: Just the feel for that game right now, I thought

1303
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: disrupted some things that won't happen again. You only saw

1304
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: him play two snaps against the Bengals, and he did

1305
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: those well at work perfectly.

1306
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: I think they dial him back. I like Pittsburgh in

1307
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 4: this game. Cleveland's playing better. I do not like the

1308
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 4: six and a half. Yeah, it's Miles Garrett Key here

1309
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: as well.

1310
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 5: Just watching him try to work his shoulder out oh

1311
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 5: late in that game good point against the Denver Broncos

1312
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 5: gave me some concerns because it was the shoulder last

1313
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 5: year when Miles had his fall off and Steelers and

1314
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 5: Browns fans.

1315
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 4: What if, hypothetically, what if both Miles Garrett and TJ.

1316
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: Watt are good football players? Yeah, like we can, we

1317
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: don't in both of them. I think I think they

1318
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: will both try hard.

1319
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 5: I think I can only think of one instance be

1320
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 5: motivated in his career where Miles Garrett didn't try as

1321
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 5: hard as he possibly could.

1322
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 4: Uh much to the credit for Mason Rudolph there that

1323
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 4: he didn't.

1324
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 5: But there's there's just such a high degree of difficulty

1325
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: for this Browns team, and you see it in so

1326
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 5: many different areas, especially in the passing attack where Jameis

1327
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 5: is throwing those picks because these are all contested targets.

1328
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: Yeah right, David Nijoku had an average separation of two

1329
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: point four yards and he got seventeen targets.

1330
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 4: Nobody think he got that much. I mean he was blanketed. No, no,

1331
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 4: no tight end has had that many targets since Travis

1332
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: Kelce two years ago.

1333
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: And he made some tough catches.

1334
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: He did, but it's just it's.

1335
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 5: Asking a lot to do that consistently, and now you

1336
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: got to do it against the Steelers defenses. I'm out

1337
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: and see jamis play. Albeit nobody's really seeing things very

1338
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 5: well in the snow, but it's a tough.

1339
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: Ask, it is.

1340
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: This is the portion of the show where we tell

1341
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: you a little bit about AFC North hard knocks. This

1342
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: division format might have some legs. It was fun seeing

1343
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: a little Tomlin behind me and didn't see it. But great,

1344
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: And this matchup here George Pickens denz Award doesn't get

1345
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: much better than that. Let's give some credit to Art Smith.

1346
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: Let's get a little more Arthur Smith than the hard knocks.

1347
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: He's making it happen. Everyone will have to pick on

1348
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: Art Smith when he was struggling. We got we got

1349
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: c pat back there, Cordell Patterson and Warren and Najee Harris.

1350
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm thinking, like they're really working this backfield.

1351
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: Maybe they do have enough weapons.

1352
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: They don't have wide receivers, but you got Friarmouth, you

1353
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: got the running backs, you got Pickens. Like they got

1354
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: enough on offense to maybe he'll get that one seed.

1355
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: It's not even over.

1356
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: Oh, they they've got enough. Real quick do they show

1357
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: the part? Because I was standing by the Steelers locker

1358
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: room post game Sunday. First thing Tom One says, he

1359
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: knows the NFL film Cruiser, Get this s get this

1360
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: ish off.

1361
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: He he want to get that mic Ah. But then

1362
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 4: he says, is Bootsie Collins here?

1363
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: Because boots he is from Cincinnati, right, A legend, the

1364
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: legendary James Brown, Parliament Funkadelic, Bootsi's rubber band bass player.

1365
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: Where's Bootsy? I want to see Bootsie Collins? I was like,

1366
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 4: what coach is coming off the field hollering for a

1367
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: Pfunk All Star only Mike.

1368
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: D Yeah, that's it. That's the only it did make

1369
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: the show.

1370
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1371
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: I did not watch the entire thing after it, I

1372
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: watched the little part of it.

1373
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: It's a lot going on. It's a busy time of

1374
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 4: the year.

1375
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: I am gonna I'm gonna get through it. My son

1376
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: woke up and watched it this morning. He's crazy. He

1377
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: gets up at like five point thirty in the morning

1378
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: and just starts watching something.

1379
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: Where do you get that from?

1380
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: He said it was good. He said it was good.

1381
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: And that's a report that we can trump. Walker Rosenthal

1382
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 4: knows ball.

1383
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,479
Speaker 5: As we get to the Las Vegas Raiders, the self

1384
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 5: proclaimed worst team in the NFL, giving the best team

1385
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 5: in the NFL, A run for it's money if not

1386
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 5: for a misstime snap in the final opportunity at the

1387
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who are six and a half point favorites.

1388
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 5: The over under is forty six. It's on CBS, Buroudidas,

1389
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 5: Adam Artielletta and Adid Kinkawala on the call, the Aid

1390
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 5: and O'Connell revolution.

1391
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: Is it real, Steve? Do we get that version of

1392
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 4: AOC two weeks in a row.

1393
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: If he throws the ball to Brock Bauers at every

1394
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: every play because Bauer is just that good. No, I mean,

1395
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 3: the Raiders are not going to win this ball game.

1396
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: I like Tampa Bay at six and a half. The

1397
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: Raiders are my favorite to have the first overall pick,

1398
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: not the Giants. And then we're gonna see Tom Brady's

1399
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: influence on this organization in the offseason. That's already where

1400
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: I am when it comes to the Raiders, who's you

1401
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: going to hire as coach? If they have the number

1402
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 3: one pick? Where they're gonna do about the quarterback because

1403
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: that's where they have to go Shadure. That'd be interesting.

1404
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: It's being a little more fun to the Raiders organization.

1405
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: But maybe Tom doesn't like that.

1406
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: You just gave me a flash forward. So what we're

1407
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: going to be talking about a lot and NFL Daily.

1408
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: That'sh we're going.

1409
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: That's where we are there picking. It's gonna be top

1410
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: five and they'll be in They'll be in that mix.

1411
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: They nailed their first pick last year. I think they

1412
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: wanted a quarterback. They didn't have a chance to take one.

1413
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: And Brock Bowers deserves consideration for Offensive Player of the Year,

1414
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: and now.

1415
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 4: You offensive rookie or offensive player rookie.

1416
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, okay, although he's only fourth in receiving yards, like

1417
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: among everyone, not just among rookies. I saw that and

1418
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, are they filtering it out?

1419
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 1: It's Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, and then Terry McLaurin only

1420
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: has Bowers by like eight yards or something. This kid

1421
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: is is special and we've been saying he's the best

1422
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: tight end in the league all season. So I'm feeling

1423
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm feeling validated after the numbers he's putting up the

1424
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. They have some things I've liked

1425
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: about their team. They're certainly competing our guy Jack Jones,

1426
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: who was on the show. I swear he shows up

1427
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: every week and is playing pretty well in coverage.

1428
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah he does. Yeah, it's a good play in.

1429
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: Bucks are like, why are you just Bucks fans are like,

1430
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: why are you talking about the Raiders?

1431
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: Where the relevant?

1432
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 5: Because we're gonna be talking about the Raiders. Okay, yeah

1433
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 5: give them. This is the farewell to the Las Vegas versions.

1434
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 5: But speaking of the Buccaneers, the incredible run that Mike

1435
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 5: Evans is on to start his career with a thousand

1436
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 5: yard seasons, We're sitting at five hundred and twenty one

1437
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 5: yards right now. The remaining schedule is this game against

1438
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 5: the Raiders and then the Chargers, the Cowboys, the Panthers,

1439
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 5: and the Saints. Can Mike Evans get that four hundred

1440
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 5: some odd yards to go over a k again?

1441
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1442
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: Yes, he looked like like Mike Evans always looks. Last

1443
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: week they targeted him a lot. That's not a murderer's

1444
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: row of defenses. It's really just the Chargers that are

1445
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: a plus defense out of that group. So I think

1446
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: he could do it.

1447
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 4: I like the way they run the ball to Bucky Irving. Man,

1448
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: He's that may hurt the cause.

1449
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: Because that may hurt the cause right, but well could

1450
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: set him up for some touchdowns, some fantasy points at

1451
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: the very least.

1452
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving was a subject.

1453
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: If anyone listening subscribes to NFL Plus, we do NFL daily,

1454
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: almost weekly. Every every couple of weeks we do a

1455
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: little NFL Plus segment. We talked about rising second. You know,

1456
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: units and Bucky Irving right now in that running game

1457
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: is crazy. He he is second in the league in

1458
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: terms of avoiding negative runs, which I give a lot

1459
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: of credit to the offensive line. Then again, White is

1460
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the league at avoiding negative runs,

1461
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: so it's not all offensive line.

1462
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: And then in terms of he's he runs.

1463
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 8: Sideways too much, so that's why thank you Guyshod White,

1464
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 8: and he and Bucky Irving's second in the league in

1465
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 8: terms of making people miss misstackles per run, so he

1466
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 8: gets around guys that are in front of him, and

1467
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 8: I would expect a lot of that in this game.

1468
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: They'd be a strong survivor pick too. Just saying yes,

1469
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: but I do like, I do like our choice the Dolphins.

1470
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Bucky Irving had those one hundred and forty

1471
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 5: seven rushing yards against the Carolina Panthers defense who don't

1472
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 5: see things get a whole lot easier because incomes the

1473
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 5: NFL's leading rusher and my MVP candidate, say Kwan Barkley.

1474
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 5: He and Jalen Hurts, an aj Brown and the Philadelphia

1475
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 5: Eagles twelve point favorites at home against Bryce and these

1476
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 5: resurgent Panthers over unders forty six Adam, I mean Mark

1477
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 5: Sanchez and Christina pink on the call.

1478
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,479
Speaker 4: Bryce has been making tight window throws. Greg, Well, what's

1479
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: he do when there's no windows against Vic Fangio's squad.

1480
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: I think he makes the right decisions. I think he

1481
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: stays aggressive and maybe that ends up with an interception

1482
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: and in this game, because I don't think he's going

1483
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: to go down without a fight, and I'm really curious.

1484
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: Makes me want to watch this game.

1485
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: That number is big, but this is a much more

1486
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: compelling game to me because of Bryce Young and everything

1487
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles are doing than a lot of these other games.

1488
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young has evolved from oh that's a

1489
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: nice story. I feel like it was a lot of

1490
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: like Patty on the head, like oh wow, Like it's

1491
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: really cool that he's he's making a career and like

1492
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: this is nice for him too. This is one of

1493
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 1: the bigger stories in the NIA. He was the number

1494
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: one overall pick in the draft last year, and he

1495
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 1: is playing at a level where it's not just hey,

1496
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: like he might be in the midst to start next year.

1497
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, he might be awesome. And now it's

1498
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: it's early, and so I don't want to you don't

1499
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: want to put too much expectations, like you didn't want

1500
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: to bury him too much early. But he is playing

1501
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: at a level like PFF has him since Week nine

1502
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: up there in the top five with with Herber and

1503
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Lamar. That's the level if you haven't

1504
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: been watching him on a on a snap to staff basis.

1505
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: And so this isn't a really ultimate tests.

1506
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: He played Denver, which was a tough one to go against,

1507
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: but this is another tough defense and so I'm really

1508
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: curious how he'll look against him.

1509
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: But but he can have opportunities to make plays because

1510
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 3: they're likely going to get behind pretty early based on

1511
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: what that Eagles offense is going to do to this defense.

1512
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 4: So this is where he's going to be put to

1513
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 4: the test.

1514
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: But you know, when we talk about players, you know

1515
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 3: I mentioned Kate Nellis earlier that doesn't get enough conversations.

1516
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 3: Zach Bond, linebacker for the Eagles, is another one. The

1517
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: vig Fangio, Vig Fangio guysicg Fangio and Zimmer they came

1518
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 3: up to get They find a player every year that

1519
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: nobody's thinking of and gets them going. Now it hasn't

1520
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: so much happened for Dallas this year, but in Zimmer's

1521
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: history he has done that, you know. And so Zach

1522
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: Bond and what he has brought to this linebacking unit

1523
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: that was such a mess last season. And now Na

1524
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: Kobe Dean is playing in a certain way and all

1525
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 3: these other guys, Jordan Davis are playing in such a way.

1526
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 3: This is why I mean, I think we got to

1527
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 3: say the Eagles if the Lions slip up or whatever

1528
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 3: and they get home field. The way this defense has

1529
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 3: grown and played and has these young players playing with

1530
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 3: their head on fire, that this is a very dangerous

1531
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 3: Super Bowl contender.

1532
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter doesn't come off the field, which is crazy,

1533
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: and he is on fire.

1534
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: The last month he was.

1535
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: He started the season playing like a very good football player,

1536
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,560
Speaker 1: but now he's playing at an all pro level. I

1537
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: was racking my mind, and tell me if I'm just

1538
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: forgetting someone. If I had an All Pro vote and

1539
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't and I can't get one that was confirmed

1540
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: to me, Zach Bond is my first team linebacker. Fred

1541
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: Warner would be another one. But I think those are

1542
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: my top two unless I'm missing someone. That's how that's

1543
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: how good he's been. He's Zach Bond's was great. I'm

1544
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: racking my brain. I'm trying to try and who am

1545
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: I missing late season Ernest Jones, No, I mean I've

1546
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: taken bond Man that.

1547
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: That dude is getting it done week after week. It's crazy.

1548
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 3: Tell me this, if Cooper Dejene had played the whole season,

1549
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: would he be up for d R o Y Because

1550
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 3: he has made a significant difference.

1551
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: I think he is now and he is now. Why not.

1552
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 5: Tough to Quinnon has been special? I mean they've both

1553
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 5: been special first first.

1554
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: And fist and we got it confirmed there. There's gonna

1555
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: be a full ballot now where I believe it's five

1556
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: names or three names that all the voters vote for,

1557
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: So Cooper Dejene probably should be on some of those

1558
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: if we're going top five for sure, and and if

1559
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: you want to put him in the top three that

1560
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: that works.

1561
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 5: He's getting he's getting a boost by in my opinion,

1562
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 5: the most routine play I've ever seen. I go to

1563
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 5: I go to next Gen Stats to look this up

1564
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 5: to get specific numbers. When Derek Henry catches that ball,

1565
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 5: he's going seven miles an hour backwards with his back

1566
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 5: to Cooper Degene who's coming at him at eleven miles

1567
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 5: an hour directly towards him.

1568
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 4: That's it.

1569
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's a fun play for people to

1570
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 5: discuss because he scoops up Derek Henry. Yeah, but let's

1571
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 5: the kid has been great.

1572
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: That plays one of his superpowers I think, and it

1573
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: showed up in some splash plays like when he got

1574
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase down in the open field and fourth ten

1575
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: is is recognition and working well with his teammates of

1576
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: where to go on certain plays. And he did make

1577
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: a good play on there, Like that's a play that

1578
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: we've seen work for Baltimore where if you get get

1579
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: it to Henry on the check down and he's got

1580
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: a couple of yards of space that he ends up

1581
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: getting that seven yards and the fact that there is

1582
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: no separation is a credit to Cooper Degene even if

1583
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: the tackle was more more routine. That is the kind

1584
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: of positive plays he's made. He's been so good sticking

1585
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: up for my guy and he's not my guy.

1586
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 4: But no criticized.

1587
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 5: I'm just sayings other places where you could say he's

1588
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:06,440
Speaker 5: been great.

1589
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: Right, he's been so good to We have not heard

1590
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: anyone refer to him as sneaky athletic.

1591
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 5: Praise God, he's been back. I'll say a Jameis prayer

1592
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 5: to get rid of sneak. And I think I think

1593
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 5: we've we've we've almost done it. I think we've all

1594
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 5: but eliminated it from the lexico. That would be great,

1595
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 5: really used it.

1596
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: It's a good lesson for kids that bullying works. Now

1597
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: there's bad bullying. You don't want to, you know, but

1598
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: just like in you gotta be smart enough to know

1599
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: what is worth it. If you if you're just making

1600
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: fun of people over and over for using a bad phrase,

1601
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: that's acceptable bullying. I think it's just like verbal it's

1602
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: kind hearted, but you're you're standing up on the right

1603
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: side of history.

1604
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 4: Got someone got someone else for you too. I was

1605
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 4: just going through.

1606
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: But you talk about the inside linebackers linebackers, does Frankie

1607
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 3: Louvu breaking.

1608
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. They're kind of similar to

1609
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: because you think a lot of Louvu's value has come

1610
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: from blitzing. Now that's not Bonn isn't all the way there,

1611
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: but he's certainly closer to the line of scrimmage. It's

1612
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: crazy how Vix had some of these linebackers over the year.

1613
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: He had at one point was Amad Brooks on the

1614
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: same team as Willison Bowm.

1615
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 4: Guess he was.

1616
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 3: AMoD Brooks was on those early teams. I think when

1617
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: when Vick was there, when they had Justin Smith.

1618
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: And some of those guys, because I believe it was

1619
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: fran duffy uh who was at all p h o

1620
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: y who made the comp of Zach Bond to what

1621
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: a mod Brooks used to do in vic vanjoz Offenson.

1622
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: I was like, that's pretty good comp.

1623
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: He likes to have that extra guy on the line

1624
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and Bonn isn't quite as big, but he's

1625
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: he's a physical player and he's a hell of a player.

1626
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: That's a good one, though. Can you vote for three linebackers?

1627
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: I think he can't. Is it two? Or three.

1628
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1629
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 5: We change the rules before we go. Greg, Yeah, I

1630
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: know it's against the Carolina Panthers. Is there anything Jalen

1631
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 5: Hurts can do in this game to try to make

1632
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 5: a case to get on the island?

1633
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: Man there?

1634
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, hope for Uno.

1635
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: I think they might be too good with what they're

1636
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: doing for him to get on it.

1637
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 3: Here was Greg's argument against because it was a very

1638
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 3: short conversation when I brought it up.

1639
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 4: He's like, he's not the first player you think of

1640
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 4: when you talk about their offense. Your MVP Patrick Saikwan

1641
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 4: Barkley is well, I feel bad about it, but that

1642
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: doesn't mean the quarterbacks, right.

1643
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: I feel bad about that too, because I think if

1644
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: you look at QB's, if you're doing the QB rankings

1645
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: like Shook does every week, after you get past about

1646
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: five or six, there's about another eight seven eight guys

1647
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: playing at a really high, at high level.

1648
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: I think that's Hurts.

1649
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: I think last week's game actually was the perfect example

1650
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: of why Hurts isn't on QB island. If you go

1651
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: through the throws he made in that game, he didn't

1652
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: have to do anything.

1653
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 4: He doesn't make money.

1654
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: It's not in his fault, but they were all just

1655
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: these little like he didn't have to make any high

1656
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: level throws in that game, and they beat one of

1657
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL.

1658
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 3: He's throwing the ball twenty four times a game, and

1659
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 3: like I said, Sam Donald's storing at thirty eight, so

1660
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: they're asking more.

1661
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: Half of them are just smoke routes or the you know,

1662
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: it's a little play action where you just it's first read,

1663
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: throw it right away, and that's I think he's capable

1664
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: of doing more.

1665
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 5: It's a fair point, yes, and that's why he's in

1666
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 5: positions to make the decision to get the easy throws

1667
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 5: because he can do more to defend more.

1668
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: Okay, well, who would you have over him that that's

1669
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:25,440
Speaker 2: a conversation.

1670
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 4: Why, yeah, that's not my right day. I do the

1671
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 4: previous shows.

1672
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1673
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: People are like, people like, oh, I can't believe you

1674
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't mention Sean McDermott for Coach of the Year whatever.

1675
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, whore you taking off that list?

1676
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: If you're going to say that, you got to take

1677
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: someone off. It's it's not hard. It's courageous work that

1678
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: we do here. It is as a panelists, analysts, whatever

1679
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: you want to call it. Brave harts Man, we are.

1680
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday Night. One of the

1681
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: best Thursday Night games of the entire season. I looked

1682
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: at the list. It is the best primetime leave for

1683
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Lions and Packers appreciate you, Steve,

1684
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: appreciate Patrick as always. You can check us out on

1685
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: game debut by the way, too, on under our Network.

1686
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 4: That's fun. There we go.

1687
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: It's look when we're bringing Micah Hide back into the mix,

1688
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: like we might as well bring Tyrod Taylor.

1689
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: And Kyle Williams. You know, football is back.